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Opposition reaction to Airbus 321 crash: political order or moral degradation?

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31 October 2015, a terrible plane crash occurred. Among the passengers were children. The only people on this planet who are truly unable to lie. They are bypassed by politics; mercantile interests and complexes of unrealized ambitions are alien to them. Children age, in my opinion, is sometimes needed by adults more than by the children themselves. It is necessary to remind of something pure, so that at least once a regular man in the street shook off prejudices and for a moment got out of the material swamp.


It is the attitude towards children (and elderly people) that speaks of the moral level, spiritual health, and even capacity, both of the whole society and its separate group. Even in places not so remote, "child-killers" are a class of untouchable outcasts. For the last mention of the humane nature of man at his best age is sacred. This is the foundation, the foundation of society. And it is worth this society itself to forget about it, as its suicidal component absorbs the whole. The rapid degradation invites into the already burning house all the minor sins - greed, envy, vanity and other guests.

No, I will not conduct a psychological or social analysis. This is not required. After all, there is practically no difference between the svinichim delight of the Maidan screamers at the burning House of Trade Unions in Odessa and the poor orgasm of the network trolls over the wreckage of an airliner on the Sinai Peninsula. Just the dead children's bodies became for them a tiny hindrance, an uncomfortable piece, which was successfully overcome. This is not the Rubicon and the bottom that was not broken again - this is the end of the road, the finish.

And therefore it is worth presenting only a small part of our finalists. So to say, a small digest in which the finalists present themselves. Let's start with our "nebratev", so to speak burnt "Europeans".

Opposition reaction to Airbus 321 crash: political order or moral degradation?


And here is a massive orgy.



Professional cadres of the opposition media also once again proved their “professionalism”.



Well, that to us on "abroad" to go. Let's return to our sheep, as they say. And then the next “star” of the opposition Elshad Babayev clumsily proclaimed. Despite the fact that Elshad did not learn to write without a mat, and was treacherously pulled by the ears from the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the second financial spring, he flashed "timely" humor. True, he forgot to mention that his reference to Mikhail Zadornov concerns the latter’s brutal satire on media inclination to sensationalism by any means, written many years ago. But these subtleties do not fit in the mind of Elshad.



Mr. Gudkov did not stand aside either. Trying to pump up his rotten political career, Gennady Vladimirovich began to burn with a verb. Well, until the body is cold.



The queen of all drunk parties of the capital Ksenia Sobchak didn’t change herself either. She, to admit, surprised me a lot with her mental abilities, which I thought was somewhere between a guinea pig and a sterilized rabbit. This time, Ksenia Anatolyevna very far-sightedly retweeted the condolences of Svyatoslav Vakarchuk (the leader of the Okean Elzy group), who had recently worked as a guslar on the Maidan, but remained able to manifest simple human feelings. Sobchak, thus, added himself to the condolences, and at the same time showed "the true face of the Maidan." But the trouble is, the young lady underestimated both her readers and the “face of Maidan” itself. In general, it was clumsy.



What was that? Political urges? Or moral degradation? Does it matter? In my opinion, no. Only, what to do to society is a question. And infantile answers in the style of "plant" will not help. More precisely, they are impractical, and inhumane. For me to become a mirror reflection of these individuals is death, spiritual emptiness, a vacuum. Perhaps the only way to fight is a social boycott. Full rejection, as the living rejects the dead. No communication, no shopping, no business contacts, no outstretched hands. Who knows? After all, I do not believe in hopelessness.
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  2. Bayonet
    Bayonet 1 November 2015 04: 39 New
    -49
    In a country of mourning for the dead, and someone ... in general, it is disgusting to read such articles - out of time and out of place. He suffered at least until tomorrow.
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      1. Vladimyrych
        Vladimyrych 1 November 2015 05: 07 New
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        Unambiguously and unconditionally. Once again I am convinced of the need to return the right to the State to deprive citizenship.
        1. venaya
          venaya 1 November 2015 05: 28 New
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          Quote: Vladimir
          Once again I am convinced of the need to return the right to the State to deprive citizenship.

          Perhaps you think that's enough? Personally, my opinion is only the reorganization of such entities. Ultimately, it is necessary to build specialized psychiatric clinics for "people" with this form of the disease. I do not see the possibility of leaving them free under normal conditions. They are too dangerous for others, this is not acceptable.
          1. Abakan
            Abakan 1 November 2015 05: 35 New
            56
            I think . although it’s wrong they must be killed
            1. venaya
              venaya 1 November 2015 06: 17 New
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              Quote: Abakan
              I think. although this is wrong, they must be killed

              You can kill in different ways, and you can morally.
              1. Baikonur
                Baikonur 1 November 2015 09: 35 New
                24
                The moral of immoral?
                In their turtles and stone hearts, it can no longer be restored! (Yes, and it was not there!)
                This is NOT PEOPLE, NOT ANIMALS!
                They must be sent to space!
                Without a spacesuit!
              2. APASUS
                APASUS 1 November 2015 10: 09 New
                52
                Quote: venaya
                Quote: Abakan
                I think. although this is wrong, they must be killed

                You can kill in different ways, and you can morally.

                No need to kill anyone - God punished them, robbed them of their brains!
                1. dali
                  dali 1 November 2015 13: 41 New
                  +3
                  God has done his job ... and now it's up to people: there are many solutions, enough for the taste and color of everyone!
              3. Dryuya2
                Dryuya2 1 November 2015 16: 06 New
                +4
                Quote: venaya
                You can kill in different ways, and you can morally.

                and with this G..NOM what will you do ???
                I don’t recommend watching for people especially excitable,
                I'd use a pipe so that I would give it a little time on the back of my head am winked
                (BUT for review does not hurt)
                I do not upload - only a link
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp6N_Hi3950#t=11
                1. Dryuya2
                  Dryuya2 1 November 2015 16: 11 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Dryuya2
                  BUT for review does not hurt
                  1. Mwg
                    Mwg 2 November 2015 19: 11 New
                    +3
                    Flash mob moron - each by SMS with an opinion. And call dad to work
                2. Mwg
                  Mwg 2 November 2015 18: 56 New
                  0
                  Dryunya2, and to whom did he give a link? Who is it?
              4. shvn
                shvn 1 November 2015 17: 41 New
                12
                Yeah, Ksenia-Horse horseradish morally kill, she will trample anyone. Khabalischi is still that ...
                1. Oman 47
                  Oman 47 1 November 2015 23: 03 New
                  +9
                  Habalisch ???!
                  Ordinary bazaar KOLHOZNAYA KHABALKA (not from the cultural capital of the Russian Federation).
                  It's simple: Ksyushad - to the racetrack, to the race for 1500 meters, among non-pedigree cattle, with a discount of 20 seconds. ...
            2. Eragon
              Eragon 1 November 2015 10: 54 New
              18
              Quote: Abakan
              I think . although it’s wrong they must be killed

              Why kill? This is inhumane. During the time of Leonid Ilyich, compulsory psychiatric examination was practiced, followed by compulsory treatment. So now we need to introduce such a practice. And there already it deserved: either to the state of a beaten dog, so as not to dare to yap, or to the state of a vegetable. Prihiatrists are well aware of what can be done with a person different honey. drugs and techniques.
              1. vadson
                vadson 1 November 2015 12: 11 New
                +7
                Better to hard labor them
                1. Evildaddy78
                  Evildaddy78 3 November 2015 08: 18 New
                  +1
                  And for life!
              2. USSR 1971
                USSR 1971 1 November 2015 12: 23 New
                18
                All evil will come back. God is in the world. Today, in an address to the people, Patriarch Cyril asked God to give such people reason and not punish them. This is Christian. But God has already punished these people, depriving them of reason and conscience. In addition, there is still a human court. It’s high time to introduce an article for insulting the memory of the dead, not only with vandalism in cemeteries, but also in the media and the Internet.
                To cattle and moral freaks, everything will return.
              3. Igor Nikonov
                Igor Nikonov 1 November 2015 12: 52 New
                +5
                Feed them, spend the medicine. let them work.
              4. Starik72
                Starik72 2 November 2015 15: 48 New
                0
                Dmitry-Eragon. So the "green" howl will raise, so they scoff at the cattle and, moreover, psychotropic drugs.
              5. Starley from the south
                Starley from the south 2 November 2015 20: 34 New
                +2
                Quote: Eragon
                Prihiatrists are well aware of what can be done with a person different honey. drugs and techniques.

                This is not our method. It’s necessary that they acted in antiquity in Turkey ... well, you understand ...
              6. Old old
                Old old 3 November 2015 21: 07 New
                0
                During the time of Leonid Ilyich, compulsory psychiatric examination was practiced, followed by compulsory treatment.

                Well, why immediately "punitive psychiatry".
                There are also more "democratic" methods.
                For example, create an analogue of Guantanoma. Instructions and manuals can also be requested from amers (as assistance in expanding democracy). And to release from such an institution only through a polygraph.
            3. 44 World
              44 World 1 November 2015 12: 32 New
              +5
              Do not be like these flawed ... God judge them ...
            4. Evildaddy78
              Evildaddy78 3 November 2015 08: 10 New
              0
              Quote: Abakan
              they must be killed

              it’s right, only slowly, slowly, so that it doesn’t hurt
          2. Sasha 19871987
            Sasha 19871987 1 November 2015 16: 21 New
            +5
            who filth about the dead bazaar, it is necessary to collect and give the relatives of the dead ...
          3. KVS
            KVS 1 November 2015 20: 27 New
            +3
            so that at the expense of taxpayers?
            this is not wrong!
            for such individuals labor colonies should be created in a life-long settlement without the right of pardon ...
            1. Evildaddy78
              Evildaddy78 3 November 2015 08: 20 New
              0
              Definitely !!!!!
          4. Orionvit
            Orionvit 2 November 2015 15: 23 New
            +2
            Only reorganization, but better immediately chlorpromazine in order to turn into a plant. I hope that there is a database for all this scum. It is necessary to fight against nonhumans more radically, otherwise this evil will crawl out like in Ukraine. Then it will be too late.
          5. bazilio
            bazilio 3 November 2015 12: 59 New
            0
            Quote: venaya
            Perhaps you think that's enough? Personally, my opinion is only the reorganization of such entities. Ultimately, it is necessary to build specialized psychiatric clinics for "people" with this form of the disease. I do not see the possibility of leaving them free under normal conditions. They are too dangerous for others, this is not acceptable.

            stop stop guys. Why make martyrs and "victims of the regime" out of these scum? let this "fifth column" (I mean those who are on the territory of the Russian Federation) will be in sight. The people see and clearly realize what kind of scum they are and therefore their influence on the masses will be scanty. But for such statements and insults they must be held accountable strictly according to the law.
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          7. Valentine
            Valentine 3 November 2015 21: 07 New
            0
            Maybe it's time to remember Norilsk, Kolyma, Solovki, there, since 37, nothing has changed, the same barracks, the same towers, the same "prickly" perimeter ... Mr. President! Let's lose time, we will get Syria, Libya, Ukraine together. This should have been done yesterday.
          8. AndreySTR
            AndreySTR 3 November 2015 22: 48 New
            0
            It’s time for the KGB not to waste their bread. We ate right. Although, I’m sure there is more than anything in order.
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 1 November 2015 08: 20 New
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          Quote: Vladimir
          Unambiguously and unconditionally. Once again I am convinced of the need to return the right to the State to deprive citizenship.

          Not only to deprive of citizenship, but also to return the death penalty. We grieve to the families and friends of the deceased with you, the kingdom of heaven and the earth let it be lost to the dead.
          1. Stelth1985
            Stelth1985 2 November 2015 05: 26 New
            -17
            I can say to him that I grieve, but I am not happy about it. I judge from a third party. People paid with blood for sins. This must always be understood. Who should not have died on this plane did not get. Only those who should have got. Such is the will of the Gods and Universal Laws. No one can jump over them. I’m telling you as an initiate in the sacrament of Faith. Foreigners also die. All over the earth. But for me it’s still a tragedy, because my compatriots died. Russian people died. A mockery of the dead can only be the last mr * z and ub * yudki! I’m not talking about hohlopiteks. This is generally nobody. They refused to be Russian. Forgot your roots. Just a herd of monkeys living on our Earth. I am about Western Ukraine, where devilry has bred.

            For the Honor and Glory of the ancestors!
            1. a housewife
              a housewife 2 November 2015 17: 48 New
              +7
              I do not put a plus or a minus. There is no third party !!! Decide, and do not hide behind the gods. My God is Christ. And he said about those who perished under the collapsed tower: “Do not think that they were more sinful than others. But if you don’t repent, everyone will perish like that.” Do you think that perishing children are also sinful? I do not put a minus, because you admit that this is also a tragedy for you.
              1. Stelth1985
                Stelth1985 3 November 2015 08: 00 New
                -4
                Yes. Sinful. For a child is just a form of existence in this world. The spirit that was sent and settled in them is sinful, for they paid with blood. So in a past life they did something. So always and everywhere. Blood is taken for blood. This is the law of the gods. They could just as well grow up and die adults. I do not see the difference. All the same, death. And believe me, there is a third party. You just did not look beyond the horizon. You judge philistinely. From the standpoint of a secular person who lives within the framework of this state and more importantly this church. I judge differently and saw a lot of things that not everyone knows and does not recognize obviously. For reasons of unwillingness to develop spiritually.
              2. Stelth1985
                Stelth1985 3 November 2015 08: 11 New
                -2
                Yes. And about Christ, look for more information. I think you will be surprised. What they are told is just a confirmation of my words. He confirms that they died for their sins and gives a warning to people that people have departed from the Gods and ceased to respect and honor them, that you also finish if you do not repent and do not stop committing sins.
            2. Starley from the south
              Starley from the south 2 November 2015 20: 47 New
              0
              Quote: Stelth1985
              Who should not have died on this plane did not get.

              The question is deeply philosophical - they should have died, they shouldn't! .. This is a considerable human tragedy, and you are conducting philosophical research here. The third side? There are no third parties in such matters - there are only two of them. From a third party it smells like guile. You can, of course, say that without death there is no life: death and birth - the eternal sea, life and movement - in eternal freedom; but the children ... the children have not yet lived! Before the children who have perished, all philosophy fades!
              1. Stelth1985
                Stelth1985 3 November 2015 08: 07 New
                -8
                Well, now let's breed snot even more. The position of many people just infuriates me. For a simple reason - BREED SOAP OPERA! Mmmm! Let's fall and crawl on the ground screaming. I will tell you a secret, apparently unknown to you apparently: nothing will change from snot. You will not bring them back to life. And I can’t stand all this and also for a simple reason: all these moans are also a form of hypocrisy. It just seems to you that you empathize. And this is not so! What do you think, I have never seen death in my life? I'll tell you more - I killed. And who else but me should now know and understand the value of life. For me, the price of the life of a bug and a person is the same. Something no one is crying killing a fly or a cockroach. But the cost of living is the same.
                1. BLOND
                  BLOND 3 November 2015 09: 29 New
                  +1
                  You write above, develop spiritually ...
                  Now about the snot ...
                  I feel sorry for you! And I'm shocked by your spiritual mentor
                  1. Stelth1985
                    Stelth1985 3 November 2015 10: 17 New
                    -3
                    It’s a pity to those who understand little or have very limited views of the universe. And the universe is very cruel. The weaker the people, the more they lament and pour snot. This is an inevitable truth.
            3. navigator
              navigator 3 November 2015 10: 33 New
              +4
              Quote: Stelth1985
              I’m telling you as an initiate in the sacrament of Faith.


              Cool. But here they will not appreciate you, they have chosen the wrong audience. What sect are you from? Tell us a secret, who dedicated to the mystery of Vera? What gods do you believe in?
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                1. navigator
                  navigator 3 November 2015 12: 10 New
                  0
                  Quote: Stelth1985
                  Do you have enough or want to know something else?


                  No, it’s enough for me. Keep your faith to yourself as well as opinions about what and when was or wasn’t. I didn’t come to you for a lecture, I asked and answered.
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        3. I am Russian
          I am Russian 1 November 2015 12: 28 New
          +4
          First, it is necessary to make the State a State that will be for the good of the Russian people, and only then give it some right.
          1. Stelth1985
            Stelth1985 3 November 2015 10: 50 New
            0
            Correct words.
        4. Stelth1985
          Stelth1985 2 November 2015 05: 17 New
          -5
          Our state is a fiction. You will look around. Where is the state present now? It leaves everywhere. Around private traders. Owners, local "nobles". The state now plays more of the role of a gendarme. Collect taxes, resolve conflicts between groups, etc. And the common people are thrown away and forgotten.

          For the Honor and Glory of the ancestors!
        5. Starley from the south
          Starley from the south 2 November 2015 20: 28 New
          0
          This tragedy shows who our friends are and who are our enemies. Enemies will die from their own malice - this is a natural and inevitable process.
        6. zmey77
          zmey77 2 November 2015 21: 39 New
          +3
          it’s high time to tighten the nuts and send these moral freaks out of the country, let Obama at home do it .. hawala !!!!!!!!!!
        7. SAXA.SHURA
          SAXA.SHURA 3 November 2015 14: 15 New
          +2
          It is not necessary to deprive citizenship, but to fill the cellars of Lubyanka with these creatures and put them against the wall, as under Stalin, so that this abomination would not be happy about the death of CHILDREN.
      2. jaguar
        jaguar 1 November 2015 05: 08 New
        15
        scum !!!!! Somehow you are very soft am But in fact, my condolences to my family
      3. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 1 November 2015 05: 26 New
        10
        Quote: fiction
        scum !!!!!

        Indeed, cattle rage ... shock and sorrow ...
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 1 November 2015 09: 29 New
          +8
          Quote: fiction
          scum !!!!!


          Who - from the last forces is trying to kill Ukraine

          Makes them kill themselves, and they are happy, idiots

          This country didn’t get enough, so they also finish off people.

          Confidently crawl into the garbage pit - they win the race among the scum of the planet


          I am glad that not everyone is there


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      5. lelikas
        lelikas 1 November 2015 09: 40 New
        58
        Shary said best of all ...
        1. Moore
          Moore 1 November 2015 11: 44 New
          13
          The best phrase at the end: "... but non-publicly, of course, we need to work on them ..."
        2. a housewife
          a housewife 2 November 2015 18: 00 New
          +3
          I totally agree . But I do not like it when these creatures are called animals. Animals are not capable of this! Let's call them something else. For example, vampires or zombies, it is closer to the truth.
          1. FM-78
            FM-78 3 November 2015 00: 10 New
            0
            Vampires and zombies, I think, will be offended.
          2. Atash
            Atash 3 November 2015 15: 12 New
            0
            "Westerners"! Will it go?
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        4. Aandrewsir
          Aandrewsir 2 November 2015 23: 03 New
          +1
          Anatoly, you are almost right. I do not consider these insects (not animals) to be Ukrainians. And I respect you. You have your own opinion on events ... And it is human! But, tell me, how does the population of Ukraine tolerate "these unicellular organisms"
      6. SeAl2014
        SeAl2014 1 November 2015 11: 15 New
        +1
        evil spirits. Crush like cockroaches.
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    3. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 1 November 2015 05: 03 New
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      Quote: Bayonet
      Suffered even until tomorrow

      In what century Sasha disagrees with you - the task of the media is to quickly respond to everything ..
      "The feather was leveled to the Bayonet .." Mayakovsky wink
      Or moral degradation?

      The question is rhetorical, the question mark is superfluous ..
      The minus is not mine ..
      Once again, sincere condolences to the families and friends of the victims
    4. asiat_61
      asiat_61 1 November 2015 05: 38 New
      +5
      I think, during. Read what they write on the censor, quiet horror.
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 1 November 2015 05: 58 New
        +2
        I went in, but all the comments on the disaster and the news related to it are not available to me, but I imagine that that audience is being bled.
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 1 November 2015 09: 01 New
          10
          - Sincerely surprised - in a good sense of the word - Vakarchuk. I always considered him a frost-bitten nationalist, and he, unlike many, many "fellow citizens" dancing on bones, turned out to be a man ...
        2. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac 1 November 2015 09: 16 New
          +1
          the number of comments is indicated, and the comments themselves are not available. at least yesterday.
    5. Finches
      Finches 1 November 2015 10: 05 New
      +8
      Perhaps Shtyk is right and today there is no need to focus on the statements of moral freaks, but we need to speak about this clearly! Unfortunately, in the words of Lermontov:"The fate has come true!" and we grieve, and continuing Mikhail Yuryevich, we recall the rejoicing scum:

      "But there is also God's judgment, confidants of debauchery!
      There is a terrible trial: he is waiting;
      It is not accessible to the ringing of gold,
      And he knows thoughts and deeds in advance.
      Then in vain you will resort to evil thoughts:
      It won't help you again ... "!
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 1 November 2015 12: 21 New
        +5
        Quote: Finches
        today you don’t need to emphasize the statements of moral freaks,

        That's what I wanted to say! DO NOT NEED TODAY! There is mourning in the country, and some, in their "fair struggle" and hatred, simply do not notice this! The innocent souls would be remembered better ...
    6. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 1 November 2015 10: 34 New
      -5
      The author of the article is a provocateur himself. He cited the opinion of some incomprehensible Babaev, and other scumbags from the censor. No, but with a loud name the opposition sank into shit. You can not even use human tragedy in your political showdown?
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 1 November 2015 19: 36 New
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        Quote: Nikolai K
        but the loud name sank into the shit opposition.

        And in the shit it’s the place to find a reason to be happy about the deaths of people like it’s bestial, 224 people, of whom there were 25 children, the youngest is 10 months old, the body of a 3-year-old child was found 8 km from the crash site. And is the opposition happy? I’m not talking about dill, they have a holiday today, visit their sites, Lord, I praise you that I’m not Putin and I’m not Shoigu, otherwise I would have dumped YARS all over this evil spirits, thank God there are still adequate people there, condolences with the whole world is walking today, but I haven’t heard a single condolences from this so-called opposition, so you yourself have determined its place precisely in shit.
    7. vladimirw
      vladimirw 3 November 2015 12: 12 New
      +1
      Traitors to Russia must always be remembered and known.
    8. Old old
      Old old 3 November 2015 20: 52 New
      0
      In a country of mourning for the dead, and someone ... in general, it is disgusting to read such articles - out of time and out of place. He suffered at least until tomorrow.

      You shouldn’t be so. It hurts and offends a person that some ki rejoice in the grief of the people and the death of people!
    9. Old old
      Old old 3 November 2015 20: 52 New
      0
      In a country of mourning for the dead, and someone ... in general, it is disgusting to read such articles - out of time and out of place. He suffered at least until tomorrow.

      You shouldn’t be so. It hurts and offends a person that some ki rejoice in the grief of the people and the death of people!
    10. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 3 November 2015 21: 21 New
      +1
      people like you too. So that people do not forget what the moral ones are!
    11. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 3 November 2015 22: 34 New
      0
      You know, Altona, it was this one from the portrait, no matter how badly he was, forced to reckon with the USSR. I was not a communist (I jumped off the candidates), I dodged the high status of a communist back in 1985, and only after Gorbachev and Yeltsin, communist miscarriages, I became convinced that dictatorship and "personality cult" are not necessarily bad. Gaddafi, Hussein are dictators. Today they write in the "non-handshake" Assad. Here, against your will, you will think - is democracy so good? When a chronic felon, a client of a mental dispensary has a 1 to 1 vote with an academician, a teacher of the highest category, a specialist of the highest level in his field, be it a techie or a humanist.
      They lived in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yugoslavia. Now they do not live - they live.
      Maidan is not bam. Maidan is a script. Glory to Ukraine - also not bam. The sly fox (Kravchuk) is not a fox at all - an actor. Look on the Internet for what Kuchma said about the fact of the destruction of the TU-154 in his kingdom by the Ukrainian Air Force, and Kuchma climbed into the kingdom bending all state employees with the threat of dismissal in dashing unemployed times (voting). Further, too, everything fits into what the liberals (also absurdity-liberalism) are so diligently sniffing around - a world conspiracy. Indeed - for the "world" is too small, but it looks like a gangway.
  3. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 1 November 2015 04: 41 New
    11
    What can I say ... The liberal, especially moved away from the feeder, is a diagnosis ....
    1. Andrea
      Andrea 1 November 2015 05: 16 New
      +4
      In fact, liberalism is treatable.
      One has only to decide whether you are for a country or a country for you.
      You owe it to your homeland or your homeland to you.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 1 November 2015 05: 37 New
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        Quote: Andrea
        In fact, liberalism is treatable.
        One has only to decide whether you are for a country or a country for you.
        You owe it to your homeland or your homeland to you.

        Good question, I came up with such an idea. We - the patriots believe that we should be in front of the Motherland, and almost all of us swore allegiance to the Motherland ..
        Liberals and other trash thinks that it is their homeland that they owe - simply upon the fact of birth in Russia soldier
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 1 November 2015 09: 07 New
          +5
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Good question, I came up with such an idea. We - the patriots believe that we should be in front of the Motherland, and almost all of us swore allegiance to the Motherland ..
          Liberals and other trash thinks that it is their homeland that they owe - simply upon the fact of birth in Russia


          - "We are warriors of light, they are disgusting creatures of darkness!" - weren't the frozen militants on the Ukrainian "Maidan" covered with such slogans? Such. Even a song (or even a couple) was sprinkled on this topic. But the point is that people are different, both among "patriots" and among "liberals", "monarchists", "neo-Nazis" and so on. You can't take it like that - and make everyone equal. Those who believe that the Fatherland owes them everything, at once and a lot just by the fact of birth are enough in any social, political and other groups. Regarding the oath ... you know the old joke? Moiseev and Zverev served in the army "from call to call." Rastorguev, Valuev - examples of masculinity! - no. So it's not about the oath, and many of the groups other than the "patriots" served in the army. Vasilyeva generally worked in the army! As well as Serdyukov! It doesn't affect anything.
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 1 November 2015 09: 30 New
            +1
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            Regarding the oath ... you know the old joke? Moiseev and Zverev served in the army "from call to call."

            Military service is a secondary issue in determining a patriot. Quintessence in answer to the question - who owes you to whom is your homeland or homeland to you.
            I accidentally stuck you a minus, please ring hi
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 1 November 2015 12: 24 New
              +2
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              who owes you to the Motherland or Homeland to you.

              Love must be mutual!
              1. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 1 November 2015 14: 23 New
                0
                Quote: Bayonet
                Love must be mutual!

                You villain laughing Although someone with pathos probably went too far .. request but I guarantee the meaning ..
      2. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 1 November 2015 10: 29 New
        +4
        But it is impossible to build relationships with the homeland without mutual debts and obligations, but simply to love her?
        1. AlexeyL
          AlexeyL 2 November 2015 10: 21 New
          +2
          That's right. Two concepts must not be confused. Homeland and state (in the sense of its leadership). When leadership works for the good of your homeland, it gives a positive effect. And if it’s a stranger, then this leadership corny betrays its homeland. The state may change and even disappear, but the homeland is forever.
  4. yuriy55
    yuriy55 1 November 2015 04: 42 New
    22
    What was that? Political urge? Or moral degradation? Does it really matter? In my opinion, no. Only now, what is society to do is a question. And infantile answers in the "plant" style will not help. More precisely, they are impractical, and not humane. To become a mirror image of these individuals for me is death, spiritual emptiness, vacuum. Perhaps the only way to fight is a social boycott. Total rejection, like living things, rejects the dead. No communication, no shopping, no business contacts, not a single outstretched hand. Who knows? After all, I do not believe in hopelessness.


    These are dances on bones. This is the scum for which there is nothing sacred. There is nothing to compare them with. They will mock other people's grief until it touches themselves.
    1. tolian
      tolian 1 November 2015 09: 59 New
      0
      No IT does not scum. THIS, just not smart individuals. It’s just that half-educated people, deprived of god and parents. Each of them with a complex of resentment. Ready to bite anyone for this resentment. Not realizing that he was just a du..n. And it’s not a matter of education, it’s a genetic DNA ... And die a fool. And there are still, unfortunately, enough of these. It is not for nothing that they pull out the theory opposite to Darwin's theory. There is a degradation of the human race. Example? But THESE .....
  5. mig31
    mig31 1 November 2015 04: 52 New
    19
    My condolences to all the relatives and friends of this tragedy, as well as to all Rissi and to all who are not indifferent in the World. Sochak and other evil spirits Svidomo and Russophobian burn in hell. Let it be so.....
  6. reut.sib
    reut.sib 1 November 2015 04: 54 New
    -40
    VO could it not spread or it became boring on the site?
  7. horoh
    horoh 1 November 2015 05: 04 New
    10
    It is very bad that in our society is full of moral urodov broadcasting from everywhere and as a rule with impunity !!! My condolences to family and friends, may the earth rest in peace.
  8. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 1 November 2015 05: 05 New
    55
    According to the latest data, among the dead 4 people were Ukrainians and one Belarusian. And in Ukraine, those who remained human beings carry flowers, toys to the Russian embassy and cry with us.
  9. Vova Vasilievich
    Vova Vasilievich 1 November 2015 05: 05 New
    14
    Sarcasm on a mountain of people is the destiny of mediocre people.
    1. nikolaj1703
      nikolaj1703 1 November 2015 06: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: Vova Vasilievich
      Sarcasm on a mountain of people is the destiny of mediocre people.

      not mediocre people, but animals!
      1. tolian
        tolian 1 November 2015 10: 02 New
        +6
        Why do you insult animals?
      2. crazy_fencer
        crazy_fencer 1 November 2015 10: 47 New
        +6
        Why do animals offend? Unlike people, they do not know how to betray.
  10. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 1 November 2015 05: 19 New
    +1
    Well, they still take kama !? So to say one people !? And about "our" Russian "comrades" these reptiles need to be pushed first!
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  12. Bort radist
    Bort radist 1 November 2015 05: 22 New
    +4
    Stop hanging dirty sheets. Not the time.
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  14. shinobi
    shinobi 1 November 2015 05: 35 New
    +3
    To revive the practice of the kings of political expulsion from a country with the deprivation of citizenship. Love the Western model of freedom and other things? On the way! There they will be prompted with their real value and their place in the garbage can be determined.
    1. tolian
      tolian 1 November 2015 10: 04 New
      +2
      Do not pay attention to them. They will sometimes be beaten. Strong. It's possible. No more.
  15. dckx
    dckx 1 November 2015 05: 41 New
    +8
    By and large, these statements are expected, the saddest is that they play on the mountain, thereby forming a certain mood and negative ("rip off the mass"). More worried about the place of the fall, no matter how provocation (against Egypt if a terrorist attack or the same Israelis if a rocket). Perhaps this is an attempt to distract Russia from active actions in Syria, the "partners" have a very strong "heels" (and these goblins are capable, history has proven more than once). I really don't want to believe in a provocation, because if this is so, then "kipish" is cool ...
    Sincere condolences to relatives and friends.
  16. FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 1 November 2015 05: 41 New
    +8
    It can’t be cured ... it needs to be burned out with hot iron .. the authorities don’t need to lick .... it is necessary to press the hydra ..... For these are not people!
    1. tolian
      tolian 1 November 2015 10: 08 New
      0
      As you all do not understand! After all, this case is a wonderful case to incite hostility among the Slavs. As some individuals here demonstrate. Especially Bandera lasts.
      1. I read the news
        I read the news 1 November 2015 11: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: tolian
        After all, this case is a wonderful case to incite hostility among the Slavs. As some individuals here demonstrate.

        Agree
        Quote: tolian
        Especially Bandera lasts.

        I disagree. Recently, it began to overwhelm from our side. If "there" the bacchanalia is the second year, then it is high time to give those who are jumping on their hat.
        Have you noticed that more and more outcries from the crowd: "Ukrainians are to blame for everything!"? does not resemble anything?
        Further, "schoolchildren who have not yet figured out" what will they shout: "Hollyak to Gilyak or Lvovyan to knives"?
  17. victorsh
    victorsh 1 November 2015 05: 46 New
    +8
    There is such a phrase: Treat people the way you want to be treated.
    These villains have shown themselves.
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 1 November 2015 06: 00 New
      +5
      Quote: victorsh
      There is such a phrase: Treat people the way you want to be treated.


      This is not just a phrase, it is the "golden rule of morality and ethics." The statements of these ..., proof that neither morality nor morality of their bodies and souls are not burdened.
    2. igordok
      igordok 1 November 2015 07: 35 New
      51
      Quote: victorsh
      There is such a phrase: Treat people the way you want to be treated.

      1. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 1 November 2015 07: 58 New
        +3
        A ray of light in a dark kingdom.
        1. WUA 518
          WUA 518 1 November 2015 08: 50 New
          24
          quote = Strezhevchanin] A ray of light in the dark kingdom [/ quote] The Ukrainians brought flowers, toys and lit candles near the Russian embassy. Not all "oskotinilis", people remained.
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          2. tolian
            tolian 1 November 2015 10: 21 New
            +2
            Really doubted?
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      3. tolian
        tolian 1 November 2015 10: 21 New
        +4
        Zhukovsky - did not doubt for a minute that everything that was happening in Ukraine was not a fruit ripened among the Ukrainian people. We know well that this is - centuries ago, sown, decades grown now, the fruit of the West and the USA. And it is cultivated and cultivated by a tribe of mankurts, the last of the killers of Bandera, Konovalets, Shukhevych and past riffraff. Which for the underdog..ow current are heroes. On their side are feces of mine, sometimes shekels for which human blood is shekels. There is a struggle. Victory will be true.
      4. igordok
        igordok 1 November 2015 18: 30 New
        +4
        Shary about filth.

  18. sl22277
    sl22277 1 November 2015 05: 50 New
    +7
    Let the earth be lost to the dead! I don’t even want to talk about these non-humans, I didn’t deserve it ..
  19. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 1 November 2015 05: 54 New
    16
    I do not want to comment on this muck. I just don’t want to ... I’ll be silent today, in memory of the victims I’ll be silent ...
  20. Zomanus
    Zomanus 1 November 2015 05: 59 New
    +6
    It's time to introduce the practice of losing rights.
    That would not have the right to live at public expense.
  21. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 1 November 2015 06: 03 New
    14
    October 31, 2015 there was a terrible plane crash. Among the passengers were children.
    All died. What can I say here, FATE. To pity relatives and friends. To bring my condolences, it will be humanly, Christianly. And in any religion it is said that do no harm to another. General pain should unite. Before you think badly, think good.
  22. Vityok
    Vityok 1 November 2015 06: 06 New
    +3
    Eternal memory to the victims! Rest in peace! And about the reaction of the so-called "opposition" - they are not born idiots, they become! angry
  23. freejack
    freejack 1 November 2015 06: 09 New
    +2
    ... Subhumans ... when they make fun of those who have left this world, this is already some kind of animal orgy ... although I cannot compare them with animals ... even the very last one will look nobler than these "oppositionists" ...

    A blessed memory and eternal peace to you, passengers and crew of this unfortunate flight ... I grieve ...
  24. Riv
    Riv 1 November 2015 06: 12 New
    +4
    And yet: to plant. Fuck them, with practicality and humanity. Under Stalin, they were given "ducats" and the enemy of the people believed that he got off easily.
    1. Azitral
      Azitral 1 November 2015 09: 57 New
      +2
      Lord, I call on your judgment.
  25. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 1 November 2015 06: 15 New
    +2
    Quote: victorsh
    There is such a phrase: Treat people the way you want to be treated.
    These villains have shown themselves.

    This rule applies to ordinary people who think not only about themselves.
    I once saw an interview with Sobchak - the main goal is to show herself and to shock everyone, at any cost, she just doesn’t give a damn about all the people. True, then in another interview her mother complained about which daughter was vulnerable and timid beyond her years.
  26. slizhov
    slizhov 1 November 2015 06: 28 New
    0
    These are the ones who prepare the fastest horse in advance ...
  27. MolGro
    MolGro 1 November 2015 06: 29 New
    10
    An interesting way for the librarians to seek the love of the people, to spoil all the time, and then they howl that they cannot win the election!
  28. ML-334
    ML-334 1 November 2015 06: 31 New
    +2
    If not, you need to write and accept an article for this case. Send to the critters zone for 20 years without amnesty.
  29. Dart2027
    Dart2027 1 November 2015 06: 54 New
    +1
    Vile, but expected. It would be unexpected if everything was different.
  30. Dmsms
    Dmsms 1 November 2015 06: 55 New
    0
    Real n @ scanty, neither honor nor conscience, devoid of feelings of compassion. Complete ignore.
  31. Yurmix
    Yurmix 1 November 2015 07: 09 New
    +1
    It’s not that liberalism doesn’t have a sacred soul for Iskariot Judas, for the handouts of the guardians of democracy must be worked out. It seems to me that it’s time to apply harsh measures to these white petals, not just closing NGOs. These corrupt little knots are gnawing like worms in an apple from within, for the whole apple tree, of course, imperceptibly, but if you do not poison today, tomorrow you will get a dead tree.
  32. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 November 2015 07: 14 New
    +4
    the only way to fight is a social boycott

    When this pack has erased all the norms of morality, when the grief of the country makes them happy, the social boycott will not help. For such people (I mean those living in Russia, I don't even want to talk about Ukraine), tough and radical measures are needed. Otherwise, they will breed their own kind for the joy of our enemies. They had to be taken seriously even until then, when such words as "bydl.o", "sovok", calls for disobedience, etc., sounded from them to the Russians.
  33. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 1 November 2015 07: 35 New
    +1
    In Ukraine, a new variety of scum animals was bred ...
  34. Wedmak
    Wedmak 1 November 2015 07: 37 New
    +3
    Well, did anyone expect a different attitude? The "smart" reason and the authorities to scold and mock at the Russians. Actually, even yesterday, at the first report of the death of people on the Russian flight, everything started. An hour has not passed. It's a holiday at the censor, the liberals have a reason to express their words according to the manual ...
    Fill this face ... but you don’t want to dirty your hands, it’s suddenly contagious. And will it help? The bruises will go away, but the brain cannot be fixed. Here the author is right, as it were, one way out - the complete isolation of these people. From communication, from any manifestations of their activity in general.
  35. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 1 November 2015 07: 48 New
    0
    Do not pay attention to these animals: they are below us on the evolutionary ladder.
  36. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 1 November 2015 08: 07 New
    34
    Yes, I can’t understand at all what happened to them
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 1 November 2015 09: 59 New
      0
      This petess is sexually preoccupied with one climax in her head
    2. Stelth1985
      Stelth1985 2 November 2015 05: 54 New
      0
      And nothing so interesting! They forgot themselves, forgot their roots, forgot that they are Russians, that they are Slavs! They betrayed the Russian in themselves, and that is why such "people" are now just meat without family, tribe and motherland!

      For the Honor and Glory of the ancestors!
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 2 November 2015 19: 59 New
        +1
        They forgot that they were human.
    3. Ded_smerch
      Ded_smerch 3 November 2015 10: 58 New
      0
      what with these from the Republic of Kazakhstan

      this is brain liberalism
  37. kebeskin
    kebeskin 1 November 2015 08: 17 New
    +1
    In the morning I sat reading the comments of the Americans about the crash of the plane.

    1. Terrorists shot down a plane.
    2. ISIS trades retaliation for syria. Russia has a problem with Muslims
    3. Ala Russian drunk Russian vodka and waving for safety flew.
    4. The plane crashed for those reasons. It’s time to take control. Take this whole thing to the state authorities since private owners save on security in search of profit
    5. Express condolences
    6. Revenge for the downed Malaysian Boeing. What many correct right there. Which is not proven. Plus, the Europeans themselves and NATO countries are delaying. So it’s not so simple.

    Some Americans still have clever thoughts)
  38. Mitrich76
    Mitrich76 1 November 2015 08: 18 New
    +2
    This is just NOT human. There is no other name. The point is not even patriotism, or its absence, but in the desire to advertise oneself, one’s own liberality, using any occasion, even tragedy. And let's stop evaluating this pack of human categories. They do not deserve it.
    By the way, smart people shoot rabid animals to prevent the spread of infection. And it helps ...
  39. Gardamir
    Gardamir 1 November 2015 08: 37 New
    +3
    Today is the day of mourning, so let's see who the opposition is. Those who go to restaurants, to entertainment shows. TV channels that will drive entertainment. Interestingly TNT will stop?
  40. onix757
    onix757 1 November 2015 08: 39 New
    -9
    Yes, disgusting, but what can we demand from others when the vertical itself is immoral?
    1. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 1 November 2015 09: 24 New
      +1
      onix757
      but what can we demand from others when the vertical itself is immoral?


      .... you cannot demand from yourself well, at least do something .... worthwhile ....... draw a picture .... invent ... a bicycle ..... well, at least something that would ... not to consider life .... a mistake of nature. hi
      1. onix757
        onix757 1 November 2015 09: 53 New
        -6
        Do not poke, otherwise you will pierce. I did not switch to "you".
        1. Azitral
          Azitral 1 November 2015 10: 08 New
          +7
          Please do without provocations at least today. As an exception, huh?
          1. onix757
            onix757 1 November 2015 10: 40 New
            -7
            This is not a provocation, but rather a harsh reality.
  41. Averias
    Averias 1 November 2015 08: 54 New
    +6
    Where is the world heading? A terrible tragedy happened, grief and tears of people. Instead of silently expressing condolences, the media have broken loose. Yesterday I specially monitored the news, everywhere, absolutely everywhere, the version of a terrorist attack, a MANPADS missile is being circulated. Some in context, some directly. The news began to grow into ridiculous speculations, and it is understandable. For the media, an "ordinary" plane crash is not interesting, not rated. We need "scandals, intrigues, investigations". Now "experts" who are so "brilliant" that even without leaving the house can establish the cause of the disaster, appear on the screens. And the most interesting thing is that these same "experts", a couple of days ago were "experts" in economics, and after a couple of days they were "experts" in geopolitics, BV, science, medicine and so on. Talk shows will begin now, where a herd (yes, exactly a herd) of pompous and absolutely indifferent people will tear their throats. In the heat of the yell and their rotten ambitions, completely forgetting about the true reason for what they had gathered for. Ideas that are inherently idiotic will sprinkle - how to "fix" everything. And then everything will be cynically forgotten, in anticipation of a new sensation. Forgive friends, it burst. It's just that the "degree" of cynicism in society is off the charts.
  42. Siberian1965
    Siberian1965 1 November 2015 09: 22 New
    +4
    Condolences to all those who have lost loved ones in a terrible plane crash. I don’t even want to write about subhuman people who mock grief. All of them will be rewarded according to deeds and thoughts. More concerned with the cause of the disaster, if the reason for the failure of technology is how to make it so that safety becomes priority, and not profit.
  43. AlexTires
    AlexTires 1 November 2015 09: 23 New
    +2
    These pitiful little people compensate for their lack of fulfillment, lack of demand with streams of evil and hatred on their country. But as in the proverb: "A cat scratches on its back." Meow!
  44. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 1 November 2015 09: 41 New
    +3
    Well what can I say. We have something about these creatures and so everything is clear. And there is no need for references to the "brotherly" Ukrainian people, which are actually smart and adequate, and, they say, you should not pay attention to scoundrels, especially since they were found in the Russian Federation. The "fraternal" Ukrainian people are not averse to taking advantage of Russia on occasion, but around the corner they will perfectly assent to their scoundrels. The only question is to our authorities, they that for the sake of politics will continue to present gifts to this regime, and its people who agree with the regime. Politics, yes, a cynical thing. but not to the same extent as to bring down your people. No negotiations on three billion, let them pay or not pay, but no concessions!
  45. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 1 November 2015 10: 01 New
    +7
    Once again I repeat my thought ... Svidomity seriously and have long been fighting with us. Starting from the commander in chief, ending with a simple homeless, called up in the Armed Forces. They themselves strongly believe in their own nonsense. And, unfortunately, yes, we no longer brothers. Anyone. But not brothers.
    There are, of course, good, adequate people ... But let's recall one historical example - Nazi Germany. After all, not everyone there was convinced Nazis ... There were just sympathizers, officials, forced to work for the regime, communists, social democrats ... Even there were those who were not interested in politics at all ... But everyone went to the Wehrmacht indiscriminately, and shot our grandfathers (mine, specifically) with purely German pedantry and hard work.
    At the beginning, our commissars explained to the soldiers that they say there are comrades-workers in the rear of the Germans who are against Hitler ... but then they rolled back to Moscow and stopped sorting them, for the WAR! Ilya Ehrenburg - "KILL THE GERMAN!
    God forbid, I’m not calling for anything. It’s just probably time to think, but how can we get along with our neighbors.
  46. Epifan
    Epifan 1 November 2015 10: 10 New
    +2
    What degradation can be degraded? This is their bestial level. Although here they are even worse than any cattle.
  47. Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk 1 November 2015 10: 13 New
    14
    Mourning day today, brothers.
    Mourning Day!
    And not musing different topics.
    ....
    My heart bleeds when I see live photos of dead children.
    Children.
    ....
    And I don’t want to repeat a single gram - we all walk under God.
    After all, children.
  48. akm8226
    akm8226 1 November 2015 10: 20 New
    +3
    Dill has nowhere to go further ... finish ... we are waiting for an answer from the Lord.
  49. samoletil18
    samoletil18 1 November 2015 10: 46 New
    +3
    Brothers! The thought of a terrorist attack does not leave me. The bodies of the dead are scattered within a radius of 5 km. The plane crashed in the air.
    But that would not be the reason, grief, terrible grief. I sincerely grieve for the dead and condolences to their near and dear ones.
    PS. I beg you without pluses and minuses, if someone wants to evaluate a comment, this is not the time.
  50. Sergey333
    Sergey333 1 November 2015 10: 55 New
    +4
    Quote: reut.sib
    VO could it not spread or it became boring on the site?

    No, it has not become boring and is part of the current military operations. Another ideology is contagious, especially if it applies to children. And given that the majority of representatives of the 5th column are journalists, teachers, i.e. if the intelligentsia has access to voicing their thoughts to the masses of people, then this cannot be ignored.