Our special forces

Our special forcesLast Saturday, October 24, without much external noise, celebrated the Day of Special Purpose Units. It was established relatively recently - 31 May 2006, by presidential decree.


It was assumed that this day would be a holiday for all special units - the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Security Service, the Federal Penitentiary Service, the tax police, and possibly the bailiffs. Today, almost every “pumping station” has its own special forces, as the colonel of the General Staff reserve put it. And once the special forces were one, and it belonged to the GRU GSh.

So, despite the general name of the holiday date and the abundance of special forces of various security agencies, October 24 is truly marked only by special forces of the Main Intelligence Directorate - regardless of their formal subordination in the slightly confusing hierarchy of the modern Ministry of Defense.

It is worth recalling, whence came the specific date: October 24 of 1950, the secret directive of the USSR War Minister, Marshal of the Soviet Union A.V. appeared. Vasilevsky number ORG / 2 / 395 / 832. In the structure of the Armed Forces of the Soviet Union, 46 separate special-purpose companies appeared, each consisting of 120 people. The position of the company commander was determined major.

These units immediately coded more than strategic missile units. Those - even participated in the parades. And very few people knew about the existence of special forces even in the Ministry of Defense and in the General Staff itself.
Afghanistan was the high point of special intelligence. Veterans remember him today with some kind of indescribable warmth. History back does not return. But, according to very worthy military analysts, the GRU special forces, if he were immediately given complete freedom of action in this country, would reduce the bloodshed to a minimum. Many are sure: special forces were able to take control of virtually the entire territory of the country and make most of their gangs as their allies: they themselves would have finished off those who wanted to remain under the Americans. This did not happen. The Soviet limited contingent was ordered to fight, and the pilots bombed, bombed and bombed.

Our army lost thousands and thousands of young lives in the war “behind the river”. And one special forces 15 brigade lost there soldiers and officers killed by 140 killed - too many. But at the same time, more than nine thousand dushmans, as well as foreign mercenaries and advisers, were destroyed and captured. Dozens of tons of weapons and ammunition were seized.

What is most surprising: the wonders of heroism, and most importantly, the highest level of military professionalism, were shown by very young senior lieutenants, recent graduates of the intelligence department of the Kiev All-Arms Military School and the 9 of the Ryazan Airborne Company.

On the combat past, special forces can talk endlessly. However, when the war was going on in Afghanistan, the Soviet people did not know anything about their true heroes. And then there was “perestroika”, a bloody parade of sovereignties, and other rubbish. It was then that the special forces and opened. Who and for what purpose - now it is impossible to say for sure. But the first and very bright injection into the public consciousness was the image of a merciless special forces soldier with a bloody sapper blade in his hands, which he supposedly chopped off with pleasure to “foremen of perestroika” and “heralds of publicity”.

And they didn’t tear down anybody’s crazy bows from their shoulders. Although today it is clear to what blood and to what human tragedies the orgy of permissiveness led, covered with loud speeches about the great goals of perestroika. But the special forces were people of honor and the strictest discipline. The order to shoot "foremen" and "heralds" did not arrive, but the special forces could not and did not want to lodge it.

But it was precisely the GRU special forces who stopped the civil war in Tajikistan. The very same 15-I brigade, which was then commanded by Colonel Vladimir Kvachkov. It was this autumn 1992 of the year. When the Soviet Army was divided, the brigade went to Uzbekistan. But since “separatism” has not yet been settled, a kind of dual power has taken shape. That allowed the special forces to work as soon as they knew how, without regard for the high command authorities in Moscow and Tashkent.

Tajikistan really became the bloodiest ulcer on the territory of the newly emerged CIS. And the common border with Afghanistan only aggravated the situation, making it simply catastrophic and hopeless. There was a real massacre in the country. Tajiks brutally murdered the Tajiks, entire villages of Uzbeks were massacred, Russians were killed with terrible executions.

So, one 15-Special Forces brigade, without losing a single person, very quickly stopped the killing of Russians and other "non-Tajik", provided the evacuation from the country to everyone who wanted.
And then, by the forces of healthy forces in Tajik society, which the Russian intelligence officers quickly found and organized, stopped the internecine fratricidal war. Since 1994, Tajikistan lives in the world.

Do you think the GRU special forces and specifically 15-th brigade someone thanked? In general, she was disbanded; some of the officers were even criminally prosecuted in Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. And her former commander is now a simple Russian convict.

The GRU commandos have never been untouchable, on the contrary, very vulnerable. They were always hunted by the enemies of Russia, and the special services of the state to which they served and serve faithfully never let them go. Maybe because those special services came to people who have developed an association from their youth: a special forces officer is a monster with the very bloodied deminer in his hands ...

Chechnya is another bright page in the history of special forces. There, on their territory, they had to be thousands of times more complicated than abroad, in Afghanistan and Tajikistan. Why? We will not go into the details and stir up the recent past ...

By the beginning of the second stage of the so-called antiterrorist operation in the North Caucasus, it became clear that the GRU special forces were playing the key role. And only after 2000, freedom of action appeared. The result is known to all. Active hostilities in the North Caucasus very quickly ceased.

To somehow celebrate the role of special-purpose intelligence officers, their holiday was introduced for the first time in 2000. True, at the departmental level. Secretary of Defense Marshal Igor Sergeyev 26 July 2000 of the year issued an order according to which October 24 should be marked as “The Day of the Special Forces of the Armed Forces”. In 2006, a presidential decree appeared, which was mentioned above.

So, October 24 2000 celebrated the Special Forces 50 anniversary. The festive meeting and concert were held in the Cultural Center of the Russian Army on Suvorov Square. Veterans of special forces came from almost all of the former USSR. They were congratulated by Defense Minister Igor Sergeyev, Chief of the General Staff Anatoly Kvashnin, Head of the GRU Valentin Korabelnikov. And the congratulations were not of a protocol nature, they were humanly warm and sincere. Moreover, after the end of the official part, both the Minister of Defense, and the National Security Service, and even the head of the GRU were very accessible and quite friendly in communication. This has never happened and, alas, most likely, there will be no more. It is even more improbable that at the entrance to the building where the special forces ’jubilee was celebrated, there were no metal detectors or X-ray machines, no one was searched. But there were no strangers there either.

In 2005, the Special Forces 55 anniversary was celebrated at the Central Theater of the Russian Army. The concert was so-so, but external pathos - over the edge. In 2010, the special forces veterans were probably very rich and made a jubilee celebration at expensive Crocus City. Paphos in general poured over the edge, the concert was vulgar, none of the military leaders Grushnikov congratulated.

In 2015, there was no protocol solemn meeting. The event was held again in the theater of the Russian army. Gathered color special forces. Veterans came from all over the former Soviet Union - except for Ukraine. Gennady Vladimirovich Yushkevich arrived from Belarus. This is a legend of military intelligence, the last of the group "Jack". The one who worked in East Prussia since the end of 1944, almost until Victory, was not disclosed.

Spetsnaz GRU personally congratulated the Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu. Both the Chief of the General Staff and the Chief of the GRU sat in the hall, although they did not come on the scene.
The concert was wonderful. This was the first performance that was entirely devoted to the GRU special forces. Thanks to his nameless organizers. By the way, only the Red Star told in detail about the holiday itself.

When the songs were performed, photos of those who fought in Afghanistan appeared on the screen. Someone died, someone died in recent times, and someone was sitting in the hall.

Oleg Gazmanov finished the concert with his hit “Gentlemen Officers”. He sucked in that the gentlemen's heart was under the gun, and the hall, where only “comrade officers” were, rose somehow meekly.

Paradoxical situation! Experts of the highest level, who in the battle of flying determine who is their own, who is a stranger, can’t understand for twenty-four years before pressing the trigger, that the song is not about them. A GRU colonel nearly nailed me once, when I did not defiantly get up while performing this hit. It is ridiculous, he was an obstinate communist, although he made a good career after the collapse of the Union — he served honestly, did not take bribes, did not trade in his Homeland.

I asked him: did you even try to understand the lyrics? "Gentlemen officers," whose "heart under the gun" is the anthem of the defenders of the White House in August 1991. There, they say, was a battalion of "freedom-loving" deserting officers from the Soviet Army under the modest name of "Russia". Again, they say, they loved to sing to the guitar about how the “quilted jacket Bolsheviks” kept them at gunpoint and led them to be shot. He played along with Rostropovich.

“Russian officers”, whose hearts “beat in harmony” and “shone for freedom” in “this is not from Russian officer life. Verse is not Russian, and the pathos "for our and your freedom" is not ours. We have always been spiritually free. And the freedom of the spirit - it determines everything.

But after all they jump! “Russian officers”, which are essentially Russian officers. When will it end?! And when is a quite good singer Gazmanov throwing this chanson from his repertoire?

In the concert, where everything revolved around the actions of special forces in Afghanistan and in the hot spots of Russia, the subject of Africa suddenly appeared.
The bright scene was built on a verse recitative, where the words “We go across Africa, dust from under our boots” were repeated. The actors, dressed in the form of special forces, showed how difficult it was for them to go, but they achieved their victorious goal.

In the foyer of the Central Academic Theater of the Russian Army, where the solemn event was held, an exposition of paintings by Lieutenant-General of the Reserve Alexander Karpychev was launched. He is probably a veteran of the GRU, and served in Syria. The most vivid of his paintings are devoted to this country. Man, if talented - talented in many ways. The pictures are great. Karpychev is one of the best, without "probably", specialists in the Middle East.

Why would he 24 October 2015, arrange a Syrian opening day, and the artists to sing "about Africa"? I am sure: only the special forces of our country, Russia, could put a final and completely peaceful point in the protracted civil war in Syria.
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  1. Angro Magno 28 October 2015 18: 43 New
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    Quiet service, quiet holiday. Everything is logical.
    1. Vend 28 October 2015 18: 48 New
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      Quote: Angro Magno
      “Gentlemen officers”, whose “heart is in sight” is the anthem of the White House defenders in August 1991.

      Where did the author get such information?
      1. Ingvar 72 28 October 2015 18: 52 New
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        Quote: Wend
        Where did the author get such information?

        The author is a clear provocateur, a lot of beautiful words, and at the end a "beautiful" conclusion. Read the last sentence. hi
        1. Bort radist 28 October 2015 19: 00 New
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          Quote: Ingvar 72
          The author is a clear provocateur, a lot of beautiful words, and at the end a "beautiful" conclusion. Read the last sentence.

          I agree. The author listens to one chorus.
          Those who survived in Afghanistan without having spoiled their honor
          Who didn’t make careers from soldier’s blood,
          I sing to regret mother’s officers
          Returning to them the living sons.
          1. yawa63 28 October 2015 19: 35 New
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            Oh, you convicts, why don’t you remember the original words of this song?
            The night at the White House
            The beast in the last agony
            Crashed, crashed
            On the chest of the guys.
            What have we done, brothers
            could not save them
            and now they are forever
            they look into our eyes
            Oh what a pity you guys
            Blood on wet pavement ...
            and further up to date
            AND TO WHOM SHE WAS DEDICATED, AH? Three defenders stoned at the White House who died!
            1. avia1991 28 October 2015 20: 13 New
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              Quote: yawa63
              the original words of this song?

              And the "Bat" on the avatar! WHAT "initial words", colleague ??? This is ANOTHER SONG written on the same music! Do not confuse the gift of God with the scrambled eggs - under the TU a song to stand up to anyone and never come to mind!
              The author, quite consciously and meanly, “pulled out from the closet” a Nazi flag covered in dust and moth-eaten, and began to compare it with the proud Red Banner! And you joyfully sing along to him! am
              1. Baikonur 28 October 2015 20: 50 New
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                In general, if there were such words in the song, and if the song was stolen (appropriated) and remade by Gazmanov, then surely there would already be lawsuits against him from these white house defenders! In our time!
                So - This is a lie, n .... n and provocation !!!
              2. yawa63 28 October 2015 20: 55 New
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                This song and that was performed by the "White House Defender" Gazmanov, he wrote it when the situation changed - he abruptly remade the verse - isn't that disgusting ?! and everyone understands why this was done - however, the situation, but don’t touch my Mouse - served in intelligence for 18 years - 5 in the army, 3 in the special, 10 in the UAR, And when this miracle - Gazmanov-appears on stage in military uniform with an awesome iconostasis - I feel like it (Moder doesn’t miss it), sorry for frankness - but I still couldn’t “beat out” the awards for Chechnya to my guys - you see, there’s not much to be done in prizes ..
                1. Baikonur 28 October 2015 21: 03 New
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                  Quote: yawa63
                  This song and that was performed by the "White House Defender" Gazmanov, he wrote it when the situation changed - he abruptly remade the verse - isn't that disgusting ?! and everyone understands why this was done - however, the situation


                  Maybe I was wrong, but where did such information come from ???

                  Gazmanov said?
                  Or the one who sang with him near the white house?
                  Or the one who saw listened to him there?
                  Or did you sing with him there?

                  Where from! Why can you be trusted? After all, it would have come up long ago!
                  1. Baikonur 28 October 2015 21: 28 New
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                    But the most important thing that I want to say is the cool song! whoever wrote it! She very well reflects the spirit of the Russian Warrior, Fighter, Officer! We can say - the Anthem of the Officers of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation! Therefore, they stand up while playing it!

                    And if someone wants to vulgarize, it will not work! And even if she wrote it, the protector of the white house sang!
                    So his spirit was such an honest, officer, even if he was misled, they deceived, but the Russian patriot wrote this song! And now - Text and words - PEOPLE, music - PEOPLE! (As they say!!!)

                    Congratulations to the special forces! I wish them less special operations!
                    1. Baikonur 28 October 2015 21: 32 New
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                      But how dill it was redone in their own way - That's what a nasty thing!
                    2. yegor_k 29 October 2015 15: 23 New
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                      But the most important thing that I want to say is the cool song! whoever wrote it! She very well reflects the spirit of the Russian Warrior, Fighter, Officer! We can say - the Anthem of the Officers of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation! Therefore, they stand up while playing it!

                      Do we have "gentlemen officers" in the Russian Armed Forces? just for this phrase, throw this song in the trash. We have comrade officers.
                      1. avia1991 29 October 2015 20: 46 New
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                        Quote: yegor_k
                        We have comrade officers.

                        That is, officers of the tsarist army, Suvorov, Kutuzov, Bagration ... Ushakov, Nakhimov - to a dump?
                        But what about tradition? And the story? ..
                2. avia1991 28 October 2015 22: 26 New
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                  Quote: yawa63
                  Don’t touch my mouse - he served 18 years in intelligence - 5 in the army, 3 in a special, 10 in the United Arab Republic

                  I respect, I envy you in a good way, and congratulations on the past hi
                  Quote: yawa63
                  Gazmanov, he wrote it when the situation changed - he abruptly remade the verse - isn't that disgusting ?!

                  The moral image of Gazmanov does not interest me in principle: if we select artists (politicians, officials) by the level of moral degradation, then we will not have either one or the other. But if no one will cry much about the second and third, then among the first there are real talents, and just brushing them off is silly.
                  What and how Gazmanov understood in August of the 91st - we are unlikely to find out. Many then had porridge in their heads, the smell of “democracy” was in the air, and the “damned communists” had long been praying for their eyes for their “lifelong” stay in the Central Committee and on television. I do not condone Gazmanov. But what were the reasons?
                  And further: what - say, poorly rewritten? Is that honest? The song really sounds. That, former, I heard the text before - but it flew out of memory, was erased, did not take root. And this one sinks. This is what we must proceed from!
                  But we do not refuse to listen to the works of Tchaikovsky, just because he was a fagot? Gazmanov is not Tchaikovsky, but ... you know, when a priest in the Church is obsessed with the Devil, they say that the Lord himself serves through him. Here is something similar. hi
                  1. VOLOD 28 October 2015 23: 18 New
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                    yes sorry fig song. I don’t brave at all. it reminds me of songs about white emigrants such as "GUARDIAN GALITSYN."
                    1. avia1991 29 October 2015 00: 08 New
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                      yes sorry fig song. I don’t brave at all.

                      And in your opinion, is a good song necessarily drilled? belay
                      Do you know "Cuckoo", "Afghan"? It’s not a brave song at all request Also, you say, bad? Then I will answer you with old folk wisdom: "There is no companion for the taste and color!"
            2. Bibliographer 28 October 2015 22: 31 New
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              That's just nonsense to write is not necessary! Listen carefully to the song itself! Only very carefully !!!

              http://www.audiopoisk.com/track/oleg-gazmanov/mp3/gospoda-oficerimp3/
              1. I am a Russian 29 October 2015 22: 44 New
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                Quote: Bibliographer
                Listen carefully to the song itself! Only very carefully !!!



                Listen with your heart ...
            3. Bort radist 29 October 2015 05: 30 New
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              Quote: yawa63
              Oh, you convicts, why don’t you remember the original words of this song?

              Aivasedo, don't start. For one motive, different songs are sung. To make it clearer, the Kalashnikov assault rifle is a good weapon, but for us it is important in whose hands it is and for what purpose it opened fire to defeat. It is important what thoughts and moods this song evokes. And how they fought for music for the Russian anthem. A song often lives its own life, and sometimes contrary to the wishes of the author.
        2. Nick 28 October 2015 21: 35 New
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          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: Wend
          Where did the author get such information?

          The author is a clear provocateur, a lot of beautiful words, and at the end a "beautiful" conclusion. Read the last sentence. hi

          This is just his opinion.
        3. Rus2012 28 October 2015 22: 40 New
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          Quote: Ingvar 72
          The author is a clear provocateur

          ... the author and the CMOS do not know ...
      2. Nick 28 October 2015 21: 33 New
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        Quote: Wend
        Quote: Angro Magno
        “Gentlemen officers”, whose “heart is in sight” is the anthem of the White House defenders in August 1991.

        Where did the author get such information?

        That author apparently showed his personal taste IMHO. I went through too much. But in general, the article is good.
      3. Angro Magno 28 October 2015 21: 36 New
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        I am not an author. And I didn’t say that.
      4. Angro Magno 28 October 2015 21: 59 New
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        Wend, don't drink it anymore. And follow the bazaar.
        1. Vend 29 October 2015 09: 42 New
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          Quote: Angro Magno
          Wend, don't drink it anymore. And follow the bazaar.

          What a vulgarity. I didn’t drink at the Brudershaft. And the fact that you cannot answer the question, but immediately climb into the bottle, says a lot. And if you do not agree with this part of the article, you could indicate. And do not judge people by yourself. If the norm is drunk for you, then not everyone should do it. laughing
          1. Angro Magno 29 October 2015 18: 35 New
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            Sober delirium is even worse than a drunk.
      5. Lissyara 29 October 2015 00: 21 New
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        People, she appeared in other words at the end of the 80's.
        And as for me, it's better.
      6. vitaliy.rnd 29 October 2015 01: 02 New
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        The author is apparently a master at earning facts.
    2. Alexei 28 October 2015 18: 59 New
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      Quote: Angro Magno
      Quiet service

      Here I would argue. smile
      1. Baikonur 28 October 2015 20: 52 New
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        Quote: Alexej
        Quote: Angro Magno
        Quiet service

        Here I would argue. smile

        By the way, yes! Quiet service in the warehouse, for example!
      2. Angro Magno 28 October 2015 22: 00 New
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        Quietly came, quietly left. And if something behind rumbled ... And where is your evidence? (Tse)
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    4. YARUSSIAN39 28 October 2015 21: 15 New
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      A quiet holiday, in our city on this holiday all evening the fireworks rattled throughout the city: D
  2. kot11180 28 October 2015 18: 44 New
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    Gruman respect
  3. venaya 28 October 2015 18: 46 New
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    ... it was the GRU special forces that stopped the civil war in Tajikistan. The 15th brigade, which was then commanded by the colonel, excelled Vladimir Kvachkov

    There are tasks that, except in principle, cannot be solved by special forces groups.
    There are people of legend specials. units that are sinful to forget.
    1. Asadullah 28 October 2015 19: 14 New
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      There are tasks that, in principle, cannot be solved by special forces groups


      Yes, right, specialists, this is primarily intelligence, stocks, - secondary. And the main army solves the main task, according to all the rules of military science. Just a romance, such, from a specialist you can never grow. And ordinary soldiers of any assault group, any army unit, - a low bow, because I know what it is. When the legs are still three days jerking, jerking, and pouring from all the cracks like a narik under breaking ...
      1. venaya 28 October 2015 19: 38 New
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        Quote: Asadullah
        the main task is solved by the main army unit, according to all the rules of military science ... to the ordinary soldiers of any assault group, any army unit - a deep bow, for I know what it is

        Perhaps you should not directly compare. Each unit has its own specifics, the narrower the tasks, the less specialists they are able to competently solve. For a more effective solution to problems, specialization is simply necessary, this is a general law. I think to agree with me.
  4. Ingvar 72 28 October 2015 18: 48 New
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    I put the article a plus, but I realized that I was mistaken. All beautiful words for one message -
    I am sure: only the special forces of our country, Russia, could put the final and completely peaceful point in the protracted civil war in Syria.
    1. Gardamir 28 October 2015 18: 55 New
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      . All beautiful words for one message -
      here's another
      This did not happen. The Soviet limited contingent was ordered to fight, and the pilots to bomb, bomb and bomb.
      an analogy begs however.
  5. avia1991 28 October 2015 19: 00 New
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    I asked him: have you ever tried to understand the lyrics? “Gentlemen officers,” whose “heart is in sight” is the anthem of the White House defenders in August 1991. There, they say, there was a battalion of "freedom-loving" deserter officers from the Soviet Army under the modest name of "Russia." They again say that they loved to sing with the guitar about how the “Bolshevik quilted jackets" kept them on the fly and led them to execution. Played them Rostropovich
    I haven’t been there, I haven’t heard - but "SPEAK" .. The author has a minus for this - although he put a plus to the article. It seems that the author himself did not hear the words of the song - so, he snarled "upstairs", and very angry at Gazmanov! Maybe a personal insult, well, the namesake? So why then pull it out for all to see?
    "Gentlemen officers" is a commonplace informal appeal that does not carry any sense, except to emphasize respect for KASTA. AND "to those who survived in Afghanistan without having spoiled their Honor" it’s hardly a shame to hear Gazmanov’s song - it’s much more offensive to read such a shameful and foul analysis, especially in comparison with “deserters who liked to sing with the guitar ..” How many centuries BEFORE this "gentlemen officers" served faithfully in Russia - and how many more will serve ?! AUTHOR WRONG. IMHO.
    And the guys from the Special Forces of the GRU - nothing but respect, and the wishes of the battle Good luck! Invisible and inaudible - but lightning fast and deadly effective! Once again with pleasure - FOR YOU! drinks
    1. lambert 28 October 2015 19: 42 New
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      And you read the original version, you will understand immediately.
      1. avia1991 28 October 2015 19: 54 New
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        Quote: lambert
        you read the original version, you’ll understand immediately.

        And the initial version DOES NOT INTEREST me !!!
        The song is performed in the version that sounds TODAY - and it is the author who pours mud on it!
        The initial version would have sounded .. yes it would not have sounded, and Gazmanov would not have sounded with him. Everything is simple request
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    "The GRU commandos were never untouchable, on the contrary, very vulnerable" ....
    God grant that this ends and does not repeat itself. You can’t treat the most trained and loyal warriors like that ...
  7. Asadullah 28 October 2015 19: 08 New
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    And why only for the 15th is it? We also trained in Chirchik, also shook the caravans, our intelligence went into a common boiler. Almost every n \ n, its intelligence was used for its intended purpose. And the data came down at the time of the big operation. And nobody supported the reconnaissance air.
  8. Abbra 28 October 2015 19: 14 New
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    The article left a double impression. Unclear kind of ... This strange run over to the song, no less strange message about Syria ... And the GRU special forces - a low bow and respect!
    1. _GSVG_ 28 October 2015 22: 45 New
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      Comrade, about a song, not a run over, but IMHO - a statement, a song with a loud message is really not about anything.
  9. Lissyara 28 October 2015 19: 24 New
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    - Afghanistan is a wonderland, went to the village and disappeared there.
    - Do not say, wonderland, the regiment was walking back, the village disappeared.
    In general, this is a holiday of the GRU special forces.
    So happy holiday, you, "Bats"!
  10. Nikoha.2010 28 October 2015 19: 30 New
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    Low bow to you !, RESPECT, Memory forever! No words, take care of yourself bros! We have hobby friends and I am proud of them! And I also dream that my son entered the RVVDKU!
    1. avia1991 28 October 2015 20: 03 New
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      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      And I also dream that my son entered the RVVDKU!

      At one time, because of youthful stupidity, I did not go to KVOKU, although the “buyer” called very much .. It turned out later that I had passed the professional selection perfectly.
      Жалею о своем тогдашнем выборе, хотя офицером стал, и послужил Родине, но.. хотя, может, разведчик из меня бы и не получился? lol Who knows..
      А насчет училища, тезка: если не ошибаюсь, в Новосибирске теперь разведфак, аналогичный КВОКУ. Может, туда интереснее? wink
      1. Lissyara 28 October 2015 23: 54 New
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        Hello "fellow" missed by the military city.
        I myself graduated from KVIRTU, and back then we were surprised at the hell at the KVOKU military intelligence department with knowledge of the Chinese language.
        In Novosibi, nothing has changed. In Soviet times, there were prepared 20 percent of "p.i.s.dobolov from the political leaders", but this is the basis of special forces. Not political. wink
        1. avia1991 29 October 2015 00: 20 New
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          Во времена СССР там готовили

          а в российские времена - помощников по воспитательной работе.. та же фигня, в общем. Но разведфак из КВОКУ перенесли, и я слышал действительно, что вроде как в Новосибирское общевойсковое.. "Свято место пусто не бывает" wink - вряд ли одна 9-я рота из Рязани обеспечит всю потребность ГРУ в разведчиках!
          1. Lissyara 29 October 2015 00: 35 New
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            Forget about 9 company. Serdyukov (People's Commissar Taburetkin) successfully buried her when in the RVDKU them. Vasi began to prepare sergeants.
            The school has been restored, but the number of graduation officers of the paratroopers is “zero”.
            Novosib also rose.
            And I would also like to see the Blagoveshchensk VOKU in place. "Where we are, there is victory!"
            PySy: Zampolitov always did not like. Apestols and pestols!
  11. lambert 28 October 2015 19: 41 New
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    Автор прав. Никто не помнит, а может быть и не слышал первоначальной версии. Я случайно об этом где то прочитал и честно говоря не акцентировался на этом деле. Но сегодня нашел этот первоначальный вариант - и слова и само исполнение есть в интернете - наслаждайтесь и вдумайтесь, что вы делаете, когда встаете, и кому отдаете память, господа офицеры.

    Итак - http://lyricstranslate.com/ru/oleg-gazmanov-ofitsery-%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BF%D0
    %BE%D0%B4%D0%B0-%D0%BE%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%8B-%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0
    %B2%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F-1991-lyrics.html#ixzz3psiaP
    x1b

    В ночь у Белого дома, зверь в последней агонии
    Накатившись разбился, на груди у ребят....
    Что ж мы, братцы, наделали, не смогли уберечь их.
    И теперь они вечно в глаза нам глядят.

    Ах, как жаль вас, ребята, кровь на мокром асфальте.
    Позвала вас Россия, как бывало не раз.
    И опять вы уходите, может, прямо на небо.
    И откуда – то сверху прощаете нас.

    Так куда ж вы уходите, может, прямо на небо.
    И откуда – то сверху прощаете нас.

    Так что как всегда - нас обули.
  12. lambert 28 October 2015 19: 43 New
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    Quote: Bort Radist
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    The author is a clear provocateur, a lot of beautiful words, and at the end a "beautiful" conclusion. Read the last sentence.

    I agree. The author listens to one chorus.
    Those who survived in Afghanistan without having spoiled their honor
    Who didn’t make careers from soldier’s blood,
    I sing to regret mother’s officers
    Returning to them the living sons.


    http://lyricstranslate.com/ru/oleg-gazmanov-ofitsery-%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BF%D0
    %BE%D0%B4%D0%B0-%D0%BE%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%8B-%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0
    %B2%D0%B0%D1%8F-%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F-1991-lyrics.html#ixzz3psiaP
    x1b

    В ночь у Белого дома, зверь в последней агонии
    Накатившись разбился, на груди у ребят....
    Что ж мы, братцы, наделали, не смогли уберечь их.
    И теперь они вечно в глаза нам глядят.

    Ах, как жаль вас, ребята, кровь на мокром асфальте.
    Позвала вас Россия, как бывало не раз.
    И опять вы уходите, может, прямо на небо.
    И откуда – то сверху прощаете нас.

    Так куда ж вы уходите, может, прямо на небо.
    И откуда – то сверху прощаете нас.

    Второй куплет - и все сразу становится на свои места. Только разум включите.
    1. Bort radist 29 October 2015 09: 39 New
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      Quote: lambert
      Второй куплет - и все сразу становится на свои места. Только разум включите.

      Это разные песни на один мотив. Приводимую вами не слушал и не собираюсь. Есть не мало гадких переделок на известные мотивы и что? Автор статьи, вольно и ли нет, посеял раздор среди определённого круга лиц. Хочется надеяться не специально. Но это классика. Внести непонимание, потом увеличить до взаимной ненависти и на майдан. Вспомним кресты Георгиевские, погоны, ..... . Задача идеологической войны найти, а лучше создать, противоречие и увеличить его до ненависти.
  13. Manul 28 October 2015 20: 06 New
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    Люди, а напомните пожалуйста - во время развала СССР спецназ в какой-то республике прибалтики оборонял свое здание и до конца выполнял присягу Советскому союзу .Смогли удержать весь штурм, умудрились попасть в Россию, а потом их тупо сдали.Передали в наручниках.Позорнейшая страница нашей страны и псевдовласти. Какая это была прибалтийская страна, и что за часть? И их судьба? Неужели мы просто так взяли и забыли?
    1. andj61 28 October 2015 21: 06 New
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      Quote: Manul
      Люди, а напомните пожалуйста - во время развала СССР спецназ в какой-то республике прибалтики оборонял свое здание и до конца выполнял присягу Советскому союзу .Смогли удержать весь штурм, умудрились попасть в Россию, а потом их тупо сдали.Передали в наручниках.Позорнейшая страница нашей страны и псевдовласти. Какая это была прибалтийская страна, и что за часть? И их судьба? Неужели мы просто так взяли и забыли?

      Вообще-то это рижский ОМОН очень сильно напоминает - он до конца выполнил свой долг, будучи единственным подразделением, которое реально боролось с латвийскими сепаратистами. После путча 1991г. был передислоцирован в Тюмень. Зам командира Сергей Парфёнов уже из Тюмени был выдан властям Латвии, осуждён, но передан России по личной просьбе Ельцина, и им же помилованный.
      1. Manul 28 October 2015 21: 08 New
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        Вообще-то это рижский ОМОН очень сильно напоминает - он до конца выполнил свой долг, будучи единственным подразделением, которое реально боролось с латвийскими сепаратистами. После путча 1991г. был передислоцирован в Тюмень. Зам командира Сергей Парфёнов уже из Тюмени был выдан властям Латвии, осуждён, но передан России по личной просьбе Ельцина, и им же помилованный.

        hi Спасибо. Нигде не мог найти эту информацию, а то что "рижский" из памяти стерлось.Теперь подробней изучу. У меня сердце от того видео 90-х до сих пор болит. Я помню его голос.
      2. Bort radist 30 October 2015 12: 51 New
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        Вообще-то это рижский ОМОН очень сильно напоминает - он до конца выполнил свой долг, будучи единственным подразделением,

        На Украине Беркут! переворот на то и переворот, что очень часто исполняющих долг и присягу, причисляют к предателям. Хуже когда сталкиваются две военные структуры которые ОБЯЗАНЫ исполнять приказы беспрекословно. А задним умом мы все крепки.
    2. Lissyara 28 October 2015 23: 59 New
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      And let's ask a question!
      Do special forces have a function to defend? In fact, these are combat units that are prepared for active offensive operations behind enemy lines.
      I just saw what OMG OM SNG can do. This is Profi BIG LETTER!
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  15. yawa63 28 October 2015 21: 10 New
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    This song and that was performed by the "White House Defender" Gazmanov, he wrote it when the situation changed - he abruptly remade the verse - isn't that disgusting ?! and everyone understands why this was done - however, the situation


    Maybe I was wrong, but where did such information come from ???

    Gazmanov said?
    Or the one who sang with him near the white house?
    Or the one who saw listened to him there?
    Or did you sing with him there?

    Where from!

    Если Вы верите слову офицера - то я лично слышал эту песню с этими словами в исполнении Газ
    манова и не раз, и где-то после 1993 года она вдруг появилась в его же исполнении с измененным куплетом.
    А возле Белого Дома я был, как раз приехал в Москву в командировку, в аккурат 19 августа, сходил посмотрел чего там и как, правда, посоветовали форму снять, поэтому и свое мнение я по этому поводу имею.
    1. Manul 28 October 2015 21: 28 New
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      Quote: yawa63
      Если Вы верите слову офицера - то я лично слышал эту песню с этими словами в исполнении Газ
      манова и не раз, и где-то после 1993 года она вдруг появилась в его же исполнении с измененным куплетом.
      А возле Белого Дома я был, как раз приехал в Москву в командировку, в аккурат 19 августа, сходил посмотрел чего там и как, правда, посоветовали форму снять, поэтому и свое мнение я по этому поводу имею.

      Белый дом и Газманов , как Октябрьская революция и Звездинский.Если Газманов что-то знал и написал даже про это песню, что же он всю жизнь писал о морячках?Чего не кричал каждый день о преступлениях и не писал об этом песни? Не надо попсового поэта выдавать за непреложность истины.Не говнюк, но и ничего ценного.
      1. Lissyara 29 October 2015 00: 03 New
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        Actually, it sounded on our issue back in Soviet times. Song written in 1989-88 year. One flaw with all due respect to the tsarist army ...
        All the same, not gentlemen officers, but comrade officers!
  16. RusDV 28 October 2015 21: 29 New
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    У нашего спецназа хорошая наследственность.... героическая... даже шведы признали....
  17. Mikhalych 70 28 October 2015 21: 35 New
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    На момент 21-34 28.1015 стояло 4 минуса. Пятый мой. Статью считаю лживой.
    1. avia1991 28 October 2015 22: 11 New
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      Quote: Mikhalych 70
      стояло 4 минуса. Пятый мой. Статью считаю лживой.

      Все относительно. Плюсы ставят не автору, а спецназу ГРУ. А ложь от Правды большинство умеет отделять. hi
  18. _GSVG_ 28 October 2015 22: 33 New
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    The article is essentially true, I join the congratulations to our GRU Special Forces! God give you health, strength and good luck, and non-ruling leaders zero. soldier
    It is rightly said about the gazman, his gaspadoffic squalor, it’s not possible to listen to a sane person, he wrote a poem to clear the stump, cut down the babos on a patriotic wave, but he does not have this patriotism. this song jarred me not as an officer even when he sang it for the first time, and, according to the media, it became a hit. Kamers is one word.
  19. Clutch 28 October 2015 23: 12 New
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    гаденький осадок от статьи... За нас, за Вас и за СПЕЦНАЗ!!! drinks
  20. kush62 29 October 2015 03: 57 New
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    Ёще в Советское время радиостанция " Голос Америки " так тонко и хитро давала репортажи.
    В кучу лжи , тонко приплетала и правдивую информацию. А энтот автор начал с разделения спецназа разных подразделений и началось: возможно, наверное , может быть. Умудрился везде оставить по кучке г...на. Провокатор!!!
  21. Wolka 29 October 2015 05: 34 New
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    кто хочет, тот поймет, спецназом не надо бросаться, о них говорят тихо, но с уважением, этот сильные духом, скромные и вежливые люди, внешне никак не примечательные, но всегда готовые к борьбе со злом, за вас робятки...
  22. ramzes1776 29 October 2015 08: 09 New
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    А что 5 ноября спецназ ГРУ уже не отмечает?Сыну в клубе поручили презентацию по празднику день военного разведчика.Выписал подвиги разведчиков-спецназовцев в чеченской кампании, получивших звезду Героя России.Теперь получается,что у них теперь свой праздник? А ещё есть день сил специальных операций в феврале.А этот праздник для кого???
  23. novel66 29 October 2015 08: 40 New
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    вообще то, это праздник "со слезами на глазах" весь спецназ-то ВСУ уничтожили и даже, как они говорят, особо не напряглись lol
  24. Andrey VOV 29 October 2015 09: 46 New
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    Статью прочел....да...хороший знакомый,учились в одной школе,правда он чуть старше был,окончил Уссурийское суворовское с отличием,потом Киевское общевойсковое,как раз факультет с китайским языком...как раз к самому развалу выпустился и загнали бедолагу в ЗабВо...потом человек уволился и нашел себя в коммерческом поприще со знанием китайского и стал таки коммерсом преуспевающем....теперь о статье..двоякое впечатление она конечно оставила,только обсуждение я что то не пойму,мы творчество Газманова обсуждаем или праздник?
    По мне так всему спецназу респект и огромное уважение!
  25. _dimasik_ 29 October 2015 17: 18 New
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    Что то я не понял, а с чего это защитники белого дома стали предателями???
    Я вот всегда считал предателями тех кто стрелял из танков по белому дому и сидел в частях бухая и смотря на развал страны.
    И таких крутых спецназовцев которые по совету сняли форму и пришли поглазеть.
    По вашему Ельцин не предатель страны? ГКЧП плохое?
    А вот мне кажется при ГКЧП был бы больший толк для страны. И выборы бы провели и пошли бы по китайскому пути, а не под управлением алкаша распродали всю страну.
    Статейка очень странная. Хочешь написать про праздник, так пиши про праздник не добавляя бреда своего больного разума.
  26. Oleko 1 November 2015 02: 17 New
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    Но любой действительный сепаратизм должен жестко и безпощадно подавляться, то ли в виде какой-то «Казакии», то ли в виде какого-то «имамата». Россия едина и неделима! Этот постулат даже не обсуждается; он при необходимости только подтверждается силой. Потребуется 3-я Чеченская война? – Будет! Третья и последняя. После нее Чечня останется, но в ней будут жить уже другие Чеченцы – от Терского казачьего войска

    Who wrote?