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French MP: I am a little surprised at the dismissal from the post at the PACE because of the trip to Crimea

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French MP Tieri Mariani, who led a delegation of French deputies who visited the Crimea peninsula in July, said he was a little surprised by his removal from the PACE post, as well as from the vice-president of the European People’s Party "at the request of the Ukrainian delegation."



“I can say that I am a little surprised, because, it seems to me, (that to make such a decision) five months later is a bit strange. Secondly, I would say that I find it absolutely stupid and absolutely counterproductive, the only response is that it makes me come faster (to the Crimea), ”the newspaper quoted him as saying "Sight".

The parliamentarian noted that “he was very surprised, as in usual conditions the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe should serve as a place of dialogue, and not a place where, I would say, sentences are passed.”

“But I note that in reality, if we have a different point of view, then immediately we are convicted. This is not what I expect from the assembly, which calls itself "democratic", but it's not scary, ”added Mariani.

In addition, in his opinion, the European authorities do not have enough independence from the influence of the “big neighbor on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean,” so now, against the background of sanctions and the lack of dialogue with Moscow, the European Union is moving further away from Russia.

"And in reality, we will not be deceived, everyone loses," the deputy concluded.
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  1. avvg
    avvg 2 November 2015 07: 32
    +32
    Here it is, European democracy in all its glory!
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 2 November 2015 07: 40
      +8
      lyrics by Nautilus Pompilius:

      There is always one truth -
      That said Pharaoh
      He was very smart.
      And for this he was called Tutankhamun.

      And the French deputy Thierry Mariani, the milkman.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 2 November 2015 07: 45
        +25
        French MP: I am a little surprised at the dismissal from the post at the PACE because of the trip to Crimea
        Yesterday Kiselev in his program voiced a cool idea. Its essence is that after the collapse of the USSR, the West and I exchanged places in terms of human rights and freedoms, religious and democratic freedoms of citizens. But the paradox is so.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 2 November 2015 07: 59
          +4
          Quote: Observer2014
          Its essence is that after the collapse of the USSR, the West and I changed places in terms of human rights and freedoms, religious and democratic freedoms of citizens. But the paradox is so.

          It may sound paradoxical - we now defend democracy and punish obscurantism.
          1. Misha Honest
            Misha Honest 2 November 2015 08: 05
            +2
            I am a little surprised at the dismissal from the post at PACE due to a trip to the Crimea

            Naive French guy! lol
            1. Vladimir 1964
              Vladimir 1964 2 November 2015 12: 16
              +1
              Quote: Misha Honest
              Naive French guy!


              Misha, however, you cannot deny objectivity to this "French guy".

              "And in reality, we will not be deceived, everyone loses," the deputy concluded.


              How t think so, colleague. hi
              1. crazyrom
                crazyrom 2 November 2015 22: 16
                0
                He probably thought they would give him a prize for spreading the truth, but it turns out.
        2. Sergey S.
          Sergey S. 2 November 2015 08: 27
          +2
          Quote: Observer2014
          after the collapse of the USSR, the West and I changed places in terms of human rights and freedoms, religious and democratic freedoms of citizens. But the paradox is true.

          The paradox is that taking a step back, we were ahead of the rest!
          In fact, until 1991 we were also ahead, including in terms of real freedoms of citizens, but the west did not see us ...
          Now we are closer, the comparisons have become more correct, and here is the result!

          At the same time, we lost good free medical care, equalization of opportunities to purchase vital products, free education in a normal way, industry ....
          We bought girls along the roads, trading in stalls, singed vodka, and endless travel agencies with intrusive service.
          1. Poppy
            Poppy 2 November 2015 09: 12
            +1
            absolutely true - we were always ahead of them in terms of freedom
        3. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 2 November 2015 08: 52
          +2
          The parliamentarian noted that “I’m very surprised, as in ordinary conditions the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe should serve place of dialogueand not a place where, I would say, sentences are being handed down».

          Here is the definition of the PACE function (or whatever?) Today by the European (now former) parliamentarian.
        4. Poppy
          Poppy 2 November 2015 09: 11
          0
          this is not quite a true idea for you: we were always ahead of them in terms of freedoms, it’s just now that it has become brighter
          After all, Western countries are real totalitarianism according to its classical definition - complete state control over the population - this is through credit cards and cameras on the streets and everywhere, everywhere, and through the social security number and neighbors knocking on each other and so on and so forth.
          in our country, there was never total control, there were no single bases
    2. Altona
      Altona 2 November 2015 08: 05
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      Here it is, European democracy in all its glory!

      -------------------
      Democracy is not for everyone, for everyone is the propaganda and fulfillment of the general line of Washington ...
    3. Finches
      Finches 2 November 2015 08: 18
      0
      Thierry Mariani is a victim of American political repression!
      France, official circles, once again silently swallow ... And the French want someone to respect them in this world !? The North American colony, the same as the colony Ukraine, only pathos more!
    4. marlin1203
      marlin1203 2 November 2015 10: 21
      0
      Surprised, not surprised, but punished. The rest, who clings to the chairs, are now afraid to go. Such is European tolerance ...
  2. SAM 5
    SAM 5 2 November 2015 07: 33
    +11
    "At the request of the Ukrainian delegation."

    Read: "By decision of the US State Department"
    1. edge
      edge 2 November 2015 07: 47
      0
      Quote: SAM 5
      Read: "By decision of the US State Department"

      blowing into the pipes of the troubadour good
    2. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 2 November 2015 09: 00
      0
      Quote: SAM 5
      "At the request of the Ukrainian delegation."

      Read: "By decision of the US State Department"

      US Ambassador to Russia John Tefft said that if the Minsk agreements are implemented, Washington is ready to lift part of the sanctions from Russia, but it will not cancel all, as long as Crimea remains Russian.
  3. Wolka
    Wolka 2 November 2015 07: 34
    +4
    Well, finally, the Frenchman realized that the notorious PACE is a "washing machine" for "washing someone else's dirty laundry", but in no way for solving European problems ...
  4. Stinger
    Stinger 2 November 2015 07: 35
    +3
    The parliamentarian noted that “he was very surprised, as in usual conditions the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe should serve as a place of dialogue, and not a place where, I would say, sentences are passed.”

    It finally came. Democracy is a delicate matter. Especially when the Americans take it.
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 2 November 2015 07: 38
    +1
    “But I note that in reality, if we have a different point of view, we are immediately condemned. This is not what I expect from an assembly that calls itself “democratic”


    Get used to the European heh heh of solidarity ... most likely the Anglo-Saxons ruling in the PACE put pressure on the leadership of this organization ...

    but this fact itself clearly shows that there is no democracy in Europe, but there are only WASHINGTON installations that all states in the EU are obliged to carry out.
  6. Dezinto
    Dezinto 2 November 2015 07: 38
    +9
    "A little surprised" ..... :)

    So parliamentarians, you are not allowed to be everywhere!
  7. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 2 November 2015 07: 43
    +3
    He knew what he was doing when visiting the Crimea. More to France and the West as a whole of such politicians.
  8. Zomanus
    Zomanus 2 November 2015 07: 44
    +2
    Democracy is a democracy, but one should not get out of the general course.
    And what general course in PACE, at the expense of Russia, I think it’s not worth explaining ...
  9. noWAR
    noWAR 2 November 2015 07: 46
    +3
    Another Western politician will now look with open eyes at their vaunted democracy, I hope for a snowball in the future.
  10. Darkoff
    Darkoff 2 November 2015 07: 48
    +2
    Another US strike on Europe.
    An extra argument in favor of right-wing and far-right opposition forces.
    Against the background of such democracy, fascism may seem justified.
  11. BOB044
    BOB044 2 November 2015 07: 52
    +1
    French MP: I am a little surprised at the dismissal from the post at the PACE because of the trip to Crimea
    PACE has become a political prostitute paid by an overseas host.
  12. sl22277
    sl22277 2 November 2015 07: 55
    +1
    "Modern Inquisition" ..... The fact that this organization, PACE, has recently become a refuge for unscrupulous politicians, is already known to all sane people. Well, as for the visit of the Frenchman and the delegation to the Russian Crimea, it was the right step. Freedom and "Democracy" is becoming less and less in the EU, more and more methods of restriction, coercion and punishment, intimidation and so on .. Crimea is a part of Russia, what does "Ukroevry" have to do with it ?!
  13. iv-nord
    iv-nord 2 November 2015 07: 58
    +1
    Well, Ukraine is starting to dismiss European politicians. And all from PACE come to visit the Crimea on their way.
  14. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 2 November 2015 08: 14
    0
    Europe has become a DICTATURE, (but not of the proletariat), but a DICTATURE of the USA ... fool
  15. demo
    demo 2 November 2015 08: 16
    +2
    "In addition, in his opinion, the authorities of European countries lack independence from the influence of the" big neighbor on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean. "

    Mister deputy, you were mistaken.
    Not a "big" neighbor, but a "sick" neighbor.
    So rather.
    He was diagnosed with paranoia, delusions of grandeur, delusions of persecution, and a number of serious diseases that cannot be treated.
    The patient should be isolated in a closed medical institution.
  16. cniza
    cniza 2 November 2015 08: 21
    +3
    Quote: avvg
    Here it is, European democracy in all its glory!




    Well, they waited five months, gave him time, but he did not change his mind.
  17. GRIG
    GRIG 2 November 2015 09: 37
    +1
    It was not for the trip to Crimea that this deputy was "lustrated", but for what he saw / heard there and reported to the "civilized" world. Namely, the Crimeans do not consider themselves occupied at all, they are happy to return to Russia and are happy that they got rid of the silly ukrofashiks.
    Well this is what a blow to the image of the State Department ugroshavok. They do not like the truth about themselves.
  18. AlexSam
    AlexSam 2 November 2015 10: 31
    +1
    well, what, the normal reaction of a normal brow ... if that goes so, then half the world will move to Crimea))) and Silvio, and all the boxers and actors of the world, and just normal people) ...
  19. LPD17
    LPD17 2 November 2015 17: 01
    0
    But is not the time to recall ambassadors from European states.?
    They do not have national sovereignty !? They are ruled by anyone: masters from across the ocean, runaway Arabs, and even nudibranded jumpers from the outskirts.
    Why do the ambassadors eat away state funds in the colonial states? Yes, and send them! All Euro issues are decided directly through Washington. For there is no one to speak with in the geyrop.