Patrol aircraft for the VKS plan to build on the basis of the IL-114

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Patrol aircraft for the VKS and the border guards can be built on the basis of IL-114, the production of which will be resumed in Russia, reports RIA News report of a member of the board of the military industrial complex of the Russian Federation Mikhail Kashtan

Patrol aircraft for the VKS plan to build on the basis of the IL-114


“We are separately faced with the task of launching the production of the Il-114 aircraft and creating special aircraft on its basis: patrol aircraft for our state aviation - Air Force and Airborne Border Troops "- said Chestnut.

The IL-114 Turboprop was developed at the end of the X-NUMX-Ilyushin Design Bureau for use on USSR local airlines. In total, less than 80 of such aircraft were built.

The agency recalls that "last August, Putin instructed the government, the Ministry of Defense and the presidential envoy in the Volga Federal District to assess the feasibility of deploying IL-114 serial production on the basis of Aviacor-Aviation Plant OJSC."

The experts interviewed by the publication then spoke of the need for a significant modernization of the machine, in particular, the replacement of the engine and electronic equipment.
  • Javier Rodriguez / www.airwar.ru
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  1. +3
    27 October 2015 16: 22
    What's on the engines, interesting? TV7-117CM?
    1. +15
      27 October 2015 16: 24
      The basis is taken by Soviet projects. Truly: everything new is well forgotten old.
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      2. +2
        27 October 2015 17: 59
        Since the collapse of the USSR for more than 10 years they haven’t done anything, didn’t design or build, in fact, the situation began to change not long ago, and I’m afraid that we will not return to the level of the USSR soon
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      4. +2
        27 October 2015 19: 24
        Sometimes it's worth looking at an American serif. An analogue of the AS-130 "Spectrum" for night sweeps would not hurt either in Chechnya in 2000-2003, or now in Syria. And this is not our last military action. Against an enemy "conditionally unarmed" at night with only MANPADS and no radar, it is good, and the use is cheaper than UAVs and more effective. Although the efficiency of the UAV will grow every year.
    2. 0
      27 October 2015 16: 30
      Yes, Ukrainians will not have to contact
    3. +3
      27 October 2015 17: 02
      TV7-117CM engines with a power of 2650 hp put on the modification of the IL-114-300. And more powerful engines PW127H Pratt & Whitney with a capacity of 2750 hp. - on the modification of IL-114-100
      Read more at: http://avia.pro/blog/il-114
      1. 0
        27 October 2015 22: 31
        Well, you have to forget about import (this is even better). Even if it pushes the project back in time.
        Quote: pvv113
        TV7-117CM engines with a power of 2650 hp put on the modification of the IL-114-300. And more powerful engines PW127H Pratt & Whitney with a capacity of 2750 hp. - on the modification of IL-114-100
        Read more at: http://avia.pro/blog/il-114
  2. +1
    27 October 2015 16: 23
    Well, naturally 114 is cheaper for reconnaissance than 214.
    1. FID
      +5
      27 October 2015 17: 03
      Quote: keel 31
      Well, naturally 114 is cheaper for reconnaissance than 214

      And you estimate the range ... It's one thing to patrol coastal waters, and look for boats in the ocean?
  3. EFA
    +2
    27 October 2015 16: 24
    Separately, we are faced with the task of launching the production of the IL-114 aircraft and the creation on its basis of special aircraft: patrol aircraft for our state aviation - the Air Force and border troops aviation, ”said Kashtan

    Does this mean that there will be a civilian version? It would not be bad, our country needs a cheap plane like air, and I think there would also be a demand for export, even to third world countries.
    1. +8
      27 October 2015 16: 29
      Looks like a military man?
      1. 0
        27 October 2015 16: 37
        ... in the military field. wassat
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      3. gjv
        +3
        27 October 2015 17: 31
        As a patrolman, they "drew" such options.


        Patrol IL-114P is designed to protect maritime borders. In addition, today there is a problem of monitoring the state of the environment. Enterprises that have gained tremendous independence in the pursuit of profit are responsible for many violations in terms of pollution and air, and water basins, dumping untreated production waste into the environment. And the task of state bodies is to identify such violations.
        One of the means of monitoring the situation in the border areas, seaports, along the routes of oil and gas pipelines is a territorial automated system of air-sea surveillance. This system includes the patrol IL-114P. The upgraded patrol IL-114PM was developed on the basis of the passenger airplane of local IL-114 air lines and is designed to solve the tasks of patrolling the 200-mile economic zone and control unauthorized entry of air, surface and underwater means into this zone. In the patrol version, the Il-114PM at a distance of 300 km from the base can provide control for up to 10 hours with a mass of discharged means of detection and search for underwater targets up to 1500 kg.
      4. EFA
        +1
        27 October 2015 21: 20
        And?
        Why photo?
        They are not produced at the present time; there is a photo of a civilian aircraft in the article. I mean, will this production be resumed? Moreover, our low-cost airline Pobeda with these planes would cover the whole of Russia and it would be very useful for them.
        1. 0
          28 October 2015 02: 33
          With a ticket price like a reserved seat? !!!
      5. -1
        28 October 2015 02: 31
        long, distorted proportions of the photo!
  4. +6
    27 October 2015 16: 24
    For border guards there would be a smaller bird, but more economical it would be too painful to use such large machines.
    And it would be even better if there were more drones with a longer time in the air for more than 12 hours), then it would have been ... Equipment to fill in and fix applicants at the intersection of the GP at any time of the day.

    Pisi: For hazardous areas like the Agan border, drone drones with guided bombs and supersonic air-to-ground missiles would not hurt. And it seems that soon the ISIS will climb to Tajikistan.
    1. 0
      27 October 2015 16: 33
      This one is very economical! fellow
    2. avt
      0
      27 October 2015 16: 38
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      For border guards there would be a smaller bird, but more economical it would be too painful to use such large machines.

      wassat Type on hang gliders transplant!?
      Quote: pv1005
      They are now FSB Aviation

      In which Gavrilov "Cheburashek" scored as much as he could. Well, 114th yes - it would be quite suitable not for replacement, here it is more likely to talk about 112m, namely as a patrol and a cargo-passenger.
      Quote: pv1005
      And about the patrol plane (for border guards) based on IL-114, conversations and Wishlist have been going on since the 90s of the last century.

      Well, so there is no one in the customs "- the Tashkent plant is dead, although they were ready to pay. But all this described so far Wishlist, despite the fact that the fuselage seems to have already been taken to the statics and in Voronezh they are threatening to lift the 112th on the wing and put into production as much as 2019, but the order seems to have already been reduced to 35 airplanes.
      Quote: Samara-58
      If sclerosis doesn’t fail me, production will be established in N. Novgorod.

      It doesn’t change, it’s like they stopped at the Falcon.
      1. +1
        27 October 2015 16: 43
        I reason like a frontier. In vain you laugh ... The smaller the contraption will hang in the sky above the border, the better for the job. Everyone has different things and the border guards are no exception. )))
        1. +1
          27 October 2015 17: 07
          Grandfather Fichteau
          I am glad that you finally erupted on the forum ... I read with pleasure ... love
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          2. 0
            27 October 2015 21: 41
            Mutually... wink
        2. jjj
          +1
          27 October 2015 18: 09
          Quote: Mama_Cholli
          The smaller the thing will hang in the sky above the border, the better for the job.

          Well, let's say not over the border, as a line, but within the border strip, well, and over the economic zone of the shelf
          1. 0
            27 October 2015 21: 43
            Yes, thanks, I really made a reservation. The essence does not change. Observe, give coordinates for the ambulance to leave the sick on the head ...
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        3. 0
          28 October 2015 19: 58
          Mom Cholly, so you need "Inspector-1", developed by the Kurchatov Institute. 45 hours in the air at 4,5 meters (wingspan) good
          Read more here: http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/64919/
          Best regards, hi
  5. +2
    27 October 2015 16: 30
    Border troops ordered to live long 10 years ago. They are now the FSB aviation. And about the patrol plane (for border guards) based on IL-114, conversations and Wishlist have been going on since the 90s of the last century.
    1. +3
      27 October 2015 16: 40
      Unmanned aerial vehicles are easier to operate and large aerodromes are not needed, although at each Border Detachment you can take a small take-off by 100 meters.
      And people will change at the computer in 2-3 hours of duty.
      Perhaps aircraft of this class are useful only for the sea borders of Russia, but drones could also be stumbled upon one such bird, as a result they would have kept a large area.
      By the way, it would be possible to use unmanned airships (of small size), so they would certainly be hanging for weeks ... who the hell would crawl.
      1. +1
        27 October 2015 18: 05
        I myself served in the PV of the Russian Federation. Aviation is needed, but rather it’s precisely an airship and necessarily unmanned. Manned sentinel aircraft is generally a strange solution. The PF section is a strip of 2-10 km on land and 12 nautical miles at sea, and the district intelligence was already responsible for the remaining lines. You need either drones capable of flying for days to search for submarines, or ILs with a function of at least 15 hours of flight.
        1. jjj
          +1
          27 October 2015 18: 11
          Now it’s still accepted to catch poachers
        2. +1
          27 October 2015 21: 45
          Hello green !!! I’m in the PV KGB of the USSR.
          1. +1
            27 October 2015 22: 52
            Ltd!
            Black Mom, it turns out, is the hidden Green Brother? !!!! soldier
            Tynos agentos ?!
            Repainting with a sex change? !!! belay
            PV KGB of the USSR is also an abbreviation very familiar to me; even closer - KZakPO, KSAPO, MMG, VPBS ...
            We meet on May 28 on 3-4 left! stop
            In case of no show - a meeting of the PP asset in the dryer after 21.00 (after BR)!
            1. jjj
              +2
              28 October 2015 00: 21
              And some still remember when the Committee under the Council of Ministers was
            2. +1
              28 October 2015 11: 36
              Quote: Oman 47
              Ltd!
              Black Mom, it turns out, is the hidden Green Brother? !!!! soldier
              Tynos agentos ?!
              Repainting with a sex change? !!! belay
              PV KGB of the USSR is also an abbreviation very familiar to me; even closer - KZakPO, KSAPO, MMG, VPBS ...
              We meet on May 28 on 3-4 left! stop
              In case of no show - a meeting of the PP asset in the dryer after 21.00 (after BR)!

              Set aside the sex change. )))
              It’s just that the same nickname in the batluh.
              And I’m closer to the KDPO, where I served ... Although, on the contrary, it’s very (geographically far) now.
          2. +1
            28 October 2015 01: 09
            I am from SKPO (North Caucasian Border District) of the Russian Federation. 1993-1994
  6. +1
    27 October 2015 16: 30
    If sclerosis doesn’t fail me, production will be established in N. Novgorod. hi
    1. FID
      0
      27 October 2015 17: 05
      It does not change ... It was decided to build on the Falcon ...
      1. 0
        27 October 2015 17: 09
        Quote: SSI
        It was decided to build on the Falcon ...

        IL-114? It seems like going to VASO?
        1. avt
          +1
          27 October 2015 17: 14
          Quote: sa-ag
          IL-114? It seems like going to VASO?

          Quote: avt
          in Voronezh they threaten to lift 112y on the wing and put in the series as much as 2019m, n
      2. 0
        28 October 2015 01: 12
        It seems that they wanted to shove it into Kazan, though it was actively fighting back. Or am I wrong?
  7. +1
    27 October 2015 16: 30
    It’s good that there is something to revive. And airplanes are needed for the country.
  8. +2
    27 October 2015 16: 31
    Patrol aircraft for the VKS plan to build on the basis of the IL-114

    In principle, a new aircraft would not be in the way of polar aviation (and this is very important in connection with the growing "Arctic race"). Moreover, at one time the "grandfather" "one hundred and fourteenth" Il-14 worked in high latitudes to glory ...
    I hope that the IL-114 will prove to be as reliable and unpretentious as its glorious ancestor ...
    1. 0
      27 October 2015 16: 37
      The Uzbeks have been exploiting for 15 years and nothing. True, they have Pratt & Whitney Canada engines.
      1. 0
        27 October 2015 17: 39
        Quote: Hairy Siberian
        15 years Uzbeks exploit and nothing

        In conditions of high latitudes (because it was precisely about them)? .. I have not heard about this ...
        And the second question - how massively and actively do they exploit it? .. As far as I know, not too much, because about 10 cars of this type are in operation at all. 6 or 7 of them in Uzbekistan ... However, it will not be enough ...
        Quote: Hairy Siberian
        True, they have Pratt & Whitney Canada engines

        Fairly good, high-quality and economical engines ... True, not cheap however. And for us now, most likely inaccessible ...
        1. jjj
          0
          28 October 2015 00: 32
          The machine went through a full cycle of practical icing tests in Arkhangelsk in the middle of the 90's
  9. +2
    27 October 2015 16: 33
    And the black-and-white chubik didn’t betray anything new for such grandmas? wassat
    1. +2
      27 October 2015 16: 35
      He has a nano-plane, not visible anywhere or to anyone !!!
      1. +1
        27 October 2015 16: 43
        Quote: VNP1958PVN
        And the black-and-white chubik didn’t betray anything new for such grandmas?

        Quote: Samara-58
        He has a nano-plane, not visible anywhere or to anyone !!!
        1. +2
          27 October 2015 21: 24
          good bully
          Inspired by:
          ... Chubais’s cheekbones became scarlet -
          He can tell everything
          But can't show
          Because nans are very small ...
          (c) Murzilki International (Autoradio)
          laughing laughing laughing
    2. +2
      27 October 2015 16: 50
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      And the black-and-white chubik didn’t betray anything new for such grandmas?


      Yes, Dear VNP1958PVN, even the very use of the term "gave out" in relation to the red-haired Tolyan is ridiculous. In his understanding of the world, there are only concepts of the type: TAKE, TAKE, SAW, TAKEN, and the like. laughing
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    1. 0
      27 October 2015 16: 46
      I do not agree. For the northern zone, such a bird may be and will go, but for mountainous and wooded areas (the whole Far East) this is a useless burning of fuel.
  11. +2
    27 October 2015 16: 43
    Quote: oleg-gr
    The basis is taken by Soviet projects. Truly: everything new is well forgotten old.


    The story of life. The end of the 70s - the beginning of the 80s. In the Arctic, pilots from AN-2 (a great car!) To AN-28 were about to retrain, the feedback from those who had already flown was excellent, the very same for those conditions. Bottom line: we will fly on the L-410 (Polish-Czech production, it seems, I do not remember already). Well, you need help from the CMEA parasites! These stubs massively in the series did not go. AN-2s are still flying. They hacked the AN-28. How would you call it in Russian, that would not be banned?
    1. +2
      27 October 2015 17: 10
      Yes sho there ... our next cant ... ******** continue yourself ... :)
  12. +1
    27 October 2015 17: 05
    Patrol aviation is not only land, but also the sea and vast territories, the plane can be stuffed with universal equipment, used for rescue, to provide assistance, there will not be any UAV, I think the party will not be large and only for the Ministry of Defense, we need new planes, our own, I think if they allocate money, everything is within their power, there are many examples of this, the main thing is not to get involved in cooperation either with China or with other "partners"
  13. +4
    27 October 2015 17: 09
    Today is the 90th anniversary of the Legendary Heinrich Novozhilov! More should be written about him! Happy Birthday! Http: //www.mk.ru/social/2015/10/26/legendarnyy-aviakonstruktor-rasskaza
    l-pochemu-rossiya-perestala-stroit-aircraft-pokupaya-boingi.html
  14. +1
    27 October 2015 18: 01
    question with engines, the west is not an option Ukraine next 10 years, is there also a domestic analogue?
  15. +2
    27 October 2015 19: 42
    My 5 cents. It is necessary to use the backfill of the sv-27 fan fan of the stupino design bureau. After all, further implementation of the An-70 is not expected. Moreover, you can even put on the IL-112 that 114, unless of course to develop the further direction of the capotated explosives
  16. +1
    27 October 2015 20: 29
    I agree that the An70 engines are a pity. When launched into the series, it would be possible to overhaul the An-12 and Tu95. Interestingly, does it pass noise by modern standards? The Tu95 has problems with this. But Ilu 114 God himself became white in a large series to go, then there are no domestic competitors! Patrol, Transport, AWACS, Repeater, Interference Director, etc. on Ane - they missed such a project with a regional plane for the CIS.
  17. +2
    27 October 2015 21: 44
    They cancel, then renew, some kind of mess. This is a high-tech sphere, everything is tied to many years of careful planning, including production issues. It seems that in the country there is nowhere to put money stupidly. The authorities rush to and fro, then they grab it, then they throw it, money flies away like garbage, what's next? There will be some sort of regular crook, dear multinational Russian Mohammed Katsman. He will tell Rozogin about the prospects of capitalism, for an individual family, he will deceive the puncture line, again everything will be canceled and they will start sawing the same thing for the tenth time.
  18. 0
    27 October 2015 22: 20
    Interesting! And what about the funds that Russia once invested in the AN-70 project? Is there a lot to leave for pocket expenses for a country that claims to be sufficiently resistant to collapse and has identified its main enemy?
  19. 0
    27 October 2015 22: 30
    All are going to produce IL-114. I want to believe in it, I really want to, only there are fears that this will end in nothing, once again. The money in the reserve fund will end and the plane will go under the knife once again. And I want to believe in the best.

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