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Su-25 attack aircraft of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - modern composition

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In this article, we will consider the Ukrainian Su-25 on 2015 year, taking into account combat losses in the Donbas.


During the fighting in the Donbass, the Ukrainian Air Force lost 5 Su-25 attack aircraft, by the end of the summer of 2014 flights aviation have stopped. The last loss was the board of the Su-25M1 08 near Starobeshevo.

For a conflict of this scale, with a fairly large theater, the number of Su-25 was very small. Total 14 drill boards.
5 losses greatly reduced the capabilities of 299-th Brta and forced the command to climb into the reserves.

Where does Ukraine have reserves from? from the USSR. Huge groundwork, a large number of aircraft. On storage aircraft look not very fresh, misleading people. In fact, most of these aircraft are subject to recovery (at the expense of TECH or ARZ).
It's like with tanks in Kharkov. At the "cemetery" there are only buildings, and full-fledged combat-ready MBTs come out.

Such storage here ...

We turn to combat aircraft.

Su-25 b / n 01 - there were disputes that the plane may be badly damaged or lost in the ATO. The photo of the live appeared a week ago.

Su-25 attack aircraft of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - modern composition


Su-25 b / n 02



Su-25 (М1?) W / o 09 - the aircraft was repaired and most likely modernized at the MigRemont plant, rolled out in April 2015.



Su-25 b / n 10 - there were disputes that the plane may be badly damaged or lost in the ATO. The photo of the live appeared a week ago.



Su-25 (М1?) B / n 15 - rolled out from ARZ in April 2015 of the year. Probably M1.



Su-25 b / n 16 - repaired in the TEC of the brigade.



Su-25 b / n 19 - repaired in the TEC of the brigade.



Su-25 b / n 20 - repaired in the TEC of the brigade. Since the 16, 19, 20 troika was repaired without ARZ participation, all the airplanes in the old Flora camouflage.



Su-25 b / n 24



Su-25 b / n 27



Su-25 b / n 29



Su-25 Sparka w / 60



Su-25 Sparka w / 61



Su-25 (UBM1?) "Spark" w / 64 - rolled out in April of this year.



Su-25 "Spark" b / n 65 - actively flying Spark, brightened at the recent exercises in Nikolaev.



Su-25М1 b / n 05



Su-25М1 b / n 07



Su-25М1 b / n 17 - new board. Lit up today at the exercises in Nikolaev.



Su-25М1 b / n 37 - new board. Lit up recently. Modernized, there are new devices for the release of heat traps "Adros-KUV".



Su-25М1 b / n 35 - new board. Lit up today at the exercises in Nikolaev.



Su-25М1 b / n 38 - known and active board. Often flies to the teachings. Veteran ATO.



Su-25М1 b / n 40



Su-25М1 b / n 41



Su-25UBM1 Spark w / 62



Summing up.

Currently, the team has 25 confirmed live video attack photo and video data.

A few more planes (b / n 18, 32) were revived at the expense of TEC, but there is no photo yet. Conditionally take 27.

There are a few more boards on the MigRemont plant, as soon as they are rolled out, I update the article.

Ukrainian Air Forces already have a full-fledged SHAP (assault aviation regiment) with the prospect of building up to brigade state.

All data collected from open sources and are not secret.

In this article I did not give out any extra information, the intelligence of the Russian Federation knows and sees everything. The article is intended for aviation enthusiasts and those interested in the context of war.
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  1. Walking
    Walking 7 November 2015 07: 11
    31
    Prepare, female dogs.
    1. vodolaz
      vodolaz 7 November 2015 13: 39
      +6
      And do not say. Although 30 attack aircraft for the country in 40 of millions of the population is, from the point of view of the army, a complete nightmare. And from the point of view of the inhabitants of Donbass, it’s the other way around.
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 7 November 2015 13: 51
        53
        The air assault regiment "from the point of view of the inhabitants of DONBASS" IS HELL IS BIG. Because they will not be used throughout Ukraine, but on a limited section of the front, where such a number of attack aircraft is quite enough to arrange a "lunar surface". A word for air defense ... soldier
        1. svp67
          svp67 7 November 2015 18: 10
          +8
          Quote: marlin1203
          The air assault regiment "from the point of view of the inhabitants of DONBASS" IS HELL IS BIG.

          Taking into account the modernized Su24, MiG29 and combat helicopters - a force capable of a real "NIGHTMARE" for Donbass
        2. exSUman
          exSUman 7 November 2015 21: 35
          12
          For a properly set up military air defense service in the army of Novorossia, these attack aircraft will cease to be a problem very quickly ... an attack aircraft is expensive, and a pilot is even more expensive. Launching three "Eagles", one on the oncoming course and two on the catch-up course, will make the pilot's fight for the aircraft's survivability absolutely hopeless ... Fortunately, the Donbass landscape allows the use of MANPADS everywhere ...
          1. Vadimsh
            Vadimsh 8 November 2015 15: 07
            +1
            very correct, but quite enough 2
        3. Sergei1982
          Sergei1982 8 November 2015 16: 08
          +4
          The Aviation Assault Regiment "from the point of view of the residents of DONBASS" IS HELL GREAT. Because they will not be used throughout Ukraine, but on a limited section of the front, where such a number of attack aircraft is quite enough to arrange a "lunar surface".
          I agree that, if used correctly, this is a formidable force, if I am not mistaken, there were no more than 36 su-25s in Afghanistan all the time, and they took 1/5 of all sorties, see what a little more than 30 of our planes are doing in Syria. On the whole, an increase from 9 Su-25 to 25-27 in just a year, shows that Bandera managed to organize the restoration of aircraft. So, to take this force seriously, it’s interesting how they remember from raids before 30-40 hours. Please note that some already cost Soep Adros.
      2. Good me
        Good me 7 November 2015 14: 43
        +5
        Quote: vodolaz
        And do not say. Although 30 attack aircraft for the country in 40 of millions of the population is, from the point of view of the army, a complete nightmare. And from the point of view of the inhabitants of Donbass, it’s the other way around.


        Quote: marlin1203
        The air assault regiment "from the point of view of the inhabitants of DONBASS" IS HELL IS BIG. Because they will not be used throughout Ukraine, but on a limited section of the front, where such a number of attack aircraft is quite enough to arrange a "lunar surface". A word for air defense ... soldier


        Both are right ... But vodolaz, to a lesser extent, due to a misunderstanding of what marlin1203 wrote about ...
    2. perm23
      perm23 7 November 2015 16: 34
      +8
      If you don’t finish off the enemy right away, then he will prepare and hit again - an axiom.
  2. dmitrich
    dmitrich 7 November 2015 07: 14
    -8
    and why are you telling us this!
    1. Good me
      Good me 7 November 2015 08: 01
      27
      Su-25 b / n 01 - there were disputes that the plane may be badly damaged or lost in the ATO. The photo of the live appeared a week ago.


      Such "facts", "miraculous resurrection", "heroic" aircraft, apparently, should be approached with a certain amount of skepticism.

      After all, we are dealing with information from ukroSMI, "kindly provided" by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine ...
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 7 November 2015 08: 28
        54
        "Kind Me" Colleague, I greet you this Saturday morning.
        After the collapse of the USSR, the Ukrainian army inherited perhaps the greatest legacy in the form of aviation technology. Hundreds of "mothballed" aircraft. mig23, tu22, mig27, and hundreds of other machines. I've seen it myself.
        Do not underestimate the capabilities of the enemy. One and a half years of defeats still teach something.
        I think that without the open help of our Aerospace Forces it is unlikely that it will be possible to quickly eliminate the threat of the Ukrainian Air Force. Although, even if the LPR militia managed to shoot down the "point at". years of his absolutely thought-out attitude. Can it be that people in the General Staff are not all careerists! I am even afraid to jinx it.
        1. avt
          avt 7 November 2015 09: 06
          12
          Quote: Observer2014
          After the collapse of the USSR, the Ukrainian army was almost the largest legacy in the form of aircraft.

          If memory serves - two air armies, and even strategists, well, the strategists were cut and sold,
          Quote: Observer2014
          .Hundreds of "mothballed" aircraft. mig23, tu22, mig27, and hundreds of other machines.

          You need to be able to keep the cars more complicated, and especially with variable sweep, but you need to be able to properly store the Su-25, and you really don’t need to restore the help of the plant in Tbilisi, but you could buy Israeli avionics specialists, but I hope that the grandmas are stupid with .. . Communize.
          Quote: PlotnikoffDD
          And it's all??? The strongest air forces of the strongest army in Europe?))

          No. This "all" can really let blood flow, no need to throw hats!
        2. Good me
          Good me 7 November 2015 10: 39
          +6
          Quote: Observer2014
          "Kind Me" Colleague, I greet you this Saturday morning.


          Exactly the same yes lol

          Quote: Observer2014
          I think that without the open help of our Aerospace Forces, it is unlikely that it will be possible to quickly eliminate the threat of the Ukrainian Air Force. Although, even if the LPR militia managed to shoot down the "point at". I hope our General Staff has worked out the issue


          The question, of course, "worked out", but not in the field of videoconferencing, but in a slightly different plan repeat

          And the "point" was hit not only in the LPR ... yes
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 7 November 2015 14: 44
            +2
            Quote: Good Me
            Exactly the same

            Is it also disguised as you .. tongue laughing
            everything went to google avatars .. laughing
            1. Good me
              Good me 7 November 2015 22: 11
              +4
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              Is it also disguised as you ..
              everything went to google avatars.

              Why google it ... Here:
              1. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 8 November 2015 00: 52
                0
                Quote: Good I
                Quote: afdjhbn67
                Is it also disguised as you ..
                everything went to google avatars.

                Why google it ... Here:

                Thank you, but late I'm already - gu-hu .. laughing
                1. Good me
                  Good me 8 November 2015 09: 31
                  0
                  Quote: afdjhbn67
                  Thank you, but late I'm already - gu-hu ..

                  Not noticeable ... No.
        3. Orionvit
          Orionvit 8 November 2015 22: 19
          +2
          Been in 2007 at the Ozernoye airfield near Zhytomyr. Almost nothing remained of the former heritage of the USSR. He counted eight MIG-29s, of which only four could fly, and that’s all. And this is at a rather large airfield at the Union. No MIG-27, MIG-23, TU-22, SU-24, nothing. However, huge ammunition depots remained. Rotten boxes with missiles and bombs in the open air, a sad sight. Moreover, the mass of ammunition that can not be launched with anything, since the carriers are either cut into scrap metal or sold for nothing to third countries.
          1. Petrol
            Petrol 11 November 2015 16: 35
            0
            today the spark fell .... dviglo cut Yegor pulled to the last wanted to save the car.
            FUCKING staff guilty to order extended the term of what was written off a long time ago
      2. Forest
        Forest 7 November 2015 12: 13
        +1
        After the collapse of the USSR in Ukraine, a huge amount of equipment remained, until the end of the 90s they could even capture the European part of Russia, since there was nuclear weapons.
        1. Megatron
          Megatron 8 November 2015 02: 36
          0
          They could not, for all were engaged in general theft.
          If still not everyone has even stolen. Weapon baron watched?
          1. Forest
            Forest 8 November 2015 21: 25
            +2
            Only ours then stole and sawed, and that they didn’t steal, they poured into Chechnya.
        2. Petrol
          Petrol 9 November 2015 12: 36
          0
          Forest
          what the heck to "capture" in 97, out of 28 units, only 4 flew
          and the neighbors in general .... in 2002 I watched a picture of how to pull the copper cables of the airfield power from the ground by zil_ami.
          1. Forest
            Forest 9 November 2015 17: 28
            0
            In Bati, in the fighter aviation regiment for the 2 month, tons of fuel were allocated in 97-98. Like the rest is all in Chechnya.
      3. roadsmell
        roadsmell 7 November 2015 12: 23
        +5
        In this article I did not give out any extra information, the intelligence of the Russian Federation knows and sees everything. The article is intended for aviation enthusiasts and those interested in the context of war.


        Hohlobloger, like, calms himself? laughing
    2. NIKNN
      NIKNN 7 November 2015 11: 04
      +6
      Dmitry (3) RU Today, 07:14

      and why are you telling us this!

      What are you reading for? And you probably write your super-expert koment for quantity, you deserve the title of careerist methods. what
  3. PlotnikoffDD
    PlotnikoffDD 7 November 2015 07: 17
    +5
    And it's all??? The strongest air forces of the strongest army in Europe?))
    1. Good me
      Good me 7 November 2015 08: 39
      13
      Quote: PlotnikoffDD
      And it's all??? The strongest air forces of the strongest army in Europe?))


      All, not all, but "sweat" over this, someone will have to.

      Moreover, in comparison with the 2014 year, the total number of aircraft has grown.

      True, the power of the air defense of the militia has grown both qualitatively and quantitatively repeat
  4. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 7 November 2015 07: 27
    +5
    You need to beat the last.
  5. Rigla
    Rigla 7 November 2015 07: 30
    +5
    Nitsche. We have more needles soldier
    1. Altona
      Altona 7 November 2015 15: 36
      +3
      Quote: Rigla
      Nitsche. We have more needles

      ---------------------
      ZUSHKI in this case, the instrument is larger than the manual MANPADS, MANPADS may not exist or it may not work ... But the anti-aircraft gun always works ... And this tool is more universal ...
    2. Petrol
      Petrol 9 November 2015 12: 39
      -1
      and where does your needles
      drying was brought down by cash property, which was dug up in warehouses and in the SBU
  6. spech
    spech 7 November 2015 07: 39
    -7
    In this article, I did not give out any unnecessary information; Russian intelligence knows and sees everything.

    Svidomo article for Svidomo laughing
  7. Myth
    Myth 7 November 2015 07: 57
    +2
    Well, I knew everything I knew laughing
  8. kenig1
    kenig1 7 November 2015 08: 02
    +5
    From the film "Gentlemen of Fortune" "You are a Hamburg rooster", not an airplane (about coloring)
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 November 2015 08: 03
    +7
    A photo of the living appeared a week ago.

    Any board number can be drawn. This is not proof that it was the aircraft that was considered "possibly badly damaged or lost."
  10. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 7 November 2015 08: 53
    +4
    Board numbers are sometimes changed.
  11. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 7 November 2015 08: 59
    +4
    Su-25 attack aircraft of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - modern composition
    1. killganoff
      killganoff 7 November 2015 10: 08
      +5
      Yes, this silt could bury almost the entire assault aircraft with one "sweep" of its wing.
    2. Absurdidat
      Absurdidat 7 November 2015 11: 46
      +8
      Beautifully passed!
    3. slaw14
      slaw14 7 November 2015 14: 03
      +2
      IL-76 does not fall. It will be necessary to take off without a pilot.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 7 November 2015 21: 40
        +1
        Quote: slaw14
        IL-76 does not fall. It will be necessary to take off without a pilot.

        And what is their IL-76 special?
        For such statements, one must always remember the story, at least ............
  12. evil partisan
    evil partisan 7 November 2015 09: 06
    30
    During the war in the Donbass there was not a single (!!) flight of Ukrainian pilots to Russian territory. From this I conclude that the entire flight personnel of the Ukrainian Air Force fully supports the actions of their commander in chief and government .... And during the Second World War, the first flight of the Luftwaffe pilot to our side took place almost on the very first day after the outbreak of war ...
    1. zennon
      zennon 7 November 2015 12: 08
      12
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      During the war in the Donbass there was not a single (!!) flight of Ukrainian pilots to Russian territory.

      The flying officers are people in age. Almost certainly there is a family. You can’t take your wife and children into the cab. He flew over. How can a family live in Cochland? ..
      1. German Titov
        German Titov 7 November 2015 19: 59
        +7
        I talked to one "techie" from Uzin (near Kiev), he told me that when the "strategists" were raided for metal, several planes (the squadron said) - took off and flew away "for the ribbon." The families then moved. Then, "for the glory of Ukraine" and the treaties with the United States, "the rest of the planes and runways were cut. Those who managed to get to the trough fed themselves" right away "- (forgive my" Minsk dialect ").
        1. not main
          not main 7 November 2015 20: 55
          +3
          Quote: German Titov
          I talked to one "techie" from Uzin (near Kiev), he told me that when the "strategists" were raided for metal, several planes (the squadron said) - took off and flew away "for the ribbon." The families then moved. Then, "for the glory of Ukraine" and the treaties with the United States, "the rest of the planes and runways were cut. Those who managed to get to the trough fed themselves" right away "- (forgive my" Minsk dialect ").

          Firstly, not strategists, but Su-24. Secondly, not a squadron, but 6 sides, and it was in the 91st! And the banner was taken out by car!
      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 8 November 2015 00: 56
        +1
        Quote: zennon
        The flying officers are people in age. Almost certainly there is a family. You can’t take your wife and children into the cab. He flew over. How can a family live in Cochland? ..

        Correctly noticed - for sure the SBU conducts a separate briefing ..
      3. Megatron
        Megatron 8 November 2015 02: 39
        +1
        Julius mamchur - have you heard of this? They’re like everything there. With bare hands I would have crushed.
  13. sabakina
    sabakina 7 November 2015 09: 11
    +7
    Let's say there are planes and their number has increased. But the plane doesn't fly by itself. You need at least a good pilot who can do more than just take off and land.
    1. komendant 64
      komendant 64 7 November 2015 10: 31
      18
      The problem with the pilots is solved simply. During the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, Azerbaijanis actively recruited retirees as retired and retired workers. And there were such. They paid them for each flight. If anyone remembers, one of these vultures - the Russian (!) - was shot down by the Armenians and the interrogation frames were shown on TV.
      Pilots - Ukrainians in the USSR Armed Forces were enough, technicians - every third, if not the second (Vasilkovsky VATU, Kiev VVAIU, Kharkov VVAIU, Kharkov VVAIURE). Do you think that among them there are few Svidomo guys?
      Another issue is the restoration of aviation equipment. The resource of the engine and chassis cannot be extended indefinitely. In the absence of "donor" aircraft, this two-squadron ShAP will not last long. Well, if the storage bases have not been cut into metal, the restoration goes on once or twice under the conditions of a heat-and-power unit, no ARPs are needed.
      1. family tree
        family tree 7 November 2015 12: 47
        +9
        Quote: komendant 64
        The problem with the pilots is solved simply. During the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, Azerbaijanis actively recruited pensioners as mercenaries -

        With the 90s, do not equal the present, there taxied survival, the army on the shoulders, almost a crime, and the motherland with a boot in the face, and the people who are silly what , survived, praise God, to those who endured, a bow to the lowly, to their wishers who had not abandoned, doubly.
        And with this broken God, the judge, we are also guilty of that.
        Ah, the Slavs, Finno-Ugrians, Turks, Dolgans, Tuvans, Altai, Khakass, Shors, who else what Cho do each other recourse , to drown these Tin islands, because those who have nothing to do with it will drown, but these will crawl out, and again, they will interfere with life. Not, it’s necessary to point, all over the globe, and in court, each, not according to constitutions, but according to truth and conscience, dreams, however request
        1. Nikotin13
          Nikotin13 8 November 2015 00: 05
          +1
          you have good dreams, perepilka ... and not one you so dream wink
  14. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 7 November 2015 09: 14
    +4
    Well, the author did not lie, but only submitted information from "a different angle of view": after all, what they are not killed, although initially it was said about a large number of aircraft in storage bases! To draw other numbers is a question not even for the TEC, but for a Tajik janitor, especially if there is a stencil, and talking about the successful "restoration" of broken equipment is to "support one's own pants and puff out cheeks, which is usual for" Svidomo! " his number) "down to earth" and restored in Lugansk, no one observed in these "tales of grandfather Panas"?
  15. Horly
    Horly 7 November 2015 09: 38
    11
    Respect to the author - an objective review showing the facts. Unlike yurasum and ishchenok, and others like Rogers, broadcasting all kinds of crazy analytics about the end of the hohlyak army ... And the comments show a general level of misunderstanding of the objective processes - with this approach of the Russian Federation, the Ukrainian army will not fall apart - we ourselves give money for it the content of the capitalization of banks, then discounts on gas.
    1. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 9 November 2015 16: 17
      0
      Quote: Horly
      . Unlike Yurasum and the seeker, and others like Rogers with him, broadcasting all kinds of delusional analytics about the end of the Khokhlyat army ...

      Truth? Tell me, ukrobrat, when did URAsum make a mistake in the possibilities of ukrovermaht? Well, at least once? In winter, someone sang about the APU saying that they had regained their strength and had a 3-4-fold advantage, that Debaltseve was a bridgehead and all that. What did Yura write then? That the APU can’t advance and will run at the very first failures. What happened? The Armed Forces surrendered in a few weeks the fortifications which they built several months. So ukrobrat avenging yourself further about the APU.
      By the way, where was at least one flyer during the DeBaltz boiler? Did your pants dry?
  16. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 7 November 2015 10: 31
    +3
    The armies of Ukraine made it clear that no one would fly over Donbas. Actually over the east without a flight zone. I think that this should be announced officially. Nobody will let fly attack aircraft and Mi24 anyway.
    1. Good me
      Good me 7 November 2015 13: 34
      +4
      Quote: Zaurbek
      The armies of Ukraine made it clear that no one would fly over Donbas. Actually over the east without a flight zone. I think that this should be announced officially. Nobody will let fly attack aircraft and Mi24 anyway.


      Will not give. yes

      But they will try, all the same. Because they realize that if they don’t fly in the Donbass, in the last attempt at revenge, AT ALL, they will NOT fly anywhere and NEVER ...
      1. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 9 November 2015 16: 20
        -1
        Quote: Good Me
        Will not give.

        But they will try, all the same. Because they realize that if they don’t fly in the Donbass, in the last attempt at revenge, AT ALL, they will NOT fly anywhere and NEVER ...

        They won’t even try. In Debali it was so, it will continue to be so. And about 27 flying it’s a hundred percent race.
  17. xomaNN
    xomaNN 7 November 2015 10: 45
    +3
    If all the photos are fresh, then the number of Su-25s actually shot down in LDNR clearly differs from the declared republics. Infoyna in action.

    However, during this time, the focal air defense of the LDNR has already appeared up to the echelon of 8-10 thousand meters. bully
    1. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 9 November 2015 16: 21
      0
      All shot down SU confirmed photos and video materials. And here only numbers and rasskraskoi no more.
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 November 2015 10: 50
    +9
    The air regiment must fly - this is the first thing. Bombing and shooting at firing ranges is the second thing. All this is an expensive pleasure, the maintenance of an air regiment in combat readiness with a normal raid is, probably, like a land division of constant readiness. Are there such pennies? And in Russia "Verba" flourished. With reach in height a kilometer more "Needle". Storming from such heights is useless, there is no place for dill to take high-precision aviation weapons, it remains to "throw" around the cities without aim. But the videoconferencing will have to stop. Hard. Therefore, they will not fly. And they will not bomb. They want to live.
    1. komendant 64
      komendant 64 7 November 2015 12: 07
      13
      Let me disagree with you. The 90s proved the opposite. In conditions of chronic fuel shortage in the front-line aviation regiments (I won’t tell about the rest), a limited number of pilots flew. Young did not fly at all. And nothing survived! Pilot flight skills are restored very quickly. Ever since school times, the schedule of the dependence of flying skills on the break time in flight work has been remembered. If up to 2 months the graph has the form of an exponential curve, then it goes on to a straight horizontal line. That is, these limited skills remain constant after 2 months, and after six months.
      Therefore, there is no need for hatred; it is better to overestimate the capabilities of the enemy than to underestimate them.
    2. revnagan
      revnagan 7 November 2015 14: 45
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      But this will have to stop the videoconferencing.

      Nizzya.This is already an open interference, which "the entire civilized world" will regard as Russia's aggression. And there is no need for Syria, the current head of state has officially asked for help. So the only hope is for weapons "captured in the warehouses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine."
  19. aba
    aba 7 November 2015 11: 29
    +3
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    And they will not bomb. They will want to live.

    Well if so. Although there are many people who put the "golden calf" above all else.
  20. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 7 November 2015 12: 24
    +4
    What's so surprising? The United States stands behind Svidomo now, with all its resources, it is not surprising that money was found to restore aviation. For fun, the Yankees can Svidomo and throw their planes, from the gentleman’s shoulder, What can’t you do, if only to ruin Russia ...
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 8 November 2015 08: 24
      +1
      The US stands for "Svidomo", they stand for Al-Qaeda and for ISIS! So what did they start to openly fight against the Russian Aerospace Forces? Yeah, now, they just "change their shoes" and start the Third World War, but they need it !? Here is to shout to the whole world, "puff out" cheeks, yes, but what next? And how will it be different in the sky of Donbass, and never at all, especially not 2014 and the West is not very willing to show "unity", and they are already tired of Ukraine "worse than a bitter radish"! But from the USA they can "throw" from the "master's table" a little of any "air junk" and do not need to spend money on recycling, just like in the story with the delivery of 200 used "jeeps"! As my good friend from Ukraine used to say: "... B / H bread is B / C, or rather shit ..."!
  21. mvg
    mvg 7 November 2015 14: 24
    +7
    As I understand it, the pilots are professional military men. This is not a "Right Sector" recruited in a pre-trial detention center. Most of them were born and studied in the USSR. He can only think that the preparation of dill is weak. These are the same Slavic brothers who, together with us, won the Second World War, fought in Koerei and Vietnam. Underestimating the enemy is piz..etz.
    After the withdrawal of the ZGV, the most combat-ready troops of the USSR (second echelon), the most delicious stocks of equipment and warehouses remained in Western Ukraine .. With the financing of the West, plus the Ukrainians have really considerable experience in aircraft construction (remember where the ANs were produced), and the Tiflis the plant is directly related to "Rooks". So everything is in their hands.
    Correctly said above that "a year and a half of defeats teach something), but they are not such fools so as not to learn. Look, even the little arapies get something from the wars with Israel."
    PS: I feel, we remember UkroVVS. Bad word. Unfortunately, the lunar landscape of Donetsk is a reality.
  22. neo1200
    neo1200 7 November 2015 14: 41
    +3
    I do not believe in sources from a live magazine. Too somehow they are not reliable
  23. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 7 November 2015 15: 42
    0
    I won’t be surprised if in 10-15 years the decommissioned A-10s will be transferred to them. We need one for the museum.
  24. MAKK75
    MAKK75 7 November 2015 15: 44
    +2
    The truce will end and this will not remain (
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 7 November 2015 18: 48
      +2
      The truce will end and all these Dryings will be thrashing all over the territory of the LPR and the DPR - they can destroy a lot.
  25. cniza
    cniza 7 November 2015 17: 01
    +5
    Quote: perm23
    If you don’t finish off the enemy right away, then he will prepare and hit again - an axiom.



    You are very right, but we don’t know too much, a big game is going on.
  26. Приговор
    Приговор 7 November 2015 18: 18
    +3
    Guys, what will be a big war is probably no longer a secret. The place of the battle is also already known. Ukraine. South. Perhaps the North. Ukrainians are assigned the role of cannon fodder and the territory where the entire arsenal of modern weapons will be used. Not excluding nuclear and chemical. The only chance to prevent this war is to strike earlier. While they are not ready. In 2-4 years, it will be too late.
    1. Alexy
      Alexy 7 November 2015 19: 01
      +5
      Oh well. Tomorrow and begin.
  27. garik77
    garik77 7 November 2015 19: 23
    +1
    Quote: komendant 64
    The problem with the pilots is solved simply. During the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh, Azerbaijanis actively recruited retirees as retired and retired workers. And there were such. They paid them for each flight. If anyone remembers, one of these vultures - the Russian (!) - was shot down by the Armenians and the interrogation frames were shown on TV.
    Pilots - Ukrainians in the USSR Armed Forces were enough, technicians - every third, if not the second (Vasilkovsky VATU, Kiev VVAIU, Kharkov VVAIU, Kharkov VVAIURE). Do you think that among them there are few Svidomo guys?

    More than 20 years have passed since the Karabakh war; those retired pilots have long turned into deceased pilots or quite ancient old men. Since then no one has trained pilots on the scale of the Soviet Union. So it’s foolish to count on mercenaries of this kind on the part of Ukrainians.
  28. shans2
    shans2 7 November 2015 19: 25
    +2
    The Su-25 fell much more, it was the most mundane plane in LNR)), you would have looked for losses, they are just wild at the APU flyers. Tymchuk propaganda is simply such that everything that the militia did not show in the form of cracklings is not shot down)
  29. red-dog2
    red-dog2 7 November 2015 20: 34
    +1
    But nothing. Ukrainians are not quite mired in laziness and spit. work slowly! you look, someday they will show, God forbid, Kuzkin’s mother Donbass! need to slowly throw air defense militias toss)
  30. Vitail
    Vitail 8 November 2015 13: 21
    0
    It would be nice to send armor to the Donbass, and the TORs will not be superfluous
  31. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 8 November 2015 19: 59
    0
    Since they started talking about this in the press, it means that everyone at Voentorg already knows and I think the answer will be found quickly.
  32. Wolka
    Wolka 9 November 2015 05: 34
    0
    Beautiful, but LDNR must fight for it ...
  33. ermolai
    ermolai 9 November 2015 07: 34
    0
    Quote: Sentence
    Guys, what will be a big war is probably no longer a secret. The place of the battle is also already known. Ukraine. South. Maybe,

    you’re doing something terrible, that the war is going on and in BV and Europe they are preparing for the slaughter, and in ukraine they are fooling with poker, the Chinese are teasing about that, but BIG and on the outskirts? it somehow does not fit. they have enough years to begin to move their brains.
  34. asdasdz
    asdasdz 11 November 2015 20: 29
    0
    So in the end, how many planes in Ukraine can bring back to life? How much more is in reserve?
  35. Vitas
    Vitas 13 November 2015 20: 55
    0
    Su-25M1 b / n 07 - flew off. Crashed on November 11, near the village of Petro-Mikhailovka (Zaporozhye)
  36. Denis 123
    Denis 123 19 November 2015 12: 48
    0
    The article is good. But the question is not that. Why return?
    For the Shell, the number of attack aircraft does not matter. Because rockets and radar are safely multiplied by 0. For normal air defense. It is armed with air defense systems. The number of attack aircraft also does not matter. Therefore, no matter how much. If the opposite side deliver air defense systems. Attack aircraft will fly only over their own airdrome.
    Here you need a su-24,34. F-15E, Eurofighter, Gripen, etc. Therefore, everything will be like in the Donbass. Where they will not be needed.
    As for aviation. She was not Ukrainian but Soviet. The inability to maintain and maintain everything at the proper level led to decay.
    This is like a inherited large house. Which requires proper care and payment. If you earn 1 million a month and to hell with it.
    And if like everyone else?
  37. HELIX
    HELIX 18 June 2016 16: 38
    0
    Thank you for the article, and after all, these guys from one cadet cup sipped from ours, damn it !!