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The Chinese rule “one family - one child” is becoming a thing of the past

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The Plenum of the Communist Party of China adopted a communiqué, which refers to the softening of the national policy of birth control. Now Chinese families are allowed to have two children, reports TASS message agency "Xinhua."




The “one family - one child” birth control policy was proclaimed by the state at the end of 70, and had a goal to reduce the rapid demographic growth. In the countryside, it was allowed to have a second child if the girl was born first. But in the cities the second child could bring great troubles to parents - from the imposition of a fine to dismissal from the service, and, worst of all, exclusion from the Communist Party. Well, of course - public condemnation.

Gradually, politics began to soften, exceptions to the rule appeared, and, in principle, it became much easier to have two children. It was necessary to submit an application and, if the couple was the only children of their parents, then they were allowed to give birth to the second.

“Meanwhile, in 2014, less than 1 million Chinese married couples have applied for the birth of their second child, which is half that predicted. According to opinion polls, urban families still prefer, for financial reasons, to limit themselves to the birth and upbringing of one child. Of these, only 60-65% would like to have a second child; in rural families, this figure reaches 90%, ”the agency writes.

In Beijing, they recognized that birth control policies led to social imbalances.

“Thus, the population is rapidly aging in the country, it is predicted that the model of the traditional Chinese family" 1-6 ", when the parents of the only child will be his parents, two grandmothers and two grandfathers, the newspaper writes. “With the current dynamics of aging by 2050, every third citizen of China will be more than 60 years old, and the number of pensioners will exceed the population of the United States.”

A gender bias also occurred: “among children younger than 15, for every 100 girls, there are 118 boys, which could be a serious destabilizing social factor in the future,” Xin Hua notes.

By the way, according to the statistics of the People's Republic of China, at the beginning of 2015 g, the population of the country was 1 367 820 thousand people. (excluding the Hong Kong and Macao administrations, as well as the islands of Taiwan).
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  1. marlin1203
    marlin1203 30 October 2015 09: 03 New
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    Kids are great! But where to hide from the Chinese now? what
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 October 2015 09: 04 New
      +6
      Quote: marlin1203
      ! But where to hide from the Chinese now?

      If you live in Beijing, then I don’t even know what to advise you.
      1. atalef
        atalef 30 October 2015 11: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: marlin1203
        ! But where to hide from the Chinese now?

        If you live in Beijing, then I don’t even know what to advise you.

        The Chinese stock exchange will begin to grow in the near future, which is good.
    2. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 09: 07 New
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      Quote: marlin1203
      Kids are great! But where to hide from the Chinese now? what

      While there will be no more. To save the population, there must be an 2,3 child on the network.

      We need to give birth. Few of us.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 October 2015 09: 57 New
        +3
        There will be a problem with this - Russia ranks first in the world in divorce rates.
      2. atalef
        atalef 30 October 2015 11: 09 New
        0
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        While there will be no more. To save the population, there must be 2,3 children per network

        More as it will be
        The policy of one family, one child was adopted in the early 70's (as far as I remember) i.e. in theory, this year the population of China should have been decreasing, well, maybe not right away, but after five years, what we actually see.
        in the early 70's === 960 million
        2015 - 1270 million
        Your explanation
        1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 30 October 2015 13: 54 New
          +2
          There were still more children than parents, and with the replacement of generations, the number grew. I explain: Two parents had 6 children. 6 children have 9 grandchildren (1,5 per child), divide 9/2 because there is only one parent from this family. It turns out for two old people - 4,5 grandchildren while reducing the number of children in the family. Those who were born in the 50s and 60s are still alive, but they are becoming the most numerous generation that the CCP wants to avoid, therefore it introduces mitigation. One family - one child - this is just an idea. Actually in the countryside there were at least two. And the population until recently was mostly rural. Under the current policy with two children, the population of the PRC in 20 years should still decrease slightly due to the retirement of the most numerous generation of children who were given birth without any restrictions.
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar 30 October 2015 15: 25 New
            +1
            A bit turned on the head, analysis, logic ... Passion ...
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 October 2015 17: 00 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Your explanation

          Leaky condoms - Chinese quality lol
        3. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 18: 48 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          More as it will be
          The policy of one family, one child was adopted in the early 70's (as far as I remember) i.e. in theory, this year the population of China should have been decreasing, well, maybe not right away, but after five years, what we actually see.
          in the early 70's === 960 million
          2015 - 1270 million
          Your explanation

          Mathematics is a stubborn thing. Cannot grow if 1 per family.
          1. andj61
            andj61 30 October 2015 19: 07 New
            +1
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Mathematics is a stubborn thing. Cannot grow if 1 per family.

            It can grow, it can!
            The fact is that in the early 70s the structure of the population of China was not today, there were a lot of young people and children - the population under 25 years old accounted for three quarters of the population, and life expectancy due to poor living conditions, poor medical care, etc. was low.
            After the ban on the second child was introduced for a long time, ALREADY born, entered the reproductive age, and even with one child in the family, the population grew. Then they allowed to have two children in the village - there this ban was not particularly implemented. After the reforms, a decent layer - almost up to hundreds of millions - that could afford to have many children, despite fines - and had them. In addition, life expectancy increased - somewhere from 50 to 74 years.
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 20: 32 New
              0
              Even if it is. Moreover, it is necessary to raise the birth rate in Russia. And not to exchange children for gadgets and travel abroad for "rest".
        4. Down House
          Down House 30 October 2015 20: 12 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Your explanation

          In rural areas, it was allowed to have a second child if a girl was born first.
          1. atalef
            atalef 30 October 2015 20: 46 New
            0
            Quote: Down House
            In rural areas, it was allowed to have a second child if a girl was born first.

            You’re not telling me this, but tell me everything.
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 31 October 2015 09: 38 New
              0
              Quote: atalef
              This is you neither me

              Once again for the gifted. fool

              Reproduction of the population - a change of generations as a result of the natural movement of the population. Reproduction is determined by fertility and mortality. It is believed [1] that To maintain simple reproduction of the population, it is necessary that there are 100 children per 258 married couples.


              That is, I brought 2,3, but I need 2,58 children per family.
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 30 October 2015 16: 59 New
        0
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        We need to give birth

        Get down laughing
        1. atalef
          atalef 30 October 2015 17: 05 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          We need to give birth

          Get down laughing

          Sanya - he meant - you and him wassat
      4. mark2
        mark2 30 October 2015 17: 53 New
        0
        And you should not be many, otherwise the Chinese will have nowhere to live. The news is not very good. Sooner or later there will be a lot more, but there will be no more space. while they are trying to chop off something in the South China Sea, but then they will definitely pay attention to us.
        1. Down House
          Down House 30 October 2015 20: 15 New
          0
          Quote: mark2
          but then they will pay attention to us.

          They will pay attention to us in the last place - they and besides us are full of much more interesting neighbors for "observation" on the border.
    3. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 30 October 2015 09: 09 New
      12
      Quote: marlin1203
      Kids are great! But where to hide from the Chinese now?

      And they, there, an hour, not aimed at our Far East with Siberia? Or do they expect to continue to live on five per square meter?
      1. Alexei
        Alexei 30 October 2015 09: 19 New
        +5
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        And they, there, an hour, not aimed at our Far East with Siberia?

        The very same thought flickered.
        1. dvg79
          dvg79 30 October 2015 09: 35 New
          +3
          On their maps, our Far East is designated as a territory temporarily occupied by Russians. Therefore, I think it’s understandable.
        2. KG_patriot_last
          KG_patriot_last 30 October 2015 09: 39 New
          +3
          In your own map between Russia and China lies steppe Mongolia. Less than 10 million people live on its territory ...
          1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
            Uncle VasyaSayapin 30 October 2015 14: 10 New
            +2
            The population of Mongolia is 3 million. hi
          2. Karlovar
            Karlovar 30 October 2015 17: 34 New
            +1
            In Mongolia, less than 3 million people live .... Even Mongolia, the Chinese are not going to conquer in any way !!! How long will we wait, in the sense of confirming the "Chinese threat" .... Well, it's a sin not to conquer Mongolia, they still count with bows and scimitars across the steppe ... The number of Mongolian army is in the region of 10 thousand fighters !
            1. mark2
              mark2 30 October 2015 17: 50 New
              0
              And what is there to do in the bare steppe? Toli case Siberia and the Far East! Chistara, a virtually untouched territory, with forests, rivers, lakes, fish, fertile land, resources.
              1. Karlovar
                Karlovar 30 October 2015 19: 18 New
                0
                And then in Mongolia the nature is touched, there are no lakes, rivers ... There are endless steppes (grass grows in the steppes, sheep graze ... for food), and mother does not cry for any resources there! And the Mongol army as much as 10 thousand soldiers ... with Kalash ...
              2. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 20: 16 New
                0
                Quote: mark2
                And what is there to do in the bare steppe? Toli case Siberia and the Far East! Chistara, a virtually untouched territory, with forests, rivers, lakes, fish, fertile land, resources.

                How much you like to spit in your own country, I wonder at your masochism in vain. And it’s okay, one or two of these senile spitters would be ...

                Fortunately, not all of you are hopeless.
              3. Down House
                Down House 30 October 2015 20: 17 New
                0
                Quote: mark2
                Toli case Siberia and the Far East!

                Yeah! And for six months it’s such a winter that the truck mirrors like snot fall off the frost!
        3. Deniska
          Deniska 30 October 2015 12: 39 New
          0
          Well, where ...
      2. SSR
        SSR 30 October 2015 09: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Quote: marlin1203
        Kids are great! But where to hide from the Chinese now?

        And they, there, an hour, not aimed at our Far East with Siberia? Or do they expect to continue to live on five per square meter?

        Chinese family in the kitchen.
        Honey, our firstborn grew up as a complete selfish "emperor", everything was for him and only for his sake. Now we have a chance to correct this mistake, we can conceive a second child and the very birth we will aim it at the Russian Far East! We will not let him huddle together, but five per square meter! There, in Russia in the Far East, people who are close to us live as in the Uygur Autonomous Okrug, why “heal” it in a territory with a similar belief, mentality or climate like on the Hainan Island?

        I'm exaggerating, of course, but there is one principle of life. If you are afraid of someone and constantly say and think that "he" will attack you, he will definitely attack. Then when they ask the attacker - why did you attack Vasya? The attacker himself cannot explain his motivation ... only inaudible
        - He was he who looked suspiciously at me.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 30 October 2015 10: 07 New
          +2
          Quote: SSR
          If you are afraid of someone and constantly say and think that "he" will attack you, he will definitely attack.

          And who said that "I am personally" or "I, as a small part of my country," am afraid of someone? If I was afraid of someone, then, probably, my life would not have lived the way it happened.
      3. Tersky
        Tersky 30 October 2015 09: 29 New
        +9
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Or do they expect to continue to live on five per square meter?

        The average population density in China is relatively small, the figure is 138 people per square kilometer, this is the equivalent of France, Poland, Switzerland and Portugal, they certainly can not be attributed to the problems of overpopulation. In neighboring India and Japan, this figure is 2,5 times higher - there the population density is about 363 and 335 people, respectively. Colleague, hi ..
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 30 October 2015 10: 04 New
          +3
          Quote: Tersky
          China's average population density is relatively small

          Quote: Tersky
          it is the equivalent of France, Poland, Switzerland and Portugal

          Average density is like the average temperature in a hospital. Is there such a relief in Poland as in China?

          In general, in my subjective opinion, in Germany, for example, the people live much more densely than in the same Poland. Compared specifically. Here, for example. I went to the dacha, drove 20 km from the city and around - nowhere to see housing. One Trans-Volga steppe. In Poland - if in one direction to the horizon of the field, then in the other - there must be houses of some kind. And in Germany - in any direction of the house you can see. I have never seen that there is space to the horizon. And "Father-Rhine" next to the Volga is like a carpenter against a carpenter, a petty stinker ...
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar 30 October 2015 17: 39 New
            0
            The Czech population density is the same as in China .... The free land is inundated. The lion's share of the territory is untouched forests, people live in small towns of 5-10-15 thousand people, do not huddle in 100-story skyscrapers (from the lack of typical areas ) ..
          2. Down House
            Down House 30 October 2015 20: 19 New
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            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Is there such a relief in Poland as in China?

            In Japan, the relief is not any better, but in general during the era of industrialization, the main population settles in cities, and the country's relief is not terrible for cities.
        2. Per se.
          Per se. 30 October 2015 10: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: Tersky
          China's average population density is relatively small
          It's not just about the average density, in the Sahara the "average density" is generally negligible, the point is in natural resources, primarily drinking water, strategically important territories for the development of agriculture and the economy as a whole, as well as convenient land for living. The Japanese have sparsely populated Hokkaido, but they have views of our South Kuriles and are ready to go to hell with the same Chinese for tiny disputed islands in the South China Sea, these are questions of geopolitics, which in our country, until recently, was not even considered a science.
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 30 October 2015 11: 15 New
            +6
            Quote: Per se.
            It's not only about the average density, in the Sahara the "average density" is generally negligible, the point is in natural resources, primarily drinking water, strategically important territories for the development of agriculture and the economy in general, as well as convenient land for living

            Most of what the Celestial Empire needs to receive from Russia, it has been receiving for a long time - moreover, on favorable terms for itself, and it would be monstrous stupidity for Peking politicians to focus its strategy on conquering the North. The Chinese leadership has not yet been noticed in this stupidity, and if it is not covered by the "dizziness of success" that has deprived the sovereign mind of the rulers of another neighbor of Russia - Turkey, which has got involved in the Syrian conflict, then political insanity will not threaten it. Regarding Japan, a major statesman of the conservative camp, Pyotr Nikolaevich Durnovo, in his note to Nicholas 2 back in February 1914, noted: “Having taken possession of Korea and Formosa (Taiwan), Japan will hardly go north, and its desires ... will rather be directed towards the Philippine Islands, Indochina, Java, Sumatra and Borneo. The most that she, perhaps, would strive for is to acquire, for purely commercial reasons, some further sections of the Manchurian Railway. " The forecast of the Russian dignitary was brilliantly confirmed. The Yamato state went exactly in the geopolitical direction indicated by Durnovo. For the sake of creating the "sphere of co-prosperity of the Great East Asia", which was to include China and the European colonies lying south of its borders, up to Australia, the Mikado government, having established control over all of Manchuria, decided to unleash a war unprecedented in this region in the Pacific Ocean basin. Modern China is on the same path. Yours faithfully, hi !
            1. Per se.
              Per se. 30 October 2015 14: 18 New
              +1
              Quote: Tersky
              On the same path and modern China. Respectfully, !
              Dear Victor, of course, the Celestial Empire receives "most" from Russia, and on favorable terms, but far from everything that China needs for development and banal survival. In addition, as the annoying advertising says, “there is no cheaper price than nothing,” and it is much more profitable. Aggression can be understood literally, how the conflict began in Damansky, or you can squeeze out your interests more cunningly, as the same Damansky was squeezed later, and in addition to our land, with the so-called "demarcation" of the border, or how the Albanians wrested Kosovo from Serbia. While China is lagging behind us in military technology, so they smile at us, beg to sell the latest S-400 and Su-35 complexes, but this is for now. When there will be nothing more to fish out from Russia, and a multi-million army, well trained and equipped with modern weapons, will most likely not smile at us anymore. Do not forget that China has territorial claims to all neighboring countries, and has not given up on them "in the name of humanism". As for imperial Japan, firstly, one thing is Japan of the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905 and the First World War, already somewhat different, Japan during the Second World War. The samurai attacked in 1941 not on the USA in Pearl Harbor, but on the Soviet Union, even "grandmother said in two" how history would turn. The Chinese are not stupid, the lessons of history have long been studying and drawing conclusions. Without our northern territories, China will never become a full-fledged superpower, and if it does, it will, unlike the Japanese in World War II, climb not on some Medway as the main strike, but on the Aleutian Islands and Alaska, if it wishes to invade to the States, without which the same Japanese could not win over the Yankees in World War II, at least this was, perhaps, their only chance.
              1. Tersky
                Tersky 30 October 2015 14: 34 New
                +5
                Quote: Per se.
                When there is nothing more to find out from Russia in this, and on our border there will be a well-trained and equipped with modern weapons multimillion army, most likely, they will no longer smile at us.

                Well, this is unlikely ... The strategic prospects of modern China, like Japan in the 20s and 30s, lie not north of its borders, but in the South Seas and Southeast Asia, as well as in integration, first economic, and then political, with Japan and Korea. Against this geopolitical background, the Russian Far East, together with all of Siberia, is of secondary, narrow, and very specific interest for the "Yellow Dragon." Of course, there are many in China who want to "grow" with Siberia. Nevertheless, Beijing will not want, and indeed will not be able, to make the Siberian direction the main vector of its geopolitical movement. In essence, Beijing does not need annexations in Siberia and the Far East, and Russia does not need an unconventional "indemnity" in the form of low prices for raw materials and their supplies in the required quantities due to corruption, cowardice, laziness, mediocrity, mismanagement and irresponsibility of the authorities has been paying China for a long time. Beijing is quite satisfied with the status quo in our East. It is in his (but by no means in Russian) interests - to be there not a master, but a state poacher, which he is now.
                Sergey, hi !
                1. Karlovar
                  Karlovar 30 October 2015 17: 55 New
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                  Of course! The ultimate goal of China is to drag Korea and Japan (to the heap all of Southeast Asia) into a trade and economic union .... Although the task is difficult! But the road will be overpowered ...
            2. g1v2
              g1v2 30 October 2015 16: 11 New
              +1
              Everything in my opinion is simpler. If we weaken again, then on our lands not only China and Japan, but even Estonia and Finland will have a fight. While we are in force - territorial claims will remain in the words of the populists. China is now more necessary for us as an ally, but it is not worth provoking it with weakness.
            3. Karlovar
              Karlovar 30 October 2015 17: 51 New
              0
              Buying in modern realities is most affordable than trying to conquer .... Here people, when they go to the bazaar for potatoes, how is it more profitable for them: to pay (buy) the seller or to put a knife to his throat and pick it up for free (according to the Criminal Code is this robbery article)? ???
          2. Karlovar
            Karlovar 30 October 2015 17: 45 New
            0
            The Chinese mainly (the lion's share) live on the east coast (it’s warm there, pomegranate grows, the sea, beaches, romance, dvizhuha, babosik can easily be cut down a lot) ... In the western and northern provinces (it is cold, snow, blizzards, snowstorms , no romance) you can’t drive them with a stick, although the government has a program to populate the western and northern provinces ...
        3. Karlovar
          Karlovar 30 October 2015 17: 36 New
          0
          The population density of England is greater than in China ... What a joke!
      4. Karlovar
        Karlovar 30 October 2015 17: 28 New
        0
        The population density in China is less than in England, Germany ....
    4. Alez
      Alez 30 October 2015 09: 27 New
      +1
      Look at the root. China is preparing for war.
    5. sir_obs
      sir_obs 30 October 2015 09: 54 New
      +3
      And if we also have permission to eat with spoons, then finally ...
      1. jjj
        jjj 30 October 2015 10: 03 New
        +3
        Only in practice, in the most successful regions and cities of China today there are not many people who want to have many children. The higher the standard of living, the less children are needed.
    6. sherp2015
      sherp2015 30 October 2015 10: 16 New
      0
      Quote: marlin1203
      Kids are great! But where to hide from the Chinese now?

      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      If you live in Beijing, then I don’t even know what to advise you.


      The Chinese are already teeming in the Far East. Probably tens of millions.
      What will happen next can only be assumed ...
      1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 30 October 2015 14: 14 New
        +1
        The alarmists are shot. Have you seen tens of millions? Then don't *** ****** b.
        1. Karlovar
          Karlovar 30 October 2015 17: 59 New
          0
          He is not a panicist, he is a dreamer .... Evdokimov has a song on this subject, good, I really like ...
      2. Karlovar
        Karlovar 30 October 2015 17: 58 New
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        You're wrong! The Chinese in the Far East already Hundreds of millions .... Ask Romanov, he is in the know ....
    7. Koshak
      Koshak 30 October 2015 13: 39 New
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      Quote: marlin1203
      Kids are great! But where to hide from the Chinese now? what

      Most importantly, the Chinese do not learn to eat with spoons. Then global hunger will come.
  2. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 30 October 2015 09: 06 New
    +4
    Yes, we would have their fertility problems. It is alarming, in fact, to keep such a territory with such a birth rate in the near future, a holy place does not happen to be empty.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 30 October 2015 09: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: iliitch
      Yes, we would have their fertility problems. It is alarming, in fact, to keep such a territory with such a birth rate in the near future, a holy place does not happen to be empty.

      Once I wrote recently -
      Do you know that if the Chinese cross the Russian border at a speed of 100 thousand people per hour, then they will go 570 days !!!!!!!!!!
      Personally, it somehow scares me ... laughing
    2. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 30 October 2015 11: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: iliitch
      Yes, we would have their fertility problems.

      A ban on abortion and fertility will increase at least one and a half times.
      1. Down House
        Down House 30 October 2015 20: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Misha Honest
        A ban on abortion and fertility will increase at least one and a half times.

        And the number of clandestine abortions will increase, the death rate among the working-age population, and the number of unwanted children who will become victims in the hands of parents who did not want them, will also increase.
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 20: 35 New
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          Quote: Down House
          And the number of clandestine abortions will increase

          15 to 20 per kill will fix the situation. wink
          1. atalef
            atalef 30 October 2015 20: 47 New
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            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Quote: Down House
            And the number of clandestine abortions will increase

            15 to 20 per kill will fix the situation. wink

            No one has ever been able to forcibly increase birth rates or make parents and children happy in a violent way.
            1. Down House
              Down House 30 October 2015 22: 23 New
              0
              Quote: atalef
              children happy.

              And it’s not even philosophical happiness, but initially unwanted parents (and more often than one parent) children have every chance of unwanted and grow up and replenish at best detoxification centers, in the worst prison.
            2. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 31 October 2015 20: 04 New
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              Quote: atalef
              No one has ever been able to forcibly increase birth rates or make parents and children happy in a violent way.

              But, in the countries of Europe and the USA, people are purely unhappy, judging by the birth rate. Morality - happiness is not in money. wink
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        3. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 30 October 2015 21: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: Down House
          And the number of clandestine abortions will increase, the death rate among the working-age population, and the number of unwanted children who will become victims in the hands of parents who did not want them, will also increase.

          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          15 to 20 per kill will fix the situation.

          The death penalty for a doctor and from 15 to 20 parents will rectify the situation.) Since illegal abortion is essentially killing a child.
          Quote: atalef
          No one has ever been able to forcibly increase birth rates or make parents and children happy in a violent way.

          And abortion - in fact, killing a baby, of course, makes everyone happy at once ?!
          1. Down House
            Down House 31 October 2015 00: 19 New
            0
            Quote: Misha Honest
            And abortion - in fact, killing a baby, of course, makes everyone happy at once ?!

            It's murder, of course - but not "quite" a baby.
            And if we continue this logic, then any sexual intercourse that did not end in conception should be considered a murder - but what will we come to if we talk like that?
            And the point is not that it makes someone happy, but that this is one of the first ways to make many unhappy.
            And I don’t have to go far for examples! The native nephew, who was neither needed by the walking mother nor his father, received his first term at 16 years old, after having preliminarily shook his nerves and parents and stepfather and grandparents - and he was only at the beginning of his journey.
            And how many more thousands and even hundreds of thousands of such restless people will start wandering the streets in the future, if today the unlucky "mothers" are forbidden to have abortions ?!
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 31 October 2015 09: 23 New
              0
              Quote: Down House
              It's murder, of course - but not "quite" a baby.

              From "not quite a baby" one step to "subhuman". We know very well how it ends.

              Quote: Down House
              And if we continue this logic, then any sexual intercourse that did not end in conception should be considered a murder - but what will we come to if we talk like that?

              Or maybe people fill life with sex because there is no result?

              Quote: Down House
              The native nephew, who didn’t need either a walking mother or his father, got his first term at 16 years old, having preliminarily shook his nerves and parents and stepfather and grandparents - and he was only at the beginning of his journey.

              So I say that children grow up abandoned by strangers uncles and aunts - teachers and educators who also do not need them.
              Here is a masterpiece of such an abandoned child.
              [img] https://pp.vk.me/c7010/v7010741/1b41a/rXviaxPoguE.jpg
              [/ Img]

              Quote: Down House
              And how many more thousands and even hundreds of thousands of such restless people will start wandering the streets in the future, if today the unlucky "mothers" are forbidden to have abortions ?!

              Or maybe a vaginotomy with the rest of the princes will help? You don’t have to kill anyone.
            2. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 31 October 2015 09: 47 New
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              Quote: Down House
              It's murder, of course - but not "quite" a baby.

              From "not quite a baby" one step to "subhuman". We know very well how it ends.

              Quote: Down House
              And if we continue this logic, then any sexual intercourse that did not end in conception should be considered a murder - but what will we come to if we talk like that?

              Or maybe people fill life with sex because there is no result?

              Quote: Down House
              The native nephew, who didn’t need either a walking mother or his father, got his first term at 16 years old, having preliminarily shook his nerves and parents and stepfather and grandparents - and he was only at the beginning of his journey.

              So I say that children grow up abandoned by strangers uncles and aunts - teachers and educators who also do not need them.
              Here is a masterpiece of such an abandoned child.


              Quote: Down House
              And how many more thousands and even hundreds of thousands of such restless people will start wandering the streets in the future, if today the unlucky "mothers" are forbidden to have abortions ?!

              Or maybe a vaginotomy with the rest of the princes will help? You don’t have to kill anyone.
            3. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 31 October 2015 11: 41 New
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              Quote: Down House
              It's murder, of course - but not "quite" a baby.

              What then to call - Embryo? It sounds very dry and rude - purely American. How?
              Quote: Down House
              And if we continue this logic, then any sexual intercourse that did not end in conception should be considered a murder - but what will we come to if we talk like that?

              I don’t even want to comment on this - complete nonsense.
              Quote: Down House
              And the point is not that it makes someone happy, but that this is one of the first ways to make many unhappy.

              I do not agree - since no one can know what fate awaits this child before his birth. Can you poke your finger and say - this one will be a killer - this thief, etc.?
              Quote: Down House
              And I don’t have to go far for examples! The native nephew, who was neither needed by the walking mother nor his father, received his first term at 16 years old, after having preliminarily shook his nerves and parents and stepfather and grandparents - and he was only at the beginning of his journey.

              And can you clarify, is this your own nephew? Your native blood And personally, you did not try to do anything to help the guy not get on the curve, although you knew what his family is? Simply put, you just watched indifferently or censured and continue to do so? Then it is not only his or his parents' fault, but also yours - relatives, his friends, his teachers, etc.
              Quote: Down House
              And how many more thousands and even hundreds of thousands of such restless people will start wandering the streets in the future, if today the unlucky "mothers" are forbidden to have abortions ?!

              More often than not, such naughty moms do not have abortions. More often than not, abortions are made by normal female women, from families of middle and higher affluence. Here - go and see how much an abortion costs - http://cpmed.ru/abort-price
    3. Karlovar
      Karlovar 30 October 2015 18: 03 New
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      Demography is the main geopolitical weapon of any power .... No wonder the West for nearly a thousand years methodically knocked out the population of Russia-Russia-USSR in wars !!! The last combination, the dissolution of the USSR ..., there were 270 million people, 140 left ....
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 20: 36 New
        0
        Quote: Karlovar
        No wonder the West

        The West itself is dying by leaps and bounds.
      2. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 20: 36 New
        0
        Quote: Karlovar
        No wonder the West

        The West itself is dying by leaps and bounds.
  3. Poppy
    Poppy 30 October 2015 09: 06 New
    +2
    they have already crossed the border; in any case, their population will decline
    these only children, for the most part, will not want two children
  4. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 30 October 2015 09: 08 New
    +2
    Now they will tremble to Russia with tripled strength. Colonize the Far East.
  5. roskot
    roskot 30 October 2015 09: 09 New
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    How can one get into such a sphere of personal life. One child. Allowed two.
    We are encouraged to give birth, they are allowed. Everyone must think with his own head.
  6. EFA
    EFA 30 October 2015 09: 10 New
    +2
    Yes, not everything is smooth with the territory of China, and there are deserts - where no one will live at all. And already 1,3 billion ... In India, this is better, but there the birth rate is limited by the extreme poverty of the majority of the population (more or less). In China, the situation is a little better, but not everyone can afford two children for economic reasons.

    In general, China has indeed demographic problems in the distant future, and if you do not solve them now, then perhaps in the future they will also have migrant workers, in which case, most likely, the Chinese economy will go down.
    1. 222222
      222222 30 October 2015 09: 28 New
      +2
      The population density of the countries of the world-person per 1 sq km
      = 55place China 140.00

      -180 Russia 8.00
      181 Central African Republic 7.00
      182 Kazakhstan 6.00

      193 Mongolia 2.00


      141 United States 33.00
      33 UK 254.00

      35 Germany 229.00


      "" The population of the Far East is more than 7,6 million people. The urban population is about 76%. The Far East is the most sparsely populated region of the Russian Federation. The average density of its population is 1,2 people. per 1 km2. The population is distributed extremely unevenly across the territory of the district. The highest density is more than 12 people. in the Primorsky Territory. The southern part of Sakhalin is quite densely populated. At the same time, in the Republic of Sakha, Magadan and Kamchatka regions, the population density is only 0,3-0,8 people. per 1 km2. The population is distinguished by its variegated ethnic composition. The overwhelming majority of the population is Russian. There are also many Ukrainians, Tatars, Jews and a large group of indigenous peoples - Koryaks, Nanais, Nivkhs, Ulchi, Udegeis, Itelmens, Evenks, Aleuts, Chukchi, Eskimos, etc. "
      .on Fig. Density of the population of Russia by subjects as of 31
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 October 2015 10: 00 New
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        The time will come and China will chop off our Far East, but first colonize Mongolia and Kazakhstan.
      2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 30 October 2015 14: 28 New
        +1
        6,3 million, not 7,6. And at the same time it constantly falls. The population lives mainly in the south - on the border with China.
    2. demon1978
      demon1978 30 October 2015 10: 06 New
      +5
      Quote: EFA
      In India, this is better, but the birth rate there is limited by the extreme poverty of the majority of the population (more or less).


      Poverty has never been an obstacle to fertility, but rather request


      Thus, it is not surprising that German scientists did not record China at all as fertility leaders, but Africa. According to statistics, at the moment the Black Continent is inhabited by 944 million people, but by 2050 they will be 2 billion - an increase of more than double. Now, statistics show that for every woman in African countries there are an average of five children. It should be borne in mind that all women are meant: those who give birth and those who remain childless. This means that, on average, every woman of productive age in Africa gives birth to far more than five children.
      http://www.zagranitsa.info/article.php?new=396&idart=3961

      If in the 1970s. the average Chinese married couple had 5,8 children, now it is 1,8. To keep the number of inhabitants at a stable level, this figure should be 2,1. At the same time, a certain inertia is inherent in demographic indicators, so for now the population of the PRC is growing - but exclusively at the expense of "old baggage."
      If the current trends continue, the population of the "Celestial Empire" will begin to decline in the 2030s, as a result of which, by the middle of the XNUMXst century, India will become the most populous state in the world.
      http://www.languages-study.com/demography/china.html

      So, not everything is so simple ... yes
      1. EFA
        EFA 30 October 2015 10: 37 New
        +1
        The best obstacle to fertility is, first of all, education, then the environment and then the economy.

        Now ask yourself why this is so in Africa?
        Also keep in mind that "civilized" countries provide humanitarian assistance to African countries, which in a sense improves the economic situation of families.
        Here is the answer.

        If you look at China and India, it’s a bit more complicated there, because you need to take into account and industrialization of society, integration into the world community, including religious aspects and mentality.
        1. demon1978
          demon1978 30 October 2015 11: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: EFA
          Also keep in mind that "civilized" countries provide humanitarian assistance to African countries, which in a sense improves the economic situation of families.
          Here is the answer.


          You think ???

          Such a rapid population growth is mainly poor and underdeveloped African states simply can not withstand. The absolute majority of them do not have the slightest opportunity to provide for the basic needs of their residents, so that they are completely dependent on outside help. And here, by and large, there will be no money - the huge amount of humanitarian aid of? 60 billion adopted by the G-XNUMX leaders in June in Heiligendamm (Russia does not participate in Africa's financial assistance) turns out to be completely insignificant against the background of a much broader need. Currently, in countries south of the Sahara Desert, one in four children under five is starving.

          A similar situation develops to one degree or another in most developing countries. As a result of the population explosion, most of these states do not even have the hope of an effective fight against poverty and hunger. Dr. Renate Ber, project manager for Earth Population, called on Western governments to redirect some of the humanitarian money to developing targeted family planning and reproductive health programs — areas that have so far received a minimum of funds. In general, experts from Hanover predicted that by 2050 the population in developing countries (with the exception of China) would grow by 62% - from the current 4,1 billion people to 6,6 billion.
          http://www.zagranitsa.info/article.php?new=396&idart=3961
        2. Down House
          Down House 30 October 2015 20: 25 New
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          Quote: EFA

          Now ask yourself why this is so in Africa?

          There is no ban on child labor and no pensions. Children from an early age work and feed their parents.
      2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 30 October 2015 14: 32 New
        +1
        At least one reasonable koment. And then you read - everything is already imposed in the pants.hi
  7. Engineer
    Engineer 30 October 2015 09: 15 New
    +1
    The Chinese already have a rather high standard of living, a high degree of urbanization, so that young families take the example of Europeans and no longer give birth, a career comes first.
    1. dvg79
      dvg79 30 October 2015 09: 40 New
      +1
      This is true only for coastal cities, in the center is dominated by rural residents whose life has not changed too much, especially in terms of adherence to traditions.
  8. mpzss
    mpzss 30 October 2015 09: 16 New
    +1
    that you got to the bottom of the Chinese, and there are a lot of people, but in India there are ONLY 200 thousand less, and the country's area is also MUCH smaller than in China, so they need to be resettled somewhere!
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 30 October 2015 10: 14 New
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      Quote: mpzss
      that you got to the bottom of the Chinese, and there are a lot of people, but in India there are ONLY 200 thousand less, and the country's area is also MUCH smaller than in China, so they need to be resettled somewhere!

      India does not claim the territory of Russia. And China - only Russian nuclear weapons pretend and restrain it.
      1. your1970
        your1970 30 October 2015 10: 36 New
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        In addition, on the road to Russia from the Indians, Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Pakistan, the same China.
        And China borders with the Russian Federation, and if in the Far East the population is even a little decent, then further along the border there is practically no population there ...
        This is a little frightening, creeping emigration (when two arrived, gave birth to two or three, those are already citizens by the fact of birth and already 25 years old) no one canceled. The pressure is growing on Russians (and Russian-speaking) ....
        1. demon1978
          demon1978 30 October 2015 11: 59 New
          +2
          Quote: your1970
          This is a little frightening, creeping emigration (when two arrived, gave birth to two or three, those are already citizens by the fact of birth and already 25 years old) no one canceled. The pressure is growing on Russians (and Russian-speaking) ....


          There is rich experience in the UAE with labor migrants. yes

          The population of the UAE is 8,264 million people, the vast majority of whom (88,5%) are expatriates (labor migrants). The indigenous population with a total number of 948 thousand people (11,5%) is mainly represented by Sunni Muslims. The ratio of men and women among the indigenous population is 479.109 males and 468.888 females. Among expatriates - 5.682.711 men and 1.633.362 women.

          Why doesn’t it scare them ??? !!! request Maybe because they know that at the end of the work visa (4 years in my opinion, as it was said in the film about labor migrants in the UAE, which I watched a couple of years ago), the chances for the "migrant workers" to remain for permanent residence are zero (well, perhaps VERY VERY valuable employees) And for the slightest offense, an immediate kick to their homeland, and always.
          Therefore, they plow like horses there and live below the grass, quieter than water yes
          1. your1970
            your1970 30 October 2015 13: 00 New
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            by OUR legislation must not deport parents (non-citizens) from minor children who are citizens of the Russian Federation. So before the 18 anniversary of children, you can freely apply for citizenship
            1. demon1978
              demon1978 30 October 2015 14: 59 New
              +1
              Quote: your1970
              according to OUR legislation, it is impossible to deport parents (not citizens) from minor children who are citizens of the Russian Federation. So, before the 18th birthday of children, you can freely apply for citizenship


              Pretty easy to solve yes Medical examination once every half a year, ALL pregnant women, to the house, to the hut IMMEDIATELY, let them multiply in the place of permanent residence request

              We have the Chinese about 2 years ago we completed the construction of a cement plant (the saga of year 3 lasted).
              At first, all of them went in the morning, in uniform and in helmets, about a year and a half later they got used to it and began to sit in the bushes in the mornings with a beer (not all of course, someone apparently worked) But the plant was completed and the organization went home fellowAnd not surprisingly, the population growth with a characteristic cut of the eyes is somehow not noticeable request

              By the way, here he is
              1. your1970
                your1970 30 October 2015 19: 54 New
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                those. also a free medical examination for a state account to them?
          2. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 30 October 2015 22: 51 New
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            Quote: demon1978
            Why doesn’t it scare them ??? !!!

            But because these migrants are the same Arabs who speak Arabic. And their religious unrest is punishable by death. Therefore, migrants are not afraid. These are the same Arabs. And troublemakers do not go to them.
            In Russia, the number of Slavs is the majority. The Orthodox religion is a religion of humility of one’s passions. There are no terrorist Orthodox sects in Russia. Therefore, aggressive Muslim extremists pose a huge danger to the non-aggressive population of Russia.
    2. EFA
      EFA 30 October 2015 10: 39 New
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      But in India there is more territory suitable for living.
    3. Poppy
      Poppy 30 October 2015 11: 06 New
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      in India they live all over the country, and in China most of the country is sparsely populated, they are all crowded along the sea
  9. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 30 October 2015 09: 22 New
    +1
    The old ideal is 9 sons. Such a big family, for a long time this installation was in the countryside, an old tradition. Then, when they learned to do an ultrasound, if the girls have an abortion, and the boy’s life.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 October 2015 09: 26 New
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    And the train then they left, it seems. Breaking an established stereotype of public consciousness is extremely difficult.
    And developed medicine and lifestyle contribute to longevity.
  11. Barakuda
    Barakuda 30 October 2015 09: 30 New
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    The territory of the land on which the imperial palace in Japan stands is worth more than the entire territory of Japan. For instance. So let them "grow" upwards with their cheeks, or downwards, they wash the transition to Taiwan. winked
  12. snifer
    snifer 30 October 2015 09: 32 New
    -1
    In general, this is my and not only my opinion. China is more dangerous for us, not less, but even more, Western "partners". Nuclear weapons will not help and will hardly be used in the war between Russia and China. Our military in the Far East will simply be swept away by the Chinese army until it arrives in time reinforcements from across the Urals.
    1. demon1978
      demon1978 30 October 2015 10: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: snifer
      Nuclear weapons will not help and vryatli will be used in the war between Russia and China. Our military in the Far East will simply be swept away by the Chinese army while reinforcements arrive from behind the Urals.


      Come on..... what explain your strategy please request We’ll swing with shovels ??? !!! belay then really it’s bad ... request crying
      1. snifer
        snifer 30 October 2015 10: 59 New
        -2
        No, throwing hats.
        1. demon1978
          demon1978 30 October 2015 15: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: snifer
          No, throwing hats.


          So ??? !!! whator rubber (in order to preserve the environment)
          The Chinese people are ancient and not stupid in order to understand a military solution to this "issue" NO yes Now, if another Brokeback-EBN comes, then the situation is predictable
          1. snifer
            snifer 30 October 2015 20: 54 New
            -1
            and you don’t want to return to the European part of Russia ?? China is a nuclear power. and before you use nuclear weapons you need to think about the consequences. why didn’t chemical weapons be used in the Second World War? therefore, nuclear weapons will not be used in this conflict
    2. Poppy
      Poppy 30 October 2015 11: 10 New
      +3
      talk nonsense
      you stayed at the beginning of the 20th century when the troops carried by train

      Recently, the exercises were carried out unexpectedly, and for how much did they throw a bunch of troops across the country in the Far East? in a matter of hours
      and with tactical nuclear weapons we have everything in order and the skills of our pilots to bomb now demonstrate in Syria

      and most importantly: wars do not start just like that, all of a sudden, there is always the so-called threatening period

      and it makes no sense for China to fight with us, they lose everything at once without gaining anything
      1. snifer
        snifer 30 October 2015 11: 30 New
        -4
        Yeah, the transfer of the military to pre-prepared airfields by airplanes without counteracting enemy aviation and air defense, in conditions when these airfields are not fired by the enemy, of course it’s possible. how many 100 thousand? tactical nuclear weapons? will we hit our own land? By the way, you forget that China has RSD and we don’t, what is China losing? several tens of millions of people and several cities? So he has new cities built where no one lives, and a loss of even 50 million is acceptable for China. What is China gaining? Yes, a lot of things, a lot. And do not compare the war with the baboons in Syria with the war With the largest army in the world. So it’s you talking nonsense here and where you are stuck ask yourself.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 October 2015 14: 11 New
          +1
          And here it is necessary to add a scanty amount of heavy transport aircraft in our BTA.
        2. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 30 October 2015 23: 06 New
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          Quote: snifer
          What is China losing? several tens of millions of people and several cities? So he has new cities built where no one lives, and the loss of even 50 millions for China is acceptable.

          And now answer - why has China still not attacked Russia, especially in the 90 years of our complete collapse?
          And then you told us here about the troop transfers, about the Chinese losses and about the fact that we will throw tactical nuclear weapons all over the world. By the way, in tactical nuclear weapons you clearly do not understand anything. It is not possible to throw it all over the earth.
          Why hasn't China attacked us yet?
  13. bashkort
    bashkort 30 October 2015 09: 36 New
    +2
    The Chinese, in fact, have admitted de jure what they have de facto. They have penalties for their second child, but the villagers traditionally put a "bolt" on it, and so do many townspeople. China traditionally does not plan any military seizures of territories, but if we continue to do nothing in terms of population in the Far East, then in the near future it will also become de facto de jure: first, the Chinese majority will demand autonomy, and then the Anschluss with Celestial. Nothing personal, as they say, but nature abhors a vacuum.
  14. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 30 October 2015 09: 42 New
    +1
    And after this iron rule, another 7 billion Chinese living quietly will receive a passport ..
  15. akudr48
    akudr48 30 October 2015 10: 04 New
    +1
    The Chinese have taken another step towards prosperity.

    When they, in 20-30 years, reach the standard of living in the USA today, that is, for example, they will have 1 car per person and 50 sq.m. housing per capita, life on earth in its usual form today will end.
  16. Gardamir
    Gardamir 30 October 2015 10: 09 New
    -2
    Yes, at least let the third, over how much land you can rent.
    1. your1970
      your1970 30 October 2015 10: 40 New
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      Gobi Desert ???? belay fellow
      Take it, I think China won’t even refuse you (not like its own) ....
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 30 October 2015 11: 36 New
        -2
        Gobi Desert ???

        In fact, the Chinese have long and hard been exploring Siberian and Far Eastern lands. At the end of 2009, President Dmitry Medvedev and Chinese President Hu Jintao approved cooperation programs between the border regions of Russia and China for 2009-2018. After that, the practice of transferring empty land for lease to the Chinese became quite common in the region. For example, in the Jewish Autonomous Region and Khabarovsk Territory, Chinese villagers rent about 426,6 thousand hectares of land for the cultivation of soy, rice and vegetables. Local authorities so far do not see any problems in this. According to them, the Chinese are importing their equipment here, attracting their workers. But it is difficult to call it an invasion so far: for example, over all past years, 2,5 thousand Chinese were involved in cultivating these lands in the region. None of them have asked for Russian citizenship during this time.
  17. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 30 October 2015 10: 47 New
    +5
    Dear forum users, correct, if not right: in the case of a hypothetical nuclear war, it does not matter how many people live in this territory, the main thing is its size. In China, the bulk of the people live along the coast, and this mass occupies a relatively small territory. There is a program in google that shows the dependence of the affected area on the power of the charge. And what difference does it make, how many people are on, say 20 sq. Km live, 1 million or 10 million - it does not matter. I am not an analyst, but I can see that in the case of a hypothetical nuclear strike, China will simply cease to exist. There will be sparsely populated territories near Tibet or deserts, without industry. The same with amers. And we have a territory 2 times bigger, there are a lot of industry and military bases in sparsely populated Siberia and the Far East. In the case of such strikes (if only they weren’t!), We climb out, with heavy losses, but remain, but the Chinese or Americans have no chance, the scorched desert remains there. Such a perspective whom you want to reason. And I saw the description of such a scenario with such calculations 10-15 years ago, where - I apologize, I do not remember.
  18. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 30 October 2015 11: 00 New
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    Get ready planet !!! Exactly in a year the population will grow 2 times. belay
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 October 2015 14: 13 New
      -1
      Not twice, but 200 million.
  19. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 30 October 2015 11: 34 New
    0
    The cunning answer of the dragon to the crawls of mattresses in the South China Sea)))
    If, to celebrate, a billion Chinese people will simultaneously arrange a loud shake at the conception of a second child, then this can cause fluctuations in the earth's crust, the movement of tectonic plates and provoke the eruption of the Mount of Yellowstone. Well, then everything is as always - the tsunami, volcanic ash will be closed by the sun and will provoke a 3-year winter over the American continent.
    In vain they excited the Chinese with their ships.
  20. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 30 October 2015 12: 02 New
    +1
    In the case of a comparison of the birth rates of China and Africa, I would like to add that China educates its girls, women. Now many have higher education, in Russian universities there are also many Chinese students. Thus, the birth of the first child is delayed. At the same time, in In Africa, cases of children being born to girls under 1 years old have already become more frequent, i.e. at the age of 12 - already grandmothers. And such a "grandmother", having grandchildren and small children, and can still give birth to many children. And in 25 years she will become a great-grandmother, and her daughter will give birth to more children ...
    Such child-bearing.
  21. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 30 October 2015 12: 41 New
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    Quote: VseDoFeNi
    Quote: marlin1203
    Kids are great! But where to hide from the Chinese now? what

    While there will be no more. To save the population, there must be an 2,3 child on the network.

    We need to give birth. Few of us.

    Expel from parties if the family does not give birth to a second child
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 30 October 2015 14: 42 New
      0
      And the Komsomol laughing
  22. 123321
    123321 30 October 2015 15: 46 New
    +2
    The problem of overpopulation of the planet is far-fetched. The problem of alleged overpopulation is being spun by the "golden" billion. The population of the earth for 2011 is 7 billion. If one square meter is provided for each person, then the area occupied by the entire population will be equal to the area of ​​the Moscow region.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 30 October 2015 19: 13 New
      +1
      They hit the top ten .... The "Golden Billion" still spins a whole bunch of myths (including about democracy) ...