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The National Interest: Foreboding for a potential confrontation between the US and China looms on the horizon

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Dave Majumdar, a military expert with The National Interest, spoke about three types of Chinese weapons that Washington needs to fear in the face of deteriorating relations with Beijing due to the situation in the South China Sea.




“As long as the United States continues to assert its right to move freely in the waters of the western part of the Pacific Ocean, a nasty premonition of a potential confrontation with China looms on the horizon,” he said, RIA "News".

According to Majumdar, in the event of a conflict, three types of Chinese armaments will play a key role: diesel-electric submarines, sea mines and surface combat ships.

The expert cited statistics from which it follows that since the Second World War, it was sea mines that most often damaged American ships in comparison with other types weapons. In particular, according to him, the most famous case is the serious damage that the multi-billion dollar cruiser USS Princeton received during the conflict in the Persian Gulf.

“China learned the lessons very well storieswhile the US Navy only recently began to try again to develop means of waging a mine war, ”he stressed.

In addition, according to Majumdar, Chinese diesel-electric submarines will be another serious problem for the United States in the South China Sea.

"DPL does not compare with nuclear submarines in speed, strength or for any other indicators, but they are incredibly quiet," - he stressed.

In addition, the expert recalled that when the American destroyer Lassen was passing near the Subi reef, he was accompanied by two Chinese surface ships at once - the Taizhou patrol ship and the Lanzhou squadron. Meanwhile, according to Majumdar, the American ship does not have weapons that could seriously damage the Chinese.

The analyst stressed that after the collapse of the USSR, the United States did not pay enough attention to the conduct of military operations at sea, and this would cost them dear if Chinese warships equipped with long-range anti-ship missiles were ordered to sink Lassen.
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  1. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 2 November 2015 07: 12 New
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    Since the collapse of the USSR, Americans have fought only with those who did not have serious weapons. And here, inspired by "successes" and unrequited actions, they are trying to rock the boat against a superpower that has nuclear (!) Weapons. In the event of a conflict, it will not seem enough to them (and not only to them). They act on the verge of a foul - but only out of inflated conceit and arrogance, but not out of love for risk and, most importantly, accurate calculation. I hope that the Chinese will have enough thinking skills in a metered manner (without crossing the permissible boundaries) to give them a brain. These "exceptional" ones got sick!
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 2 November 2015 07: 53 New
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      Quote: S_Baykala
      Act on the verge of a foul

      Americans will always make the right decision after they try everyone else. How do you like the words of Winston Churchill?
      Well, if on the topic, then for some reason it seems to me that nothing serious will happen, either from the United States or from China.
      Why do I think so? After the visit of Xi Jinping to England, and this show began, England and the United States like a thread with a needle, obviously the Chinese agreed on something with the Saxons. But why all this circus, with inflating cheeks, until I understand. That the Chinese, that the United States and the Angles, are still partners, so we are waiting for the development of events, or rather, waiting for what is hidden behind all this, or from which they distract attention.
      1. Rom14
        Rom14 2 November 2015 08: 16 New
        +4
        Chinese box ... All of them, those are still "partners" ..
      2. volot-voin
        volot-voin 2 November 2015 08: 40 New
        +5
        Quote: Sirocco
        But why all this circus, with inflating cheeks, until I understand. That the Chinese, that the United States and the Angles, are still partners, so we are waiting for the development of events, or rather, waiting for what is hidden behind all this, or from which they distract attention.

        I think the circus with puffing up cheeks, throwing ka..shkami, lining pigs and everything will be limited. There will be no full-scale war. It is not beneficial to both parties. And in this form, the confrontation between our partners is only beneficial for us.
      3. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 2 November 2015 09: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: Sirocco
        But why all this circus, with inflating cheeks, until I understand. That the Chinese, that the United States and the Angles, are still partners, so we are waiting for the development of events, or rather, waiting for what is hidden behind all this, or from which they distract attention.

        It seems that this is an inflating of the cheeks of the United States and China is demonstrated to a third party .....
        As you know, these islands are a disputed territory claimed by a number of countries in the region. There, either Vietnamese and Chinese demonstrate ships to each other, or Japanese and Chinese bicker, which in general does not exclude the occurrence of any kind of local conflict. And here the other day the USA and 8 countries of the region (excluding China) signed a trade union and therefore for the USA the conflict in the region poses a certain economic risk. That’s to exclude it, the United States moved its fleet there, which will play the role of a roof for trade union participants claiming islands like, everything is captured, only you do not meddle.
        From the point of view of international law, the United States did not violate anything - the territories are disputed (i.e., whose) and the ships can be there for any length of time. As well as China, it will continue to build its bulk islands and deploy its infrastructure on them, as also does not violate anything, he does not take himself the disputed territory, but creates it. The question of creating a 200-mile zone of belonging to China from the island being created, probably won’t work; they will find a bunch of arguments like not bedrock, not on the mainland shelf, etc.
        So fists will show each other another 10-20 years.
      4. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 2 November 2015 10: 04 New
        +3
        Why a circus? Well, for example, in order to leave BV.Mol with dignity, we are now very busy in another place ... and there to leave only concerns and ... Latvian units.
      5. veksha50
        veksha50 2 November 2015 10: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Sirocco
        what is hiding behind all this, or what distract attention.



        This is alarming ...
      6. g1v2
        g1v2 2 November 2015 11: 33 New
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        America itself will only climb when the outcome is clear. They have been preparing a great Asian war for a decade, which, as World War I, should strengthen the United States both economically and politically. On the one hand, India, Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan and Japan. The states are arming them in full swing. On the other - China, Pakistan, Bangladesh. Malaysia has not yet been decided. Plus, the United States hopes for our neutrality, as Vietnam and India are our old friends, unlike the PRC with whom we began to be friends only recently. Whoever wins, only mattresses will win. Asia will decline, and production will return west. And if the United States connects and helps squeeze weakened China, then write off trillion debts and impose indemnities on China. And only ours they spoil the highest picture constantly reconciling India, China and Vietnam and dragging them into the Brix, SCO, etc. Without the confrontation of one and a half billion Indians and the same number of normal Chinese war, the United States will not stir up, which means there will be provocations. I won’t be surprised if India or Vietnam are accused of recent explosions in the People's Republic of China, and the United States throws proof to the Chinese.
    2. Gorjelin
      Gorjelin 2 November 2015 07: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: S_Baykala
      I hope that the Chinese will have enough thinking skills in a metered manner (without crossing the permissible boundaries) to give them a brain. These "exceptional" ones got sick!


      The Chinese must impose sanctions against the United States, then the exceptional ones get fucked up, you can’t eat an iPhone.

      And no war will be needed. laughing
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 2 November 2015 09: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Gorjelin
        The Chinese must impose sanctions against the United States, then the exceptional ones get fucked up,

        In reality, the opposite is true. Western sanctions (similar to ours) against China will quickly destroy the Chinese economy, as It is fully exported, and about 60% is oriented to the West. And insurance in the form of resources in China (unlike us) is not. The West can easily transfer the main production from China to India, Pakistan, Malaysia, etc. So China is very vulnerable economically. All these unfounded statements about the supposedly inevitable confrontation do not stand up to criticism.
  2. SAM 5
    SAM 5 2 November 2015 07: 13 New
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    As the United States continues to claim freedom of movement in the western Pacific, a misgivings about a potential confrontation with China looms on the horizon.

    Too many rights are taken by the Indians. As it comes around, it will respond.
  3. pvv113
    pvv113 2 November 2015 07: 16 New
    +2
    According to Majumdar, in the event of a conflict, three types of Chinese weapons will play a key role: diesel-electric submarines (DPL), sea mines and surface warships

    China also has a fourth type of armament, which the Americans consider the main trump card of Russia on the world stage. It is about supplying Russian engines for Chinese ballistic missiles.
    In the USA, they found Putin's trump card, before which Syria and Ukraine fade

    http://u-f.ru/News/u386/2015/11/01/727891
  4. Wolka
    Wolka 2 November 2015 07: 17 New
    +3
    minefields good drinking from the foolish habit of the Yankees wandering in a strange sea
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 2 November 2015 07: 24 New
      +4
      It's a shame .. crying We seem to be the "main enemy" of overseas democracy .. laughing
      But seriously, this is another vyser, from this "jaundice" which many confuse with analytics hi
  5. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 2 November 2015 07: 23 New
    +2
    Oh, play striped, I feel. Well, people do not sit on the fifth point exactly, everything is looked for on her adventures. And he who seeks finds sooner or later. China is not the same whipping boy, it's time to understand this.
  6. vitya1945
    vitya1945 2 November 2015 07: 30 New
    +2
    No matter how bad it was, but I would give dearly so that the hunch would not deceive Mr. Majumdar.
  7. Same lech
    Same lech 2 November 2015 07: 31 New
    +1
    . China is not the same whipping boy, it's time to understand this.


    I would like to know the opinion of military experts on possible options for a military clash between the armed forces of China and the United States today ... what will be the alignment of forces and weapons and logistics.
  8. 31rus
    31rus 2 November 2015 07: 32 New
    +1
    And what is it, they got it and howled right away, they started to doubt, well done Chinese people, this is a policy without ratings, for that it’s effective
  9. Zomanus
    Zomanus 2 November 2015 07: 49 New
    +8
    The article is nonsense.
    China has a bunch of nuclear warheads in its arsenal.
    And a bunch of free people who can easily sacrifice.
    And if you hook it, then both Americans and Japanese and Taiwanese will rake ...
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 2 November 2015 07: 53 New
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      Quote: Zomanus
      Americans and Japanese and Taiwanese ...

      And our Far East ..
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 2 November 2015 10: 03 New
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        Quote: afdjhbn67
        And our Far East ..

        And nobody thinks about it. On the eve of World War II, we considered Germany almost a friend. They already fought directly with the Western world (although they were originally created against us), sharing with us pro-British Poland. What cost does this securitylessness cost us all?
        That's why you should not forget the lessons of history. I often mention the fact that the USSR, with the same communist system as in China, held a huge military force in the Far East. hi
  10. lablizn
    lablizn 2 November 2015 07: 50 New
    +2
    China doesn’t even have to fight, you just have to demand from America repayment of government debt!
    For a "mattress" it is worse than destroyers and submarines.
    Although, on the other hand, overseas hamsters can frown and do stupid things.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 2 November 2015 10: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: lablizn
      China doesn’t even have to fight, you just have to demand from America repayment of government debt!



      Hmm ... Consider this a declaration of war ... Who will pay this debt to them ...
  11. mpzss
    mpzss 2 November 2015 07: 51 New
    +2
    the Americans NEVER fought with a worthy enemy, even during the Second World War, Hitler considered them a SECONDARY goal and threw ALL of his most combat-ready units to the eastern front! that's why Americans are afraid of anything bigger than a slingshot! Yes, they have modern, excellent weapons and weapons, but they do not have the most important core in their souls that would support them from the inside in a difficult moment! and all these films that glorify their soldiers and military? for example: "to save an ordinary rayon" - in order to save an unknown living or already dead, an incomprehensible number of people die! "top gun! one pilot knocks down an uncountable number of Soviet MiGs ... but let them not eat! In short, they ALL LIE!"
  12. BOB044
    BOB044 2 November 2015 07: 55 New
    +1
    Maybe all the same, the United States rakes in full. hi
    1. Rom14
      Rom14 2 November 2015 08: 23 New
      +2
      No, this is one financial code, they can only be scratched. What is happening now is working for the public, and in the sight of Russia ...
  13. HAM
    HAM 2 November 2015 08: 17 New
    0
    I want only one thing: "I WASN'T FALSE OF HIS PRESENCIES!"
  14. VP
    VP 2 November 2015 08: 51 New
    +4
    What kind of mines?
    The operational area is near China, within the reach of its missile systems and aircraft. The Chinese can simply stumble quantitatively at the expense of more involved aviation, greater airfield capacity and less leverage.
    Those. stupidly and more aircraft, and the possible intensity of use is higher.
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 November 2015 09: 01 New
    +1
    misgivings about potential confrontation with China looms on the horizon

    And besides that, personally, I am plagued by "vague doubts" ("I.V. is changing his profession") that the Americans are ready for a military confrontation with China. Just after so many blunders in its foreign policy, the United States decided, ostensibly. show who is the boss. But apparently their analysts did a lousy job yet again.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 2 November 2015 10: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Americans are ready for military confrontation with China


      They’re not ready for anything ... wave one’s fist and talk one’s tongue, but joining a large-scale war far from Vietnam-Korea is a bit different ...

      Do not forget about the fifth Chinese column in the USA ... Despite the fact that Amer Chinese were born and live in the United States, they consider China their motherland ...

      And now there is no benefit to either side in a direct military conflict ... Everyone will have a hard time, and the economy will bark in both the USA and China ...
  16. ermolai
    ermolai 2 November 2015 09: 05 New
    0
    Quote: lablizn
    if you only demand that America pay off government debt!

    garbage, on account of the debt, the Chinese will drive a couple of three aircraft carriers, and a dozen of their superfoods are invisible worth 19 tons of gold each, and of the type calculated.
  17. Tektor
    Tektor 2 November 2015 11: 09 New
    0
    We just benefit from the real confrontation between China and the states, but we do not benefit from the victory of one of the parties. Hence the moral: it is necessary to help the weakest, exactly when he begins to "pass". To help furnish conditions for the division of islands and waters with Vietnam.
  18. LPD17
    LPD17 2 November 2015 11: 16 New
    0
    And exactly the Black Sea after WWII was well swept ????? Didn't the "rusty" but quite working "minemarinen" drown there somewhere and not "traversed"? ...
    A tin destroyer URO passed there, and accidentally closed "rusty" contacts ... And the main thing is to make surprised eyes and say, "Well, you have to, trawled, trawled, and he is just like our" Novorossiysk "..., -" Echo of war ".
    What if the mines for the armored battleship were more than enough .... then the destroyer URO ... and there would be nothing to identify?
  19. Leeder
    Leeder 2 November 2015 13: 04 New
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    Quote: ermolai
    garbage, on account of the debt, the Chinese will drive a couple of three aircraft carriers, and a dozen of their superfoods are invisible worth 19 tons of gold each, and of the type calculated.

    Something I did not notice for the Chinese idiocy in commercial matters. Fuck them this scrap? They can take only a few pieces of F-35 and F-22, and then, only for the study of technology.