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KRET declares readiness to create systems that reduce the effectiveness of eurPRO to zero

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General Designer of KRET Corporation (Radio Electronic Technologies Concern) Yuri Maevsky in an interview RIA News announced that KRET specialists are preparing the latest developments, which will reduce to zero the effectiveness of all attempts to create a US missile defense system in Europe. It is reported that the Russian response will be asymmetrical.


KRET declares readiness to create systems that reduce the effectiveness of eurPRO to zero


Yuri Maevsky:
KRET is ready to build and supply high-performance means and electronic warfare systems of various bases to neutralize missile defense elements in Europe.


KRET notes that today the Russian Federation is the world leader in the development and operation of EW systems. It must be emphasized that the same opinion is also held in Washington, where people are usually used to claiming their primacy in almost all military and civilian areas.

Recall that earlier the US authorities stated that the European missile defense system is not directed against the Russian Federation, and its creation is associated with "Iran's nuclear projects." But even now, when all uranium enrichment projects by Iranian specialists are being curtailed, efforts are continuing in Europe to create elements of the US missile defense, which could upset global parity.
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  1. Irokez
    Irokez 30 October 2015 15: 12 New
    48
    Kohl declares means to do. We don’t throw words into the wind, said - made. Man, however.
    1. Gxash
      Gxash 30 October 2015 15: 14 New
      +6
      Yes, immediately do missiles of all stripes with electronic warfare and do all business ...
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 30 October 2015 15: 24 New
        85
        I'm not special, but I always sensed with genes ... That we can find a bolt with our thread on any nut ..! And the twist will be forever, gentlemen ... Do not anger us and everything will be fine! hi
        1. Genur
          Genur 30 October 2015 16: 01 New
          +3
          ... with SCREW ...
          1. nemo778
            nemo778 30 October 2015 22: 43 New
            22
            Dear friends! Look! I think komenty, too much! pluses are not necessary! hi I'm too old on this site! love
            1. nemo778
              nemo778 30 October 2015 23: 06 New
              17
              Very interesting! Take a look! soldier
              1. morozik
                morozik 30 October 2015 23: 46 New
                20
                The commander of the US Air Force in Europe, General Frank Gorenk, spoke out that the Russian electronic warfare systems nullify all the advantages of high-tech weapons that are armed with NATO. "Они закрыли брешь. “Our advantage in the air is melting,” the general said. - Но больше всего настораживают их новые возможности по реализации стратегии ограничения доступа к определенным территориям (A2/AD)". An explanation is needed. The term A2 / AD in NATO means countering the admission of foreign troops to their territory (anti-access or A2) while limiting their effective actions on the territory if they could break through (area-denial or AD). In the West, primarily in the USA, it was believed that only they possess the secret of the implementation of the A2 / AD concept and will never allow enemy troops, from their point of view, to invade their borders. They themselves have the right to declare any region of the globe a zone of their vital interests. And, of course, to conduct unpunished hostilities there. The territory of our country was no exception. And then it turned out that not every plane or rocket could simply fly over the border of Russia, not to mention the use of precision strikes. Почти непреодолимой преградой становится невидимая стена различных систем радиоэлектронной борьбы, которые, используя модное выражение, "выносят мозг" самому "умному" оружию, имеющемуся в арсеналах НАТО. Вот что говорит по этому поводу гендиректор концерна "Радиоэлектронные технологии" Николай Колесов: "Россия не затыкает никакие бреши. We rather return to the once abandoned position. Средства РЭБ являются одним из ключевых элементов концепции A2/AD в случае противостояния противнику, который привык действовать с опорой на преимущество в небе и полагаться на высокоточные вооружения, а также на всеобъемлющие и "глубокие" разведданные. Однако радиоэлектронная борьба способна выбить все эти козыри из рук агрессора, создав в буквальном смысле невыносимые условия для так называемого "проецирования силы". You can recall what the Reb technology today. Russian Aerospace Forces receive planes and helicopters, which, having special equipment, are able not only to provide individual protection, but also to cover entire areas, disrupting enemy communications, making reconnaissance and the use of high-precision weapons difficult. К таким средствам относится, к примеру, уникальный вертолетный комплекс "Рычаг-АВ", способный "ослеплять" РЛС противника на расстоянии в несколько сотен километров. Мозговым центром наземной высокотехнологичной обороны является комплекс радиоэлектронной разведки и управления "Москва-1". Its capabilities allow radio-technical reconnaissance of airspace at a range of up to 400 km. The reconnaissance of target parameters is conducted in a passive mode, which ensures high stealth operation. After the detection of air targets, their parameters are transferred to other systems of electronic warfare, air defense and aviation. На управлении "Москвы-1" одновременно могут находиться более 7 комплексов РЭБ. Среди того, чем управляет "Москва-1", - мобильные комплексы РЭБ семейства "Красуха". They are capable of detecting and effectively suppressing the airborne radar of enemy aircraft at ranges of up to 300 km, preventing the detection of targets in the protected area and the use of weapons on them. The comprehensive and competent use of these systems does not allow the enemy to quickly hit the objects of state and military command, information infrastructure, the most important economic objects and means of retaliation.
              2. complete zero
                complete zero 1 November 2015 10: 27 New
                0
                с радио взрывателем все понятно,не понятно другое ракеты есть ведь не только наводящиеся по "лучу" но есть ОЛС (тепловая головка) их то как обнаружить?
                1. dali
                  dali 1 November 2015 14: 45 New
                  0
                  Quote: complete zero
                  с радио взрывателем все понятно,не понятно другое ракеты есть ведь не только наводящиеся по "лучу" но есть ОЛС (тепловая головка) их то как обнаружить?
                  Look with 3m40s ... it turns out that the methods for guiding enemy missiles have nothing to do with it !!! Even if without guidance systems at all ...
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 30 October 2015 17: 51 New
          19
          Quote: MIKHAN
          I'm not special, but I always sensed with genes ... That we can find a bolt with our thread on any nut ..! And the twist will be forever, gentlemen ... Do not anger us and everything will be fine!

          Given their tolerance, a bolt with a left-handed thread is likely laughing
          The Kratovites are great. They work out their own piece of bread honestly. They don’t run around with the mock-ups at the exhibitions and don’t vote what they’ll ever do. They claim that they do without idle talk and fuss.
          1. arane
            arane 30 October 2015 22: 04 New
            13
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: MIKHAN
            I'm not special, but I always sensed with genes ... That we can find a bolt with our thread on any nut ..! And the twist will be forever, gentlemen ... Do not anger us and everything will be fine!

            Given their tolerance, a bolt with a left-handed thread is likely laughing
            The Kratovites are great. They work out their own piece of bread honestly. They don’t run around with the mock-ups at the exhibitions and don’t vote what they’ll ever do. They claim that they do without idle talk and fuss.

            Who cares what thread? We won’t screw anyway, we’ll forget!
            1. kori
              kori 2 November 2015 11: 02 New
              0
              Let's turn it back and hold it)
        3. Tatar 174
          Tatar 174 30 October 2015 18: 24 New
          +2
          It will be possible to turn off the Ukrainians all if they begin to excite against us. wink
          1. Voha_krim
            Voha_krim 31 October 2015 06: 15 New
            +5
            Quote: Tartar 174
            It will be possible to turn off the Ukrainians all if they begin to excite against us. wink

            Mikhail TIMOSHENKO has already fantasized on this topic in an article What would the conflict look like in the Donbass if the Armed Forces of Russia really participated in it

            http://www.kp.ru/daily/26353.4/3234610/

            laughing good
          2. KORSAR12
            KORSAR12 31 October 2015 09: 59 New
            0
            All is not necessary, leave VGTRK plizd ...
    2. Finches
      Finches 30 October 2015 15: 20 New
      23
      Good news!
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    4. vyinemeynen
      vyinemeynen 30 October 2015 15: 31 New
      11
      Here we go! Previously, they hid and did, and then they used and won!
      Now the information war prepare the latest developments and already announce their goals!
      Such statements look strange (either disa for their own, or infa for strangers).
      In general, it is recalled (there were such allegations) that there could have been no war (start) at 41 if the Germans knew about T34.
      I want to believe that know what and why declare!
      1. Rom14
        Rom14 30 October 2015 15: 51 New
        +2
        It’s not just once that it’s been made and tested, it’s not just that the American sailors escaped from the ship, and enemy planes do not fly close to ours ... Medvedev also threatened - the answer would be adequate.
        1. Izotovp
          Izotovp 30 October 2015 15: 53 New
          +4
          And let’s rejoice that the answer is adequate ... for now ... wassat
      2. Genur
        Genur 30 October 2015 16: 04 New
        0
        Боюсь, что и здесь "добро" поступило from there.
      3. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 30 October 2015 16: 23 New
        +1
        ..... that there could be no war (start) in 41 if the Germans knew about T34 .....

        .... Hardly ..... The Germans knew about the T-34 ..... And the T-34 at the beginning of the war was several hundred pieces .... Mostly there were light tanks and not a very large number of KV .. ... hi
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 30 October 2015 17: 13 New
          +3
          Quote: aleks 62 next
          Hardly ..... Germans knew about the T-34 ..... And the T-34 at the beginning of the war was several hundred pieces .... Mostly there were light tanks and not a very large number of KV ..... hi

          At the beginning of the war, there were 1960 T-34 tanks and 646 KV-1 and KV-2 tanks. The Kirov plant was not adapted for mass production of equipment, and in Chelyabinsk and Sverdlovsk the capacities for in-line production of tanks were not ready. UVZ was to manufacture hulls and towers Chelyabinsk Zavod ChTZ to produce engines and transmissions and assemble tanks. By the beginning of the war KhPZ mastered the production of T-34 and STZ mastered production.
          1. andj61
            andj61 30 October 2015 19: 22 New
            +3
            Quote: Amurets
            At the beginning of the war there were 1960 T-34 tanks and 646 KV-1 and KV-2 tanks.

            Only the T-34s were somewhat not the ones that were recognized as the best tank of the Second World War. And the engine resource was first 50, then 100 hours. Yes, and the combat use of tanks - the Germans had the most advanced, and in our 41st - long outdated. The Germans mainly counted on this.
            1. shasherin.pavel
              shasherin.pavel 1 November 2015 09: 41 New
              +1
              Quote: andj61
              And the engine resource was first 50, then 100 hours.

              Ресурс авиационного двигателя АМ-35 был пятьдесят часов. Прошу заметить, что это работа двигателя на форсированном режиме. Если снизить обороты до среднего числа, то ресурс двигателя увеличивается в три раза, а это уже 150 моточасов. Читайте мемуары танкистов: в одном из полков был танк Т-34, на котором без замены двигателя экипаж воевал с Московской битвы до Вислы. Правда на марше танк ставили в конце колонны, двигатель мог ставить дымовую завесу из выхлопных газов. При подходе к границам Германии, в танковых полках было произведено награждение механиков-водителей медалями "за боевые заслуги", если двигатели отработали более 400 часов. Вот и читайте потом всяких специалистов от истории. Да, иностранные авиационные двигатели имели ресурсы в двое или в трое больше наших - это без спорно, но в авиационных полках где обслуживали "Томагавки", "Спитфайры", А-20 Бостоны и др., приходилось создавать лаборатории по очистке масел и фильтрации топлива. Жалко что этого не было в автобатах, "Студеры" бы дольше ходили. Не было в армии культуры техобслуживания.
          2. shasherin.pavel
            shasherin.pavel 1 November 2015 09: 28 New
            0
            Quote: Amurets
            At the beginning of the war there were 1960 T-34 and 646 tanks KV-1 and KV-2

            Quote: Amurets
            By the beginning of the war KhPZ mastered the production of T-34 and STZ mastered production.

            Is that so? Is the release of 1960 tanks just mastering production? a test of the pen, so to speak?
            If you put the 1960 T-34 tanks in one line at a distance of 4 meters from each other, you get a system in 13 720 meters.
        2. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 1 November 2015 09: 18 New
          -1
          Quote: aleks 62 next
          .Germans knew about the T-34.

          They didn’t know, but they began to guess after our commission for the purchase of the latest technology, having bought the T-III and T-IV tanks, began stubbornly asking them to show them the latest rather than obsolete tanks, which prompted the German side to think that the USSR had much more advanced technique.
          Заодно уже отвечу и "амурцу": наличие 1960 танков, это совсем не то что "Состояло на вооружении". Обратите внимание на немецкие фотографии 1941 года, там есть фотография целого эшелона Т-34 на железнодорожных платформах. Но германский "Вермахт", окрылённый первыми успехами, даже не заметил этого приобретения. Так же и мы не заметили эффекта от того, что кто-то из командования даже не побеспокоился отогнать готовый эшелон с новейшими танками в тыл. А может генерал Павлов побеспокоился о том, чтобы они достались врагу.
          1. polkovnik manuch
            polkovnik manuch 2 November 2015 08: 11 New
            0
            You don’t need so much about the late general, he was not the first violin, although he knew much more than in the NSS.
      4. morozik
        morozik 30 October 2015 22: 44 New
        +1
        this is called warning coloring ... the point is to explain to morons - that there will be no winners
      5. vex
        vex 30 October 2015 23: 30 New
        +1
        This is a warning to Europeans - do not waste time and money on dummies, it is better to be friends with us, it is in your interests.
    5. mishaia_23
      mishaia_23 30 October 2015 16: 44 New
      11
      If infa went, then the development is already in full growth, but
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 1 November 2015 09: 43 New
        0
        Quote: mishaia_23
        If info went already

        разработана более новая техника, но её ещё только предстоит принять на вооружение. Одна женщина рассказала, что её муж служит в полку, где проходят освоение новейшие танки, так когда она говорит ему: "Смотри твои новые танки показывают, по телевизору", то он отвечает:"Если показывают, то уже не новейшие".
    6. Tor5
      Tor5 30 October 2015 17: 10 New
      +7
      Usually such statements are made when there are already good practices or even prototypes.
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    8. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 30 October 2015 17: 20 New
      +3
      If ours creates a system that when turned on will turn off vision heads and interrupt communications from satellites that control the rocket, this will be 100% obscene to the United States and the whole world. If the rocket is already flying across Russia to the target, it’s not even necessary to intercept it, it will just turn on the equipment along the route and everything, the rocket loses its connection with the satellite, and the brain of the rocket is also out of order! With such devices, the S-400 will not be needed, why should the missile be intercepted when an object enters the field of action of the device and that's it became scrap metal for 1.000.000 green
      1. igor.borov775
        igor.borov775 30 October 2015 18: 01 New
        -7
        Beautifully written but utter nonsense. Explicitly completely missing logic. It’s a beautiful fairy tale about Hotabych. Although, as far as I remember, one President of the United States also blundered like that. We’ll return the missiles back if we need to. Well, it’s like star wars of one politician.
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 30 October 2015 23: 40 New
          +6
          Quote: igor.borov775
          Beautifully written but utter nonsense. Explicitly completely missing logic. It’s a beautiful fairy tale about Hotabych. Although, as far as I remember, one President of the United States also blundered like that. We’ll return the missiles back if we need to. Well, it’s like star wars of one politician.

          Only you answer, without Hottabychy, why suddenly the crew from Donald Cook began to quit the US Navy. Well, they left the ship without communication, well, all the electronics with computers stopped working, well, the ship lost speed. What because of this, they are dismissed from the army and refuse military social security (pensions and other benefits)?
          Draw conclusions - it means there was a psychotronic effect on the crew, fear and hysteria arose, which led to premature dismissals.
          Hottabych obviously has nothing to do with it. But the Su-24 seemed to have something to do with it.
          1. mav1971
            mav1971 31 October 2015 16: 38 New
            +4
            Quote: Алексей_К
            Quote: igor.borov775
            Beautifully written but utter nonsense. Explicitly completely missing logic. It’s a beautiful fairy tale about Hotabych. Although, as far as I remember, one President of the United States also blundered like that. We’ll return the missiles back if we need to. Well, it’s like star wars of one politician.

            Only you answer, without Hottabychy, why suddenly the crew from Donald Cook began to quit the US Navy. Well, they left the ship without communication, well, all the electronics with computers stopped working, well, the ship lost speed. What because of this, they are dismissed from the army and refuse military social security (pensions and other benefits)?
            Draw conclusions - it means there was a psychotronic effect on the crew, fear and hysteria arose, which led to premature dismissals.
            Hottabych obviously has nothing to do with it. But the Su-24 seemed to have something to do with it.


            Что бы не выглядеть так глупо, как вы сейчас "нарисовались" - поищите в интернете первоисточник ваших "знаний".
            Where did this information come from?
            Look at the route of the destroyer, how he walked, with whom he walked.
            You will need to spend one evening on this - but you will immediately - for the rest of your life you will become much smarter and more reasonable.
            You just learn to think!
          2. igor.borov775
            igor.borov775 31 October 2015 17: 58 New
            +2
            The KRET specialist explained simply and intelligibly. They were not able to identify the destroyer. For them, the plane came out of nowhere. In principle, such a technique was demonstrated by the Far East in front of the US aircraft carrier. They also drove one plane, even raised a shift on duty. He left and suddenly all of a sudden two SU-24s walked low next to this community. And now you can safely imagine how the Great Lords of the Oceans felt. Agree clearly not festive.
      2. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 1 November 2015 09: 53 New
        +1
        Горбачёв как то, будучи у власти, высказался: "У нас есть разработки, которые могут влиять на гироскопы стратегических ракет противника и выставлять обратную полярность, и тогда вместо полёта на "Восток", ракеты полетят на "запад". Но вот с тех пор прошла такая инфа только во второй раз со времён Горби.
    9. Maxom75
      Maxom75 30 October 2015 17: 23 New
      +1
      If this is true, then this is the most effective answer.
    10. Alex_Rarog
      Alex_Rarog 30 October 2015 18: 56 New
      +1
      Well, what if we are lagging behind in electronic gadgets for the army, then let the enemy also not be able to use them))) correctly) soldier
  2. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 30 October 2015 15: 12 New
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    Who doubted that the American one was cunning ... ABM would be ours ... KRET with a screw ?;)
    1. vladnn2015
      vladnn2015 30 October 2015 15: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Russian Federation is a world leader

      And they need to stay, otherwise ....
    2. Truth
      Truth 30 October 2015 15: 22 New
      18
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      what about the American cunning ... PRO there is ours ...

      Well, this is almost the same story about the chain of confrontation:
      On a sly ass - pisyun with a screw,
      On pisyun with a screw - butt with turns,
      On the ass with turns - pisyun with a navigator,
      On pisyun with a navigator - a priest with labyrinths,
      ... and so on, it all depends on the ingenuity and speed of implementation of the idea.
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 30 October 2015 15: 31 New
        +7
        Agree, colleague, in terms of creative thinking, our people have no equal! Especially in terms of how someone’s cunning ... PRO put a bolt on the bolt!
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 30 October 2015 17: 20 New
          0
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          Agree, colleague, in terms of creative thinking, our people have no equal! Especially in terms of how someone’s cunning ... PRO put a bolt on the bolt!

          This is especially true for something to turn your head away. And in childhood, you must see what is inside. And God himself ordered the adults; to put a pig to someone.
          1. Bort radist
            Bort radist 30 October 2015 17: 55 New
            0
            Quote: Amurets
            And in childhood, be sure to see what's inside.

            Well, here an example is not in our favor. Someone threw expired mountain rescuers (gas mask) into a landfill. The boys began to disassemble. One was left without a hand, burned his face with loss of vision. 7 years old kid. Mother is one and three brothers. They threw themselves in the city to help.
        2. Bort radist
          Bort radist 30 October 2015 17: 28 New
          +8
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          in terms of creative thinking, our people have no equal!

          There were complaints that there were tubes of toothpaste empty - marriage. They gathered foreign engineers who created the conveyor, outlined the problem - to detect an empty tube. Two months later, they mounted and started the system. All products passed through the scales with a lower weight, the conveyor stopped. A week later, empty tubes stopped coming across. They ordered to know the reason. The peasants were tired of the jerking of the conveyor, they put a fan in and a stream of air began to blow away empty tubes.
          1. Mikhail Krapivin
            Mikhail Krapivin 30 October 2015 20: 29 New
            +5
            That is exactly what I had in mind. If you need to come up with a simple solution to a complex problem - ours is second to none. Remember the pencil in space.
            1. Kent0001
              Kent0001 30 October 2015 20: 50 New
              +1
              A pencil in space is, I tell you, a classic.
            2. Aleksey_K
              Aleksey_K 30 October 2015 23: 58 New
              +1
              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              That is exactly what I had in mind. If you need to come up with a simple solution to a complex problem - ours is second to none. Remember the pencil in space.

              Of course, this is a solution to a problem that at that stage was difficult or impossible to solve. But if an unscrupulous astronaut begins to wipe his pencil notes, then no one will ever figure out the problem that arose in space. If you watched the programs about astronauts, you would have noticed that not all the crews were friendly, there were quarrels and premature landing of the crews. So there were astronauts capable of forging their own pencil notes.
              Даже дублёр Гагарина, Герман Титов, страшно злился на Гагарина и буквально "рычал" на него, за то, что тот стал первым.
              Here we are - people.
            3. mav1971
              mav1971 31 October 2015 16: 41 New
              0
              Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
              That is exactly what I had in mind. If you need to come up with a simple solution to a complex problem - ours is second to none. Remember the pencil in space.


              The tale about the Ford specialist that the conveyor in Gorky restored - remind?

              Enough of exclusivity.
              If we traveled around the world, I think they saw how clever a thought is for all people. Whatever the place.
          2. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 30 October 2015 23: 50 New
            -4
            Quote: Bort Radist
            There were complaints that there were tubes of toothpaste empty - marriage. They gathered foreign engineers who created the conveyor, outlined the problem - to detect an empty tube. Two months later, they mounted and started the system. All products passed through the scales with a lower weight, the conveyor stopped. A week later, empty tubes stopped coming across. They ordered to know the reason. The peasants were tired of the jerking of the conveyor, they put a fan in and a stream of air began to blow away empty tubes.

            A beautiful joke, but no more. If there is a reason for the appearance of empty tubes, then they do not solve the problem of removing these tubes from the conveyor, but decide how to prevent the appearance of empty tubes. Those. how to make sure all tubes are filled.
            So all this fictional joke is complete nonsense.
        3. morozik
          morozik 30 October 2015 23: 12 New
          +1
          in the meantime, diplomats are opening, we have trial trainingand ... that sounds good!
          1. kolyhalovs
            kolyhalovs 31 October 2015 21: 48 New
            0
            How interesting! gluing from all cameras takes place at the same time. And what's so secret about it when the container is already almost rose vertically?
            1. shasherin.pavel
              shasherin.pavel 1 November 2015 10: 11 New
              0
              On 0: 40 there is no slip, but on others there is a sharp jump. But this camera is at the bottom and apparently does not fall under some kind of signal, but the cameras above are receiving some kind of effect - a microscopic stop of recording. Something electronic is turning on at this moment, but having an upward direction ...
              1. kolyhalovs
                kolyhalovs 2 November 2015 06: 19 New
                0
                There is a slip. Not at 40 seconds, but at 44.
  3. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 30 October 2015 15: 13 New
    +1
    here it is an arms race. Now America will begin to think how to get ahead of this KRET system
  4. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 30 October 2015 15: 17 New
    +4
    А нельзя это как то ненавязчиво продемонстрировать? Например как "Калибр" пролетел? wassat Much more effective and intelligible! And no statements are needed! Immediately everyone who needs it, everyone understood!
    1. demo
      demo 30 October 2015 15: 42 New
      +4
      Optimal:
      "Включил систему на пару-тройку секунд, выключил и пол Европы сидят и без интернета, и без авиа навигации и т.д."

      What do you think will come?
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 30 October 2015 18: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: demo
        "Включил систему на пару-тройку секунд, выключил и пол Европы сидят и без интернета, и без авиа навигации и т.д."


        This could be done even when I served .. the end of the 80s. In Cuba, Fidel asked our help to solve the problem with TiViMARTY .., ours did not immediately do. Apparently they were settling with Moscow .. For several days in the towns below Maimi there was no radio, tv .. but there was white noise ..)) As soon as TviMarti stopped broadcasting to Cuba, these towns began to live their old lives.
      2. mav1971
        mav1971 31 October 2015 16: 48 New
        -1
        Quote: demo
        Optimal:
        "Включил систему на пару-тройку секунд, выключил и пол Европы сидят и без интернета, и без авиа навигации и т.д."

        What do you think will come?


        Have you tried to think?
        Why did the Soviet Union begin to make an atomic bomb very quickly?
        Can you give a normal answer?
        I will give it for you.
        Because such a powerful weapon, unsurpassed at that time, was in the hands of a potential enemy.
        Threat to national security.
        Direct and unambiguous.
        And ours began to catch up.
        In making a bomb.
        In the development of means to prevent nuclear weapons carriers from reaching the USSR - air defense, missile defense, missile defense, etc.


        so here
        If we have a system that can easily turn off the missile defense / air defense \ communications \ navigation system, this will be a threat to the national security of any country in the world.
        And they will by all means catch up and prevent.
        This is the point of view of a normal person.
        No one will allow himself to live in fear that he will be slammed at any moment.
        Both Russian and German, French, American.
        Think about it.
        At least just think!
    2. vyinemeynen
      vyinemeynen 30 October 2015 15: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      But can’t this be unobtrusively demonstrated?


      And airplanes with innocent men get caught, those who die in intensive care will die! Do not we feel sorry? .......... but demonstrated! If the joke is not very successful!
      If not a joke, take away Claudia!
    3. skifd
      skifd 30 October 2015 17: 25 New
      0
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      But can’t this be unobtrusively demonstrated?


      Так ведь судя по заявлениям "партнёров(!)" , их уже "обрадовали" возможностями некоторых новинок ?! И видим по их реакции , они в "восторге" .. wassat
  5. ASG7
    ASG7 30 October 2015 15: 19 New
    +2
    The era of the Great Hybridization - when grandiose Soviet developments in the analogue component are combined with the most powerful digital control apparatus of the modern era.
  6. Azitral
    Azitral 30 October 2015 15: 25 New
    +4
    Вполне ожидаемо. "Иджис" - шедевр! Поставляемые в его комплект SM-3, - лучшие в своем классе. Но у них есть ахиллесова пята, от которой не удастся избавиться в ближайшие 10 лет. Она УПРАВЛЯЕМАЯ. Не самонаводящаяся. Разумеется, управляет ей вычислительный комплекс, но НАЗЕМНЫЙ. Вот такой парадокс. Любой сбой, искажение в канале - и эта штука промахнется по цели. Как сделать ракету с такими характеристиками самонаводящейся, не видно даже сколько-нибудь реальных путей.
    1. Bashibuzuk
      Bashibuzuk 30 October 2015 15: 41 New
      +3
      Does the self-guiding one have channels of information collection?
      Before processing, it is necessary to assemble.
      Before you collect, you need to know what we, in fact, expect to collect.
      Then, appropriately create the conditions for generating the information field.
      .
      Now let’s imagine that the information field is jammed - Zemfira, say. Or a magnetron. crazy about impunity.
      Or a company of heavy earthmoving equipment with inflatable mountains.
      And who will collect what.
      .
      Optics to fool too much mind is not necessary. They make a fool even in the movies.
      .
      So far, in the homing head a big-headed, farsighted man (ee or woman) does not sit down - no homing.
      And what kamikazes are capable of - we all know.
      Read here.
      .
      So it turns out - a sly left-hand crankshaft.
      ....
      That's why publication - we are right now .. we all xxx
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 30 October 2015 17: 22 New
      +3
      И скажет кто-нибудь,как когда-то Лебедь съязвил: "Это ж надо, В СТРАНУ НЕ ПОПАСТЬ!" (война НАТО с Югославией, когда "топоры" в Грецию и Болгарию залетали)
    3. SSeT
      SSeT 31 October 2015 00: 31 New
      -1
      DOES IJIS THE GROUND MANAGED COMPLEX? You are drunk, oversleep! This is the entire ship system, from the ground it can only be the control center
      Нонешние "проблемы" Иджиса лишь от того, что его создавали по текущие и перспектиные задачи ТОГО времени. А с ними он справлялся на ура, и был лучшим и недостижим нам, к сожалению
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 31 October 2015 10: 34 New
        +3
        Вы правы конечно. Иджис, в переводе Эгида есть корабельная многофункциональная боевая информационно-управляющая система, это так, но без наземных, космических и иных средств, с баллистическими ракетами бороться ей не реально. Еще раз, это БИУС, а не ПРО. и сама она "пытается интегрироваться" в ПРО. По всей видимости именно это автор и имел ввиду, а если и выпил пивка, так дай ему Господи здоровья wink . You plus for technical literacy observation. hi
      2. mav1971
        mav1971 31 October 2015 16: 57 New
        0
        Quote: SSeT
        DOES IJIS THE GROUND MANAGED COMPLEX? You are drunk, oversleep! This is the entire ship system, from the ground it can only be the control center
        Нонешние "проблемы" Иджиса лишь от того, что его создавали по текущие и перспектиные задачи ТОГО времени. А с ними он справлялся на ура, и был лучшим и недостижим нам, к сожалению


        But what about Aegis, placed in the ground version?
        Aegis Ashore is called.
        It’s already standing in Romania and will stand in Poland.
        So in vain you then ran into a person.
        1. polkovnik manuch
          polkovnik manuch 2 November 2015 08: 20 New
          0
          Добавьте будет стоять до часа "Х" , а потом там будет дымящийся котлован .Так ,что политикам и правящей верхушке Пановщины и Цыганщины , прежде чем размещать на своей территории системы ПРО ( да и другим ЧЛЕНАМ альянса ),нужно головой подумать , а не тем. на чем сидят.
  7. bronik
    bronik 30 October 2015 15: 25 New
    0
    First, they showed the whole world in work, and then announced the availability. Bravo!
  8. exalex2
    exalex2 30 October 2015 15: 26 New
    -10
    Ну-да, ну-да. Столько лет болтовни..И "вдруг" появилось чудо..Так не бывает..
  9. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 30 October 2015 15: 31 New
    14
    Вот вам матрасники...Это только "верхушка айсберга"..А там что еще есть , никто не знает..
    1. retardu
      retardu 30 October 2015 17: 25 New
      -10
      Great movie, at the level of American cartoons about superweapons with only poor graphics
      1. _Voislav_
        _Voislav_ 31 October 2015 21: 40 New
        0
        Because it’s good that the wrapper is so-so, and the filling is lovely with a twist ...
  10. slizhov
    slizhov 30 October 2015 15: 32 New
    +4
    MDA ...
    the next puncture of the Pentogon ...
    ISIS created, invested billions - everything in the sands, as if through fingers ...
    In Ukraine, they fucked up - a complete hole ...
    Строили, строили Авианосцы... - и чего теперь, когда их пасут наши "наблюдатели" - бах и... не мимо!!!
    PRO, pro, pro ... with his busyness of places, as one ambassador put it and - AGAIN IN THE DEEP REAR ...
    The people of America will soon refuse to contain these brave guys who are not afraid of the whole Russian! :)
    1. Are
      Are 1 November 2015 11: 49 New
      0
      Народ Америки в содержании "этих бравых парней" не участвует: ему никто таких прав не передавал.У Пентагона вкладывание денег не есть прокол, это всего лишь научно-технический эксперимент.Не получилось--попросят денег настойчиво и получат столько , сколько надо( хочется).
  11. pts-m
    pts-m 30 October 2015 15: 35 New
    +1
    the flag of the imposition of an arms race has passed to Russia! In vain pin.dos thrust lit torches into the taiga. they are extinguished right there, since Russia has more experience in extinguishing fires.
  12. Lecha57
    Lecha57 30 October 2015 15: 46 New
    0
    "Цынтробалт" показал свои возможности. И горе тому,кто не сообразил.
  13. mpzss
    mpzss 30 October 2015 15: 47 New
    +1
    on the Internet, here’s what I found: http://by24.org/2015/10/28/no_more_nuclear_weapons_in_russia/ and I realized that we have teachers at our universities who CONSCIOUSLY teach our students not in good faith, so that everything that he talks about comes true He speaks!!!!!!!!!! In principle, the ministers of education help them with this! It's a shame, damn it!
    And with this professor of the Department of Natural and Technosphere Safety and Risk Management of the Russian State Technological University, Peter Belov, we need to figure out who gave him such data about our weapons and, most importantly, about what the Americans are going to do!
    1. skifd
      skifd 30 October 2015 17: 44 New
      0
      Quote: mpzss
      And with this professor of the Department of Natural and Technosphere Safety and Risk Management of the Russian State Technological University, Peter Belov, we need to figure out who gave him such data about our weapons and, most importantly, about what the Americans are going to do!


      Господи , ведь если что "гугл" в помощь , и станет ясно всё с эНтим "акадЭмикоммм" ...
      Follow the link, and do not worry.

      http://www.onolitegi.ru/component/content/article/124-akademik-geopoliticheskih-
      problem.html

      И кроме UA , и BY что-то никто не обсуждает "горячо" эту "леденящую душу" новость ..
      Ну на "цензоре" то понятно , "укурная" пЭрЭмохга laughing wassat !
  14. BOB044
    BOB044 30 October 2015 15: 52 New
    -1

    Yuri Maevsky:
    KRET is ready to build and supply high-performance means and electronic warfare systems of various bases to neutralize missile defense elements in Europe.
    Well, gentlemen from NATO, it’s time to get a proctologist to see a doctor. laughing
  15. Altona
    Altona 30 October 2015 15: 52 New
    14
    These Americans are funny, the right word, with their naive dreams ...
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 30 October 2015 20: 50 New
      +6
      The grandmother is old, the grandmother knows life, the grandmother will not advise bad!
    2. SSeT
      SSeT 31 October 2015 00: 41 New
      +2
      By the way, that’s exactly what they always do (Americans). They have wise grandmothers, they bring up granddaughters correctly, ours are just shy (sometimes)
  16. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 30 October 2015 15: 59 New
    0
    We need to create such a weapon so that it answers silently to all this Western nonsense addressed to us, only so that for some reason the talkers stop ... and they asked for mercy!
  17. Tummyr
    Tummyr 30 October 2015 16: 05 New
    +1
    Походу Наши нашли "летающую тарелку", вот и клепают с нее разные "подарки" для наших "партнеров". bully
  18. cniza
    cniza 30 October 2015 16: 11 New
    +3
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Вот вам матрасники...Это только "верхушка айсберга"..А там что еще есть , никто не знает..



    It is interesting when they turn away where they fall and where it explodes?
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 30 October 2015 17: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      It is interesting when they turn away where they fall and where it explodes?

      to the take-off point ...
    2. xenod55
      xenod55 30 October 2015 20: 08 New
      +1
      Интересно при отворачивании они потом куда попадают и где взрывается? - ВОТ над этим ВОПРОСОМ очень нужно работать. ЧТО БЫ, то что "отвернуло" летело ТУДА, ОТКУДА ВЫЛЕТЕЛО и там же и взорвалось.
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 30 October 2015 16: 14 New
    0
    I consider infa an element of the information war that ours has quite successfully begun to use recently. This is such a multi-factorial multi-path, this is, so to speak, a message to who needs it.
  20. 787nkx
    787nkx 30 October 2015 16: 17 New
    0
    Some kind of invention or development already,
    likely to interfere
    early detection and further destruction of targets?

    ABM rather than a concrete piece of iron
    and the concept can also counteract it,
    but already shock, or shockproof, somehow.

    At the moment, the only way to overcome missile defense (air defense), etc.,
    this is a shock multiple quantitatively exceeding the capabilities of the shock.
    1. 31rus
      31rus 30 October 2015 17: 32 New
      0
      Вы не правы,в концепции присутствуют реальные компоненты,это "Иджис",противоракеты,системы контроля,АСУ,наконец сами пункты управления и связи и все это высоко автоматизированные системы,которые можно просто уничтожать,а можно просто вывести из строя или заблокировать,что фразы дешевле потому как известны многие параметры,так что все осуществимо
  21. kizhe
    kizhe 30 October 2015 16: 28 New
    0
    Well done! Let the reptiles crush in all directions.
  22. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 30 October 2015 16: 28 New
    0
    The spruce trees say that they most likely already have it, they just knock out financing for this business.
  23. ma_shlomha
    ma_shlomha 30 October 2015 16: 36 New
    0
    President Vladimir Putin instructed to replenish stocks of funds to protect citizens from nuclear threats. It is also necessary to take an inventory and understand what means are morally and technically outdated, Putin set the task. He made such a statement at a meeting of the Security Council, Interfax reports.
  24. roskot
    roskot 30 October 2015 16: 53 New
    0
    It turns out that the Americans wereted money on the wind on missile defense.
    1. retardu
      retardu 30 October 2015 17: 19 New
      0
      угу, мало того что неизвестно когда "чудо" это появится.
      all the more it is not known which side of the eb will reduce the effectiveness of missile defense to 0
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 30 October 2015 17: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: retardu
        угу, мало того что неизвестно когда "чудо" это появится.
        all the more it is not known which side of the eb will reduce the effectiveness of missile defense to 0

        Мы в России любим "чудить"...
    2. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 30 October 2015 18: 55 New
      +2
      Who said to the empty. Nothing of the kind. These missile defense-based areas are a very bad system. Universal vertical launch systems are laid there. And the IJIS missile detection and control system has been constantly improved and modernized since 1983. This system is by far the most advanced. Yes, there are problems, but the United States is engaged in these matters with might and main. By the way, the USSR never completely trusted these electronic brains and Control Systems had another principle that completely eliminated this fuss with electronic warfare. Another redundant control system where there are no chips. But this is due to a lag in electronic circuit boards in control systems from the United States. Only after the Cold War did the Yankees learn such shocking news. The PRO area is PANDORA'S BOX. No allies will know what weapon systems are in these areas except the United States. push. And the most important decision-making time is much shorter than when Europe launched ground-based ax launch tables. And it is not in vain called Advanced basing. WHAT. And REB will not close everyone. He can close one place pointly if he succeeds. Such features of this system. No one hid the improvement work. But it’s also impossible to solve problems there. As far as I understand, there is propaganda fuss. retrofitting hurried means only one thing. Enemy at the Gates.
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 30 October 2015 20: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: igor.borov775
        . By the way, the USSR never completely trusted these electronic brains and Control Systems had another principle that completely eliminated this fuss with electronic warfare. Another redundant control system where there are no chips.

        This is not due to the mythical lag .. (how is it already tired of chewing). A normal backup system is not based on the same principles as the main one. This is the basis of dubbing. This is the first.
        The second one. There was no competition in electronics between the USSR and the USA. Everyone went their own way.
        Take an interest in the leisure of a bot computer of the first Ka-50 and what the Americans had at that time ..
        1. SSeT
          SSeT 31 October 2015 00: 46 New
          0
          Когда он только полетел, без доведённого "Вихря", Уже летали Апачи series D. Take an interest in what he had on board, then felasoifsuyte. Iksperd sofa
          1. dvina71
            dvina71 31 October 2015 00: 57 New
            0
            Quote: SSeT
            Iksperd sofa


            And then the Apache mid 90X? The Ka-50 of the first release is 10 years older. And it was actually not about the Whirlwind, but the on-board computer .. Do you, expert, have anything on this subject ... or so ... did you pass by?
  25. sa-ag
    sa-ag 30 October 2015 17: 37 New
    0
    Mayevsky himself said that any radiating device is direction-finding, so this is the most electronic warfare double-edged weapon
  26. Bort radist
    Bort radist 30 October 2015 18: 02 New
    0
    Quote: sa-ag
    so this is the most eb double-edged weapon

    Double-edged is not as scary as a double-edged sword.
  27. mihasik
    mihasik 30 October 2015 18: 31 New
    0
    KRET is ready to build and supply high-performance means and electronic warfare systems of various bases to neutralize missile defense elements in Europe.

    If so? That's cool!
  28. IAlex
    IAlex 30 October 2015 18: 40 New
    +2
    And besides populist pathos speeches, this very KRET demonstrated something in defense of what was said ???
    1. SSeT
      SSeT 31 October 2015 00: 51 New
      0
      Exactly! I can also say that I’m ready to supply plasma guns. and KRET has not done anything except the old Soviet backlogs. Will do - we'll see, but for now it's just a chatter
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 31 October 2015 01: 32 New
        0
        Quote: SSeT
        and KRET has not done anything besides the old Soviet backlogs


        http://kret.com/ru/products/
        Are there many Soviet backlogs?
  29. Sagittarius YaNAO
    Sagittarius YaNAO 30 October 2015 18: 50 New
    -2
    На "куке" опробовали, теперь в серию.
  30. Old26
    Old26 30 October 2015 18: 52 New
    0
    Quote: vyinemeynen
    Such statements look strange (either disa for their own, or infa for strangers).

    Most likely, both of them, but disinformation for their own people is most in demand. The main thing is that they will not check their own what they promised there.

    Quote: retardu
    all the more it is not known which side of the eb will reduce the effectiveness of missile defense to 0

    Во-во. Система РЭБ сведет на ноль систему наведения американских перехватчиков на противоракетах. особенно если учесть, что они работают в инфракрасном диапазоне и основа - наблюдение за "более горячими" боеголовками на фоне "холодного космоса". Тут на раз РЭБ все заглушит, потом еще раз и так до бесконечности...

    Quote: ma_shlomha
    President Vladimir Putin instructed to replenish stocks of funds to protect citizens from nuclear threats. It is also necessary to take an inventory and understand what means are morally and technically outdated, Putin set the task. He made such a statement at a meeting of the Security Council, Interfax reports.

    Check what, for the most part, has been gone for 15-20 years? A very urgent task. Morally and technically outdated ... How to put it mildly, so as not to swear ...
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 30 October 2015 21: 04 New
      0
      Quote: Old26

      Во-во. Система РЭБ сведет на ноль систему наведения американских перехватчиков на противоракетах. особенно если учесть, что они работают в инфракрасном диапазоне и основа - наблюдение за "более горячими" боеголовками на фоне "холодного космоса"

      What is this nonsense? What are warheads in space? What are you talking about? They are definitely not hot there and fly in a cloud of false targets. Yes, their missile defense (European) is not designed for this. Here their task is to shoot down our rockets on take-off .. So far they cannot do this. The speed of their missile defense does not allow them to catch up with the strategist who has started. But as time goes on, they are dying of hyperweapons .. then they will be in time. We don’t know what the missile defense system in Europe is or will stand there, hence the kipish.
      What KRET wants to surprise them with ... well, they certainly won't say. EW's job is to find a weak spot and break it there. It can be assumed that the weak point is that missile defense missiles require adjustment in flight, this can be broken. Purely my guess.
  31. efimich41
    efimich41 30 October 2015 19: 57 New
    0
    Recall that earlier the US authorities said that the Euro missile defense system is not directed against the Russian Federation, and its creation is associated with the "Iranian nuclear projects."

    May return strategic missiles to Cuba, this will help to worry the US authorities.
  32. Old26
    Old26 30 October 2015 20: 10 New
    +1
    Quote: efimich41
    May return strategic missiles to Cuba, this will help to worry the US authorities.

    Стратегические ракеты на Кубу? Как вы это себе представляете? Наши взяли и перевезли на Кубу "Тополя"? А ничего, если в ответ на территории любой из стран НАТО появятся наземные пусковые установки для того же "Трайдента". а в Прибалтике или Польше - БРСД, как например в Турции, плюс в Румынии и Болгарии, плюс в Грузии? Плюс во всех этих странах "Томагавки".
    Does this bother us ??? Maybe you need to think first before offering?
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 30 October 2015 20: 57 New
      0
      You know, there is a deep impression that all this will happen anyway. They will build a missile defense system, and then under its cover they will begin to move all kinds of different things to our borders in order to make us live in a fabulous light. So maybe all the same missiles to Cuba, so that later they wouldn’t have enough?
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 30 October 2015 21: 06 New
        0
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        So maybe all the same missiles to Cuba, so that later they wouldn’t have enough?

        What for? In the presence of an SSBN ..
  33. Old26
    Old26 30 October 2015 21: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: dvina71
    What is this nonsense? What are warheads in space? What are you talking about? They are definitely not hot there and fly in a cloud of false targets.

    Suppose, dear, you are talking nonsense. What warheads in space, and where do you think they fly in the atmosphere? Take a look at the American interceptor guidance system at the same time? And I did not write that they are hot. The phrase sounded like they "более горячие" on the background "холодного космоса"? Что означают кавычки в таком предложении надеясь Вам известно? Фраза означает, что боеголовки имеют более высокую температуру, чем окружающий космос. Точное наведение осуществляется благодаря матричной охлаждаемой инфракрасной ГСН. Именно она и позволяет идентифицировать на фоне "холодного космоса" эти "более горячие" БГ
    Flying in a cloud of false goals - it could even be. But here is the detail. The cloud of false targets is mainly for locators, it is they that give the light on its screen. But what can the pieces of foil do against the infrared seeker ???
    Moreover, Americans are trying to intercept not at the final, but at least in the middle section of the trajectory.

    Quote: dvina71
    Yes, their missile defense (European) is not designed for this. Here their task is to shoot down our rockets on take-off .. So far they cannot do this. The speed of their anti-ballistic missiles does not allow them to catch up with the launched strategist.

    Если говорить о задачах ЕвроПРО - то оно вообще не рассчитано на поражение российских МБР. Тут вы правильно сказали, что скорости у них не те. Задача сбивать на взлете пока ими не решена не столько из-за низкой скорости полета, сколько из-за месторасположения цели и перехватчика. Они слишком далеко от траектории. В перспективе они хотят попытаться используя увеличенную энергетику "Блока 2Б" попытаться это сделать, расположив носители вблизи траектории наших МБР. Но пока до этого далеко.
    Что же касается скорости противоракет, то уже сейчас у них есть противоракеты, способные "догнать" наши МБР. Но к счастью они у них только на территории США, третий позиционный район в Европе с такими перехватчиками они не стали делать...
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 30 October 2015 22: 21 New
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      Quote: Old26
      Suppose, dear, you are talking nonsense. What warheads in space, and where do you think they fly in the atmosphere?


      Apparently I didn’t express myself in the topropy accurately .. It was about your stupidity .. to hit blocks in space, pointing at them in the heat .. This is a rare nonsense .. LCs have long been no pieces of foil ..
      Quote: Old26
      If we talk about the tasks of Euro missile defense - then it is not designed to defeat Russian ICBMs

      that’s exactly what it’s designed for. What missiles do they have in PUs, how do you know? Have you been reported to the Pentagon? And it doesn’t even matter what they have now. The US has no goal of attacking the Russian Federation right tomorrow .. there is a long-term multidisciplinary work. In terms of missile defense .. it is not known what kind of missiles they will have in 10-15 years, and the bases are already standing. It is this fact that harnesses.
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  35. Old26
    Old26 30 October 2015 22: 00 New
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    Quote: dvina71
    We don’t know what the missile defense system in Europe is or will stand there, hence the kipish.

    Там у них может стоять только 2 типа ракет. Перехватчики и КР типа "Томагавк". Первые против российских ракет бесполезны, вторые против территории России - тоже. Для того, чтобы что-то поразить на территории России им нужно было бы ставить их километров на 400 севернее. Так что, хотим мы или нет, но позиционный район в Румынии адаптирован против БРСД Ирана (у других просто нет ничего подобного).
    Ну а бредовое предложение, что можно поставить на "Стандарты" ЯБЗ - чисто бредовое. Полезная нагрузка перехватчика настолько мизерная (полста килограмм, а то и меньше), что если применять компоненты БРСД - то на заряд придется такая мизерная масса, что ракета с таким зарядом станет просто экономически невыгодна

    Quote: dvina71
    they will say. EW's job is to find a weak spot and break it there. It can be assumed that the weak point is that missile defense missiles require adjustment in flight, this can be broken. Purely my guess.

    You can assume anything, but for some reason, speaking about our weapons, we a priori believe that the data transmission means are so secure that the enemy will not be able to intervene, and the enemy thinks that the systems are so unprotected that we can neutralize them. And the radius of action of electronic warfare, we sometimes consider so large ....
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 30 October 2015 22: 26 New
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      Quote: Old26
      You can assume anything, but for some reason, speaking about our weapons, we a priori believe that the data transmission means are so secure that the enemy will not be able to intervene, and the enemy thinks that the systems are so unprotected that we can neutralize them. And the radius of action of electronic warfare, we sometimes consider so large ....

      It is possible by the facts .. In the direction of the aerospace forces in Syria there is no ONE launch of MANPADS .. Even by helicopters. But the fact that the various groups that have plundered a single military depot do not have MANPADS ... it is hard to believe. And on the Syrian Air Force they shoot back regularly .. the rollers are laid out on YouTube .. They don’t even shoot from the ATGMs with helicopters, and yet they have them and they are used against aircraft from other countries.
      SPS KRET ..
  36. Mestny
    Mestny 30 October 2015 23: 34 New
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    Quote: igor.borov775
    As long as I understand, there is propaganda fuss. And the fact that they hurried with the re-equipment means only one thing. Enemy at the Gates.

    Well, how so?
    If the Americans advertise their weapons, even what is in the project is a competent advertising move, so that everyone is afraid, and generally well done.
    And if ours, then - propaganda fuss, at first do then speak, and in general everything is bad with us.
  37. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 31 October 2015 05: 54 New
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    Quote: dvina71
    Quote: Old26
    You can assume anything, but for some reason, speaking about our weapons, we a priori believe that the data transmission means are so secure that the enemy will not be able to intervene, and the enemy thinks that the systems are so unprotected that we can neutralize them. And the radius of action of electronic warfare, we sometimes consider so large ....

    It is possible by the facts .. In the direction of the aerospace forces in Syria there is no ONE launch of MANPADS .. Even by helicopters. But the fact that the various groups that have plundered a single military depot do not have MANPADS ... it is hard to believe. And on the Syrian Air Force they shoot back regularly .. the rollers are laid out on YouTube .. They don’t even shoot from the ATGMs with helicopters, and yet they have them and they are used against aircraft from other countries.
    SPS KRET ..

    And where does the MANPADS and REB systems do not mix everything into one salad. At the moment, independent of the country of manufacture are monitored individually (we must pay tribute to the United States) and therefore there are no launches on the airborne forces. Getting into a helicopter with MANPADS is a great success, and seriously consider such a way to deal with LA is stupid.
  38. valsh
    valsh 31 October 2015 07: 49 New
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    Quote: Bort Radist
    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
    in terms of creative thinking, our people have no equal!

    There were complaints that there were tubes of toothpaste empty - marriage. They gathered foreign engineers who created the conveyor, outlined the problem - to detect an empty tube. Two months later, they mounted and started the system. All products passed through the scales with a lower weight, the conveyor stopped. A week later, empty tubes stopped coming across. They ordered to know the reason. The peasants were tired of the jerking of the conveyor, they put a fan in and a stream of air began to blow away empty tubes.

    True or not, but the example is simply magnificent !!!
  39. Felix
    Felix 31 October 2015 08: 44 New
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    Quote: Алексей_К
    Quote: Bort Radist
    There were complaints that there were tubes of toothpaste empty - marriage. They gathered foreign engineers who created the conveyor, outlined the problem - to detect an empty tube. Two months later, they mounted and started the system. All products passed through the scales with a lower weight, the conveyor stopped. A week later, empty tubes stopped coming across. They ordered to know the reason. The peasants were tired of the jerking of the conveyor, they put a fan in and a stream of air began to blow away empty tubes.

    A beautiful joke, but no more. If there is a reason for the appearance of empty tubes, then they do not solve the problem of removing these tubes from the conveyor, but decide how to prevent the appearance of empty tubes. Those. how to make sure all tubes are filled.
    So all this fictional joke is complete nonsense.


    Well ... not really. A similar problem in production is solved so that it turns out cheaper. If the percentage of empty tubes is small, it’s cheaper to install a fan.
  40. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 31 October 2015 10: 59 New
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    In many industries, marriage from the assembly line is blown away by air, this has been done for a long time, just take an interest in technological processes and there will be no jokes.
  41. Oleko
    Oleko 31 October 2015 14: 10 New
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    What element base is made on? Domestic used?
    1. sw247
      sw247 31 October 2015 19: 55 New
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      Во втором ролике при "включении компьютера" играла мелодия загрузки Windows. Остаётся надеяться, что это режиссёрская озвучка.
  42. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 31 October 2015 16: 44 New
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    But we make rockets, and we conquer the Yenisei, and also in the field of ballet we are ahead of the rest (Vysotsky)

    It is very pleasing that electronic warfare systems are added to first-class missiles, first-class weapons, and advanced nuclear industry (both peaceful and military). smile
  43. Navy7981
    Navy7981 31 October 2015 23: 19 New
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    Once a statement has been made about this, then it already exists. Such things are not reported ahead of time. Like, we are in a couple of years .... Like, we need to attack now ... So I think this statement is not for us, but for freaks.
  44. complete zero
    complete zero 1 November 2015 09: 35 New
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    I don’t know how KRET is there, it’s quite possible that it’s PR, here not so long ago there was a comment of a Special Officer for this electronic warfare, and so not everyone there is so cloudless with these systems ... well, a pro duck is an advertised campaign like the program star warrior in the eighties ... Guaranteed protection against nuclear weapons simply does not exist
  45. stur
    stur 1 November 2015 09: 52 New
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    How did you get with your abbreviations - CRET, REB, PRO, that you save bytes, too lazy to write - well, don’t write at all. In general, the information in the article is practically zero. Everyone has heard about the asymmetric answer. Do you have something specific? Spam and nothing more.
    1. complete zero
      complete zero 1 November 2015 10: 10 New
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      KRET is a Russian concern (how do you label it differently?) Based on your BMW proposal, it also needs to be decrypted))))
  46. Are
    Are 1 November 2015 11: 36 New
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    Новый лозунг : " КРЭТ ничего не создает, что направлено против США и НАТО !!"
    This must be inserted in response to the verbiage of NATO and its main master
  47. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 1 November 2015 16: 11 New
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    Quote: Dali
    Quote: complete zero
    с радио взрывателем все понятно,не понятно другое ракеты есть ведь не только наводящиеся по "лучу" но есть ОЛС (тепловая головка) их то как обнаружить?
    Look with 3m40s ... it turns out that the methods for guiding enemy missiles have nothing to do with it !!! Even if without guidance systems at all ...

    why then the tornado rs without volume detonation in the air explode not reaching the ground? how so
  48. derik1970
    derik1970 2 November 2015 06: 36 New
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    If only all KRET products did not turn out to be fiction on paper and self-promotion, because they use designs from the 60-70s, but they are mass-produced ... it’s sad that there are more than enough people who want to throw hats ... by the way, they really fool the homing head working in a TV signal or infrared range is not real ...
  49. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 2 November 2015 08: 29 New
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    Сказали ,- значит сделают . Пименение даннных систем на практике уже показали их высокую боевую эффективность ! Там ученые сидят , а не "эффективные менеджеры".