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Rosoboronexport: Indian authorities are considering the possibility of purchasing Russian Ka-226 helicopters

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The head of Rosoboronexport, Anatoly Isaikin, said at a press conference that the Indian authorities are considering the possibility of purchasing a batch of Russian Ka-226 helicopters and launching their production in the country.




“According to the results of the tender, the Indian side is interested in acquiring Ka-226 helicopters and creating their own production. The Russian side is ready to transfer technology to India ", - RIA quotes him as saying "News".

India and the Russian Federation are the largest partners in the field of military-technical cooperation: more than 70% of military equipment, weapons of the Indian army Navy, Air Force - Soviet and Russian production.

According to the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, in 2014, India purchased military equipment from the Russian Federation and weapons on 4.7 billion dollars, in 2013-m - on 4.78 billion.
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 28 October 2015 07: 02 New
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    Well done, they buy not only equipment but also technology. Apparently going to arm new ships.
    1. Windy
      Windy 28 October 2015 07: 08 New
      +2
      No, the Ka-226 is generally useless for ships, it has a different purpose.
      1. Maxom75
        Maxom75 28 October 2015 08: 59 New
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        They were looking for a small modular helicopter to work in desert and mountainous areas. It was to become the basis of the service of rescue and evacuation of the army. only in my opinion they already decided to buy it, and now they think again. (
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 28 October 2015 07: 18 New
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      Quote: Teberii
      Well done, they buy not only equipment but also technology.

      They’ll have beautiful helicopters, probably ... laughing
    3. Samaritan
      Samaritan 28 October 2015 11: 56 New
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      Great, here's a video ... with the pilot "bully" lol
  2. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 October 2015 07: 07 New
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    The tortuosity of the thoughts of our Indian partners is known to us. Today they review, tomorrow they revise ... The helicopter is - cool! Heir to the K-26, proven over many years of operation. The static ceiling is already very good, for mountains - that’s it, but this goodness in India is enough.
    I will be glad if our helicopter wins the tender. We are not a gas station!
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 28 October 2015 07: 07 New
    +8
    "Novosti" for at least six months, it has already been sucked at least three times here.
  4. V.ic
    V.ic 28 October 2015 07: 16 New
    +3
    "Novost" has already managed to grow overgrown with moss. By the way, if the Indians themselves produce the Ka-226, it will boomerang the sales markets of these, frankly, not bad helicopters, in the Russian Federation.
    1. mgvalaev
      mgvalaev 28 October 2015 07: 34 New
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      Vryatli will hit. We will have different requirements for helicopters, but the inuses want to release them for themselves, and while they learn how to assemble them, if necessary, we slap ourselves as much as necessary. )))
      1. gjv
        gjv 28 October 2015 10: 51 New
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        Quote: mgvalaev
        if necessary, we slap ourselves as much as necessary. )))

        How much do you need? Interest Ask. For some reason, the Ministry of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation "rushes" - it wants to order a certain amount, then it refuses ... And the FSB is only planning to order 10 pieces for border guards. A total of 1997 units have been produced since 69. This is 5-6 pieces per year on average, but in reality in 2013 only one, in 2014 in general 0. The maximum productivity of the plant in Kumertau is 20 Ka-226T machines per year (this is declared, in reality IMHO 15 - 16 pieces).
        Hindus also want to build a powerful plant with access to the annual production of 400 helicopters!
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 28 October 2015 13: 47 New
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          Quote: gjv
          in 2014, generally 0.

          You offend ...! As of December 1, 2014 there were 6 pcs. Only "ts-s-s" (no one!).
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          2. gjv
            gjv 28 October 2015 17: 32 New
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            I didn’t want to offend. This is really classified information (for me). However, if it’s been disclosed, you can tell me where they were made. On KumAAP or on Arrow? What are the serial and side numbers? recourse
            1. V.ic
              V.ic 29 October 2015 06: 39 New
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              Quote: gjv
              On KumAAP or on Arrow?

              To the north.
              Quote: gjv
              What are the serial and side numbers?

              The song is recalled:
              "And he shoves me money and a glass of pearls
              And he proposes to issue a plan to the plant council ... "
              Another text was there:
              "Soviet raspberries converged on advice
              Soviet raspberries said to the enemy - no! "
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 28 October 2015 07: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: V.ic
      Yes, by the way, if the Indians themselves produce the Ka-226, then this will boomerangly hit the volume of markets for these, frankly, not bad helicopters in the Russian Federation.

      Given their population and the size of the country, they would first have to saturate their market
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 28 October 2015 10: 29 New
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        Quote: APASUS
        Given their population and the size of the country, they would first have to saturate their market

        Yeah! To every Indian by helicopter! To the brahmanas, three in one hand, and to the ksatriyas, two ... Sudras ... to forbid! True, Ms. Indira, like a caste, has canceled (yes, people haven’t gone anywhere)!
  5. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 28 October 2015 07: 33 New
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    I don’t know how much profit we can get from the sale of helicopters, but I would very much like cooperation with India in the pharmaceutical industry to be restored.
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    2. gjv
      gjv 28 October 2015 20: 38 New
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      Quote: olimpiada15
      I don’t know how much profit we sell helicopters

      Quote: Old26
      Profitable to buy (or offered the best conditions)

      According to Rotorhub, in three months, starting July 1, 2015, operators and leasing companies ordered 93 civilian helicopters. In essence, today they buy “one helicopter a day”! Among the manufacturers, as it should be, the leader in the world helicopter industry Airbus Helicopters is ahead - 55 orders (or almost 60%). In second place - AgustaWestland 35 orders (37,5%). It turns out that European helicopter manufacturers have captured the civilian helicopter market (97,5%)!

      Buyers' preferences were distributed as follows: single-engine light helicopters almost 30%, two-engine light / medium / medium + 68%.

      Russian contribution: received 3 orders for Ka-32A11BC, ordered 10 AW189 (Rosneft).

      It is interesting that in a number of orders (rigidly) the types of helicopters are not defined, the so-called “flexible” orders, when the specification of the volumes of one or another type will be as it is executed. This approach opens up additional opportunities for buyers. Today, helicopter builders are constantly looking for new forms and methods to best meet the needs of their customers.
  6. dvg79
    dvg79 28 October 2015 07: 42 New
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    Is it possible that enlightenment has descended on the Indians, or our rollback is promised more.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 28 October 2015 09: 18 New
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      They need a lightweight and hardy helicopter with a modular bay and Turbomekhi which they themselves produce. So they chose Ka-226.
      1. gjv
        gjv 28 October 2015 12: 21 New
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        Quote: donavi49
        The turbo-furry that they themselves produce

        Interesting information. Where is she from? Where is it produced?
        HAL factories in Bangalore produce Adour MK 871, Adour MK 804 E, Garrett TPE 331-5, RD-33, AL-31 FP, Shakti, Artouste III B, PTAE-7, LM 2500, Dart 533 - 2, Dart 536 - 2T, Orpheus 70105, AvonMK 1, AvonMK 109, AvonMK 203/207, Gnome 1400 - IT.
        About the production in India, the Arrius 2G1 Turbomeca has not been heard.
  7. Old26
    Old26 28 October 2015 08: 13 New
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    Quote: dvg79
    Is it possible that enlightenment has descended on the Indians, or our rollback is promised more.

    We should already forget about the time when India bought weapons exclusively from us. They are now trying to diversify suppliers so as not to be tied to one country. It is profitable to buy (or offered the best conditions) - they buy from us, someone suggested the best conditions - from them. Now they are buying helicopters not only from us, but also in the USA, SAMs not only from us, but also in Israel, fighters not only from us, but also from the French ...
    1. avt
      avt 28 October 2015 08: 59 New
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      Quote: Old26
      We should already forget about the time when India bought weapons exclusively from us.

      laughing It’s about what kind of "time" wept! ??? When was such a time? In what kind of India? Like in another dimension? Or another galaxy? laughing Indians have ALWAYS "diversified" their arms supplies.
  8. 31rus
    31rus 28 October 2015 08: 15 New
    +4
    My grandmother said for two, the Indians are muddy guys, they will think, and then refuse, they don’t need a helicopter, but as technology has rightly pointed out, lately we are ready to sell ALL Russia, I wonder what in return? Fantasies that ultimately end up in US securities
  9. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 28 October 2015 08: 23 New
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    On the one hand, the assembly in India is good, the Hindus will not soon learn how to assemble well in their factories. Their national helicopter, the Hindus have not learned how to assemble correctly. Therefore, they will buy car kits from us. A big plus is that, with large-scale production, ours will finally make a domestic helicopter engine.
  10. Old26
    Old26 28 October 2015 09: 06 New
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    Quote: avt
    This is about what kind of "time" wept! ??? When such a time was that? In what kind of India? Like in another dimension? Or another galaxy? The Indians ALWAYS "diversified" the supply of weapons.

    In the same, when the bulk was still bought from us. The same deliveries of aircraft, when the MIG aircraft were overwhelming, if the tanks were ours, then the helicopters too. Maybe I really put it a little clumsily, but now diversification is more relevant than before. Now India does not focus only on Russia, compared to 70-80, when the percentage of Soviet equipment was very high
    1. avt
      avt 28 October 2015 09: 47 New
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      Quote: Old26
      In the same, when the bulk was still bought from us.

      Oh-oh-oh-oh! Already progress! No longer "exclusively", already "the bulk". Well, the trouble is the beginning - not really happy, you look interest will show up and you want to learn more about the types of aircraft in particular and about the number, about submarines, well, of course, the lease of nuclear-powered ones - here the USSR / Russia really had an exclusive they have not brought to mind. And there you can already compare
      Quote: Old26
      from 70-80, when the percentage of Soviet technology was very high

      with the current time.
  11. samoletil18
    samoletil18 28 October 2015 10: 46 New
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    Interestingly, will we develop our own engines for the Russian market or will we exchange them for car kits and install Indian Turbomeks? This is not an idle question; with engine building, everything is not rosy with us.
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    2. gjv
      gjv 28 October 2015 12: 27 New
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      Quote: samoletil18
      This is not an idle question; with engine building, everything is not rosy with us.

      There is information that in addition to the American and French, the Ukrainian turboshaft engines AI-226 ZMKB "Progress" them. AG Ivchenko and domestic VK-450 JSC "Klimov".
      Allison 250-C20R / 2 - 589 x 528 x 986 mm, 78 kg, 380-450 hp;
      Arrius 2G1 - 641 x 482 x 973 mm, 113,8 kg, 426-518 hp;
      AI-450 - 635 x 554 x 965 mm, 115 kg, 300-465 hp;
      VK-800 - 580 x 590 x 1000 mm, 140 kg, 450-800 hp
      The VK-800 is a bit heavier, as it is more powerful, but its size is not much different.
      And on the website of the Russian Ministry of Defense, the Ka-226 is indeed listed with American engines, and for some reason the same on the Mi-8PPA. And ANSAT-U also has American Pratt Whitney PK206C.
      Why all the same Klimov Can't arrange production of VK-800 in any way? Sadly, right down to green.
  12. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 28 October 2015 12: 27 New
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    “According to the results of the tender, the Indian side is interested in acquiring Ka-226 helicopters and creating their own production. The Russian side is ready for technology transfer to India, ”RIA Novosti quoted him as saying.


    The organization of tenders in India, as the practice of recent years has shown, takes the Indians a period of at least one year, at best. A tender for a Ka-226 helicopter has not yet been announced.

    As that is why I think, Dear colleagues, our country will have time to provide for itself and all the others who wish until the "ripening" of the Indians. hi
    1. gjv
      gjv 28 October 2015 12: 32 New
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      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      As that is why I think, Dear colleagues, our country will have time to provide for itself and all the others who wish until the "ripening" of the Indians.

      The FSB only plans to order 10 pieces for border guards. A total of 1997 pieces have been produced since 69. This is 5-6 pieces per year on average, but in reality there is only one in 2013, in 2014 it’s generally 0.
      The maximum productivity of the plant in Kumertau is 20 Ka-226T vehicles per year (this is the claimed, actually IMHO 15 - 16 pieces).
      How many Strela can produce - in general request .
      Hindus want to build a powerful plant with access to annual production of 400 helicopters! hi
  13. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 28 October 2015 15: 17 New
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    One police officer flies in Krasnodar. The picture seems to be small. But it looks like an average.
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    2. gjv
      gjv 28 October 2015 17: 26 New
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      One police officer flies in Krasnodar

      Policeman.

      Kamov Ka-226, RF-21004, KumAPP head. No. 02/04, participates in an official event at the Academy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Krasnodar, June 1, 2014, carries 3 flags on a cable: Russia, Krasnodar Territory and the Air Force, Alexander Harlanov (c)
  14. Old26
    Old26 28 October 2015 20: 01 New
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    Quote: avt
    you look, interest will appear and you want to know in more detail about the types of aircraft in particular and about the number, about submarines, well, except of course the rental of atomic ones - here really the USSR / Russia had an exclusive

    This interest is already 30 years old, no less. If there is a desire, I will find (somewhere at home, the Interavia magazine for 1981 listing all the air forces of the countries of the world), then EMNIP somewhere lying around photocopies of "Jains" for 81-82 years (fleet - fighting ships, aviation, armed forces Weapon system), the German "Floten tashenbuch" (sorry, I don't remember how it is spelled correctly in German) ... Well, even on little things ...