Maidan 1905 of the year

Maidan 1905 of the yearIn the 1905 year, in the midst of the war with Japan, Alexander Kuprin's story “Headquarters Captain Rybnikov” was published. It was one of the first political detectives, where the main character is a cunning and clever Japanese spy who was operating under the personal Russian army officer.
Curiously, even in our times, the liberal writer of detective stories, Boris Akunin, did not disdain to shamelessly borrow this story of the Russian classics for his book The Silver Chariot. There, he also appears headquarters captain Rybnikov, and also - a Japanese spy. However, leaving aside this problem of obvious plagiarism (Kuprin cannot no longer bring claims to Akunin), let us say that even 110 years ago the problem of spies and foreign interference in the internal affairs of Russia was already very acute.


Around - spies


In 1944, another book came out - a compilation specially prepared for the NKVD “Japanese espionage in Tsarist Russia”, reprinted today. It said: “There was everything here - and thorough preparation even before the war, disguised officers of the General Staff, who did not disdain to maintain brothels, engage in crafts, perform servant and cook duties for the highest Russian authorities; and extremely complete and ingenious reconnaissance (meaning engineering reconnaissance of facilities and communications; then its methods are listed). " Agents were recruited from the local population: "and a medical assistant, and Chinese magicians, and healers, and merchants, and wandering musicians ...". "Foreign trade firms, military and commercial agents of America, England and China, Chinese and Korean merchants, landlords of Chinese brothels, Hunhuzes, some Chinese and Koreans, a landlord in Vladivostok of an American brothel (a favorite place of all kinds weapons the garrison), pupils of her boarding house, numerous Russians of the most diverse range. ”

"Before the start of the war, the Japanese had secret agents not only in all the more or less important points of the planned theater of war, but also in the inner provinces of Russia, thanks to which they were well aware of the real state of affairs."
In St. Petersburg, for example, the Vasiliev and Dementiev tea shop was lively selling right on Nevsky Prospect. However, his servants Shiratori and Tokaki were Japanese spies. They ideally owned Russian, and Shiratori led the informative heading “Japanese Evenings” in the newspaper “Rus”, and Tokaki was an excellent draftsman, and therefore, as if in between times, portrayed warships. When these gentlemen were arrested, these drawings were included in the number of incriminating materials - along with port schemes, drawings of new mines, maps of ships.

Money for revolution

However, the task of Japanese intelligence was not at all in one collection of spy information. Her plans also included the undermining of political stability in the country, the promotion of turmoil and backstage assistance to revolutionaries. So it’s not by chance that 110 years ago, in 1905, in the midst of the war with Japan, a revolution broke out in Russia. In October, an all-Russian political strike took place, there were clashes with troops and Cossacks, among the strikers were killed and wounded. Following Moscow, the strike spread to Petersburg and other major cities and by October 26 covered the main industrial centers of the country. Stopped the work of factories, factories, transport, power plants, post office, telegraph, institutions, shops, educational institutions. The number of strikers reached 2 million. The October All-Russian political strike developed under revolutionary slogans: “Down with the tsarist government!”, “Long live the armed uprising!”.

The prototype of Kuprinsky Rybnikov was not the captain, but Colonel Motoziro Akashi, an employee of the intelligence department of the General Staff of Japan, who was abandoned in St. Petersburg back in 1902, when the Land of the Rising Sun had already begun active preparations for a future war with Russia. True, Akashi did not know Russian, and he had to use translators. The Russian counterintelligence service spotted him in time, the informants of the colonel in Petersburg were arrested.

Immediately after the start of the war, the Japanese embassy, ​​including Akashi, left St. Petersburg and continued to weave their networks from Stockholm, and the colonel moved to Vienna, the then center of international espionage. It was there that Akashi developed a plan to help Russian revolutionaries with money and weapons. His idea was to arrange an armed uprising in Russia, or even better, several national riots on the outskirts of the Russian empire - in Georgia, Poland and the Baltic states. Already in the middle of 1903, the memorandum of the Japanese Imperial General Staff was pointed out at the Russian socialist movement as a possible ally when conducting subversive actions in the Russian rear. The idea was to aggravate the internal political situation in Russia in such a way that tsarism could not simultaneously wage a big war on two fronts.

To this end, the Japanese handed over to the revolutionaries about 1 million yen - a huge sum for those times.

The English journalist Dillon wrote in his book “The Decline of Russia”: “The Japanese distributed money to Russian revolutionaries of known shades, and significant sums were spent on this. I must say that this is an indisputable fact. ”
In addition to the Japanese, the revolutionaries were also subsidized by the Americans, who donated many millions of dollars to subversive work in Russia. The furious Russophobe Jacob Schiff, the owner of the Kuhn, Leeb & Co. banking house in New York, which was a division of the Rothschild financial empire, was especially notable in this regard. Thus, the total amount of funds transferred from abroad to the “revolution” in Russia was not less than 50 million dollars - a colossal amount of money at that time.

One of Akashi’s loyal agents for organizing the “revolution” in Russia was the Finnish “revolutionary” Connie Celliacus. In his papers, Russian counterintelligence found a note listing the number of weapons handed over to the revolutionary parties: “8 thousand rifles to Finnish nationalists, 5 thousand rifles to Georgian nationalists, one thousand to Social Revolutionaries, 8 thousand to other socialist parties and also 500 to other Mauser’s for distribution. between Finnish nationalists and Socialist-Revolutionaries. " In 1917, Social Revolutionary Socialist Party Boris Savinkov wrote: “A member of the Finnish party of active resistance, Connie Celliacus, told the Central Committee of the Social Revolutionary Party that through him a donation of one million francs from American millionaires came to the Russian revolution, and the Americans put a condition on this money to be used by the people and distributed among all the revolutionary parties. "

Connie Celliacus purchased a large batch of weapons in Hamburg for smuggling to Russia. Agathi agents were chartered ship "John Grafton". The team consisted mainly of Finns and Latvians. They managed to unload some of the weapons and ammunition in Finland twice, but in September of 1905, “John Grafton” ran aground and was blown up to hide the ends in water. However, the Russian authorities soon recovered an entire arsenal from the sunken ship - about 10 thousand Vetterly rifles, ammunition and other military equipment. Such rifles were in the hands of the revolutionaries in Krasnaya Presnya. And if you hit all this huge arsenal into the hands of revolutionaries, it’s not known what the outcome of the 1905 riots would be.

Soon, the ship Sirius was purchased for Japanese money to deliver weapons to the Caucasus. Part of the weapon was unloaded in the area of ​​Poti and Gagra, and part of it was intercepted by Russian border guards.

The stake was made, as already noted, to incite national hatred and separatism in a multinational state. The Georgian Socialist-Federalist-Revolutionary Party, the Polish Socialist Party, the Finnish Active Resistance Party and other similar organizations were financed.

“We are ready,” said Akashi to the revolutionaries, “to help you financially for the purchase of weapons, the most important thing is to prevent this movement from cooling down and bringing into Russian society an element of constant agitation and protest against the government.”
Promotion bet

Helped not only the supply of weapons. In one of the first places was political anti-government propaganda. In July, 1904, Akashi, through terrorist woman Vera Zasulich, established contacts with Plekhanov and Lenin. Already in January, 1905, using Japanese money, Lenin released the first issue of the Bolshevik newspaper, “Forward,” calling for the overthrow of the state system in Russia.

Backstage investors of the Russian revolution 1905, for the first time, developed a propaganda plan among prisoners of war. In interrogation, Christian Rakovsky told 1938 that “Jacob Schiff, the head of the bank house“ Kun, Leeb and Co. ”, had such power that the USA, which themselves had colonies in Asia, to the detriment of their national interests, did everything to strengthen Japanese empire. They reorganized the Japanese camps for Russian prisoners of war into camps for the preparation of revolutionary militants (and there were several tens of thousands of prisoners of war). “Who taught them?” Rakovsky asked himself and answered: “The instructors were sent from the USA ...”. The instructors are revolutionary emigrants.

Again as we see история it repeats: even then, the current scheme of “revolutionary Maidans”, aimed at overthrowing regimes objectionable to the West: foreign money to revolutionaries, instructors from the US, was being worked out ...

Agent Parvus


The ominous role in the Russian revolution 1905 of the year was also played by a native of Odessa, who made a fortune in Germany I. Gelfand, who went down in history as Alexander Parvus, who set his life as the aim of overthrowing tsarist power in Russia. His apartment in Munich at the end of 1890 became the center of gravity for both German and Russian revolutionaries. Often visited by Parvus and Lenin.

With the beginning of the Russian-Japanese war, Parvus published a series of articles entitled “War and Revolution” in Iskra, in which, calling the war “bloody dawn of the upcoming great achievements”, predicted the inevitable defeat of Russia and, as a result, the revolution. Parvus enthusiastically received the news of the beginning of the revolution and in October 1905 of the year, with the beginning of the all-Russian strike, arrived in Petersburg on a forged passport. Following him, Trotsky appeared in Russia.

Trotsky and Parvus, supplied with Western money, took a direct part in the creation of the Petersburg Council of Workers' Deputies and entered into its Executive Committee.
Together with Trotsky, Parvus rented a “penny newspaper” (“Russkaya Gazeta”), which was engaged in incitement and quickly gained popularity: the circulation in a month reached 500 thousand copies.

According to G.L. Sobolev, 1905 year became the "star hour" of Parvus; he wrote articles and proclamations, was one of those who defined the strategy and tactics of the Petersburg Council and drafted its resolutions, delivered fiery speeches in the Council and at factories, was popular and influential. However, when the revolution was suppressed, Parvus, like Trotsky, was arrested and exiled. Known for his loud revelations, Burtsev later wrote about him in the newspaper Rech: “Parvus is not an agent provocateur, he is an agent of Wilhelm II”.

Saved determination


The 1905 revolution of the year was suppressed because, unlike the 1917 year, the authorities still managed to show determination. When the revolutionaries seized the trans-Siberian highway, a detachment of General Rennenkampf moved from Harbin, and a troop of General Meller-Zakomelsky moved towards him. These generals acted firmly and mercilessly. Agitators, who do not know how to get into his train, Meller – Zakomelsky ordered to throw out at full speed. Without trial and investigation, a machinist was shot, refusing to lead the Meller-Zakomelsky train and calling for soldiers to disobey. The same fate befell a telegraph operator, who did not miss telegrams that were of state importance.

“Shots carried out without hesitation saved many hundreds, and possibly thousands of lives! - writes Nikolay Starikov in his book “Who Finances the Collapse of Russia”. - And this is not an ode to violence and murder - it is iron logic and simple arithmetic. When the "principled opponents of violence" from the Provisional Government fires up the revolution in 1917, it will go to thousands and even millions of victims! ”

Meller – Zakomelsky then reported to the emperor: “My appearance on the Trans-Baikal road immediately raised the prestige of power and undermined the significance of the strike committee. Moving along the Trans-Baikal road to Chita, I incidentally made arrests of those responsible for resisting the authorities. The main culprits, telegraph operators and members of the strike committee, taken with arms in their hands, after an exact determination of their guilt and their own confession, were shot by me at Art. Cape - 5 man and at st. Mogzon - 7 people. Other telegraph operators, less guilty and minors, were punished with whips. ” “So much for the revolution! It is enough to shoot a 12 man, and it is already gone! ”Exclaims N. Starikov.

Yes, there you have a lesson for Yanukovych and all the others who believe that the heated crowd who has taken up arms must be persuaded and “humanism” must be shown.
That is why the “Maidan 1905 of the Year” in Russia, already prepared with the active support of Japan and the West, failed.

Telegrams mikado


Amazingly, the “educated society” in St. Petersburg at that time with some kind of pathological gloating wanted to defeat their own country in the war with Japan. “A common secret prayer,” wrote German journalist G. Ganz, who lived in St. Petersburg at that time, “was not only liberals but moderate conservatives at the time:“ God help us to be defeated! ”“ The pitiful remnants of victorious legions laid down arms legs of the winner! ", - Our Our Days liberal newspaper wrote maliciously when Port Arthur fell. A prominent liberal A.I. Petrunkevich) frankly admitted: “What will the Russian people lose if its fleet and army are defeated? He will lose confidence that royal power is unbreakable. And what will the Russian people lose if their army comes out victorious from this war? He will lose everything! He will lose the last ray of hope for liberation, as the government, fed by victory, will get stronger and strengthened so that any attempt at protest will be impossible. ”

Things reached the point that the Russian liberals sent telegrams to the Japanese emperor with wishes for a speedy victory. Just like today’s modern home-grown liberals are asking the West to punish Russia for the Crimea.
Yes, more than a hundred years have passed, but this audience has not changed at all! Their attitude to what was happening and is happening in the Donbass, and now in Syria is the same: they are again furiously craving for defeat and the collapse of Russia.
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  1. Mountain shooter 3 November 2015 15: 04 New
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    Hmm. That's how interesting. It turns out that “pale young men with hot eyes” are completely controlled by cynical uncles in serious uniform.
    1. science fiction writer 3 November 2015 15: 20 New
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      Surprisingly, the “educated society” in St. Petersburg in those days with some pathological gloating wished to defeat its own country in the war with Japan.

      A hundred years have passed and nothing has changed in the librarian party,
      “A common secret prayer,” wrote the German journalist G. Gants, who lived in Petersburg at that time, “not only liberals, but also moderate conservatives at that time was:“ God help us to be broken! ” “The miserable remnants of the victorious legions laid down their arms at the feet of the victor!”, The liberal newspaper Our Days wrote gloatingly during the fall of Port Arthur.

      And after that they are also offended that the people now spit on them
      and except as traitors, he doesn’t even call them
      1. AndreySTR 3 November 2015 23: 01 New
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        I do not agree with you. Traitor - he is ideological. And what we have is shit.
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    3. Alexey RA 3 November 2015 15: 40 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Hmm. That's how interesting. It turns out that “pale young men with hot eyes” are completely controlled by cynical uncles in serious uniform.

      Hehehehe ... only sometimes it turns out that youths pale with hot eyes after the seizure of power, they have their own views on the further development of events. Especially when they are united in a party and have experience party squabble for survival fractional struggle.
      1. afdjhbn67 4 November 2015 03: 36 New
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        Quote: Alexey RA
        youths pale with hot eyes

        But did the author of Gaidar, Chubais, and so on mean? also know not zpl zablabov and editors, they got us a counter-revolution ..
        1. atalef 4 November 2015 07: 24 New
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          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Quote: Alexey RA
          youths pale with hot eyes

          But did the author of Gaidar, Chubais, and so on mean? also know not zpl zablabov and editors, they got us a counter-revolution ..

          Chubais laughing
          The traitor of the revolution of 1905, the priest Gapon, was tracked down in Finland by Peter Rutenberg and Yevno Azef, and by the sentence of the Central Committee, the Eser were hanged.
          In 1917, Peter Rutenberg, as the Social Revolutionary fled from the Bolshevik coup, in 1922 reached Palestine and founded the Israeli Electric Company

          Interestingly echoes Chubais (RAO EU) and the 1905 revolution

          The company was founded in Mandate Palestine. On March 29, 1923, Pinhus (Peter Moiseevich) Rutenberg (educated at the St. Petersburg Institute of Technology), with the support of Colonial Minister Winston Churchill, received a concession for electricity production and created the Palestinian Electric Company. Then the first power station appeared, and electricity came first to Tel Aviv, and then to Haifa, Tiberias and other cities.

          In 1961, the company name was changed to "Israel Electric Corporation Limited"
    4. Proxima 3 November 2015 15: 57 New
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      The revolution of 1905 did not happen because the Japanese financed someone there. But Lenin did not carry out the October Revolution because of the money of the Germans. Maybe the Germans threw some money and his brother Alexander, who was executed for attempted murder of the emperor? All this is primitive. "Historian" Starikov delving into all this from behind a tree does not see the forest. The revolution of the fifth year occurred for only one reason - this is the prestige of the state, omitted below the plinth, because of the shameful Russo-Japanese war. This is now Japan is perceived as a developed state, and then the whole world perceived them only as narrow-eyed macaques. Add to this Bloody Sunday, Rasputin, the moronic control of Nicholas II and we get what we got.
      1. BMW
        BMW 3 November 2015 16: 07 New
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        Quote: Proxima
        All this is primitive. "Historian" Starikov delving into all this from behind a tree does not see the forest.

        One reasonable comment. People, what’s that balanda in your head.
        What kind of money can a situation be rocked in the country if almost everyone is happy with life? Carry crap, and the author horseradish. fool
        1. science fiction writer 3 November 2015 16: 28 New
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          What kind of money can rock a situation in a country

          They took money from the Japanese or did not take it, but letters and thankful telegrams
          "Solemn Mikado" was sent and they expressed gratitude for the defeat of the Russian army. And grandfather Lenin had to sit in a concentration camp since 1914 as a citizen and a citizen of a strange enemy, and he was still in a trailer sealed by the authorities
          Germany returned to the homeland a question for what ???????????????
          1. BMW
            BMW 3 November 2015 16: 55 New
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            Quote: fiction
            but letters and thank you telegrams
            "Solemn Mikado" was sent and they expressed gratitude for the defeat of the Russian army.

            In any society, there will always be one percent g.v.s. There are various public institutions for this, for example, the media. What are these media doing now, huh? They cry for the innocently killed Nemtsov, who, without hiding, ran to the US Embassy for instruction. Was this media revealed and defamed? Is anything being done in the State Duma and the FSB about NGOs? So shake the air, if only URA themselves can scream with might.
            Quote: fiction
            the question has returned to the homeland for what ??

            Discard the rot, which he did without straining, as it itself fell apart. There is nothing to sing praises of monarchism, there is a natural process that rotted from the inside, then it will collapse itself and without help. There are historical examples, remember yourself.
            1. science fiction writer 3 November 2015 17: 34 New
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              What are these media doing now, huh? They cry for the innocently killed Nemtsov, who, without hiding, ran to the US Embassy for instruction. This has been shown and defamed by the media.

              Those media that I watch purely humanly illuminated the murder of a man no matter what he is a "politician" and do not even talk about him anymore. What are you watching and listening to ??
              Discard the rot, which he did without straining, as it itself fell apart. There is nothing to praises of monarchism

              Yes, he didn’t pick anything up, they didn’t even let him into Smolny upon arrival, all these revolutionaries in February 1917 threw out their own rot and they themselves drowned in it, and Ilyich arrived from the resorts, fresh forces came up.
              Is anything being done in the State Duma and the FSB about NGOs?

              And when, by law, they were asked for grannies how much screeching and whining was.
              1. BMW
                BMW 3 November 2015 17: 50 New
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                Quote: fiction
                purely humanly illuminated the murder

                I agree, but then how much fuss on his death was and it ended a month ago, when the monument was refused. It is good that the authorities showed a normal position.
                Quote: fiction
                fresh forces here and surfaced

                If that were so, they would strangle the October revolution at once, for a maximum of six months. You are cunning.
                Quote: fiction
                And when, by law, they were asked for grannies how much screeching and whining was.

                Then what? A nitsche.
                1. science fiction writer 3 November 2015 18: 17 New
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                  Then what? A nitsche.

                  And what do you want in 1937, I will not be frank, I do not mind, but where is the guarantee that those who are not guilty will not be kneaded.
                  If that were so, they would strangle the October revolution at once, for a maximum of six months. You are cunning

                  Initially, the question was that VILenin was very much helped to come to Russia and do what he did. If he himself could not get to the house without assistance, then at the initial stage he was helped. And its reversal z.o.p.o.y. to its former partners is the topic of another conversation.
                2. afdjhbn67 4 November 2015 03: 50 New
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                  Quote: bmw
                  Then what? A nitsche.

                  It’s hard for them to argue with Misha because they do not consider the processes leading to the creation of a revolutionary situation, but proceed from the theory of “velvet revolutions” - brought from outside, and not caused by internal premises leading to revolutions.
                  1. BMW
                    BMW 4 November 2015 06: 33 New
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                    Quote: afdjhbn67
                    they don’t consider the processes leading to the creation of a revolutionary situation,

                    Nikolay, the site traces the general line that a revolution cannot occur due to the incapacity of the government and the buildup of internal contradictions, but only by external influences. To consider that the Maidan occurred only thanks to the Nulland cookies, and not because of the exacerbation of class contradictions and the complete incapacity of the authorities, this is the height of hypocrisy, and an outright lie. We are laden with brains by all means in order to maintain control, which simply slips out from under our feet.
                  2. atalef 4 November 2015 07: 33 New
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                    Quote: afdjhbn67
                    Quote: bmw
                    Then what? A nitsche.

                    It’s hard for them to argue with Misha because they do not consider the processes leading to the creation of a revolutionary situation, but proceed from the theory of “velvet revolutions” - brought from outside, and not caused by internal premises leading to revolutions.

                    Good morning Nikolay !!
                    This is a very convenient theory for power.
                    It seems like a revolutionary situation and a desire for transformation - comes only from the outside, and the people as a dumb herd are being led to this.
                    That is, a priori they exclude one part of the revolutionary situation - the lower classes do not want to live in the old way, but about the upper ranks (who cannot control in the new way) - they don’t even think about it, because they consider the authorities a priori right and immaculate.
                    1. afdjhbn67 4 November 2015 07: 58 New
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                      Quote: atalef
                      Quote: afdjhbn67
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                      Then what? A nitsche.

                      It’s hard for them to argue with Misha because they do not consider the processes leading to the creation of a revolutionary situation, but proceed from the theory of “velvet revolutions” - brought from outside, and not caused by internal premises leading to revolutions.

                      Good morning Nikolay !!
                      This is a very convenient theory for power.
                      It seems like a revolutionary situation and a desire for transformation - comes only from the outside, and the people as a dumb herd are being led to this.
                      That is, a priori they exclude one part of the revolutionary situation - the lower classes do not want to live in the old way, but about the upper ranks (who cannot control in the new way) - they don’t even think about it, because they consider the authorities a priori right and immaculate.

                      Good morning, Sasha Hedgehog is understandable ... that’s what I’m afraid of .. that ordinary people may support all these marginals (Navalny and comrades) in case of economic deterioration and any other failures .. As long as Putin’s authority strengthens the country .. I’m afraid. Strong leader - strong country, weak - wait for trouble ..
                      Our mentality in general is characterized by faith in a good king and the infallibility of supreme power.
                      1. Sterlya 4 November 2015 10: 20 New
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                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        Nikolay, the site traces the general line that a revolution cannot occur due to the incapacity of the government and the buildup of internal contradictions, but only by external influences. To consider that the Maidan occurred only thanks to the Nulland cookies, and not because of the exacerbation of class contradictions and the complete incapacity of the authorities, this is the height of hypocrisy, and an outright lie. We are laden with brains by all means in order to maintain control, which simply slips out from under our feet.

                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        Good morning Nikolay !!
                        This is a very convenient theory for power.
                        It seems like a revolutionary situation and a desire for transformation - comes only from the outside, and the people as a dumb herd are being led to this.
                        That is, a priori they exclude one part of the revolutionary situation - the lower classes do not want to live in the old way, but about the upper ranks (who cannot control in the new way) - they don’t even think about it, because they consider the authorities a priori right and immaculate.

                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        Good morning, Sasha Hedgehog is understandable ... that’s what I’m afraid of .. that ordinary people may support all these marginals (Navalny and comrades) in case of economic deterioration and any other failures .. As long as Putin’s authority strengthens the country .. I’m afraid. Strong leader - strong country, weak - wait for trouble ..
                        Our mentality in general is characterized by faith in a good king and the infallibility of supreme power.

                        In a revolutionary situation in our time, as in everything changing., There cannot be only “bottoms, tops”, “influence of an external factor”, there is some kind of mixture, bringing to the threshold, even in which there is no way to break out without external influence.
                        90 years I was a 20 year old guy, I came already from the army. My environment and I did not at all dream of change and a better life. We lived normally. THIS all arose far from our Bashkiria.
                        WHO THAT originated. There was NOT a situation of destruction of the country.
                        NONE of my friends who lived with me in the USSR scold how scolds today.
                        There were many shortcomings in the USSR, but they required improvement, amendment, and not destruction. (This revolution is destruction (in my opinion))
                        A revolution in the name of something without basics is a disaster
                      2. BMW
                        BMW 4 November 2015 10: 59 New
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                        Quote: Sterlya
                        There was NOT a situation of destruction of the country.

                        I agree, but the government turned out to be incompetent. Remember GKChP, and Yanukovych, the parallel is obvious. The authorities could not protect itself, but in the end the country.
                      3. Sterlya 4 November 2015 13: 01 New
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                        Quote: bmw
                        Quote: Sterlya
                        There was NOT a situation of destruction of the country.

                        I agree, but the government turned out to be incompetent. Remember GKChP, and Yanukovych, the parallel is obvious. The authorities could not protect itself, but in the end the country.

                        Once in childhood, I believed that teachers are Right. Always and in Everything. But even in Soviet times there were enough scoundrels. And how painful it was for the first time for me to see, to understand that they were lying, they were acting wrong.
                        AND THESE. Tagged and Humpbacked. a signal that the Kremlin is not always right. In fact, there is no democracy in the world anywhere
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        4. Aleksander 3 November 2015 18: 00 New
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          Quote: bmw
          there is a natural process that rotted insidethen it will collapse by itself and without help. There are historical examples, remember yourself


          Remember of coursethis is the power of the communists!
          1. Sterlya 4 November 2015 13: 09 New
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            Quote: Aleksander
            Quote: bmw
            there is a natural process that rotted insidethen it will collapse by itself and without help. There are historical examples, remember yourself


            Remember of coursethis is the power of the communists!

            Yes, it's not the Communists. matter in people. frames.
            minus not with me.
      2. Wheel 3 November 2015 20: 57 New
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        And grandfather Lenin had to sit in a concentration camp since 1914 as a citizen and a citizen of a strange enemy, and he was still in a trailer sealed by the authorities
        Germany returned to the homeland a question for what ???????????????

        Before Lenin, Milyukov's friend returned in the same way.
        And in the next sealed car, Axelrod rode.
        And?
    5. Alexander Romanov 3 November 2015 16: 41 New
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      what’s your head in your head.

      No, it’s just that they are no longer brainwashed by communist ideology and people can draw conclusions themselves based on various sources and materials.
      1. BMW
        BMW 3 November 2015 17: 22 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        they are no longer brainwashed by communist ideology

        Well, yes, but in the trend the worship of the golden calf is also nothing brain washes. Yes, to foul the past so that they do not remember all the best. And one argument, what do you want, as in the 90s.
      2. venaya 3 November 2015 19: 20 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: bmw
        what’s your head in your head.
        No, it’s just that they are no longer brainwashed with communist ideology and people can draw their own conclusions based on various sources and materials.

        "they are no longer brainwashed by communist ideology"- What exactly is the difference: who cares what ideology is brainwashing people and lying godlessly, can it really change anything? Lies - there are lies, even if it has an ideological color. And Lenin also noted that" not there is non-partisan literature, "now it is seen especially clearly. Does anyone else still doubt it?
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      The meaning of the article is that revolution is used as a means of destruction from within the state, by external aggressors. But the cannon fodder for this uprising is always the local, always stupid people over-excited by injustice, and liberals have always been the shit of the nation on which you can’t make a revolution, but you can prove and help over-excite the idiots to seize power.
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      What kind of money can a situation be rocked in the country if almost everyone is happy with life?

      And if you are unhappy? If there really are real prerequisites and reasons to be dissatisfied with the authorities, and in this case you are ready to go and destroy your power and destroy the state ??? To the joy of foreign businessmen!
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      People, what’s that balanda in your head.

      Yes, the balanda in the head boils and drives mindlessly where it doesn’t get, then bites its elbows, and then Stalin has to be idiots in the camps to teach the mind to love the mind and love the homeland. Just the next time, it could be so bad.
      The article is very relevant for fools with a revolutionary itch.
      1. BMW
        BMW 3 November 2015 17: 34 New
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        And if you are unhappy?

        Then why do you immediately
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        destroy your power and destroy the state

        the fifth column wants it, I can’t name liberals, because they are Putin and the government.
        There are normal and legal ways to change course, if we do not change course in the next five years, then there will be 17 do not go to a fortuneteller. I do not want it.
        The article is, in fact, correct, but murky in its presentation. Fenced one upon the other. The internal objective situation in the country is completely impossible.
      2. Nikolay K 3 November 2015 18: 28 New
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        Are you the Bolsheviks, headed by Lenin and Trotsky, called liberals? External enemies of the state are always ready to use those who are ready to wreak havoc in the country for money. Moreover, it is a great honor for revolutionaries to accept such money not out of self-interest, but for ideological reasons, guided by the principle "the end justifies the means"
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        Your point of view is the point of view of a typical tradesman. That the people cannot be the creator of history, that the people are stupid, where they will be directed, that’s what it will go, that the people have no goal, no ideas, no means to achieve it, that the people should sit quietly, huddled in their holes and praise power, but simply put, enduring lawlessness. The Russian Revolution of 1905-1917 is a great event, enormous in scale, which awakened and stirred up the Russian people from centuries of sleep. The history of any revolution must be approached from a scientific point of view, and its causes must be sought. And such as Mr. Starikov simply lead people by the nose, using, by the way, the theory of liberals Milyukov, Guchkov, Protopopov, Konovalov and others who, justifying their failure, slandered the revolution, hinting at foreign money.
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          Quote: Rastas
          Russian revolution 1905-1917

          To begin with, 1905-1907. In 1917 there were two revolutions of February and October.
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          The history of any revolution must be approached from a scientific point of view, and its causes must be sought. And people like Mr. Starikov just lead people by the nose

          Just the other day, several revolutions took place in the world and people simply used it in all. And people like Starikov are just suitable from a scientific point of view - no slogans and a very simple question: "where does the money come from?"
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        And if you are unhappy? If there really are real prerequisites and reasons to be dissatisfied with the authorities, and in this case you are ready to go and destroy your power and destroy the state ??? To the joy of foreign businessmen!


        We who survived the time of Hunchback and EBN - no! But we are not eternal, unlike the enemies of Russia. Surviving the years 1916-17, would also not be led in the late 80s to an artificially created deficit of everything and everything, but they were no longer there. And the new generation, conceived by pseudo-historical "revelations and revelations", vigorously expressed their discontent. The result was a triple damned 90s.
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      There are always a lot of dissatisfied! What kind of money is available! If there are few local dissatisfied, then you can always hire guest workers.
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      In Libya, they rocked.
  2. antoXa 3 November 2015 16: 25 New
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    Proxima
    how is everything simple for you)))) is it to you that today everything is due to the fact that the government is bad? general corruption, etc. And in general, no America is to blame for anything - are we ourselves? Clever Proxima would like to become the President of Russia and do everything as it should, and then no enemy would be scared to us !!! but no one offers him this for some reason (((((
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      I suggest you, dear antoXa, reflect on the following circumstances. Before abdicating the throne, Nikolai sent telegrams to the higher generals. Almost all supported his abdication. This is Evert A.E. (Western Front), Brusilov A.A. (South-Western Front), Sakharov V.V. (Romanian Front), Baltic Fleet Commander Admiral Nepenin, etc. Only the commander of the Black Sea Fleet, Admiral Kolchak "abstained", he did not send a response telegram. I have a question for you: Brusilov and others, did the Japanese and the Germans also salivate a lot of money, or is there another reason? I will give you an analogy, the body’s immune system has dropped to zero and any bacteria can kill this body. The question is, who is to blame for this, a bacterium that the normal organism can’t handle, or is it a decrepit body?
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        Quote: Proxima
        I suggest you, dear antoXa, reflect on the following circumstances. Before abdicating the throne, Nikolai sent telegrams to the higher generals. Almost all supported his abdication. This is Evert A.E. (Western Front), Brusilov A.A. (South-Western Front), Sakharov V.V. (Romanian Front), Baltic Fleet Commander Admiral Nepenin, etc.

        Why are there generals - Rear Admiral, commander of the Guards Naval Crew vk Kirill Vladimirovich put on a red bow and led his sailors to the building of the State Duma under the red banner. Member of the Surname. Even before renunciation.
        Not otherwise, it is also the evil foreign agents to blame. smile
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          [/ Quote]
          Why are there generals - Rear Admiral, commander of the Guards Naval Crew vk Kirill Vladimirovich put on a red bow and led his sailors to the building of the State Duma under the red banner. Member of the Surname. Even before renunciation.
          Not otherwise, it is also the evil foreign agents to blame. smile[/ Quote]

          Yeah, and his son, Vladimir Kirillovich, in general dressed up in the SS uniform during the war. Maybe not literally dressed up, but had a direct relationship. And, mind you, this is the royal branch of the Romanovs at the moment!
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          The question is, who is to blame for this, a bacterium that the normal organism can’t handle, or is it a decrepit body?

          The decrepit body voted with all its decrepit organs to amputate the only healthy part of the body - the royal head. The main support of the tsar is the nobility, offended by the tsar for the loss of their former influence and greatness, all enrolled in the Republicans, and the Grand Dukes went to the Masons altogether. The bourgeoisie wanted the complete removal of restrictions on the looting of the country. Workers wanted to eat hazel grouse and drink champagne, criminals wanted freedom and young women. The church wanted peace, the Old Believers dreamed of revenge, the peasants were knee-deep all this mess. There were many reasons. Who said that Judas betrayed Christ exclusively for 30 pieces of silver. Yes, he took them - this is a historical fact, Lenin also took - this is also a fact. But who said that the proven fact is the only reason.
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        a bacterium that isn’t "over the teeth" a normal organism, or still a decrepit body

        There are tons of bacteria and viruses that kill any supernormal organism-AIDS, etc ....
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    Quote: Proxima
    But Lenin did not carry out the October Revolution because of the money of the Germans. Maybe the Germans threw some money and his brother Alexander, who was executed for attempted murder of the emperor?

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    The revolution of 1917 was made by the liberal elite, forcing the tsar to abdicate, then with his maidan rhetoric he destroyed the remnants of statehood. Lenin and the Bolsheviks took power that no one was interested in, everyone was preoccupied with small-town interests, albeit with loud conversations about the global. The Cadets, then the Socialist-Revolutionaries and Anarchists methodically, or vice versa, randomly, rocked the ship of the empire, which the Bolsheviks returned to the course, at great expense, of course, but this is not their only fault, as they try to imagine ...
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      Quote: Altona
      The Cadets, then the Socialist-Revolutionaries and Anarchists methodically, or vice versa, randomly, rocked the ship of the empire, which the Bolsheviks returned to the course, at great expense, of course, but this is not their only fault, as they try to imagine ...

      Here is a very correct assessment. hi
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      Lenin and the Bolsheviks took power, which no one was interested in, everyone was busy with small-town interests, though with loud talk about the global.


      All-Socialist Revolutionaries, Cadets, and Anarchists were interested. But all of them were afraid inadvertently by decisive actions to provoke fratricidal civil war, and even in conditions of war with an external aggressor, that’s why everyone was preparing with hope for the Constituent Assembly. Kornilov, Krymov acted extremely hesitantly and with caution, the same Kerensky — God forbid, harm his people !. The Bolshevik coupists (junta) acted in a completely different way — yes, resolutely and without regard to the huge sacrifices and interests of the country — they seized power, thereby unleashing a bloody civil war and betraying the victories and huge sacrifices of the Russian people in the Great War ...
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        Quote: Aleksander
        The Bolshevik coupists (junta) - yes, acted completely differently, resolutely and without regard to the huge sacrifices and interests of the country - seized power, thereby unleashing a bloody civil war and betraying the victories and huge sacrifices of the Russian people in the Great War ...

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        And what did other parties do to establish power, were there parallel administrations in the country? Anarchists in general in their pure form are opponents of any power. And what would the Constituent Assembly decide? The referendum of 1991 was against the collapse of the USSR, but this does not prevent you from broadcasting under the Romanian flag.
        PS "Do not be afraid of a man with a gun." However, "a rifle gives birth to power."
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          And what would the Constituent Assembly decide?

          It decided ALL—and the question of land, and the question of power — read the agenda of the still unsolved Assembly. The main thing is that it would stop the civil war. Deputies were, think about it-Dutov, Petlyura, Kerensky, Lenin, Milyukov! Exactly THERE, in Parliament, it was necessary to solve the problems of Russia, and not in the fratricidal war, but the Bolsheviks who lost the elections continued the coup .....
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            How do you imagine irreconcilable enemies in one harness? But what could they decide there? The Mensheviks had six factions, the Socialist-Revolutionaries - four, so that the Constituent Assembly was simply not able to seriously resolve any issues. Redistribution of land was already in full swing in the village. Who would dad Makhno reassure? Or does someone think that, having read the paper of the Constituent Assembly, he would immediately become white and fluffy? This Constituent Assembly would turn into an empty boltology, then a new Provisional Government would form and spin in a new way. The main advantage of the Bolsheviks was that they felt the mood of the street, they knew what the people wanted.
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              How do you imagine irreconcilable enemies in one harness? But what could they decide there?


              I simply imagine, for example, in the same way as it was at the State Duma meetings - the deputies, also irreconcilable with each other, argued hoarsely and -DECIDED-based on consensus, a majority of votes. These were citizens one country. So ANY questions are solved always and everywhere. And not on the street with a gun or on the Maidan
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        Keep these myths about indecision with you. The king sent eight regiments in February, led by General Ivanov, to pacify the rebellious capital. And where are those shelves? Melted like smoke, not wanting to shoot at the "rebels." And the point here was not the indecision or betrayal of the generals - a man dressed in soldier's overcoat reached the point beyond which all confidence in the monarchy had disappeared and no one wanted to defend Nicholas. The same thing happened with Kornilov, who was supported by the bourgeoisie, landowners and liberals - Milyukov, Guchkov and others, but against whom the people stood up, and his rebellion failed. Learn the story. These myths about the fact that it was enough to send a regiment, and everyone would have fled, had long been debunked. Emigration spread these myths later, not remembering that regiments were sent, but they were not going to shoot people.
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          Learn the story.

          Not for you to teach me. Your moldy agitation for allegedly "the will of the people" for the Bolshevik ghouls throw away, they are funny and stupid. The will is determined in the elections, which the Bolshevik junta miserably lost (and this is in conditions of the power it seized!). They didn’t play in the elections for the next 70 years.
          Wild inhuman cruelty, arrogant cynical lies and deceit, primitive popular populism is the instrument of the Bolsheviks, which allowed them to maintain power ....
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  4. Rastas 3 November 2015 20: 29 New
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    I just imagine how a Japanese spy walks in a Russian village and calls on men to riot.
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    But Lenin did not carry out the October Revolution because of the money of the Germans. Maybe the Germans threw some money and his brother Alexander, who was executed for attempted murder of the emperor? All this is primitive.

    Of course primitive. The bottom line is that both Vladimir and Alexander were, as it were, the Blanks for Mother. Well, about the same as the rest of the fighters for national happiness. And they did not make a revolution for the sake of the Japanese or Germans, but because of the hatred of historical Russia, which kept their fathers / grandfathers below the Pale of Settlement.
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    Interestingly, the author did not understand the difference between Maidan and the revolution.
    Maidan is a color revolution. The socio-political system remains the same, the oligarchs are the same, but the people who exercise power are changing, the balance of influence of external players and the final beneficiaries of the policies pursued in such a state are changing (this is understandable — whoever dines with the girl dances her). Nothing changes for the people.
    The revolution of the 1905 of the year is an attempt at socio-political change in Russia.
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    I agree, the whole amount of factors played a role. But nevertheless, most of these factors were inspired in foreign centers. Intelligence and counterintelligence worked badly. There was no analytical center. Therefore, there were too many mistakes!
  8. avdkrd 4 November 2015 02: 21 New
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    The revolution of 1905 did not happen because the Japanese financed someone there. But Lenin did not carry out the October Revolution because of the money of the Germans

    Oh, no need for historical necessity, etc.
    Any revolution is done on external financing. Neither the revolution of 1905 nor 1917 is an exception.
    Lenin did not commit the October Revolution because of the Germans 'money, and with the Germans' money, yes, however, by no means only the Germans. Lenin didn’t make a revolution at all, essentially the Social Revolutionaries did it, and Lenin orientated himself and essentially seized power, not really believing that it would be able to be held. In general, among the Maidan workers of those times there were confusion and vacillations, a constant squabble precisely for financing sometimes led to real hostilities.
    Ulyanov and his comrades-in-arms did not disdain any money (including famous exs), but first of all financing came from interested parties (it doesn’t happen otherwise) and Germany, being our enemy in the World War, was shelling out already. England, France and the United States simply did business - for whom the elimination of competitors, for whom access to resources. Schiff, by the way, “repelled” his investments not according to an abstruse scheme (such as a geopolitical advantage), but by direct access to the extraction of gold and furs. Rothschild, Morgan, Wartburg, Schiff (all the founders of the Fed) received a concession for the extraction of ALL gold and furs in Siberia and the Far East. Actually, the sanctions against the USSR in 1931 were caused by the nationalization of all concessions granted to Lenin and Trotsky (a US citizen, a passport personally by Woodrow Wilson) and, as a result, the Holodomor in the USSR. I don’t want to raise the “Jewish question”, but look at the names (not nicknames) of the Evolutionaries and ideologists of 1905-1917 yourself. Fortunately, Stalin managed to cope with this brotherhood by essentially making another revolution of 1924-1937.
    Of course, the revolutions in Russia are mostly to blame for the elite (as always, as always), the elite whom Catherine II had already freed from service, making drones out of the nobility. In a situation where there are privileges, but no obligations, the elite class has degenerated into those who in the seventeenth went with red bows and cursed the autocracy. The autocracy, of course, was to be blamed for, but not for social policy. Subsequently, everything repeated in 1990, when the snickering elite, already a party elite, wanted to again serfs. The elite again degraded because of the removed control by the MGB - Khrushch changed the “priest with an enema”, putting the MGB and KGB under party control. As a result, party functionaries received untouchable status and an almost hereditary transfer of “merit” - those who found the collapse of the USSR at a competent age remember how places were allocated in universities and what the Komsomol secretaries really did and what origin they had. Such an "elite" is always malleable to money, medals (foreign ones like Gorbachev) and cookies.
    Looking at the untouchables like Serdyukov and Vasilyeva (they really spanked her), Chubais and many other characters I understand that the case of Parvusov, Ulyanov and Trotsky will have their followers for a long time, since it has fertile ground among those who are used to eating both mouth and mouth ..
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    It is curious that already in our time, the liberal writer of detective stories Boris Akunin did not disdain shamelessly borrow this plot of the Russian classic for his book The Silver Chariot.
    I am pleased to read Akunin
  • Dart2027 3 November 2015 18: 56 New
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    And it always happens.
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    He is power - nobles, should not be overthrown?
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    Hmm. That's how interesting. It turns out that “pale young men with hot eyes” are completely controlled by cynical uncles in serious uniform.

    You do not confuse with a goose neck, something that should not. These people made another country with a different system, but still independent from the West. They were given money and had to pay something? But how else to overthrow a system that did not want to overthrow and change itself? Not the state, however, would give them money for this .. wink The revolutionaries had to get out. But Lenin is not Yaytsenyuk and others like him. At the first opportunity, he showed his borrowers and curators a hand to the very elbow and even managed to save Russia almost within the limits of imperial. And life in the USSR was still happier than in other countries. There is no absolute. In every country, in almost every family a fraudster, killers or crooks are born, etc. That is human nature. But by and large it was better and cleaner.
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    Russian liberals sent telegrams to the Japanese emperor wishing them a speedy victory. Just like modern homegrown liberals today

    Nothing has changed in this world, we’ll lick the snot, will be punished as then, and we won’t blink an eye. God grant that our mistakes are not wasted for us.
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      If the current elite continues to plunder the country and usurp power, it will be thrown off without outside help. Everyone needs to learn from historical mistakes.
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    There are many techniques that force even bright minds to subjugate themselves, directing them in a favorable direction, which they still use today.
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    The coup attempt of 1825 (Senate Square) .. also has English roots ... everything is as old as the world ..
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      The coup attempt of 1825 (Senate Square) .. also has English roots ... everything is as old as the world ..

      Well then, let’s take 24 years earlier hi The murder of Paul 1 also had English roots ..
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    “Shots carried out without hesitation saved many hundreds, and possibly thousands of lives! - writes Nikolay Starikov in his book “Who Finances the Collapse of Russia”. - And this is not an ode to violence and murder - it is iron logic and simple arithmetic. When the "principled opponents of violence" from the Provisional Government fires up the revolution in 1917, it will go to thousands and even millions of victims! ”

    In 1905, despite all the revolutionary fermentation, the army as a whole was faithful to central authority. Not for nothing that Chukhnin in Sevastopol when suppressing riots on ships used exactly the army.
    But in 1917 there was simply no one to shoot. The tsarist government lost control of the army (for which special thanks to the highest generals who betrayed the tsar), and the Temporary workers (especially after they approved the notorious "Order No. 1") did not receive this control. The maximum that they could count on in the first half of 1917 was military schools, Cossacks, shock battalions and several faithful units. The rest of the orders to receive an order from the VP would at best simply have turned up to them - as during the summer offensive of 1917. And at worst - they could come and ask: who is issuing such orders here?
    And in the second half of 1917 it only got worse - the VP did not find troops even to stop one cavalry division.
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      "But in 1917 there was simply no one to shoot." ////

      If power (any) rests on executions by its army
      of their people (even if deceived by paid foreign provocateurs) -
      such power - not for long.
      Smart power makes reforms BEFORE the "boiler begins to seethe."
      Therefore, in England, for example, for almost 500 years there have been no revolutions - clever queens
      and parliament made decisive (and quick!) social reforms
      "ahead of the curve" of popular anger. And the monarchy with the princes survived there, and the absurd lords fellow .
      And - no revolutions, although revolutionary French and Marxists actively conducted subversive agitation in Britain.
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        If power (any) rests on executions by its army
        of their people (even if deceived by paid foreign provocateurs) -
        such power - not for long.

        Blessed is he who believes. In 1932, Hoover in Washington rolled out tanks of the WWI veterans, demanding payment of the promised money. And nothing...
        By the way, that action was commanded by MacArthur (who was giving interviews to reporters), his assistant was Eisenhower, and one of the performers was Patton.
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          What are you saying? But in Cuba, Batista planted and shot people in batches, only this did not save his regime from the revolution. In South Vietnam, dictators also used repression with the help of troops, and the people all went into the jungle to the partisans. You see, people cannot be pacified with guns alone, and reforms are needed. In 89th, Dan Xiaoping had something to offer the people after the suppression of rallies on Tiananmen. And repressions at a certain stage do not calm, but begin to embitter.
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        And - no revolutions, although revolutionary French and Marxists actively conducted subversive agitation in Britain

        Correctly. Just forget one thing: do not be a Union, who knows that it was there. They simply had to maintain a high standard of living.
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          And until the 17 of the year did they also maintain a high standard of living for the proletariat? And during the period of the Great Depression, did ordinary people in the West also live happily ever after? The Bolshevik coup in Russia was completely NOT logical from a historical point of view, since according to the classical teachings of Karl Marx, the most developed countries were the first to take the socialist path. The revolution in Russia was a vaccine for the rest of the developed world, showing what the PRACTICE leads to the implementation of communist ideas. In this sense, indeed, Russia has saved the rest of the world.
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        If the government (any) rests on executions of its people by its army (even if deceived by paid foreign provocateurs) -
        such power - not for long. ...
        Therefore, in England, for example, for almost 500 years there have been no revolutions - the stupid queens and parliament made decisive (and quick!) Social reforms ...
        And - no revolutions, although revolutionary French and Marxists actively conducted subversive agitation in Britain.

        Yes, it is strong! Let's remember together: it was the revolution of the butcher Cromwell that brought to real power in England those who organize revolutions around the world, so far. About: "500 years no revolutions"But what about the shooting of the insurgent workers of the city of Manchester in I Morova from the ship’s guns? Not a single newspaper wrote about this, it turns out that this did not happen, although the ship fleet with heavy guns was pulled up to the city and shot the rebels directly in residential quarters along with women and children. In your opinion, it turns out that only what is organized by financial financiers can be considered a revolution, the rest, regardless of the scale of the uprising, does not draw on the concept of “revolution”, since it is organized by the wrong people, and not with tasks defined by bankers. Something in your logic has a place to be very unusual and not familiar, for people with ordinary logic.
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        At one time, Cromwell showed the British what revolution is, he showed it with bloody examples, he was one of the first to show it, he scared the aristocracy to death and gave it an excellent tool for influencing competitors. And off we go. English ears stick out from all the revolutions in which all the competitors of England perished. Do you think that a state that organizes revolutions in other countries at the hands of special services cannot protect itself from this? All promoted to the ship and to America, Australia. It was not for nothing that an emigrant class appeared on the transatlantic just when the revolution began in Europe. And social transformations .. What are you talking about? But all the separatists from the Russian Empire in London felt at home. Capital was also written in London. Congresses of the Russian Social Democratic Labor Party took place there, but the RSDLP, the international also appeared there.
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    The "go-ahead" of the so-called "liberal intelligentsia" was given by a shot by Vera Zasulich and her subsequent excuse of the so-called "jury" after the lawyer's speech. After this, revolutionary activity ceased to be something out of the ordinary in the brains of ordinary people. A certain taboo was removed in the public mind. Soon after, the king-liberator himself became a victim of the killers .. And the intellectuals? Intellectuals went wild with faith in their delusional ideals to improve society. When the Lord wants to punish, he destroys the mind ..
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      We still have many who believe in the delirious ideals of liberals at the beginning of the 20 century, Lenin and Trotsky, only now their name is different.
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    And NGOs continue to operate in our country. They must be closed until they were shot.
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    This is from the category - "Kill my mother ..."
    And they are killed by those over whom sleepless nights sat parents.
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    For dreamers, the plot of a science fiction film:
    Citizen Andrei Sokolov, after writing the above-mentioned article in VO, the aliens are handed a device on which there is a button, by pressing it the historical event is canceled. And now he cancels with a button the revolution in Russia of 1905 and 1917. After which the device falls to the floor, it disappears, and the internal and external landscape changes dramatically - pavers, churches are seen around, German is heard ...
  • made13 3 November 2015 16: 42 New
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    More often it is necessary to remind society of history - the "partners" are not asleep.
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      Quote: made13
      More often it is necessary to remind society of history - the "partners" are not asleep.

      Remind some - don’t remind, anyway they will jump over the rake, they will also start writing their own pseudo-history. I'm talking about a country where Peter works as a president Piglet ..

      We, too, are so overwhelmed with history that even in VO there are enough admirers of Rezun.
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    In total, in 1905, 3228 peasant uprisings were recorded, in 1906 - 2600, in 1907 - 1337. Contemporaries spoke of the peasant war that began in Russia against the landlords, for transferring all the land to those who cultivate it with their labor. "The idea of ​​belonging of the whole land to peasants served as the slogan of the rebels ..." - Minister of Agriculture S. Ermolov wrote to Nicholas II. From the order of the Minister of Internal Affairs P. Durnovo to the Kiev Governor-General. "... to immediately destroy, by force of arms of the rebels, and in case of resistance, to burn their homes ... The arrests now do not reach the goal: it is impossible to judge hundreds and thousands of people." These instructions were fully consistent with the order of the Tambov vice governor to the police command: "arrest less, shoot more ..." The governor-generals in the Yekaterinoslav and Kursk provinces acted even more decisively, resorting to shelling of the rebellious population ... Somehow, it does not smell like "maidan". .or December 1905, a telegram to Nicholas II from the commander of the Black Sea Fleet commander: in Novorossiysk “revolutionaries seized power ... In Novorossiysk a provisional government was announced with the presidium at the head.” The Novorossiysk republic had neither its own constitution nor coat of arms , no anthem, no banknotes, but she had her own government - the Council of Workers' Deputies and its own army. This people's government appointed a “revolutionary governor” in the city - the teacher Sinyukhov. The Council set the task to alleviate the difficult situation of the working people of Novorossiysk. Factories and plants, institutions and shops continued to operate. The Council allocated unemployment benefits to the unemployed, secured the reinstatement of illegally laid-off workers from the cement plant and from the port. According to the requirements of the workers, trading hours for shops, new food prices, and the sale of alcohol were prohibited. The council supervised the work of the city post office, telegraph, telephone, city council. An army was created. The large transport ship Tsar with a landing and the battleship Three Saints were sent to strangle the uprising from the sea. A punitive detachment with artillery was moving along the railway. Sailors from the battleship refused to shoot the insurgent workers. But the forces were unequal. Squeezed from the sea and from land, one of the first workers 'republics in Russia lasted fifteen days and was crushed by the tsarist government ... Sinyukhov then, according to the author, turns out to be a foreign agent like a workers' government .. And there were similar republics many .. in that period: the Chechelev Republic, the Lyubotinsky Republic, in the cities of Ostrovets, Ilzha and Chmelov - the Ostrovets Republic.
    1. Was mammoth 3 November 2015 18: 09 New
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      Quote: parusnik
      In total, in 1905, 3228 peasant uprisings were recorded, in 1906 - 2600, in 1907 - 1337

      And, interestingly, all the leaders of the uprisings were hereditary samurai. To her!
      The appearance of libel on the eve of the Great October Socialist Revolution does not surprise me. This is already a tradition. Slander. Only that I read about the "mysterious" murder of M. Frunze. And now about the "Maidan of 1905."
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        dmb 3 November 2015 23: 18 New
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        The funny thing is that all the current critics of the Bolsheviks from the "monarchists" to the fans of "chredilovka" do not even think about the fact that they now betray the memory of their parents who fought and died for Soviet power. True, they can all be from graphs or right owners. Then, again, they breach that the Soviet power has destroyed them. They survived, and judging by the number on the site, where in greater numbers than their opponents. There is also a third option, fantastic ignorance.
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          they don’t even think about the fact that they are now betraying the memory of their parents, who were fighting and dying for Soviet power

          But just counts fought for Russia? The history of the country and the people is not the history of the USSR, but the USSR is part of this history. And not only the noble or the rich fought with the Bolsheviks.
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            dmb 4 November 2015 17: 44 New
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            First of all. Did I somewhere say the opposite about the history of Russia? Even the current infamous power is also the history of Russia. The second. If you claim that the Bolsheviks fought against Russia, then once again you confirm everything I said above, for which you personally thank a lot.
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              If you claim that the Bolsheviks fought against Russia

              The Bolsheviks did a lot and not only good. The creation of Ukraine as a state is their work. The loss of the Baltic states, Poland and Finland - is it for the good of the country? But the same is true.
              Quote: dmb
              Did I somewhere say the opposite about the history of Russia?

              Then do not appeal to the memory of parents.
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                dmb 4 November 2015 21: 24 New
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                You are our Bonaparte, read the story of your own country, you can understand why the Bolsheviks did not rush to fight for Finland and Poland. For Poland, by the way, they rushed, for which now the same Tukhachevsky’s mud is poured over. And I don’t appeal to my parents, I didn’t have any differences with them and I didn’t betray their memory.
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                  Bonaparte You are ours, read the history of your own country

                  I read - at first they supported nationalism with all their might wherever they could, and then they themselves received from it.
                  And if you recall the history of the destruction of the USSR, then foreign agents were also noted there.
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                    Apparently through the line read. Otherwise, at least for themselves, they tried to explain why Poland and Finland (the enemy in the war) were not attached even having the army tempered with victories in 1945, but were shoved away from the "sixteenth republic" of Bulgaria, like a devil from incense. About Ukraine in general laughter. Apparently, you don’t even read articles on HE, let alone history books. State your vision of the development of the country after February of 17, to which the Bolsheviks had a very indirect relationship, we read with pleasure.
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                      Quote: dmb
                      not attached

                      If you read the story, you would know that they did not need to be attached because the Russian tsars did it.
                      Quote: dmb
                      About Ukraine in general laughter

                      Then be kind enough to show me a map on which the state of Ukraine will be shown before it was created by the Bolsheviks?
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                        Yeah, the third option in all its glory. Russian kings attached them when the opportunity was. And the possibility of their retention was lost under the same Russian tsar, to the overthrow of which the Bolsheviks were least involved. Well, I will not tell you about the Central Rada, which the Bolsheviks kicked out with its sovereignty. Of course you can be proud of ignorance, it brightens the gray everyday life of people who value humor.
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                        Quote: dmb
                        And the possibility of their retention was lost under the same Russian tsar, to the overthrow of which the Bolsheviks were least involved

                        Truth? The fact that the Bolsheviks had nothing to do with the overthrow of the tsar is true, but why has it become impossible to keep them?
                        Quote: dmb
                        Well, about the Central Rada, which with its sovereignty was kicked out by the Bolsheviks

                        And then they began to build some kind of Ukraine, as part of the USSR. Of course, one can be proud of ignorance, it brightens up the gray everyday life of people who appreciate humor.
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    [quote = COSMOS] The meaning of the article is that the revolution is used as a means of destruction from within the state, by external aggressors.
    The meaning of the article is that you do not need to look for the true reason that led the Russian state to disaster, which makes the real classic HISTORY and do not repeat such mistakes again. The article suggests, together with Solzhenitsyn and Starikov, delving into dirty laundry, finding financial traffic, who recruited whom, etc., in a word to touch on an endless topic.
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      History always comes back, and therefore you need to know it.
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    what’s your head in your head.
    What kind of money can a situation be rocked in the country if almost everyone is happy with life? Carry crap, and the author horseradish. fool

    So it all happened, and the people were not happy, and there were those who gave the money, and those traitors who used enemy money to play on the feelings of the displeased people. The point is that if he is not happy, he takes money from the enemy’s country, then this supposedly revolutionary, a banal traitor, a puppet of Western special services!
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      BMW 3 November 2015 18: 05 New
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      Quote: Stas157
      The point is that if he is not happy, he takes money from the enemy’s country, then this supposedly revolutionary, a banal traitor, a puppet of Western special services!

      Just do not say that the uprisings were made with Japanese money. The objective situation in the country has led to this. Read Sailboat's comment. And yes, the family has its black sheep.
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        Yes, there was not only Japanese money, but also German and American! Any revolution was paid by someone! In Ukraine, they forgot what happened a long time ago? The people (roughly) are divided into 2 parts about the Russian vector and those who are for Europe. If millions rode on the Maidan, they were supported by singers and artists, European leaders came to the Maidan! All the press and television worked for it! Money flowed! Instructors taught "they are children." They received other grants ... That is, no one paid or supported anything for support about the Russian part of the population, respectively! So this one about Russian (or at least simply disagreeing with Maidan) sat quietly at home! And if someone went to rallies, then this did not enter into any comparison, then what was happening on the Maidan! That's the whole layout. The people were roughly divided by sex in opinion, but at the same time, one half thundered and achieved everything, because money and support for the entire progressive West and the other were not heard at all (no one supported either financially or by actions), therefore they scored and shut up.
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        Just do not say that the uprisings were made with Japanese money.


        And Kiev Maidan, is it the will of the Ukrainian people or Amer’s money?
    2. Nikolay K 3 November 2015 18: 57 New
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      Do you think the dissatisfied takes the money directly to the diplomatic mission of the enemy country? Naturally, money is allocated through various sorts of dummies, now through NGOs and various grants.
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  • Proxima 3 November 2015 18: 43 New
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    Quote: Aleksander
    Quote: Proxima
    a bacterium that isn’t "over the teeth" a normal organism, or still a decrepit body

    There are tons of bacteria and viruses that kill any supernormal organism-AIDS, etc ....

    It's not a respected bacteria. An article is not only useless, it is also harmful. Who needs information who kept what store and hangout with prostitutes, then let them read the "liberal" Akunin. Why do you need to upload it to VO? Maybe because you need to lead the reader away from the true cause of the disaster, so that we repeat it in the future?
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    That’s how they oppose the government - it’s not possible, it’s betrayal, etc., but the authorities can produce rich Jewish mutants, lift up tariffs, although there is always a decrease in raw material prices, salary knows what and a lot of things
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      That's right, but that is precisely what the cunningly entwined Euro-positioners will usually take advantage of. People in Maidan also came out against the arbitrariness of Yanukovych’s policies. and shame on us. He should be in Donetsk, with people, to fight in the field, and not sit on our grub.
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    The Maidan of 1905 was predetermined by Alexander 2, who gave the peasant freedom but did not give land. A huge number of people who went to the cities and became the force that helped realize 1905 were freed.

    Why did the West not realize this immediately after the death of Alexander 2?

    Yes, because the peasant who was left without land and, therefore, the means of subsistence of his shit family, had not yet sipped, and the very wise and confident rule of Alexander the 3rd prevented this.
    In 1905, everything came together (the tsar-, rotten elite, losing the war with Japan, landless peasants).
    All the actions of the frightened tsar then predetermined the death of the Russian Empire and the tsar himself.
    The funny thing is that in the success of the 1917 revolution, the prohibition adopted in 1914 played a tangible role, as in the collapse of the USSR at the time.
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    The question is, who is to blame for this, a bacterium that the normal organism can’t handle, or is it a decrepit body?

    The decrepit body voted with all its decrepit organs to amputate the only healthy part of the body - the royal head.

    Is Nikolai the only healthy part? The end of the play, the curtain! According to the degree of responsibility for the collapse of Russia, he is criminal No. 1 !!! One can talk endlessly about the manic activity of this "sovereign." I will quote you better the prophetic lines of Balmont written in 1906.
    Our king is Mukden, our king is Tsushima.
    Our king is a bloody stain
    The stench of gunpowder and smoke
    In which the mind is dark
    Our king is blind misery
    Prison and whip, trial, execution,
    The king is the gallows, twice as low
    What he promised, but did not dare to give,
    He is a coward, he feels with a hesitation,
    But there will be an hour, reckoning awaits.
    Who began to reign - Khodynka,
    He will end - standing on the scaffold.
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    2. Heimdall48 3 November 2015 21: 37 New
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      Better to quote you the prophetic lines of Balmont, written in 1906.

      Well Balmont wrote nonsense, guessed a bit and now what? It is not necessary to make a prophet out of a left rhyme ripper who ended his life in exile and poverty. The boat was rocked by the stupidity of talkers and scribes, and they themselves were drowned.
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    My son! Listen to my story
    About our homeland, about us,
    About those many years ago
    Having raised Moscow and Petrograd,
    Under the red banner in battle
    Freedom defended his
    And gave youth to the struggle,
    So that you live well!

    You go to school, in third grade,
    Like thousands of children.
    We have a lot of schoolchildren,
    And everyone is literate!

    And before, many years ago,
    The king ruled the country.
    And not all the guys were
    Notebooks and primer.

    The children of the rich studied:
    Sons of merchants, nobles.
    Not many children went to schools
    Workers and peasants.

    From year to year, a man plowed,
    And he sowed and ground
    And peasant bread got
    To the landowner on the table.

    Worked with all my might,
    Poor man
    But the master fed his fill ...
    Hunting dogs.

    For hundreds of miles - forests, scorching,
    Plains and meadows
    And all is landowner land
    Wherever you step your foot!

    In the meadows - the master’s grass,
    In the forests - master's firewood,
    There is a ban on everything.
    A master, know yourself living
    On my landlord's income,
    And he eats sweetly and drinks sweetly -
    There is no sorrow for him!

    And in cities from year to year,
    To the grave, all my life,
    Also worked for gentlemen
    Worker.

    There is a worker at the machine,
    At the blast furnace
    There is a joiner at the workbench -
    Work and be silent!

    And if it becomes unbearable,
    You will clench your fist in your hearts
    You’ll go on demand,
    Raise the red flag -
    The gendarmes will seize, beat,
    Find out where the prison is
    And how the wells sing
    When their way is far ...

    But there were people on earth,
    What did they think of those
    Who lives in bondage
    The worst in the world.

    They escaped from prison
    To lead your people
    So that the age-old kingdom of darkness
    From the face of the earth sweep.

    They wanted the people
    Was full, shod, dressed
    And did not work for gentlemen,
    As it was hundreds of years.

    So free and strong
    Among the neighboring countries,
    It was the first country
    Workers and peasants!

    S. Mikhalkov. Conversation with son
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    laughing A motley campaign has gathered here. They want to see the 37th year. Just notice, the first to notice you yourself, according to the denunciation of your neighbors. And they won’t understand there, because the neighbor will be in another cell denouncing the other neighbor.
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    Quote: Heimdall48

    Well Balmont wrote nonsense, guessed a bit and now what? It is not necessary to make a prophet out of a left rhyme ripper who ended his life in exile and poverty. The boat was rocked by the stupidity of talkers and scribes, and they themselves were drowned.

    It's not about poetry, although I like Balmond (a matter of taste). The question is different, namely, "about the innocently killed, St. Nicholas" Bloody. About his degree of responsibility for the disaster that happened with our (and maybe yours) Fatherland. I don’t have enough finger strength to list all the abominations that he did to our country (or yours, excuse my epaulets from some kind of muddy) country. This is about speech, not poetry.
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      About his degree of responsibility for the disaster that happened with our (and maybe yours) Fatherland. I don’t have enough finger strength to list all the abominations that he created

      Yes, he did not create anything, do not invent. The Tsar was a good, kind man sincerely loving Russia. One was a minus - it was not suitable for governing the country. The flaw is large, but he paid for it in full with his own blood and the blood of his family and friends. With all the desire for a higher price for his mistakes, he could not give. That's why there are enough dogs to hang him all.
      Note also that this people swore allegiance to him and the people threw it, and not vice versa. If you your father kicked him out of the house in the cold, and he left and silently froze on the street who is to blame - father or you?
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        Kings have never been fathers to the people. Do not go too far. And the monarchy fell not because of Nicholas, but because the state apparatus did not correspond to the time. The lower classes did not want to live the old way, but the upper classes could not do anything. And yet, Nikolai, as a father, was clearly not up to the mark, dancing at the ball after Khodynka, after the executions on January 9 and on Lena in the 12th.
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    Do you think the dissatisfied takes the money directly to the diplomatic mission of the enemy country?

    I think not happy with nothing at all. Their destiny is to be an indignant crowd, ride on the Maidan! They are controlled (incited, organized), usually by trained people who receive money from the enemy for this. And the ways of getting are different!
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    Yes, more than a hundred years have passed, but this audience has not changed at all! Their attitude to what happened and is happening in the Donbass, and now in Syria - is the same: they again violently crave the defeat and collapse of Russia. and things are still there, we must act like Razin, with the princess ...............
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    [/ Quote]
    Yes, he did not create anything, do not invent. The Tsar was a good, kind man sincerely loving Russia. [/ quote]
    Listen, maybe stop mocking? Take a few points. Khodynka tragedy. More than 5000 people were killed. Could coronation have been transferred, or at least reduced it? Nikolai had fun and drank vodka in full. Tsushima disaster. Current affairs on this occasion a lot! Could you postpone the hunt, or at least interrupt the tennis game at the time of the news? Nothing like this! Such moments can be listed indefinitely.
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    The weapon of any opposition is a nation that expresses dissatisfaction with some particular aspects of the country's life.
    In response to popular rallies gathered by the opposition, smart power begins to do more for the people, and stupid people begin to share power with the opposition.
    Nicholas 2 was just from a stupid government which, instead of cutting the people of the earth, made concessions to the opposition and opened the State Duma.