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Turkish opposition: Turkey could fight IS with Russia

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The policy of the Turkish authorities in relation to Syria needs to be revised, Turkey and the Russian Federation could become partners in the fight against the "Islamic state", reports RIA News Statement by the head of the country's opposition party, Kemal Kilicdaroglu.




“Turkey, which is already 63 of the year in NATO, is the dominant country in the region. We want this power to be used for peace and tranquility in the region. From this point of view, the strategy (the first president of Turkey, Kemal Atatürk) "peace in the country - peace in the whole world" is the main road map, which is directed to the interests of all countries in the region. We should consider our relations with the Russian Federation from the same point of view ... One of the foundations can be cooperation in fighting the IG, ”said the leader of the Republican People’s Party.

He criticized the policy of the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) against the SAR.

“The AKP leads a policy based on fantasy and utopia towards Syria. This policy has damaged our national interests and deepened the humanitarian catastrophe in Syria, with which Turkey has the longest border. We believe that this policy should be radically changed ",
said Kylychdaroglu.

He stressed that the US-Turkish training program for the Syrian opposition failed.

“We warned that trained fighters of moderate opposition could go to the side of the IG. That is exactly what happened. Most of those trained in Turkey, having barely crossed the border with Syria, surrendered to weapons IG and other terrorist organizations. Obviously, the Syrian crisis in this way cannot be resolved. And everyone already understands that it is necessary to change the strategy and take other steps, ”Kılıçdaroлуlu concluded.
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  1. vodolaz
    vodolaz 30 October 2015 08: 17 New
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    The current Turkish government is trying to solve their problems with the wrong hands and wants to sit backwards on a dozen chairs.
    1. vkl-47
      vkl-47 30 October 2015 08: 27 New
      +4
      A sensible Turk. This is a rarity. In his red book
      1. kodxnumx
        kodxnumx 30 October 2015 08: 34 New
        +2
        What are you really seeing!
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 30 October 2015 08: 46 New
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          Quote: kod3001
          What are you really seeing!

          Yeah ...., yes see clearly, with only one BUT - Turkey's main partner is Turkey. Do not forget about the main aspect, for Russia there is a significant danger posed by the traditional Turkish foreign policy stake on pan-Turkism and the Islamic component.
      2. Oman 47
        Oman 47 30 October 2015 08: 49 New
        +3
        Yeah, well ...
        Sane - until he was elected. belay
      3. volot-voin
        volot-voin 30 October 2015 08: 53 New
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        Quote: vkl-47
        A sensible Turk. This is a rarity. In his red book

        There are sane Turks and sane Europeans. Another thing is the geopolitical rivalry with Turkey, albeit faded but very ancient. Look at the map of the settlement of peoples. The range of distribution of Turanians is not so small, half of Russia, including several republics of the former USSR. If not for the valor and skillful management of the country and its resources of our ancestors, then there could well be Great Turan instead of Great Russia. It was not for nothing that there were so many wars between Russia and Turkey (Germany is resting). At one time it was a formidable rival and an important regional player.
        At the beginning of the XNUMXth century, Russia had a chance to finally put an end to Turan, but the revolution buried him along with many other aspirations of the Russian imreria.
      4. avt
        avt 30 October 2015 09: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: vkl-47
        A sensible Turk. This is a rarity. In his red book

        Turk or Kurd? what But however, if this is how he openly speaks out practically against Erdogan with statements about a 180-degree course reversal .... The bell is interesting, however - their opposition was strained there not sour. To set Turkey on fire as Syria, or Egypt, doesn’t mean such a problem and fantasy at the current time. As I am becoming more and more entrenched in this thought, which I have repeatedly expressed.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 30 October 2015 12: 41 New
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          Quote: avt
          Turk or Kurd?

          he has Armenian roots. The mother is an Armenian Janush. The truth is he denies this. But we know the Armenian female names. Especially the grandmother Siranush played by Galustyan))) And they have a lot of all kinds of Anush and Vartnaush))
      5. Imperialkolorad
        Imperialkolorad 30 October 2015 09: 59 New
        +3
        Quote: vkl-47
        A sensible Turk. This is a rarity. In his red book

        I do not agree. There are a lot of sensible politicians all over the world, but they have one thing in common, they are either already or not yet in power. As they break through to the feeder, all common sense completely disappears.
        1. Alexey Boukin
          Alexey Boukin 30 October 2015 10: 40 New
          +2
          Попадая во власть, все "здравомыслящие политики" попадают под указующий перст америки, отсюда и двойные стандарты их мышления до и после властвования.
      6. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 30 October 2015 11: 11 New
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        Quote: vkl-47
        A sensible Turk. This is a rarity. In his red book


        Вы, Уважаемый тёзка, Ницше на ночь не читайте, не бывает "умных или тупых" народов. А что касается политики Кемаля Ататюрка, то это действительно был умный и прогрессивный политик, стабилизация политической обстановки в Турции во многом произошла благодаря ему. К сожалению здравомыслящих политиков уровня Рузвельта, Ататюрка, Коля и им подобных, в современной западной элите не хватает.

        Something like that, I think, a colleague. hi
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 30 October 2015 11: 42 New
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          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          Unfortunately, sensible politicians at the level of Roosevelt, Ataturk, Kohl and the like, are not enough in the modern Western elite.

          Не хватает смелых и здравомыслящих,думающих об интересах своих стран,а не "перста указующего".Роль которого присвоили США.Не обязательно поддерживающих Россию,но ведущих трезвую,расчётливую политику основанную на добрососедстве и взаимовыгодном сотрудничестве.
    2. Dembel77
      Dembel77 30 October 2015 08: 36 New
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      Turkish opposition: Turkey could fight IS with Russia
      I agree. But as international practice shows, at all times and in any country, the most advanced part of politicians for some reason always unfortunately is the opposition to the government. Moreover, which is typical when the government or its members resign, they immediately begin to think correctly! Say wrong? It turns out like in a proverb about a vigorous cow and its missing horns that God did not give her!
    3. Wolka
      Wolka 30 October 2015 08: 49 New
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      it is so ...
    4. Maxom75
      Maxom75 30 October 2015 10: 09 New
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      It would be possible to sit if these chairs had four legs on each as it should be, the problem is that these two chairs have only two legs for two and these legs are the interests of the Sha and the Saudis. Unfortunately for Turks, the chairs are high, and the legs are not reliable, they break frequently, so it will be painful to fall from a height.
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 30 October 2015 08: 20 New
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    Now I looked yesterday Yesterday, however, with Leontyev. The main thesis is that the Americans will support the Kurds !!! In order not to interfere with the ground operation. In principle, it’s true, but how will Turks who regularly bombard Kurdish positions treat such a thing ?! Porridge is so heavy that it will be hard for everyone disentangle...
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 30 October 2015 08: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Magic Archer
      The main thesis is that Americans will support the Kurds !!!

      Ragnar, I don’t understand who the Kurds will be fighting with the support of the states?
      1. Magic archer
        Magic archer 30 October 2015 08: 32 New
        +1
        According to the American version with Isil! Turks are afraid that if the Americans begin to support the Kurds, then these weapons will subsequently be directed against them
        1. Alexei
          Alexei 30 October 2015 08: 45 New
          -1
          Quote: Magic Archer
          According to the American version with Isil!

          According to the American version, the Americans themselves are fighting with Isil, but we understand that they only pretend that they are fighting. This is how I understand the situation, so there are 3 forces in Syria: the army of Assad, Isil and the Kurds, if there is any armed opposition, it is so small that it’s too lazy to write about it. The Kurds have little choice, to fight with Isil for providing some kind of autonomy from Assad, or with Assad for supporting the states for their own state. But to fight with Assad, it means falling under Russian missiles, which is too much even for such thugs as the Kurds.
          1. Air Force captain
            Air Force captain 30 October 2015 09: 28 New
            +2
            I don’t believe that Kurds are scumbags .... they would be- they would join ISIS ... but would not defend their freedom .... So, what a friend ... I’m distorting mine wink hi
            1. Vladimir 1964
              Vladimir 1964 30 October 2015 11: 24 New
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              Quote: Air Force Captain
              I don’t believe that Kurds are scumbags .... they would be- they would join ISIS ... but would not defend their freedom .... So, what a friend ... I’m distorting mine


              Think competently and tactfully, Dear colleague. hi
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 30 October 2015 08: 37 New
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        Quote: Alexej

        Ragnar, I don’t understand who the Kurds will be fighting with the support of the states?

        Ordinary Kurds themselves do not understand this.
        1. dsi
          dsi 30 October 2015 09: 01 New
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          You shouldn’t talk about them like that. You would start to fight without understanding who, and for what? This is not an army (there is no order). These are the people, and He knows what he needs and who the enemy is! Something like that...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 30 October 2015 09: 08 New
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            Quote: dsi
            These are the people, and He knows what he needs and who the enemy is!

            The Russian people are smart people, but in the late 80s and early 90s their brains were so fucked up that they themselves did not understand who, where and why.
            1. dsi
              dsi 30 October 2015 11: 16 New
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              smart people

              You are lying, there are no smart people like stupid ones. There is a policy. which does not always reflect the aspirations of the people. If the bandits seized power in the village (a wedding in Robin), your statement does not work - the stupid population. Maybe you should reconsider your views?
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 30 October 2015 16: 56 New
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                Quote: dsi
                You are lying

                True wassat
                Quote: dsi
                Your statement does not work - stupid population

                But the fact that ?
                Ukraine to lay out?
      3. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 30 October 2015 11: 20 New
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        Quote: Alexej
        Ragnar, I don’t understand who the Kurds will be fighting with the support of the states?


        Dear Armagedonovich, the Kurds will definitely fight for the territories they control, but with whom, the question is interesting. At this stage, definitely with ISIS. And in the future, everything will depend on the political situation. yes
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 October 2015 08: 37 New
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      Quote: Magic Archer
      The main thesis is that Americans will support the Kurds!

      Who pays, he orders the music. Much is not necessary, just buy the tops of the Kurds and nothing more.
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Porridge fell such that it would be hard for everyone to disentangle ...

      Something I don’t see, that at least one country around Syria would try to do something for this. Iran is excluded.
      1. dsi
        dsi 30 October 2015 09: 06 New
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        Israel, he needs stable Syria, but the states are crushing. but I guess soon we will see another Israel.
      2. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 30 October 2015 11: 27 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Who pays, he orders the music. Much is not necessary, just buy the tops of the Kurds and nothing more.


        Sanya, for almost six decades now, only at the present time they are buying and how to buy does not work. belay
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 October 2015 16: 57 New
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          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          only at the present time they are buying and how to buy does not work.

          Merkel to help you
    3. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 30 October 2015 12: 02 New
      +3
      The Turks can look at it with approval ... If you look at this question from the other side ... Kurds will fight ISIS, destroying and weakening each other. And then the Turks will always have time to hit the Kurds in the back ... Here it looks like pushing their own enemies foreheads ...
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 30 October 2015 12: 05 New
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        Quote: Barkhan
        The Turks can look at it with approval ... If you look at this question from the other side ... Kurds will fight ISIS, destroying and weakening each other. And then the Turks will always have time to hit the Kurds in the back ... Here it looks like pushing their own enemies foreheads ...


        Dear colleague SERGEY, the idea is interesting. hi
  3. Alexei
    Alexei 30 October 2015 08: 21 New
    +5
    I’m often wondering, many countries have such sensible opposition, but we don’t understand some kind of mediocre one. Or is it because I'm on the other side?
    1. Awaz
      Awaz 30 October 2015 08: 43 New
      +1
      With absolute certainty we can say that if this dude takes the place of Erdogan, then Turkey’s policy towards Assad will not change. Adequate statements are made when there is no responsibility.
      For example, you can cite Greece. Whatever statements the Greek authorities make, but in the end they obeyed the European officials and again wallowed in gaining loans.
    2. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 30 October 2015 11: 35 New
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      Quote: Alexej
      I’m often wondering, many countries have such sensible opposition, but we don’t understand some kind of mediocre one. Or is it because I'm on the other side?


      Вы, Уважаемый Армагедонович, что понимаете под другой стороной? Оппозиция, она и в Африке оппозиция, всегда против, или не согласна, с реально действующим. Для современного этапа развития это несколько не актуально, в связи с чем оппозиционные процессы и развиваются по разному в тех или иных странах. Для нас характерна "цирковая" модель. Всем смешно и никакого толка. laughing

      Something like that, colleague. hi
  4. Barakuda
    Barakuda 30 October 2015 08: 25 New
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    Until Ankara settles the issue with the Kurds peacefully, there will be no sense. And what is stopping them? Well id. fool Let them take an example from Russia, there are many of them and there is enough space for everyone under the sun. (I'm not talking about the territory).
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 30 October 2015 08: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: Barracuda
      Until Ankara settles the issue with the Kurds peacefully, there will be no sense. And what is stopping them?

      Ankara has only one the vision of a showdown with the Kurds is an example of Ocalan.
  5. Hubun
    Hubun 30 October 2015 08: 25 New
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    could, but for some reason on the side of those who this same ISIS gave birth and is nurturing
  6. Kradi
    Kradi 30 October 2015 08: 27 New
    -1
    Еще один "прозрел"... а как к власти придет, развернется на 180 градусов и будет хаить Россию
  7. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 30 October 2015 08: 29 New
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    Ну , отлично . "...необходимо изменить стратегию и предпринять другие шаги..." . Ну , это ж турки , друзья наши исторические . Истеричные они какие-то . Образно выражаясь , кинутся с ятаганом , на приклад нарвутся - о ! давай договариваться . А в башку не приходило , что приклад иногда дуплетом стреляет ? И что мы ещё не в Константинополе - так это добрая воля и глупость Романовых .
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 October 2015 08: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: iliitch
      And what we are not yet in Constantinople is the good will and stupidity of the Romanovs.

      You know the story very poorly.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 30 October 2015 08: 41 New
        -3
        Yah ? Do not judge once again, but do not receive sacred minuses.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 October 2015 08: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: iliitch
          Yah ?

          Without well, that's just bad.
          Quote: iliitch
          Do not judge once again, but do not receive sacred minuses.

          Can you give me minuses of at least 1000, just what will this change in your understanding of historical events?
          1. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch 30 October 2015 09: 14 New
            +1
            Minus here only trolls, usually neutral or plus, but generally directly interested, write in a personal colleague, once the topic has appeared to communicate.
            1. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 30 October 2015 12: 09 New
              +4
              Why is it in PM? It also became interesting to me why we are not in Constantinople.
      2. Kindof
        Kindof 30 October 2015 09: 29 New
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        He didn’t mean you, Alexander, do not be offended
      3. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 30 October 2015 12: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        You know the story very poorly.


        Here in this, Sasha, I agree unequivocally. hi
  8. dsi
    dsi 30 October 2015 08: 33 New
    -1
    Most of the trained in Turkey, barely crossing the border with Syria, surrendered with weapons

    Soon there will be not IG, but the Syrian Army, for we do not destroy the kings, we refute the idea.
  9. roskot
    roskot 30 October 2015 08: 58 New
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    Could it could. But something always disturbs a bad dancer.
  10. BOB044
    BOB044 30 October 2015 09: 06 New
    -1
    Turks are cunning. They want to solve their political affairs at the expense of Russia. Russia will not solve the issue of the Kurds, the Kurds themselves and the Syrian authorities will solve their problems. hi
  11. individual
    individual 30 October 2015 09: 29 New
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    Элита Турции одержима воссозданием новой "Османской империи".
    The Kurds with their self-determination are standing in the way of these plans, and the first failure of their plans in Egypt (Muslim brothers) continues in Syria-Iraq.
    Erdogan needs to be made clear:
    1. This time has passed;
    2. "Не на того ставите"!
    1. dsi
      dsi 30 October 2015 11: 48 New
      +1
      Элита Турции одержима воссозданием новой "Османской империи".

      And this is true, because, I live in Krasnoyarsk, there was a Combine Plant calculated by the Soviet government for the production of seven thousand combines a year. But perestroika came, I saw how columns of rangefinders with Turkish numbers removed equipment from the enterprise. Press with a three-story house that could be produced only by industrial powers. Where is the Krasnoyarsk Combine Plant now? He is not ... And when I read now that the Turks took out fifteen hundred enterprises from the blazing fire of Syria, I admire Assad that he even pays pensions to the Syrians even in ISIS-controlled territories.
  12. slizhov
    slizhov 30 October 2015 09: 31 New
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    Я думаю, что если не свалят Эрдогана с его двойной позицией в угождению США и в чём-то России, он, в конечном итоге, поймёт, что весь Ближний Восток окажется по другую от него сторону и только потому, что кто-то устал подчиняться дяде Сэму, а кто-то просто устал друг друга истреблять лишь потому, что "гордость" не позволяет сесть за стол переговоров.
    And Putin has already shown that everyone can be seated at this table, and stop the destruction of the same Jews and Palestinians.
    The Middle East needs peace ... MIIIR !!!
  13. mamont5
    mamont5 30 October 2015 10: 12 New
    -1
    "Мы считаем, что эту политику необходимо кардинально изменить"

    Well, change. Who does not give?
  14. afrikanez
    afrikanez 30 October 2015 10: 21 New
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    Turkey could fight ISIS together with Russia
    But he doesn’t want to! For Turkey, a distant relative, closer than a good neighbor. sad
  15. MARGADON
    MARGADON 30 October 2015 10: 35 New
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    Quote: kod3001
    What are you really seeing!

    It’s just that the Syrians first of all want to regain control of the border, and stop the leakage of oil and the appearance of new recruits in the Islamic State. That’s what the Turkish opposition sang, like they are for world peace.
  16. Support
    Support 30 October 2015 10: 52 New
    0
    No one can be trusted. All under one comb. To the wall and ..... give a machine gun to help. Just got it. Stop babysitting. It's time to put an end to it.
  17. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 30 October 2015 12: 12 New
    +3
    Курды не раз объявляли,что единственная у них цель "Великий Курдистан".И ,как при этом туркам с ними мирно договариваться неизвестно.
  18. individual
    individual 30 October 2015 19: 23 New
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    Turkey is prophesying a federal structure with Kurdistan.
    Turkey goes through one of the most difficult stages in its recent history.
    But this will not happen under Erdogan.
    We will wait for the results of November 1 (re-election to the Turkish parliament).