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Chief of artillery of the Airborne Forces: we have a weapon capable of firing foreign ammunition

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Marines have weaponscapable of firing foreign 120-mm ammunition, transmits RIA News words of the head of the missile troops and artillery of the Airborne Forces Alexei Kostritsa.


The prototype model 120-mm self-propelled gun on the chassis of the wheel (6х6) armored vehicle VPK-39373 "Wolf-3" (2013 g).

“One of the conditions for conducting combat is a limited amount of ammunition, opportunities for the delivery of ammunition to the rear of the enemy. The gun 2С9 has the ability to shoot mines of foreign-made caliber 120 millimeters, but the question is whether they will fall. If hostilities are conducted in the rear of the enemy and if it turns out that there are some 120-millimeter mines and mortars, of course, we can use them, ”the colonel said in an interview with the radio station Ekho Moskvy.

Kostritsa also noted that "due to the high cost of ammunition, gunners learn to use high-precision weapons, which can ensure the fulfillment of the task and the health of the calculation with one ammunition."

“Nothing is more precious than human life. If this one ammunition allows you to perform the task from the first shot and ensure the health of the calculation, then the task is completed, we learn to use precision-guided munitions, they are, but we would like more of them, but so far a limited number, ”said the colonel.

The prototype model 120-mm self-propelled gun on the wheel chassis (6х6) of the armored vehicle VPK-39373 "Wolf-3"
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 1 November 2015 10: 33 New
    +1
    This article is for specialists ..
    1. Sweles
      Sweles 1 November 2015 10: 37 New
      15
      Kostritsa also noted that "due to the high cost of ammunition, gunners learn to use high-precision weapons, which can ensure the fulfillment of the task and the health of the calculation with one ammunition."

      “Nothing is more precious than human life. If this one ammunition allows you to perform the task from the first shot and ensure the health of the calculation, then the task is completed, we learn to use precision-guided munitions, they are, but we would like more of them, but so far a limited number, ”said the colonel.


      "ammunition from the first shot is able to ensure the health of the crew"

      what is the passage, cicero lonely.
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 1 November 2015 10: 40 New
        +5
        It looks impressive
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 1 November 2015 10: 41 New
          10
          ... said the colonel in an interview with Ekho Moskvy radio station.
          For me "Echo of Moscow" = "Puk of Moscow".
          At first I thought: "Why, why is the chief of the missile forces and artillery of the Airborne Forces giving him an interview?"
          Then I thought: "Probably, so that" THEY "can see and understand our professionalism and universalism (like for every cunning ... we put on, surpass, win, spank!)
          1. Marxist
            Marxist 1 November 2015 10: 56 New
            -1
            Probably to "THEY"

            "They" - who is this ???
            The Echo Moskvy radio station is part of the Gazprom-Media holding.
            1. gluhar24
              gluhar24 1 November 2015 11: 13 New
              +7
              5 column in its purest form!
              1. crazyrom
                crazyrom 1 November 2015 18: 03 New
                +3
                weapons capable of firing foreign 120-mm ammunition

                Such an easy message, such as ready to capture and use trophies, so do not rock the boat!
            2. Baikonur
              Baikonur 1 November 2015 11: 16 New
              +1
              Hm! Well, let's call them a simple word - LIBERALS! And so - THEY-THESE-THEY!
              You can call them anything! They have a lot of name!
              (5 columns, DISSIDENTS, swearing Russia, Loving and eating from HERE, Raising the FUAGRA, and not Russian pies, ... etc. etc.!)
              Gazprom-media, ..., and, even above, - "ONI" (just not everyone (not everyone!) In Gazprom and others know about this!))
              Okay, lucidly explained?
              1. theadenter
                theadenter 1 November 2015 13: 12 New
                10
                Thanks to the Rain and the Echo of Moscow, the population of Russia is developing informational immunity to the stuffing of Western opponents of Russia.
                Therefore, under no circumstances (except for a wide public outcry) should they be closed, plugged, kicked out and subjected to political persecution.
                And interviews with such media allow the regulars of the resources to doubt the question - "Do liberal media press in Russia?"
          2. Altona
            Altona 1 November 2015 11: 51 New
            +2
            Quote: Baikonur
            Then I thought: "Probably, so that" THEY "can see and understand our professionalism and universalism (like for every cunning ... we put on, surpass, win, spank!)

            ------------------------
            We charge, shoot and reload ...
          3. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 2 November 2015 05: 12 New
            +2
            Quote: Baikonur
            At first I thought: "Why, why is the chief of the missile forces and artillery of the Airborne Forces giving him an interview?"
            Then I thought: "Probably, so that" THEY "can see and understand our professionalism and universalism (like for every cunning ... we put on, surpass, win, spank!)

            But I didn’t understand something. The prototype, of course, is pretty, but 2S9 120mm "three in one" - this is "Nona"! The thing, no doubt, is good, but it has been in service with the 1979 year and is constantly being modified. Why then revolutionary? What put on wheels?

            Maybe it's great news for "jackets" from "YEHU Moscow" that we have such a cool thing? Well, Kostritsa could surprise them ...
        2. Reducer
          Reducer 1 November 2015 11: 07 New
          +6
          Quote: bulvas
          It looks impressive

          It would look impressive in the army.
          Mockup created in 2013!
          The colonel gives an interview at the end of 2015 ... so what?
        3. i80186
          i80186 1 November 2015 11: 08 New
          +5
          Quote: bulvas
          It looks impressive

          Well, yes, only the picture is not that of the Airborne Forces. There "Nona-S". And the cannon-howitzer-mortar itself, yes, yes, that's right, is called 2A51. smile
          1. brr1
            brr1 1 November 2015 11: 50 New
            +2
            And the fact that in the picture it will not be able to fire direct fire with cumulative shells entering the b / c 2C9, and this is important for the airborne
        4. gjv
          gjv 1 November 2015 11: 31 New
          +6
          Quote: bulvas
          It looks impressive

          Advertising note and advertising photo. Kostritsa talked about a completely different weapon - the 2S9 "Nona".

          Here she is - "Nona" - can shoot foreign ammunition. For example, French mines RT-61.

          As well as high-explosive fragmentation PR-14, PRAB, PRPA (active-reactive), APCM (active-reactive) (France), MKE Mod 209 (Turkey), smooth-bore PEPA, PEPA-LP, M44 / 66 (France), cluster cumulative fragmentation ACED (France), MKE Mod 258 (Turkey), MAT-120 (Spain), lighting PRECLAIR (France), MKE Mod 236 (Turkey), flue MKE Mod 226, MKE Mod 250 (Turkey).
        5. Abakan
          Abakan 1 November 2015 12: 27 New
          -5
          her))) as if someone was attached from behind)))
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      4. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 1 November 2015 10: 42 New
        +6
        How should it ensure the health of the calculation ???
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 1 November 2015 10: 52 New
          17
          "ammunition from the first shot is able to ensure the health of the crew"
          I know this ammunition. It's a shampoo bubble on the morning of the first of January.
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          2. bolat19640303
            bolat19640303 1 November 2015 11: 00 New
            +9
            ... 2C9 gun has the ability to shoot mines of foreign manufacture caliber ...

            This is about self-propelled guns "Nona" and it has been known for a long time. And the photo is a new wheeled sample, possibly with the same capabilities. But the wheel drive for the ACS intended for the Airborne Forces is a controversial option.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 2 November 2015 05: 19 New
              +3
              Quote: bolat19640303
              But the wheel drive for self-propelled guns designed for the Airborne Forces is a controversial option.

              Absolutely! Still, the guys would not have enough to pull this wheeled thing out of the mud! No more worries. "Nona" was planted so that they pulled the tank! And on wheels - only on the road, I think so. If the landing troop always moved along the road, it would not be a landing troop, but motorized riflemen (with all due respect to the infantry).
          3. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 2 November 2015 05: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: guzik007
            "ammunition from the first shot is able to ensure the health of the crew"
            I know this ammunition. It's a shampoo bubble on the morning of the first of January.

            By the flyers, it’s necessary to get alcohol in the morning of January 1 ... laughing drinks
      5. WKS
        WKS 1 November 2015 11: 21 New
        +2
        Quote: Sveles
        "ammunition from the first shot is able to ensure the health of the crew"

        He apparently meant "the health of the crew", since the projectile is still not native ...
      6. gudgeon
        gudgeon 1 November 2015 11: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Sveles
        what is the passage, cicero lonely.

        Yes, you too, however ...
      7. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 1 November 2015 12: 27 New
        +1
        "Cicero" is. And what brought him to Echo? PR software?
      8. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 1 November 2015 12: 27 New
        0
        "Cicero" is. And what brought him to Echo? PR software?
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    3. Finches
      Finches 1 November 2015 10: 56 New
      +7
      I have one question for Comrade Colonel - why did he agree to give an interview to the nasty radio station "Echo of Moscow" ??? This bedbug spewing tons of hatred and bile, including the Russian Armed Forces, presenting its broadcast and website for the most vile traitors. .. Although I understand that the order came from above and the officer had to go to this cesspool - this is how Gazprom Media dilutes its national treacherous assets using connections in state structures ...
      1. Sagittarius YaNAO
        Sagittarius YaNAO 1 November 2015 11: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        I have one question for Comrade Colonel - why did he agree to give an interview to the nasty radio station "Echo of Moscow" ??? This bedbug spewing tons of hatred and bile, including the Russian Armed Forces, presenting its broadcast and website for the most vile traitors. ..

        Probably what would have reached the "partners" faster, and they will give instructions to their ISIS members to take the ammunition with them when retreating. (collected caravans) and it will be easier for ours with goals.
      2. 31R-US
        31R-US 1 November 2015 13: 14 New
        +6
        For me personally, "Echo of Moscow" is very useful, a kind of cheat sheet, if there are controversial moments where you yourself cannot determine who is right, you can read the comments on the "echo", choose the opposite position and everything falls into place belay
      3. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 2 November 2015 05: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        I have one question for Comrade Colonel - why did he agree to give an interview to the nasty radio station "Echo of Moscow" ??? This bedbug spewing tons of hatred and bile, including the Russian Armed Forces, presenting its broadcast and website for the most vile traitors. ..

        I would like to think that this is only a "pointer". And not from the Ministry of Defense, but from the party and government "jackets". Because if this is his private initiative No. then vague doubts begin to torment me ... But I don’t want to doubt the head of the missile forces and artillery of the airborne forces ...

        One "paratrooper" has already made us doubt ourselves (I mean "Pasha-Mercedes") ... I don't want such a shame anymore ...
    4. Foreman49
      Foreman49 1 November 2015 11: 48 New
      0
      In Syria, it is necessary to strengthen the disposal of old shells and decommissioned systems.
  2. venaya
    venaya 1 November 2015 10: 37 New
    +4
    “Nothing is dearer than human life. If this one ammunition allows you to complete the task from the first shot and ensure the health of the calculation,

    A slight increase in the cost of ammunition, significantly saves all other components of the cost of hitting a specific target. In addition, the use of wheeled vehicles can significantly increase the efficiency of the application, due to the high speed of movement.
    1. Teberii
      Teberii 1 November 2015 10: 40 New
      0
      A compact weapon for the Airborne Forces is what you need.
  3. hydrox
    hydrox 1 November 2015 10: 38 New
    +5
    Something I did not hear that such is put into service ...
    What side is VTB and health of calculation?
    And how is this polkash going to hit the enemy from ONE SHOT if you haven’t mentioned a word about the radar of the battlefield or the radar counter-firing?
    And what, the laws of network-centric warfare are no longer in force in the Airborne Forces?
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 2 November 2015 05: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: hydrox
      So what, the laws of network-centric warfare already in the Airborne Forces do not apply?

      No, they don’t act. Network-centric warfare was not just invented for the Airborne Forces. On the contrary, we were taught to act as autonomously as possible. And network-centric warfare is just interaction, unification into one space. That is, of course, the airborne forces also operate without Makhnovism, somewhere out there, at the level of global command and control, everything has been taken into account and counted. But at the level of company-battalion-regiment-brigade, roughly and simplistically, the airborne forces only need to be poked with a finger at the map.

      Of course, the military theorist is not great from me. Moreover, when I served, the concept of network-centric war only was invented (I read it on Wikipedia). But about autonomy, which, in my opinion, is the antagonist of network-centrism, this is true.
  4. Mercury
    Mercury 1 November 2015 10: 39 New
    +4
    This is enough for me for the private sector, and this .and go to the store and hunt the bear and the world’s neighbors
    need to find out whether they give on credit
  5. 34 region
    34 region 1 November 2015 10: 41 New
    +6
    So we plan to advance. And in Syria, it’s probably a good idea to break in. There is a stopudovo mass of NATO ammunition. And so let's save our charges. Not bad, not bad.
  6. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 1 November 2015 10: 41 New
    +3
    They will not be left without ammunition. yes
  7. figwam
    figwam 1 November 2015 10: 42 New
    +7
    we have a gun capable of firing foreign ammunition

    For the Balts this is the last warning)))
    1. Rader
      Rader 1 November 2015 14: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: figvam
      we have a gun capable of firing foreign ammunition

      For the Balts this is the last warning)))

      The main strategy of the Baltic states (according to their own words), when Russia attacks them, is a retreat! And to slow down the advance of Russian troops, after such news, the Baltic states will liquidate all ammunition depots on their territory! wassat laughing
  8. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 1 November 2015 10: 43 New
    +7
    It’s great that they created such a weapon, because you will not stockpile your ammunition when performing combat raids on the rear of the enemy.
  9. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 1 November 2015 10: 44 New
    +2
    Good equipment, a wolf-uniform, who said that this particular weapon will be used there?
  10. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 1 November 2015 10: 47 New
    +3
    In Syria, the very thing is to drive ISIS, run in and then put it into service.
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 1 November 2015 10: 47 New
    0
    Lugging a gun to the rear with the expectation that there you will find ammunition in the right quantity and suitable in caliber ........... something I did not understand, the meaning of this material
    1. Sagittarius YaNAO
      Sagittarius YaNAO 1 November 2015 11: 09 New
      -1
      Quote: APASUS
      Lugging a gun to the rear with the expectation that there you will find ammunition in the right quantity and suitable in caliber ........... something I did not understand, the meaning of this material

      Typewriter for sale. After all, the Airborne Forces are participating in a local operation and hoping that the necessary ammunition is found is unreasonable. With the best success, you can load an armored truck with your shells, and not drag a toy that may not be useful.
      Now, if the tools were interchanged, then yes. A shell was found, replaced the gun and attack. All the same, it’s easier to drag a gun with you.
  12. roskot
    roskot 1 November 2015 10: 50 New
    +2
    But it is better to have your own ammunition, rather than hoping that someone will leave us a present.
  13. tracer
    tracer 1 November 2015 10: 50 New
    +6
    Yesterday I was at the "Raevskoye" landfill near Novorossiysk. I haven't been there for a long time. He himself once served in the brigade. A huge number of changes. New equipment, a new field town, new boxes for equipment, barracks, warehouses, everything is new. And most importantly, what is new is the attitude to service. A friend's son serves there, he is very pleased with the new armored vehicles, says "Dad, we can now burn Abrams and Jaguars and butt on equal terms." And this is a very serious technique. The landing party now has something to oppose to a potential "partner".
  14. Bongo
    Bongo 1 November 2015 10: 55 New
    17
    Chief of artillery of the Airborne Forces: we have a weapon capable of firing foreign ammunition

    Also news to me, this weapon appeared in the Airborne Forces back in 1980. "Nona-S" (pictured) is capable of firing 120 mm mines of foreign production, the "news" was somewhat late.
    1. avt
      avt 1 November 2015 11: 09 New
      +9
      Quote: Bongo
      Also news to me, this weapon appeared in the Airborne Forces back in 1980. "Nona-S" (pictured) is capable of firing 120 mm mines of foreign production, the "news" was somewhat late.

      good If you really run into history, then this news has been late since the decision was made to put into service the mortars of 81mm and 120mm caliber in the USSR. Here the German 80mm in our 81mm could be stuck, and our 81 in their 80 .... wassat
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 November 2015 11: 18 New
      +9
      Quote: Bongo
      , the "news" was somewhat late.

      Come on, it's only 35 years old laughing
  15. gg.na
    gg.na 1 November 2015 11: 07 New
    +1
    I didn’t understand anything from this article sad. If we were to write an article then it would be intelligible!
    1. Manul
      Manul 1 November 2015 20: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: gg.na
      I didn’t understand anything from this article

      wink And you carefully read the comments. And about the news late, and about the resource, where it came from. This is not an article, but a news article. So, savor, what kind of bullshit on Echo of Moscow they say. For their regular echo listeners, this is the usual format of information, specificity is not important - the main thing is accents lol Let's wait, probably, and "Military acceptance" will tell, and the article will appear intelligible.
  16. 31rus
    31rus 1 November 2015 11: 09 New
    +3
    I agree with the wheeled vehicles for the airborne forces (in the above privacy model), it’s very controversial, it doesn’t swim, it doesn’t go far from the psaltery by maneuverability, the silhouette itself is taller and bigger, the same problem with tzm, new logistics, you need to think and experience before you blow what then statements
    1. uge.garik
      uge.garik 1 November 2015 12: 30 New
      -2
      So it’s for EU roads and state autobahns ... for zakardonya - that’s it!
  17. slavinsk
    slavinsk 1 November 2015 11: 10 New
    +3
    In the photo the car is beautiful.
  18. Arkan
    Arkan 1 November 2015 11: 11 New
    +2
    Chief of artillery of the Airborne Forces: we have a weapon capable of firing foreign ammunition


    It always has been, the 2S9 gun is the same forever young Nyura-Nona.
  19. tracer
    tracer 1 November 2015 11: 12 New
    +3
    Quote: gg.na
    I didn’t understand anything from this article. If to write an article then it would be intelligible

    It is necessary to read between the lines. The gun is new and beautiful on a wheelbase. And the fact that their standards can be used is a huge plus. That's all the news. Wheelbase option is not the best far away for the gun. The cart on the lawn can get stuck. Where the airborne climb is very important.
  20. Zomanus
    Zomanus 1 November 2015 11: 15 New
    +1
    Maybe the journalists didn’t convey this to us.
    Well, Nona is the tracks, the Wolf is the wheels.
    Plus, probably the question is about target designation and topographic location.
  21. starec.luka
    starec.luka 1 November 2015 11: 16 New
    +2
    well no. there will not be much time in the rear to search for mines, reconnaissance, diversionary activity. raid, but if we take the altitude and hold it at which dust it’s another conversation ... then we’ll look for mines, and that’s all garbage ... protest those are my opinion. as vvshnika .... it’s easier to squeeze the mortar from ov will .....
    waiting for comments
    I would like to diskusirovait until my wife went to the boutiques))))) am
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  23. cte-power
    cte-power 1 November 2015 11: 34 New
    +2
    Moscow echo however - heard a ringing
  24. papik09
    papik09 1 November 2015 11: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: starec.luka
    well no. there will not be much time in the rear to search for mines, reconnaissance, diversionary activity. raid, but if we take the altitude and hold it at which dust it’s another conversation ... then we’ll look for mines, and that’s all garbage ... protest those are my opinion. as vvshnika .... it’s easier to squeeze the mortar from ov will .....
    waiting for comments
    I would like to diskusirovait until my wife went to the boutiques))))) am

    What? Mines "borrowed" from the enemy will never be superfluous. laughing
    Something like that.
    drinks hi
  25. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 1 November 2015 11: 52 New
    +2
    Accuracy will suffer. And you can shoot.
  26. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 1 November 2015 14: 23 New
    0
    said the colonel in an interview with Ekho Moskvy radio station


    Well, when will this anti-people’s radio station slam like a stinky bug?
    5th column - to the wall!
  27. k_ply
    k_ply 1 November 2015 17: 47 New
    +2
    The 2S9 gun has the ability to shoot foreign-made mines of a caliber of 120 millimeters ...

    Opening! as well as 82-mm mortars 2B14 can shoot 81-mm "foreign" mines.
    What is the photo of the Wolf from 2B16 Nona-K? although the gun can also fire 120-mm domestic and foreign mines, but it is not in the Airborne Forces.
    In general, the topic of autonomy in terms of ammunition, fuel and lubricants and materiel is relevant for the airborne forces, which are forced to act in isolation from the main forces, i.e. often lacking direct logistical support (including medical) and supply, therefore, the possession of airfields is of interest to them (airborne forces) in the first place.
  28. uge.garik
    uge.garik 1 November 2015 18: 06 New
    +1
    Well, and turning the gun on the horizon - the whole machine ..?
  29. k_ply
    k_ply 1 November 2015 18: 52 New
    +2
    The firing sector even in the towed version is 60 ° (2B16), here it is hardly less, with 120 mm SAO 2S9-1M Nona-S, and with a similar firing range (12,8 km - ARS), this artillery system is not necessary (IMHO).
  30. VadimSt
    VadimSt 2 November 2015 08: 06 New
    +1
    Either I do not understand the essence and political coloring of this "Echo of Moscow", or the colonels, who are on this "echo", constantly confess.