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Media: the wreckage of a Russian passenger plane missing from radar discovered in Egypt

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The wreckage of the Russian civil Airbus airliner found today in Egypt in the center of the Sinai Peninsula, reports RIA News with reference to foreign publications.
Airbus A321-200, archival photo.
According to the Youm7 portal, “Egyptian security forces cordoned off the crash site, about twenty ambulances were sent from the city of El Arish in the north of Sinai to evacuate the victims of the disaster.”
Resource Masravi, in turn, said that “for the search for a Russian aircraft, the military was raised on alert aviation Of Egypt. "
A source at the Federal Air Transport Agency told the agency that the Kogalymavia Airbus 321, which operated the 9268 Sharm el-Sheikh-Saint Petersburg flight, flew from Egypt to 6.21 (Moscow time) and disappeared from the radar screens via 23 minutes There were 217 passengers and seven crew members on board. ”
Official Cairo confirmed the detection of debris aircraft. "Egyptian Prime Minister Sheriff Ismail convened a crisis committee to destroy the liner," the government said.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 31 October 2015 11: 52 New
    18
    Here is the sixth sense that I feel that without our "partners" it could not have done!
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 31 October 2015 11: 54 New
      22
      Sorry for the dead and their relatives

      Yesterday it was reported that Saakashvili, Gerashchenko sent militants from air defense systems to bring down a Russian plane and quarrel Russia and the United States

      True, it was about Syria

      Something a lot over the past few days -
      the conspiracy of Saakashvili, mass launches of our missiles, and here is our plane

      1. figwam
        figwam 31 October 2015 11: 59 New
        13
        disappeared from radar screens after 23 minutes

        During this time, a serviceable aircraft could gain the required height of 10-11 km and apparently it fell from this height.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 31 October 2015 12: 15 New
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          Quote: figvam
          During this time, a serviceable aircraft could gain the required height for it 10-11km and apparently it fell from this height


          Pilots complained about the engine ....

          At the Sharm el-Sheikh airport, they said that the crew of a crashed Russian airliner complained several times a week about problems with the engine.

          Accept the Lord of the souls of your servants, may the earth rest in peace for them all
          1. tomket
            tomket 31 October 2015 12: 27 New
            52
            Quote: Vadivak
            that the crew of a crashed Russian airliner several times a week complained about problems with the engine.

            Well, that’s what we’re coming to. Removing from the tragedy and grief of people we get. Problems with European technology. If some carcass had crashed, there would already be a cry about how long you can fly on Soviet trash, destroying innocent people. After the same tragedy they will shrug their shoulders, they will say, well, with whom it does not happen. Any equipment breaks down, and surely the crew either drank or did not finish their studies, and everything will be written off to the notorious human factor.
            1. dvg79
              dvg79 31 October 2015 12: 37 New
              73
              The problems are not so much with the equipment as with the leadership, who first bought European trash, and then ignored the crew’s complaints about the state of the art. The picture is familiar to the pain. The earth rest in peace to the dead.
              1. jjj
                jjj 31 October 2015 13: 55 New
                +1
                Sadly, condolences. But friends, fly only Aeroflot
                1. lukke
                  lukke 31 October 2015 14: 26 New
                  +3
                  Sadly, condolences. But friends, fly only Aeroflot
                  It does not yet cover the entire air traffic network, rather expensive tickets, and we don’t always rely on the airline when there is a choice of a more convenient time of departure-arrival.
                  1. steel_balls
                    steel_balls 31 October 2015 18: 22 New
                    +8
                    I think it was a technology failure. A month and a half ago, I flew to Crete with this Colavia, and back with Ural Airlines, so on the way back right after takeoff, the sound was as if they were trying to start the right engine again on the run ... These are all of them, these are our charters. The saddest thing is that all tour operators have the same charter airlines and do not fly anything else there. There is simply no choice. Or take separately tickets and a hotel and fly with a transfer by foreign companies.
                    1. Bayonet
                      Bayonet 31 October 2015 21: 19 New
                      +2
                      Quote: steel_balls
                      A month and a half ago I flew to Crete with this Colavia

                      I have been there since September 14! True to there (Heraklion) from Rostov and back on the Greek "watermelon", charter. The car is very well maintained inside, apparently not old. hi
                2. sherp2015
                  sherp2015 31 October 2015 19: 25 New
                  +2
                  Quote: jjj
                  Sadly, condolences. But friends, fly only Aeroflot


                  And that is true! And perhaps you need to at least temporarily stop flying in this direction
                3. kuz363
                  kuz363 31 October 2015 19: 27 New
                  +2
                  So he also has 90% of the fleet of foreign
                  1. jjj
                    jjj 31 October 2015 21: 04 New
                    0
                    Quote: kuz363
                    So he also has 90% of the fleet of foreign

                    But the cars are fresh, the pilots are experienced and flown, and the maintenance is rigorous. As for the prices, the price is not so much
              2. vladimirZ
                vladimirZ 31 October 2015 16: 26 New
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                Quote dvg79 (1):
                Problems are not so much with technology as with management, which first bought European trash, and then ignored the crew’s complaints about the state of the art ...

                The problem in our aviation, rather, not even in the leadership, but in the organization of civil aviation in Russia.
                The once united USSR-Aeroflot was defeated by means of Yeltsin-Gaidar-Chubais privatization into hundreds, if not thousands, of small and low-power small enterprises, incapable of:
                - trouble-free operation of flying equipment,
                - train specialists: pilots, engineers, technicians,
                - during the time to service and repair aircraft,
                - lost repair and maintenance bases,
                - closed and abandoned hundreds of airports and airfields,
                - and so on, so on, so on.
                With the destruction of civil aviation, aviation civil aircraft construction also collapsed, aircraft factories and design bureaus closed.
                They did not miss their civilian pilots. They began to issue and buy fake pilot's licenses, former navigators, flight engineers, former decades, turned into pilots.
                Dozens of small air carriers, such as the Kogalymavia airline, whose plane crashed in Egypt, having 3-6 airplanes that set a profit goal by reducing flight safety, is the basis of systemic and regular air crashes in Russia.
                It is necessary to stop with a large variety of air carriers in Russia, ideally, they will return to the same state (with a blocking state block of shares) air campaign.
                It is time to stop with these Transaero, Kogalymavia and others, causing air crashes, disruption of passenger flights, the destruction of civil aircraft construction, depriving them of a license to operate aircraft, prompting the air companies to unite.
                But this requires the political will of the Russian leadership, but it does not exist, unfortunately.
                1. ssergn
                  ssergn 31 October 2015 22: 28 New
                  +2
                  Transaero fleet - 106 boards (official info on the site). You can’t name a small company. Yes, and for a long time in the market. I didn’t say that the tickets were cheap, it’s hard to say what ruined her. Maybe leasing is exorbitant, maybe a jump in exchange rates coupled with reduced demand, most likely all together. It happens - remember Pan American? There were more examples.
                  1. vladimirZ
                    vladimirZ 1 November 2015 07: 22 New
                    +2
                    For Russia, with its boundless expanses, on which very few people live, but where “it is only possible to fly by plane”, and flights there are obviously unprofitable, the presence of dozens, if not hundreds of private airline campaigns, is state stupidity.
                    Therefore, in Russia, all interregional and intraregional transportation practically stopped.
                    Therefore, for the sake of profit, aviation safety is neglected in all air campaigns.
                    Civil aviation in Russia is in a miserable state, there is practically no building of its own aircraft, and flight and engineering personnel are not being prepared in the right amount, ...
                    It is time for the Russian leadership to discard all the liberal cracking and think, finally, about the revival of civil aviation on a planned state basis. By and large, the death of people in plane crashes the last quarter century, on their conscience.
                    It is necessary to stop this criminal variety of private air carriers.
                    And finally it came to Russian lawmakers.
                    The head of the State Duma committee on international affairs, Alexei Pushkov, proposed reducing the number of air carriers in Russia to two or three. He said this on the air of the Russian News Service. In his opinion, "this is an area in which the state should intervene." - information Newspaper.Ru
            2. Vadivak
              Vadivak 31 October 2015 12: 57 New
              +3
              Quote: tomket
              If some carcass crashed

              In my opinion, there were no accidents involving the death of passengers with the Tu-204, there was a disaster when five crew members died ...
              1. Bayonet
                Bayonet 31 October 2015 13: 13 New
                +8
                Quote: Vadivak
                In my opinion, there were no incidents with the Tu-204

                If we compare the number of "watermelons", Boeings and Tu-204 in our operation, this is not an argument! hi
                1. SRC P-15
                  SRC P-15 31 October 2015 13: 44 New
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                  Here I thought: how are we Russians, we are different from the West and Ukraine - we do not shout to the whole world that the plane was shot down and we are not looking for the guilty until the situation becomes clear. Recall what happened in the event of a Boeing crash in Ukraine. Even before the discovery of the remains of the aircraft, it rushed through all channels that Russia was to blame for this tragedy. God be their judge, but today our country shows an example of how to behave in these situations.
                  I was hoping for a miracle, but it did not happen. My condolences to the relatives of the victims. May the earth rest in peace!
                  1. sichevik
                    sichevik 31 October 2015 15: 38 New
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                    Recently I went into the ear of Moscow and went nuts. The regulars there are gloating and jubilant over this terrible tragedy. And among them there are a lot of ours, local, home-grown liberals. There are, of course, many ukromaydanodebilov there, but our scum there is enough. And these scum are in no way inferior to Svidomo ub-people-kam ...
                    1. olimpiada15
                      olimpiada15 31 October 2015 17: 12 New
                      +9
                      Quote: sichevik
                      Recently I went into the ear of Moscow and went nuts. And these garbage in no way inferior to Svidomo ub-people-kam ...

                      They are from the same nest and they have a common feeding trough.
                    2. ksv1973
                      ksv1973 31 October 2015 20: 04 New
                      -8
                      Quote: sichevik
                      Recently I went into the ear of Moscow and went nuts. The regulars there are gloating and jubilant over this terrible tragedy. And among them there are a lot of ours, local, home-grown liberals. There are, of course, many ukromaydanodebilov there, but our scum there is enough. And these scum are in no way inferior to Svidomo ub-people-kam ...

                      “Minus” is mine, for it’s not for FIGs to “go in” to this and similar dumps.
                      1. sichevik
                        sichevik 31 October 2015 20: 12 New
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                        But somehow I do not chase the pros and do not get upset because of the cons. And sometimes I go to all kinds of govnosites. And in the ear matzah, and even (oh horror) stubborn censor. In order not to relax and remember that there is still scum in the whole world. And this scum is still a lot. Or is it prohibited here ???
                      2. sichevik
                        sichevik 31 October 2015 20: 15 New
                        +1
                        By the way, your minus is not from me. Honestly!!!
                      3. Erg
                        Erg 31 October 2015 20: 47 New
                        +4
                        ksv, the enemy must be known in person. I myself often go through enemy sites to "strengthen in faith" soldier
                      4. AlNikolaich
                        AlNikolaich 31 October 2015 21: 21 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Erg
                        ksv, the enemy must be known in person. I myself often go through enemy sites to "strengthen in faith" soldier

                        Colleague, I also go to the censor, and I signed up for the bulk group in VK.
                        Not only faith for, but enemy information!
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                  3. Zavr
                    Zavr 31 October 2015 22: 01 New
                    +7
                    There are, of course, many ukromaydanodebilov there, but our scum there is enough. And these scum are in no way inferior to Svidomo ub-people-kam ...


                    But after people like you, the whole world considers Russians ..

                    Kiev, the Russian Embassy, ​​was there such a thing in Russia near the Netherlands Embassy or Ukrainian after the fall of Il and Boeing?



                    1. bragin
                      bragin 31 October 2015 23: 49 New
                      +1
                      Okay you! No need to count Russians, Ukrainians, Mongols, etc. Mind! Common sense! Robust! meaning.
                    2. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 1 November 2015 00: 57 New
                      +4
                      All Brothers from Ukraine Thank you for your condolences!
                      Glanoy that we are together!
                      They are destroying us everywhere, on the ground, underground, in the air, at sea, in fratricidal wars, in mines, in production, on the roads and even pedophiles, now we also have tolerance ...
                      But what about us, living ..., it’s a pity that we swallow ...
                      Another Kursk ...!
                      All 224 people at once in the 23rd minute became ANGELS ... maybe they help us understand how we live ....
                      I grieve .....
                    3. marna
                      marna 1 November 2015 12: 43 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Zavr
                      Was this in Russia near the Netherlands Embassy or Ukrainian after the fall of Il and Boeing?


                      It was. And near the Embassy of the Netherlands, and near the Embassy of Malaysia. Flowers, children's toys, flags. And near the embassy of Ukraine it was. Not only after the Boeing disaster, but also after Odessa.

                      Let's not count. People are everywhere.
                2. Kent0001
                  Kent0001 31 October 2015 21: 49 New
                  +2
                  I also hoped to the last that he at least sat on his stomach in the desert, but alas ..... all day thinking about the dead children ...
            3. Starley from the south
              Starley from the south 31 October 2015 14: 10 New
              +9
              The only aircraft that had no accidents - IL-86. It is difficult to explain why it is not being released in a modernized version. Or do they release it?
              1. Armored optimist
                Armored optimist 31 October 2015 15: 20 New
                0
                He fell. In Pulkovo. True, there was no crew.
                1. dog1965
                  dog1965 31 October 2015 17: 57 New
                  +2
                  In 2010, he fell at Sheremetyevo. He took off too sharply and fell off. It seems there is still a flight attendant who sat in the tail survived. There were no passengers on the plane.
              2. Aleksey_K
                Aleksey_K 31 October 2015 15: 26 New
                +8
                Our planes did not always meet the requirements for flights in Europe and America. Therefore, very often flights of Russian aircraft were simply prohibited (not always objective). Second-hand western planes - cheaper. That is why it is falling that used and there is apparently no proper European pre-flight maintenance of equipment. I think our airlines are to blame.
                1. jjj
                  jjj 31 October 2015 21: 07 New
                  0
                  There was a "Su-95" - he flies in the "Aeroflot". For the passenger, everything is quite comfortable. But the capacity of the construction plant is not enough. And, most likely, it’s more profitable for the plant to build a little
                2. Starley from the south
                  Starley from the south 1 November 2015 00: 18 New
                  +2
                  I had a pretty tight chat with a retired pilot. In his opinion, our (civilian) planes are no worse, in all respects, than European or American. They simply were not allowed to enter the market, inventing all kinds of nonsense, about loud noise and unreliability. As a result, in the 90 years, our civilian aircraft industry nearly died. I think that even if we produce the best airplanes in the world, nobody (i.e. those whom the Americans and Europeans can push) will not buy them.
              3. Mikhail Krapivin
                Mikhail Krapivin 31 October 2015 15: 58 New
                +1
                Noisy, gluttonous, unprofitable.
              4. avia12005
                avia12005 31 October 2015 16: 44 New
                +6
                Ilyushin did not carry kickbacks to the government, like Boeing and Airbus. fool
                1. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 31 October 2015 21: 26 New
                  +2
                  Quote: avia12005
                  Ilyushin did not carry kickbacks to the government, like Boeing and Airbus.

                  Used aircraft are not bought from Boeing and Airbus, but from previous owners. Carrying kickbacks to the government is also stupid - there are enough buyers. Temper your exuberant fantasy hi
              5. Erg
                Erg 31 October 2015 21: 02 New
                +1
                I have lived in Norilsk for thirty years. They flew on the IL-18. Also a nicho airplane. And, here, as the 154th went, then "miracles" began. One of the cases - in November 1981 in Alykel (aerial of Norilsk), during landing, the Krasnoyarsk flight crashed. A girl from a parallel class flew there (she remained alive, about 20 people survived). The trust "building mechanization" of the grave was digging, because more than a hundred ...
              6. saygon66
                saygon66 31 October 2015 22: 11 New
                0
                -86-e did not bring to mind ... The engines designed for them, for some reason, did not produce ... put from the 154's, but the power was not enough ... They did not fly up into the sky and climbed. ..
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 31 October 2015 13: 35 New
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            Very sorry for the dead ...
            Condolences ...

            flew a couple of years ago on the Kagalym "Watermelon" from a charm.
            The plane just flew in quickly unloaded, immediately loaded into it luggage, food, refueled and immediately landed for landing.
            The airplane was ancient, the maximum seats were squeezed out of the “Arbuzik” cabin, that is, it was all converted into an economy-economy class, it was not comfortable to sit at all, because. my seat was located near the rear bulkhead and did not recline, under the seat there were some boxes brought into the cabin before boarding the passengers ...
            The flight attendants tried to compensate for the inconvenience by distributing wine, which passengers enjoyed drinking throughout the flight ...
            The flight was successful ... This was Kagalym Avia 2,5 years ago ...
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          4. Now we are free
            Now we are free 31 October 2015 13: 57 New
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            Firstly, thanks to the site administration for removing the Like / Dislike system from such news. Thank you, the death of people all the more so our compatriots is not a place to put like or not like.
            Secondly, now there is a very large flow of information among which there is a lot of frank delirium / filth / desire to raise the rating of your information agency. In particular, I just listened to the representatives of the British Guardian saying that the voices of the living are heard from under the debris ... Where did the British get such information? Why voice it to the whole world? Even if the Egyptian authorities did not say anything like that ??? Britain, as usual, showed how competent / tolerant their media are.
            Thirdly, I am very afraid of pah-pah-pah withdrawal of this tragedy in an analogue of Boeing. Moreover, the plane flew over the area where the Egyptians are conducting an operation against Islamic terror. groups ...
            We are waiting for news about what happened.
            All the relatives and friends of the deceased have the deepest condolences, this is a tragedy for all of Russia.
          5. Rus2012
            Rus2012 31 October 2015 15: 06 New
            +2
            Quote: tomket
            Any technique breaks down

            ... simultaneous failure of two engines - a small probability.
            Only because of low-quality fuel or lack thereof ... or simultaneous shutdown, vol. including "from the side"
            1. Russiamoy
              Russiamoy 31 October 2015 20: 29 New
              0
              the same suspicions, especially the relationship with the UAE is not very. and such do not choke on anything under the control of the United States.
              And sincere condolences to the families of friends and relatives of the victims.
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          7. gjv
            gjv 31 October 2015 17: 15 New
            0
            Quote: tomket
            they say, well, with whom it does not happen. Any equipment breaks down, and surely the crew either drank or did not finish their studies, and everything will be written off to the notorious human factor.

            Representatives of Kogalymavia say that the pilots in the crew are experienced, 12000 hours of flight, and the human factor has nothing to do with it.
            Already the ISIS group boasts that this is their doing.
          8. sergeant1986
            sergeant1986 31 October 2015 19: 20 New
            +1
            I've been talking to friends all day about this! And foreign cars on the roads are broken much more than domestic cars. Here lobbyists will not let yell. But our aviators should be informed in detail later, because of which the liner crashed. To let everyone know. And to relatives to hold on. This is grief. And here it remains only to condole ...
        2. Teplohod
          Teplohod 31 October 2015 14: 57 New
          +3
          How then did they allow him to fly with complaints? A strange story from the Sharm el-Sheikh airport.
      2. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 31 October 2015 13: 26 New
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        The Israeli site walla.co.il published that the plane gained speed 740 km / h and in one second it fell to 172 km / h and at the same time lost contact.

        not an expert, but it seems that such a sharp loss of speed and communication leads to a version of the instant destruction of the aircraft.

        Condolences to the families ...
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 31 October 2015 14: 15 New
          +2
          Quote: Maki Avellevich
          the plane gained speed of 740 km / h and in one second it fell to 172 km / h

          Only a wall can extinguish speed at 568 km / h. in a second! They just write nonsense - the yellow press! am
          1. Vladycat
            Vladycat 31 October 2015 15: 00 New
            +1
            Quote: Bayonet
            Quote: Maki Avellevich
            the plane gained speed of 740 km / h and in one second it fell to 172 km / h

            Only a wall can extinguish speed at 568 km / h. in a second! They just write nonsense - the yellow press! am

            I am not special and do not claim to be true. But is it possible to lose speed this way with active climb and a sharp stop of the engine? Just why the connection instantly disappeared ?. I hope our black boxes will be deciphered sooner than in a year. And so condolences to all
          2. lis-ik
            lis-ik 31 October 2015 17: 23 New
            0
            Quote: Bayonet
            Quote: Maki Avellevich
            the plane gained speed of 740 km / h and in one second it fell to 172 km / h

            Only a wall can extinguish speed at 568 km / h. in a second! They just write nonsense - the yellow press! am

            Or it is possible that not a wall, but a plane was shot down, this is not my opinion, but an expert on Vesti FM, he is a former captain of an aircraft, now he is investigating air crashes.
            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 31 October 2015 21: 10 New
              +1
              Quote: lis-ik
              Or perhaps it’s not a wall, but a plane that was shot down

              Even a downed plane does not instantly lose speed - no one canceled the inertia. hi
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          4. Simple
            Simple 31 October 2015 20: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: Bayonet
            Only a wall can extinguish speed at 568 km / h. in a second!



            The aircraft moves in space having three coordinates.
            Most likely the plane lost 568 km / h (of course not in a second) at the heading.
          5. PValery53
            PValery53 31 October 2015 22: 15 New
            -1
            Simply, citizen, his horizontal speed turned into vertical. Pique.
        2. Armored optimist
          Armored optimist 31 October 2015 15: 22 New
          +2
          If the destruction is on the echelon, then the scatter of debris will be large. And now they say that it fell apart into two parts.
          1. Andrey77
            Andrey77 31 October 2015 16: 47 New
            +3
            Failure of 2 engines? I do not believe.
      3. Rus2012
        Rus2012 31 October 2015 15: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: figvam
        During this time, a serviceable aircraft could gain the required altitude 10-11km

        The last flight parameters before the sharp loss of speed and altitude began -
        height 9tys.m
        speed approx. 700km / hour
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 31 October 2015 16: 07 New
          +2
          Quote: Rus2012
          height 9tys.m

          MANPADS disappear
          IG has no more serious air defense
          means a terrorist attack or .. anyway a terrorist attack, tomorrow we’ll find out ..
          1. Andrey77
            Andrey77 31 October 2015 16: 48 New
            0
            Probably. Warning to our military pilots ...
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 31 October 2015 14: 39 New
      -3
      Quote: bulvas
      Sorry for the dead and their relatives


      Highly. Here is a fresh one about this:
    3. Rus2012
      Rus2012 31 October 2015 14: 52 New
      11
      three days ago there was such infa -
      ..say something important happened in Syria during the current 36 hours.
      Our bombed something important -
      An Islamic state (banned in Russia) will inevitably create or acquire weapons of mass destruction, warns the former commander of the British Army’s nuclear division, Dr. Hamish de Bretton-Gordon. The risk of using a nuclear bomb in Russian cities has increased significantly due to tensions with Russia, he argues.

      According to the former military, terrorists are looking for scientists to help them create a bomb. Dr. Bretton-Gordon added that Moscow is “extremely vulnerable” and the UK is safe because of the “high quality” of its intelligence services.

      You did not understand? London threatens Russia with a nuclear attack. British bomb explode, the arrows will transfer to ISIS.

      Meanwhile, insiders are reporting that our liberal media outlet has a new “temnik”. I think that in the coming days, if not hours, we will encounter a powerful information campaign in our liberal media. Yes, yes - they will scream for the urgent termination of the operation in Syria.

      At the same time, he went over to Shoigu.

      The same insiders hinted that we bombed something very successfully in Syria in the last 36 hours. So fortunate that the Asadians began to accelerate the offensive, and our worst "partners" ran in and began to throw such threats here.

      The smartest advise civilian planes to stay away from Syria, Iraq and neighboring countries. Unless, of course, they do not want to repeat the sad fate of two famous Boeing.

      http://topru.org/26128/v-sirii-chto-to-sluchilos/comment-page-1/#comment-134899

      ... let's hope that this time there will be no phrases like "... she drowned".

      And so the probable causes of the disaster, there may be the following -
      1. The attack on board.
      2. Shot down from the ground. Missile or electronic warfare (aircraft without direct control with EMDS)
      3. Failure of materiel with destruction in the air.
      4. Third-party interference in the work of avionics. As it became known recently, all Western liners can be taken under ground control by certain structures of the "countries of developed democracy."
    4. I am Russian
      I am Russian 31 October 2015 21: 18 New
      +1
      News from the militia of New Russia
      31.10.15/XNUMX/XNUMX Urgent message from journalists.

      "ISIS terrorists claimed responsibility for the crash of a Russian plane in Egypt. Islamic State militants claimed responsibility for the crash of a Russian passenger plane in Egypt, Agence France-Presse reports. Reuters reports that a terrorist message has been posted on terrorists’s Twitter that the group associated with ISIS took responsibility.

      A statement about this was also made on the Aamaq website, which is a semi-official ISIS news agency.

      Recall, the Kogalymavia Airbus-321 airliner, operating flight 9268 Sharm El Sheikh - St. Petersburg, left Egypt at 6:21 Moscow time and disappeared from the radar screens after 23 minutes. At the port of the aircraft were 217 passengers and 7 crew members. Later, the wreckage of the aircraft was discovered in the foothills 100 km from El Arish in the north of Sinai.

      Most likely, this information is an attempt by terrorists to "increase their authority."

      A Russian airliner crashed in Egypt, fell vertically, which led to the burning of large parts of the aircraft, said a representative in the Egyptian security service from the scene of an emergency.

      “The airliner fell vertically, leading to the burning of its large parts,” Reuters said in a statement.

      According to the statement of the Ministry of Civil Aviation of Egypt, the A321 plane of flight KGL9268 flew from Sharm el-Sheikh to St. Petersburg on Saturday at 5.51 in the morning (6.51 Moscow time). He disappeared from the radar 23 minutes after take-off. Onboard were 217 passengers and seven crew members. The Sinai administration previously clarified that the plane crashed in the central part of Sinai in the mountains between the districts of El Kantala and El Laksima near the city of Al Hasna. According to Egyptian authorities, no one survived the crash. "
      1. Zavr
        Zavr 31 October 2015 21: 30 New
        0
        News from the militia of New Russia
        31.10.15/XNUMX/XNUMX Urgent message from journalists.


        And what side are they here? or are the "militia" journalists from Turkey reporting? Maybe enough on death PR
    5. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 31 October 2015 22: 22 New
      +3
      But what, Mishanya? The woman covers up, swallows drugs, hid from the court ... but she still gets the grandmother for that, beautiful! Only now, it may happen that they drag our Mishanya like a lascivious cat, and castrate ... And if it turns out that this is his handiwork, then he must be torn alive into pieces ...
      And no one will remind me why our paratroopers stopped near Tbilisi in 2008? Why was Saak not caught and was sentenced to life in prison for the murder of our peacekeepers? By the way, Russian citizens! Maybe we are reaping the benefits of our softness? Or the softness of Medvedev?
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  3. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 31 October 2015 11: 55 New
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    Quote: Observer2014
    Here is the sixth sense that I feel that without our "partners" it could not have done!

    just the sympathy of a relative and the dead, can not be expressed?
    1. Russian Moldavian
      Russian Moldavian 31 October 2015 12: 02 New
      84
      Censors rejoice on the censor, and there 17 children and about 200 people died. MY SPARK OF CONDOLENCES TO CLOSE AND RELATIVES !!!!!! THE SOUL HURTS AND THE HEART IS CRYING !!!!!
      1. jaguar
        jaguar 31 October 2015 12: 15 New
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        My condolences to my family ... I went to the censor now and looked at the comments: you are not creatures, you are worse than any filth am am am
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 31 October 2015 12: 31 New
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          Quote: jaguar
          Ukrainians you are not creatures you are worse than any filth


          What does the Ukrainians have to do with it? Don’t you know who leaves such comments?
          Here is the help for you
          The Ukrainian information site "Censor.Net" is the property of a well-known political as well as statesman - Turchinov.
          And according to the certificate of nationality of his father in 1909, who was a prisoner in captivity while serving in the 447 punitive battalion, he is Russian if that.

          Ukrainians I removed, scum has no nationality
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          3. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 31 October 2015 14: 43 New
            +2
            Quote: Vadivak
            Ukrainians I removed, scum has no nationality
            Ukrainians are not a nationality, but a way of thinking
          4. sherp2015
            sherp2015 31 October 2015 19: 33 New
            -1
            Quote: Vadivak
            What does the Ukrainians have to do with it? Don’t you know who leaves such comments?
            Here is the help for you
            The Ukrainian information site "Censor.Net" is the property of a well-known political as well as statesman - Turchinov.
            And according to the certificate of nationality of his father in 1909, who was a prisoner in captivity while serving in the 447 punitive battalion, he is Russian if that.

            Ukrainians I removed, scum has no nationality


            In fact, I read somewhere that the real name of Turchina is Kogan ...
            Purely "Russian" ...
      2. Coconut Tima
        Coconut Tima 31 October 2015 12: 20 New
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        Quote: Russian Moldovans
        On the censor, the creatures rejoice, and there 17 children and about 200 people died

        I went to the censor - the feeling of plunging into!
        1. Zavr
          Zavr 31 October 2015 21: 32 New
          -7
          Well, actually the same thing happened on Russian resources when Il and Boeing were shot down, so why are you surprised? boomerang has not been canceled yet
      3. sh1749
        sh1749 31 October 2015 12: 35 New
        10
        Now I read the censor, there are NO words !!! CATTLES rejoice, but God is their judge. MY MOST SPARK OF CONDOLENCY !!!!! KEEP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      4. Truth
        Truth 31 October 2015 13: 10 New
        +4
        Quote: Russian Moldovans
        On the censor, the creatures rejoice

        You look at rambler ...
        A flock of scum mock at the grief of people, shit whips streams ...
        The keyboard troops of the country of 404 went on the attack.
      5. skifd
        skifd 31 October 2015 17: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: Russian Moldovans
        On censor critters rejoice


        I offer a link to the publication, it shows who is happy .. And "ours" bbl there is ...

        # Kogalym AVIA. People. And nonhumans.


        http://yudenich.ru/content/kogalymavia-lyudi-i-nelyudi
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 31 October 2015 23: 11 New
          +5
          Thank you, I read the link. I will not swear. I really say, if the Lord wants to punish, it deprives the mind. With one catch, EVIDENCE!
          But the most important thing that killed me on the spot ... "Moscow clubs will not close on Halloween due to the crash of the plane." I will not swear!
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    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 31 October 2015 12: 05 New
      45
      Quote: MIKHAN

      You don’t intimidate anyway ...

      Mihan, do you have any conscience left? Or drank it all? Hundreds of people have sorrow, and you throw shit.
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 31 October 2015 12: 07 New
        -2
        Oh how cunning! We ALL of course condole! moreover, it is our blood and flesh! But the reasons are also expressed here!
        The caricature fully describes EVERYTHING happening now (and for a long time) in the world! And there is a place in it for professors and adherents of your Higher School of Economics (type) (Moscow), LOCAL LIBERASES!
      2. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 31 October 2015 12: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: MIKHAN

        You don’t intimidate anyway ...

        Mihan, do you have any conscience left? Or drank it all? Hundreds of people have sorrow, and you throw shit.

        Yes, you are probably right .. hi Here are just condolences, torment yourself to write! A new stage of confrontation begins ... Nobody wants to negotiate directly with Russia ... They are starting to shoot down the "Boeing"! So Aron, we are on opposite sides of the trench! Excuse me .. hi
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 31 October 2015 12: 34 New
          28
          Quote: MIKHAN
          ... Begin to "shoot down"! So Aron, we are on opposite sides of the trench! Excuse me .. hi

          Are you sure you shot down? What is not a technical accident? Why drive the wave?
          Well, and about the trenches, so your front line is far from our borders.
          1. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 31 October 2015 12: 41 New
            14
            Aron, calmly. These are paranoid statements. There are a million versions. And the Egyptians do not yet confirm that this is the plane.
            We have to wait ... And now I apologize for the compatriots.
            1. Baikonur
              Baikonur 31 October 2015 13: 32 New
              -5
              Again - Akhedzhakova! ("Forgive us")
              For what?! For which
              paranoid statements

              No one says that the Israelis or the Americans or anyone else shot down this plane!
              They spoke about the "world" order "", which would at least indirectly affect SIMILAR cases! So what?
              In many other articles, more than 90% of comments - NOT AT ALL ON THE TOPIC! THESE ISOTTUDOVTS THERE "RULE, DISCUSS!
              HERE IS ONE ON STING, COMPASSION, COMPASSION HAD PUSHED AND ALREADY JUMPED WITH SOPLES, SORRY! THERE ARE MORNING, DO NOT DISEASE! WE ARE NOT WITH THEM, WE ARE GOOD, FORGIVE US!

              Already .... !!!
              1. 33 Watcher
                33 Watcher 31 October 2015 13: 57 New
                12
                Where did you see the snot? Did you enjoy listening to the accusations against you from Ukraine right after the Malaysian board disaster? Here. I'm just trying to be objective, and warn us all against likening the public with the Censor. And about paranoia, I understand have suffered a lot lately, sometimes he wedges himself, but I fight with her, and I urge you ...
                1. Baikonur
                  Baikonur 31 October 2015 16: 08 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Aaron Zawi
                  Are you sure you shot down?

                  Quote: Observer 33
                  Did you enjoy listening to the accusations against you from Ukraine right after the Malaysian board disaster?

                  Well, damn it! Well, not about this, today's SAME Boeing speech! AND!
                  Why cherish something!
                  I repeat (minsUIT)
                  No one says that the Israelis or the Americans or anyone else shot down this plane!
                  They spoke about the "world" order "", which, at least indirectly, or even directly affects
                  for the worse on the WORLD
                  Oh, about the Malaysian board over urkainoi, I think EVERYTHING IS UNDERSTANDED (WITHOUT the 1,5-year-old "investigation" of "THESE", about whom MIKHAN said and posted a cartoon!
          2. Asadullah
            Asadullah 31 October 2015 12: 56 New
            +3
            What is not a technical accident?


            That is the question. Here, the results of experts will not be secret. I fully admit that the owners of the board, as usual, were greedy for something. My opinion, for this it is necessary to attract as a deliberate murder.
            1. Simple
              Simple 31 October 2015 21: 01 New
              0
              Quote: Asadullah
              for such it is necessary to attract as for intentional murder.


              It won't be enough

              With a comment vladimirZ (upstream) totally agree.

              Quote: vladimirZ
              The problem in our aviation, rather, not even in the leadership, but in the organization of civil aviation in Russia.
          3. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker 31 October 2015 13: 03 New
            +3
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Well, and about the trenches, so your front line is far from our borders.

            Aron, is there any information from Israeli air services?
            Are there any comments?
            hi
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 31 October 2015 13: 28 New
              23
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              Well, and about the trenches, so your front line is far from our borders.

              Aron, is there any information from Israeli air services?
              Are there any comments?
              hi

              Well, what kind of comments can be in hot pursuit. And so, at the request of Egypt, ours immediately raised a reconnaissance aircraft in order to find the scene of the accident. They offered any help. That's all for now.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 31 October 2015 13: 31 New
                10
                Quote: Aaron Zawi
                And so, at the request of Egypt, ours immediately raised a reconnaissance aircraft in order to find the scene of the accident. They offered any help. That's all for now.

                Thank you.
                And for the help offered.
                And for coverage of events!
                hi
              2. 33 Watcher
                33 Watcher 31 October 2015 14: 01 New
                +4
                Thanks for the help!
              3. atalef
                atalef 31 October 2015 16: 20 New
                11
                A military aircraft of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) assisted Egyptian rescuers in locating the crash site of a Russian plane traveling from Sharm el-Sheikh to St. Petersburg with 224 passengers and crew on board. He crashed this morning, October 31.

                In addition, Israel offered Egypt and Russia additional assistance in accordance with the needs of rescuers.



                "This morning, the Israel Defense Forces assisted in the search by sending a reconnaissance aircraft. Further assistance was also offered to Russia and Egypt, if necessary," the army press service said.

                Judging by the latest information, the Russian plane completely crashed, there were no survivors.

                He fell in the south of El Arish, 105 km from the Israeli city of Eilat.
            2. Neksel
              Neksel 31 October 2015 14: 00 New
              0
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              Well, and about the trenches, so your front line is far from our borders.

              Aron, is there any information from Israeli air services?
              Are there any comments?
              hi


              An article was posted on the debka that the plane was shot down by a iglove rocket.
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 31 October 2015 14: 09 New
                +8
                Quote: Neksel
                An article was posted on the debka that the plane was shot down by a iglove rocket.

                This tragedy is a wonderful "feed" for the Russian "partners" ...
                Speculators on death from the media right now perk up.
              2. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 31 October 2015 14: 19 New
                +9
                Quote: Neksel


                An article was posted on the debka that the plane was shot down by a iglove rocket.

                in Israel, the word Debka has long been associated with the word "jaundice." This is a sump.
              3. miru mir
                miru mir 31 October 2015 16: 58 New
                +6
                Dybke believe-do not respect yourself.
              4. atalef
                atalef 31 October 2015 19: 01 New
                +3
                Quote: Neksel
                An article was posted on the debka that the plane was shot down by a iglove rocket.

                Debka - you know - it's Debka. laughing
                Tomorrow they will write that the plane was shot down by Buk, who was delivered to ISIS by Bandera.
                1. Neksel
                  Neksel 2 November 2015 00: 54 New
                  0
                  Quote: atalef
                  Quote: Neksel
                  An article was posted on the debka that the plane was shot down by a iglove rocket.

                  Debka - you know - it's Debka. laughing
                  Tomorrow they will write that the plane was shot down by Buk, who was delivered to ISIS by Bandera.


                  With all this, they have been repeatedly and exclusively truthful publications. For example, the sale of "Mistrals" to Egypt - they first published in the country.
          4. MIKHAN
            MIKHAN 31 October 2015 13: 19 New
            +1
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: MIKHAN
            ... Begin to "shoot down"! So Aron, we are on opposite sides of the trench! Excuse me .. hi

            Are you sure you shot down? What is not a technical accident? Why drive the wave?
            Well, and about the trenches, so your front line is far from our borders.

            Our trenches are already close ... But they will start to bring down, undermine the peaceful ...! You’re just not quite up to date with Aron! (Your war, compared to our little flower ..)))
          5. dali
            dali 31 October 2015 13: 43 New
            +2
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Are you sure you shot down? What is not a technical accident? Why drive the wave?


            Well, and your colleagues write a little different:
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            The Israeli site walla.co.il published that the plane gained speed 740 km / h and in one second it fell to 172 km / h and at the same time lost contact.

            not an expert, but it seems that such a sharp loss of speed and communication leads to a version of the instant destruction of the aircraft.
            1. dali
              dali 31 October 2015 14: 05 New
              0
              Yes, I made a mistake ... it's not you, but your colleague:
              Quote: Maki Avellevich
              The Israeli site walla.co.il published that the plane gained speed 740 km / h and in one second it fell to 172 km / h and at the same time lost contact.

              not an expert, but it seems that such a sharp loss of speed and communication leads to a version of the instant destruction of the aircraft.
              1. dali
                dali 31 October 2015 14: 08 New
                +2
                By the way, 24 were transmitted across Russia - Flight radar confirms.
          6. BIGLESHIY
            BIGLESHIY 31 October 2015 13: 53 New
            +6
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Quote: Observer2014
            Here is the sixth sense that I feel that without our "partners" it could not have done!

            And my genes "twisted into a knot" ... And I feel this is only the beginning! This method is known among devils!

            You don’t intimidate anyway ...

            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: MIKHAN
            ... Begin to "shoot down"! So Aron, we are on opposite sides of the trench! Excuse me .. hi

            Are you sure you shot down? What is not a technical accident? Why drive the wave?
            Well, and about the trenches, so your front line is far from our borders.

            Let's not get a dog right now and wait for the official version
            investigation.
            The main thing is that the black boxes would not be sent to Holland.
          7. gridasov
            gridasov 31 October 2015 14: 10 New
            10
            You are absolutely right that normal people under the banners of any countries are normal.
          8. Andrey77
            Andrey77 31 October 2015 16: 51 New
            0
            100%. 2 engine at the same time do not fail. Empty tank?
            1. atalef
              atalef 31 October 2015 19: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: Andrey77
              100%. 2 engine at the same time do not fail. Empty tank?

              Come out
              Fire covered all engines. Suddenly, one of them, momentarily increasing speed, stalled. Pilots immediately turned it off. The Boeing 747 was located at an altitude of 11000 meters. But in less than a few minutes, the other three engines also died out.
              Captain: The other three engines shut off almost instantly. The situation has become very serious. We had four engines running and in a minute and a half not a single one remainedb.
              The plane had a large supply of fuel, but for some unknown reason, all the engines stalled. The crew began to send a distress signal. The engines did not supply traction, and the 9 flight began to fall from the sky. The co-pilot tried to report an emergency situation to Jakarta, but the controllers hardly heard it.
              Read more at: http://avia.pro/blog/otkaz-vseh-dvigateley-boeing-747-british-airways-1982
            2. Simple
              Simple 31 October 2015 21: 19 New
              0
              Quote: Andrey77
              100%. 2 engine at the same time do not fail. Empty tank?



              Airbus A400M (disaster in Spain) crashed precisely because of the failure of three engines at once.

              Before departure, they made an update to the control system for each of the three engines.
              As a result, a disaster due to software errors (algorithmic,
              runtime errors, syntax?).
        2. arane
          arane 31 October 2015 17: 58 New
          +5
          Peehan, do not go too far! There is no trench between us and them, and thank God! (I'm talking about Aaron Zaavi)
          I just got from the censor ........
          Remember, recently NATO f18 crashed? Here everyone was happy that the pilot remained alive .....

          It seems that something human was stolen from the Ukrainians ......
      3. Buffalo
        Buffalo 31 October 2015 13: 11 New
        -16
        Conscience?!
        Remember your conscience when your planes and shells fly into Syria.
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 31 October 2015 13: 45 New
          +8
          Quote: Bison
          Remember about conscience when ...

          Do you really think that this topic is the most suitable for bickering? But Aron is right!
          There is a suitable place for everything, but not for bickering. Meaningless. And he alone (Aron) is not guilty of what the authorities of his country are doing.
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  5. Observer2014
    Observer2014 31 October 2015 12: 01 New
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    Aircraft, passenger in 90%, crash during landing and take-off .And at altitude, in 90% of cases due to external influences (if it is shot down) or as a result of a terrorist attack.
    1. Penetrator
      Penetrator 31 October 2015 12: 09 New
      18
      Quote: Observer2014
      90% of cases due to external influences (if they bring him down) or as a result of a terrorist attack.

      That's just how this board got into the remaining 10%, it seems. Well, nafig - you need to rest only in Russia and with railway travel. We do not need Turkish coast and we do not need Africa.
      1. Penetrator
        Penetrator 31 October 2015 12: 32 New
        13
        By the way, the fun of the witty - how come, the so-called Skalsky plane fell! Already poems are written like this:
        It was snowing in the morning in Bydlohrad
        Near the coast of Egypt there was a fallfall.
        Fell there from the sky cattle
        What led a drunk pilot.

        Wide female dogs rejoice! Ducks, damn it, nothing human .. Do you think anyone will bring flowers, candles and soft toys to the Russian embassy in Kiev?
        PS You can safely deny the poetic, I will take a hit on svidomitami myself.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 31 October 2015 12: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: Penetrator
          I will take a hit on Svidomo


          in vain ...
          1. Penetrator
            Penetrator 31 October 2015 12: 44 New
            +1
            Quote: vorobey
            in vain ...

            What is "in vain"? What once again gave you to make sure that there part of the population are full of moral degenerates?
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 31 October 2015 13: 09 New
              +3
              Quote: Penetrator
              that there part of the population are full of moral degenerates?


              Offer us there too? First, start to hate everything Ukrainian? And then after all, we will begin to burn Gogol and Taras Shevchenko, this is a chain reaction, as it already was. Let time have fun throwing stones and time collecting stones ....
              1. Penetrator
                Penetrator 31 October 2015 16: 07 New
                0
                Quote: Vadivak
                Offer us there too? First, start to hate everything Ukrainian

                No way! It’s just that you don’t have to forget this when the Ukrainians, once again crap, wail about the “fraternal Russian people”. I believe such a time will come soon. Do not forget the back of such "brothers" do not substitute.
            2. Lelek
              Lelek 31 October 2015 14: 08 New
              +4
              Quote: Penetrator
              What once again gave you to make sure that there part of the population are full of moral degenerates?


              The other day they called their classmates in Kiev. They graduated from college together, served together, met annually on the graduation day of the college under the Admiralty’s steeple and on you — solid mothers addressed to us (invaders, nonhumans, trash, my ... me, etc.) And they receive a military pension, among others, from us. Well, after the first minute of howling from that side, we disconnected. Here are such things. It’s clear that they didn’t start calling in Ivano-Frankivsk.
            3. vorobey
              vorobey 31 October 2015 16: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: Penetrator
              Quote: vorobey
              in vain ...

              What is "in vain"? What once again gave you to make sure that there part of the population are full of moral degenerates?


              in vain do you take someone else's ... you pay them for it ... there are three Ukrainian citizens on board ...
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        2. Buffalo
          Buffalo 31 October 2015 13: 16 New
          +2
          Nothing! Every dog ​​has his day.
          Bandera we still remember this. Fortunately, everything is recorded on the Internet.
        3. veteran66
          veteran66 31 October 2015 21: 36 New
          0
          Quote: Penetrator
          Do you think anyone will bring flowers, candles and soft toys to the Russian embassy in Kiev?

          Already bear ....
        4. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 31 October 2015 23: 24 New
          +3
          Today I had to read a lot of things from them ... Geeks. I won’t swear! We need to send all this scribble to the Kremlin so that they don’t try to talk more about the “brotherly people” ... It's like telling a maniac about ethics ... it's useless and stupid ...
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 31 October 2015 14: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Penetrator
        Well, nafig - you need to rest only in Russia and with railway travel. We do not need Turkish coast and we do not need Africa.

        Type of train Yekaterinburg - Adler?
        Damn, the fall began again ...... The morning began with the call of all vacationers ...
        Eternal memory to the fallen.
      3. Observer2014
        Observer2014 31 October 2015 18: 39 New
        +2
        Penetrator
        You’re a colleague who’s very fast about 10%. Can’t you find this? Personally, I have a vague doubt about this.
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 31 October 2015 12: 12 New
      +7
      Quote: Observer2014
      And on top



      A series of "accidents" ...

      One Malaysian Boeing disappeared ... The second one fell from the sky of Donbass ... Now our "passenger" is in the sky of Egypt, and in an area controlled by some anti-government militants ...

      It remains only to express condolences to the relatives and hope that this incident is an unfortunate, unforeseen accident ...
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 31 October 2015 13: 39 New
        +3
        Quote: veksha50
        Now our “passenger” is in the sky of Egypt, and in an area controlled by some anti-government militants ...

        Sorry, but that immediately after takeoff, the pilot began to complain about the engine, you have not heard. You have no idea that the aircraft commander requested an emergency landing in Cairo, I was hoping to get there. Why talk about something that you don’t really know?
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 31 October 2015 14: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: Hedgehog
          Why talk about something that you don’t really know?



          Hedgehog, but what, my last phrase to read the lack of time was ???

          Or pulling phrases out of context and interpreting them in their own way is a sign of good upbringing and reliable awareness ???

          PS Excuse me, but did you read a lot of contradictory, unconfirmed news that immediately surfaced on news feeds ??? So who do you blame for false information - me or the media ???
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 31 October 2015 15: 11 New
            0
            Quote: veksha50
            So who do you blame for false information - me or the media ???

            The one who wrote:
            A series of "accidents" ...
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 31 October 2015 14: 36 New
          +1
          Failure of one engine does not matter for an aircraft with two engines of increased power.
          1. Andrey77
            Andrey77 31 October 2015 17: 00 New
            +1
            No problem. The destruction of the airframe - but this is only a terrorist attack.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 31 October 2015 16: 09 New
        0
        Quote: veksha50
        moreover, in an area controlled by some anti-government militants ...

        The Sinai Peninsula is completely controlled by government forces. hi
    3. avt
      avt 31 October 2015 12: 17 New
      15
      Quote: Observer2014
      A.A at a height, in 90% of cases due to external influences (if it is knocked down) or as a result of a terrorist attack.

      Quote: INVESTOR
      They wrote an old airplane, for more than 20 years, there could well be a technology failure.

      18 years passed, like Lebanon, then Turkey, then Kogalymavia .... well, and if you recall that small air carriers bought at one time sold to China and flew there Tu -154 .... request In short - from 9000 meters - the smallest it could be removed there either by very specific air defense, which only Egypt and Israel have, or by an act of sabotage during maintenance, but it’s very likely that the aircraft of a low-budget, charter company simply had to refuse equipment, which you just need to close. My condolences to the relatives of those whose loved ones died in a catastrophe, who perished in the kingdom of heaven, may the Lord rest their Souls. To the slappers that rejoice in the deaths of peaceful, innocent citizens, and especially children I wish all that they rejoice in double size, I'm not greedy , let fate and rock be measured even in triple.
    4. Andrey77
      Andrey77 31 October 2015 16: 58 New
      0
      To bring down such a fool from one MANPADS is unrealistic. The attack comes out.
  6. 79807420129
    79807420129 31 October 2015 12: 03 New
    14
    Quote: Observer2014
    Here is the sixth sense that I feel that without our "partners" it could not have done!

    I feel sorry for the people, let the land rest in peace for them, to our relatives sincerely our condolences, 224 people of sorrow. I will figure it out, I think the reason I hope.
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 31 October 2015 12: 16 New
      11
      Lord, if it is so sincerely sympathizing with all the relatives of the victims, let the earth rest in peace for the lost, we grieve for you, but hope dies last painfully contradictory information in the morning.
  7. INVESTOR
    INVESTOR 31 October 2015 12: 09 New
    +1
    They wrote an old airplane, for more than 20 years, there could well be a technology failure. Eternal memory to the fallen.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 31 October 2015 17: 02 New
      +1
      2 engines SIMULTANEOUSLY? On a regular flight?
  8. Ilnarturk
    Ilnarturk 31 October 2015 12: 13 New
    +1
    What was said ???
  9. dr.star75
    dr.star75 31 October 2015 13: 05 New
    +4
    Yes, nafik. I do not believe that they shot down.
  10. Starley from the south
    Starley from the south 31 October 2015 14: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: Observer2014
    Here is the sixth sense that I feel that without our "partners" it could not have done!

    Unlikely. For MANPADS the plane went too high - 9 km, if you shoot it with an air-to-air missile (by the way, what is the range of firing of such missiles at our probable ... partners?), Then the fighter could detect Egyptian air defense. The launch of a ground-to-air missile to destroy ballistic targets would also not go unnoticed. The use of electronic warfare systems would also not have gone unnoticed, although I strongly doubt that our “partners” have sufficiently effective such means.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 31 October 2015 17: 03 New
      +1
      The attack. Do not go to the grandmother.
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 31 October 2015 23: 29 New
        +3
        I leave the topic. Erasing the unknown to at least some kind of official conclusions is useless.
  11. Tor5
    Tor5 31 October 2015 14: 54 New
    0
    Eternal memory and earth rest in peace to the fallen ....
  12. Dr dron
    Dr dron 31 October 2015 15: 45 New
    +4
    Remove the photo of Aeroflot from the article.

    METROJET EI-ETJ A321

    My condolences...
    1. Dr dron
      Dr dron 31 October 2015 15: 48 New
      0
      Aircraft data
      1. Dr dron
        Dr dron 31 October 2015 15: 50 New
        +2
        In which airlines and when was it operated?
  13. Observer2014
    Observer2014 31 October 2015 16: 12 New
    +1
    16-00 we make the first conclusion.
    Suddenly, a Russian plane with Russians on board disappeared from the radar screens. Not one, it was just one media in the world that didn’t blame that the attack was possible or it was shot down, for example, the Israelis. Question, why?
    Now remember the Boeing last summer over the Donbass!
  14. Homo
    Homo 31 October 2015 17: 54 New
    +5
    Quote: Observer2014
    Here is the sixth sense that I feel that without our "partners" it could not have done!

    Hardly! This is an "overripe" problem with dwarf airlines! They have neither money for repairs, nor for maintenance, nor for new (original) spare parts. So we have what we have!
    1. avt
      avt 31 October 2015 18: 37 New
      0
      Quote: Homo
      This is an "overripe" problem with dwarf airlines! They have neither money for repairs, nor for maintenance, nor for new (original) spare parts. So we have what we have!

      YES!!! Just remember what howl rose when these hell / chart with one plane raised the bar to have at least 5 airplanes! Just howled - strangling business? Oh wei - there will be unemployed people and all the transportation will get up! Truly, the teachings of Marx / Levy are immortal, because it is true - there is no crime that the capitalist would not have committed at 300% profit!
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 31 October 2015 19: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: Homo
      nor on new (original) spare parts.

      ... here from this place, please, in more detail.
      Where are the supremely reliable liberal planes delivered by the non-original?
      Uncle Vasya garage in the West are not found, or kaG?
  15. Styx
    Styx 1 November 2015 02: 56 New
    0
    Sorry to wedge in, and perhaps this version has already been sent here, but I leafed through as much as I could - I could not find it. She herself just copied it, I just throw it over here, for no reason .....
    --------------------------------------
    "... By the way, it was mentioned somewhere that this particular machine" caught tail-strike "10-15 years ago.
    And there was a similar case (even in the series about the crash investigation, this story was removed) when somewhere in the vastness of China under heaven (either among the Reds, or from the Chiang Kai-shek), after poor repair, the consequences of it made themselves felt almost 20 years later (and people died) .31 / 10/2015 [22:01:12] "

    "The Boeing 747 crash over the Taiwan Strait - a plane crash that occurred on May 25, 2002. The China Airlines Boeing 747-209B airliner, flying the CI 611 (call sign - Dynasty 611) on the Taipei - Hong Kong route, fell into the Taiwan Strait, lounging back in All 225 people on board were killed.
    On February 7, 1980, 22 years before the crash, while landing at a Hong Kong airport, the plane hit the runway with its tail. Subsequently, the tail was repaired and the aircraft continued to fly. "
    From "Fontanka"

    -----------------------------------

    The kingdom of heaven to the lost .......
  • Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 31 October 2015 11: 52 New
    11
    Who writes what. That "fell-disappeared," like the dispatchers in Turkey contacted him. Who to believe then?

    If the plane really died - people feel sorry. May the earth, as they say, rest in peace.

    I’m not sure that the “partners” are pushing so hard to bring down a civilian plane of a nuclear power. No need to catch up with the guys horror.

    It seems like an online broadcast of events with Airbas ...
    http://cont.ws/post/141552

    If something excuse me for not accuracy
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      2. Hairy Siberian
        Hairy Siberian 31 October 2015 12: 04 New
        +3
        Something on your photo doesn’t say “Kogalymavia” at all.
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 31 October 2015 12: 07 New
          +3
          Quote: Hairy Siberian
          Something on your photo doesn’t say “Kogalymavia” at all.

          already read, deleted - written like Astana - I apologize.
      3. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 31 October 2015 12: 06 New
        +3
        Photo of a Kazakhstan airliner.
      4. Rebus
        Rebus 31 October 2015 12: 10 New
        +1
        This is a photo of a Boeing 777 crash in San Francisco.
        http://topwar.ru/30537-katastrofa-boeing-777-v-san-francisko-foto.html
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 31 October 2015 12: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir
      I’m not sure that the “partners” are pushing so hard to bring down a civilian plane of a nuclear power



      These "partners" are so obstinate that you can expect anything from them ... Have you forgotten the phrase either to Kerry or Carter that Russian planes will soon fall from the sky ???

      They paid the Bashibuzuks, provided weapons, and they themselves remained on the sidelines ...
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 31 October 2015 12: 53 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir
      Who writes what. That "fell-disappeared," like the dispatchers in Turkey contacted him. Who to believe then?

      Already I think there is really no doubt that he fell
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 31 October 2015 22: 46 New
        +1
        Today I read at the local forum, the two dead from our city ........ Condolences
  • vorobey
    vorobey 31 October 2015 11: 53 New
    +5
    media write that the crew complained about the engine In Sharm El Sheikh ...
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 31 October 2015 11: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: vorobey
      media write that the crew complained about the engine In Sharm El Sheikh ...

      There is another version:
      "Shortly before the disappearance from the radar, a Russian plane requested a landing at the nearest airport. According to sources at the Cairo international airport, the airliner was at an altitude of more than 9000 meters when the ship commander contacted the controllers and requested a landing due to a radio station breakdown. After that, the connection was lost."
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 31 October 2015 12: 21 New
        +2
        First a communication problem, and then an accident? Strange coincidence.
    2. SSR
      SSR 31 October 2015 12: 09 New
      11
      Quote: vorobey
      media write that the crew complained about the engine In Sharm El Sheikh ...

      Kogalym air, about 5 serious incidents over 5 years, 3 accidents, one of which is under the control of another company.
      S7 about 5 serious for 15 years of them ......
      In general, small companies, in pursuit of profit, drive planes to accumulate the maximum number of "problems" ... Maybe the SSI will go to the forum.
      PS
      Transaero was not the cheapest and largest company, but it was an order of magnitude better than all the kogalyms and other aviation ... Even the daughters of Aeroflot .... (Although the daughter herself).
      1. avt
        avt 31 October 2015 12: 38 New
        +2
        Quote: SSR
        Kogalym air, about 5 serious incidents over 5 years, 3 accidents, one of which is under the control of another company.

        As a keepsake - it was at this company that the Tu-154 was burning on the strip in Russia
        Quote: SSR
        In general, small companies, in pursuit of profit, drive planes to accumulate the maximum number of "problems" ...

        Not companies, but compasses, the same Kogalymavia had only five aircraft.
        1. dr.star75
          dr.star75 31 October 2015 19: 02 New
          +1
          I’m certainly not a complete proletariat. But such events make me wonder: maybe not everything needs to be transferred to private hands? Maybe Lenin was right: the small private owner, the main state
          1. SSR
            SSR 31 October 2015 19: 21 New
            +1
            Quote: dr.star75
            I’m certainly not a complete proletariat. But such events make me wonder: maybe not everything needs to be transferred to private hands? Maybe Lenin was right: the small private owner, the main state

            And you just think .... After the collapse of the USSR, how many republics appeared .... So our all sorts of kogalyms have air ... There are more catastrophes than all the republics taken together !!!! Private and small companies in the Russian Federation have reduced our aviation to the level of "Honduras". Statistics.
            1. dr.star75
              dr.star75 31 October 2015 21: 54 New
              0
              yes I understand everything
          2. Bayun
            Bayun 31 October 2015 23: 25 New
            0
            Private traders are simply not able to properly resolve a serious international: airplanes, sea vessels, etc. There, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs needs to connect both special services and "partners." The private trader simply does not have such potential.
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 31 October 2015 13: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: vorobey
      media write that the crew complained about the engine In Sharm El Sheikh ...

      12:46 Source: Egyptian services did not inspect the collapsed A321 before departure
      The Egyptian engineering services at Sharm el-Sheikh airport did not inspect the Russian airliner of the Kogalymavia company.
      Inspection of the vessel, according to him, was carried out by engineers of the Russian carrier company.
      “Our services at the airport did not inspect this airliner. This airline has its own engineers, who fly and independently inspect their aircraft,” a source told RIA Novosti.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 31 October 2015 15: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: Bayonet
        Quote: vorobey
        media write that the crew complained about the engine In Sharm El Sheikh ...

        12:46 Source: Egyptian services did not inspect the collapsed A321 before departure
        The Egyptian engineering services at Sharm el-Sheikh airport did not inspect the Russian airliner of the Kogalymavia company.
        Inspection of the vessel, according to him, was carried out by engineers of the Russian carrier company.
        “Our services at the airport did not inspect this airliner. This airline has its own engineers, who fly and independently inspect their aircraft,” a source told RIA Novosti.


        Eyewitnesses reported that the plane was still burning in the air. Http://izvestia.ru/news/594546

        Read on: http://izvestia.ru/news/594546#ixzz3q9IpbmLB
      2. Rus2012
        Rus2012 31 October 2015 19: 17 New
        +1
        the crew complained about the engine in Sharm El Sheikh

        ... anhidritvashumat, there is such a thing, the "Regulation" is called, which lists all the malfunctions or failures in which flights are allowed. If they go beyond - flights are not made, otherwise TURMA!
        And nowhere and never heard that someone violated it ...
  • Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 31 October 2015 11: 54 New
    -16
    Coalition? They can’t take the DRYS, they have filled up the bobik?
    1. pv1005
      pv1005 31 October 2015 12: 08 New
      12
      Quote: armored optimist
      Coalition? They can’t take the DRYS, they have filled up the bobik?

      What are you dear about? Or a glimpse of consciousness after Friday night?
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 31 October 2015 13: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: pv1005
        Or a glimpse of consciousness after Friday night?

        It seems that everything is much more serious there ...
        1. Armored optimist
          Armored optimist 31 October 2015 13: 45 New
          -2
          Already there were statements on various channels about the possibility of a terrorist attack. What do you not understand then?
          Or do you see devils in the corners? Or did the word bobby outrage you? It's to blame, there is an airbus, so it’s not a bobby but a watermelon. Jargon in airlines like that.
          1. pv1005
            pv1005 31 October 2015 19: 22 New
            0
            Quote: armored optimist
            Already there were statements on various channels about the possibility of a terrorist attack. What do you not understand then?
            Or do you see devils in the corners? Or did the word bobby outrage you? It's to blame, there is an airbus, so it’s not a bobby but a watermelon. Jargon in airlines like that.

            So who is to blame, terrorists or technology? request You already decide on one option. recourse
            Representatives of many professions are present on the site, and if everyone starts talking in jargon (and whoever speaks with a hairdryer), the Tower of Babel will turn out. Speak a language that everyone understands, well, or to the majority; nobody will say a word to you. hi
            1. Armored optimist
              Armored optimist 31 October 2015 20: 40 New
              +2
              Am I somewhere on the technique? Can you read? In the message you did not like the two question marks. An assumption is made, not a statement. By the way ONE !, not two. There is nothing to be determined.
              And after that, you say, about my hard Friday?
              For the rest of the ministers, what did you dislike about the assumption that the coalition was involved in the disaster? Did I say something immoral or unpatriotic? Or was it expressed by 20 American defenders? Then I am proud that I spat in their souls.
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  • avvg
    avvg 31 October 2015 11: 54 New
    18
    People feel sorry for those killed in the plane crash. Let the earth rest in peace.
  • Dr. Livesey
    Dr. Livesey 31 October 2015 11: 55 New
    +5
    Again trouble. How sorry for the people. There are probably no survivors ...
  • Hairy Siberian
    Hairy Siberian 31 October 2015 11: 57 New
    +2
    Here they write that the missing plane got in touch:
    http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2681614&tid=108965
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 31 October 2015 12: 03 New
      +4
      Quote: Hairy Siberian
      Here they write that the missing plane got in touch:
      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2681614&tid=108965

      I don’t understand either. Some say they are collecting debris. Others that he flies. Let's hope that it flies and flies.
      1. TT62
        TT62 31 October 2015 12: 21 New
        +6
        Freedom of the media, whoever wants to write something. Cattle on the mountain Babos earn.
  • sds87
    sds87 31 October 2015 12: 00 New
    +5
    Already one stuffing went. There is a chatter in all the media. One "expert" says one thing, the other another. Only one thing is clear - you can’t catch the truth. Only the official version ...
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 31 October 2015 12: 01 New
    16
    It was at an altitude of 9000 meters. From MANPADS - not get it. We need something more serious. Yes, and there was a failure of the equipment, requested a landing. Awful of all this, people from leisure flew. My condolences to family and friends.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 31 October 2015 12: 06 New
      13
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It was at an altitude of 9000 meters. From MANPADS - not get it. We need something more serious. Yes, and there was a failure of the equipment, requested a landing. Awful of all this, people from leisure flew. My condolences to family and friends.

      Yeah. Woe Condolences to all the relatives of the victims.
    2. Andrey77
      Andrey77 31 October 2015 17: 07 New
      +2
      Inside it exploded. Then stone down. A black box will show. This is definitely not MANPADS.
  • tomket
    tomket 31 October 2015 12: 03 New
    +7
    Condolences to the families and friends of the deceased.
  • tomket
    tomket 31 October 2015 12: 05 New
    +1
    Intersno, howling and wringing hands about the fact that we are flying on European trash from the liberals hear ???
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 31 October 2015 13: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: tomket
      Intersno, howling and wringing hands about the fact that we are flying on European trash from the liberals hear ???

      Of course, HEAR! But not in this country and not in this life!
      1. Banshee
        Banshee 31 October 2015 16: 55 New
        +1
        Will hear. Here. Tomorrow.
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    3. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 31 October 2015 14: 24 New
      -1
      Sure! And we’ll hear that this is certainly a terrorist attack, and Putin is to blame for his “invasion” of Syria. Yes, burn them in hell, let them want to carry. The kingdom of heaven is for the lost, and God grant the relatives the strength to survive ... God grant us all.
  • Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 31 October 2015 12: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: Observer2014
    Aircraft, passenger in 90%, crash during landing and take-off .And at altitude, in 90% of cases due to external influences (if it is shot down) or as a result of a terrorist attack.
  • Old26
    Old26 31 October 2015 12: 08 New
    11
    Quote: Dr. Livesey
    Again trouble. How sorry for the people. There are probably no survivors ...

    The Egyptians say that it seems like not. And guys, well, let's not at least fool around in such sad news: they shot down, let's take dryers. There was a plane crash, people died, and some of the guilty were appointed ...

    My condolences to family and friends ... crying
  • sabakina
    sabakina 31 October 2015 12: 11 New
    +1
    About 40 minutes ago, on autoradio, I heard the news that the crew got in touch. If you find the wreckage, then who got in touch?
    1. tomket
      tomket 31 October 2015 12: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: sabakina
      40 minutes ago on autoradio I heard the news that the crew got in touch

      Apparently autoradio and got into touch. In general, now the quality of the media leaves much to be desired, and therefore such strange news appears ....
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 31 October 2015 12: 57 New
        +5
        By the way, I like Avtoradio less and less, in terms of political orientation. Makar sings songs there, comes to the studio ...
  • roskot
    roskot 31 October 2015 12: 11 New
    +1
    It is not yet clear. We will wait for the news.
  • Mihail55
    Mihail55 31 October 2015 12: 12 New
    +2
    If all true, condolences to those close to you. Everlasting memory!
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 31 October 2015 12: 13 New
    0
    All the same, the plane crashed.
  • Abakan
    Abakan 31 October 2015 12: 16 New
    0
    Quote: Vladimir
    I’m not sure that the “partners” are pushing so hard to bring down a civilian plane of a nuclear power. No need to catch up with the guys horror.

    they are not stubborn but stupid creatures
    !
  • cte-power
    cte-power 31 October 2015 12: 23 New
    +1
    why is there an aeroflot airplane in the photo?
  • Diviz
    Diviz 31 October 2015 12: 24 New
    -3
    While we will fly on imported equipment there will be no one to kick at. How could a plane disappear without an emergency. That he was hit by a UFO.
  • sabakina
    sabakina 31 October 2015 12: 27 New
    +2
    Are there pilots among us?
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 31 October 2015 13: 15 New
      +1
      And for what a minus? I wanted to ask those who fly / flew, what do flyers do in an emergency?
      1. Stas57
        Stas57 31 October 2015 13: 28 New
        +2
        I put a minus.

        from 5 of your comments there is not one expressing condolences
        Quote: sabakina
        Are there pilots among us?

        Quote: sabakina
        And for what a minus? I wanted to ask those who fly / flew, what do flyers do in an emergency?

        Quote: sabakina
        By the way, I like Avtoradio less and less, in terms of political orientation. Makar sings songs there, comes to the studio ...

        Quote: sabakina
        If your handouts are correct, then I also ask why the crew did not have time to turn on the SOS?



        people died, children died, and you came here to fool about, discuss the versions and try autoradio.
        rotten man ...
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 31 October 2015 14: 25 New
          +1
          STAS 57 .... My mom's name is HOPE. Hope dies last. What are you accusing me of? I want to believe that I’m alive !!! As with the "Kursk" !!! Minus to you from me !!!
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 31 October 2015 15: 15 New
            +1
            Well, who put the minus? You were there? Passports issued? Debris filmed on camera? You can minus, but I will believe!
            And off topic. It is interesting to compare the place of the fall1 ... Well, you yourself know what ...
  • Stas57
    Stas57 31 October 2015 12: 29 New
    14
    condolences.



    and I beg you, all the sofa experts from aviation do not dance on their bones and do not put forth delusions with regards to the reason.
    have advice ...
    1. Stas57
      Stas57 31 October 2015 17: 40 New
      +3
      oh, sorry, they removed that branch where one activist did not care about the dead

      wanted to poke him in a nickel so that he told them
      Photos before boarding the 9268 flight. The woman took a picture of her husband and child, signed: “Goodbye, Egypt. We are flying home ”



      once again condolences
  • beer-youk
    beer-youk 31 October 2015 12: 30 New
    +4
    The blessed memory of the innocent martyrs and condolences to their loved ones.
  • bashmak
    bashmak 31 October 2015 12: 31 New
    -47
    Who could fly from Egypt at this time? I was going to work. No pity!
    1. Bijo
      Bijo 31 October 2015 13: 04 New
      15
      Quote: bashmak
      Who could fly from Egypt at this time? I was going to work. No pity!

      You are sick ? or just m.r.a.s. Those flew who were able to take a vacation at this time, and if they crashed when you were on vacation, for example, in July, then you feel sorry? People flew, your compatriots died, so what are you going to work for, that you make a great feat - do you go to work? How old are you zh.i.v.o.t.no.e?
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 31 October 2015 13: 55 New
        +2
        Quote: Bijo
        You are sick ? or just m.r.a.s.

        He’s just a shoe ... and that’s it. fool
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 31 October 2015 16: 37 New
        0
        Quote: Bijo
        Those flew who were able to take a vacation at this time



        And, by the way, far from rich people ... Oligarchs in ancient watermelons do not fly to Egypt to rest ...
    2. moskowit
      moskowit 31 October 2015 13: 10 New
      +1
      Are you serious? Is there really not a drop of compassion in you?
    3. Stas57
      Stas57 31 October 2015 13: 11 New
      15
      I propose to ask the administration to be banned here, you have confused the resource with the censor and the ear of the matzi; everything is hanging out there
      Quote: bashmak
      bashmak (2) Today, 12: 31
      Who could fly from Egypt at this time? I was going to work. No pity!

      sincerely it is a pity that parents did not put simple thoughts into their heads, well, maybe even life is driving them into it ...
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 31 October 2015 13: 12 New
        11
        Quote: Stas57
        I propose to ask the administration to be banned here, you have confused the resource with the censor and the ear of the matzi; everything is hanging out there

        SUPPORT!
      2. Bekas1967
        Bekas1967 31 October 2015 13: 34 New
        +3
        Stake him in the opera drive ...
    4. sds87
      sds87 31 October 2015 13: 11 New
      +5
      I feel sorry for the people around you. Such selfishness has turned you into a moral monster.
    5. kepmor
      kepmor 31 October 2015 14: 11 New
      +3
      You G.N.I.D.A. by chance "plusanul !! VERY SORRY that I personally can’t give you in your disgusting X, A, P, Yu!
      1. Rader
        Rader 31 October 2015 16: 11 New
        0
        Come on gentlemen! Maybe a man and the truth sick. So you can bring a person to suicide (this is quite serious). And here Stas57 business says there is such a thing as Report Site Violation. Just similar phrases
        Stake him in the opera drive ...
        , well ... as it were, too, "not entirely correct"
        And to the lost, let the earth be rest in peace for you ...
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  • chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 31 October 2015 12: 32 New
    0
    It is regrettable and tragic! But this is WAR, guys .... Putin two years ago warned: rest at home. Recommendations on abstinence then foreign tourism for security officials and government officials are not casual. Condolences to the relatives of the victims .... Knowledgeable people from the authorities this summer did not recommend that I personally go with my family to the Middle and Middle East, including Turkey. And about the Crimea spoke out clearly possible!
    1. avt
      avt 31 October 2015 12: 40 New
      +4
      Quote: chelovektapok
      It is regrettable and tragic! But this is WAR, guys .... Putin two years ago warned: rest at home.

      wassat Again
      Quote: avt
      As a keepsake - it was at this company that the Tu-154 was burning on the strip in Russia
    2. 0255
      0255 31 October 2015 12: 43 New
      +3
      Quote: chelovektapok
      It is regrettable and tragic! But this is WAR, guys .... Putin two years ago warned: rest at home. Recommendations on abstinence then foreign tourism for security officials and government officials are not casual. Condolences to the relatives of the victims .... Knowledgeable people from the authorities this summer did not recommend that I personally go with my family to the Middle and Middle East, including Turkey. And about the Crimea spoke out clearly possible!

      Where is the confidence that the plane was shot down, as if the planes did not fall to the Crimea and Syria ...
  • sledge
    sledge 31 October 2015 12: 41 New
    +7
    Awful Lump in the throat. Condolences to the relatives of the victims
    1. Bijo
      Bijo 31 October 2015 13: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: Sanya
      Awful Lump in the throat. Condolences to the relatives of the victims

      Now I need to go to Pulkovo, imagine what’s going on there!
  • uralvam
    uralvam 31 October 2015 12: 41 New
    +3
    Everything is clear with this fall. Mathematics:
    take-off and climb speed approx. 250 km / h
    climb speed approx. 15 m / s
    flight duration until disappearance 23 min.
    question: at what altitude and distance from the take-off point was the plane?
    answer: approx. 5-700 m and 5-800 km
    the height of the mountains in the southern Sinai is 2000-2200 m.
    the height of Stinger’s defeat according to official TTX is 3m, unofficial 800-5m (fact - Gardez 000 AN-7 per 000m).
    Draw your own conclusions ...
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 31 October 2015 12: 59 New
      +1
      If your handouts are correct, then I also ask why the crew did not have time to turn on the SOS?
      1. dali
        dali 31 October 2015 14: 19 New
        -1
        Quote: sabakina
        If your handouts are correct, then I also ask why the crew did not have time to turn on the SOS?


        1) Engine malfunction does not cancel that which could bring down.
        2) Engine malfunction may be one of the reasons for the reduction to MANPADS lesions.
        3) Already, the flight radar confirmed a sudden drop in speed from 740km to 172km ...
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 31 October 2015 14: 49 New
          +3
          Your quote:
          Engine malfunction not cancel of what they could bring down.

          1. I try to check what I wrote.
          2. Have you been there a "black box" ????
          1. dali
            dali 31 October 2015 15: 06 New
            0
            Quote: sabakina
            1. I try to check what I wrote.
            2. Have you been there a "black box" ????

            Well, in this case I wanted to write "does not cancel" - a typo, I did not check recourse .

            Was I a black box ?! Those. you do not distinguish the assumption from the statement ?! belay
            So, until there is a decryption, the assumption remains valid.
            1. sabakina
              sabakina 31 October 2015 15: 22 New
              +2
              I remember, my father went for a jump ... The plane caught fire in the air .... My mom was told about this state of emergency ... My father was called before landing to the authorities ..... I gave my parachute to another .... who is minus me I want to say, there are miracles in this life ....
              1. dali
                dali 31 October 2015 15: 52 New
                0
                Quote: sabakina
                Those who are minus me want to say, there are miracles in this life ....
                With your rating, pay attention to a couple of minuses ... so on the contrary, you need to be happy that your opinion is alive (someone likes it, someone doesn't - it's quite a normal situation).
                1. sabakina
                  sabakina 31 October 2015 16: 03 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Dali
                  Quote: sabakina
                  Those who are minus me want to say, there are miracles in this life ....
                  With your rating, pay attention to a couple of minuses ... so on the contrary, you need to be happy that your opinion is alive (someone likes it, someone doesn't - it's quite a normal situation).

                  Thank! For it was ... the whole family was sitting in front of the TV .... And he, my darling father, was sitting in Ivanovo, waiting for loading ....
    2. Victor1
      Victor1 31 October 2015 13: 06 New
      +1
      I don’t think they shot down:
      1. The pilot contacted before the fall and requested a landing in Qatar, i.e. the malfunction was already there and he thought where to sit closer, because in his opinion it was impossible to fly to the destination.
      2. There is evidence that the pilots of this aircraft complained about the engines for about a week, but still flew on it.
      3. If it was shot down, the debris can be installed.
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 31 October 2015 14: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: uralvam
      Everything is clear with this fall. Mathematics:

      Where do you damn such mathematicians come from? You nevermind that the plane actually went to 9000 thousand! I clicked and everything is clear request
      1. dali
        dali 31 October 2015 15: 17 New
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        Where do you damn such mathematicians come from? You nevermind that the plane actually went to 9000 thousand! I clicked and everything is clear

        We should look at a graph of changes in flight speed - at what altitude was the decrease in speed from 740 to 172 ... maybe 740 was no longer at an altitude of 9000 m (media are actively writing about pilots' complaints about engines) ...
        1. dali
          dali 31 October 2015 15: 32 New
          0
          There could be a terrorist attack ... a bomb in the luggage compartment ... I also heard on TV ...
  • skazochnik
    skazochnik 31 October 2015 12: 43 New
    +3
    It's too early to draw conclusions, be patient.
  • KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 31 October 2015 12: 43 New
    -3
    How long will Russians rest in the west when there are many places in the CIS?
    1. 31R-US
      31R-US 31 October 2015 14: 40 New
      0
      Buy a globe
  • skazochnik
    skazochnik 31 October 2015 12: 45 New
    +5
    It's too early to draw conclusions, be patient.
  • Petrov the son
    Petrov the son 31 October 2015 12: 47 New
    +1
    We grieve ... I am sorry for the family and friends.
  • Oslyabya
    Oslyabya 31 October 2015 12: 49 New
    +2
    Condolences to all who suffered the loss ...
  • Ilya77
    Ilya77 31 October 2015 12: 52 New
    +5
    Oh, what a day, two of our aircraft crashed - Mig-31 and now this one ... sincerely sorry for the dead, it’s scary to fly now. They covered Transaero, I mostly flew their airplanes, there were at least less airplanes there, and now someone will start to carry whatever they got ....
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 31 October 2015 13: 34 New
      0
      Transaero ruined the greed of leadership. Mindlessly bought new planes, hoping to increase profits, and then - a bummer, passenger traffic fell. The result is bankruptcy.
      1. Ilya77
        Ilya77 31 October 2015 16: 41 New
        +3
        Quote: Bison
        Transaero ruined the greed of leadership. Mindlessly bought new planes, hoping to increase profits, and then - a bummer, passenger traffic fell. The result is bankruptcy.

        They at least bought new ones, and this Kogalymavia operates 5-6 boards, in what condition.
  • rustyle_nvrsk
    rustyle_nvrsk 31 October 2015 12: 52 New
    +4
    Killed 224 Russians. This is national mourning. Mourn ...
  • Victor1
    Victor1 31 October 2015 12: 53 New
    +8
    I don’t understand the civil aviation pilots, they complained about the engine for a week, but still they flew on this trash. After all, you are not carrying wood, but people who, without the slightest idea, in what condition the plane is.
    As long as our companies continue to use decommissioned Western trash, such events will periodically occur. But the state should control and give priority in the use of domestic aviation.
    It’s a pity for people, they die in whole families because of the mediocrity and greed of all creatures ..
    1. olegfbi
      olegfbi 31 October 2015 13: 30 New
      17
      It’s possible to understand the pilots, albeit difficult!
      They complained about the engine! But in a mess of private airlines they were pressured ... they were forced to fly, most likely under the threat of a fine, deprivation of an award, dismissal with a wolf ticket, etc.
      As for the "decommissioned Western trash," this is true but not all true! Aircraft are transferred from company to company for many reasons, from the end of leasing to the restructuring of the fleet due to a change in the route network.
      The plane was 18 years old! This is not so much, and much older cars fly, and under the flag of VERY respected and well-known airlines.
      The problem is not the age of the board, but the timeliness and quality of service and maintenance! And with all sorts of kogalyms ... BIG problem, because they save on everything !!!

      THE LAND IN THE FALL OF ALL DIED !!!
  • Rusich1980
    Rusich1980 31 October 2015 12: 53 New
    +9
    I just express my condolences to all the relatives and friends of our fallen compatriots ... May the earth rest in peace ...
    And as for the scammers, I’ll say this. They rejoiced at the bombing and mortar shelling of Donbass. We were happy when last year in Donetsk on September XNUMX children were killed by mines falling ... Therefore, there is no surprise that they will make a public holiday with dances and free distribution of cookies on this occasion. If their plane crashed, they would have shouted in all the media that this was the Kremlin’s and GDP’s business. Inhumans, in a word ...
  • Ivan Ivanovich
    Ivan Ivanovich 31 October 2015 12: 53 New
    +3
    Accept condolences, there is nothing more to say here ...
  • Rigla
    Rigla 31 October 2015 12: 55 New
    +1
    At ukroforumy universal fun fool
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 October 2015 14: 42 New
      0
      They will begin the fun when they begin to search for their relatives participating in the ATO.
  • Koshak
    Koshak 31 October 2015 12: 55 New
    +2
    I went to the censor, read the comments on this topic. Fuck, as rummaged in manure. Urgent shower.
    1. Denis DV
      Denis DV 31 October 2015 13: 45 New
      +4
      It’s necessary to go to the censor, to ignore the goats. Do not they need to raise attendance!
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 31 October 2015 12: 57 New
    +3
    Disasters, no matter in which country they occur, always bring only grief. Therefore, condolences to the families and friends of the victims. I hope that this disaster will be sorted out quickly, because the investigation will be conducted by our country with the Egyptian side. And then we'll talk about the reasons.
  • gg.na
    gg.na 31 October 2015 13: 02 New
    +1
    At first they write that the plane disappeared .... After they write that they found: http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1559004/ And a little later they again write that fragments of the fallen have already been found what the plane! Kaleidoscope of events right there !!! belay
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  • Old26
    Old26 31 October 2015 13: 02 New
    +1
    Quote: Observer2014
    Aircraft, passenger in 90%, crash during landing and take-off .And at altitude, in 90% of cases due to external influences (if it is shot down) or as a result of a terrorist attack.

    Or de again as a result of a technical malfunction. Engine or control system failure. And the destruction of missiles or terrorist attacks can be counted on the fingers
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 31 October 2015 14: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: Old26
      Engine or control system failure.

      The control systems are duplicated many times, and engine failure is not the cause of the fall - it goes on one and sits normally.
  • yan 2015
    yan 2015 31 October 2015 13: 05 New
    +2
    My sincere condolences to the families and friends of the victims. A terrible tragedy.
  • Old26
    Old26 31 October 2015 13: 05 New
    +5
    Quote: bashmak
    Who could fly from Egypt at this time? I was going to work. No pity!

    People, in fact, ours are also. At this resort, oligarchs do not rest
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 31 October 2015 13: 06 New
    +4
    Condolences to relatives. May God give strength and hope to the last.
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 31 October 2015 13: 10 New
    10
    It’s sunny today in St. Petersburg, people were going to meet relatives and acquaintances in Pulkovo, and here ... A huge request to all the “services”: you figure it out, please !!! You just really figure it out, OK? !!! ........... Stop, now they said that there are survivors !!!
  • Cook
    Cook 31 October 2015 13: 11 New
    +5
    Condolences to the near and dear ones. It is very premature to speak about the causes of the disaster, with such meager data. Usually in the first hours after such an event there is a lot of conflicting information. In order to protect the feelings of relatives and friends of the deceased, it is better to refrain from spreading all kinds of rumors, and even more so from unfounded accusations.
  • blind
    blind 31 October 2015 13: 11 New
    -3
    Quote: bulvas
    Sorry for the dead and their relatives

    Yesterday it was reported that Saakashvili, Gerashchenko sent militants from air defense systems to bring down a Russian plane and quarrel Russia and the United States

    True, it was about Syria

    Something a lot over the past few days -
    the conspiracy of Saakashvili, mass launches of our missiles, and here is our plane

    Sahak nonsense is lackey Americans receiving a salary from them and will not do such things
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 31 October 2015 13: 14 New
    +6
    Crew list:
    1. Valery Nemov, captain
    2. Sergey Trukhachev, co-pilot
    3. Valenitna Martsevich, stewardess
    4. Andrey Belomestnov, steward
    5. Irina Olaru, stewardess
    6. Stanislav Sviridov, steward
    7. Alexey Filimonov, steward
    I read now from under the debris voices are heard, God forbid