Sikorsky has conducted the first flight test of the heavy helicopter King Stallion

His first flight was made on Tuesday by a heavy transport helicopter CH-53K King Stallion, reports Look with reference to the press service of the company Sikorsky.




“The first prototype of the machine, designated EDM-1, took part in the tests. The duration of the first flight of the helicopter was 30 minutes, ”the release says.

“During the first flight, the heavy transport helicopter performed a hangup, as well as flying sideways, back and forth. In addition, the stability of the machine when hovering at the height of 9,1 meter within the limits of the earth pillow effect, that is, the air currents reflected from the earth surface from the rotor, was checked, ”the press service told.

Flight tests will be continued, already 4 machines will participate in them. “The helicopter flight test program is scheduled for three years. A total of four helicopter prototypes must spend at least 2 thousands of hours in the air, ”the company said.

According to the developer, “the maximum take-off weight of the CH-53K helicopter will be 39,9 tons, the flight range is about 840 km, the speed is up to 315 km / h, it can carry up to 55 people, the crew is 5 people (2 pilot and one arrow from both boards and tail compartment) ".

Developed with the 2006 g, the machine is "a deeply modernized version of the modern CH-53E Super Stallion and equipped with three GE38-1B turboshaft engines."

The first helicopter will go to the US Marine Corps, which plans to acquire 200 machines of this type.

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  1. St Petrov 29 October 2015 16: 30 New
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    such a bucket of PPC

    If he flies the way he looks ...

    1. vodolaz 29 October 2015 16: 41 New
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      Everything is perishable, this is what the crown of helicopter building looks like: http://militarizm.livejournal.com/90428.html
      1. Kapralwdw 29 October 2015 16: 53 New
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        this is really a killing machine !!! laughing pilots !!!
        1. starec.luka 29 October 2015 17: 44 New
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          looking at this bucket at the ka-52 there was an attack of laughter ...
          1. Vadivak 29 October 2015 21: 29 New
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            Quote: starec.luka
            looking at this bucket at the ka-52 there was an attack of laughter ...


            Yes normal view, Sikorsky immediately recognizable
            1. shuhartred 29 October 2015 21: 47 New
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              Quote: Vadivak
              looking at this bucket at the ka-52 there was an attack of laughter ...

              Yes normal view, Sikorsky immediately recognizable

              Meant Kaklovsky Mi-2. Miles the poor fellow in a coffin turned over, they will continue to mock, crawl out and knock on the head.
              1. Skifotavr 29 October 2015 23: 47 New
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                Quote: shuhartred
                Quote: Vadivak
                looking at this bucket at the ka-52 there was an attack of laughter ...

                Yes normal view, Sikorsky immediately recognizable

                Meant Kaklovsky Mi-2. Miles the poor fellow in a coffin turned over, they will continue to mock, crawl out and knock on the head.

                Poles are still continuing to create new helicopters based on the Mi-2: http://www.dogswar.ru/voennaia-aviaciia/vertolety/1620-mnogocelevoi-vertole.html
                laughing What is worse about servility?
                1. crazyrom 30 October 2015 03: 11 New
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                  Cool as the latest development of the Americans - and still the payload is only half of our Mi-26 from the last century.
                  1. Falcon 30 October 2015 08: 27 New
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                    Quote: crazyrom
                    Cool as the latest development of the Americans - and still the payload is only half of our Mi-26 from the last century.


                    And who planned to create such a helicopter?

                    CH-53 completely adapted to other tasks. The machine more than once evacuated the Marines from the hell itself - as it has a partial reservation and a large g / p. A peculiar flying armored personnel carrier

                    In general, a unique class of helicopters, which we do not have. With it you need to compare our Ka-29
          2. BULLIT 29 October 2015 21: 57 New
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            do you know that these compatriots are being designed by our compatriot ?? Emigrant Sikorsky! bully
            1. Bochik 29 October 2015 22: 30 New
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              Quote: BULLIT
              do you know that these compatriots are being designed by our compatriot ?? Emigrant Sikorsky! bully

              Do you know that he died in 1972?
      2. Zoldat_A 29 October 2015 16: 59 New
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        Quote: vodolaz
        Everything is perishable, this is what the crown of helicopter building looks like: http://militarizm.livejournal.com/90428.html

        Breathtaking from steepness! laughing This mount was especially impressive!
        1. Kapralwdw 29 October 2015 17: 21 New
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          yes what do you understand in fixtures laughing
        2. torp 29 October 2015 18: 15 New
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          Do you want nails to be nailed? wassat
          1. Zoldat_A 29 October 2015 20: 44 New
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            Quote: torp
            yes what do you understand in fixtures

            Quote: torp
            Do you want nails to be nailed?

            Well, I don’t know for sure ... Maybe with some glue to stick ... laughing It is felt that this device has been pinned down thoughtfully and for centuries ... laughing I wonder what is it? Sounds like some kind of flashing fake? Or is it the latest Ukrainian radar? Do not lose, with such mount. laughing
            1. Just BB 30 October 2015 06: 35 New
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              It is not the upper "pan" that is attached, but the lower cartridge with IR-trap cartridges (they often show how "signal" rockets fly off from the tail of the aircraft in different directions, or even in parades - beautiful!)

              Flashing light is an ancient rocket scarecrow
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir 29 October 2015 19: 47 New
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          and what’s this, a variant of the engine on coal?
          1. Just BB 30 October 2015 06: 39 New
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            AI-450
            Initially, the AI-450 aircraft engine was created for installation on a light Ka-226 helicopter. Three engines were made, their bench tests were carried out. However, Kamov OJSC decided to install other foreign-made engines on the Ka-226. By this time, the AI-450 developer had relations with the Russian Rostvertol OJSC on the Mi-2M helicopter with the AI-450. It is planned that on the Mi-2 helicopters, instead of the outdated GTD-350, modern AI-450s will be installed. Now the work is being carried out without state support, the Mi-2M flight tests are expected to begin soon.
          2. Bochik 31 October 2015 00: 38 New
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            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            and what’s this, a variant of the engine on coal?

            thermal trap cassette
        4. Just BB 30 October 2015 06: 27 New
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          Native, factory mount ASOShki, no need - quickly removed
        5. drunkram 30 October 2015 09: 19 New
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          This, ahem, I apologize for clamps or something bl ***?
      3. Bochik 29 October 2015 22: 27 New
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        Quote: vodolaz
        http://militarizm.livejournal.com/90428.html

        The link is broken.
      4. Observer2014 29 October 2015 22: 41 New
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        WHEN SOMEONE SAID THAT! That the helicopter is purely Russian machine. Lord, I saw with my own eyes an American heavy transport helicopter in the sky. SH-53 or one of its modifications. It seemed like he was about to stop and crash to the ground. A "mohawk" it rattles that our MI 8 is invisible but already audible, but speed, dear mother, it barely flies, load-bearing capacity and security are three or four times less than eight. And in action movies, oh, oh, just "fortress" ha ha!
        In Vietnam, how many "Iroquois" eared ?!
      5. Sergey Guriev 30 October 2015 03: 40 New
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        It’s scary to imagine what incredibly powerful weapons designers can hang with an independent one, if they have more tape and nails! I shudder.
        1. Just BB 30 October 2015 06: 51 New
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          The fact that a million and a half "freaks" to jump on the Maidan does not in any way mean that among the remaining 40 million there are no sensible, handy people.
          And the machines in Ukraine were not "demidovskie" at all.

          One (wanted to write "pleases"but how to rejoice in the grief of others, when it’s not all right at home): - top managers theirs
    2. Starover_Z 29 October 2015 16: 50 New
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      Quote: c-Petrov
      If he flies the way he looks ...

      I agree, our helicopters are more beautiful and harmonious! good
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      avt 29 October 2015 16: 51 New
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      Quote: c-Petrov
      such a bucket of PPC

      This is a fairly reliable, "bucket" that has long served itself quite well in many areas as a minesweeper and special forces transport.
      Quote: Kolka82
      A kind of heavy horse

      Namely, that a normal heavy truck is a hard worker. But somehow I like it more than a banana from Boeing-Pyasetskiy.
      Quote: fiction
      We have 30 years such a machine flies if I'm not mistaken.
      Since 1984, it seems MI-26 is called.

      no Different weight categories, ours will be heavier.
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    5. Prapor-527 29 October 2015 17: 25 New
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      Sikorsky conducted the first flight test of a heavy helicopter I always thought that a heavy helicopter looks something like this ...
      1. Aljavad 29 October 2015 20: 18 New
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        I always thought that a heavy helicopter looks something like this ..


        So they and the Mi-8 is heavy. And "26" - superhavy belay
      2. Mera joota 29 October 2015 20: 34 New
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        Quote: Prapor-527
        Sikorsky conducted the first flight test of a heavy helicopter I always thought that a heavy helicopter looks something like this ...

        And what UDC can Mi26 be based on?
      3. Skifotavr 30 October 2015 00: 03 New
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        Quote: Prapor-527
        Sikorsky conducted the first flight test of a heavy helicopter I always thought that a heavy helicopter looks something like this ...
        Or so smile (Mi-12):
        1. Izotovp 30 October 2015 00: 13 New
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          The fact of the matter is that we will build 2 pieces like the Mi-12 and go terribly proud, and the Americans produce them in such quantities as we do cars and treat both transport and not the pride of the nation. ((((
          Until our factories begin to sculpt planes and helicopters at least at the Soviet pace, we will quietly envy them and our regions will be torn off from the mainland.
          1. Skifotavr 30 October 2015 01: 36 New
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            Quote: Izotovp
            The fact of the matter is that we will build 2 pieces like the Mi-12 and go terribly proud, and the Americans produce them in such quantities as we do cars and treat both transport and not the pride of the nation.

            I did not know that the Americans are releasing the Mi-12, and even in such a quantity laughing . But seriously, Russia has a Mi-26, which they managed to do a lot under the USSR, and now they are continuing, gradually modernizing. In the near future, a more powerful and modern domestic engine will appear instead of the Ukrainian one. So the fucking patriot of you. And about the Mi-12: in the first they were built not 2 pieces, just 2 survived, and secondly - most of them did not even hear about them, not that "walking because of them is terribly proud" wink
            1. Izotovp 30 October 2015 09: 26 New
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              Sorry, I wrote a little incorrectly. Of course, the Americans did not build Mi12, they do not need it, they have enough of their own.
              New engines are already, thank God, both make and develop.
              Mi-26 at one time almost shut down. The public reared up and it turned out that a good helicopter should be developed.
              Patriotism differs from thoughtless ury with sobriety of assessment.
              And what does not suit you to whom do you answer?
          2. Skifotavr 30 October 2015 02: 53 New
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            How is it that I didn’t immediately answer who I was answering! Sometimes reading all the comments of writers can be very useful. Hello to the kosher moles. laughing
    6. Tor5
      Tor5 29 October 2015 17: 39 New
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      Yeah, he has a vidok, like a garbage can.
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    8. Alexey RA 29 October 2015 17: 50 New
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      Quote: c-Petrov
      such a bucket of PPC

      Duc ... if you make a heavy helicopter, guided only by aerodynamics - you get Mi-26.

      And if deck assignment with all its charms such as the dimensions of elevators and hangars is prescribed from the very beginning in the technical specifications for a new heavy marine helicopter (future SN-53), then you have to be distorted like this.
    9. Aljavad 29 October 2015 20: 16 New
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      If he flies the way he looks ...


      Flies for a very long time (In 1965, the SN-53A was adopted by the United States) and for the most part - successfully.

      But the Yankees are far from the grace of our cars wink
    10. Sober 29 October 2015 21: 48 New
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      Somehow it looks strange, some kind of intense.
    11. Juborg 29 October 2015 22: 22 New
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      This kid has a carrying capacity of about 55 tons, our Mi-26 has 56 tons.
      1. SSeT 29 October 2015 23: 23 New
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        With a maximum take-off of 40 tons, a payload of 55 ?? Well, well, a visionary, materiel to learn urgently!
        1. Juborg 30 October 2015 01: 21 New
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          I laughed a little, 5.5 tons.
  2. Mama_Cholli 29 October 2015 16: 32 New
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    Could not a tail unit (in general, the entire apparatus) normalize something with a file?

    A zinc product for a load of 200 looks prettier ...
    1. Zoldat_A 29 October 2015 17: 13 New
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      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      Could not a tail unit (in general, the entire apparatus) normalize something with a file?

      The feeling is that his designers chopped with an ax from a single piece of plasticine. They did not hear how Tupolev said that only a beautiful car can fly well. Compare with ours - they didn’t sit on one hectare for sure. Mi-26 - handsome.
      1. Hyppopotut 29 October 2015 20: 28 New
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        Words about a beautiful airplane belong to A. Yakovlev, see "Purpose of Life".
        1. Zoldat_A 29 October 2015 20: 47 New
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          Quote: Hyppopotut
          Words about a beautiful airplane belong to A. Yakovlev, see "Purpose of Life".

          Guilty, wrong, I admit. repeat But the words are all one correct to eerie. I would write them in all textbooks for designers with an epigraph.
  3. Kolka82 29 October 2015 16: 32 New
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    A kind of heavy horse
    1. figwam 29 October 2015 16: 39 New
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      A kind of heavy horse

      According to the developer, “the maximum take-off mass of the CH-53K helicopter will be 39,9 tons,

      The MI-26 has a maximum takeoff weight of 56 tons.
      1. Maxom75 29 October 2015 16: 46 New
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        Do not confuse MI-26 and this is a "unique miracle" of US helicopter construction. Our helicopter for landing and cargo delivery, they have for these purposes tiltrotors. The question is of course what will happen to the tiltrotor if one screw dies, but this is a completely different story.))
        1. Aljavad 29 October 2015 20: 22 New
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          Our helicopter for landing and cargo delivery, they have for these purposes tiltrotors.


          However, their tiltrotor will not raise so much.

          And not one of them will lift so much!
      2. Starover_Z 29 October 2015 16: 57 New
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        Quote: figvam
        The MI-26 has a maximum takeoff weight of 56 tons.

        "Chinook" (Eng. Boeing CH-47 Chinook) - American heavy military transport helicopter longitudinal scheme.
        Maximum takeoff weight: 24494 kg
        Payload Mass: 12284 kg
        laughing
        1. jjj
          jjj 29 October 2015 17: 01 New
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          Well, the Mi-26 was supposed to be used for delivering missiles in difficult terrain. He and the rear beam has a characteristic "cut" for this. And it turned out to be a useful machine in the national economy, replacing the "Mi-6" and "Mi-10"
        2. voyaka uh 29 October 2015 17: 38 New
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          And here is the CH-53E Super Stallion
          also chinook normally drags
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          2. Manul 29 October 2015 19: 05 New
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            Quote: voyaka uh
            And here is the CH-53E Super Stallion
            also chinook normally drags

            Thank you. An interesting shot. And then to the patriots (I consider myself to be such, but I don’t understand what they mean) and there’s no need to discuss anything, let’s mock only. Zero specifics.
          3. shuhartred 29 October 2015 21: 52 New
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            Quote: voyaka uh
            And here is the CH-53E Super Stallion
            also chinook normally drags

            And as in the photo above, raise the Tu-134? Weak?
            1. Manul 29 October 2015 22: 16 New
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              Quote: shuhartred
              And as in the photo above, raise the Tu-134? Weak?

              It was originally about the topic of the article. Someone began to cite the Mi-26 as an example. Voyaka_Uh answered quite a specific post and very much on the matter. Your mind-blowing observation goes into a third or fourth grade. I really hoped to find out information about such American technology from interested people, and as a result the branch was turned into trash. I am very grateful to you.
              PS Admins! Is it possible, for overly politicized and all kinds of phobes and philes, to create, according to technical articles, a separate branch from the coolest mud-waterers? I even promise to come to them and give in to the park, so that it would not be boring. Well, let it all be ugly there, but in another branch it will be possible to at least discuss the characteristics.
              PPSO! And you can separate the section of Armament from everyone else. Separate access and a separate ban !!!
      3. VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 17: 47 New
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        Quote: figvam
        The MI-26 has a maximum takeoff weight of 56 tons.

        ONE screw !!!
        1. VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 19: 52 New
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          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          Quote: figvam
          The MI-26 has a maximum takeoff weight of 56 tons.

          ONE screw !!!

          Morons, on one screw 56 tons, it's cool !!! laughing
          I goof over the minusers. fool Well, stupid. laughing
    2. With Siberian Cranes 29 October 2015 19: 32 New
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      it's not about mi 26
      1. Manul 29 October 2015 23: 14 New
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        Quote: With Cranes
        it's not about mi 26

        Plusaul for comment. I wanted to add to the rating - I looked at your other comments. Oh .. crying I’d better not look. Catch.
  4. venaya 29 October 2015 16: 32 New
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    the maximum take-off mass of the CH-53K helicopter will be 39,9 tons, flight range - about 840 km, speed - up to 315 km / h, can carry up to 55 people

    For our purposes, this is not yet relevant to us. Let's see what they get.
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    2. a.hamster55 29 October 2015 17: 02 New
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      But the flight range is impressive! Our very voracious.
      1. venaya 29 October 2015 18: 37 New
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        Quote: a.hamster55
        But the flight range is impressive! Our very voracious.

        You know, this topic is so relevant for our vast country, especially given today's realities associated with the development of the Arctic, I don’t even know where to start. Here on the site I was already trying to show interest in convertiplanes, we had some extreme ones, but Khrushchov got all the same. There, in theory, it turns out that the economy and theoretical range of its flight is higher than any aircraft. This fact is stubbornly hushed up by someone, but here, on the site, there are simply not enough specialists. So the relevance of your post regarding profitability is colossal, but no one shows interest in this issue. Sorry.
        1. Rader 29 October 2015 21: 10 New
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          Quote: venaya
          Quote: a.hamster55
          But the flight range is impressive! Our very voracious.

          You know, this topic is so relevant for our vast country, especially given today's realities associated with the development of the Arctic, I don’t even know where to start. Here on the site I was already trying to show interest in convertiplanes, we had some extreme ones, but Khrushchov got all the same. There, in theory, it turns out that the economy and theoretical range of its flight is higher than any aircraft. This fact is stubbornly hushed up by someone, but here, on the site, there are simply not enough specialists. So the relevance of your post regarding profitability is colossal, but no one shows interest in this issue. Sorry.

          Well Duc themselves said that "there are no sufficient specialists" - and there is no one to show interest! wink Profitability is good, Russia is a big, very big country, and many airfields built under the USSR have not survived to our time. So that a tiltrotor would really be very useful for communication with remote areas. But about the fact that a tiltrotor is more economical than any airplane ... belay Well, I have doubts about this ... If you, Vyacheslav, have information / theoretical calculations / interesting ideas, then you can arrange all this in the form of an article and debug it here on the VO. I would gladly read such an article hi
      2. TSOOBER 29 October 2015 20: 47 New
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        And the booth is nothing like that
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          Quote: TSOOBER
          And the booth is nothing like that

          Mi-38 Cab
  5. Denis Skiff 29 October 2015 16: 33 New
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    heavy helicopter test
    small and so heavy. well, very heavy.
  6. science fiction writer 29 October 2015 16: 33 New
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    We have 30 years such a machine flies if I'm not mistaken.
    Since 1984, it seems MI-26 is called. laughing
    1. TSOOBER 29 October 2015 16: 36 New
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      what if not a secret, and if you can model with refueling!
    2. Alexey RA 29 October 2015 17: 46 New
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      Quote: fiction
      We have 30 years such a machine flies if I'm not mistaken.
      Since 1984, it seems MI-26 is called.

      In fact, the original CH-53 Sea Stallion has been flying since 1964.
      1. science fiction writer 29 October 2015 18: 36 New
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        In fact, the original CH-53 Sea Stallion has been flying since 1964.

        If CHOOOOOO the original MI-6 has been flying since 1957.
        MI-6
        The load in the cabin, kg - 12 000
        Suspension load, kg - 8000


        CH-53 Sea Stallion
        Payload: normal: 3 629 kg
        Maximum: 5 780 kg

        hi
        1. TSOOBER 29 October 2015 20: 42 New
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          MI-6 with refueling and possibly based on ships? Thanks for the enlightenment did not know!
          1. Izotovp 29 October 2015 20: 53 New
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            I also do not understand such a lot of cheers! Our turntable for marines is simply not comparable in terms of performance characteristics with this device and nothing similar can be seen in the plans: neither turntables nor carriers (((.
          2. shuhartred 29 October 2015 21: 58 New
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            Quote: TSOOBER
            MI-6 with refueling and possibly based on ships?

            I didn’t know that we had a ship capable of receiving Mi-6. Can you name it? Once the appropriate trough is in place, upgrading the turntable will not take so long.
            1. Alexey RA 30 October 2015 10: 08 New
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              Quote: shuhartred
              Once the appropriate trough is in place, upgrading the turntable will not take so long.

              Yeah ... just spit. Just something - a new screw, a new layout of the engines / gearbox, a new tail boom, a new chassis, a new cab. laughing

              Because for basing the original Mi-6 / Mi-26 in the hangar, you need a minimum of "Kitty Hawk". And that is not a fact ...
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                Quote: Alexey RA
                Yeah ... just spit. Just something - a new screw, a new layout of the engines / gearbox, a new tail boom, a new chassis, a new cab.

                In short, an airplane was attached to the license plate. Just what for so much new?
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            MI-6 with refueling and possibly based on ships? Thanks for the enlightenment did not know!

            Heh heh heh ...
  7. 1536 29 October 2015 16: 33 New
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    Looking at the American equipment of such a futuristic look, the thought involuntarily comes up that we had to do this to participate in parades and festivities. It may, of course, be possible to fight on it, too, but it will be painfully pathetic to watch the Arrow, the Needle, or the Willow stitch this expensive object on both sides.
    1. a.hamster55 29 October 2015 17: 48 New
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      I do not understand about the "flashing in both sides" they are not exploding already laughing
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    INF 29 October 2015 16: 34 New
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    The main thing is to shout that someone is already ready to buy it, and the clearance is too small ...
    1. a.hamster55 29 October 2015 17: 43 New
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      On our roads will not go far fellow
      1. a.hamster55 29 October 2015 17: 51 New
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        We have pits in the air, but maybe the Airborne’s dug trenches
    2. Alexey RA 29 October 2015 17: 53 New
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      and the clearance is too small ...

      And the hatches are thin ...
  9. Denis DV 29 October 2015 16: 34 New
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    55 people with equipment? I doubt something what
  10. Vladimirets 29 October 2015 16: 35 New
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    2 pilots and one arrow each on both sides and in the tail section

    Tell me why the arrow for such a helicopter? what
    1. Alexey RA 29 October 2015 17: 58 New
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      Quote: Vladimirets
      Tell me why the arrow for such a helicopter?

      These are marines - he was completely frostbitten. They use the heavy transporter of our Mi-26 class when landing the first echelon of landing and as a PSS helicopter (because of range).
      1. Vladimirets 29 October 2015 18: 11 New
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        Quote: Alexey RA
        Mi-26 class transporter is used when landing the first echelon of landing

        A great target even for DShK.
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          A great target even for DShK.

          That is why it is necessary to introduce shooters into the crew who work with machine guns mounted on the ramp and on the sides - M2HB or generally “miniguns”:

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        frostbite on his head. They use the heavy transport class of our Mi-26 when landing the first echelon of landing


        For example, in Iran, when they tried to save the hostages! bully
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      If it’s not difficult then read what and how Our IAS was put in the DRA and what barrels and ammunition were exchanged for. In addition, it is a loading and unloading team. And here everything is already provided.
  11. Mountain shooter 29 October 2015 16: 35 New
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    Male! The refueling bar is brutal. Did the developers hear anything about aerodynamics?
    1. Alexey RA 29 October 2015 18: 37 New
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      With a powerful engine, even an ax will fly. smile
    2. Aljavad 29 October 2015 20: 31 New
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      Did the developers hear anything about aerodynamics?


      Are you talking about Sikorsky? Actually, at the source laughing

      Just the sense of beauty in him its.
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        Male! The refueling bar is brutal. Did the developers hear anything about aerodynamics?


        Quote: Alexey RA
        With a powerful engine, even an ax will fly. smile

        "Aerodynamics were invented by those who did not have a normal engine" (c) wassat laughing
    3. Alexey RA 30 October 2015 10: 11 New
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      Male! The refueling bar is brutal.

      This is not a barbell. This is a bayonet! smile
  12. mosquit 29 October 2015 16: 38 New
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    In vain irony ...
    Heavy, refueling in the air ...
  13. grigoriy 29 October 2015 16: 38 New
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    I wouldn’t like to jerk it off but it seems to me that it is ugly .... and a curve!
  14. lunoxod 29 October 2015 16: 41 New
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    They would buy vertics from us from Russians and they would be happy.
    1. Alexey RA 29 October 2015 18: 38 New
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      They would buy vertics from us from Russians and they would be happy.

      Please name the domestic heavy deck helicopter with a refueling system in the air. wink
      1. Manul 29 October 2015 19: 10 New
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        Please name the domestic heavy deck helicopter with a refueling system in the air.

        Exactly! When the Mistral were discussed, I was upset that we did not have a carrier-based landing helicopter. The Mi-8 will probably be small, the Mi-26 is bulky for the ship. So probably a good concept, we would have to develop similar in size and capabilities.
        1. Rader 29 October 2015 21: 21 New
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          Quote: Manul
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Please name the domestic heavy deck helicopter with a refueling system in the air.

          Exactly! When the Mistral were discussed, I was upset that we did not have a carrier-based landing helicopter. The Mi-8 will probably be small, the Mi-26 is bulky for the ship. So probably a good concept, we would have to develop similar in size and capabilities.

          There is no such helicopter, and it will not appear soon ... Because without UDC it will not be possible to use it “for its intended purpose” anyway, and when this same UDC appears, it is not clear ...
          1. Manul 29 October 2015 22: 58 New
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            . Because without UDC it’s still impossible to use it “for its intended purpose”, and when this same UDC appears, it’s not clear ...

            Really? Amphibious helicopter without UDC is not needed anywhere? Here is a one hundred percent transporter imprisoned for transferring units to the front line and with maximum protection from weapons - NOT NEEDED? Let me disagree. In addition to MI-24, which can really stand up for itself, but it is more of an attack aircraft. Mi-8 and all further incarnations are essentially trucks. Something specifically ground for the transfer of personnel is necessary. It seems that the Americans have it.
            My suggestions? Create a modular helicopter of the Ka-226 type with a landing capsule. In case of danger that can be reset on a parachute system.
            1. Rader 29 October 2015 23: 38 New
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              Hmmm ... Well, I had in mind the decked version, and not the landing helicopter as such. As for the machine embodying the idea of ​​a "flying infantry fighting vehicle", such a machine has not yet been created, and Sikorsky just does not pull under this concept. The creators of the Mi 24 came closest, but this machine is still more of a drummer, and I agree with you on this 8th grade. But if you try to revive the idea of ​​a “flying infantry fighting vehicle” (and in my opinion, at the present stage of development with modern engines and a complex of weapons, it’s quite possible to realize) and create a machine that completely doubles it, then the resulting helicopter will look like an American very remotely generally will be like ...
              Regarding your idea of ​​a modular helicopter: interesting of course, but in the near future they will realize it. hi
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                Fiction, of course, but it looks gorgeous smile
              2. Manul 30 October 2015 00: 40 New
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                Quote: Rader

                Rader Yesterday, 23:38 PM ↑
                Hmmm ... Well, I had in mind the decked version, and not the landing helicopter as such

                I agree, I mixed the concept. Firstly, I defended the very idea of ​​a purely landing helicopter, and went far from the deck option. But for a long time everything was good for Americans with helicopters sharpened for transferring l / s. And we always tried to combine everything - a truck, an attack aircraft, and an armored personnel carrier. But as a result, either the attack or the supply all the same won. But there was no special care for the soldiers. So my main idea is first of all that the means of delivery and evacuation of personnel in the combat zone need a new incarnation. The Americans are trying, and we would not laugh, but to think - what do we have in return? And to create a version of both land and deck. I am sure that their new concept will do well on both fronts.
                1. Rader 30 October 2015 01: 18 New
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                  So my main idea is first of all that the means of delivery and evacuation of personnel in the combat zone need a new incarnation.

                  Undoubtedly, it is necessary to revise the whole concept of conducting military operations, and then to form the appearance of equipment that is able to most effectively operate according to the chosen model. With ground equipment it began to be cut out. This is the concept of heavy (with T-14 and T-15), medium (Kurgan) and light (Bumirangi) brigades. With helicopters, such conceptual changes are not observed ... Yes, and it seems to me that we won’t get a clean “air armored personnel carrier”, the temptation is too great to provide a “couple” of mounts for kochet with NURSs. Well, if "provided", then you must definitely use it! And there's nothing to be done about it ...
      2. Just BB 30 October 2015 07: 09 New
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        Why do you need it?
        "Mistral", thank God, we do not.
        And why the "bittersweet" helicopter refueling in the air?
        We have a huge land area - take a seat - refuel! At your service Mi-26TZ, in decent conditions (airfield) - IL-78
        1. Alexey RA 30 October 2015 10: 13 New
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          Why do you need it?

          So topikstarter offered the United States to buy helicopters from us. So I'm interested in - what kind of helicopters do we have for the American concept? wink
  15. Altona 29 October 2015 16: 42 New
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    To kill two birds with one stone ... And the helicopter is a freak, to be honest, maybe inside it is a super-duper, but visually che.em.oshny ...
  16. lunoxod 29 October 2015 16: 43 New
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    And he has refueling from the same awkward car. At least hit the RPG.
  17. Abbra 29 October 2015 16: 50 New
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    In a word, pepelats. I can’t understand for what unique tasks this bull is fed?
    1. Abbra 29 October 2015 22: 04 New
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      It seems to me that according to Military Review, the designer of this helicopter roams and puts cons to everyone ...
  18. YGV-97219 29 October 2015 17: 01 New
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    Hippopotamus with a propeller! laughing
  19. roskot 29 October 2015 17: 01 New
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    The company made a cake, the company wants to sell it and have some money.
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      Even to develop his time, he looks wretched.

      wassat
      Quote: roskot
      The company made a cake, the company wants to sell it and have some money.

      The company “made a cake” in 1964, and since then the machine has completely proved to itself the right to life and is constantly kept in service and is being modernized from time to time.
  20. propolsky 29 October 2015 17: 03 New
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    Even to develop his time, he looks wretched. The equipment will certainly be what you need, but it does not look.
    1. Just BB 30 October 2015 07: 22 New
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      A helicopter is not a "model" - it should not to look like, and perform the inherent functions.

      Here is the use of three engines in a helicopter - a very interesting design solution
  21. Zheka40 29 October 2015 17: 07 New
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    Some misery.
  22. tlauicol 29 October 2015 17: 13 New
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    Laughed and that's enough. But seriously, the armament of the marine corps, we do not have a single heavy helicopter. Not a single heavy helicopter in the fleet at all. And not a single helicopter with a refueling system in the Air Force
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      Quote: Tlauicol
      Laughed and that's enough.

      They can't stop. Chain reaction. A general mockery to all for joy.
    2. Aljavad 29 October 2015 20: 34 New
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      tlauikol Today, 17:13 New
      Laughed and that's enough. But seriously, the armament of the marine corps, we do not have a single heavy helicopter. Not a single heavy helicopter in the fleet at all. And not a single helicopter with a refueling system in the Air Force


      ... and refueling - on the contrary!
    3. Just BB 30 October 2015 07: 28 New
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      Once again I will say: in Russia there is no need to use helicopter refueling in the air.

      Refueling helicopters were and are Mi-6TZ and Mi-26TZ, refueling is carried out by any equipment, but on the ground - it is big with us!
      1. Alexey RA 30 October 2015 10: 22 New
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        Quote: Just VV
        Once again I will say: in Russia there is no need to use helicopter refueling in the air.

        Not yet. Although for the same MSS, a long-range heavy universal machine would not hurt to pull out pilots working outside the radius of the Mi-8 / Mi-24.
        Refueling on the ground in the territory of the enemy ... this is some kind of operation "Eagle Claw-2" is obtained. smile
        1. Just BB 1 November 2015 07: 04 New
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          Why are you so far away?
          Mi-8 (I won’t be all letters) - it easily hangs in the air for 4,5 hours, and it’s 450 km to each side - beyond this distance - these are operations of a different scale - the “Eagle Claw” - in this case, an easy adventure.
  23. starec.luka 29 October 2015 17: 19 New
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    As the foreman said, beautifully means it’s done right .. and here it’s not beautiful ... and so d ... mo ...
    1. Bryanskiy_Volk 29 October 2015 17: 25 New
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      I recall the words of A.N. Tupolev about the KSSh rocket: “Yes. . But it will fly! ”
      laughing
  24. Bort radist 29 October 2015 17: 21 New
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    It looks papelats certainly peculiar. But you don’t have to joke much. This is a branch of our Russian aeronautics school. "Igor Ivanovich Sikorsky is the creator of the world's first four-engine aircraft Grand and Russian Knight, the heavy bomber Ilya Muromets, the world's first transatlantic seaplane and the first production helicopters." 1912-1914 "Grand" became the ancestor of all multi-engine aircraft in the world. Soon this aircraft received a new name - “Russian Knight”. On it, Igor Ivanovich on August 2, 1913 set a world record for flight duration (1 h 54 min) with 8 passengers on board. For the invention of the world's first multi-engine aircraft, the State Duma awarded Sikorsky a cash prize of 75 thousand rubles.
    The plane "Ilya Muromets." The name "Ilya Muromets" (S-22) received a series of four-engine solid-wood biplanes, one of which first flew up in the sky in 1913. The aircraft were produced by the Russian-Baltic Carriage Works from 1913 to 1918. A total of 80 cars were produced. “Ilya Muromets” became famous for the records set on it for the maximum flight altitude, carrying capacity, time and number of passengers.
    In 1919, Sikorsky emigrated to America.
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      Oh! Is our school ?? By your logic, if the Wright brothers invented an airplane, is the Su-34 also an American development branch? lol
    2. reactivnyi 30 October 2015 01: 31 New
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      Anyway, for me he is a traitor to the Motherland .... Talk not about the bad Great Soviet power, I beg you, you like to be powerless slaves now - for God's sake, but he is a traitor (the Jewish face) and he will die in a foreign land.
  25. ivan bogomolov 29 October 2015 17: 21 New
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    Another American bucket with all amenities. wassat
  26. twincam 29 October 2015 17: 23 New
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    Hmm, he looks, to put it mildly, an amateur.

    MI-26 is definitely better and more beautiful.
  27. Sashka 29 October 2015 17: 24 New
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    This is a fairly reliable, "bucket" that has long served itself quite well in many areas as a minesweeper and special forces transport.

    And this is because the founder of the company comes from Russia ... That's how, even there, beyond the hill, what was born in the Russian head serves faithfully ... =)
  28. Zai pali 29 October 2015 17: 35 New
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    See how it flies smoothly, a real heavy helicopter

    https://youtu.be/rBP1cIh27Oo
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    good time-tested machine
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    They decided not to develop a new engine? They slammed the third one and forward.
  31. BARMEN628651 29 October 2015 17: 40 New
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    It seemed to me alone that the car was shaking and heeling.
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      So it’s for all aircraft of the GDP, whether it’s self-made, or spit ...
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    Something is hard to believe that 55 people will fit there. Is that a jack and in several layers ...
  33. Bort radist 29 October 2015 18: 04 New
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    It seemed to me alone that the car was shaking and heeling.

    "... the stability of the machine was tested when hanging at a height of 9,1 meters within the effect of the earth cushion, that is, the air flows reflected from the earth's surface from the rotor"- told the press service. Everyone is "dancing" by the ground, with a set would be a more equal flight.
  34. afrikanez 29 October 2015 18: 14 New
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    Designers did their best! laughing
    1. Manul 29 October 2015 21: 56 New
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      Designers did their best!

      Sorry, but what kind of nonsense are you talking about? Since when have designers developed military equipment? fool All the beauty of technology comes exclusively from functionality. If the design interferes with the matter, then what a design. And vice versa - an ugly sturdy man who has earned respect will immediately begin to like everyone. This is absolutely.
      Yes, be it a box with ugly upholstery, if it functions perfectly, and crumble the enemy (that is, for example), then believe me (!!!) - it will immediately seem beautiful and serious to everyone. And no one will think about joking with him.!
  35. evgen75 29 October 2015 18: 19 New
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    similar to pepelats
  36. mosquit 29 October 2015 18: 20 New
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    This helicopter is an analogue of the Mi-6 (unfortunately this category of helicopter is not in Russia)
    CH-53E (1974) Payload: 37-64 soldiers or 24 stretchers or 13608 kg of cargo in the cabin or 9072 kg on the suspension of two or three 7.62-mm six-barrel machine guns GAU-2B / A Minigun

    Mi - 6 The load in the cabin, kg - 12 000 The load on the suspension, kg - 8000

    It carries 1-2 platoons, depending on the equipment, refueling ...

    Comparison with the Mi-26 is completely out of place ...
  37. fa2998 29 October 2015 18: 55 New
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    Male! The refueling bar is brutal. Did the developers hear anything about aerodynamics?

    Well, he doesn’t go on the podium, and a cargo helicopter flying at a cruising speed of 200-250 is too perverted with aerodynamics. The helicopter is powerful and reliable. Adapted to the deck, the radius (and also refueling) is huge. Our course is nicer, but this one is 4+. hi
  38. With Siberian Cranes 29 October 2015 19: 30 New
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    In the news about the American helicopter, more comments about the Ukrainian! Tired of my Ukraine already
  39. TIO1969 29 October 2015 20: 20 New
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    how appropriate and, most importantly, is it safe to use such a monster in a landing?
    If you look at the story of his predecessor - CH-53 "Sea Stelon", the picture is not unique ...
    During the Vietnam War, the Americans lost 36 CH-53 Sea Stelon helicopters of various modifications. At least six CH-53 helicopters were lost in Afghanistan. In Iraq, a case is known when a helicopter was shot down from an RPG.
    1. Izotovp 29 October 2015 20: 40 New
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      The use of any helicopter for landing requires a competent approach: reconnaissance, sweeping, support, etc. .. Neglect of any of the articles of the charter generates either heroism or tragedy ... sometimes all together (((
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      Quote: TIO1969
      how appropriate and, most importantly, is it safe to use such a monster in a landing?

      The most important thing is the POSSIBILITY of landing. If you have something, you yourself will choose a place and time. And quite possibly it will be a deserted beach without waiting for defensive lines. Tell me - this is how we can carry out the landing of the sea? And especially tell us about shore delivery.
      You can’t even consider today, it’s clear that all our landing ships in Syria are busy. So, in principle, outline, you can even with an eye to the future.
  40. Izotovp 29 October 2015 20: 26 New
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    The fact of the matter is that they have turntables like we have BTR-a lot and everyone. And we have nothing similar in this class. Everything is up to the platoon, and if more, by plane, which in the case of mobilization may not be enough, and all the necessary runways will be already bombed.
  41. Mera joota 29 October 2015 20: 43 New
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    The feeling that most reason with the spinal cord and US templates is bad, Russia is good. Only an ignoramus can compare a shipborne heavy landing helicopter with a heavy transport helicopter. Mocking how “easy” it is possible to bring down it can only be one who does not remember the tragedy with Mi26 in Khankala and how many young guys died in this ...
  42. leon1204id 29 October 2015 20: 55 New
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    Do not LA-LA MI-6 is not Ukrainian but Soviet. The memory is girlish. But MI-26-T2 is already real for the Russian Federation. The modernization of MI-6 in MI-26 not far bounced on the performance characteristics. However, 70 (according to other sources 82) paratroopers instead of 55 (U SN-53K) for the same ~ 800 km. In Afghanistan, more than 6 people were slaughtered in MI-100th and he was carrying them.
    The main problem is the Motor Sich engines (D-136). This company closes after joining the EU, it is a pity both the resources and the people. Soviet standards are not needed by the EU.
    Although we climb: http://www.dp.ru/a/2015/02/18/K_2017_godu_Rossija_polnos/
    I would be glad if someone throws info on our projects for heavy helicopters. hi
  43. mav1971 29 October 2015 20: 56 New
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    Let's sum up.
    Uryakalki really do not know anything about the helicopters of a potential enemy.
    Not about his appointment.
    Not about its use.
    Not about its characteristics.
    Compare the ass with a finger, i.e. incomparable.
    The functionality of its use is very wide. And the modifications are complete. And they were released not by 1 demo or layout, but by dozens and all worked / working.
  44. Old26 29 October 2015 22: 58 New
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    And as in the photo above, raise the Tu-134? Weak?

    What the fuck. Is this the purpose of helicopters to lift planes?
    The helicopter is adapted for long-haul flights, has a refueling system in the air, and can be based on ships. And for them, the SN-53K has 16 tons of load. And most importantly, they have more than the MI-26 we have ... In principle, a normal helicopter, a workhorse ... But you like the look or don’t like it — matters of taste and helicopter schools
  45. Manul 29 October 2015 23: 24 New
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    And the most interesting thing for me is the concept of the forward inclined angle of the screw (it’s clear why it’s lateral - it was the first people in Milevts who came up with it). Our helicopter pilots took off in the mountains of Afghanistan, tilting the car forward while running on takeoff. Here, the propeller works not only up, but also initially forward. Is it only in this project that was invented, or was it already implemented before? Tell me who knows! Or is it everywhere, but I did not notice? repeat
  46. NordUral 30 October 2015 00: 06 New
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    No TTX, without them it’s empty chatter.
    Searched for data. It was already estimated that it was much weaker than our Mi-26, and it turns out that way.
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      For an approximate acquaintance.
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      And here is our, very Soviet, Mi-26. Neither add nor decrease. Golden section technology.
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      Quote: NordUral
      No TTX, without them it’s empty chatter.
      Searched for data. It was already estimated that it was much weaker than our Mi-26, and it turns out that way.

      For that, and comments to discuss everything. It seems like a marshal, but look at the "year of birth", everything is immediately clear.
      The Chukchi comes to the publishing house. -However, I composed a novel, please type it. The editor looked and says - Fundamentally, but the syllable is lame. You should read the classics, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky .. In response, Chukchi is not a reader, however. Chukchi is a writer.
  47. Arikkhab 30 October 2015 00: 54 New
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    it is not clear what suddenly began to compare with the Mi-26? The helicopter itself is not bad, and the pace of release is normal ... plus the Americans have a wide range of aircraft, and we have the stews chasing Mi-8s ... well, yes, we are rich, eat the "golden stew" ... and the helicopter is normal, I had to fly on the sn-53e, it’s quite suitable for the tasks
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    An ordinary modern transport helicopter, which was created to perform a certain range of tasks. Better .. worse .. is it interesting to me that you ever came to a helicopter? Or did you fly? Is there anything to compare ???
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    Sikorsky, too, has been flying for 30 years. This is an upgraded version, type Mi-171. it is heavier than the Mi-8 and lighter than the Mi-26. It seems with 4 engines. I don’t think that companies in the USA have the technical ability to make a heavy Mi-26 helicopter. In cap countries, the ideology of creating technology is slightly different and better with roads than ours. And so, they have all the technical capabilities for this. If they need such devices as MI-26, the United States will simply buy them from us, having paid for an alteration to its standards, as it was in Afghanistan, it will be more profitable than developing and launching a series of its heavy helicopter.
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    Quote: Zaurbek
    And so, they have all the technical capabilities for this. If they need such devices as MI-26, the United States will simply buy them from us, having paid for an alteration to its standards, as it was in Afghanistan, it will be more profitable than developing and launching a series of its heavy helicopter.

    Do not add, do not diminish.