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Plan "CCC"

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Chairman of the State Duma Committee Alexei Pushkov recently repeated the position of Moscow that in February 2014, Washington and its vassals, having organized the Bandera coup in Kiev, crossed the red line in relation to Russia.


Plan "CCC"


Indeed, at that time Moscow made a decision at the level of the Federation Council on the possible entry of Russian troops into Ukraine to protect the Russian-speaking population, the Crimea was reunited and supported by the Donbass. However, then the decision on the introduction of troops was canceled, and another strategy of Moscow was adopted with respect to Washington and its Ukrainian policy, which is called differently.

In the press, it is declared the Russian equivalent of the western “hybrid war”, and many commentators see it as some kind of “Putin’s cunning plan”. They have already lost count of this "HPP", and the Kremlin is stamping and stamping them all ...

This nonsense led to the emergence of the Internet party “Putin merged”, which stands for decisive actions in Ukraine, and a change in the strategy of Moscow, all these “HPP”, filled with negative meaning. However, the Syrian operation of the VKS of Russia, using high-precision “Calibrov”, “overturned the entire Middle East alignment,” according to independent political analyst Henry Kissinger, has become, by their method, a new and successful “HSP”!

Does the Kremlin really work on plans that almost instantly change the political situation in the world? By the way, it is about this that the president of the Bandera junta Poroshenko trumpets that “green men” can appear anywhere at any moment, however, this only indicates what crazy ideas can be born in a special, svidom state of the brain.

Moscow everywhere proceeds from the real political situation and the 2014 of the year in Ukraine, and in Syria by the autumn of 2015, and makes decisions when it is no longer “tolerable”, according to Vladimir Putin. When inaction in the evolving circumstances has the inevitable consequence of heavy consequences for the security of Russia. So it was in the Crimea and in the Donbass, so it was in Syria.

The delay with the help of Syria Bashar Assad led to a military victory for ISIS with the obvious connivance and implicit assistance of Washington, and the creation in Syria of an extremist state (!) Entity with a pronounced anti-Russian orientation. Behind which, as on Bandera Ukraine, would stand Washington. In principle, the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria is similar to the actions in the Crimea, which prevented it from becoming a US military base.

Therefore, the maritime "Russian express" to Syria organically supplemented the air bridge across Iran and Iraq, which made it possible to deploy the forces of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Latakia (Syria), and at the same time cover the air base of the Navy in Tartus.

Iguil's ambiguity of the US position gave Russia a political opportunity to go to Syria: formally, the US could not object to Russia's struggle with ISIS, especially at the request of the legitimate government of Syria.

Does this mean that Moscow is only defending itself against American expansion, and its plan is to establish a harmonious relationship in the world, the so-called “multipolar world,” as the Russian leadership officially declares? This ultimate goal of Russia is even obvious, however, after all, we need a concrete plan on how to achieve it ...

Nobody will tell us anything about this specific plan of Russia in achieving a multipolar world in the foreseeable future, if it exists at all. Perhaps, Russia instinctively, proceeds from its traditional strategy of “following the natural course of events”, using and directing it to its advantage, which Kutuzov most vividly embodied in the war with Napoleon. Retreating and counterattacking until the enemy is exhausted ...

In other, tougher words, this plan can be called “Consume Yourself”, and Russia will help you with this, create conditions for this ... In fact, in the face of many times superior enemy forces, it is foolish to give a decisive battle, and Kutuzov retreated, only counterattacking , and the French army was exhausted and decomposed.

Russia is in the same situation today. In general, the military and economic power of the West far exceeds Russia's potential, although it falls. Possible allies of Russia from non-Western countries are increasing, but so far they can not help significantly. Therefore, Russia de facto adheres to the “CCC” plan for the West, counterattacking when possible in Ukraine and Syria, playing on the contradictions and mistakes of the Western policy. So far, Russia's nuclear fist is keeping our American opponents from decisive battle.

Washington's crazy policy of “democratic” overthrowing of any governments independent of it, the Bandera and Igilov extremism / Nazism produced by him to the world already destroy the Western world by migrants from the Middle East (Ukraine is next in line), lead to the revival of Nazi tendencies in the West and the split of society, the growth of anti-Western sentiment in the world.

The rising star of the Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, formulated this position as follows: Russia will always be open for partnership with the West. Her boss, Sergey Lavrov, says this more simply: “it is always helpful to talk” ...

... The question is how long will Moscow be able to follow its CAS plan?

It depends not only on Moscow, but also on Washington. For some reason, many of our reputable observers say that Washington sometimes does not understand something, and on crucial issues, such as the essence of the “Bandera revolution” ... This is, at best, our mistakes: he understands everything, his “mistakes” are reality failures quite conscious politics. He understands the essence of the SSS plan, and, probably, he thinks how to answer it ...

Washington is not only politically insane in its mania of exclusivity, but already totalitarian, in fact, it is already an electronic concentration camp, the consciousness of its slaves is controlled by computer technology, ”Edward Snowden told the world of the fugitive from the matrix. But the strength of the Western media in the territory under their control is such that objective information is no longer perceived. This allows the “exceptional” government, in principle, to make any exceptional decision ...

Especially if you miss the usual "bread" for her slaves. Then the exit for her will be new and more terrible spectacles like LIH. Recall that the United States dropped atomic bombs on the completely peaceful Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, where there were no troops or military factories, just to intimidate ...
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  1. MDesant
    MDesant 30 October 2015 06: 27 New
    19
    It is better to be a fool at your own peril and risk than a sage based on the opinions of others.
    Japanese wisdom
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 30 October 2015 08: 15 New
      +7
      And in Ukraine at this time another "madhouse".

      Germany offers Ukraine a loan of three billion euros to accommodate 400 thousand refugees. About this, referring to the publications of Western media, the journalist Yevgeny Dimitrash tells in the latest issue of his video blog “Milk”.

      http://www.politnavigator.net/germaniya-predlagaet-ukraine-sdelku-kredit-3-mlrd-
      evro-za-razmeshhenie-400-tysyach-bezhencev.html
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 30 October 2015 08: 24 New
        +6
        Quote: Voha_krim
        Germany offers Ukraine a loan of three billion euros to accommodate 400 thousand refugees.

        Well, it was sewn from a bag, it simply begs
      2. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 30 October 2015 08: 44 New
        +8
        Quote: Voha_krim
        Germany offers Ukraine a loan of three billion euros to accommodate 400 thousand refugees. About this, referring to the publications of Western media, the journalist Yevgeny Dimitrash tells in the latest issue of his video blog “Milk”.

        Evgeny Gilbo: In Ukraine, no more than eight million people will survive.
        Sunday, Jun 22. 2014

        The article I am referring to today is controversial. And in the summer of 2014 it was read as absolute nonsense.
        But the lines from the article:
        "... Corr .: Ukrainians have taken their own destiny into their own hands and will determine it, and not some ephemeral corporations.

        EG: You don't even get close to what I mean. As well as all used Ukraine. War media propaganda is not enough here, you were anesthetized with something else before euthanasia. Ukraine was sentenced not just to euthanasia, but to genocide. It was decided that there should be no Slavic population in this region. Between the Russian Federation or what remains of it and Europe there must be a culturally alien space ... "and so on.
        Strelkov and Syria are also mentioned there ...
      3. mihasik
        mihasik 30 October 2015 11: 00 New
        +5
        Quote: Voha_krim
        Germany offers Ukraine a loan of three billion euros to accommodate 400 thousand refugees.

        And most importantly, guess the first time where they will be placed?
        I give 100%, it will be Eastern Ukraine, closer to Russia.
      4. a housewife
        a housewife 30 October 2015 16: 53 New
        +2
        These 400 tf. the refugee will eat the same loan very quickly, then they will start demanding more. And this is even if most of the loans powders do not grab (which no one will believe).
        1. sssla
          sssla 30 October 2015 18: 43 New
          +2
          Recall that the United States dropped atomic bombs on the completely peaceful Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, where there were no troops or military factories, just for the sake of intimidation ...
          And that in Yugoslavia (and in Iraq) the depleted uranushka was not dispelled in different ways throughout the territory except for the zones where the troops of mattresses and aglichians stood ??? Let the doctors tell how it affected people and in the future will show. This is a fresh example !! Yes, for each case individually of these sou Chat with accomplices in the latrine hole at least need to be dipped !!! And they still fuss and explain! ?? People are a herd of brainless and not reading and not interested in anything but to blow what and whom !!! Shove your tolerance with a tube rolled up and a fly not sawed into ..pu !!! I feel soon there will be such a struggle for peace that ...
      5. Alf
        Alf 30 October 2015 20: 18 New
        +2
        Quote: Voha_krim
        Germany offers Ukraine a loan of three billion euros to accommodate 400 thousand refugees.

        So, soon we will see real afroxoxles.
        For example, such ...
  2. strelets
    strelets 30 October 2015 06: 35 New
    +3
    Just a few years ago, no one would have thought that Europe was flaring up. It seems that the Second World War (the Great Patriotic War) is still fresh in my memory. However, for the sake of momentary ambitions, politicians are ready to sacrifice very, very much. And history does not teach anyone anything.
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 30 October 2015 06: 56 New
      +6
      For this, the NATO organized crime group was created to keep Europe at risk first. Europe began to become a little independent, it began to agree on something with Russia and the leaders of the organized crime group did not like it, so what started is happening ...
    2. Gloomy
      Gloomy 30 October 2015 08: 46 New
      +5
      Quote: strelets
      Just a few years ago, no one would have thought that Europe was flaring up.


      Well, why, dear E. Satanovsky, has long been talking about this.
      And Wang foresaw cataclysms in Europe.
      In general, it’s just sparks, a fire can still break out.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 30 October 2015 06: 37 New
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    Are the Kremlin really working on plans that almost instantly change the political situation in the world?.. All night in the Kremlin the light was on, the GDP was considering another KhPP .. smile
    1. askort154
      askort154 30 October 2015 08: 14 New
      -6
      bully parusnik ...... All night in the Kremlin the light was on, the GDP was considering the next KhPP ..


      Yeah! I understood one thing from the article, the author decided to become the first owner of the abbreviations:
      - KhPP is Putin’s cunning plan;
      - STS - eat yourself.
      And he wrote either with a hangover, or with his participation.
  4. EGOrkka
    EGOrkka 30 October 2015 06: 37 New
    +1

    that Washington sometimes doesn’t understand something


    ... I think so ... everything that is done by the school ... or not done .... quite conscious decisions, moreover, there is a PLAN that is adjusted as it moves .... towards the goal. bully
  5. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 30 October 2015 06: 42 New
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    But the strength of Western media in the territory they control is such that objective information is no longer perceived. This allows the "exclusive" authorities, in principle, to make any exceptional decision ...
    Anything any. But you cannot drive your "loved ones" into underground bunkers indefinitely. They are bad guys, of course, but not to the same extent. And this is how they can and they are very good at it.
  6. Aleksander
    Aleksander 30 October 2015 06: 52 New
    +3
    Moscow made a decision at the level of the Federation Council on the possible entry of Russian troops into Ukraine to protect Russian-speaking population


    There was NO WORD on protection Russian-speaking population and was not even implied, why write this nonsense?
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 30 October 2015 08: 04 New
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      Quote: Aleksander
      There was NO WORD on the protection of the Russian-speaking population

      it was, it was! Google and find. and just at the meeting and decision of the Federation Council of Russia. The wording was such that "not only in Crimea, but throughout Ukraine"
      Hence Strelkov, who believed that he was only the first swallow, but "it did not work out." Therefore, other regions did not revolt, they just know that there will be no support. Will support where it will be beneficial to Russian oligarchs (sorry)
      N-yes, and yesterday Donetsk again fired from cannons. Let's wait Minsk-3?
      1. Aleksander
        Aleksander 31 October 2015 05: 35 New
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        Quote: Egoza
        it was, it was! Google and find. and just at the meeting and decision of the Federation Council of Russia. The wording was such that "not only in Crimea, but throughout Ukraine"


        There wasn’t, wasn’t! And the wording you mentioned was NOT. It was not about Crimea, but about all Ukraine generally:

        Putin: "Due to the extraordinary situation that has developed in Ukraine, a threat to the lives of citizens of the Russian Federation, our compatriots, personnel of the military contingent of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation .. I ask .., .
        About the Russian-speaking population, NO WORDS!
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  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 October 2015 07: 00 New
    +4
    Recall that the United States dropped atomic bombs on the completely peaceful Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, where there were no troops or military factories, just for the sake of intimidation ...


    And not before any court did not appear. And they won’t appear, it seems.
    And one would have to ask, and not only for atomic bombings, but also for ALL crimes against humanity!
    1. cergey51046
      cergey51046 30 October 2015 07: 20 New
      +4
      Now Japan is crouching in front of the United States. Afraid of repetition. The USA is the main terrorist on Earth.
    2. Denis DV
      Denis DV 30 October 2015 17: 53 New
      +1
      They will appear if they continue to consider themselves exceptional. The fate of Russia is exceptional to exclude, making them bo-bo hi
  8. 31rus
    31rus 30 October 2015 07: 14 New
    -6
    Brad Moscow "slept through" Ukraine, everything else is just tactical moves, all attempts to link Syria and Ukraine are not sustainable, Ukraine is a failure and not some kind of Crimea that does not save our reputation
    1. GYGOLA
      GYGOLA 30 October 2015 11: 04 New
      -2
      I would say I didn’t oversleep, but I didn’t, because everyone saw everything for a month. And intentionally or because of negligence, this is another question. Is Syria more expensive?
  9. vitya1945
    vitya1945 30 October 2015 07: 16 New
    0
    They’re striped at the bottom, they bred everyone like fools, but it seems that many have begun to see clearly.
  10. Boris55
    Boris55 30 October 2015 07: 17 New
    -1
    ... then Moscow made a decision at the level of the Federation Council on the possible entry of Russian troops into Ukraine ...

    The United States really wanted to drag us into the war with Europe and Yanukovych, worrying about its loot acquired by back-breaking labor right there with a request to send troops. The President has the right to deploy troops anywhere in the World, with subsequent approval or not SF. By the way, in Syria, troops were first introduced and only then the Federation Council approved and then the active phase of their use began. Why does the SF run ahead of the steam locomotive whose order was fulfilled by the representatives of the SF?
    1. 31rus
      31rus 30 October 2015 07: 38 New
      -5
      Do you believe? I am not Europe was not ready for a "fictitious" war with Russia, this is from the same opera, if we entered the national liberation movement, where would it have arisen from Brussels? Not competence, but maybe fear of the West led in Ukraine to what we have and it is not yet known where it will emerge
      1. GYGOLA
        GYGOLA 30 October 2015 11: 13 New
        -4
        Not competence, but maybe fear of the West in Ukraine led to the fact that we have and it is not yet known where it will come up
        As soon as it began to reach: "a fight is brewing, hit first" - is it not too late, maybe a bit with the concept; or is it a bluff, they say, be afraid of the West, that's how we can talk. And Ukraine has been late on and overlaid NATO from all sides, soon on Ukraine is about
        where will it come out
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  12. Egoza
    Egoza 30 October 2015 08: 10 New
    +5
    One person said that near the GDP, "20% are smart, 30% are fools and 50% are traitors." Maybe this is the reason for such decisions?
    Vaughn, Germany offers Ukraine a loan of 3 lard, provided that 400 thousand refugees are taken away. And they will take it! "Ukroverha" haven't got drunk yet. only I doubt that they will send exactly "refugees". Will it turn out that by fighting in Syria, Russia will miss the IS troops at its very border on the territory of Ukraine?
    1. Victor Kamenev
      30 October 2015 09: 51 New
      +5
      Doesn't blink anymore. They can accept the "Syrians", but Moscow may not believe it, say that it is ISIS and send a doctor from the Aerospace Forces.
    2. silver_roman
      silver_roman 30 October 2015 12: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: Egoza
      400 thousand refugees

      let's say at best, among them there will be 10% of thugs, at worst all 50%, BUT I'm sure that intelligence is not sleeping.
      Then the Donbass will openly strengthen, not hiding under any slogans.
      The first thing that will need to be done is to show the "civilized" world what these refugees are, and then do everything to destroy them, not allowing them to reach the border.
      The worst thing is that it will be a tough guerrilla war on the territory of the cities of the DNI and LC, and therefore there will be more new civilian casualties and further destruction of infrastructure.
      If the situation takes such a turn, then ideally for the Russian Federation, it is necessary to demolish the junta and liberate Ukraine, but not with the army, but with subversive activities, with the help of various NGOs, at least a new Maidan, with only opposite views and goals.
      You don't need much for this. Several thousand people, a good shot (picture) on TV. Remember the presidential elections in Ukraine: who knew anything about PARAShenko? and suddenly ba-baaaah, all at once are all in one head: "yes he is a great guy." nonsense and false.
  13. 31rus
    31rus 30 October 2015 08: 52 New
    +1
    Dear, justify your cons, the facts where?
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 30 October 2015 09: 51 New
      +5
      I didn’t set you down, in Ukraine I also think that Russia should have achieved much more than just Crimea. The actions of America that climbed into Ukraine are not only immense impudence, it is a spit on our authority and political will. And not here Russia should somehow make excuses, but the United States. America is unlikely to get away with it if it were to do the same with China or, even, with North Korea. The Yankees could not help but know what Kiev and Ukrainian land itself mean to us, which since childhood for every Russian has been inextricable from the historical roots of our ancestors. Unfortunately, not only Europe, but also capitalist Russia with its oligarchs became dependent on the United States. How much Putin decides everything, how much our desires coincide with our capabilities, the question is ... I think that Putin doesn’t have everything, he has more information, he considered various options, but what happened happened. History will already judge where weakness and error are, where is wisdom and talent. Whatever it was, but for Ukraine, for pitting Russians with Russians, for the revival of Bandera, the States will have to answer, like those who could show a betrayal of Russia's national interests here.
    2. a housewife
      a housewife 30 October 2015 17: 06 New
      +1
      You, too, justify all your words, so anyone can - blunder the tongue, and you prove why you do not agree. What would you say before during World War II? Like, Stalin is afraid of the West, incompetence has led us to the fact that we have and it is not known what it will result in ... Especially among the military would such a speech! You would not be able to finish the phrase! not because they feared Stalin, but because it was the speech of a traitor.
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  14. Victor Kamenev
    30 October 2015 09: 47 New
    +1
    The "CCC" plan is a reflection on the "HPP", the fact that the "HPP" is being seriously discussed. The prospects are hybrid, but they are improving. In comparison with 1941 ... here it is even impossible to compare, today comparisons with 1943, when there was a war with the Nazis on the territory of Ukraine, are more fair. Russia is strengthening and advancing, America can do nothing about it. No matter how hard it tries ... the Aerospace Forces in Syria is an offensive operation by Russia from the point of view of the Great Game, it is a blow to US policy in the BV, and they are retreating, they have already "recognized Assad." Everything will be fine!
    1. Gani
      Gani 30 October 2015 10: 00 New
      +6
      Good afternoon!
      The Aerospace Forces in Syria is an offensive operation of Russia from the point of view of the Great Game, it is a blow to the US policy in the BV, and they are retreating, already "Assad recognized

      I think more likely CONTRACTIVE: I repeat one comment
      Unfortunately, the United States probably achieved a lot of what they wanted. Their operations are not planned for a positive or negative result - any such multi-step should have several positive results for the planners in any [right] development of events. (remember the movie with Eddie Murphy, where his character accidentally became a senator, - the assistant brings him a bill (for example, I don’t remember exactly how it was) to reduce harmful emissions from thermal power plants and explains if we vote AGAIN - the owners of these stations will pay if FOR - the owners of the NPPs and filter manufacturers will pay, that is, in ANY case we’ll earn)
      And they dragged the Russian Federation into the game in HIS and in Syria, and in Ukraine, and in Georgia - we were forced to answer. But it seems to me that our strategists are planning countermeasures on the basis of judo-sambo - use the strength of the enemy against him, and they also snatch positive moments for our country even in a strange game.
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 30 October 2015 10: 44 New
      +4
      Quote: Victor Kamenev
      today, comparisons with 1943, when there was a war with the Nazis on the territory of Ukraine, are more fair. Russia strengthens and advances

      Rather, since 1916, Brusilov was also advancing then, consider Syria as Serbia then, and then the troops of the Republic of Ingushetia participated in Serbia
    3. 31rus
      31rus 30 October 2015 11: 04 New
      +1
      Dear Victor, what's good? Syria is Russia's success, first of all, political and no less important military, the goals set are being fulfilled, Ukraine is much more difficult here, no one does not call for the introduction of troops, time has passed, no matter how much we want, Ukraine will "hurt "hatred of Russia, the reason you know yourself, is not worth writing out" great "plans, because Ukraine is now a hostile state and how it will all end is difficult to imagine, here are my facts
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  15. Canister shot
    Canister shot 30 October 2015 10: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: Voha_krim
    http://www.politnavigator.net/germaniya-predlagaet-ukraine-sdelku-kredit-3-mlrd-

    evro-za-razmeshhenie-400-tysyach-bezhencev.html

    garbage site like the Ukrainian censor. repost him at least not smart
  16. Altona
    Altona 30 October 2015 10: 55 New
    +9
    We will always answer, maybe not right away, but then harshly ...
  17. akudr48
    akudr48 30 October 2015 12: 09 New
    +4
    The situation with Crimea, Donbass and Syria can also be explained without any KhPP, CCC and similar plans that simply do not exist in nature, by the Arnoldi Toynbee scheme, in which
    the appearance of a call and the answer to it when the country being challenged tries to find an answer, in a traditional or non-traditional way.

    1. The coup in Kiev, used by the West - a challenge for Russia
    Russia's answer is reunion with Crimea

    2. Reunification with Crimea is a challenge for the West,
    The answer of the West is sanctions against Russia,

    3. Sanctions of the West against Russia - a challenge for Russia,
    Russia's answer - assistance to the uprising in the Donbass, Russian World

    4. The uprising in the Donbass - a challenge to the West,
    The answer of the West is the war in the Donbass,

    5. The war in the Donbass - a challenge to Russia,
    Russia's answer - the offensive in August - September 2014, Ilovaisk boiler

    6. Ilovaysky boiler and the fall of Ukraine (which was nearby) - a challenge for the West
    Western response - new sanctions and threats of a big war in the event of the capture of Mariupol

    7. Russia's response to threats - Minsk1,
    The answer of the West is pressure, shelling of civilians in the Donbass,

    8. The shelling of Donetsk - a challenge to Russia,
    Russia's answer is Debaltsevsky boiler and Minsk2,

    9. Minsk2 - a challenge for the West
    The answer of the West is the freezing of the situation in the Donbass, with the loss of pace and quality of the game for Russia

    10. Loss of pace and quality in the Donbass - a challenge for Russia
    Russia's answer - the actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces, aircraft and missiles in Syria

    11. Actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces, aircraft and missiles in Syria - a challenge for the West
    The answer of the West is that the West thinks, but harms as it can ...

    It seems to be a game, a continuous call is the answer, but this pairing cannot last long, the call is close, to which the final answer will be, already without a subsequent call, since there will be nothing to answer ...

    The question is whether such an operational - tactical, so to speak, winning strategy for Russia, in other words, who will answer last?
    1. Gani
      Gani 31 October 2015 10: 08 New
      0
      Good afternoon! somehow everything is too linear, like in the game of a fool, it seems to me much harder, the same Donbass tangle of interests and local and world actors, with Syria is not at all simpler and the processes, although interconnected, proceed in parallel.
      и
      2. Reunification with Crimea is a challenge for the West,
      The answer of the West is sanctions against Russia,

      3. Sanctions of the West against Russia - a challenge for Russia,
      Russia's answer - assistance to the uprising in the Donbass, Russian World

      4. The uprising in the Donbass - a challenge to the West,
      The answer of the West is the war in the Donbass,

      if the uprising in the Donbass is a challenge to the West, then it’s too clumsy somehow, and in general, everything was done on the part of Ukraine for this uprising and the subsequent civil war to take place (parallels with the 1st Chechen war arise - it also seems to be that the problem is intentionally in the war turned with the most direct participation of people from the power of Russia), and Present Ukraine is clearly trying NOT to work neither in the interests of Russia, nor in its own.
      Rather, the challenge of Russia to the West, and especially the United States, is that the Russian Federation is taking shape as the center of power — political, military, and economic, too.
  18. shultc
    shultc 30 October 2015 12: 56 New
    +8
    Brad Moscow "slept through" Ukraine, everything else is just tactical moves, all attempts to link Syria and Ukraine are not sustainable, Ukraine is a failure and not some kind of Crimea that does not save our reputation
    I would say I didn’t oversleep, but I didn’t, because everyone saw everything for a month. And intentionally or because of negligence, this is another question. Is Syria more expensive?

    IMHO: As I understand it, in / for Ukraine for more than 20 years there has developed such a shitty society, mixed up with the ideas of Bandera and Nazism that no Russian intervention will change the situation at the moment. It (Mr.) must ferment, distill in its own juice, outlive itself, having gone through all stages of self-purification. Then, perhaps, the people of Ukraine will change their minds if they don’t bend over in the Nazi abyss. But only after that you can talk with them and agree on something. In the meantime, we, the Russians for Svidomo, are not brothers Slavs, but quilted jackets and. So this process was measured not by one month, but by decades.
  19. cniza
    cniza 30 October 2015 14: 12 New
    +3
    Quote: mihasik
    Quote: Voha_krim
    Germany offers Ukraine a loan of three billion euros to accommodate 400 thousand refugees.

    And most importantly, guess the first time where they will be placed?
    I give 100%, it will be Eastern Ukraine, closer to Russia.



    And then, where else, only if these refugees want to stay there.
    1. the villain
      the villain 30 October 2015 15: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: cniza
      will these refugees want to stay there

      Whatever you probably wouldn’t want, you need to arrange some thread of an air show next to it good .
      God forbid, without shooting and bombing, just "disadvantaged" to entertain a little hi
  20. cniza
    cniza 30 October 2015 14: 14 New
    +6
    Quote: Egoza
    Quote: Aleksander
    There was NO WORD on the protection of the Russian-speaking population


    N-yes, and yesterday Donetsk again fired from cannons. Let's wait Minsk-3?



    It will look like Kiev - kaput, patience is not eternal.
  21. bad
    bad 3 November 2015 14: 21 New
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    photo in the article is cool laughing