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Is it time for female marines?

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Military accounting specialties of the marines and special forces should soon open up to women, provided that the head of the US Navy insists on this.

Due to the fact that the decision was made to allow women to take up combat specialties, US Secretary of the Navy Rei Mabus urged women in the military who could meet stringent standards to open all vacancies.

Officials of the Marine Corps will soon have to submit their recommendations, but Minister of the Navy Rei Mabus, to whom the marines are also subordinate, explained that he must decide on the opening of all military specialties for women and that he has not changed his point of view here.

“It’s my responsibility and I was very open,” Mabus said in an exclusive interview, “I see no reason for the postponement.”

Mabus said that the arms must maintain physical standards unchanged.

His call to open all military occupational specialties for women followed after a statement by the chief of staff of the naval forces, Admiral John Grinert, at the end of August that the fleet would not seek a postponement for its legendary units of the special forces of the Navy (sea lions).










All the branches of the army were to submit their requests for a postponement to Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter before October 1, but the Marine Corps did not send any signals whether it intends to do so. However, Mabus made it clear that by and large he made his choice.

“My understanding of how the process works is that I am the only one who requests the Ministry of Defense to postpone,” he said. “Now other opinions will be heard, the former Defense Minister Leon Panetta has built this path and if the Ministry of the Navy does not make a request for a postponement, then the military accounting specialties will be open for women.”











While Mabus is yet to be finally determined by the positions of the Marine Corps, the US Command of Special Operations Forces must make its verdict regarding the Command of Special Operations Forces of the US Marine Corps (included in its submission), as well as regarding the seal of the Navy. If the Special Operations Forces Command does not request a deferment, the special units of the Corps and Navy will open 1 January 2016 for women along with other specialties that were previously closed to them.

The top ranks of the marines kept silent about whether they were striving for a gender “revolution.” At the hearing on the approval of Joseph Dunford as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, he did not clarify whether there is already a solution to this issue.

“We looked at this issue very carefully,” he told the Senate Committee. - I expect that the data that we have carefully collected over the past year and a half will go to my desk in August – September. And I don’t intend to backtrack from the schedule approved by Minister Leon Panetta and General Dempsey as early as 2012. ”













According to a representative of General Dunford at the end of August, he is working to send his recommendations to Mabusu over the next few weeks.

However, General Dunford planned to make his recommendations regarding the participation of women in combat missions even before General Robert Neller took over the post of Commander of the United States Marine Corps 24 September 2015 of the year.

Materials used:
www.thebrigade.com
www.marinecorpstimes.com
www.wikipedia.org
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  1. apro
    apro 2 November 2015 06: 24 New
    +3
    Harsh girls, are Americans really so impoverished?
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 2 November 2015 08: 04 New
      +6
      Quote: apro
      Severe girls

      It will be hard for them, there is no maternity leave in the US Army.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 2 November 2015 08: 46 New
        +4
        It seems to me that this is a fake. At least, I read on the Western Military District, about the rules and regulations of life of the crews of aircraft carriers of the United States. So, not only for such tricks, but even for a kiss, you could lose a well-paid job. with a wolf ticket. Do not forget that in the United States there is and is rigidly enforced the law "On sexual harassment." a mess you can fly with a Wolf ticket.
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 2 November 2015 09: 18 New
          +2
          Quote: Amurets
          I think this is a fake.

          The US Army has a circular that obliges the soldier to provide time for breastfeeding. As they imagine it, I (apologize for taftology) can not imagine.
          And yet, yes, this is not a fake.
          The picture was taken by professional photographer Tara Ruby, who in the past served in the US Air Force, writes The Daily Mail. Upon learning that a comfortable nursing room with comfortable chairs and a bottle fridge recently opened at Fort Bliss military base in Texas, Tara decided to support nursing mother soldiers using a photograph.
          She posted the picture on Facebook on her page on September 10th. The photo also appeared in the Breastfeeding in Combat Boots group (“Feeding in Army Boots”). The post scored more than 16,5 thousand likes.
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 2 November 2015 09: 47 New
            +1
            Convinced! I did not know about these changes.
            1. GRAY
              GRAY 2 November 2015 10: 46 New
              +2
              Quote: Amurets
              Convinced! I did not know about these changes.

              In the Navy, it could be different; there’s nowhere to put children on the ship.
              1. Amurets
                Amurets 2 November 2015 11: 51 New
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                Yes. In that article, it was mainly about the life and life of the military personnel on the aircraft carrier group.
      2. avt
        avt 2 November 2015 08: 57 New
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        Quote: GRAY
        It will be hard for them, there is no maternity leave in the US Army.

        In vain you laugh! Here a platoon of such a marines will attack you, they will not shoot, but to death for ... Why say? Because until the last you will stand out of principle - the Russians don’t give up, I’ll die and all pereey .... I fuck laughingEven the most terrible under the People’s Commissar 100 grams.
      3. erg
        erg 2 November 2015 16: 54 New
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        But there is a uniform designed for pregnant women.
      4. Pimply
        Pimply 2 November 2015 18: 32 New
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        Quote: GRAY
        It will be hard for them, there is no maternity leave in the US Army.

        Actually there is. But not in that form and not as long as in Russia
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 2 November 2015 19: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          Actually there is.

          For 3 months at my own expense it is in civilian life. I suspect that the army 3 day.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 2 November 2015 23: 05 New
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            Quote: GRAY

            For 3 months at my own expense it is in civilian life. I suspect that the army 3 day.

            Unlikely
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 2 November 2015 08: 12 New
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      WE HAVE OUR HEROES !!!
      EVDOKIA GRAVES
      and for the Germans "FRAU BLACK DEATH"
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    4. dokusib
      dokusib 2 November 2015 08: 22 New
      +6
      According to statistics, almost as many men as women are subjected to domestic violence. Equality EPT ... smile
    5. Blondy
      Blondy 2 November 2015 08: 56 New
      +3
      Pictures, of course, are beautiful, and everyone knows about women with horses and burning huts.

      There have been several cases in recent history, on both sides, when the thermonuclear conflict did not happen, just because the men did not press a button. And if there were women sitting at the consoles, who through life are more disciplined and clearly follow the prescribed instructions than men? That's what you can think about.
      1. Max otto
        Max otto 2 November 2015 10: 35 New
        +1
        And in the last fot, Mademoiselle at number 132, wearing a helmet backwards dressed).
        This is not all right. Women in combat units should not be, they must be protected.
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 2 November 2015 16: 35 New
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        Quote: Blondy
        Blondy

        Even in our ZRDN there were many positions where women could serve, and they also served as signalmen, tablet players, and radar operators. But we never had women in the starting battery. It’s ironic to toss and turn heavy things, this is still the lot of men.
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 2 November 2015 16: 54 New
          +2
          It looks very bad with the soldiers in the states. From the beginning, they were allowed to serve as gays, then to transvestites, now women to the marines. I remember the wonderful Soviet film "Return Move". Also a woman, also in the Marine Corps, well, this is a movie, and I have always treated it with irony. Yes, there are female military specialties, well, there are telephone operators or secretaries, but this is insanity. Let them try to really fight, And so just amusing troops.
  2. unsermann
    unsermann 2 November 2015 06: 46 New
    +1
    These are no longer women ...
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 2 November 2015 08: 54 New
      +1
      These are Horses! They would have to give birth to children and take care of their families, and not do this dirty, hard work. Yes, and in fact they are not women, but creatures of the middle kind, unlike the girls of the Israeli army.
  3. Pamir48
    Pamir48 2 November 2015 06: 58 New
    +3
    A DEGNING NATION OF MUSIC THAT IS NOT crying
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  4. TARAS BULBA
    TARAS BULBA 2 November 2015 07: 53 New
    +3
    "If tomorrow is a war if tomorrow is on a campaign" ... however, our "Pepsi generation" male is not very eager to serve. An example is the Israeli army 3 years old guys 2 years old girls.
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 2 November 2015 07: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: TARAS BULBA
      An example is the Israeli army 3 years old guys 2 years old girls.

      They have no other choice - 13 million people, in Moscow more people live.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 2 November 2015 08: 29 New
        +1
        Look at VO. The Israeli army is against which it’s difficult to fight. And I watched a movie somehow, I don’t remember either the name or the authors of the movie. But the documentary is about Israel. They showed the girls of the Israeli army. I don’t know how now, but then they called only unmarried girls and they served only in non-combat units. If I'm wrong, let the guys from Israel correct me.
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 2 November 2015 13: 43 New
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        Where does 13 million come from? 8 million have a population. This number includes Israeli Arabs, Druze, Circassians, etc.
    2. IAlex
      IAlex 2 November 2015 12: 38 New
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      Our Department of Defense is also not eager to provide minimal training for limited fit. Incl. "zeal" is mutual ...
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 2 November 2015 22: 30 New
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      Quote: TARAS BULBA
      An example is the Israeli army 3 years old guys 2 years old girls.

      Our example
  5. ism_ek
    ism_ek 2 November 2015 08: 03 New
    -6
    At our institute of the Ministry of Emergency Situations (former firefighting school), several women's groups were recruited. The guys say that everyone "went in a circle", none of them refused. The leadership of the institute shudders awaits "replenishment" wink
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 2 November 2015 08: 34 New
      +5
      Quote: ism_ek
      The leadership of the institute shudders awaits "replenishment"

      Not far from me is the Academy of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, women's groups have been there for a long time and no "replenishment" has been observed. Say hello to your friend.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 2 November 2015 09: 04 New
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        I have a friend, a battalion commander in a border school. So he brought the girls for an internship. Well, at a meeting, over a glass of tea, we asked him how he commands such a unit? And he said: "One inconvenience - my wife is constantly jealous", and so problems much less.
        1. pv1005
          pv1005 2 November 2015 10: 34 New
          +4
          Quote: Amurets
          I have a friend, a battalion commander in a border school.


          There are no battalions in border schools. Not at all. As in the Border Guard. Well, it happened historically. hi
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 2 November 2015 12: 11 New
            0
            As he called his last identity, I call it. I grew up on the border. And our school overlooks China. And there was a police at the school and an outpost behind the school’s fence. Until now, the school named after Dzerzhinsky. It just did not go through the medical board in the border school and had to serve in other troops.
            1. pv1005
              pv1005 2 November 2015 12: 42 New
              +1
              Quote: Amurets
              As he called his last identity, I call it. I grew up on the border. And our school overlooks China. And there was a police at the school and an outpost behind the school’s fence. Until now, the school named after Dzerzhinsky. It just did not go through the medical board in the border school and had to serve in other troops.

              So you have no complaints. As they say, for what they bought for and sold. Just a little clarification was. hi
              1. Amurets
                Amurets 2 November 2015 13: 38 New
                +1
                Thank you for agreeing. I love and respect the border troops. But as they say, fate didn’t end up in the PV. Not lucky. But there was a benefit from communicating with the border guards. And they already knew the handling of weapons and other wisdom not only of the border service but also of the army service in general. Yes, and the Chinese did not allow them to relax at that time. I went into the army in May 1969. You understand that the smell of gunpowder on the border has not dissipated.
      2. ism_ek
        ism_ek 2 November 2015 11: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: GRAY
        Not far from me is the Academy of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, women's groups have been there for a long time and no "replenishment" has been observed.

        You look at beautiful "pictures". But in reality, not everything is so amazing. No one will tell a passer-by about violations of discipline. Here, as with "hazing", like an exemplary order in the unit, but as you drip deeper, what is happening in the barracks at night ...
      3. ism_ek
        ism_ek 4 November 2015 13: 25 New
        0
        No need to hang tags. I myself live next to the Ministry of Emergencies Academy. I see the cadets constantly. I also thought that everything was OK, until I ran into academy graduates at work. Power structures are not for women ....
  6. Same lech
    Same lech 2 November 2015 08: 05 New
    +1
    The military registration specialties of the Marine Corps and Special Forces should soon open for women,


    This is not the first and not the last attempt to use women in military units in large numbers, but the war in the Second World War clearly showed where and how women should be used in the army ... so I don’t see anything new here.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 2 November 2015 18: 39 New
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      This is not the first and not the last attempt to use women in military units in large numbers, but the war in the Second World War clearly showed where and how women should be used in the army ... so I don’t see anything new here.

      Is it possible in more detail? 8)
  7. kvs207
    kvs207 2 November 2015 10: 16 New
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    Quote: Amurets
    They would have children to give birth to a family to deal with, and not to do this dirty, hard work

    What they just don’t do, for the sake of American citizenship. laughing
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  10. IAlex
    IAlex 2 November 2015 12: 25 New
    +4
    Given the fact that all the women are grouped together and pulling their own for swinging rights in the collective, soon the entire US army will consist of some women who are unsatisfied with everything;)))))))))))

    In Israel, at least they try not to shove them in the units on the front line, but for the Yankees as usual for the Yankees ...

    By the way, you laugh in vain, women in a war are worse than men ... They are weaker because of what they are more cruel (because you can’t suppress the reflex of danger with reason), like noncombotants, including other women and children, as well as completely straightforward, as a result why they will not risk orders and show mercy and improvisation ...

    American animals know better than us who they need to recruit for atrocities, and this trend in principle confirms this conclusion ...
  11. nnz226
    nnz226 2 November 2015 12: 35 New
    +1
    It will be difficult for the aunts to fight (since the US Marines - "there is a plug in each barrel"). If at the training ground (in the air - not in a dash with a booming echo) from M-16 (or their analogs) they shoot in earplugs (photo in the article). And if there are no earplugs, will the battle end before it starts?
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 2 November 2015 18: 40 New
      0
      Quote: nnz226
      It will be difficult for the aunts to fight (since the US Marines - "there is a plug in each barrel"). If at the training ground (in the air - not in a dash with a booming echo) from M-16 (or their analogs) they shoot in earplugs (photo in the article). And if there are no earplugs, will the battle end before it starts?

      These are actually safety standards, buddy. We also used open earplugs at open test sites. Explain why?
  12. RPG_
    RPG_ 2 November 2015 12: 54 New
    +1
    Is it that they are struggling with unemployment?
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 2 November 2015 13: 48 New
      +1
      No, improve demography.
  13. Riv
    Riv 2 November 2015 13: 52 New
    +2
    Shorts, sneakers, training glasses ... Is that them, elite troops ??? Are butt-ups pushups a sign of elitism? I am ashamed to even imagine how they salute there.
    America has completely degraded.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 2 November 2015 18: 41 New
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      Quote: Riv
      Shorts, sneakers, training glasses ... Is that them, elite troops ??? Are butt-ups pushups a sign of elitism? I am ashamed to even imagine how they salute there.
      America has completely degraded.

      And what should be in training?
      1. Riv
        Riv 3 November 2015 04: 51 New
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        Well, like a military uniform, weapons, ammunition. And in glasses to climb walls - it means really taking risks with your eyes.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 3 November 2015 10: 29 New
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          Quote: Riv
          Well, like a military uniform, weapons, ammunition. And in glasses to climb walls - it means really taking risks with your eyes.

          Sorry, but smack nonsense. Be careful, she’s small, she can die. Different training formats - different form. This is also being introduced now in the Russian army if you are not in the know.
          Points - WTF? What are you talking about?
          1. Riv
            Riv 4 November 2015 14: 42 New
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            Formats? I understand ... This is such a tourist training. You look: they have even different sneakers. Is this the form? Oh yes ... it's the same format.
            By the way: why can't bearded women be seen in the pictures? It seems like it’s fashionable there.
  14. Wolka
    Wolka 2 November 2015 13: 58 New
    +1
    oh horror, not otherwise emancipated aunts ...
  15. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 2 November 2015 14: 09 New
    +1
    Will Soldier Jane 2 be filmed?
  16. Jan Ivanov
    Jan Ivanov 2 November 2015 15: 02 New
    +2
    Everything inside rebels against such a picture. There is something unhealthy about it.
  17. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 2 November 2015 15: 20 New
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    rave. Caesar’s Caesar’s, and locksmith ...
  18. alleksSalut4507
    alleksSalut4507 2 November 2015 19: 03 New
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    Quote: Blondy

    Blondy (2) Today, 08:56 ↑ ↓ New
    Pictures, of course, are beautiful, and everyone knows about women with horses and burning huts.

    There have been several cases in recent history, on both sides, when the thermonuclear conflict did not happen, just because the men did not press a button. And if there were women sitting at the consoles, who through life are more disciplined and clearly follow the prescribed instructions than men? That's what you can think about.

    Let ALL women have their own Button, with them. TO ALL OTHERS - NEVER, NO-FOR-ANYTHING - They should not be allowed. they are also so curious, they will start poking around "inadvertently". and then, on the peasants, everything will stand up.
  19. Evgeniy30
    Evgeniy30 2 November 2015 19: 07 New
    +1
    These are not women, these are bumpkins.
    I hope we don’t think of it. Women, stay women!
  20. marinier
    marinier 2 November 2015 19: 46 New
    +1
    Dobroe vrema sutok gospoda.
    Smet Vas zaverit, ne po naslushke ja javliat midl oficier-marinier.ego veli4estva koningin Netherland.V Plan fizik, ognev, podgotovkka russishe militeri na dobrij golova vishe usa, kanada, new-zeeland govnland etstrian, army hiheel goed.
  21. marinier
    marinier 2 November 2015 20: 04 New
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    Dobroe vrema sutok gospoda.
    Smet Vas zaverit, ne po naslushke ja javliat midl oficier-marinier.ego veli4estva koningin Netherland.V Plan fizik, ognev, podgotovkka russishe militeri na dobrij golova vishe usa, kanada, new-zeeland govnland etstrian, army hiheel goed.
  22. tracer
    tracer 2 November 2015 22: 18 New
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    So much for the Yankees ... who will die for their oil deposits ... Absolutely up to the lantern.
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  25. Riv
    Riv 3 November 2015 06: 01 New
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    Well, something like this, in short:
  26. rusich
    rusich 3 November 2015 21: 37 New
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    warrior is not a female affair but when a warrior becomes female