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There are no Chinese interests in Syria

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In strategic terms, the Chinese are not interested in Syria. The main interests of China are concentrated in the Asia-Pacific region. Beijing is not going to send troops to support Russia's military operation in Syria, but it boldly responds to Washington, advising to refrain from "rash actions" in the South China Sea.




As reported on October 27 RIA News", Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi, commenting on the information about sending the US destroyer to the shores of the disputed islands of Nansha (Spratly) in the South China Sea, called on Washington to refrain from "rash actions."

“We are now checking relevant information, if this is true, then we urge the American side to think carefully about their upcoming steps, not to take rash actions and not to create an incident from scratch,” said the Chinese minister.

On the same day, it became known that the American destroyer Lassen was patrolling the 12-mile zone of artificial islands built by China in the Spratly archipelago in the South China Sea. This was reported by the radio "Satellite".

Military expert Boris Podoprigora considers sending an American ship to the South China Sea an element of the US propaganda strategy: “In principle, Americans have always conducted similar actions under the guise of routine patrols. In fact, it is above all an element of the US foreign-propaganda strategy, which is called the “display of flags”. This is necessary in order not to forget. For the US, this is a common routine element of their foreign policy activities. ”

The expert believes that such actions are unlikely to provoke a conflict.

According to the Chinese Foreign Ministry, writes RIA News", the Chinese side "tracked down, pursued and made a warning" to the American destroyer.

“The Chinese side tracked down, pursued and made a warning to the American ship. And we reserve the right to take further action, ”said Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kahn at the briefing.

But how far can China go in its actions? Lu Kahn declined to comment on the topic of military power: "I do not want to make comments on such hypothetical questions."

But China has no ambiguities with Syria. None If the islands in the sea are interested in China, and Beijing says to Washington: “Do not indulge” (although there is no fight, as we predicted at “VO”), then the Syria of the Celestial is not needed. Peking is not planning to help Russians there.

В "The Hindu" recently published an article by Atula Anedzhi. Her author refers to a recent commentary on the website of the Ministry of Defense of China. There it says, the journalist notes that the main interests of Beijing are concentrated in the Asia-Pacific region, and not in Western Asia.

Celestial prefers to focus on the Asia-Pacific region. As for Syria, the Chinese are afraid to get bogged down in a conflict that flares up far from Chinese borders.

In a fairly frank article posted on the website of the Chinese Ministry of Defense, there are four main factors that serve as an obstacle to sending Chinese troops to support Russia, which is at war with terrorists in Syria.

“All the wars that the troops of the People’s Republic of China have waged over the past 60 over the years,” the site reports, “took place on the border or in neighboring countries. The Middle East is so remote from China that most Chinese do not believe that these territories have any direct relation to the fundamental interests of China. The author of the material refers to an unnamed "scientists."

Any dispatch of troops to Syria will create a “comprehensive challenge” to China’s security.

The commentary also makes it clear that Chinese troops will not take part in the war in Western Asia. The fight against the militants of the "Islamic State" without the sanction of the UN Security Council for China is unacceptable.

It is noted that the United States was the first to launch strikes against the grouping, and now Russia is also delivering strikes. The relevant decisions were taken by these two states. It is unlikely that China will participate in the war in the Middle East without UN permission, the commentary says.

Finally, China has some military restrictions, in particular, the PRC has no military bases abroad. Fears of being stuck in a remote conflict are an important factor, which is a definite obstacle to the deployment of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) in Syria. Troops are easy to send there, but it will take a “huge” support system to get them out of there.

In this regard, the following is noted: in order to play a leading or at least a supporting role in military intervention, a systematic replenishment of the resource base is required, and China, “if we must be frank,” is not capable of that. He also lacks allies in the region, he does not have a military base there, but such bases are “indispensable” for conducting long-range military interventions.

And why is China distant Syria? The PRC is not the cause of the situation in Syria, and therefore Beijing has no reason to participate in the conflict there, the commentary notes.

The author of The Hindu also reports that a representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China has already rejected the suggestion that the Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning was allegedly sent to the region in order to support Russian military operations in Syria.

The latter is quite official information, add from myself. Two weeks ago, the major Russian media reported on the statement by the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the PRC, Hua Chunying. She denied reports of some publications about China’s intentions to send Liaoning to the shores of Syria.

“We paid attention to the fact that lately there have been a lot of rumors and reports about China’s involvement (in the situation) in Syria. According to my data, there are no such plans. For example, the aircraft carrier "Liaoning" is still used for scientific purposes ", - quotes Hua Chunying RIA News".

The only thing that China is doing as a strategic partner of Russia is, in words, supporting the operation of Moscow in Syria. The other day, the Chinese state publication China Daily, which at the international level voiced the official position of Beijing, spoke in support of the Russian military operation in Syria. This was reported by the magazine "Expert".

The China Daily notes that Moscow’s participation in the fight against ISIS can make a significant contribution to international efforts to combat terrorism in the Middle East. The publication believes that military intervention by Moscow is a reasonable strategic step against the background of the ineffectiveness of the US maneuvers in the region over the past few years.

The conclusion is very simple: China will pursue a certain strategy in the zone of artificial islands in the South China Sea and will not intervene in conflicts, participation in which does not promise Beijing any benefits and is dangerous.

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  1. avvg
    avvg 29 October 2015 06: 20 New
    +6
    Where necessary, China helps us, instead of building BRICS towers, it’s a sin to complain.
    1. USSR 1971
      USSR 1971 29 October 2015 06: 41 New
      14
      Chinese interests are everywhere. It can be indirectly, but everywhere. The country claims at least a place in the top three world leaders.
      They just don’t climb into someone else’s garden with their stick. Surely their military men are studying the tactics of action and war techniques on the example of Syria, their economists consider the conjuncture of the energy market taking into account Middle East events, etc.
      They are smarter than many, the Chinese then. Smarter than many tolerant Europeans.
      Yes, and do not forget how many of them ...
    2. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 29 October 2015 07: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: avvg
      China where it is necessary

      Where you need it ONLY!
      1. edge
        edge 31 October 2015 18: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Saratoga833
        Where you need it ONLY!

        China will need Syria after the war, when it will have somewhere to invest money without the risk of losing it, so they will wait for the RUSSIANS to do all the dirty work.
    3. 222222
      222222 29 October 2015 15: 54 New
      +2
      Китайских интересов в Сирии нет"

      ..Any increase in the influence of the United States in any region of the world is thereby an indirect violation of the interests of China ..
      1. Talgat
        Talgat 29 October 2015 18: 44 New
        +2
        Syria of the Middle Kingdom is not needed

        It is not true. Most analysts write the opposite

        China needs Iran as a source of oil and an ally. Russia is the same-needed. And China does not need a geopolitical enemy to defeat Iran and appear right in the heart of Central Asia in the Caspian Sea - a wave of terror and separatists will instantly affect both Tibet and the Uyghur regions of China

        Another thing. that Chinese troops and the navy are busy with another - confront the United States and Japan in the Pacific Ocean - is also a necessary thing
        1. edge
          edge 31 October 2015 18: 05 New
          0
          Quote: Talgat
          Another thing. that Chinese troops and navy are busy with another - confront the United States and Japan in the Pacific

          they don’t confront, they provoke to noise. While Russia and Amers clashed in a massacre, they strive to steal a piece of cheese, albeit a little, but it’s nice and useful.
    4. Catafract
      Catafract 31 October 2015 05: 47 New
      0
      Quote: avvg
      China helps us where necessary

      China helps itself and only, and it is advisable to learn from smart people, and not to build from itself a hyperup of the earth having a destroyed economy.
    5. atalef
      atalef 31 October 2015 18: 21 New
      0
      Quote: avvg
      Where necessary, China helps us, instead of building BRICS towers, it’s a sin to complain.

      China has never helped anyone. He never gave anything to anyone. He never entered into any alliances with anyone (wherever he played a leading role). Never (in the whole history of China, he sent troops to seize territories outside China. (Do not mention Damansky and Siberia - China considers them their)
      China only thinks about China. This is his policy, this is his position, this is his mentality.
      He is Syria since the drum. Nothing to take from her. And it will be necessary to take, he will come and buy after the mess.
      China has always shot foams, and will continue.
      Do not try to drag China into some kind of geopolitical war. China is so huge that no one will fight with it, and the rest is on the drum.
      I wrote about this, half a year ago, but everyone here reveling - We will break ISIS with China, We will break America with China.
      China will not participate in this. Especially with someone.
  2. svp67
    svp67 29 October 2015 06: 24 New
    +2
    The conclusion is very simple: China will pursue a certain strategy in the zone of artificial islands in the South China Sea and will not intervene in conflicts, participation in which does not promise Beijing any benefits and is dangerous.
    Пока просто у них не хватит не сил не средств и в Сирии отметится и "острова защитить".
    And the fact that they have no interests in Syria, so they have it there. It’s just that China is waiting and not spraying forces.
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 29 October 2015 06: 26 New
    +6
    And why does China need distant Syria?That's right .. why the PRC is the Syrian coast ..? Political support from the PRC is also sufficient .. But it should be noted .. During the events of 1979-1985, the PRC supplied actively Dushmans, through Pakistan, with weapons ..
    1. Junior, I
      Junior, I 29 October 2015 06: 46 New
      +2
      Then we had not very friendly relations with China
      1. edge
        edge 31 October 2015 18: 08 New
        0
        Цитата: Младшой, Я
        Then we had not very friendly relations with China

        but are they now friendly .....? they just want to fuck from Russia.
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. Mera joota
      Mera joota 29 October 2015 07: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      China supplied and actively dushmans, through Pakistan, weapons ..

      Afghanistan in China’s area of ​​interest. The Chinese squeezed the United States out of Pakistan, squeezing the Russian Federation out of Central Asia. They know how to wait, in the end Afghanistan is destined to become Chinese.
      1. edge
        edge 31 October 2015 18: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Mera Joota
        in the end, Afghanistan is destined to become Chinese.

        et unlikely, do not discount India ....
  4. Junior, I
    Junior, I 29 October 2015 06: 31 New
    +1
    China has its own interest. And the great silk road that they want to revive! svp67 correctly said!
  5. ImPerts
    ImPerts 29 October 2015 06: 34 New
    +1
    In principle, it is beneficial to the Russian Federation. In addition to Asia-Pacific, China has interests in Africa. This and our actions in Syria make the US work on several fronts. Even from Afghanistan they were not able to leave the poor, they had to stay and spend energy. Most likely, Iraq will have to return.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 29 October 2015 13: 48 New
      +2
      Разделение "труда" между РФ и КНР определённо есть.... Не зря Путин не сильно парится за усиление ТОФ,основной упор делает на ЧФ,СФ,Каспий....На Балтику тоже не сильно парится,большая часть береговой линии на Балтике уже за странами НАТО(прибалтийским "тиграм" отдельное "спасибо"),тоесть Балтика из себя представляет ловушку,простреливаемую со всех сторон....
  6. venaya
    venaya 29 October 2015 06: 46 New
    +1
    China has some restrictions in the military sphere, in particular, China has no military bases abroad

    And without this, talking about the possibility of state influence on the military-political situation in the world is generally pointless. The Chinese economy cannot be turned downhill; there is always the possibility of limiting such actions. Here we would have to raise our economy, there you look and the decisions of other issues that are still difficult for us to pull themselves together.
    1. edge
      edge 31 October 2015 18: 13 New
      0
      Quote: venaya
      China has some restrictions in the military sphere, in particular, China has no military bases abroad

      they can easily use ours, as well as by agreement of our partners (Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela .....)
  7. 3 Gorynych
    3 Gorynych 29 October 2015 06: 51 New
    0
    Quote: svp67
    The conclusion is very simple: China will pursue a certain strategy in the zone of artificial islands in the South China Sea and will not intervene in conflicts, participation in which does not promise Beijing any benefits and is dangerous.
    Пока просто у них не хватит не сил не средств и в Сирии отметится и "острова защитить".
    And the fact that they have no interests in Syria, so they have it there. It’s just that China is waiting and not spraying forces.

    If you carefully listen to and read the news, then China has interest in Syria. but how true Asians wait. And for the part that they do not have the strength and means is in vain, do not forget the performance characteristics of the Chinese army.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 29 October 2015 13: 53 New
      -4
      At one time, the Russian Empire abandoned Alaska because of geography (far away, but across the sea yet), for the development of Alaska stupidly there would not be enough technical, financial, human resources .....
      1. Balagan
        Balagan 29 October 2015 17: 47 New
        +1
        There were many factors. And the Crimean War showed the weakness of the defense of the Far East; fortunately, the defenders of Petropavlovsk turned out to be not made a finger. And CANCER (Russian-American company) became unprofitable. And the money for the development of the south of the Far East was needed, after all, Vladivostok and the entire Amur Region seemed to the government more promising than Alaska. And so forth, etc., etc.
        1. Karlovar
          Karlovar 29 October 2015 17: 56 New
          0
          Well, what am I talking about ????
  8. fa2998
    fa2998 29 October 2015 07: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: svp67
    strategy in the zone of artificial islands in the South China Sea and will not intervene in conflicts

    I don’t know if there is OIL in the area of ​​artificial islands, but now every second tanker going from the Persian Gulf goes to China. So, China is vitally interested in affairs in the Middle East. The opposition of Sunnis and Shiites, the activity of terrorists can dramatically affect the price of oil . hi
  9. Mera joota
    Mera joota 29 October 2015 07: 32 New
    +3
    Does China Have Interest in the Middle East? Sure, they just don't advertise it. Why fight if others do it for them? The USA fought with Saddam, then got bogged down in a guerrilla war, thousands of Americans died, and Iraqi oil went to the Chinese. Without a single shot. Without the participation of the Chinese military. In Syria, it will be the same as soon as the war ends and the parties dividing the country will lick their wounds, the Chinese will appear with a lot of money and investment projects. Having lost a lot of money, Russia and the United States will sadly watch how the Chinese enjoy the fruits of their activities ....
  10. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 29 October 2015 07: 42 New
    +3
    China's strategy is based on waiting and avoiding sudden movements. They will achieve everything with a quiet glanders and waiting and what they want and will achieve.
  11. sa-ag
    sa-ag 29 October 2015 07: 45 New
    +4
    у Китая "внезапно" проявится интерес, когда начнется восстановление разрушенного жилья, офисных зданий, объектов инфраструктуры и т.д.
  12. Denis DV
    Denis DV 29 October 2015 08: 09 New
    +1
    China has its own smut, with the construction of a canal under the belly of the United States. If a Chinese military base appears abroad, then most likely in Cuba hi
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 29 October 2015 13: 58 New
      +1
      Why in Cuba ??? In Nicaragua itself .... The channel will need to be protected from the sea, and from the air, and from land .... Cheaper the base will be in Nicaragua, without leaving the box office, so to speak ...
    2. edge
      edge 31 October 2015 18: 16 New
      0
      Quote: Denis DV
      China has its own smut, with the construction of a canal under the belly of the United States. If a Chinese military base appears abroad, then most likely in Cuba

      rather in the Nicaragua Canal, then you need to guard and loot from him to nip.
  13. cniza
    cniza 29 October 2015 08: 16 New
    +2
    China also has their citizens fighting on the side of the IG.
    1. edge
      edge 31 October 2015 18: 18 New
      0
      Quote: cniza
      China also has their citizens fighting on the side of the IG.

      from half a million Uigurs definitely ...
  14. Servla
    Servla 29 October 2015 08: 21 New
    +2
    With such allies and enemies is not necessary. The Chinese need to beware ... They are like a tiger in a zoo - quiet, calm, and when you get closer to a cage, they will bite you and you will not notice.
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 October 2015 08: 39 New
    +3
    do not take rash actions and do not create an incident from scratch

    Когда дело касается личных интересов Китая и нац безопасности - он может быть жестко прямолинейным и предпринимать определенные меры. В остальном Китай просто "хитрый". Но не надо забывать, что в настоящее время (в т.ч. и по сирийскому вопросу) китайцы нас поддерживают морально и на дипломатическом уровне. И за это спасибо.
  16. Uzzy
    Uzzy 29 October 2015 09: 00 New
    +1
    China will pursue a certain strategy in the zone of artificial islands in the South China Sea and will not intervene in conflicts, participation in which does not promise Beijing any benefits and is dangerous.

    It is reasonable and also liked that the Chinese, without ambition, acknowledge the insufficiency of the resource base for military operations abroad. But it’s still dangerous that China is not our military ally and that he’s not going to help us ... As if then interests would not shift from the South China Sea to Russia.
  17. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 29 October 2015 09: 38 New
    0
    Если кто-то где-то решает провести "демонстрацию флага", то это уже признак того, что "интересы есть". Даже при условии, если эти интересы не входят в число первостепенных...
    So they are cunning comrades from the Middle Kingdom. Oh, how they are cunning ...

    But this is viewed solely in the light of the Syrian problem, as such ... However, the Han have one big (just huge) interest in the Middle East. This is Iran, from which oil is imported into the Middle Kingdom. And the one is now tied in a tight knot with Syria ...
    Так что если смотреть с этой стороны, то у "великого" Китая важные интересы есть не только в Южно-Китайском море. Ибо обеспечение энергетической безопастности страны это одна из ключевая задача любого правительства. А здесь Поднебесная без иранской нефти пока не туда и не сюда...

    Да, пока что наши внешнеполитические и геополитические интересы с "великим" Китаем совпадают в большинстве случаев. Но это совершенно не значит, что так будет продолжаться вечно. Тем более, что заявление о том, что "китайская армия воевала только с государствами с которыми непосредственно граничит" оставляет неприятный осадок...
  18. DMB_95
    DMB_95 29 October 2015 10: 30 New
    0
    Quote: parusnik
    And why does China need distant Syria?That's right .. why the PRC is the Syrian coast ..? It is enough and political support from the PRC .. But it should be noted ..

    It should be noted that on the territory of the PRC, not far from Afghanistan, there is a Uigur region with a Muslim population. The Chinese have repeatedly had to forcefully suppress the Uyghurs. And now there probably already are ISIS cells there ... It's just that, thanks to Russia and Syria, ISIS is now not up to China.
  19. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 29 October 2015 11: 12 New
    +3
    Before the civil war in Syria, China planned to stretch
    train highway from the Persian Gulf to the Mediterranean Sea.
    В рамках их глобального проекта "2-ой Шелковый путь". Порт
    by the sea was conceived in Syria. But ... no luck.
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 29 October 2015 12: 14 New
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Port
      by the sea was conceived in Syria. But ... no luck

      А если бы "порт был задуман" в Израиле, то... повезло?..
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Before the civil war in Syria, China planned to stretch
      train highway from the Persian Gulf to the Mediterranean Sea

      И это лишний раз подтверждает, что интерес к Ближнему Востоку у "великого" Китая далеко не платонический... Так что, как я и озвучил выше...
      Quote: Chicot 1
      cunning comrades from the Middle Kingdom. Oh, how they are cunning ...

      ... and moreover, they are doing it rather cheeky and not blushing ...
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 29 October 2015 12: 49 New
        +1
        "А если бы "порт был задуман" в Израиле, то... повезло?."////

        Sure! Port on Pan-Asian Railway - this is big money to the treasury,
        luck for any country.
        Но Китай не задумывал провести "Шелковый путь" через Израиль - из-за
        Arab boycott.
  20. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 29 October 2015 11: 16 New
    +1
    China's international and domestic position is respectable!
    You need to understand your borders. Close border states must be pulled up.
    For Russia, this is Ukraine (lost), Georgia (lost), Moldova (lost), the countries of Central Asia (almost gone to China). Remains Armenia and Belarus.
    Inside you need to clean up. KGB officials can only sign on the bulletins and steal secretly. They were taught this once in their youth.
    I don't care about Syria. Desert according to current reports. There on the border of Israel. This is his problems. Let him understand this mess. Himself for your own or American money. But not for the money of Russia!
    Oil had to be refined and sold on the domestic market. Oil and gas.
    Sanctions announced. They cut off oil and gas pipelines to the garden. Europe, Ukraine, who else is there?
    Winter is already on the nose. Let them pick their nose with their refugees!
    The country must be dealt with!
    And then the news, damn it! They bombed, Ukraine, shot, inflation rose, the exchange rate rose. Weather under the pill from overweight! Are they bullied or no brains? )))
  21. RoTTor
    RoTTor 29 October 2015 14: 50 New
    +1
    Wonderful!!! A clear distinction between spheres of interests and spheres of influence between the Russian Federation and China is a guarantee of the absence of conflicts between our fraternal countries.
    But we have a common enemy - the United States and its European lackeys.
  22. Megatron
    Megatron 29 October 2015 15: 50 New
    -1
    Again, the angry clucking of China, at the expense of the islands, which will not be supported by any actions, neither economic, nor even military.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 29 October 2015 18: 00 New
      0
      Military operations a couple of months ago at the American base in Okinawa were already ... in response to military operations in the Tianjin port .... Not in the know ???
  23. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 29 October 2015 15: 56 New
    +2
    Quote: Karlovar
    Разделение "труда" между РФ и КНР определённо есть.... Не зря Путин не сильно парится за усиление ТОФ,основной упор делает на ЧФ,СФ,Каспий....На Балтику тоже не сильно парится,большая часть береговой линии на Балтике уже за странами НАТО(прибалтийским "тиграм" отдельное "спасибо"),тоесть Балтика из себя представляет ловушку,простреливаемую со всех сторон....

    right. Baltic covered roof.
  24. Urri
    Urri 29 October 2015 16: 04 New
    +1
    Мемуары Шеленберга стоит почитать. Там Шеленберг писал, что Янке указывал в 41-м году Гиммлеру и Гитлеру на стратегическую ошибку относительно Китая и Японии, стратегией которых всегда оставался лозунг "Азия для азиатов". Европа и её дела их не интересовали. Похоже, кое кто готов повторить стратегическую ошибку немцев. Я понимаю, что прошло 75 лет, что планета изменилась. Но всё таки...
  25. DAYMAN
    DAYMAN 29 October 2015 16: 52 New
    +3
    The Chinese are cunning .... they care about everything!
  26. Balagan
    Balagan 29 October 2015 17: 40 New
    0
    Maybe they are cunning. Or maybe BB and comrade. Xi agreed who muddies which seas so that the mattress does not dry out yes
  27. mivail
    mivail 29 October 2015 21: 49 New
    0
    Quote: Karlovar
    Why in Cuba ??? In Nicaragua itself .... The channel will need to be protected from the sea, and from the air, and from land .... Cheaper the base will be in Nicaragua, without leaving the box office, so to speak ...

    Охрана и защита строящегося канала будет осуществляться Россией, разделение труда однако, Китай строит, мы охраняем. Наши военные базы под боком у матрасников головняк по существеннее китайского. Да ещё и станции глонасс там же размещать будут, а их тоже надо охранять от доброжелателей и заклятых "друзей".