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Economic prodigies of the Russian government predict a complete depletion of the Reserve Fund in 2016-2017

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The total volume of the Reserve Fund of the Russian Federation on October 1 of the current year (data from the Ministry of Finance of Russia) amounted to 70,51 billion dollars (approximately 4,67 trillion rubles) - 6,4% of GDP. It would seem that the airbag of financial security is quite solid (even by Kudrinsky standards), but it turns out that those who have it tear their hair at the Russian Finance Ministry, claiming that the pillow will soon cease to save Russia.


What remains of the hair on his head, is trying to tear the main government financial specialist Anton Siluanov, who said that 2016 could be the last year of the Russian Reserve Fund.

Finance Minister quoted by the news agency TASS:
At about 2,6 trillion rubles, we will reduce (this year) the amount of our reserves - more than half. All this means that 2016 year is the year when we can spend our reserves, our reserves, for the last year. And then we will not have such resources. If today's oil prices and the exchange rate remain, and today oil prices are about $ 44 barrels for Urals, and the ruble exchange rate is about 62 rubles. per dollar, then we can receive less 900 billion rubles. We really have such risks.


The hair and first deputy head of Mr. Silaunov Tatiana Nesterenko is tearing at his head, stating that if not in 2016, then in 2017-2018, the Reserve Fund will definitely cease to exist, forcing him to completely forget about the "fat years".

Ms. Nesterenko:
With such a budget deficit, with limited resources to replenish it, when we do not have foreign markets, domestic markets are limited, and if our deficit is vacuumed with recent financial resources, then it will be impossible to talk about development and investment in the private sector. Reserve funds are being depleted. We believe that at such a rate of spending of reserve funds, they can be completed. By the year 2017-2018 we will exhaust those resources that we received at the high price of oil.


For your information:

Anton Germanovich Siluanov - hereditary employee of the Ministry of Finance (in Soviet times, his father German Siluanov worked in the Ministry of Finance of the USSR). A graduate of the Moscow Financial Institute (now the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation) 1985. Doctor of Economic Sciences. Winner of the Order "For Services to the Fatherland" III and IV degrees, medals of the Order "For Services to the Fatherland I degree". Awarded the Certificate of Honor of the President of the Russian Federation. All these awards are for a great contribution to the financial and economic policy of Russia, for success in financial activities.

Tatyana Gennadyevna Nesterenko - A graduate of the Khabarovsk Institute of National Economy with a degree in Finance and Credit (1981 year). Candidate of Economic Sciences. She was awarded medals of the Order for Services to the Fatherland, I and II degrees, the Order of Honor. He is the owner of the Certificate of Honor of the Government of the Russian Federation, Honored Economist of the Russian Federation.

Economic prodigies of the Russian government predict a complete depletion of the Reserve Fund in 2016-2017


The award list, as can be seen, is among our leading government economists the richest, education is more than worthy, scientific degrees are present. And it is precisely this that makes one wonder: what, in fact, are the duties of the top ministry of finance? If it is in the course of its activities to rely on funds accumulated from super-profits during the sale of hydrocarbons, then it is not clear why the minister and his deputy need the degrees of doctor and candidate of economic sciences respectively. After all, if the main task of the ministry is to “promptly” announce to the public that the “egg-bowl” has been completely exhausted, then one of these chairs can sit down just as well with any average head count ...

But nevertheless it is worth turning to officially announced public goals. main financial department country. Perhaps there is really only one goal: to observe, melt or not melt the money of the Reserve Fund, which is not always accumulated even with the direct official participation of senior officials of the Ministry of Finance, and report on the melting to the population through the media, without worrying about how to execute the budget without the hope of reserves. But, it seems, no ... The goals are very versatile:

implementation of a responsible fiscal policy aimed at long-term sustainability;
sustainable functioning of the financial and banking system, the development of the domestic investor;
de-offshorization and the fight against the shadow economy, the return of capital and assets to Russian jurisdiction;
updating forms and mechanisms to ensure the balance and sustainability of regional and municipal finances;
increased debt policy flexibility.


So why, in this case, does it turn out that the minister and his first deputy are paying the first attention to the Reserve Fund, which is being depleted for a number of reasons? Where, in fact, is the implementation of the very "responsible budget policy aimed at long-term sustainability?" Why doctoral and candidate degrees do not allow the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation to effectively “fight against the shadow economy” and follow the path of de-offshore? Why, amid reports of the melting of the Reserve Fund, does the information that Switzerland have Ms. Skrynnik (ex-head of the Ministry of Agriculture) arrest 60 million Swiss francs suddenly come up? Ms. Skrynnik, of course, denies such information, but there is no smoke without fire (especially bearing in mind the recent scandal in the case of theft at Rosagroleasing). Are there any guarantees that other “ex” and not only “ex” do not have funds withdrawn abroad in their astronomical volumes?

It seems that the Ministry of Finance is trying to justify its, to put it mildly, far from the "five" work by the fact that, in order to perform financial and economic tasks, it is necessary, as Tatiana Nesterenko put it, to "vacuum" the reserve funds with a financial deficit. They say that the dollar is “tall”, oil is “rather low” - obligations cannot be fulfilled, and therefore - to walk, so to walk - we will finish off the Reserve Fund for a year or two, and then - ... And then, they say, let someone else think.

It turns out that in the financial department they openly beg for resignation, actually making it clear that they are not in a position to fulfill the tasks facing the department. Spending money at a price of 100-120 dollars per barrel of oil, you know, in a state, and as soon as you need to switch to a productive mode of operation and make real efforts to implement the budget, then immediately into the bushes? .. And, judging by the statements, “in bushes ”is not here and now, but only after the burning of trillions of rubles of the Reserve Fund.

Interesting position. But with the price of oil in 120 "candy wrappers" (and even with a multi-billion dollar cushion of financial security), the above-mentioned average statistical accountant is also able to execute the budget, but you must try to execute it at a price of 45-50 dollars. Or are our economic geeks not trained in this? ..
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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 29 October 2015 06: 06 New
    52
    Well, if this office remains in power, this may not be the case.
    1. Finches
      Finches 29 October 2015 06: 15 New
      99
      I think that the faster the “economic geeks” leave their portfolios, the greater the chance for Russia to stay afloat! True, where to find replacements - there were only graduates of the HSE - an incubator of liberalism who regularly stamped specialists in love with the Western economic model for years.
      1. Penetrator
        Penetrator 29 October 2015 06: 34 New
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        Quote: Finches
        It’s true where to find replacements - only graduates of the Higher School of Economics — an incubator of liberalism that regularly stamped specialists in love with the Western economic model for years — dug around.

        Where? Yes, any chief accountant of a large enterprise with sufficient work experience is quite capable of replacing these stubborn and honored "economists." At least it won’t do any worse, but you can save on ministerial salary smile And then there are some great theorists in the government, but there are not enough practitioners.
        And Nesterenko is like a man in a wig laughing
        1. ZU-23
          ZU-23 29 October 2015 07: 43 New
          14
          These are ordinary cashiers with rat habits inherent in them, even if they did something good, it’s in any way on Putin’s call.
          1. umah
            umah 29 October 2015 08: 50 New
            23
            It seems to me that it would be worthwhile to execute a dozen senior officials with confiscation from all relatives. I am sure that the rest would want to work like this, that there would be no time for any lamentations in the media.
            1. Mareman Vasilich
              Mareman Vasilich 29 October 2015 09: 50 New
              +8
              Especially at the top they know who drained him.
              1. crazyrom
                crazyrom 30 October 2015 02: 04 New
                +3
                People are fooling you. "Funds" is simply a beautiful name for OUR money, which we donate to Americans for use. The so-called "depletion of funds" - in fact, we just take our money back, and use it ourselves, for ourselves, for our own benefit. There shouldn’t be any funds at all, this money has appeared, it must be invested immediately in infrastructure, the army and so on, and not given to the Americans. So the end of the funds is good news, which means America is RETURNING DEBTS to us. China should over 1 trillion, think return? And here we are returned.
                1. klaus16
                  klaus16 30 October 2015 12: 31 New
                  +4
                  The article is good, there’s nothing to add. Here we have such a filthy situation in the country, it's a shame! It's a shame that I am a patriot, I’ll tear the country apart, but knowing such a problem I can’t do anything.
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            2. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 29 October 2015 20: 40 New
              +2
              "Suddenly slips information that Switzerland with Ms. Skrynnik (ex-head of the Ministry of Agriculture) arrested 60 million Swiss francs? Ms. Skrynnik, of course, denies such information"

              If it denies, then the money is not hers, therefore they must be transferred to the state
              1. Turkir
                Turkir 30 October 2015 08: 37 New
                +4
                Skrynnik punished-fired .. from the party.
                1. romaniron
                  romaniron 30 October 2015 11: 35 New
                  +5
                  Wait for the New Year, she will still be awarded the title of Honorary Agronomist of the Russian Federation, and the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, II degree (the second as a punishment for getting caught) !!!
          2. ism_ek
            ism_ek 29 October 2015 10: 23 New
            +8
            The Ministry of Finance - this is the cashiers, well maybe accountants still. Their purpose is to count income and expense.
            It is foolish to require the cashier to deal with the theft of management.
            1. vovanpain
              vovanpain 29 October 2015 10: 47 New
              14
              Quote: ism_ek
              Their purpose is to count income and expense.

              Their purpose is to count the income, the expense is counted by the people in their wallets.
        2. sherp2015
          sherp2015 29 October 2015 07: 51 New
          36
          Quote: Penetrator
          Where? Yes, any chief accountant of a large enterprise with sufficient work experience is quite capable of replacing these stubborn and honored "economists." At least it won’t do any worse, but you can save on ministerial salary


          Without a doubt! For some reason, these “child prodigies” and their bosses have foreign accounts; the kids are studying in the west. Here they earn money, and there is real estate and leisure ... I don’t know, but officials and lawmakers have some sort of mutual responsibility, they support and cover each other. Deputies are satisfied with such a situation and they spank laws not for the people, officials, from their importance, swaggeringly move their lips and puff out their cheeks, the president is silent ...
          Central Russia (Hinterland) is slowly collapsing and dying out.
          1. Hon
            Hon 29 October 2015 08: 38 New
            20
            Quote: sherp2015
            Without a doubt! For some reason, these “child prodigies” and their bosses have foreign accounts; the kids are studying in the west. Here they earn money, and there is real estate and leisure ... I don’t know, but officials and lawmakers have some sort of mutual responsibility, they support and cover each other. Deputies are satisfied with such a situation and they spank laws not for the people, officials, from their importance, swaggeringly move their lips and puff out their cheeks, the president is silent ...

            Thank you, at least the Swiss prosecutor’s office is fighting corruption in Russia wassat
            1. Orionvit
              Orionvit 29 October 2015 09: 28 New
              11
              The Swiss prosecutor’s office is of course “fighting”, but is not going to return the money either.
              1. andj61
                andj61 29 October 2015 09: 40 New
                10
                Quote: Orionvit
                The Swiss prosecutor’s office is of course “fighting”, but is not going to return the money either.

                Nothing - for this amount Skrynnik will pick up property here - there will be something to return! bully Yes, the Swiss will remain. 60 million francs - this is somewhere under 4 lard rubles - good savings for the ordinary minister!
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 29 October 2015 09: 44 New
                  20
                  Quote: andj61
                  Yes, the Swiss will remain. 60 million francs - this is somewhere under 4 lard rubles - good savings for the ordinary minister!

                  shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh our prosecutor’s office isn’t in the know!
                  and generally lowering to rock the boat repeat
                  1. sa-ag
                    sa-ag 29 October 2015 11: 57 New
                    13
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    and generally lowering to rock the boat

                    filled to the brim with money :-)
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 29 October 2015 16: 20 New
                      +8
                      Quote: sa-ag
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      and generally lowering to rock the boat

                      filled to the brim with money :-)


                      dv Suddenly on the people, that something will be splashed.
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                3. Hon
                  Hon 29 October 2015 15: 40 New
                  +9
                  Quote: andj61
                  Nothing - for this amount Skrynnik will pick up property here - there will be something to return! Yes, the Swiss will remain. 60 million francs - this is somewhere under 4 lard rubles - good savings for the ordinary minister!

                  oh, how would she not return the losses from the actions of the Swiss prosecutor’s office from the budget of the Russian Federation, as she had innocently suffered from Western adversaries.
                4. Amurets
                  Amurets 30 October 2015 03: 27 New
                  +2
                  Who will punish her? Take her one-year-old! Even as the head of Rosleasing, she stole so much that she had enough for a series of criminal cases, for which she was appointed Minister of Agriculture. The maximum that she faces abroad is the time limit for money laundering.
              2. Mister22408
                Mister22408 29 October 2015 11: 40 New
                +5
                If there would be a court decision (which will not be, for the crow-to-crow ...), then the money can be returned to the budget of the Russian Federation.
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 29 October 2015 18: 30 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Mister22408
                  then the money can be returned to the budget of the Russian Federation.

                  a budget is a good thing, is it enough for all ministers?
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          2. Uncle Joe
            Uncle Joe 29 October 2015 21: 49 New
            +5
            Quote: sherp2015
            I don’t know, but officials and lawmakers already have some sort of mutual support, support and cover each other. Deputies are satisfied with such a situation and they spank laws not for the people, officials from their importance, swaggeringly move their lips and puff out their cheeks, the president is silent ...
            The president is not silent.

            The President appoints important, swaggering pouting officials to their posts, openly approves the actions of these officials, and signs laws not blinded to the people by a faction of the party, from which he went to the presidential election 3 times, and which he himself created, as a result which has an approval rating of 90%.
            1. SgaSuperblade
              SgaSuperblade 30 October 2015 17: 14 New
              +6
              You would know how much I share your position. We have all the Americans to blame for us. You just imagine how much money is spent on the same Cabinet, the heads of state enterprises. All kinds of top managers. Amounts prohibitive simply. We fart a gigantic amount of real money into mediocrity in power. What are we talking about, we managed to merge a bunch of dough even on the coach of the football team !!!
        3. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 08: 56 New
          +4
          Quote: Penetrator
          And Nesterenko is like a man in a wig

          absolutely right laughing
          our economic geeks are not trained in this

          I didn’t need a question mark, you Alexey answered correctly ..
          1. 341712
            341712 29 October 2015 20: 34 New
            +1
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            Quote: Penetrator
            And Nesterenko is like a man in a wig

            absolutely right laughing
            our economic geeks are not trained in this

            I didn’t need a question mark, you Alexey answered correctly ..

            And let's look from a different angle:
            Siluanov - Serdyukov, Nesterenko - Vasiliev ...

            Question: ... - laughing Shoigu ???
        4. Alexander Tot
          Alexander Tot 29 October 2015 09: 31 New
          +8
          I saw more than one high school graduate - many with a fair and only clear self-conceit, like children after school of early development.
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 11: 16 New
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Tot
            I saw more than one VShPeshnik - many with a fair and only conceivable conceit for them, like children after school early development.


            Dear Alexander, why HOW? And there is. In the early stages of the development of the child, one of the main reflexes is developing - grasping. Here they are and they worked out, to the detriment of the rest of the development. laughing

            Something like that, colleague. hi
            1. Alexander Tot
              Alexander Tot 29 October 2015 14: 30 New
              +3
              My daughter, the first thing she did when they still tried to swaddle her right away at birth, dragged some instrument from the table. Grasping but reflex. The value of what needs to be grabbed at first is greatly overestimated just at all higher schools. Sometimes it happens to be Ron Hubbart.
        5. Platonich
          Platonich 29 October 2015 13: 24 New
          +1
          And ... in general, two faces in any way on the great economists with such !!! orders do not look like!
        6. nazar_0753
          nazar_0753 30 October 2015 00: 52 New
          +1
          Quote: Penetrator

          And Nesterenko is like a man in a wig laughing

          This is Borya Moses
        7. perm23
          perm23 30 October 2015 10: 22 New
          0
          Only ktozh will let this chief accountant go there.
        8. romaniron
          romaniron 30 October 2015 11: 34 New
          0
          Well, it remains only to ask Lenka Vasiliev, to get the country out of the crisis !!!! I think she can !!!
        9. bondarencko
          bondarencko 31 October 2015 04: 15 New
          0
          And this is correct (M.S. Gorbachev). The late V.S. Chernomyrdin promised to get rid of the Ministry of Taxes and Duties in the government, but it turned out "as always" (V.S. Chernomyrdin). But if, before recruiting employees, they would give them, as tests, a small candle factory, with the task of bringing them to world leaders and appointing them to their posts, I think there was no need for a reserve fund would be. I note that Lyubov Kobaidze (a delegate to the Congress of Soviets of the USSR, director of a factory in Yaroslavl) was right, what kind of host of WUNDERKINDOV is Moscow !?
        10. go21zd45few
          go21zd45few 31 October 2015 17: 01 New
          0
          Yes, Russia has not become scarce with talents, there are no talented and intelligent people who support Russia for a lot, and there is no match for these scumbags working for the collapse of Russia.
          These are bugs sucked on the body of Russia and sucking blood. Bedbugs are burned out or destroyed by dust.
      2. Private IITR
        Private IITR 29 October 2015 06: 45 New
        +3
        Yes, they just whine, Putin’s cunning plan. At an oil price of 100 candy wrappers, for the same candy wrapper they gave 30 rubles, now at a price of 50 candy wrappers, they give 60 rubles for it, i.e. the state in ruble terms has not lost anything. And they lived like that in 2000, when oil cost 15 candy wrappers.
        1. Hon
          Hon 29 October 2015 08: 42 New
          +9
          Quote: Private ICU
          Yes, they just whine, Putin’s cunning plan. At an oil price of 100 candy wrappers, for the same candy wrapper they gave 30 rubles, now at a price of 50 candy wrappers, they give 60 rubles for it, i.e. the state in ruble terms has not lost anything. And they lived like that in 2000, when oil cost 15 candy wrappers.

          If the state spent only domestically and only rubles, then nothing has been lost, but this is not so, and we are losing a lot.
          just look at the prices in stores, they have even grown on domestic goods. add to this a decline in production, reductions have begun. What is the budget deficit growing?
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 29 October 2015 12: 47 New
            +7
            Quote: Hon
            just look at the prices in the stores,

            Speaking of prices. Just imagine, two stores, in one klbasa 200r., And in the other 600 - where to buy? There is a choice, but life is not so simple. There is such an office in Moscow that carries radio and television to your homes. There are many enterprises throughout the country that are run by this office and without whose permission they cannot even sneeze. And there is, for example, in the city of Saratov, a trading company that supplies spare parts. You can buy them elsewhere, 2 to 3 times cheaper, but the pointing finger from Moscow points to Saratov. Now the question is, what is the relationship between them and where does the money that we overpay go? And so throughout the country, I think almost everyone has encountered such an "economy", in one form or another. hi
            1. Vladimir 1964
              Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 13: 28 New
              +7
              Quote: Bayonet
              And so throughout the country, I think almost everyone has encountered such an "economy", in one form or another.

              In the Krasnodar Territory, Dear Alexander, the pipes for supplying gas to the consumer (for house-building, not mains) at the Gazprom enterprise are twice as expensive as similar pipes at the metal base, but the connection conditions are such that you can only use the pipe purchased from gas specialists. The difference is big, if the trunk does not go along its section, then it is tens of thousands.

              Something like this, colleague. hi
              1. Bayonet
                Bayonet 29 October 2015 20: 33 New
                0
                Something like this, colleague. hi[/ Quote]
                Yeah! Perhaps no less than half of all funds are simply stolen and there is no end in sight. What capitalism is there that they love to blame for all sins, it’s just Russian lawlessness! request
                1. Uncle Joe
                  Uncle Joe 29 October 2015 22: 08 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Bayonet
                  What is capitalism
                  The usual, state-monopoly, with its characteristic corruption component.
                2. afdjhbn67
                  afdjhbn67 30 October 2015 01: 39 New
                  0
                  Quote: Bayonet
                  What is capitalism

                  Give capitalism with a human face ..
        2. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 08: 57 New
          +9
          Quote: Private ICU
          Yes, they just whine, Putin’s cunning plan. At an oil price of 100 candy wrappers, for the same candy wrapper they gave 30 rubles, now at a price of 50 candy wrappers, they give 60 rubles for it, i.e. the state in ruble terms has not lost anything. And they lived like that in 2000, when oil cost 15 candy wrappers.


          Over 15 years, Dear Dmitry, the number of officials has grown, their children have grown, and their requests (officials) have grown. As they say, the appetite comes with eating, especially in the state trough.

          Something like that, colleague. hi
        3. andj61
          andj61 29 October 2015 09: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: Private ICU
          Yes, they just whine, Putin’s cunning plan. At an oil price of 100 candy wrappers, for the same candy wrapper they gave 30 rubles, now at a price of 50 candy wrappers, they give 60 rubles for it, i.e. the state in ruble terms has not lost anything. And they lived like that in 2000, when oil cost 15 candy wrappers.

          That's right - they get as many rubles from oil as before. But taxes sharply sagged, there is less work, they are buying less, the decline in production, therefore, less revenue to the budget.
        4. anip
          anip 29 October 2015 12: 48 New
          +7
          Quote: Private ICU
          those. the state in ruble terms has not lost anything.

          Yeah, it is. But the people lost because all prices rose after the dollar.

          Quote: Private ICU
          And they lived like that in 2000, when oil cost 15 candy wrappers.

          And they lived somehow in 1800, when oil was not sold at all.
        5. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 29 October 2015 22: 03 New
          +3
          Quote: Private ICU
          those. the state has lost nothing in ruble terms
          The state, represented by federal officials equivalent to federal officials of deputies, the chairman of the government and the president, whom Vladimir Vladimirovich raised total salaries 2013 times in 2014 and 2.5, not only lost nothing, but also won, as in As a result of the devaluation of the ruble, the real salaries of federal officials, equated to federal officials of deputies, the chairman of the government and the president grew by 50% compared to the level of 2013.

          This is certainly a great achievement - very good.
      3. Hon
        Hon 29 October 2015 08: 36 New
        +9
        Quote: Finches
        I think that the sooner the "economic geeks" leave their portfolios, the more chances Russia has to stay afloat!

        So no chance.
      4. Bayonet
        Bayonet 29 October 2015 08: 42 New
        +5
        Quote: Finches
        It’s true where to find replacements - only graduates of the Higher School of Economics — an incubator of liberalism that regularly stamped specialists in love with the Western economic model for years — dug around.

        As where ??? Of course, on the "Military Review"! Here, after all, the best specialists in all areas of knowledge! hi
        1. Finches
          Finches 29 October 2015 09: 08 New
          11
          It’s wonderful that there are so many diversified and gifted participants at VO! This undoubtedly puts the site in the category of serious analytical products, of which there are actually not many in the vast world of trash - the Internet! laughing

          And if without a share of sarcasm, then it is entirely possible that under one of the nicknames there is an intelligent doctor of economic sciences who will give odds to Sluyanov in macroeconomics!

          In any case, the main thing is that the site is interesting and fascinating, with its, sometimes, very informative diologists! Do you disagree? hi
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 29 October 2015 10: 00 New
            +2
            The VO site would be even more interesting if new world and our developments in the field of medicine, mechanical engineering, space and other areas were published here.
            1. Felix1
              Felix1 29 October 2015 10: 40 New
              0
              medical review
              1. Felix1
                Felix1 29 October 2015 11: 28 New
                0
                or culinary review.
            2. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 30 October 2015 01: 42 New
              +1
              Quote: Vadim237
              The VO site would be even more interesting if new world and our developments in the field of medicine, mechanical engineering, space and other areas were published here.

              And another section - dating, sale and purchase of cars, real estate? wassat
          2. anip
            anip 29 October 2015 12: 50 New
            +9
            Quote: Finches
            And if without a share of sarcasm, then it is entirely possible that under one of the nicknames there is an intelligent doctor of economic sciences who will give odds to Sluyanov in macroeconomics!

            And if absolutely without sarcasm, then more sensible and logical thoughts are often expressed here than from those in power.
      5. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 29 October 2015 08: 45 New
        +5
        Uh, no ...! This is a regular, but he doesn’t touch such GDP .. His people .. they don’t blame for power, they feed themselves, they work out the order .. Only a change in the SYSTEM will leave a portfolio of these types ..
        Quote: Finches
        I think that the faster the “economic geeks” leave their portfolios, the greater the chance for Russia to stay afloat! True, where to find replacements - there were only graduates of the HSE - an incubator of liberalism who regularly stamped specialists in love with the Western economic model for years.
        1. ermalina
          ermalina 29 October 2015 21: 44 New
          +1
          So what to do? Can anyone at least say ???
      6. Nick
        Nick 29 October 2015 12: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        I think that the faster the “economic geeks” leave their portfolios, the greater the chance for Russia to stay afloat! True, where to find replacements - there were only graduates of the HSE - an incubator of liberalism who regularly stamped specialists in love with the Western economic model for years.

        Glazyev is quite suitable
      7. perm23
        perm23 30 October 2015 10: 21 New
        +2
        That's for sure. This HSE is the main enemy. They have one look there.
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        1. complete zero
          complete zero 30 October 2015 16: 45 New
          +1
          it’s possible to arrange (it’s high time) that’s only Putin, well, Stalin didn’t stand nearby
      9. I am human
        I am human 31 October 2015 17: 51 New
        0
        They will not leave their portfolios until they have devoured the entire Reserve Fund, forwarding it to their accounts!
    2. svp67
      svp67 29 October 2015 06: 20 New
      +6
      Quote: Vladimir
      Well, if this office remains in power, this may not be the case.

      I'm afraid that in this case "nothing can be" ...
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 29 October 2015 06: 46 New
        19
        And I said a long time ago that they, headed by Dimon, should be sent to the development of the Siberian and circumpolar expanses of the Motherland, and even then they will have to be watched so that they do not do anything from natural stupidity and short-sightedness.
        1. Hon
          Hon 29 October 2015 08: 44 New
          +9
          Quote: inkass_98
          And I said a long time ago that they, headed by Dimon, should be sent to the development of the Siberian and circumpolar expanses of the Motherland, and even then they will have to be watched so that they do not do anything from natural stupidity and short-sightedness.

          Dimon will remain in his place, do not forget, Putin does not give up. But Dimon is his own, and the whole team is his own.
        2. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 29 October 2015 22: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: inkass_98
          And I said a long time ago that they, led by Dimon, should be sent to the development of the Siberian and circumpolar expanses of the Motherland
          Oh well...

          13.10.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX Russian President Vladimir Putin praised the government and the Central Bank for acting in times of crisis. “I allow myself to say kind words to the government of the Russian Federation, the Central Bank. Despite all the difficulties and difficulties that the Russian economy has encountered, our economic management team has demonstrated a high level of responsibility, consistency and consistently achieved results, ”Mr. Putin quoted Interfax from the VTB Capital forum“ Russia is Calling! ” .
          http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2831584

          14.10.2015/20151014/1301970265 Russian President Vladimir Putin awarded Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev the Order of Merit to the Fatherland, I degree, for his great contribution to the socio-economic development of the Russian Federation, a corresponding decree was published on the official Internet portal of legal information on Wednesday. http://ria.ru/society/XNUMX/XNUMX.html
    3. vyinemeynen
      vyinemeynen 29 October 2015 06: 44 New
      +2
      TO WHOM AN INTERESTING TOPIC RECOMMEND
      http://politrussia.com/ekonomika/budushchee-rossiyskoy-ekonomiki-414/
    4. atalef
      atalef 29 October 2015 07: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: Vladimir
      Well, if this office remains in power, this may not be the case.

      Does this cabinet solve anything at all?
      Who can even consider the economy without a break as previous years (and the decisions of previous cabinet mins) and politics?
      I would put Glazyev as the Minister of Economics or the Ministry of Economic Development, so that I would understand once and for all.
      There are no miracles or miraculous solutions.
      The whole economy was sitting on oil and gas. Prices have fallen - there is no money.
      And that's why the fat years spent on what would
      1. Letting hundreds of billions into the dust - Olympics. Eurovision (well, the World Cup)
      2. Skolkovo - which is good, but turned into a dough cut
      3. Nobody needs gas pipeline projects - (I mean those branches that were assigned solely to punish someone)
      4. Excessively inflated military budget.
      5. Political decisions to the detriment of the economy
      6 Well, Ukraine is not worth remembering, and so everyone understands
      7 Tell and believe in your own mantras that shale oil and gas is bullshit.
      And of course, an unprincipled belief that someone can be put on their knees with oil and gas and money will never run out, and therefore --- why develop your own production, medicine, and technology.
      You can buy everything - and the West will pay us for it. Because they are blue and will always crawl on their knees in front of the right pansans.
      Leave Siluanov and Co. - do not shoot the pianist - he does not know how better, and his instrument is without half strings and completely upset.
      Yes, and what does he decide?
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 29 October 2015 07: 21 New
        +7
        I agree with you in many respects. I do not agree with projects for the production of shale oil and shale gas. These projects are very dangerous and harmful, at least at the current level. No one can predict what hydraulic fracturing and injection of harmful reagents into these fractures can lead to. At least the planet will definitely be left without drinking water.
        1. atalef
          atalef 29 October 2015 07: 54 New
          0
          Quote: Amurets
          I do not agree with projects for the production of shale oil and shale gas. These projects are very dangerous and harmful, at least at the current level.

          Let's separate the flies from the cutlets.
          Talked about what? The fact that the shale is NOT VALID, is now said to be harmful to the environment.
          do you feel the difference?
          if the project is not cost-effective - it is definitely not a tenant, if it is cost-effective, then you can deal with all the rest Treatment facilities. new technologies, etc.
          If you have money, these problems can be solved. and when is the money? With profitability - and it is
          Quote: Amurets
          . No one can predict what hydraulic fracturing and the injection of harmful reagents into these fractures can lead to. At least the planet will definitely be left without drinking water.


          On the one hand, you say - no one knows, and then say - you’ll definitely be left without water.
          I’m a little bit aware of both the Western approach and the standards of 9 — somehow I have no doubt that things are not so scary — as they say in the Russian press.
          And at worst. like shale oil production in the states. will deprive drinking water of the same Europe.
          By the way (on note 0, type (Russia’s shale projects) and accidentally discover that in Russia 9 in particular, Lukoil 0 renders them the same.
          So note.
          1. wild
            wild 29 October 2015 08: 20 New
            +5
            Shale was mined during the Soviet Union for the sake of sports interest. But since conventional mining cheaper stopped mining. Do not manipulate.
            1. atalef
              atalef 29 October 2015 08: 49 New
              -3
              Quote: wild
              Shale was mined during the Soviet Union for the sake of sports interest. But since conventional mining cheaper stopped mining. Do not manipulate.

              I do not understand what is the manipulation?
              1. dauria
                dauria 29 October 2015 10: 25 New
                0
                I do not understand what is the manipulation?


                In that, speaking of "cost-effective", you did not indicate at what price this oil-gas. smile
                There are synthetic hydrocarbons, someday and they can become profitable (if nothing else comes up)
                But about "do not shoot the pianist" everything is for sure, for this a plus.
                1. atalef
                  atalef 29 October 2015 16: 40 New
                  0
                  Quote: dauria
                  In that, speaking of “cost-effective”, you did not indicate at what price this gas-oil

                  it is still profitable and will remain up to 36 bucks a barrel - did that suit you?

                  Quote: dauria
                  There are synthetic hydrocarbons, someday and they can become profitable (if nothing else comes up)

                  Someday, apple trees will bloom on Mars. let's talk about real things
                2. atalef
                  atalef 29 October 2015 16: 40 New
                  0
                  Quote: dauria
                  In that, speaking of “cost-effective”, you did not indicate at what price this gas-oil

                  it is still profitable and will remain up to 36 bucks a barrel - did that suit you?

                  Quote: dauria
                  There are synthetic hydrocarbons, someday and they can become profitable (if nothing else comes up)

                  Someday, apple trees will bloom on Mars. let's talk about real things
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            2. Bayonet
              Bayonet 29 October 2015 08: 52 New
              0
              Quote: wild
              Shale was mined during the USSR for sporting interest

              laughing laughing request this is interesting, something new in the economy!
              1. Amurets
                Amurets 29 October 2015 09: 14 New
                +2
                This refers to pilot production and processing, as well as the economic feasibility of the project.
                1. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 29 October 2015 11: 07 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Amurets
                  This refers to pilot-industrial mining and processing

                  This is understandable, but what is the wording “for the sake of sports interest” smile
                  1. Amurets
                    Amurets 29 October 2015 11: 18 New
                    0
                    Not many understand this wording, and therefore began to minus.
            3. andj61
              andj61 29 October 2015 09: 47 New
              +4
              Quote: wild
              Shale was mined during the Soviet Union for the sake of sports interest. But since conventional mining cheaper stopped mining. Do not manipulate.

              For example, oil shales were mined in Estonia, but they were burned in power plants - increased ash content compared to coal, but it is quite cost-effective. Oil was not extracted from shale, but from coal - it was. And a lot of things from coal - coal chemistry under the USSR was developed very much. Now I can not hear about it.
          2. Amurets
            Amurets 29 October 2015 08: 32 New
            +1
            Let’s not talk about the economic component. In this regard, everything is changeable, today it’s expensive and tomorrow it’s cheap. I don’t rely on the data of the Russian press. So what I put out is not only the forecasts and studies of Russian scientists, but also the data of American scientists. Now look at the expected deposits shale oil and gas and you will understand why this Europe may be left without water sources. But you will not deny that the basis of the conflict in Donbass is the same oil and gas. Do not take my word for it, look at the maps of mineral deposits of Ukraine. And only the war in Donbass and the economic policies of Ukraine forced Chevron and Dutch Shell to abandon the development of these fields. Dutch Shell announced yesterday that they were shutting down. Other participants in the project left earlier. I hope the above arguments suit you. Rest! No comment.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 29 October 2015 10: 06 New
              -1
              The main problem of our budget is that not everyone in our country pays taxes, someone tricks up underestimating profits, someone works in the dark, if everyone paid correctly, then now our budget was not 13 and a half trillion rubles, but several times more .
            2. atalef
              atalef 29 October 2015 16: 43 New
              -1
              Quote: Amurets
              You will not deny that the basis of the conflict in the Donbass are the same oil and gas

              I don’t, but others ... only the salvation of the Russian world

              Quote: Amurets
              And only the war in the Donbass and the economic policy of Ukraine forced Chevron and Dutch Shell to abandon the development of these deposits.

              today they refused - tomorrow agreed - the fossils in the Donbass region will not disappear from the decision of a company - everything has its time
            3. atalef
              atalef 29 October 2015 16: 43 New
              +1
              Quote: Amurets
              You will not deny that the basis of the conflict in the Donbass are the same oil and gas

              I don’t, but others ... only the salvation of the Russian world

              Quote: Amurets
              And only the war in the Donbass and the economic policy of Ukraine forced Chevron and Dutch Shell to abandon the development of these deposits.

              today they refused - tomorrow agreed - the fossils in the Donbass region will not disappear from the decision of a company - everything has its time
              1. Amurets
                Amurets 30 October 2015 12: 09 New
                0
                I already wrote about this above, that no one knows what will happen next with oil production and energy. You understand that neither we nor you need a conflict in Syria. And you will agree that the fall in oil prices hit not only shale projects, but also on biofuel projects.
                1. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 12: 55 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Amurets
                  but also on biofuel projects.

                  Is it ala rapeseed oil? So this is idiocy, just like drowning food. fool
                2. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 12: 55 New
                  0
                  Quote: Amurets
                  but also on biofuel projects.

                  Is it ala rapeseed oil? So this is idiocy, just like drowning food. fool
          3. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 08: 49 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            then you can handle all the rest.

            It is impossible. Fill Aral with water? That's it. Mankind is WRONG FROM MIND !!!
            1. andj61
              andj61 29 October 2015 10: 01 New
              +3
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Quote: atalef
              then you can handle all the rest.

              It is impossible. Fill Aral with water? That's it. Mankind is WRONG FROM MIND !!!

              It is quite possible to fill the Aral with water, and to supply Central Asia with water. Even less water will enter the Tyumen swamps. But who will pay for it? Russia will not have any benefit from this, Kazakhstan will not benefit much either, and Central Asia will not pull it financially, and it will be difficult to agree upon it. request hi
              1. sa-ag
                sa-ag 29 October 2015 12: 10 New
                +1
                Quote: andj61
                It is entirely possible to fill the Aral with water

                The Northern Aral was completely filled, the surpluses are periodically dumped into the South, they wanted to do the same with the South, however, they faced the human factor in the form of Uzbek officials, therefore they left this venture
                1. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 18: 31 New
                  0
                  Do not pour. The Amu Darya and Syr Darya have a constant flow rate, which used to compensate for evaporation and was balanced. Today the water area of ​​the Northern Aral is a small fraction of the entire water area.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 29 October 2015 19: 16 New
                    +1
                    Quote: VseDoFeNi
                    Do not pour. The Amu Darya and Syr Darya have a constant flow rate, which used to compensate for evaporation and was balanced. Today the water area of ​​the Northern Aral is a small fraction of the entire water area.

                    Remember one thing, you can do everything - it only depends on your willingness to spend the required amount of money on this.
                    Say you can’t get warm with bills - free.
                    The question is price.
                    1. VseDoFeNi
                      VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 19: 35 New
                      +2
                      Quote: atalef
                      Remember one thing, you can do everything

                      Yes, I have not forgotten the turn of Siberian rivers. smile
                      And remember one thing, in a person, in a broad sense, grief from the mind. And this mind takes us very far from common sense.

                      Quote: atalef
                      The question is price.

                      “Economists say that there is completely cut down the forest, sell and put money in the bank, then you can get 6-7%. If you cut down the forest and invest the proceeds in the economy of Malaysia or Papua New Guinea, you can get 30-40%. Nobody cares about preserving the forest, we cut it down and invest money in something. When the forests are over, take up the fish. When the fish is over, we will invest money in computers. Money is growing faster than anything else in this world. In fact, economics is a brain damage in our world. "The economy is so far from the real world that it entails its destruction."
                      1. atalef
                        atalef 29 October 2015 20: 46 New
                        -3
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        yes, I have not forgotten the turn of Siberian rivers.

                        what is not brought to the end does not mean that it’s impossible
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        And remember one thing, in a person, in a broad sense, grief from the mind.

                        You know better, I don’t think so
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        And this mind takes us very far from common sense.

                        Maybe your mind is separate from common sense, I don’t have
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        “Economists say that there is completely cut down the forest, sell and put money in the bank, then you can get 6-7%

                        Not understood ?
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        If you cut down the forest and invest the money in the economy of Malaysia or Papua New Guinea, you can get 30-40%

                        What nonsense at all?
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        Nobody cares about preserving the forest, cut it down and invest money in something

                        WHY NOT TO CARE? FOR CORRECT FOREST USE - EVERYTHING WILL BE GOOD
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        When the forests are over, take up the fish. When the fish is over, we will invest money in computers. Money grows faster than anything else in this world.

                        what a mess in my head belay
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        In fact, economics is a brain damage in our world. "The economy is so far from the real world that it entails its destruction."

                        Peace to you laughing
                      2. VseDoFeNi
                        VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 21: 18 New
                        0
                        Quote: atalef
                        what is not brought to the end does not mean that it’s impossible

                        I don’t argue with that.

                        Quote: atalef
                        Maybe your mind is separate from common sense, I don’t have

                        Comrade Courvoisier says the opposite. wink

                        Quote: atalef
                        what a mess in belay’s head

                        Earth is a spaceship equipped with life support systems for it, the ship, its inhabitants. And man destroys these life support systems with increasing speed.
                        This is just a fact. Forests are cut down for the sake of semi-pornographic playboys, GQ and other maxims. Just do not count.
                        Since the 70s, they have been depleted in the North Sea by 80%.
                      3. atalef
                        atalef 30 October 2015 06: 35 New
                        -1
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        Comrade Courvoisier says the opposite.

                        Corvoisier cannot speak laughing
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        Earth is a spaceship equipped with life support systems for it, the ship, its inhabitants. And man destroys these life support systems with increasing speed.
                        This is just a fact. Forests are cut down for the sake of semi-pornographic playboys, GQ and other maxims. Just do not count.

                        Comrade, let's get back to the topic, otherwise we’ll listen to you, the Earth will die before the stabilization fund is depleted. The article seems to be about it.
                      4. VseDoFeNi
                        VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 07: 29 New
                        0
                        Quote: atalef
                        Corvoisier cannot speak

                        Even as it can. Look, the scratches on the watch told Sherlock Holmes a lot about their owner, and now Orvoisie cries out about his sinks.

                        Quote: atalef
                        stab.fond-- article seems to be about it.

                        An article, an ordinary libel, written with the aim of causing dissatisfaction of the Russian people with the actions of the authorities.
                      5. atalef
                        atalef 30 October 2015 10: 10 New
                        +1
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        Even as it can. Look, the scratches on the watch told Sherlock Holmes a lot about their owner, and now Orvoisie cries out about his sinks.

                        crying
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        An article, an ordinary libel, written with the aim of causing dissatisfaction of the Russian people with the actions of the authorities.

                        You have any article doubting the actions of the authorities - libel
                        Alexander, you are not working at Uralvagonzavod and your deflection is unlikely to be noticed.
                        wink
                      6. VseDoFeNi
                        VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 18: 26 New
                        -2
                        Quote: atalef
                        You have any article doubting the actions of the authorities - libel

                        It was under this power that the people in Russia began to live richly.
                        Previously, salt, sugar and matches were bought up during crises, but now cars, refrigerators and plasma panels have been bought up. So it goes.
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    5. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 18: 26 New
      0
      Quote: andj61
      .More and less water will enter the Tyumen swamps. But who will pay for it?

      Or maybe 500 megatons at once on Novaya Zemlya and not be tormented? request
  • Kindof
    Kindof 29 October 2015 09: 46 New
    +5
    Finally mixed cutlets with flies ..
    You did not twist the thimbles in the Union?
    1. Shale mining is harmful to the environment
    2. Minimizing environmental damage requires additional costs for "treatment facilities, new technologies, etc.," as you say
    3. There are more costs, the same income = low profitability
    1. atalef
      atalef 29 October 2015 16: 49 New
      0
      Quote: Kindof
      1. Shale mining is harmful to the environment 2. Minimizing environmental damage requires additional costs for "treatment facilities, new technologies, etc.," as you say3. More expenses, the same income = low profitability

      Do you know these expenses 7
      I tell you again, knowing Western standards, I’m sure that they think about ecology no less than in Russia.

      Quote: Saber
      Do not feel. if, together with oil production, you have to carry out expensive work to restore the ecosystem, then this is included in the cost

      I tell you again. even if we suppose 9 which is funny initially), that the Americans wanted to poison themselves and the next generations of their children and grandchildren.
      How will this help you in the current economic situation?
      What is the difference - is oil shale good for Amer from an environmental point of view or not?
      it certainly will not affect the Russian ecosystem, but economically. What can you oppose?
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 18: 36 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        knowing Western standards, I am sure that they think about ecology no less than in Russia.

        And GMO, according to Monsanto, of course does not harm us?
        But injection into the soil of chyme during the hydraulic fracturing, of course, does not pollute the environment?

        Quote: atalef
        it’s definitely not going to affect the Russian ecosystem,

        Everything in the world is interconnected. We live on one planet.
        1. atalef
          atalef 29 October 2015 19: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          And GMO, according to Monsanto, of course does not harm us?

          I don’t know, listen to Onishchenko, so that it just doesn’t harm us - yes, parsley
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          But injection into the soil of chyme during the hydraulic fracturing, of course, does not pollute the environment?

          I don’t know the same thing, I’m not competent to give my opinion.
          I take it simply and am based on one thing. The general standards of the country and I know perfectly well that in the West they are much higher with regard to medicines, health and environmental protection (as well as their implementation) than in Russia and less dependent on the vagaries and desires of local officials and propaganda.
          The rest is neither you nor I know and do not understand.
          But being in many countries both in Europe and the USA and Canada, I’ll tell you that the environmental situation there is at least no worse than in Russia wink - I think we have no disagreements with this?
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          Everything in the world is interconnected. We live on one planet.

          Well, start from China, like the closest neighbor.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 20: 02 New
            -3
            Quote: atalef
            I don’t know, listen to Onishchenko, so that it just doesn’t harm us - yes, parsley

            Well, if you don’t believe about alcohol ... fool
            I even learned specifically - Courvoisier. laughing

            Quote: atalef
            The general standards of the country and I know perfectly well that in the West they are much higher with regard to medicines, health and environmental protection (as well as their implementation) than in Russia and less dependent on the vagaries and desires of local officials and propaganda.

            Medicine has not returned health to anyone. Although it sometimes helps not to glue fins. But it is medicine that brings people to this.
            In general, read Colin Campbell's China Study.

            And here CNN materialchik published.
            Quote: WHO called processed meat a source of cancer


            The World Health Organization (WHO) has compared the health risks associated with eating processed meats (in particular sausages and sausages) with the dangers posed by the use of asbestos. This was reported on the CNN website.

            According to experts from the WHO International Agency for Research on Cancer, eating processed meat significantly increases your risk of getting bowel cancer. Sausages and sausages, which are as dangerous as tobacco, asbestos and diesel exhausts, pose the greatest threat in this regard.

            WHO stated that it has identified reliable evidence of the association of sausages and sausages with the onset of cancer. Experts also noted that the risk of developing intestinal cancer in humans increases with the consumption of processed meat.

            According to the Federal State Statistics Service, from January to May 2015, the total agricultural production of meat (pork, beef, poultry, lamb and goat meat) in Russia amounted to more than 2,7 million tons in slaughter weight (or more than 18 kilograms per person).


            And the other day I asked you to tell your daughter that the MDGs are our everything.
            1. atalef
              atalef 29 October 2015 20: 14 New
              +1
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Well, if you don’t believe about alcohol ..

              What ? What is it harmful? I think your question will cause a smile for any adequate person.
              Can specify what alcohol (as a class of chemical compounds)
              Wine Vodka, Cognac. Vmski, Moonshine. Ethyl alcohol, etc.
              As the amount and rate of reception
              In general, I’ll tell you, people who do not drink alcohol are either former drunks or not quite adequate.
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              I even learned specifically - Courvoisier.

              I recommend - wonderful cognac
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Medicine has not returned health to anyone.

              Well, in general, I knowingly doubted your adequacy, sorry.
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Although it sometimes helps not to glue fins. But it is medicine that brings people to this.

              And that is why in some countries of Africa (where it is absent a priori), people live up to 120, and go to the next world solely from reluctance to live to 200 laughing
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              In general, read Colin Campbell's China Study.

              Now everyone thinks of himself as a writer and expert.
              I somehow trust what I see around me and see that in countries with developed medicine they live longer and better than vice versa

              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              And the other day I asked you to tell your daughter that the MDG is our everything

              And what is the MDGs? belay Why is this all yours and what kind of relationship with my daughter? belay
              1. Hello
                Hello 29 October 2015 20: 21 New
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                What ? What is it harmful? I think your question will cause a smile for any adequate person.

                "Who am I not to drink" wink Greetings Atalef, how not to drink in good company with friends repeat
      2. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 18: 36 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        knowing Western standards, I am sure that they think about ecology no less than in Russia.

        And GMO, according to Monsanto, of course does not harm us?
        But injection into the soil of chyme during the hydraulic fracturing, of course, does not pollute the environment?
        Quote: atalef
        it’s definitely not going to affect the Russian ecosystem,
      3. Turkir
        Turkir 30 October 2015 09: 10 New
        +1
        I tell you again, knowing Western standards, I’m sure that they think about ecology no less than in Russia.
        I tell you again. even if we suppose 9 which is funny initially), that the Americans wanted to poison themselves and the next generations of their children and grandchildren.

        Strange things, write, she is bo. Is it about a country that produces 20% of the garbage relative to the rest of the world?
        And then, we are talking not only about the United States, but about those mistakes resulting from the limited knowledge of all of humanity. Examples are the launch of bacteria devouring oil in the Gulf of Mexico, deforestation in the Amazon, GMOs, etc. Where there is profit, and also very large (as you politely write profitability), there is no longer reason.
        It seems to me that science cannot be turned into a new religion.
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 09: 58 New
          0
          Quote: Turkir
          Where there is profit, and also very large (as you politely write profitability), there is no longer reason.
          It seems to me that science cannot be turned into a new religion.

          He is not able to understand.
        2. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 09: 58 New
          -1
          Quote: Turkir
          Where there is profit, and also very large (as you politely write profitability), there is no longer reason.
          It seems to me that science cannot be turned into a new religion.

          He is not able to understand.
        3. atalef
          atalef 30 October 2015 10: 18 New
          -1
          Quote: Turkir
          Strange things, write, she is bo. Is it about a country that produces 20% of the garbage relative to the rest of the world?

          The conversation may not be about the amount of garbage produced, but about the degree of its processing, surveillance of burial grounds and burial.
          Quote: Turkir
          And then, it’s not just about the United States, but about those mistakes resulting from the limited knowledge of all of humanity


          conversation is nothing, let's somehow we will not leave the topic of the article
          Quote: Turkir
          It seems to me that science cannot be turned into a new religion.


          OK, what about the stabilization fund, in your opinion?
  • saber
    saber 29 October 2015 10: 02 New
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Let's separate the flies from the cutlets.
    Talked about what? The fact that the shale is NOT VALID, is now said to be harmful to the environment.
    do you feel the difference?

    Do not feel. if, together with oil production, you have to carry out expensive work to restore the ecosystem, then this is included in the cost. Well, you can certainly get in the colonies, such as Ukraine
  • Afinogen
    Afinogen 29 October 2015 10: 56 New
    -2
    Quote: atalef
    somehow I have no doubt that everything is not so scary - as they say in the Russian press.


    But in the American press this will not be allowed to be painted, there is "freedom of speech", dermocracy, the power of capital. There, those who are protesting against the destruction of nature, who have felt all the consequences of the shale revolution, are wringing their hands in a jail.
    I’ll tell you one thing that we don’t need this shale crap, you don’t need to ruin nature, mother, and if you like it, get it from you in Israel.


  • Hon
    Hon 29 October 2015 08: 55 New
    0
    Quote: atalef
    3. Nobody needs gas pipeline projects - (I mean those branches that were assigned solely to punish someone)

    As for those who do not need anyone, this is an attempt to find ways to bypass device-mounted transformers, which may not be very successful, although as a fallback, it has not lost its relevance.
    Quote: atalef
    Excessively inflated military budget.

    What's in it bloated? the budget is not very big. in addition, purchases of new weapons stimulate production, create jobs and provide the military-industrial complex with funds for further development, this is important given that Russia is a major exporter of weapons.

    Slate is not really bullshit, but the shale revolution turned out to be a myth, it did not drop the price of oil. What kind of difference is shale or not, when the production of conventional oil increased?
  • saber
    saber 29 October 2015 10: 00 New
    -1
    Quote: atalef
    1. Letting hundreds of billions into the dust - Olympics. Eurovision (well, the World Cup)

    "blowing dust in the eyes" resulted in the fact that there are excellent roads for Sochi from Nizhny Novgorod and the Sochi ski resorts are crammed with vacationers. not to mention such trifles as hundreds of thousands of boys and girls who chose sport instead of a computer.
    Quote: atalef
    3. Nobody needs gas pipeline projects - (I mean those branches that were assigned solely to punish someone

    That is, in Europe it is diversification, but in Russia, punishment?
    Quote: atalef
    4. Excessively inflated military budget.

    I bow to you from the employee of the military-industrial complex! Are you aware that most of the money goes to modernize factories, purchase equipment, and not to produce tanks and missiles? That is, oil money turns into modern plants and factories, which is precisely the development of the real sector of the economy
    Quote: atalef
    5. Political decisions to the detriment of the economy

    Do you know how to play for long?
    Quote: atalef
    6 Well, Ukraine is not worth remembering, and so everyone understands

    Is there a better solution?
    Quote: atalef
    7 Tell and believe in your own mantras that shale oil and gas is bullshit

    Well, something so far has shown that the truth is bullshit. Can Shell leave from Ukraine?
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 29 October 2015 12: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: Saber
      that's really bullshit

      What bullshit is the power of Ukraine well, because of it, projects were curtailed
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 18: 45 New
        0
        Quote: sa-ag
        What bullshit is the power of Ukraine well, because of it, projects were curtailed

        And the prices have fallen strongly and nothing to do with?
  • Robinzon57
    Robinzon57 29 October 2015 13: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    atalef

    You talk beautifully! Just do not mix kosher with flies. Something I do not see a reduction in military spending in Israel, surrender to the Arabs. For Russia, a concession to mattresses is equivalent to a concession from Israel to the Arabs. Both for you and for us, the military expenses of the “sacred cow” of fools in Russia have greatly diminished since the 90s. As for Ukraine - why not give way to Jerusalem first to Israel, excuse me? But I agree with the rest, but these are the consequences of the same 90s. Sincerely, your “padded jacket”. hi
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 29 October 2015 21: 00 New
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    4. Excessively inflated military budget.

    However, you turned it down. How many “friends” partners do we have? And what is the budget of our main "friend" -USA? Do you want, do not want, but "the powder in the flasks should be kept dry." Sobering up, you know "friends." Well, do not you know.
  • Aksakal_07
    Aksakal_07 29 October 2015 08: 20 New
    -2
    The recipe for improving the Russian economy has long been known: Sergei Glazyev voiced it more than once, there were other ideas close to his thesis. The only question is when Putin will give the go-ahead to go on a new economic footing. If we begin the transition to a new economic structure without careful preparation, then the entire “fifth column” will break over a hill with stolen trillions and could bring down the entire economy.
    1. anip
      anip 29 October 2015 12: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: Aksakal_07
      The only question is when Putin will give the go-ahead to go on a new economic footing.

      When the cancer on the mountain whistles and then, after a rain on Thursday.
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 29 October 2015 18: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: Aksakal_07
      The only question is when Putin will give the go-ahead to go on a new economic footing.

      Public ownership of the means of production? :-)
  • kuz363
    kuz363 29 October 2015 20: 20 New
    +1
    Come on in the chain. The Russians elected the president and deputies of the Duma. The president selected the government and approved in the Duma. So, Russians must agree with this government!
    1. kamil_tt
      kamil_tt 30 October 2015 18: 10 New
      +1
      this scheme works only to a certain extent, then it’s impossible, because everyone except him is to blame ..
  • perm23
    perm23 30 October 2015 10: 20 New
    +1
    And that they don’t work like that. Nobody is responsible for anything there. They have already earned money. There are summer cottages. The salary is not bad. Well, get fired. And why are they afraid of something? No responsibility at all.
  • ultra
    ultra 30 October 2015 14: 10 New
    +1
    Do you have any doubts? Vaughn and Serdyukov has risen, so the "reformers" will work until they are completely victorious over our economy!
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  • SAXA.SHURA
    SAXA.SHURA 31 October 2015 14: 42 New
    0
    I wonder why Putin tolerates these freaks.
    1. kamil_tt
      kamil_tt 31 October 2015 15: 55 New
      0
      because he is "handsome")
  • Name
    Name 29 October 2015 06: 11 New
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    To reduce, if they were in the Cabinet of Ministers with their salaries to the minimum legal ... Yes, to take away everything that was acquired by "excessive" lies ... Maybe then they will start to work, and not howl and whine. Sneaked up to no.
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 07: 16 New
      -3
      Quote: name
      To reduce, if they were in the Cabinet of Ministers with their salaries to the minimum legal ... Yes, to take away everything that was acquired by "excessive" lies ... Maybe then they will start to work, and not howl and whine. Sneaked up to no.

      Do not start. They just scatter in this situation.

      And then, things in Russia are far from the worst. In the United States, oil prices (they set them) buried an entire industry in the form of shale r-Evolution. In addition, they reduced themselves to the most important export product - money. It is money, with the support of the American war machine, with which it, the money is perfectly secured, that the USA is imposing itself on the rest of the world.
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 09: 03 New
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        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Do not start. They just scatter in this situation.


        Dear Alexander, it may be so and let them scatter, as an option, there will be less harm.
        1. Tektor
          Tektor 29 October 2015 12: 09 New
          -2
          I do not understand why such a lingering moan is heard from the open spaces of the Internet media about the costs of monetary funds? It is necessary to rejoice that the savings that have been saved before will not rot in the barn, but will go to work, for the common good. All these reserves were set aside in order to help the budget, state employees, i.e. - to us. I consider the actions of the government to be highly responsible and competent. The most reliable reserves are our production and productive forces, agriculture and the vastness of the country. And of course - gold. It is possible that the dollar will soon begin to fluctuate greatly. In this case, I propose simply expanding the spread between buying and selling a Central Bank dollar, such as a central bank buying a dollar at 12 rubles (the exchange rate for gold in the dollar and the ruble), and selling at 60 (the rate that is beneficial to domestic production). Then the volatility of the dollar will be stopped.
          1. anip
            anip 29 October 2015 12: 58 New
            +6
            Quote: Tektor
            It is possible that the dollar will soon begin to fluctuate greatly.

            Duck hesitates. For a long time and much. There was once 8 rubles, then 24-27-32-34-38. Now over sixty hesitating. Now we wait when it is up to 90 podbleblet.
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 14: 08 New
              +4
              Quote: anip
              Now we wait when it is up to 90 podbleblet.

              Well, no, the rate cannot be higher than Putin’s rating - the liberal’s first commandment .. laughing
        2. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 13: 24 New
          0
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          Dear Alexander, it may be so and let them scatter, as an option, there will be less harm.

          Are you so sure that those who come instead of the current will be better? I'm not sure.
          And when considering the situation from different angles, the harm is not as obvious as it seems.
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      2. anip
        anip 29 October 2015 12: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        And then, things in Russia are far from the worst. In the United States, oil prices (they set them) buried an entire industry in the form of shale r-Evolution.

        Well, look how they live in the USA and how in the Russian Federation.
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 13: 26 New
          -4
          Quote: anip
          Well, look how they live in the USA and how in the Russian Federation.

          Americans are a totally sick country. Drowning in debt. They are rapidly losing influence in the world. We don’t need this.
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 14: 06 New
            +2
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Quote: anip
            Well, look how they live in the USA and how in the Russian Federation.

            Americans are a totally sick country. Drowning in debt. They are rapidly losing influence in the world. We don’t need this.

            And in general, they will soon explode Yellstone .. and the airship missile defense crashed ... so they adversaries .. laughing
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 15: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              In general, they will soon explode Yellstone.

              I wouldn’t want that. It will be for everyone.

              In general, many people proceed from the erroneous premise that they live in the worst country in the world, whose name is Russia. And this is not at all true. Russia is the BEST country in the world. Take care of Russia!
              1. Uncle Joe
                Uncle Joe 29 October 2015 22: 32 New
                +1
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                In general, many people proceed from the erroneous premise that they live in the worst country in the world, whose name is Russia
                It is not necessary to substitute concepts and “confuse” a country (a territory within certain borders, with a population living in this territory, united by some form of organization of society) with the state (a political organization of a society consisting of a socio-economic system, institutions of power and a political system) .
                1. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 18: 30 New
                  0
                  Quote: Uncle Joe
                  It is not necessary to substitute concepts and “confuse” a country (a territory within certain borders, with a population living in this territory, united by one form or another of the organization of society) with the state (a political organization of a society consisting of a socio-economic system, government institutions and a political system

                  A citizen with a split consciousness, go to a psychiatrist. You have an aggravation on the basis of Russophobia.
                2. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 18: 30 New
                  0
                  Quote: Uncle Joe
                  It is not necessary to substitute concepts and “confuse” a country (a territory within certain borders, with a population living in this territory, united by one form or another of the organization of society) with the state (a political organization of a society consisting of a socio-economic system, government institutions and a political system

                  A citizen with a split consciousness, go to a psychiatrist. You have an aggravation on the basis of Russophobia.
                  1. Uncle Joe
                    Uncle Joe 30 October 2015 19: 18 New
                    0
                    Quote: VseDoFeNi
                    A citizen with a split mind
                    Consciousness is split here only for you, which is clearly manifested both in your statements about the need for nationalization with the comprehensive support of the privatizer-Putin, and in duplication of comments.
              2. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 30 October 2015 00: 53 New
                +1
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                Russia is the BEST country in the world. Take care of Russia!

                In this phrase I’m ready to subscribe to every word ..
                1. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 18: 32 New
                  0
                  Quote: afdjhbn67
                  In this phrase I’m ready to subscribe to every word ..

                  It is a pity that not everyone will subscribe to this phrase. There is a crowd of Russophobia.

                  Take care of Russia !!!
                2. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 18: 32 New
                  0
                  Quote: afdjhbn67
                  In this phrase I’m ready to subscribe to every word ..

                  It is a pity that not everyone will subscribe to this phrase. There is a crowd of Russophobia.

                  Take care of Russia !!!
              3. sherp2015
                sherp2015 31 October 2015 12: 14 New
                0
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                Russia is the BEST country in the world. Take care of Russia!


                Are Kremlin officials taking care of her? Doubts take something looking at their body movements ...
          2. atalef
            atalef 29 October 2015 16: 54 New
            -1
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Americans are a totally sick country. Drowning in debt. They are rapidly losing influence in the world. We don’t need this.

            Eh, to blame, as in the states laughing
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 17: 55 New
              0
              Quote: atalef
              Eh, to blame, as in the states laughing

              I didn’t understand what you wrote here, apparently something funny. But I dare to assure that quantitative easing leads to the abyss of inflation. And no matter how you advocate for loans, their service takes money from the BORROWER. That is, the borrower sells himself into slavery, which makes him doubt the mental abilities of the latter.
              1. atalef
                atalef 29 October 2015 19: 21 New
                +1
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                Quote: atalef
                Eh, to blame, as in the states laughing

                I didn’t understand what you wrote here, apparently something funny. But I dare to assure that quantitative easing leads to the abyss of inflation. And no matter how you advocate for loans, their service takes money from the BORROWER. That is, the borrower sells himself into slavery, which makes him doubt the mental abilities of the latter.

                I meant - to cheer
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                But I dare to assure that quantitative easing leads to the abyss of inflation

                In general, quantitative easing (in America) is over and, as we see, there is no inflation yet
                Is it possible - of course, One question - what inflation is an abyss in your understanding?
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                And no matter how you advocate for loans, their service takes money from the BORROWER.

                Of course. Buying clothes - the same takes money and eating the same, and I dare to assure you that the shops on this have their own percentage.
                If you treat money as a product (and this is a product) - everything will become much simpler

                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                . That is, the borrower sells himself into slavery, which makes him doubt the mental abilities of the latter.

                Slavery? did not overdo it? And to work for the master is the same slavery? And what about the state? - or all of you really pay the amount you earned
                In general, it is good to throw empty slogans.
                hi
                1. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 20: 13 New
                  0
                  Quote: atalef
                  I meant - to cheer

                  I prefer not to get sick in Russia than to get sick in the USA. smile

                  Quote: atalef
                  One question - what inflation is an abyss in your understanding?

                  It does not matter. Another thing is funny, where did you get the idea that the US and the West as a whole, mired in debt, will be able to increase these debts forever or will be able to pay it off or serve forever?

                  Quote: atalef
                  And to work for the master is the same slavery?

                  Also.
                  My worldview is too different from yours.

                  Quote: atalef
                  In general, it is good to throw empty slogans.

                  I do not drink and do not smoke. It's true. smile
                  1. afdjhbn67
                    afdjhbn67 30 October 2015 01: 02 New
                    +1
                    Quote: VseDoFeNi
                    I do not drink and do not smoke

                    Sasha, you try to drink and after a hundred grams to smoke, immediately let go .. not invented by me laughing
                    1. VseDoFeNi
                      VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 07: 06 New
                      0
                      Quote: afdjhbn67
                      try to drink and after a hundred grams to smoke, immediately let go .. not invented by me laughing

                      Drinking is not patriotic. The gene pool is lost. But it’s for you on the drum.
                      And you can inject heroin and forget about everything in the world. Also very comfortable. One problem, drug addicts do not live long and are rapidly degrading, both physically and mentally. Actually, this concerns drinkers.
                      1. afdjhbn67
                        afdjhbn67 30 October 2015 12: 20 New
                        0
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        try to drink and after a hundred grams to smoke, immediately let go .. not invented by me laughing

                        Drinking is not patriotic. The gene pool is lost. But it’s for you on the drum.
                        And you can inject heroin and forget about everything in the world. Also very comfortable. One problem, drug addicts do not live long and are rapidly degrading, both physically and mentally. Actually, this concerns drinkers.

                        And minus if we oppose you think decently, watch your hands - I haven’t put you a single minus, although I disagree with many ...
                      2. VseDoFeNi
                        VseDoFeNi 31 October 2015 09: 09 New
                        0
                        Quote: afdjhbn67
                        And minus if we oppose you think decently, watch your hands - I haven’t put you a single minus, although I disagree with many ...

                        I don’t put either. Paradox!!! wink
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              2. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 20: 13 New
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                I meant - to cheer

                I prefer not to get sick in Russia than to get sick in the USA. smile

                Quote: atalef
                One question - what inflation is an abyss in your understanding?

                It does not matter. Another thing is funny, where did you get the idea that the US and the West as a whole, mired in debt, will be able to increase these debts forever or will be able to pay it off or serve forever?

                Quote: atalef
                And to work for the master is the same slavery?

                Also.
                My worldview is too different from yours.

                Quote: atalef
                In general, it is good to throw empty slogans.

                I do not drink and do not smoke. It's true. smile
                1. Hello
                  Hello 29 October 2015 20: 18 New
                  +1
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  Also.
                  My worldview is too different from yours.

                  Thank you very much, we don’t need such a worldview, if you consider yourself someone else’s slave, your right, I don’t consider myself a slave. Giving your time and work in exchange for money is not slavery.
                  1. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 20: 39 New
                    0
                    Quote: Hello
                    if you consider yourself someone's slave, your right

                    This is when I said that? What work for the master, slavery? So I do not work for the owner.

                    Well, if this question is interesting to you, Katasonov’s book “From Slavery to Slavery. From Ancient Rome to Modern Capitalism.”

                    Quote: Hello
                    Giving your time and work in exchange for money is not slavery.
                    "There is no hopeless slavery than the slavery of those slaves who consider themselves free from the shackles." Goethe.

                    And I’ll also offer you a parable - Demon Kratius (pages on 4 A4).

                    .
                    May today, before sunset, the heralds carry the decree of the pharaoh, which will say: “With the dawn of a new day, all slaves are given complete freedom. For every stone delivered to the city, a free person will receive one coin. Coins can be exchanged for food, clothing, housing, a palace in the city and the city itself. You are now free people. ” And you will see that people without coercion will begin to work with renewed energy and doom themselves to voluntary slavery.

                    The decree at sunset was announced to the slaves, they were amazed and many did not sleep at night, thinking about a new happy life.

                    On the morning of the next day, the priests and the pharaoh again ascended to the site of the pyramid. The picture, which presented to their eyes, was amazing. Thousands of people, former slaves, race dragged the same stones as before. Many carried two stones. Others, who had one at a time, no longer wandered as before, but fled, raising dust. Some guards also dragged stones. People who considered themselves free - because the shackles were removed from them - sought to get as many coveted coins as possible in order to build their happy life.
                    .
                    1. Hello
                      Hello 29 October 2015 21: 01 New
                      +1
                      Quote: VseDoFeNi
                      This is when I said that? What work for the master, slavery? So I do not work for the owner.

                      Yes, but you live in the state, and the state obliges you to pay taxes, comply with laws, goes to school, that is, by your logic, you are a slave to the state.
                      By the way, if you suppose you hire a housekeeper to clean the house, do you consider her your slave? Or maybe you just make a deal? She tells you her time and labor, you give her money.
                    2. VseDoFeNi
                      VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 21: 24 New
                      0
                      Quote: Hello
                      Yes, but you live in the state, and the state obliges you to pay taxes, comply with laws, goes to school, that is, by your logic, you are a slave to the state.

                      Not certainly in that way. The state needs to return to normal functions, removing repressive ones.
                      Our task is to nationalize the banking system, starting with the Central Bank, subsoil and other natural resources, strategic industries, including energy and transport. Return the state’s monopoly on foreign trade, prohibit the free movement of capital across the border. Return the state monopoly on the production and trade of alcohol and tobacco with a gradual reduction in their turnover to zero.
                      The work ahead is great.
                      Due to nationalized resources, there is no need to collect taxes.

                      Quote: Hello
                      By the way, if you suppose you hire a housekeeper to clean the house, do you consider her your slave?

                      Firstly, I’m not self-employed. Secondly, there is such a thing as partnership. The counterparty is also quite suitable.
                    3. afdjhbn67
                      afdjhbn67 30 October 2015 01: 06 New
                      +1
                      Quote: VseDoFeNi
                      Our task is to nationalize the banking system, starting with the Central Bank, subsoil and other natural resources, strategic industries, including energy and transport. Return the state’s monopoly on foreign trade, prohibit the free movement of capital across the border. Return the state monopoly on the production and trade of alcohol and tobacco with a gradual reduction in their turnover to zero.

                      Our challenge

                      It doesn’t scare a lot, the question immediately arises of a secret organization .. I’m certainly a person prof. deformed but still bully
                      Sasha, so we, too, for this with both hands, plus you are huge but ... hi this does not do your beloved Putin and his government ..
                    4. VseDoFeNi
                      VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 07: 15 New
                      0
                      Quote: afdjhbn67
                      this does not do your beloved Putin and his government ..

                      My beloved wife.
                      And Putin corrects the consequences of the dismemberment of the USSR by the hands of corrupt brainless communists in 1991.
                      “Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
                      And I will repeat it as long as there are those who do not understand this. ”© VseDoFeNi

                      Apparently, this will have to be repeated for a long time. laughing
                      This is especially true during the economic war declared by the West of Russia.

                      Putin and his government have ALREADY provided for the rearmament of the Russian army, a hundred we see very well in Syria.
                  2. atalef
                    atalef 30 October 2015 06: 39 New
                    -2
                    Quote: VseDoFeNi
                    Our challenge

                    Quote: VseDoFeNi
                    Great work ahead

                    allowance to help you
                  3. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 30 October 2015 07: 22 New
                    +2
                    Quote: atalef
                    allowance to help you

                    Keep it to yourself. Your manuals have led mankind to a standstill.
                  4. afdjhbn67
                    afdjhbn67 30 October 2015 12: 25 New
                    0
                    Quote: VseDoFeNi
                    Keep it to yourself.

                    By plus to both, the score is 1 -1 good .. but Spartak is the Champion laughing
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  • snifer
    snifer 29 October 2015 06: 13 New
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    put cons, throw bonnets in the air, but it’s time for the whole government to dismiss.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 29 October 2015 06: 48 New
      +7
      The whole government should be sent to comprehend the fundamentals of the economy at the enterprises that they collapsed and force, under pain of death, to restore the entire economy that they had collapsed in a year.
    2. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 09: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: snifer
      put cons, throw bonnets in the air, but it’s time for the whole government to dismiss.

      Why cons? This is the only thing that unanimously unites us all on the site, worse than any patriotism. hi
    3. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 09: 16 New
      +6
      Quote: snifer
      put cons, throw bonnets in the air, but it’s time for the whole government to dismiss.


      Dear Dmitry, is there only a government? The government forms a parliamentary majority, which for more than fifteen years of being in the majority, except for sharing the profits from energy sources, has not been able to tackle the economy.

      How can we think about the majority in parliament in the 2016 elections, dear colleagues? hi
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 09: 50 New
        +6
        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        Somehow we may think about the majority in parliament in the 2016 elections,

        Volodya, I used to vote against everyone in the chapter, then she was removed, after you persuaded to the elections I’ll probably vote for the Liberal Democratic Party, and I’m not going to vote for a lisping misunderstanding .. Zhirik is a man with humor laughing
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 29 October 2015 09: 58 New
          +5
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Zhirik even with humor man

          smart and cunning court jester ...
          There is every reason to believe that in a year we all will have no time for jokes ...
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 10: 48 New
            +3
            Quote: Stroporez
            There is every reason to believe that in a year we all will have no time for jokes ...


            In this colleague, definitely! hi
          2. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 10: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: Stroporez
            smart and cunning

            In principle, a good characteristic .. Mironov and not smart and cunning and not funny for example ..
            Zyuganov is an extremely unsuccessful clone of Lenin ..
            We eat Russia - no comment ..
            wrong business - ready-made traitors ..
            who else is there in the wretched palette of political bomond ??
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 29 October 2015 11: 07 New
              +4
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              who else is there in the wretched palette of political bomond ??

              Now the PR company will begin and some kind of “lights from Ivanovo” will jump out again, and the “car-factories” have not yet exhausted themselves lol
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            3. sa-ag
              sa-ag 29 October 2015 12: 14 New
              +1
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              Zyuganov is an extremely unsuccessful clone of Lenin ..

              Well, what a clone he is, he’s a sidekick, well, as an example, Medvedev instead of Putin :-)
              1. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 14: 02 New
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                Quote: sa-ag
                Well, what a clone is he,

                Yes, it’s me so that I’m not very insulting.
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        3. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 10: 02 New
          +4
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Volodya, I used to vote against everyone in the chapter, then she was removed, after you persuaded to the elections I’ll probably vote for the Liberal Democratic Party, and I’m not going to vote for a lisping misunderstanding .. Zhirik is a man with humor


          Nikolai, I’m never campaigning for anyone specifically, it is up to everyone to decide on their own. And it is necessary to go to the polls, if only because the EDR in domestic politics has completely discredited itself, but it will cling to power to the last drop of blood. And the fewer people come to the polls, the easier it is for edros. And I do not want to make life easier for them. laughing
          Something like this I think, Dear colleague. hi
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 29 October 2015 10: 11 New
            +7
            Quote: Vladimir 1964
            that the EDR in domestic politics completely discredited itself,

            Now preparations are under way for the formation of a new batch to replace the edra and this will be the NF under the leadership of the darkest and voila gd again the same majority ..., without noise and dust
            1. Vladimir 1964
              Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 10: 47 New
              +4
              Quote: Stroporez
              Now preparations are under way for the formation of a new batch to replace the edra and this will be the NF under the leadership of the darkest and voila gd again the same majority ..., without noise and dust

              Dear Stroporez, yes you are right, the work is going on and this is not hiding, but unfortunately there will be the same "faces" in this "new" party, I apologize for the tactlessness. Therefore, I call everyone to the polls, so that most people will be updated.

              Something like this, Dear colleague. hi
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 29 October 2015 10: 57 New
                +4
                Quote: Vladimir 1964
                Therefore, I call everyone to the polls, so that most people will be updated.

                Greetings, Vladimir. hi An update is definitely needed, but somehow it is hard to believe.
                Once again, the people will be bitten off ... Here we will also see what the situation will be in the country at the time of the election ...
                1. Vladimir 1964
                  Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 11: 07 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Greetings, Vladimir. An update is definitely needed, but somehow it is hard to believe.
                  Once again, the people will be bitten off ... Here we will also see what the situation will be in the country at the time of the election ...

                  Dear colleague, it has never been so easy for us. And everything about what you write will certainly take place. But again, the more people come to the polls, the more difficult it is to manipulate the results.
                  Something like this. hi
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 29 October 2015 11: 18 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Vladimir 1964
                    But again, the more people come to the polls, the more difficult it is to manipulate the results.

                    Of course, but I will repeat again in what state the country will approach these elections ...
                    1. Vladimir 1964
                      Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 11: 27 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      Of course, but I will repeat again in what state the country will approach these elections ...

                      What to answer to you colleague, as they say, we hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

                      Like the type in the army. hi
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              3. Amurets
                Amurets 29 October 2015 11: 34 New
                +6
                DEAR COLLEAGUES. You look at these “faces”! From which parties did they not sit? For them, it is not the party and its ideals that are important, but the chair and salary in the State Duma.
                1. Vladimir 1964
                  Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 11: 45 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Amurets
                  DEAR COLLEAGUES. You look at these “faces”! From which parties did they not sit? For them, it is not the party and its ideals that are important, but the chair and salary in the State Duma.


                  Kohl, faces like faces, the most DEPUTY. yes
            2. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 10: 59 New
              +3
              Quote: Stroporez
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              that the EDR in domestic politics completely discredited itself,

              Now preparations are under way for the formation of a new batch to replace the edra and this will be the NF under the leadership of the darkest and voila gd again the same majority ..., without noise and dust

              This is for sure not to go to Vanga. About a New Year’s launch a propaganda machine .. while it’s too early for them to blow up a fuse, we’ll wait and see, but our grandmothers will be fooled by all means ..
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          3. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 10: 51 New
            +3
            Quote: Vladimir 1964
            Something like this I think, Dear colleague.

            So I Volodya, proudly declare - this is my conscious choice laughing
            I read recently selected quotes by Zhirinovsky .. neighing, Volkych burns if he says it on his own, and not copywriters - Ilf and Petrov smoke nervously ...
            1. Vladimir 1964
              Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 11: 10 New
              +4
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              So I Volodya, proudly declare - this is my conscious choice
              I read recently selected quotes by Zhirinovsky .. neighing, Volkych burns if he says it on his own, and not copywriters - Ilf and Petrov smoke nervously ...


              Kolya, plus, and the admin says that I can’t vote for one user, he or a sympathizer from the core. wassat
              1. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 11: 26 New
                +2
                Quote: Vladimir 1964
                Kolya, plus, and the admin says that I can not for one user

                No, this car sculpts, and the moderator Sasha is an adequate comrade. (Sasha fix laughing)
                1. Vladimir 1964
                  Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 11: 30 New
                  +3
                  Quote: afdjhbn67
                  No, this car sculpts, and the moderator Sasha is an adequate comrade. (Sasha lock)


                  Kohl, these adequates have even deprived me of access to the body for a day. wassat
                  1. afdjhbn67
                    afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 11: 54 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Vladimir 1964
                    Kohl, these adequates have even deprived me of access to the body for a day.

                    Look with optimism - rested, full of new thoughts laughing
                    1. Vladimir 1964
                      Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 13: 08 New
                      0
                      Quote: afdjhbn67
                      Look with optimism - rested, full of new thoughts


                      I understood everything, Nikolay, right now I will find optimism and I will watch with him. wassat
                      1. afdjhbn67
                        afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 13: 54 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Vladimir 1964
                        I will find optimism and

                        do not optimize much, tomorrow it will not matter laughing
      2. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 29 October 2015 22: 36 New
        0
        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        Government forms parliamentary majority
        83. President of the Russian Federation:

        a) appoint, with the consent of the State Duma, the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation;

        c) decide on the resignation of the Government of the Russian Federation;

        d) submits to the State Duma a candidate for appointment to the post of Chairman of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation; puts before the State Duma the issue of dismissal of the Chairman of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation;

        e) at the suggestion of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, appoints and dismisses the deputies of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, federal ministers;
    4. anip
      anip 29 October 2015 12: 58 New
      +7
      Quote: snifer
      but it’s time for the whole government to be fired.

      Only the government?
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 14: 05 New
        -4
        Quote: anip
        Only the government?

        You would have to give free rein, you would drive all of Russia with its people on a reservation, like the Indians.
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  • BecmepH
    BecmepH 29 October 2015 06: 14 New
    +3
    and what, in fact, are the job responsibilities of the top ministry of finance?
    And in what they know how to do best. To tear
    hair on the head
    It would be better if they did not tear them on the head ....
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 29 October 2015 06: 50 New
      +3
      Why not on my head? Usually they tear the hair on the head from where the legs grow.
  • Keeper
    Keeper 29 October 2015 06: 19 New
    +8
    That's interesting, what a magic word they know that they remain in place for many years. Probably the same word is known by Serdyukov and Vasilyeva.
    Uri-uri, where is his button ..... (s) winked
  • parusnik
    parusnik 29 October 2015 06: 20 New
    +7
    If the Reserve Fund is shrinking and with the economy ah .. dear minister .. you need to resign ..
    1. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 29 October 2015 06: 24 New
      +3
      Quote: parusnik
      If the Reserve Fund is shrinking and with the economy ah .. dear minister .. you need to resign ..

      No, resignation is too gracious. Here are the uranium mines. There will be time and at least some benefit to bring, and to think about the affairs of their mournful, before becoming food for worms.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 07: 17 New
      -4
      Quote: parusnik
      If the Reserve Fund is shrinking and with the economy ah .. dear minister .. you need to resign ..

      If it does not shrink, you sorry to eat, what will?
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 29 October 2015 07: 55 New
        0
        If it does not shrink, you sorry to eat, what will?
        fif21answered your question well .. Nothing to add ..
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 09: 22 New
          -1
          Quote: parusnik
          answered your question well

          Cheap demagogy, not an answer.
          Quote: parusnik
          ..Nothing to add ..

          I have no doubt, because it’s not him, you don’t know what the money is for.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 29 October 2015 10: 11 New
            +2
            I have no doubt, because it’s not him, you don’t know what the money is for.
            But you probably know something? wink Just hide? ... wink ... But money should work ... Do not hide your money in banks and corners otherwise it would be trouble .. wink
      2. atalef
        atalef 29 October 2015 07: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: parusnik
        If the Reserve Fund is shrinking and with the economy ah .. dear minister .. you need to resign ..

        If it does not shrink, you sorry to eat, what will?

        You can hand over the bottles wassat
        and buy bread crying

        Drunk father sitting in the kitchen in the hollow. a daughter approaches him
        -Daddy. can i hand over the bottles and buy bread
        - Take it, and in general, what would you eat without me

        Hi Sanya
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 09: 25 New
          +4
          Quote: atalef
          You can hand over the bottles
          and buy bread

          Sanya hi. In the United States, they do so, the dollar will soon be Khan, even Hollywood stars are forced to donate bottles to buy bread - Photo factlaughing
          1. andj61
            andj61 29 October 2015 10: 08 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            even Hollywood stars are forced to hand in bottles to buy bread - Photo fact

            Stetham will hand over the bottles and not buy a bread, but a helicopter ... bully
            1. atalef
              atalef 29 October 2015 16: 57 New
              -1
              Quote: andj61
              Stetham will hand over the bottles and not buy a bread, but a helicopter ...


              Yes, you saw him. 7 Healthy, probably in !!!
              We won’t drink a helicopter. crying
      3. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 09: 38 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If it does not shrink, you sorry to eat, what will?

        Do you like the option of untying the ruble from foreign currencies? I like. The main thing is not to get involved in emissions, and the mechanism is described in the work of S.F. Sharapova "Paper ruble. Theory and practice" and explained by Katasonov in "The economic theory of the Slavophiles and modern Russia."

        http://rusinst.ru/docs/books/V.Yu.Katasonov-Economicheskaya_teoriya_slavyanofilo
        v_i_sovremennaya_Rossiya.pdf
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 11: 01 New
          +4
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          Do you like the option of untying the ruble from foreign currencies? I like. The main thing is not to get involved in emissions, and the mechanism is described in the work of S.F. Sharapova "Paper ruble. Theory and practice"

          You see, there is a small problem .. Putin does not like him
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 13: 47 New
            -1
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            You see, there is a small problem .. Putin does not like him

            You can only answer for yourself, and sometimes not always.

            A man sits on the beach, erases his pants and grumbles: but I, after all, only wanted to fart.
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      4. andj61
        andj61 29 October 2015 10: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: parusnik
        If the Reserve Fund is shrinking and with the economy ah .. dear minister .. you need to resign ..

        If it does not shrink, you sorry to eat, what will?

        These grannies do not really reach us, apparently, much more to the leading banks and other oligarchs. hi
        But we don’t know exactly who gets this money.
      5. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 29 October 2015 22: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If it does not shrink, you sorry to eat, what will?
        Oh how.

        And 3 months ago, a shirt on his chest was torn off, that sanctions were imposed, that enterprises were being built, and agriculture - that is how the level of the USSR surpassed in general.
    3. fif21
      fif21 29 October 2015 07: 41 New
      +8
      Quote: parusnik
      If the Reserve Fund is shrinking and with the economy ah .. dear minister .. you need to resign ..
      The reserve fund should work! He must "bring" INCOME! And only profit from it should go to expenses. And here, under the guise of sanctions, we decided to pull him apart. Question: in whose "pocket" will the money of the Reserve Fund go? Siluanov well considers money income-expense, he would still learn to increase income, forcing money NRF, gold reserves work. And it is not Siluanov who is responsible for the fullness of the budget, but the Government of the Russian Federation and the deputies.
      1. atalef
        atalef 29 October 2015 08: 04 New
        -2
        Quote: fif21
        The reserve fund should work! He must "bring" INCOME! And only profit from it should go to expenses

        ?????
        Are you in Norway? And live on what? And where to invest?
        Quote: fif21
        And here, under the guise of sanctions, we decided to pull him away

        Projects are decided upon him, without him - in general a complete ass
        Quote: fif21
        Question: in whose "pocket" will the money of the Reserve Fund go?

        In your 9 today) - without it, the whole social network would have collapsed
        And the defense budget is the same
        Quote: fif21
        Siluanov thinks well of income-expense money, he’d still learn how to increase income, forcing money NRF, ZVR to work


        It is necessary to call a fairy or God (judging by yesterday's article and comments on it.
        GOD plays for Russia .-- everything will be fine.

        Quote: fif21
        And it is not Siluanov who is responsible for the fullness of the budget, but the Government of the Russian Federation and the deputies.

        and the president is present in this formula?
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 09: 12 New
          +5
          Quote: atalef
          and the president is present in this formula?

          again you Sanya swings at the holy .. laughing
        2. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 29 October 2015 09: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          and the president is present in this formula?


          This is not a royal matter, Alexander. Our president is busy with more serious issues, and the boyars, taking advantage of the tsar’s moment and employment, are ruining the country, as a result of pathological kleptomania and complete short-sightedness, because they know how to divide and take away but not to add and multiply.

          Somehow it all looks, from my subjective point of view, Dear colleague. hi
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 09: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          and the president is present in this formula?

          Sanya, you fucked Putin here to drag laughing
        4. fif21
          fif21 29 October 2015 10: 57 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          and the president is present in this formula?
          This “formula” contains all those who are involved in establishing the rules of the “game” in economics and taxes laughing And you don’t pull on a Jew, if only on the Soviet laughing
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      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 09: 28 New
        -3
        Quote: fif21
        The reserve fund should work! He must "bring" INCOME!

        May be appointed prime minister, you know exactly how and what to do wink
        Quote: fif21
        And here, under the guise of sanctions, we decided to pull him away

        From the bastards, they take the reserve fund, which was created for difficult times. How dare they wassat
        Quote: fif21
        Question: in whose "pocket" will the money of the Reserve Fund go?

        And I thought you know everything, no?
        Quote: fif21
        . And it is not Siluanov who is responsible for the fullness of the budget, but the Government of the Russian Federation and the deputies.

        Local authorities are responsible for the budget filling and have always been responsible fool
        1. fif21
          fif21 29 October 2015 10: 48 New
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          May be appointed prime minister, you know exactly how and what to do
          Invite Jareska from Ukraine and she will teach how to put an IMF loan at a commercial interest and not only service a loan from the proceeds, but also spend it on state needs wassat
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And I thought you know everything, no?

          Eating and thinking things are different laughing
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Local authorities are responsible for the budget filling and have always been responsible

          Taxes are divided into local and federal, and the Federal Tax Inspectorate is responsible for their collection. And to introduce or cancel taxes can both local authorities and federal fool fool fool
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  • Kahlan amnell
    Kahlan amnell 29 October 2015 06: 22 New
    14
    These are truly economic geeks. And they really fine perform their task.
    Only not the one we need, but the one that their owners entrusted to them.
    Which was voiced by Lamb Tonkorunny - to tear the Russian economy to shreds.
    1. fif21
      fif21 29 October 2015 07: 51 New
      -1
      Quote: Kahlan Amnell
      Only not the one we need, but the one that their owners entrusted to them
      Siluanov needs to be given the “Hero of Russia” for not having to spend gold and foreign currency reserves on maintaining the ruble to dollar exchange rate. And this was what the "owners" really wanted, so do not blame Siluanov for lobbying the interests of mattresses.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 09: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: fif21
        Siluanov should be given the “Hero of Russia” for not having to spend gold and foreign currency reserves on maintaining the ruble against the dollar.

        it was clear even to my mother-in-law - a simple accountant ...
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    3. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 29 October 2015 07: 52 New
      10
      Having such "friends" in the government and enemies is not necessary! stop
  • slizhov
    slizhov 29 October 2015 06: 27 New
    +7
    It is difficult for people to respect those like Ulyukaev, who, like in the hydromet center, have one forecast in the morning, one in the afternoon, the third in the evening. And so every day, that the dollar, that the cost of a barrel.
    For the last 5 years of retirement age, they have been brainwashed, they are throwing in the compartment with Kudrin different versions of the fall of the Russian economy if Putin doesn’t do something on their advice ...
    These are not only people who are trying to bring confusion, panic, uncertainty into tomorrow, but also people who, contrary to the strong support of the Russian president, believe that the time will come and, like Kozyrev, the Americans will warm their hips with a little puffy cheeks ...
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 29 October 2015 06: 53 New
      +3
      I don’t know about you, but our weather service provides accurate forecasts, unlike the Ministry of Finance.
  • Denis DV
    Denis DV 29 October 2015 06: 27 New
    +1
    Duc, with two owners and not say so. They are like children in a dysfunctional family with an IMF mom and a Russian folder. Not decided before whom to remove the socks for flogging, as a punishment for the jambs hi
  • olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 29 October 2015 06: 30 New
    +2
    The concept of stability in the Russian financial system is not only not, but was not.
    That’s why this financial fraternity does not cope with its duties. Nobody draws the necessary conclusions.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 29 October 2015 08: 34 New
      +8
      Quote: olimpiada15
      Therefore, this financial fraternity does not cope with its responsibilities.

      And who told you that the economy block can not cope?
      Are they not government people?
      They fulfill their tasks precisely within the framework of the state policy of the Russian Federation, and the president and prime minister are absolutely pleased with their work, as evidenced by the high state awards of these characters.
      Who even thought of looking at these “wunderbobes” outside the system? These are people of the system, and Serdyukov with Vasilyeva, these are also people of the system, and the Krasnogorsk measures and Madam Skrynnik are people of the System in it and their constituents.
      And if there are problems in the country, the System as a whole is to blame, and not its individual representatives, such as Lyulyukaev.
  • Denis DV
    Denis DV 29 October 2015 06: 37 New
    +8
    Tatyana Gennadevna Nesterenko - graduate of the Khabarovsk Institute of National Economy with a degree in Finance and Credit (1981).


    Better “Khabarovsk” in the wallet than a graduate from Khabarovsk in the government - is it so?
  • snifer
    snifer 29 October 2015 06: 37 New
    +9
    Now almost the entire population is loaned. Mortgages, cars, .... socks with underpants. Where will the father of the family go with a mortgage, two children and his wife a housewife if he can not service the loan and feed his family ?? Where is the landing? where are the resignations for unsuitability? where are the may decrees of the president? Che for ... happening in domestic politics ???
    1. atalef
      atalef 29 October 2015 08: 08 New
      -2
      Quote: snifer
      Now almost the entire population is loaned. Mortgages, cars, .... socks with underpants. Where will the father of the family go with a mortgage, two children and his wife a housewife if he can not service the loan and feed his family ?? Where is the landing? where are the resignations for unsuitability? where are the may decrees of the president? Che for ... happening in domestic politics ???

      Domestic politics is a hostage to foreign.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 09: 34 New
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        hostage outside.

        Someone Sasha, your Czech accent is slipping today .. don’t drink imperialist whiskey, better than our native Russian .. laughing
    2. atalef
      atalef 29 October 2015 08: 08 New
      -1
      Quote: snifer
      Now almost the entire population is loaned. Mortgages, cars, .... socks with underpants. Where will the father of the family go with a mortgage, two children and his wife a housewife if he can not service the loan and feed his family ?? Where is the landing? where are the resignations for unsuitability? where are the may decrees of the president? Che for ... happening in domestic politics ???

      Domestic politics is a hostage to foreign.
  • taram taramych
    taram taramych 29 October 2015 06: 37 New
    +8
    GDP called the work of the Cabinet satisfactory.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 29 October 2015 08: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: taram taramych
      GDP called the work of the Cabinet satisfactory.

      I would call this work satisfactory - from the word "strangle".
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 09: 31 New
        -8
        Quote: SRC P-15
        I would call this work satisfactory - from the word "strangle

        Probably because you know more about the work of the government than Putin. I hesitate to ask who you are belay
    2. killganoff
      killganoff 29 October 2015 08: 56 New
      +6
      GDP called the work of the Cabinet satisfactory.

      Apparently the people and the supreme have different evaluation criteria.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 09: 34 New
        -3
        Quote: killganoff
        Apparently the people and the supreme have different evaluation criteria.

        It's just that the people in our country are smarter than Putin, always laughing
  • vladim.gorbunow
    vladim.gorbunow 29 October 2015 06: 40 New
    +6
    Maybe Russian capitalism is not coping with its responsibilities?
    1. Vityok
      Vityok 29 October 2015 07: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: vladim.gorbunow
      Maybe Russian capitalism is not coping with its responsibilities?

      Totally agree with you. If only I added "Wild Russian capitalism" crying
    2. sherp2015
      sherp2015 29 October 2015 07: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: vladim.gorbunow
      Maybe Russian capitalism is not coping with its responsibilities?


      Capitalism is coping for itself ...
      And he don’t need the Russian people. In any case, superfluous. Crowds in queues from abroad are waiting for migrant workers ...
    3. taram taramych
      taram taramych 29 October 2015 11: 30 New
      -1
      Sarcasm is inappropriate, and capital has no nationality. Not everyone has sold out yet.
    4. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 29 October 2015 23: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: vladim.gorbunow
      Maybe Russian capitalism is not coping with its responsibilities?
      The only duty of capitalism is to extract the maximum possible profit in favor of the owners of the means of production at the expense of people forced to sell their labor.

      He copes with this duty perfectly.
  • Romeohihnic
    Romeohihnic 29 October 2015 06: 41 New
    -11
    Quote: snifer
    put cons, throw bonnets in the air, but it’s time for the whole government to dismiss.

    Everyone except VV Putin !!!
    1. killganoff
      killganoff 29 October 2015 09: 05 New
      +3
      Romeohihnic,
      Quote: snifer
      put cons, throw bonnets in the air, but it’s time for the whole government to dismiss.
      Everyone except VV Putin !!!


      You somehow remind one character from the Soviet cartoon "Mowgli".
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 29 October 2015 06: 42 New
    +8
    I don’t understand why they are attached to oil prices? Are we the United Arab Emirates, where there is nothing besides oil? I remember the time when they cried that if the price of oil falls below 27mi of toilet paper, the economy will collapse. Appetite seems to come with a meal.
    1. paxil
      paxil 29 October 2015 06: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: EvgNik
      I don’t understand why they are attached to oil prices? Are we the United Arab Emirates, where there is nothing besides oil? I remember the time when they cried that if the price of oil falls below 27mi of toilet paper, the economy will collapse. Appetite seems to come with a meal.

      So I, too, about the same thing, they persistently convince us that we are sitting on an oil needle. Although Putin clearly said that oil and gas revenues account for only 9% of GDP. After all, mattresses thought so when oil prices collapsed with sauds, all black Russia thought all black people said that they had torn our economy to shreds. As a result, the Sauds were eating up their reserves in the mattress, the shale revolution was bent. Here, let me give you an example, the Uralmash plant is almost I’ve breathed in for two decades, now plowing in three shifts, import embarrassment has revived the giant. So let more sanctions impose on our economy like a balm for the soul.
      1. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 29 October 2015 23: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: paxil
        Putin clearly said that oil and gas revenues account for only 9% of GDP
        And what is GDP, he did not accidentally tell you? lol
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 29 October 2015 07: 11 New
      +7
      And you look at the whole world financial system. It is all tied to candy wrappers. When the law on the Central Bank was passed, the ruble was tied to the dollar. Look at the program for 500 days of Yavlinsky and all the laws that were passed under this program. This was at the time when Yavlinsky was the prime minister. And until now, no one wants to repeal these economic laws, since it will not be beneficial for the United States. And yet, I don’t remember exactly what price of oil, somewhere around 100 green, above this price is calculated exclusively by US treasury obligations. So US debt is paid by oil-producing countries. Maybe I explained something wrong, but this is how our financial system is built.
      1. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 29 October 2015 23: 19 New
        0
        Quote: Amurets
        And you look at the whole world financial system. It is all tied to candy wrappers.
        In what way?

        When the law on the Central Bank was passed, the ruble was tied to the dollar
        How so?

        Look at the program of 500 days of Yavlinsky and all the laws that were passed under this program. This was at a time when Yavlinsky was the prime minister
        Yavlinsky was never the prime minister.

        So U.S. debts are paid by oil producing countries
        And this is true just as much as Yavlinsky was the prime minister.
      2. sherp2015
        sherp2015 31 October 2015 12: 39 New
        0
        Quote: Amurets
        . Look at the program of 500 days of Yavlinsky and all the laws that were adopted under this program. This was at a time when Yavlinsky was the prime minister


        Is this Yavlinsky still alive?
    3. atalef
      atalef 29 October 2015 08: 10 New
      +6
      Quote: EvgNik
      I remember the time when they cried that if the price of oil falls below 27mi of toilet paper, the economy will collapse.


      You are wrong in this
      GDP said
      Oil can't cost less than 90 bucks
      at 70, the global economy is ruinous.
      Googling.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 09: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Googling.

        Gu gu, and in response to silence .. laughing
    4. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 29 October 2015 09: 24 New
      +6
      Quote: EvgNik
      I don’t understand

      which is typical for our leaders, everything is always bad, expensive oil is bad, there is a lot of money, cheap again there is nothing to saw, a cheap raccoon is bad, but worse than an expensive raccoon. And the most paradoxical thing is that prices for everything are rising regardless of the situation on the world market, while figures with a clever face find explanations for everything.
      some hell .... in the furnace of all!
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  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 29 October 2015 06: 49 New
    +1
    Apparently there is no one to replace it yet.
    And there, if you change, then all at once.
    At the same time, immediately give a suspended sentence for theft.
    What would later, upon the discovery of real theft,
    plant without delay.
    Regularly check them themselves and relatives to the fifth knee
    for the presence of nest egg abroad, to study and be treated only with us.
    Then maybe it will be good.
    In the meantime, we are only a resource for them, while not valuable.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 29 October 2015 09: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Zomanus
      And there, if you change, then all at once.
      At the same time, immediately give a suspended sentence for theft.

      Do you offer them to lead from prison? lol
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  • paxil
    paxil 29 October 2015 06: 49 New
    +4
    He was refused a raise in the retirement age for citizens, so he came up with another horror story ghoul. No, in order to work normally, he is all standing up for something. We already have one oracle Kudrin (be it not okay), so another wound up. Let them broadcast with a filthy broom. I’ll vote for the Communists in the next election, these liberals are tired of colicky liver. am
  • Mechanic
    Mechanic 29 October 2015 06: 53 New
    +6
    And what else can such citizens with an intaglio stamp of intelligence on their faces predict - only decline? It’s easier - you don’t have to strain your brains. I did not hear any creative plan either from Siluanov or from Ulyukaev (there is also such a child prodigy). These two ministries took on the role of simply recording the stages of the fall.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 29 October 2015 06: 54 New
    +4
    Quote: parusnik
    If the Reserve Fund is shrinking and with the economy ah .. dear minister .. you need to resign ..

    Our country (unlike most others) had a huge handicap. The reserve stock accumulated in the "fat" years can be spent on building a new economy. Numerous order-bearers, "doctors" of sciences, "deserved" financiers-P.R.O. SRALI all reserve fund, and did not achieve anything. Although this "elite" has achieved a lot for themselves and their loved ones. They have raided for several generations! hi
  • Bayonet
    Bayonet 29 October 2015 06: 59 New
    -2
    Maybe we’ll shout “Thanks for the sanctions!”? But from the very beginning it was clear what they would lead to. It’s easier to blame the government for everything, to appoint the last one, so to speak, but this will not make it any easier for anyone.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 07: 19 New
      -4
      Quote: Bayonet
      . It’s easier to blame the government for everything, to appoint the last one, so to speak, but this will not make it any easier for anyone.

      But in Russia it has always been like that. Under Yeltsin, at every opportunity, Chubais was smashed. The people do not grow wiser or do not want to grow wiser request
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 29 October 2015 07: 57 New
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        . The people do not grow wiser or do not want to grow wiser request


        Good day, Sasha! Why get smarter ?! In all troubles it’s easier to blame someone.

        I’m calling my son in Sevastopol, he says that they have already turned on the heating. I’m calling our administration and stupidly wondering: “why is heating in Sevastopol already, but we don’t have ?!” The answer was awesome: "Well, it's probably colder there !?" Who's guilty?! And so we have almost everything.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 09: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: B.T.W.
          Who is to blame?

          Medvedev is generally who else laughing .By the way, yesterday I spoke with the Big Stone on skype, those who already have heating from the factory. Although you still feel warm.
          Hi, Tanya hi
        2. Amurets
          Amurets 29 October 2015 09: 36 New
          +4
          So you are south than Sevastopol as much as 2 degrees 22 minutes 00 seconds.
    2. atalef
      atalef 29 October 2015 08: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Bayonet
      Maybe we’ll shout “Thanks for the sanctions!”? But from the very beginning it was clear what they would lead to. It’s easier to blame the government for everything, to appoint the last one, so to speak, but this will not make it any easier for anyone.

      Hey . Alexander
      Looks like screams - Thanks for the sanctions, we have our own. we will bury Europe by counter-conspiracies. countries will be in line for us to sell cheaper. have a BRIC. TS, etc. - as it breaks into simple mathematics and statistics.
      The headquarters fund is being eaten up and money is left for a year.
      Although my opinion and understanding the mentality of Putin-all the money stabilization fund will not spend.
      The hungry childhood of post-war children mentally will not give them the opportunity to remain without a nest egg (I judge my mother)
      so
      1. increase retirement age
      2. Reduce social spending
      3. Finish the project Novorossia
      4. There will be no indexations
      The truth is now climbed into Syria.
      Well. There will be no easy year.
      1. Denis_469
        Denis_469 29 October 2015 08: 59 New
        0
        Sanctions have nothing to do with it. There is simply a collapse of capitalism and private property with money. And that’s it. In 2012, there were no sanctions, but I already predicted the problems of 2016. And just in the economy. And I can even add that, according to my prediction, Putin will leave next year. Himself, because the economy will collapse.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 29 October 2015 09: 10 New
          +4
          Quote: Denis_469
          Sanctions have nothing to do with it. There is simply a collapse of capitalism and private property with money. And that’s it.

          You should have been in the seventeenth year, but to get into an armored car ...
          1. Denis_469
            Denis_469 29 October 2015 09: 21 New
            0
            Quote: Bayonet
            You should have been in the seventeenth year, but to get into an armored car ...

            The seventeenth year is approaching. And the end of capitalism in Russia as well. So be patient for 2 years and you will see the seventeenth year again.
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 09: 29 New
              +3
              Quote: Denis_469
              So be patient for 2 years and you will see the seventeenth year again.

              Do you see yourself exclusively in the form of a punishing hand or do you understand that someone else's hand can punish you and your loved ones?
              In Civil after 1917, more than ten million of our citizens died. Are you eager to arrange Russian genocide?
              1. Denis_469
                Denis_469 29 October 2015 09: 35 New
                -5
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                Do you see yourself exclusively in the form of a punishing hand or do you understand that someone else's hand can punish you and your loved ones?

                When the time comes, you will find out who I see myself. And what will I do. Not yet time.
                1. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 29 October 2015 11: 17 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Denis_469
                  When the time comes, you will find out who I see myself. And what will I do. Not yet time.

                  "It hurts you are menacing as I look ..." laughing
                  1. Denis_469
                    Denis_469 29 October 2015 11: 21 New
                    0
                    Quote: Bayonet
                    "It hurts you are menacing as I look ..."

                    He laughs best who laughs last.
                    1. VseDoFeNi
                      VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 13: 55 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Denis_469
                      He laughs best who laughs last.

                      That is, the Russian genocide is completely fine with you?
            2. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 09: 29 New
              +3
              Quote: Denis_469
              So be patient for 2 years and you will see the seventeenth year again.

              Do you see yourself exclusively in the form of a punishing hand or do you understand that someone else's hand can punish you and your loved ones?
              In Civil after 1917, more than ten million of our citizens died. Are you eager to arrange Russian genocide?
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 09: 59 New
                +3
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                You see yourself exclusively as a punishing hand

                I have an alcoholic next door, I also see myself constantly by someone, it all depends on the amount I have drunk lol
                1. Denis_469
                  Denis_469 29 October 2015 10: 03 New
                  -4
                  Don’t judge by yourself. I have a neighbor there is a complete degenerate with money. He considers himself cool. And he called the traffic police to find out about his car, so he learned that he had already lingered on this world. And he didn’t already have a car and he himself was registered at the cemetery.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 10: 10 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Denis_469
                    I have a neighbor there is a complete degenerate with money

                    Oh that envy wink
                    Quote: Denis_469
                    And he called the traffic police

                    Knock knock knock, knock knock knock, knock knock
                    Quote: Denis_469
                    , so I learned that he had lingered on this world already

                    The traffic cop took and laid out to you all the info about the man on the phone, nude nude lol
                    Quote: Denis_469
                    . And he didn’t already have a car, and he himself was registered in the cemetery.

                    Funny, interesting for this nonsense someone will put a plus. The other does not interest me, so purely psychologically laughing
                    1. Denis_469
                      Denis_469 29 October 2015 10: 26 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Oh that envy

                      And to whom to envy? Him. So I myself am much richer.

                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Knock knock knock, knock knock knock, knock knock

                      No, not knock, knock. It’s just that down blocked the exit of my parents’s car with his car and had to call the traffic police to set down the brains.

                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      The traffic cop took and laid out to you all the info about the man on the phone, nude nude

                      I - laid out. And several times I asked about the make of the car and its number. That's for the very reason.
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 10: 45 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Denis_469
                        Him. So I myself am much richer.

                        Yes, I know who you are, I know well. Wherever you appear, everyone knows you as a boor.
                        Millionaire shouting laughing
                      2. Denis_469
                        Denis_469 29 October 2015 10: 49 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Millionaire shouting

                        At least I do not buy odnushki on credit. And my relatives do not buy a used car loan. For some reason, there’s enough money for everything. They wanted to buy another 1 troyka in the city, so there was no apartment where they wanted. Therefore, we will wait until something else is built.

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Yes, I know who you are, I know well. Wherever you appear, everyone knows you as a boor.

                        So that's great. On the opinion of all I do not care deeply. And I will continue to do this.
                      3. Bayonet
                        Bayonet 29 October 2015 11: 21 New
                        0
                        Quote: Denis_469
                        . On the opinion of all I do not care deeply.

                        Professional loan? wink
                2. afdjhbn67
                  afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 11: 13 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Funny, interesting for this nonsense someone will put a plus. The other does not

                  Also laugh inadequate campaign full
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 10: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: Denis_469
          and you will see the seventeenth year again.
          1. Denis_469
            Denis_469 29 October 2015 10: 04 New
            -1
            I don’t give a damn about your chiches. The economy is collapsing and collapsing without options. And after the collapse, the search for the extreme begins. And they will be both Putin himself and everyone who chose him for the 3rd term of government. You can draw any figs, but the laws of economics cannot be corrected with figs.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 10: 12 New
              +3
              Quote: Denis_469
              The economy is collapsing and collapsing without options.

              Dream, dreamer.
              Quote: Denis_469
              And after the collapse, the search for the extreme begins. And they will be both Putin himself and everyone who chose him for the 3rd term of government.

              Do you want to run with a gun with a red bandage on your hand - another fig you tongue
              1. Denis_469
                Denis_469 29 October 2015 10: 22 New
                -1
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Do you want to run with a gun with a red bandage on your hand - another fig you

                No, I don’t need to get dirty myself eliminating the waste. Just some garbage (zaputintsy) will clash with other garbage (belolentochniki) and mutually destroy each other. And this will happen after the economy collapses. And only by the fact that the whole difference between the white-collar workers and the Zaputinists is who is at the trough of the state. And the economic programs of both parties are equally failed.
                Therefore, you should not think that if I predicted events for 2016, then I do not know and cannot predict what is expected and how.
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 10: 39 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Denis_469
                  No, I don’t need to get dirty myself eliminating the waste.

                  You hear, you are the scum of society, the submarine commander told you this in 2012, should you remind me?
                  Remind you of your lousy underground.
                  Do you recall who you really are?
                  1. Denis_469
                    Denis_469 29 October 2015 10: 50 New
                    0
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    You hear, you are the scum of society, the submarine commander told you this in 2012, should you remind me?

                    I don’t care what position the garbage is in.

                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Remind you of your lousy underground.

                    Well, remind me - it will be interesting for me to learn something new about myself.

                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    Do you recall who you really are?

                    Remind, remind. And then suddenly what am I not knowing about myself yet?
                  2. Denis_469
                    Denis_469 29 October 2015 11: 00 New
                    0
                    Why shut up something. Come on - tell me about me. And when you communicate with scum, you learn a lot about yourself. So it’s interesting for me to learn something new about myself. What are you lying about me this time? Or is it all a lie?
                2. Hello
                  Hello 29 October 2015 11: 35 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Denis_469
                  No, I don’t need to get dirty myself eliminating the waste. Just some garbage (zaputintsy) clash

                  Hmm ... what chamber are you writing from? Or from a sealed wagon?
            2. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 18: 01 New
              0
              Quote: Denis_469
              but the laws of economics cannot be corrected with figs.

              A citizen, economics in the same usa is taught at the liberal arts school - liberal arts. What are the shmokon laws?
              1. atalef
                atalef 29 October 2015 19: 22 New
                +1
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                Quote: Denis_469
                but the laws of economics cannot be corrected with figs.

                A citizen, economics in the same usa is taught at the liberal arts school - liberal arts. What are the shmokon laws?

                So what ? So is it so bad for them?
        3. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 11: 11 New
          +3
          Quote: Denis_469
          The seventeenth year is approaching.

          Wow Sam..Zyuganov honored our site ???
          1. Hello
            Hello 29 October 2015 11: 37 New
            +4
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            Wow Sam..Zyuganov honored our site ???

            Take higher Lenin / Trotsky 2.0
        4. Bayonet
          Bayonet 29 October 2015 11: 15 New
          +1
          Quote: Denis_469
          The seventeenth year is approaching. And the end of capitalism in Russia as well. So be patient for 2 years and you will see the seventeenth year again.

          And it’s weak to argue that this is nonsense on a box of cognac? Or two years later as Khoji Nasreddin - or donkey, or emir .... smile
          1. Denis_469
            Denis_469 29 October 2015 11: 20 New
            0
            Quote: Bayonet
            And it’s weak to argue that this is nonsense on a box of cognac?

            I haven’t argued with anyone for a long time. Now this is not interesting to me.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 09: 39 New
      +2
      Quote: Denis_469
      And I can even add that, according to my prediction, Putin will leave next year

      Opa and we have a new Nostradamus studio and today he will tell us what will happen tomorrow wassat
      Quote: Denis_469
      Sanctions have nothing to do with it.

      Of course laughing
      Quote: Denis_469
      Himself, because the economy will collapse.

      Wangyu, next year you will be imprisoned, because the economy will collapse, there will be chaos in the country and you will go out of work to steal. There you will be tied up by cops and soldered for a period of 5 years-good luck lol
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 29 October 2015 11: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        . There you will be tied up by cops and soldered for a period of 5 years, good luck

        Or maybe the rebellious "dregs" will be hung on a pole like a bourgeois-world-eater! smile Or is the option of evacuation over the hill ready?
    4. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 11: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: Denis_469
      Putin will leave next year’s prediction.

      Historical moment .. reincarnation of women Wanga .. fellow
      1. Denis_469
        Denis_469 29 October 2015 11: 11 New
        -1
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        Historical moment .. reincarnation of women Wanga ..

        Already happened. Lives in France. And also agree with my point of view. Her name is Kaede.
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 12: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: Denis_469
          Already happened. Lives in France. And also agree with my point of view. Her name is Kaede.

          It’s already scary, it’s as if I dumped it from the 6th chamber ..
  • Bayonet
    Bayonet 29 October 2015 09: 08 New
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    4. There will be no indexations

    Hi Sasha! Working retirees have already been promised to cancel indexation, and it will come to another, but what to do request
    Naive people think that changing the minister will live better, well, God help ... hi
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 October 2015 09: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: Bayonet
      Naive people think that changing the minister will live better,

      This is not naivety, this is stupidity.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 29 October 2015 11: 28 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This is not naivety, this is stupidity.

        Yes, it’s better to say it bluntly. hi
  • fif21
    fif21 29 October 2015 11: 32 New
    0
    Quote: atalef
    1. increase the retirement age 2. Reduce costs for social programs3.Novorossiya will finish the project. 4. There will be no indexations
    And it's all !? 1.-yes 2.-yes 3.-no 4.-yes total: 25% lies! Where did you study? Raise taxes! Strengthen fiscal measures to stop the withdrawal of money abroad. The "planting" of overgrown officials (corruption) will begin. Conditions will be created for the development of domestic industry (import substitution). Thanks for the sanctions !!!! they sobered up our rulers and even ordinary people. And now you have to choose between "tightening your belts" and "loss of sovereignty" you don’t understand this - you always "lay" under the strong, and the hero of the Russians is Spartak, which is why we can never be brought to our knees in a non-economic and non-military way.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 29 October 2015 12: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: fif21
      The "landing" of overgrown officials will begin (corruption)

      What is this based on? I know one case - Khodorkovsky, but he wasn’t going to share it, he at all swung at the sacred - at the power in the country :-) And so - he sent several billion people to freedom with a clear conscience, Father Vasilyeva returned 800 million and she to freedom with a clear conscience, it can already be said a kind of system, the one who can pay or wants to do this can not worry about his freedom
    2. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 12: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: fif21
      Russian hero - Spartak,

      Rather, the hero of the Italian ... And Spartak is the Champion laughing
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  • slaventi
    slaventi 29 October 2015 15: 07 New
    0
    They climbed into Syria, but delayed the drain of Novorossia. They will increase their age and shorten their social programs. There is no doubt. So that you do not need to have the right to make decisions, and not follow the instructions of the IMF
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 30 October 2015 06: 34 New
      0
      Quote: slaventi
      . Without a doubt. To avoid this, you must have the right to make decisions

      To avoid this, you need to have a lot of money, and we are eating up the stabilization fund! hi
  • Hardy
    Hardy 29 October 2015 09: 01 New
    +2
    Quote: Bayonet
    Maybe we’ll shout “Thanks for the sanctions!”? But from the very beginning it was clear what they would lead to. It’s easier to blame the government for everything, to appoint the last one, so to speak, but this will not make it any easier for anyone.

    Sanctions are the refusal of the slave owner to give the slave a balance. But work (pump oil) is required as before.
    Our government is the slave owner overseers. They themselves do not decide anything, since they said they would work for free — that means we’ll tighten our belts tighter, especially since they are personally paid even more than before. This is our whole Russian economy, or rather not ours.

    Let me remind you that before the Second World War the USSR was under even tougher Western sanctions, even oil was not allowed to sell. But this did not prevent the country from developing at the fastest pace in the world and becoming a superpower by the year 39.
    If you work for yourself, and not for uncle for candy wrappers, then how can these sanctions affect us? Or maybe you can’t live without a dorby? So we can produce cheese ourselves, as we used to do Soviet Champagne. By the way, the Europeans themselves do not eat this moldy cheese very much)))))
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 29 October 2015 07: 03 New
    +2
    MONEY again goes to save the business of those who robbed the country in the 90s ... they came up with a beautiful answer to any indignation: "don’t rock the boat and don’t bother us to use the money" ... Until they massively drive the "master" out of their seats and put on the stream a labor boarding school for them. Khodorkovsky - no one will respect the authorities ...
    The key to the problem is chronic tax collection.
    1. Mechanic
      Mechanic 29 October 2015 08: 54 New
      +7
      And two more keys: chronic non-payment of FSW services and traffic police fines!
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 29 October 2015 09: 34 New
        +3
        Quote: Mechanic
        And two more keys: chronic non-payment of FSW services and traffic police fines!

        laughing laughing laughing
        neighing
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    2. fif21
      fif21 29 October 2015 11: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: samarin1969
      The key to the problem is chronic tax collection.
      I agree. But I would also add a chronic plunder of the collected.
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  • Jarilo
    Jarilo 29 October 2015 07: 05 New
    +3
    I didn’t understand what budget Siluanov was talking about. The budget of Russia is formed in rubles, and income and expenses, and income from the sale of oil abroad in dollars. In rubles, the oil price has not changed since the fat years, the ruble fell as much as the price of oil fell. Where does such a breakthrough of dollars go? It should be more modest, less withdraw currency from the country, the times are really not the same. People will cease to pay at all, but you will still not have enough money. Enough to rob the country already.
  • 3 Gorynych
    3 Gorynych 29 October 2015 07: 07 New
    +3
    finance specialist Anton Siluanov, who said that 2016 could be the last year of the existence of the Russian Reserve Fund.
    How nice it would be to read that 2015 was the last year of the work of Mr.aa Siluanov and K. ...
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 29 October 2015 08: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: 3
      How nice it would be to read that 2015 was the last year of the work of Mr.aa Siluanov and K. ...


      They will take this away, put another Miracle. "geek" ...
    2. atalef
      atalef 29 October 2015 08: 05 New
      +5
      Quote: 3
      finance specialist Anton Siluanov, who said that 2016 could be the last year of the existence of the Russian Reserve Fund.
      How nice it would be to read that 2015 was the last year of the work of Mr.aa Siluanov and K. ...


      And the first year of Glazyev’s work.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 29 October 2015 09: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        And the first year of Glazyev’s work.

        I wonder what would they say about him in a year? smile
        1. andj61
          andj61 29 October 2015 10: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: Bayonet
          Quote: atalef
          And the first year of Glazyev’s work.

          I wonder what would they say about him in a year? smile

          Everyone can work when there is not much money in the budget, and when the budget needs to be patched, Glazyev is unlikely to cope. Although this government is already tired of everyone ...
    3. atalef
      atalef 29 October 2015 08: 05 New
      -1
      Quote: 3
      finance specialist Anton Siluanov, who said that 2016 could be the last year of the existence of the Russian Reserve Fund.
      How nice it would be to read that 2015 was the last year of the work of Mr.aa Siluanov and K. ...


      And the first year of Glazyev’s work.
  • sledge
    sledge 29 October 2015 07: 10 New
    +2
    I think it’s a sinful thing, during the reign of I.V. Would Stalin be shot like dogs in the backyards or prom in offices?
    1. atalef
      atalef 29 October 2015 08: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Sanya
      I think it’s a sinful thing, during the reign of I.V. Would Stalin be shot like dogs in the backyards or prom in offices?


      And many would applaud this news while at the construction sites of socialism, in Dallag.
    2. atalef
      atalef 29 October 2015 08: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Sanya
      I think it’s a sinful thing, during the reign of I.V. Would Stalin be shot like dogs in the backyards or prom in offices?


      And many would applaud this news while at the construction sites of socialism, in Dallag.
      1. wild
        wild 29 October 2015 08: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Sanya
        I think it’s a sinful thing, during the reign of I.V. Would Stalin be shot like dogs in the backyards or prom in offices?


        And many would applaud this news while at the construction sites of socialism, in Dallag.

        Campaign you have personal problems ??? What do you have against the construction projects of socialism ??? I would call you obscene and banned.
        1. atalef
          atalef 29 October 2015 08: 54 New
          0
          Quote: wild
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: Sanya
          I think it’s a sinful thing, during the reign of I.V. Would Stalin be shot like dogs in the backyards or prom in offices?


          And many would applaud this news while at the construction sites of socialism, in Dallag.

          Campaign you have personal problems ??? What do you have against the construction projects of socialism ??? I would call you obscene and banned.

          And you are on a hair dryer, maybe then they will not banned ☺
          1. wild
            wild 29 October 2015 15: 30 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: wild
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Sanya
            I think it’s a sinful thing, during the reign of I.V. Would Stalin be shot like dogs in the backyards or prom in offices?


            And many would applaud this news while at the construction sites of socialism, in Dallag.

            Campaign you have personal problems ??? What do you have against the construction projects of socialism ??? I would call you obscene and banned.

            And you are on a hair dryer, maybe then they will not banned ☺

            You don’t bother me, you didn’t graze sheep together.
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 29 October 2015 09: 16 New
          -1
          Quote: wild
          I would call you obscene and banned.

          Are you wild? smile
          1. wild
            wild 29 October 2015 15: 31 New
            0
            Quote: Bayonet
            Quote: wild
            I would call you obscene and banned.

            Are you wild? smile

            And what does the nickname say nothing ??? laughing
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 15: 57 New
              0
              Quote: wild
              And what does the nickname say nothing ??? laughing

              As I understand you. laughing
            2. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 15: 57 New
              0
              Quote: wild
              And what does the nickname say nothing ??? laughing

              As I understand you. laughing
  • Born in USSR
    Born in USSR 29 October 2015 07: 12 New
    +6
    All our trouble is that these child prodigies are not responsible for anything. The mind to work for the country is not enough, or rather they don’t want, or rather do not order, the owners from behind the hill. But they know how to drag with a twinkle, mom do not cry out such schemes. The heirs of Gaidar and the red cat.
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 07: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Born in the USSR
      But they know how to drag with a twinkle, mom do not cry out such schemes.

      Share, very interesting. laughing

      Quote: Born in the USSR
      All our trouble is that these child prodigies are not responsible for anything.

      Our whole misfortune is that people do not want to think and do not know how.
      They will write in the article disgusting about Russia, even if it’s knowingly false and people are yelling-DOLL !!!
      They will write in another article about the successes of Russia - and people are yelling - URA !!!
      Actually, it was about this that Henry Ford said: - Thinking is the most difficult job; that’s probably why so few are doing it.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 29 October 2015 08: 03 New
        +4
        Actually, Henry Ford the Elder said a little differently: “The worst punishment for a person is when he is forced to think.” But maybe we have different sources of this expression.
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 08: 07 New
          +3
          Quote: Amurets
          But maybe we have different sources of this expression.

          "My life. My achievements" Henry Ford.

          In general, Oleg Matveychev is thousandfold right. http://matveychev-oleg.livejournal.com/2673316.html

          By the way, about stupid Americans as a result of propaganda. Already in the 16th century in Europe there were many brochures for every brainless layman. It was written there that the Russian Tsar is a drunkard and a lascivious, and all his subjects are just as wild. And in the instructions to the ambassadors it was indicated that the tsar was a teetotaler, unpleasantly smart, couldn’t tolerate drunkards, and even forbade drinking alcohol in Moscow, as a result of which you can “get drunk” only outside the city, in the so-called “liquors” (the place where they pour) . Source - Study "Ivan the Terrible" by Casimir Valishevsky, France. Now guess three times - which of the two versions is presented in the textbooks?

          In general, our textbooks are based on the principle all that is said about the vile Russia is true. All that is said good or intelligible is a lie.
          1. andj61
            andj61 29 October 2015 10: 15 New
            0
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            In general, our textbooks are based on the principle that everything that is said about Russia is vile, this is true. All that is said good or intelligible is a lie.

            good For half a millennium nothing has changed ... request
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 18: 14 New
              0
              Quote: andj61
              For half a millennium nothing has changed ...

              Technology, you know.
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        2. atalef
          atalef 29 October 2015 08: 55 New
          0
          Quote: Amurets
          Actually, Henry Ford the Elder said a little differently: “The worst punishment for a person is when he is forced to think.” But maybe we have different sources of this expression.

          You have different approaches, who thinks, someone thinks, what thinks
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 09: 23 New
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            You have different approaches, who thinks, someone thinks, what thinks

            You are certainly sure what you think. wink
            And you got divorced on brandy. yes good
          2. Amurets
            Amurets 29 October 2015 09: 57 New
            +1
            atalef. Actually, I was taught to think what you say and be responsible for the decisions made.
      2. fif21
        fif21 29 October 2015 11: 47 New
        0
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Actually, it was about this that Henry Ford said: - Thinking is the most difficult job; that’s probably why so few are doing it.
        drinks drinks drinks
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    2. Mechanic
      Mechanic 29 October 2015 09: 01 New
      0
      And what else did the hillock do?
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 29 October 2015 09: 53 New
        0
        Yes. A very useful book; Arthur Bloch Complete Murphy's Laws.
  • ImPerts
    ImPerts 29 October 2015 07: 12 New
    +3
    Interesting position. But with the price of oil in 120 "candy wrappers" (and even with a multi-billion dollar cushion of financial security), the above-mentioned average statistical accountant is also able to execute the budget, but you must try to execute it at a price of 45-50 dollars. Or are our economic geeks not trained in this? ..

    Repeatedly and probably will repeat for a long time, most of the economists and lawyers graduate in our country. And the biggest problems in economics and law. Those. everyone knows how to snatch and cheat. Everybody knows how to make a millionaire out of a billionaire, no special mind is needed ... A HSE or Plekhanovka diploma is not necessary there.
  • andrei.yandex
    andrei.yandex 29 October 2015 07: 17 New
    +1
    The Ministry of Finance did not say anything new, they are rather silent or do not know much by their meekness.
    Here is one of the opinions of a financial analyst:

    Or Opinion Katasonogo V.Yu., who for several years has been warning where we are moving. This is one of his last interviews:
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 29 October 2015 18: 18 New
      0
      Quote: andrei.yandex
      The Ministry of Finance did not say anything new, they are rather silent or do not know much by their meekness.

      Oh, since yandex and witlessness, immediately pushed into the cinema search. laughing
      Nevermind. repeat

      But in essence, a neuromir, a strongly Russophobic anti-Russian libelous resource.
  • Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 29 October 2015 07: 19 New
    +7
    In the backyard of the city administration there is not a single Russian car, but quite steep foreign. These are the cars of the workers on which they came to work. I do not write anything about their mansions. When a hard worker has been building his modest home for 10 years without any frills, then the head of the administration grows a mansion with a high fence for a year. Where does the money come from? They will say on credit, I know. But why can't a hard worker afford such a loan? That's where the dog buried! The higher the position, the steeper the mansions and garages with contents. And here you are Ekonooomika, Prodigies, someone’s Reserve Fooond ... The situation needs to be changed, hard workers in the ministries, and all the inhabitants of it, complaining and whining, who are trying to solve their problems at the expense of the people - to work for these hard workers in the people.
    1. Back in USSR
      Back in USSR 29 October 2015 07: 29 New
      0
      You offer the classical revolution: gentlemen as slaves, and slaves as gentlemen. That is, nothing will change fundamentally. Conclusion: until something changes in the head, nothing will change outside. And this will never happen. So humble yourself and live as you live, because this is the truth of life: your shirt is closer to the body.
      1. fif21
        fif21 29 October 2015 12: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: Back in USSR
        So humble yourself and live like you live
        You call for humility, but I am here for upholding my rights by all legal means. Rallies, demonstrations, strikes, lawsuits, elections ... Either the "bourgeois" will turn to face the people or they will explode, unfortunately there is no third.
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    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 29 October 2015 09: 22 New
      -1
      Quote: Tartar 174
      The situation must be changed, hard workers in the ministries, and

      And the cooks too! fellow
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 29 October 2015 11: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: Bayonet
        The situation must be changed, hard workers in the ministries, and
        And the cooks too!

        Who is against it? Bourgeois comrades! wink
        1. slaventi
          slaventi 29 October 2015 11: 57 New
          0
          What is the Central Bank for Russia ?! V. Katasonov, S. Glazyev.
      2. Tatar 174
        Tatar 174 29 October 2015 12: 18 New
        -1
        Quote: Bayonet
        And the cooks too!

        Do not! I said what I said and no more. And there are no more revolutions, everything should be according to the law and as it is now fashionable "according to garlic."
        1. Lenin
          Lenin 30 October 2015 12: 14 New
          0
          Garlic only respect garden, grown with their own hands. But I don’t understand about the laws. Is it like the constitution says that all the bowels belong to the people, but the oligarchs actually dispose of them? hi
    3. Lenin
      Lenin 30 October 2015 09: 06 New
      +1
      It's good that it builds, it's just gorgeous. And sometimes it doesn’t build, but mounts on an uncle from morning to night and lives in rented housing. And an apartment or a piece of land with a tiny hut is a pipe dream. hi By the way, this is a more real Russian scenario.
  • sa-ag
    sa-ag 29 October 2015 07: 41 New
    +5
    Siluanov is a switchman, he is only in charge of the distribution of financial flows, the article does not indicate the beneficiaries who receive these large tranches, from which the Reserve Fund is reduced, for example, banks or Rosneft
    1. Lenin
      Lenin 30 October 2015 09: 02 New
      0
      It's just that he, like that boatswain in a joke at the request of the captain, distracts people before the crash. laughing
  • Svetovod
    Svetovod 29 October 2015 07: 43 New
    +7
    -Comrades! We have big problems, we need to do something - said the creators of these problems.
  • Riv
    Riv 29 October 2015 07: 49 New
    +7
    The article was amusing. Respect to the author. The first paragraph burns with napalm: the size of the Reserving Fund is more than 70 lard dollars. Do you understand the joke? DOLLARS. And the fund is Russian.
    Did you hear the noise now? That Petrosyan fainted.
    1. anip
      anip 29 October 2015 08: 23 New
      +7
      Quote: Riv
      The first paragraph burns with napalm: the size of the Reserving Fund is more than 70 lard dollars. Do you understand the joke? DOLLARS. And the fund is Russian.

      But hurray to the Patriots, this does not stop shouting "dollar-soon-collapse."
    2. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 12: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Riv
      Did you hear the noise now? That Petrosyan fainted.

      The scribe is true .. so lies on the surface that it is not visible .. good
    3. msm
      msm 30 October 2015 11: 12 New
      0
      the amount of the Reserve Fund is more than 70 lard dollars
      Don’t open your mouth to a stranger’s stranger’s! Americans will not give ... 100 pounds!
  • vladstill03
    vladstill03 29 October 2015 08: 07 New
    +3
    Well .. the light of economic science said its weighty word, I think soon another light will be said, which we have as the Minister of Economic Development, I think its word will be about the same. It’s interesting, when all the same, at least they will give Glazyev an opportunity to do something, the impotence of the main financial officials of our state has already gotten it ..
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 29 October 2015 09: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: vladstill03
      It’s interesting when all the same, at least Glazyev will be given the opportunity to do something,

      Is this the new messiah? The last time is only heard - Glazyev, Glazyev! Well, give Glazyev an opportunity, just then you will sing it?
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 29 October 2015 12: 58 New
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        give Glazyev an opportunity, just then you will sing it?

        After all the experiments of the liberals ... it’s unlikely that we’ll be scared already ..
        1. Riv
          Riv 29 October 2015 13: 03 New
          +1
          Or maybe Glazyev will first try on mice? Or doggies? Or will he start with himself and try to live on retirement?
      2. atalef
        atalef 29 October 2015 19: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: Bayonet
        Is this the new messiah? The last time is only heard - Glazyev, Glazyev! Well, give Glazyev an opportunity, just then you will sing it?

        it is clear that. Liberal Glazyev has led the economy to a standstill. It is time to resign him from Medvedev.
        Give the Ministry of Economy - Shoigu
  • cniza
    cniza 29 October 2015 08: 12 New
    +4
    Quote: Vladimir
    Well, if this office remains in power, this may not be the case.


    They are smart? no doubt, but they are not statesmen in the professional sense, but experiments ... "out on the cats."
  • anip
    anip 29 October 2015 08: 21 New
    +3
    And they all advise to "tighten their belts."
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 29 October 2015 08: 22 New
    +5
    Dear colleagues, comrades, what do we want from rotten eggs of the government and two lawyers from the government. Domestic policy, especially economics, cadres, ideologists, the criminal procedure sphere, has been completely failed. The complete lack of professionalism, as evidenced by the speeches of experts and economists at various forums who say the comrades are not on the same path. It can be said more simply that these people cannot CREATE, they can only divide, saw and personally I am ashamed that we have such power.
  • dog1965
    dog1965 29 October 2015 08: 28 New
    +5
    At one time, Stalin had neither the Reserve Fund, nor the National Welfare Fund, and there was less gold. Yes, I had to sacrifice something from Gokhran. But the POWER has revived. And just the difference is that there was state ownership of the subsoil - the main wealth of the country. And a monopoly on foreign trade. Yes, of course, bonds were still issued - and part of the salaries was not issued in real money. But still getting the financial paper of the State and the paper of a private office are two big differences. If you are building for yourself (even if in the form of a kind of abstraction, as some people now like to express the concept of “state”), and not for the sake of a particular entrepreneur, then productivity will be better. It would be necessary to change the economy, and for this to change people in the Government. First it’s the turn to get rid of those who worship the Washington Consensus.
    Well, it is advisable to hold a referendum on the Constitution. I ask those who agree - here: http://refnod.ru
    1. slaventi
      slaventi 29 October 2015 11: 59 New
      +2
      A.I. Fursov on the nationalization of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation
  • vitya1945
    vitya1945 29 October 2015 08: 37 New
    +1
    People of such a rank as Siluanov are not put in order to multiply, but in order to subtract and divide.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 29 October 2015 10: 05 New
      +1
      There are curlers in his head, but you can’t count on more. A. Raikin.
  • killganoff
    killganoff 29 October 2015 08: 45 New
    +1
    All our misfortune is the complete absence of responsibility of our officials for their actions and inaction.
    If a person is from the Kremlin, its periphery, or just someone’s brother-in-law, then a whole ministry could collapse.

    What is the arrival of such and pop.
  • Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 29 October 2015 08: 47 New
    +1
    Why does everyone require some kind of breakthroughs from accounting? and why it is put at the forefront in the discussion development economics? Ministry of Finance serves government activities if there is an income increase program will serve and her but he will not develop and implement it, just as bookkeeping will not develop and introduce a new product in production, and whining about the limited money and exorbitant costs is the usual song of every accountant, look at each at their work, even at the micro level, but the same thing, the main thing is to do nothing to do anything not to spend.
  • Quall
    Quall 29 October 2015 08: 48 New
    +2
    Liberasty over and over again prove that they are not capable of creating in principle.
  • Wolka
    Wolka 29 October 2015 08: 50 New
    +1
    honored people, however, but it seems that in our country the power is by itself, money and finances on their own (according to a franchise from the Yankees), and the people themselves ...
  • Denis_469
    Denis_469 29 October 2015 08: 51 New
    0
    The government is what the head of state is. If Putin is zero in the economy, then where do the economists in government come from. Especially in Russia, where the willingness to commit crimes and sitting on chairs called seniority are the only selection criteria. Well, I made a little mistake, there is another selection criterion - personal loyalty.

    What was recently said and what was written in the article was personally predicted by me back in 2012. I posted the article on my site. Then some nerds told that there would be nothing. and now tongues in the ass sucked. Those who have not yet been banned.
    1. Major_Vortex
      Major_Vortex 29 October 2015 09: 21 New
      -2
      Quote: Denis_469
      The government is what the head of state is. If Putin is zero in the economy, then where do the economists in government come from. Especially in Russia, where the willingness to commit crimes and sitting on chairs called seniority are the only selection criteria. Well, I made a little mistake, there is another selection criterion - personal loyalty.

      What was recently said and what was written in the article was personally predicted by me back in 2012. I posted the article on my site. Then some nerds told that there would be nothing. and now tongues in the ass sucked. Those who have not yet been banned.

      Russia was facing serious problems regarding foreign security. Putin decided these issues as the highest priority. And the miscalculations of economists should be corrected by economists. Regarding security, it could have fallen from the South - now they are ready to take a hit. The fascist authorities of Ukraine are sleeping and seeing what other problems Russia would create, but they get tough on the teeth in a timely and tactful manner. In the near future may bomb Europe. No one knows what this will result in. But what if the new Hitler came to power? We must be prepared to reflect in this direction. Certain EU countries have put a lot of effort into organizing a coup in Ukraine during the Olympics in Russia and are now carefully covering the crimes of the Kiev regime against their citizens. Russian economists at this stage will not solve these problems in any way, therefore the economy is completely given to them. And security forces are engaged in security of the country. And what is Putin wrong about? Suggest your solution to existing problems?
      1. Denis_469
        Denis_469 29 October 2015 09: 28 New
        -5
        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
        Russia was facing serious problems regarding foreign security. Putin decided these issues as the highest priority.

        Since Russia is under the control of God, he allowed people to elect the rulers themselves, who should solve specific problems at a particular time. What you wrote was Putin's task. He dealt with it, but at the same time ruined the country's economy and refused to transfer power to the predicted king because he created a capitalist rotten economy, which then would have to be torn down. Since the modern economy of Russia is not viable. And to demolish along with all those who are now earning in it. Putin rests. And the more it rests, the worse it will be for Russia.

        Quote: Mayor_Vikhr
        And what is Putin wrong about? Suggest your solution to existing problems?

        I write my version on my website in my program of action for the future. And what Putin is wrong, I wrote now a little higher. He did his job and had to leave. He refused to leave and went punishment for the country.
        1. Major_Vortex
          Major_Vortex 29 October 2015 09: 32 New
          +3
          Quote: Denis_469
          Since Russia is under the control of God

          It is hard to imagine a more idiotic answer. The security of Russia lies exclusively on the shoulders of the Russians. I didn’t set the minus.
        2. Kyrgyz
          Kyrgyz 29 October 2015 12: 05 New
          0
          Quote: Denis_469
          Since Russia is under the control of God

          There is a god, but he’s not bad laughing
          Based on your postulate, the program of action will be extraordinary
          1. Major_Vortex
            Major_Vortex 29 October 2015 13: 36 New
            0
            Quote: Kyrgyz
            There is a god, but he’s not bad
            Based on your postulate, the program of action will be extraordinary

            God may be different for everyone. And those who fight "in the name of God" - fight the whole history and with everyone they can reach. I hope you don’t need to point with a finger exactly who I mean. God must be in the soul of man, and not in arms.
  • SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 29 October 2015 08: 54 New
    0
    Oh you! Silouast you, uh to rotterdam you! Find you on the board!
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 29 October 2015 09: 16 New
    +2
    It suits the GDP. Why???!!!!!
    Quote: snifer
    put cons, throw bonnets in the air, but it’s time for the whole government to dismiss.
  • astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 29 October 2015 09: 23 New
    +4
    The groans and moans of the shit-economists are explained simply. All ended the wealth of the USSR, acquired and multiplied by our grandfathers and fathers! A variety of hermits, Berezovskys, Abramovichs and others dragged the country according to their minks. And there’s nothing more to take! ! It’s easier to take a pretty penny from the people! And you don’t need to think! And it’s simple and convenient! And one more medal (house behind the cordon) !!!!
  • Stoler
    Stoler 29 October 2015 09: 26 New
    +1
    Yes, everything is fine, the people responsible for the economy are goons and cry for every penny allocated!
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    2. Mechanic
      Mechanic 29 October 2015 10: 00 New
      +2
      The trouble is that these people are not responsible for anything.
  • Chulman
    Chulman 29 October 2015 09: 37 New
    +1
    "The reserve fund will definitely cease to exist, forcing it to completely forget about the" fat years. "
    What kind of such "fat years" are we talking about? Absolutely fucked !!!
    You should drink less!!! Shoot everyone like mad dogs !!!
    1. Denis_469
      Denis_469 29 October 2015 09: 55 New
      0
      Quote: Chulman
      Shoot everyone like mad dogs !!!

      I suggest you start with yourself. Since these ministers were appointed by Putin, who was chosen by the people. And so the people who chose Putin for the 3rd term, and must answer. All these United Russia, front-line members and other zaputintsy. Putin is elected by the people - those who have chosen him on the board must answer with their heads.
      1. astronom1973n
        astronom1973n 29 October 2015 12: 07 New
        +3
        Hmm .. And you can ask who he was in the previous elections and a real competitor, I emphasize a real competitor. Zyuganov or Mironov, aaa probably Zhirinovsky lol I mean, there weren’t any worthy ones in the elections. That's where they voted ... and the competitors are just empty balalaika. They’re just scamming, but to no avail! I don’t take into account American proteges of bulk and others. So who should I give your voice then?
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 October 2015 10: 11 New
      0
      The fat years are 2007 and 2008, when oil was worth $ 120 per barrel.
  • GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 29 October 2015 09: 45 New
    +5
    Well, at last the criminals have officially announced when they will dump to their estates to the west, but as long as there is a pillow, we can soar our brains that there is “no crisis” and “small business is supported”
  • askort154
    askort154 29 October 2015 10: 00 New
    +5
    I was justified by Medvedev’s statement the other day - “we will index pensions so far by 4%, and in six months we’ll see how
    the economy will behave. Perhaps we will index again. "The head of government lives on plans for six months ?!
    Our government has perfectly learned one thing, to dance to the tune of fluctuations in oil prices. Why do I need a government that can not confidently say what will happen to the economy of my country in six months ?!
    1. Denis_469
      Denis_469 29 October 2015 10: 06 New
      0
      Quote: askort154
      The head of government lives on plans for six months ?!

      Yes, for half a year already, since the economy is collapsing and it is no longer possible to predict even a year in advance. Here the budget was cut from a three-year to a one-year budget for 2016. And then they will have to cut the deadlines again and adopt budgets for half a year already. And then for each month separately. Capitalism however.
      1. vovan089
        vovan089 29 October 2015 11: 04 New
        +3
        I think in the near future the entire Ministry of Finance with crayons in hand will "plan" the budget for every day.