DAN: Ukrainian security forces opened fire on Donetsk airport

Early in the morning, the Ukrainian military began shelling the territory of Donetsk airport from a rifle weapons and mortar sheets RIA News message of the Donetsk agency News.




“About half an hour ago, the Ukrainian security forces opened fire on the territory of the Donetsk airport. The fire is conducted from mortars and small arms, ”the agency cites the words of the head of the Kuibyshev district of the city, Ivan Prikhodko.

According to his information, "one of the airport terminals is being bombarded by mines of caliber 120 millimeters."

Later came the message of a cease-fire.

“The shelling stopped at half past twelve,” a representative of the DPR Defense Ministry, Eduard Basurin, said at a briefing. “Thanks to the interaction of the JCCC and the OSCE mission, we were able to extinguish that hotbed of tension that lasted from the night.”

Recall from September 1 in the Donbass there is another truce, which, according to observers, is “mostly respected”. At present, the sides are gradually withdrawing from the contact line weapons with a caliber of less than 100 mm.
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    1. Lord of the Sith 27 October 2015 15: 48 New
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      I will write my review of the situation in Donetsk.

      Hello, it was hot here on the weekend, and specifically along the Sands-Vodyanoye-DAP-Spartak line. They say that under Gorlovka the Ukrainians also did not let the defenders of New Russia get bored.
      As they say, they did not have time to dry up the signatures in Minsk, as we all spoke up here, from small arms to mortars and tanks, but so far without artifacts ... But if in the summer it all started from 21-22 hours to 4 am, now everything starts from 18 p.m. to 3 a.m. Apparently due to the fact that it has become darker earlier, and the OSCE does not want to go to the place of shelling and record violations in the dark.
      It all starts as usual, first a rifle starts, machine guns, machine guns, sometimes a sniper works, if the militia begins to respond, then the AGSs and mortars try to cover the positions of the Armed Forces (Armed Forces of New Russia). But in the summer before the attack and immediately after the attack, I worked on the art of ukrov, and for some reason I worked far further behind the back of the BCH. Then now a maximum battery of 120 mm mortars, about 4 units. And yesterday, even a Ukrainian tank crawled out, fired two shots and back. But such actions here are not very effective, only ammunition (ammunition) is being harnessed ... Although maybe the goal is to provoke a response from the militia? The answer is, of course, if the dill gets somewhere or the militia is injured.
      At the weekend there was a very hot fight in the Pesky Vodyanoye area. Northwest of Donetsk heard well. The DRG of dill first tried to move closer to the positions of the BCH without noise, if the task was to capture the “tongue”, the roofing felts were smoked, or maybe they took revenge for the same operation of the militia at the dill post, when 5 VSUshnikov were killed and 2 were taken prisoner .
      DRG dill approached a throw distance of a grenade. The militia found them, a short skirmish ensued and even hand-to-hand fighting. The DRG was almost completely defeated, the remaining left, after which the Ukrainians began to cover the battlefield with mortars. A little later joined anti-aircraft gun 23-2 ...
      In summary:
      BCH: One 200th (killed) and one 300th (wounded).
      APU: Five 200s, there is no information about the wounded, there was no desire to crawl across the field and check the wounded dill. And by the way, right, as I wrote above, almost immediately after the battle, 120 mm mines began to pour in ...
      In general, everything returns to normal, as in the summer, stable evening shelling and shootings, and as we are accustomed to especially strong shootings on weekends, and Monday, like yesterday and Tuesday, are quiet.

      According to the situation in Donetsk, we have a lot of inhabitants returned, the number may be 100-150 thousand less than before the war, but almost all returned, of course, except for the residents of the northern and western regions of the city, and even those who lost business and left for other regions Russia to work.
      Food prices are still slowly but growing, about 3-4 times higher than in Ukraine. And we get pensions and salaries in rubles twice as high as in hryvnias. The head of the republic, A. Zakharchenko, in September, promised from November 1 to add salaries and pensions by 30%, as they say we will see.
      VSN and the police are all dressed up in new uniforms, the unloading on the guys even smells of plastic. The police and other services are looking at new cars driving around and these are not wrung out mottled cars like the National Guard of Ukraine. And the target receipt, the same models of various European brands and all new. The Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations transferred a lot of equipment for the Ministry of Emergencies of the DPR. Just think about it, the Russian ministry supplies the Ministry of Emergencies with the equipment of the unrecognized republic at the expense of its ministerial budget, not from some fund, but from its budget. So in all our ministries there is help from Russia, as a Russian region. This is the way to the issue of plum.
      While I am writing, outside the window I can hear 120 mm mines laying down ...
      All patience and health, take care of yourself.
      1. Corsair0304 27 October 2015 15: 52 New
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        Yes, the main thing you take care of yourself.
        1. Lord of the Sith 27 October 2015 16: 07 New
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          Message from Eduard Basurin.

          "Today, the Ukrainian security forces fired on the territory of the Donetsk airport from around 8:00 with the use of small arms and mortars. The Ukrainian security forces over the past day 21 times violated the" silence regime "on the line of contact with the DPR forces. Spartak and Zhabichevo settlements in the north the western suburbs of Donetsk, the vicinity of the Volvo Center in the Kuybyshevsky district of the capital and the territory of the Donetsk airport. The fire was fired from 82 mm and 120 mm mortars, grenade launchers and small arms. The DPR Ministry of Defense recorded 97 ceasefire violations by Ukrainian security forces in a week. the number of shellings took place during the local elections in Ukraine.Ukrainian security forces deployed 15 Uragan multiple launch rocket launchers to the southern part of the frontline.Another 150 militants of the Ukrainian nationalist battalion Aidar arrived in the occupied city of Maryinka.
      2. Sid.74 27 October 2015 16: 03 New
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        Here zhezh svidomye reptiles, all can not calm down. They are all looking for adventure on his fifth point. How much can you scoff at the Donetsk side ...sad
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        2. Persistent 27 October 2015 17: 14 New
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          There is a lull in the sky: Civil pilots were forbidden to fly to Kiev, and the military - the order has not yet been received ... laughing
      3. padded jacket 27 October 2015 16: 09 New
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        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Food prices are still slowly but growing, about 3-4 times higher than in Ukraine. And we get pensions and salaries in rubles twice as high as in hryvnias. The head of the republic, A. Zakharchenko, in September, promised from November 1 to add salaries and pensions by 30%, as they say we will see.

        I’m very glad that your peaceful life is gradually getting better, pensions and benefits began to be paid, and the fact that it’s “difficult” and in Russia is not very “sweet” in many respects thanks to the sanctions that the West, headed by the USA, imposed on our country for us actually saved the Russian people in the Crimea and Donbass. But gradually things will not get better for the first time and I hope the Donbass and then other parts of the former Ukraine will become part of our country, because we are one people.
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        VSN and the police are all dressed up in new uniforms, unloading on the guys even smell of plastic

        Indeed, you look at the photo from there and it is clear that both the supply of equipment and weapons is clearly at a different level compared to the beginning of the Slavyansk liberation movement. It is already extremely rare that a variegated form flickers and more and more equipment including heavy one.
        It seems to me that our “operation” in Syria also took place precisely because the people of Donbass, with the help of Russia, were able to create a really powerful and motivated army in the region which the Kiev regime is no longer afraid of.
        1. brisk 27 October 2015 17: 37 New
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          Quote: quilted jacket
          Donbass and then other parts of the former Ukraine will be part of our country because we are one people.


          Not ex, but real Ukraine. Ukraine was, is and will be. This is written to you by a resident and citizen of Ukraine from the southeastern Ukrainian city of Zaporozhye. Not from the central-western Vinnitsa or Khmelnitsky, and not from the dense Polessko-Selyansky Ukrainian Zhytomyr. And from the southeastern city of Ukraine, where the Dnieper on the Dnieper River. First, take an interest in the inhabitants of Ukraine --- do they want to be part of your country? If you come and ask them in person in the same Zaporozhye, you’ll get your sides too. So namut that you will groan for a long time. And not pravoseki, and not really, and Svidomo. And the most ordinary citizens of Ukraine. What are you so unceremonious? And it turns out from this on your part that is very impudent. I am not against unification into one country, so that no one would be offended at the same time. But by no means with the methods that you confess for the most part and bring to the world. And on Military Review and in particular. Why be surprised? The contingent here is specific, to be sure. Some of them are just green "patriots of the Russian world", they still understand very little. And the other part is hard-burned hard-wired soldiers. Unification is a very complex and long process, and delicate as well. At the same time, there should be a number of constructive reforms, ranging from amendments and enshrines in constitutions and numerous working laws, to the transfer of the capital from the odious multi-million city of Moscow to a very small town where there will be only 50 to 200 thousand inhabitants. Not more. Somewhere in Western Siberia. Closer to the geographical center of a large country. And without this, the new state will not take place.
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            HAM 27 October 2015 18: 28 New
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            Well, let's say, and not everyone wants to see people in their country who have been pouring mud on MY COUNTRY for 23 years, but as for the "soldier", you obviously got excited .....
            1. brisk 27 October 2015 19: 25 New
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              Quote: HAM
              HAM (2) Today, 18:28 ↑
              Well, let's say, and not everyone wants to see people in their country who have been pouring mud on MY COUNTRY for 23 years, but as for the "soldier", you obviously got excited .....


              Oh well. But what about the position of a comrade who advocates inclusion in the composition? And after all, honestly, there are more than a few of them on Military Review. Which do not just advocate for one country (which is certainly good !!), but initially reject Ukraine as a state --- "quasi-state", "under-state", "ok.r.ain," uk.raina, "ur .i. "," 404 "," incessant "," fake "," far-fetched nation "," ho.hly "," artificial language "," footmen "," traitors "," collaborators "," Hitler’s minions , "genetic traitors", "saloids", "universal forgive @ ducks on the tracks of Russia", "former Ukraine", etc. etc. You look closely, read these comments and past times. How many will there be? Yes, 20 to 25 percent will surely be filled with such extremes. For the smallest, so, purely intuitively, offhand ... Well, who pours mud on Russia in Ukraine? Ukrainians do not water. And Ukrainians --- I mean those who speak Ukrainian, and those who speak Russian. Both those and other Ukrainians. Citizens of Ukraine. I’m telling you this seriously. Do not believe? In vain. Maybe I, I am a Russian-speaking resident of Ukraine, somewhere in the comments on Vonnoye Obozreniye poured dirt on Russia? You are mistaken. They pour dirt and distort the facts and, as a result, the minds of some of the citizens, these are the media on the orders of those in power. Both in Ukraine and in Russia. And to unite, so yes, we must strive. Especially in the modern world. Close peoples should ideally be one. Who will deny that the Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians are the most closely related peoples? And they should strive to live as united as possible in the modern and, unfortunately, still very predatory world. But, for example, Turkmen cannot be added to our trinity. They are much more distant from us. And it’s quite possible to add Slovaks, they are kindred to us. How many people on earth? At least 7 billion. And how many people of our white race? Not more than 1 billion. Every seventh. There are more Chinese alone. And how many Slavs in the world? 300 million. Four times less than the Chinese. And besides the Chinese, there is another billionth of India, and another billion of the adjacent brown Asian belt - Pakistan, Bangladeshi, Afghanistan, Saud and others ... So make conclusions --- do you need monolithic solidarity for people of the endangered white race, and even more so 4% of the Slavic population of the Earth.
              1. dmi.pris 27 October 2015 22: 40 New
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                You know, over the past two years, Russia has practically stopped talking about unification with Ukraine ... That's it, bastards of karapuziki .. Vary in what is and what they wanted .. Unification is possible only with those people and territories who want it ..
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                Quote: HAM
                HAM (2) Today, 18:28 ↑
                Well, let's say, and not everyone wants to see people in their country who have been pouring mud on MY COUNTRY for 23 years, but as for the "soldier", you obviously got excited .....


                Oh well. But what about the position of a comrade who advocates inclusion in the composition? And after all, honestly, there are more than a few of them on Military Review. Which do not just advocate for one country (which is certainly good !!), but initially reject Ukraine as a state --- "quasi-state", "under-state", "ok.r.ain," uk.raina, "ur .i. "," 404 "," incessant "," fake "," far-fetched nation "," ho.hly "," artificial language "," footmen "," traitors "," collaborators "," Hitler’s minions , "genetic traitors", "saloids", "universal forgive @ ducks on the tracks of Russia", "former Ukraine", etc. etc. You look closely, read these comments and past times. How many will there be? Yes, 20 to 25 percent will surely be filled with such extremes. For the smallest, so, purely intuitively, offhand ... Well, who pours mud on Russia in Ukraine? Ukrainians do not water. And Ukrainians --- I mean those who speak Ukrainian, and those who speak Russian. Both those and other Ukrainians. Citizens of Ukraine. I’m telling you this seriously. Do not believe? In vain. Maybe I, I am a Russian-speaking resident of Ukraine, somewhere in the comments on Vonnoye Obozreniye poured dirt on Russia? You are mistaken. They pour dirt and distort the facts and, as a result, the minds of some of the citizens, these are the media on the orders of those in power. Both in Ukraine and in Russia. And to unite, so yes, we must strive. Especially in the modern world. Close peoples should ideally be one. Who will deny that the Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians are the most closely related peoples? And they should strive to live as united as possible in the modern and, unfortunately, still very predatory world. But, for example, Turkmen cannot be added to our trinity. They are much more distant from us. And it’s quite possible to add Slovaks, they are kindred to us. How many people on earth? At least 7 billion. And how many people of our white race? Not more than 1 billion. Every seventh. There are more Chinese alone. And how many Slavs in the world? 300 million. Four times less than the Chinese. And besides the Chinese, there is another billionth of India, and another billion of the adjacent brown Asian belt - Pakistan, Bangladeshi, Afghanistan, Saud and others ... So make conclusions --- do you need monolithic solidarity for people of the endangered white race, and even more so 4% of the Slavic population of the Earth.
                1. brisk 28 October 2015 01: 01 New
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                  That's it, basta karapuziki

                  Die like that with music! Sing along, brothers! And we will sing! laughing
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                HAM 28 October 2015 09: 34 New
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                ".... Seriously, I’m telling you this. Do not believe me? It is in vain. Maybe I, I am a Russian-speaking Ukrainian, somewhere in the comments on the Wonderful Review poured dirt on Russia ...?"


                PERSONALY I EVERY DAY COMMUNICATES WITH RESIDENTS OF UKRAINE, BY RADIO (I A RADIO AMATEUR), AND ALREADY BELIEVE, I HAVE HEREKED FOR ANY ABNORMALITY, I EVEN EVEN UNDERSTAND THESE WORDS .... SORRY FROM YEARS, ALREADY, ALREADY, FROM SOME ONE FAMILY MEMBERSVINY IN Your troublesLITTLE ALL RELATIVES FROM RUSSIA.
          2. samarin1969 27 October 2015 18: 50 New
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            "First, take an interest in the inhabitants of Ukraine --- do they want to be part of your country?"

            Shanovnyy pan svelto ... In 1991, they didn’t particularly ask me if I wanted to Ukraine ... More precisely, hundreds of thousands of Crimeans asked me and didn’t give a damn about their answer ...

            If the Kremlin will be profitable, then some of the territory of Ukraine will become Russian provinces.
            1. brisk 27 October 2015 19: 44 New
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              Quote: samarin1969
              If the Kremlin will be profitable, then some of the territory of Ukraine will become Russian provinces.


              The more there will be in Russia such as you, gracious sovereign samarin1969, the farther away will be the Ukrainian "provinces" from Russia ... And do not even doubt it. Tested and seasoned! And about 1991, all the questions for Gorbachev, Yeltsin and the Muscovites who supported them then, who on August 18-21, 1991 in Moscow threw themselves under tanks, and who couldn’t take it. They will give you answers. You are currently a pest in Russia. The same pest as for Ukraine in 1992 was the pest Khmara S.I. MP then. Remember that one? With such your reports about "wanted" and "province" you are a pest. Russia in the first place. Believe me, svelto1964. And those 1/3 of the territory of Donbass, the sho of "non-control", so are I and my fellow citizens in the absolute majority and all the other predominant Ukraine in the person of its citizens, so that they become provinces. Of course, the RF provinces. How simple it is for you! Because CMEA you (and we, too), and Warsaw. contract and much, much more was lost. Because historically there are always a lot of people like you, Ukharov, in Russia. Unfortunately.
          3. UREC 27 October 2015 19: 57 New
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            Yes, no one in RUSSIA especially wants to unite with kaklami. We want to unite with the Russians who, after the collapse of the USSR, were on the outskirts.
            1. brisk 27 October 2015 20: 11 New
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              UREC (1) Today, 19:57 PM ↑ New
              Yes, no one in RUSSIA especially wants to unite with kaklami. We want to unite with the Russians who, after the collapse of the USSR, were on the outskirts.


              Can you speak Russian generally accepted? Who are the Kakly? Unclear. I speak Russian, but I am a resident of Ukraine. And we have millions of them. If you want to unite with the Russians, why then still have not accepted into the Russian Federation those 1/3 of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions that were called New Russia? Why? This is 17 thousand square kilometers. And most importantly (!!!) there are 3 million new Russians. Or in simple Russian language. Why didn’t the provinces accept those who want with all the fibers of their souls to be part of the Russian Federation? Mr. Samarin1969 noted that if you want to say everything will be provinces ... Well, if not all, then half or at least 1/3 of the "Outskirts" for sure ... And then people fought and fought, but they don’t even think of taking them as provinces ( or federal districts). 3 million people !!! This is despite the fact that in the Russian Federation there is a catastrophic lack of population. And then the Slavs, not Central Asia! And they don’t take them. So do you want to team up with the Russians? !!
              1. saber 27 October 2015 20: 19 New
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                on the basis of what can we accept them? on the grounds that there are Russians?
              2. samarin1969 27 October 2015 20: 31 New
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                Here I agree with you ... Unfortunately, the Kremlin and the peoples of Russia often have different interests in relation to all Russians ... The Kremlin is pursuing a policy for which the Russkiy Mir is just an unsuccessful, unpromising project ...
              3. avia1991 28 October 2015 02: 26 New
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                Quote: svelto
                I speak Russian, but I am a resident of Ukraine.

                I note to you, Clemens (note: a typical "Russian" name! wink ) I’m not laughing at the name, but about your positioning: speak Russian, and BE Russian is, as they say, two big differences!
                Because you don’t understand us, you don’t understand that your attempts to argue with everyone, to answer HERE to everyone is useless, moreover, your "sociability" with your head betrays the "mishandled Cossack" from the Ukrainian "info army". laughing "I am Russian, from Zaporozhye!" - it sounds to you just like the "Daughter of an officer from Sevastopol" sounded at one time. A clear underline in the comments
                Quote: svelto
                1/3 of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, what were called New Russia?
                speaks about your attitude towards our real brothers - those who were not afraid to rise against the Kiev junta, did not "fall" under the Natsik, unlike you - otherwise why do you live quietly in a country ruled by state criminals ?!
                Come on, Mr. Clemens, it’s better "to yours" - to the Censor. There you will put more pluses. And tell the customers of your local opuses that Russia will not be led to any “unification” until gentlemen like Parashenka rule the ball. Yes - also to your "sponsors", Americans, tell me that they should restore the economy, which would help them to collapse. Russia will no longer do this at its own expense!
                Adieu hi
                Thoughts: by the way, you spoke out here about the "contingent" in the VO, the "inappropriate" .. maybe you are not a "zealot" (although you’re very cunning in it), but sorry: if you are not comfortable with the environment - THEN THEN YOU DO HERE?
                1. brisk 28 October 2015 02: 57 New
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                  Quote: avia1991
                  Thoughts: by the way, you spoke out here about the "contingent" in the VO, the "inappropriate" .. maybe you are not a "zealot" (although you’re very cunning in it), but sorry: if you are not comfortable with the environment - THEN THEN YOU DO HERE?


                  Yes, I’m not mishandled. By itself. Although it’s hard for you to prove such a thing ... In the police, have you ever been caught? At the same time being a law-abiding and innocent normal citizen? Did you notice how they talk with normal people? As with criminals. They breathe that atmosphere, they live in it. They do not represent another. So here you exist in your atmosphere, and anything else, even slightly different, is all from the “censor” and other people who send it.
                  1. avia1991 28 October 2015 03: 21 New
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                    Quote: svelto
                    Ever hit the police? At the same time being a law-abiding and innocent normal citizen?
                    I got it. And NOT guilty. So what? For the cops, this is really the norm. Yes, and take a “pontoon” way: if there is a sin, look and it will crack? But no - well, Vali, dear, for all four! I personally take this quite calmly.
                    Quote: svelto
                    That's the way you exist here in your atmosphere, and any other, even slightly different
                    It makes me understandable suspicions! And what's wrong with that? "The enemy is not asleep!" You still have not answered my question: if you are not satisfied with the people HERE, then why are you HERE? ..
                    Or already sick of communicating with their Natsik? wink
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                      You still have not answered my question: if you are not satisfied with the people HERE, then why are you HERE? ..


                      But because I'm not from the Censor. If it were like that of the Censor, then, of course, it wouldn’t be close either. I saw your Military Review for the first time in 2012, in the month of August. And then he was delighted with him. He enthusiastically invited him to read to relatives and friends. But for a year now, alas, all that enthusiasm has not come close. And then, I know for myself some things that are sure to come true. Over time, not so big. But I will not disclose all this to you here. Because you don’t like it here. You will not accept it now. At present, anyway. No, no, don’t worry, these are not the banderlog dreams. But not those that you now would have caused delight. You are just NOT READY to them yet. Just a thing. Do you know what is embedded in this concept --- "society is not yet ready"? I didn’t know either, but then I understood. Although I will not formulate it in words. I believe my instincts. When I don’t tell anyone in advance, it will come true. Even up to natural disasters --- earthquakes, etc. Now, if I live, then after three years I’ll remind myself here again. And then we’ll talk more substantively and in a different tone.
                      1. Belgorod 28 October 2015 12: 06 New
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                        these are not those banderlog dreams. But not those that you now would have caused delight. You are just NOT READY to them yet. Just a thing. Do you know what is embedded in this concept --- "society is not yet ready"? I didn’t know either, but then I understood. Although I will not formulate it in words. I believe my instincts. When I don’t tell anyone in advance, it will come true. Even up to natural disasters --- earthquakes, etc. Now, if I live, then after three years I’ll remind myself here again. And then we’ll talk more substantively and in a different tone.

                        Love, don’t you understand what?
                        Yes, no one wants to unite with you, and never will
                        Why do we need you? With your murdered industry (will we have to rebuild it at our own expense?)
                        With your Bandera-Khokhlyat minsklet? (yaku on gilyaku)
                        Do you want me to say what will happen next
                        There will be a fragmentation of Ukraine into parts and absorption in parts of the Russian Federation
                        Crimea is already in Russia, Donbass and Lugansk almost, in Russia. Further Kharkov, Odessa, Nikolaev and Kherson (by the way, these regions have nothing to do with Ukraine)
                        And then Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporozhye, etc.
                      2. avia1991 28 October 2015 18: 00 New
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                        Quote: svelto
                        I believe my instincts.

                        Flair - a thing not very reliable. Especially when it’s not about the personal life of an individual person, but about the fate of peoples - you allude to something like that, right?
                        A particularly thankless task is to trust instinct in relation to Russia: in History there is a lot of evidence that Russia does not lend itself to logic, does not follow the beaten path - and, in general, an unpredictable lady laughing
                        Quote: svelto
                        for a year now, alas, all that enthusiasm has not come close.
                        And for this it is necessary to thank your "Panov" with Bandera! If they didn’t make a coup, people would not be brutalized HERE.
                        Quote: svelto
                        Do you know what is embedded in this concept --- "society is not yet ready"?
                        I know. As well as the fact that changes in society are made by individuals - only 5% of the active population. The rest of the “society” faces a fact, and is forced to accept the new Reality in the form in which it is presented by this minority.
                        Quote: svelto
                        three years later, I’ll remind myself here again. And then we’ll talk more substantively and in a different tone.

                        Interesting: is it HOW "in another"? Is it not in the "team"? belay
                        I do not advise you in advance if such delusional thoughts visit you. hi
              4. jPilot 28 October 2015 06: 02 New
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                Dear, let me insert your 3 pennies. First of all, do not pay attention to “kakly” and other offensive words for the simple reason that this does not apply to adequate people who want to live in a peaceful, friendly Russia country (judging by your notes, you relate specifically to those). And in order for the media to stop propaganda for the issue of joining Russia, your media would stop propaganda, because even on your records you can see how your brains about our Russian arrogance are ironed.
                And with the admission of Novorossia to Russia, we don’t need to poke our nose when the time comes and there will be an appropriate situation, we will accept everyone as relatives, rest assured.
                And about the emergence of the country Ukraine, please kindly read the story, only not the one in which "ancient Ukrainians lol dug up the black sea.
                By the way, why did you get the idea that Russia is catastrophically lacking in population belay, YES we have more open spaces than we are rich, but this does not mean that our population density should be like in Europa and I didn’t want to. Here we love to go out into the open field, and yell in a youthful voice "E-he-pederast bl ... me !!!" laughing
                And we are fighting for the birth rate because of the sensitive governance of the country by the EBN and its liberal government, as a result of which it has catastrophically fallen, but we are already coping with this.
                By the way, something from your very maydaun has not heard from our mass media outrages regarding Ukraine, and it’s very close to you, and it’s not interrupted.
                And it so happened that now I work in a place where there are a lot of workers from Ukraine, and both from this side (DNI, LC) and from your side. Since the personnel officer of the reserve is naturally interested in what and how I have a very actual picture. The other day, one friend went after orphans to his grandchildren, his daughter was raped and killed, her husband (a former militia sniper) disappeared and this was after a truce, just the other day, so that’s about “KAKLOV”, “Hitler’s minions” ... ..... and the rest.
                So before we poke a speck in the eye, first remove the log from your own. And time will put everything in its place. And Bandera fans say hello.
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                  Dear moderators, neighing for a long time over the correction. lol it’s even impossible to describe the fellow exclamation “Egegei” correctly, damn it. This is already an excess. Pure morals and language are certainly good, but still
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                  By the way, why did you get the idea that Russia has a catastrophic lack of population, YES we have large open spaces, which are rich, but this does not mean that our population density should be like in Europa and I didn’t want to.


                  For the Russian Federation, it is now OPTIMAL to have 350 million people. And in the future, it would be possible to slowly bring the maximum to 400 million. And more really is no longer necessary. And that would just be 23 people per 1 square kilometer. With 350 million people. For comparison: the population density in France is 115 people per 1 square kilometer, the population density in the USA is 34 people per 1 square kilometer. The population density of vaunted China is 140 people per 1 square kilometer. So if in the Russian Federation there would now be 350 million people, and the density would be 23 people per 1 square kilometer, then what --- for the state it would be bad ?! Would people be crowded ?! How much less would it be than in today's China? 140/23 = 6. As much as 6 times there would be a lower density! What would be crowded with people ?! And now, 150 million people are rounded up in the Russian Federation (according to official statistics from Rosstat, 147 million). And the population density is rounded up to 9 people per 1 square kilometer (eight and a half, to be more precise). This is small, it is very small, for such a large state as the Russian Federation!
                  1. avia1991 28 October 2015 18: 09 New
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                    23 people per 1 square kilometer,

                    "Love" you, however, us - Russians! What is this - do you propose to pave the whole north with people, all lands unsuitable for life? ..
                    And if we, as he said jPilot, love the space ?!
                    We are quite happy with what we have. And to change the situation, or not to change - we ourselves decide it somehow. And then something a lot lately "external advisers" appeared! wassat
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                  Here we love to go out into the open field, and yell in a young voice "E-ge-ped

                  Neighing too! laughing good
          4. saber 27 October 2015 20: 13 New
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            in order to take an interest in the inhabitants of present-day Ukraine, you first need to isolate them for six months from the TV. and then ask, how?
          5. lukke 27 October 2015 20: 18 New
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            And by what "methods" does Russia capture new countries or lands - name at least one? Crimea? I myself know from there that the Crimeans for the most part were happy to return to Russia (I don’t take the dumb head part of the youth who studied in Kiev and absorbed independence or who came with their parents from other regions of Ukraine for posts, but they were really miserable and nobody forcibly kept them). South Ossetia? - while independent. What else did we take there? Donbass? it seems not to be part of Russia. And at the expense of the capital 100% I agree with you, you must transfer it to Western Siberia or the Urals!) But believe me, transferring the capital will in no way affect the attractiveness of Russia as a country for living in general! There are no special privileges for certain in the Russian Federation and will not be - everything is on common rights and the collective farm is voluntary. To my chagrin, on the contrary, Russia does not join those who want to - there are so many courageous ones in Transnistria.
            1. brisk 27 October 2015 20: 47 New
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              But believe me, the transfer of the capital will in no way affect the attractiveness of Russia as a country for living in general!


              Why, then, Australia and Canada moved their capitals from cities of millions to small towns? Well, those Anglo-Saxons, by their current fashion, are not credible to Russians. Then Brazil. A new city was specially built to move the capital there from the largest city in the country, Rio de Janeiro. They realized that the capital is exorbitantly pumping resources for its needs from all over the country. And for the needs of all residents of the capital. No wonder that in Moscow the standard of living is strikingly higher than the average Russian. The same is Kiev, and many, many other capitals. If not all 100%. There is a difference whether the capital, in which 12 million people, with the rest of the 150 million Russia, will be pumped out, or is the capital in which 100 thousand people? I have no bad attitude towards Muscovites, among them there are many normal and good people. But nevertheless, over many centuries Moscow has absorbed both the bright sides and many very dark ones. I painted my vision of the situation in sufficient detail. The main emphasis was on hostility, often not realized. And neglect of other nations and countries. And what, here is even such a fine touch --- "in Ukraine", and "in Ukraine". Russian philologists from the leading philological institute of Russia have already recognized that in this current situation, according to the norms (!) Of the Russian language, the phrase "in Ukraine" is correct. No, all the same, at all levels in Russia --- from the presidential-governmental and ministerial to website commentators, in all mass media --- newspapers, television ... --- they persistently use "in Ukraine". At the top they begin, at the very bottom they finish. They do not know what is right according to the norms of the Russian language? They know. But they do it in spite. To express his contemptuous attitude towards Ukraine and its inhabitants. How can one not recall the "under-state" and "404"! That is, contempt for Ukrainians. Ukrainians live in Ukraine. Regardless of which language they originally speak, --- Ukrainian or Russian.
              1. saber 27 October 2015 21: 01 New
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                the Australian and Canadian capital are less years old than the Bolshoi, for example. although the idea of ​​transferring at least part of the functions to the regions is sound. Regarding the stroke - Nizhny Novgorod has a satellite town - Bor (it is right behind the Volga, on the other side). So, its inhabitants do not live in Bor, but ON Bor. and no one considers this a contemptuous attitude, should you learn? As I said -NA Ukraine is 35 years old, I will continue to do so, despite the papers signed by someone once. My children’s school will be taught differently, in health, but I’m already used to it in Bor, in Ukraine ....
                1. brisk 27 October 2015 21: 41 New
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                  So, its inhabitants do not live in Bor, but ON Bor. and no one considers this a contemptuous attitude, should you learn? As I said -NA Ukraine is 35 years old, I will continue to do so, despite the papers signed by someone once. My children’s school will be taught differently, in health, but I’m already used to it in Bor, in Ukraine ....


                  But who can forbid you to speak as you see fit? You are a joker. Did I in such a format have a conversation with you --- "prohibit", "allow"? What are you really ... Bor is just a satellite city, and not a separate country on the world map. They even speak of the Urals “in the Urals”, and not “in the Urals”. But for some reason about Siberia it was customary "in Siberia", and not "in Siberia."

                  The names of states in Russian are combined with the preposition "in" (except for the brief names of some island states, which are primarily associated with islands, not countries: "in Cuba", "in Cyprus", "in Haiti" - but "in Ireland "," in Iceland "because they are perceived primarily as countries, and not as islands);

                  the preposition “on” is characteristic not of countries, but of geographical territories with unclearly defined borders. With the names of countries (except island), the preposition "in" is usually used. Therefore, for example, it says "in Russia" (where "Russia" is a rather vague concept, either historical, or geographical, or "spiritual", it does not know where it begins and ends), but "in Russia" - in the Russian state.

                  From this point of view, speaking of Ukraine as a state with clearly defined borders and status, the preposition “in” should be used - at least in a fairly official context.

                  If you are interested, take about 15 minutes and read on this topic quite comprehensive answers from qualified specialists in the Russian language:
                  http://gn.org.ua/in_ua
                  1. saber 27 October 2015 22: 33 New
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                    Before us is a table. On the table is a glass and a fork. What are they doing? A glass is standing, and a fork is lying. If we stick the plug in the countertop, the plug will stand. Those. are vertical objects, but are horizontal?
                    Add a plate and a pan to the table. They seem to be horizontal, but stand on the table. Now put the plate in the pan. There she lies, but stood on the table. Maybe there are items ready for use? No, the plug was ready when she lay.
                    Now a cat climbs onto the table. She can stand, sit and lie. If in terms of standing and lying, it somehow creeps into the “vertical-horizontal” logic, then sitting is a new property. She is sitting on the pope.
                    Now a bird has sat on the table. She sits on the table, but sits on her feet, not on the pope. Although it seems to be standing. But she cannot stand at all. But if we kill the poor bird and make a scarecrow, it will stand on the table.
                    It may seem that sitting is an attribute of the living, but the boot also sits on the leg, although it is not alive and has no priests.
                    So, go and understand what is standing, what is lying, and what is sitting. And we are still surprised that foreigners find our language difficult and compare with Chinese.

                    and yet, if you did not notice, then a link to
                    Quote: svelto
                    quite comprehensive answers of qualified specialists in the Russian language:
                    you gave to the Ukrainian website
                    Quote: svelto
                    http://gn.org.ua/in_ua

                    anyway, as if on a North Korean site they were discussing the topic of democracy in the USA. Again, you have a reason to think! I will read official work on this subject with pleasure
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                      Quote: Saber

                      and yet, if you did not notice, then a link to
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                      quite comprehensive answers of qualified specialists in the Russian language: you gave to the Ukrainian website
                      Quote: svelto
                      http://gn.org.ua/in_ua
                      anyway, as if on a North Korean site they were discussing the topic of democracy in the USA. Again, you have a reason to think! I will read official work on this subject with pleasure

                      Bravo, Maxim! good
                      I wanted to note the same, but managed to read your comment. Nothing to add!
                  2. S-cream 27 October 2015 23: 14 New
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                    Quote: svelto
                    If you are interested, take about 15 minutes and read on this topic quite comprehensive answers from qualified specialists in the Russian language:
                    http://gn.org.ua/in_ua
                    It’s great to give a link to the Ukrainian “study” on Russian language.

                    When the cat has nothing to do, he licks the eggs, but it's okay, he is the cat. But when a person wants to be different from others, stand out, he comes up with new rules. For self-identification, yeah. But in fact - brains need to stand out. In the direction of their brains, development.
                  3. scorpiosys 28 October 2015 00: 07 New
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                    ... in Kamchatka, in the Urals, in Sakhalin, in the Kuban ...., in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Uzbekistan ...
                    1. brisk 28 October 2015 00: 46 New
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                      scorpiosys (5) Today, 00:07 ↑ New
                      ... in Kamchatka, in the Urals, in Sakhalin, in the Kuban ...., in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Uzbekistan ...


                      You write everything correctly. Just specify that the Urals, Kuban, Sakhalin are regions of the state of Russia. Therefore, there is the pretext "on." And Belarus and Uzbekistan are countries. Do you understand the difference? Therefore, there is the pretext "in." You say and write “in Uzbekistan”, not “in Uzbekistan”, “in Belarus”, and not “in Belarus”. Because they are countries, not regions or regions of another country ... And Ukraine is also a country, like Uzbekistan is a country, like Belarus is a country ... Why then do you say and write "in Ukraine" and not "in Ukraine "as in the case of the first two countries? You know, just a year ago, this question didn’t bother me at all, but I used it in my life without thinking, most likely more often than not. Maybe even just one on. Now I can’t even remember, because I didn’t pay such attention. Until I began to study it more closely and delve into the essence of the phenomenon in the past and this year. And not only this issue.
                      1. jPilot 28 October 2015 06: 24 New
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                        Buddy Maybe you are simply suffering from imaginary, or trying to invent a grudge where it does not exist. And you yourself understand what you are writing about, they always talked about Belarus (I mean the USSR) to Belarus, as well as "to Uzbekistan" although all this was one GREAT POWER. Moreover, note this question arose precisely after the collapse of the USSR, but it does not seem to you that it was from this that the puppeteers began to stick a crowbar of discord. And you are still being fooled by this crap and portraying resentment where it does not exist.
                        Well, by the way, my grandmother was from Ukraine, her last living sister lives in Dnepropetrovsk, and my father was an honored Ukraine hockey coach, originally from Ivano-Frankivsk, and I am a RUSSIAN officer.
              2. bocsman 27 October 2015 21: 17 New
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                Mr. Ukrainians have cereal in their heads from poor-quality media and “smart” arguments in the kitchen. The "Orange Revolution" taught nothing and the result of the Maidan! As a result, the betrayal of their brothers both in the territory of their country and abroad. Here in Latvia they conduct something like an exhibition "Maidan People", so the organizers complain that they never accepted us like that anywhere! Harness, break, works of "art"! She hung in bewilderment! And I will say why. The people and the EU and the SS are full! And you have “Svelto” all ahead so take courage! And offensive comments should not be offended. Only a loved one can betray, the enemy does not betray! Hence the resentment with all the ensuing consequences!
                1. brisk 27 October 2015 21: 53 New
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                  Only a loved one can betray, the enemy does not betray! Hence the resentment with all the ensuing consequences!


                  Ah, that’s how it is! Well, if my fellow citizens and I are enemies for you, then then everything is clear to you. Fortunately, not everyone in Russia is like bocsman. But however, in the Russian Federation there are not so many those who say publicly as they think. Especially if it goes against the now fashionable "patriotism". Otherwise, you will not be a patriot. Then who are you? Right. Liberast. And since the liberalist, then 5 column. And the enemy of the state and people. And such a thing must be at least immediately puke. For Ukraine, you can not bring a bunch of the most terrible counterarguments. Deficiencies now in Ukraine rampart! Val! The most serious shortcomings. But look at yourself as well.
                  1. lukke 27 October 2015 22: 08 New
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                    Compared to the style of such an advanced and democratic site as the enlightened Censor, comrade bocsman, he behaves and writes as a graduate of the Institute of Culture and Art)
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                      lukke (6) Today, 22:08 PM ↑ New
                      Compared to the style of such an advanced and democratic site as the enlightened Censor, comrade bocsman, he behaves and writes as a graduate of the Institute of Culture and Art)


                      And what other Ukrainian sites do you know, besides the Censor? Always here, for some reason, only the Censor is cited as an example. Yes, sometimes I look at this site. Well what can I tell you ... The site is marginal. The audience there is the same. But just imagine - hundreds and a half of dropouts and morons, many of whom just a year or two ago just graduated from school, are clever on political topics and the theme of patriotism ... This is already a dependency --- come and bark ... What can you expect from their discussions and what is the value of their comments? I figured that 95 percent to 98 percent of the censor’s comments are slag, smelly and harmful slag ... And in the remaining 2 to 5 percent, sound reasoning can also be found. Most of the guests of the Censor are nothing of themselves, since they don’t know anything else but to spoil this site and other places on the World Wide Web ... So the Censor is a network sedimentation tank in Ukraine. But it doesn’t come to my mind to judge the general culture of all Russian citizens by the culture of the comments of the participants of the Russian Resource Udava website ...
                  2. Belgorod 27 October 2015 23: 42 New
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                    Yes, we draw attention to ourselves. Do not worry
                    Well, if you and my fellow citizens are enemies for you

                    For the enemy you need expensive. The enemy deserves respect, and you, apart from squeamishness, do not cause any feelings. Moreover, I live on the border with Ukraine and talked a lot with your brother.
                    It was a shock for me when in 2013 I got to the forum I read a lot of interesting “facts and opinions” about Russians and about Russia.
                    The most interesting thing is that for two and a half years I have not heard “Ukraine should”. Russia is obligatory and obligatory for Ukraine, I heard that. But Russia owes the whole world to Ukraine ...
                    If you want a normal relationship, stop making a sacrifice of yourself and fight around your neighbors, throw a stone out of your bosom, and stop envying us.
                    And my advice, get smarter soon.
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                      throw the stone out of your sinus and stop envious of us.


                      Well, that is unlikely. The worst will not allow it. What is the concept of the Western establishment in relation to the countries of Eastern Europe and the former Ukraine, including campaigning with a GOOD WORD for "Western values", and if it doesn’t work out with a kind word, then it is a GOOD WORD with a GISTILE TO WHISKEY (or - pay the bills with interest). The trouble with these countries is that “the bills” will be paid by the population, ordinary Ivana and Alesi, and not Pedra and Arsenia. bully
                    2. brisk 28 October 2015 02: 04 New
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                      For the enemy you need expensive. The enemy deserves respect, and you, apart from squeamishness, do not cause any feelings. Moreover, I live on the border with Ukraine and talked a lot with your brother.


                      Your clarification was very interesting that you live on the border with Ukraine and "you know our brother well." Are our brother residents of Ukraine? And how did you know them well, based on the fact that you live near the border? Is this an advantage --- to live near the border with Ukraine in order to get to know Ukraine and Ukrainians? You can see the negative to the inhabitants of Ukraine. Well, to the Ukrainians. In Ukraine, you also distinguish Russians who are good, not like the “kakelam” (the classification is not entirely clear, how do you distinguish them --- by the language of their communication?). So how do Ukrainians show themselves poorly at the border with Russia? If you remember, then in the late 1960s, on the Soviet-Chinese border, the Chinese did such a trick. Standing on their territory, they lined up on the shore of the border river, pulled down their trousers and showed their naked joe @ fy towards the Soviet coast. But the Soviet border guards quickly found a completely neutralizing answer. They began to exhibit portraits of Mao Zi Dong. And the Chinese had to put their pants back on. For it is very bad to show the dear Chairman a bare back seat ... I hope that "my brothers Ukrainians" do not do something similar on the border with Russia?
                      1. Belgorod 28 October 2015 11: 33 New
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                        You yourself understood what you wrote?
                        What does China have to do with ?????
                        Yes, we have half of Belgorod has relatives in Ukraine! We studied in Kharkov! When the USSR went to Kharkov for clothes and sausage, they came to us for cheese and carp. In recent years, entire complexes have been built for Belgorod residents (we went to Kharkov to have fun, like Americans on Kuba to Fidel).
                        I worked in a representative office (Kharkov branch), talked a lot about work.
                        So I ask, maybe you are the "daughter of an officer"?
                        You "don’t chop a chip" at all, you don’t understand the whole situation. We don’t give a damn about whether you’re in Khokhlov or who has relatives in Ukraine.
                        My opinion about people from Ukraine is friendly, polite. Very pleasant in communication (compared to Muscovites).
                        But, here are the facts over the past two years
                        My wife and sister went to the Caucasus (due to dill debelism we have to travel through Rossosh) We arrived at the station at two in the night, forty minutes to the train. Cuptley in a stall for a cup of coffee. The saleswoman poured poketiki with a coffee into a cup and filled it with COLD water. When she was shown this, she started screaming. Putin is to blame!
                        What does Putin have to do with it?
                        A friend last summer met refugees at the border (on duty - employment center)
                        "At first it was a pity, now not."
                        Ukrainians constantly come to work at their sister-in-law (they bring vodka, etc.) and they talk "for life". Here is her opinion - "Yes, you go ...."
                        Last year, I talked with a Kharkiv citizen (note that they weren’t mendonous, even for a turn), went on business. I look, hesitates, and ask him, and he told me, "Is it true that in Russia riots since salmon disappeared in taverns?" My jaw dropped open
                        Teacher - "refugee" in the classroom - "You, I'm a complete asshole"
                        Acquaintances and relatives on Skype, VKontakte, etc. send very far ...
                        And this is only a small part of what I know.
                        And now the question is How will we relate to you
                        Therefore, I say, change your attitude towards Russia, some of you will have to live here, and some will cooperate with us.
                  3. avia1991 28 October 2015 02: 54 New
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                    Especially if it goes against the now fashionable "patriotism".

                    This is not a “now fashionable” quality, but characteristic of a Russian person! You - do not understand, so do not try.
                    Well, as for “few people will say it publicly”: I’ll remind you of your own words: “ask the Cossacks if they want to go to Russia and they’ll hurt you.” . and in the media, for some reason, he doesn’t bring them to the hospital, or even to the grave. And they don’t put them in jail for that .. SO WHAT DO YOU TALK ABOUT? Who and where is afraid to openly express their position? Are we in Russia - or are you in Ukraine ?! (territory with vague borders - right? Now it is!)
                  4. TVM - 75 28 October 2015 05: 56 New
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                    How to name a country that begs money from another, declaring it an enemy and going to fight with it? Top senility! And this figure is still crucifying about universal values. It is more appropriate to name this country simply - Chamber No. 6.
              3. lukke 27 October 2015 21: 50 New
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                As the Russians said "In Ukraine" (and not in the state of Ukraine) they will, as they said in Alaska (and not in the US state of Alaska), they will. At the expense of the rules of correctness for the first time I hear from you. And in addition to the norms, there is still a question of perception, the temporary quasi-state of Ukraine, or that territory as part of the Russian lands that have been called so from the last centuries.
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                  At the expense of the rules of correctness for the first time I hear from you. And in addition to the norms, there is still a question of perception, the temporary quasi-state of Ukraine, or that territory as part of the Russian lands that have been called so from the last centuries.


                  If you used the word “quasi-state” now, then all my efforts, all my attempts to convey to you at least something other than the frames established by the Military Review regarding “Ukrainians and the mistakes of the nature of the outskirts of Hohland 404” remained not fulfilled hopes. Everything turned out to be in vain. Use as you like.
                  1. lukke 27 October 2015 22: 21 New
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                    quasi-state is the reality of this time, characterizing the concept of artificially created public education on lands with a population that was initially largely alien to the culture that the establishment took as a basis for development and a benchmark for the majority of the population, and in a violent way, when from school children begin to hammer some nonsense. I'm on the paternal side - the so-called "dog tail", i.e. from the Zaporizhzhya Cossacks and I’m not trying to embellish or "rewrite" the history of those places and people for myself - did they take citizenship from Katya through Potemkin? accepted! (For example, mine didn’t at first - they went to the Ottomans and were still in the Trans-Danube Sich, then they still fought with the Turks, were forgiven and received land in the Tauride province). Most peasants in today's Zaporozhye were imported from other provinces of the Russian Empire? It was delivered. So what state are you talking about there? a descendant of a peasant woman from the Tambov province? I apologize for exaggerated rudeness)
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                      So what state are you talking about there? a descendant of a peasant woman from the Tambov province? I apologize for exaggerated rudeness)


                      That's right. States are inventions and creations of people, not Nature. Like the same islands, continents, oceans, Nature created ... And the states have already bungled people, the same people as you and me ... With your passions, whims, weaknesses, impudence ... What are you really really ?! I’m indignant that they added to my hometown of Zaporozhye with a last year’s resolution. I always believed that Zaporozhye was founded in 1770. But last year they decided to consider the year of its foundation 952! What is it ?! And do you seriously think that I can approve of this and I might like it?
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                        Duck what the fuck you look at this junta. what do you expect from them. what do you expect from this corrupt bunch of politicians. afraid of banderlog?
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                      So what state are you talking about there? a descendant of a peasant woman from the Tambov province? I apologize for exaggerated rudeness)


                      That's right. States are inventions and creations of people, not Nature. Like the same islands, continents, oceans ... Their people are bunged, the same people as you and me ... With your passions, whims, weaknesses, impudence ... But what are you really doing ?! I’m indignant that they added to my hometown of Zaporozhye with a last year’s resolution. I always believed that Zaporozhye was founded in 1770. But last year they decided to consider the year of its foundation 952! What is it ?! And do you seriously think that I can approve of this and I might like it?
                    3. Belgorod 27 October 2015 23: 52 New
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                      Hi!
                      I, too (as I read in the history of the Belgorod region) is a descendant of the Zaporizhzhya Cossacks. My ancestors, on the maternal side, after dispersal of the Zaporizhzhya Sich settled near Shebekino.
                      And in 2013, two clashed on InoSmi. Both from the Kuban, proctically from one village, but one descendant of a Cossack and the other a peasant. How they watered each other. And then ... They united and began to cover Ukrainians together.
                  2. sharp-lad 27 October 2015 22: 36 New
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                    I carefully read it, I liked it a lot, I understood a lot, I took part of it, but .... But the main thing is that Ukrainians in Novorossia are killing the very citizens of Ukraine! All the fault of which is the desire to preserve their native language and native lifestyle! After that, your grievances are somehow not very clear. For reflection - many oppose ukrov, hohlobanderlogov, ukrofashistov, and not against the Ukrainians. True, after the massive pouring of mud on the “damned m-o-s-k-a-lei” respect for the “brotherly” Ukrainians somehow disappeared. And your silent support of your own type of power, this respect will definitely not return!
                  3. scorpiosys 28 October 2015 00: 13 New
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                    And how many “centuries” has the history of the former USSR, and now the “state of Ukraine”? To be so loud - called?
                  4. avia1991 28 October 2015 02: 58 New
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                    "Khokhlov and nature errors of the outskirts-Hohland 404 ",

                    The people, but I’m wondering: the modders mercilessly bugged us for these words - and entogo tovarisch for some reason not! AND WHY?..
              4. Turkir 28 October 2015 00: 18 New
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                These philologists are not of Russian origin.
                The rules of the Russian language dictate to say "in Ukraine" and "in Little Russia."
                Thank the Poles who called you Ukraine for this. We have nothing to do with this name.
                To express our contempt for the Ukrainians - you write - we call it the country of 404! We did nothing to make her like that. You yourself made her like that. And if you don’t want to do business with us, then take gas from Europe, preferably from the USA, it is closer to you. It would be nice to close all the roads leading to the Russian Federation with fences, to blow up all the bridges leading to the Russian Federation. Fences can be bought very cheaply from Jacek.
                Your tranche worth $ 400 million has just passed, from your leaders for the supply of our gas for the winter, so that it is warm at your place. Turn it off - this is Muscovite gas.
                But the Russian Federation attacked you and is at war with you. This was stated by all YOUR leaders from the foul-smelling Bandera to Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko. They said this in Paris, Berlin, London and even at the UN.
                Are you pretending not to know this? If so, this is hypocrisy.
              5. Victor-M 28 October 2015 01: 05 New
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                Why, then, Australia and Canada moved their capitals from cities of millions to small towns?

                Because the real capital of Australia is in London, and the capital of Canada is in Washington. laughing
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                  Because the real capital of Australia is in London, and the capital of Canada is in Washington.


                  You know, this is a very, very original answer ... Does it suit you? I'm not happy. For me it is very primitive. Could better answer if you tried.
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                    You know, this is a very, very original answer ... Does it suit you?
                    It’s not for me to keep the answer, but it could mean the fact that Australia is nominally part of the Kingdom of Great Britain. Take a look at the flag and remember the titles of English kings and queens)
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                  the capital of Canada in Washington

                  Oh no no no! Victor, what are you doing ?! Really,
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                  this is a very, very not original answer.
                  laughing
                  Because the real capital of Canada is ... in the same place, in London! wink
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                here’s even such a fine touch --- "in Ukraine" and "in Ukraine". Russian philologists from the leading philological institute of Russia have already recognized

                WHICH institute? Specifically! And who exactly issued the resume - the last name!
                Historically correct in Ukraine, for Ukraine itself is an education from the "Outskirts" "At the edge" of the empire. I don’t think you know this. Now tell me which phrase is more true and natural for pronunciation: “On the outskirts” or “In the outskirts”? Forgive your evidence - excuse me, bullshit: it’s just that someone "at Misci Kyiv" wants you to perceive yourself as special, exceptional, and different from everyone else! So you come up with everything that is possible for this. WHAT FOR?
              7. TVM - 75 28 October 2015 05: 51 New
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                If "in" and "on" cling to the soul, then this only speaks of the inferiority of this soul.
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                It’s just that they taught me at school, in Africa, blacks, Ukrainians in Ukraine.
          6. avia1991 28 October 2015 02: 05 New
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            Unification is a very complex and long process,

            What are you saying ?! And in the 91st so divided at one moment! It’s somehow incomparable: it seems that the processes are equivalent in complexity - and on you!
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            At the same time, there should be a number of constructive reforms, starting from changes and consolidation in constitutions
            laughing laughing Oh! Then we can sleep peacefully: given how amendments to the Constitution of Ukraine are adopted, in accordance with the Minsk agreements, it’s clearly not going to unite - those who started it will rather die, and the descendants will forget why it was started! laughing
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            First, take an interest in the inhabitants of Ukraine --- do they want to be part of your country?
            We won’t even ask - You ask better if we want to unite with you?
            Those who wanted to be with Russia together are already with it, or on the way to it. And you (not personally, although you obviously belong to the majority of the rest) in Russia definitely have nothing to do! After what they did APU with Natsik in the Donbass ..
            It would be nice to force our government to ban hokhlam’s entry to work — otherwise there’s some kind of epidemic: they’re turning to us! Why are you coming here if everything is fine with you?
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            The contingent here is specific, to be sure.

            True: for the most part, here are the patriots of Russia - and without any quotes! BUT AND NOT HERE - ALSO! Is this amazing for you? Well then, with foam at the mouth, you uphold the remnants of the dignity of your homeland?
            You are so proud of it - your SMALL Motherland .. but you don’t know, I suppose that DneproGES was an all-Union construction site, and not the “great Ukrainians” erected it, but ordinary Russian guys and girls! There is nothing special for you to be proud of, there was a wonderful Union Republic of Ukraine as part of a powerful Union, and now there is one ambition, and zero sense.
            PS I don’t put a minus - it’s enough for you. Yes, and I see no reason - you will not increase understanding from this. They wrote calmly and without swearing - and that is the glory of God.
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              and then there’s a direct epidemic of some kind: they are turning a shaft to us! Why are you coming here if everything is fine with you?


              And I was only 3 times in Russia. For all my life. For the first time in the USSR in 1990, at the continuing education in Moscow. He just came to the factory after the institute and the shop manager sent me to Moscow instead. He did not want to go there. For the second time in 1991, I went to Orenburg to a rubber factory, bought 100 kg of crude rubber there for my company. And for the third and last time, in 1992, I went to Novosibirsk to Sibelektroterm, to draw up documentation for the purchase of a bell-type electric furnace. All. This is where my visits to Russia are completely over. Neither before nor after that I WAS NOT in Russia. So migrant workers and zarobitanchestvo in Russia, the payment of money for work from the Russians and the Russian state from me all this is far, how far I am from the planet Mars. And in the Crimea, and in general there has never been a single time in my 50 years of life, although I live relatively close to it, 350 km in total. 450 km to Kiev, and 900 km to Moscow. Never drawn to the Crimea. In the Carpathians I was and really liked it there --- nature is beautiful. He was in the Czech Republic, he was in Bulgaria, he was in Austria. But in the Crimea was not.
            2. brisk 28 October 2015 02: 41 New
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              and not the “great Ukrainians” erected it at all, but ordinary Russian guys and girls!


              You want to say that Ukrainian boys and girls are loafers? Hydroelectric power plants are being built on their land and Udmurts, Yakuts, Buryats are being imported there, well, there are inhabitants of the Non-Chernozem Region ... But not Ukrainians, because they are idlers. Even though they live nearby ... To whom are you saying this? And how then can you be treated well? Pay attention --- to "you" and not to "you". So, I mean you personally. I do not generalize to all Russians. Although there are more than enough “wise men” like you in Russia.
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                Ukrainian boys and girls loafers?

                No, they are not idlers - when it comes to their own "garden", they work like "electric brooms"! As for the Dnieper hydroelectric station - of course, partly there were lads from the Ukrainian villages that wonders. But only the construction was the ALL-Union and Komsomol - and therefore builders were brought from all over the Union, and this hydroelectric power station, in fact, is an all-Union, not a national Ukrainian property! I do not diminish the merits of Ukrainians - but you should not ascribe to yourself other people's merits! Maybe then there will be more understanding? And then you declare:
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                On their land
                - and everything is immediately clear .. THERE WASN'T THERE "THEIR" EARTH! It was a common, nationwide! Only for you it is not perceived otherwise than as "my price."
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                  But only the construction was the ALL-Union and Komsomol - and therefore builders were brought from all over the Union, and this hydroelectric power station, in fact, is an all-Union, not a national Ukrainian property!

                  Then you admit that the Russian BAM (in the Russian Federation !!) was built by Ukrainians from Ukraine as well? And there were quite a few of them there?
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                  THERE WERE NOT THERE "THEIR" EARTH!

                  Lord Well, with whom else can you talk like this, except for not with Ukrainians from Ukraine! Come to your subject of the Federation, in the same Chechnya or Ingushetia, and start telling them there that this is not their land. How long will you stay there? I foresee your answer --- there are proud eagles of the Caucasus Mountains, they can, they are not offended. And you are dirty and clumsy @ yany Ukrainians, you need to whine aside, sniff a rag, you have no dignity, just wipe your feet about you. What do you look up to the proud Caucasus ?!
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                    How long will you stay there? I foresee your answer --- there are proud eagles of the Caucasus Mountains, they can, they are not offended. And you are dirty and clumsy @ yany Ukrainians, you need to whine aside, sniff at a rag, you have no dignity, just wipe your feet about you.

                    So the true essence of the "dill agent" is already visible! laughing You know - I'm happy that I'm Russian! Not by nationality, no - just by the Spirit! This is the very feeling that A.V.Suvorov once briefly and succinctly expressed: "I am Russian! .. What a delight!"
                    Unlike you, I have something to be proud of! The strength and power of our country arouses the respect of good neighbors, the evil hissing of enemies, and the plaintive screeching of the jackals who have joined them! And this Pride for Russia is really intoxicating - this is an indescribable feeling! ..who many - alas! - not given to experience, because - there is no reason ..
                    I sympathize with you, and people like you: a sense of dissatisfaction, unfulfilled ambitions, plus the lack of firm support in the form of a stable and strong country - all this does not contribute to an optimistic view of the future, and makes you look with envy and anger at a more successful "neighbor". only to that matter your Anger and Envy - like an elephant on the drum of a Pug.
                    With regards to your attack - You, apparently, can read, but you don’t really understand the meaning: in my answer the keyword was THEN. THEN the land was in the ownership of the state of the USSR, and there was no question of any "mine-yours"! And today, having arrived “in the subject” of Chechnya, I can say: this is not your land when it comes to federal property. And that’s how it is perceived! But if we are talking about the concept of "Earth-Homeland" - naturally, this is THEIR land.
                    You, in your commentary, clearly did not indicate the connection of “their land” with THEIR small homeland. And given that the Ukrainians always very clearly see this in the possessive sense of “mine is yours”, I answered you in the same spirit.
                    As for the "proud eagles" .. I had to deal with them, it was so that they were "on both sides." And for those who were on mine, I could count on myself! And for those who are on the contrary - I did not give a descent, and now I do not give it. If you are accustomed to cave in under these - do not think that others behave the same way.
                    By the way, they are DIFFERENT, Caucasians. Just like us. In every nation there are bandits, and the police who fight with them, there are thieves - and honest hard workers, there are thinkers - and du.raki ..
          7. TVM - 75 28 October 2015 05: 38 New
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            At the beginning in Ukraine, put things in order, learn to work and manage, learn to respect other people, their opinions and desires. And such a Ukraine, which now exists, is a fascist hiding place needed only by mattresses, and then as a dunghill at the door of Russia. And no more. And where will the capital of Russia not you decide!
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        Patience and health to all, take care

        Thanks Sergey for the review. Take care of yourself. Good luck.
  2. LEVIAFAN 27 October 2015 15: 44 New
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    I think this is dedicated to the early repayment of debt. the atheists play pranks, they want to fill their price.
  3. maxim1987 27 October 2015 15: 45 New
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    Well, well, in response, the DNI should take the armament another five kilometers (a bitter grin) sad
    1. Peterhof 73 27 October 2015 17: 11 New
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      Well, well, in response, the DNI should take the armament another five kilometers (a bitter grin) sad


      Yes, idiocy is "a caliber of less than 100 mm." Not even an hour "Minsk-3" any muddied and less than 10 mm. will take away. Kindergarten. I present the report: “Today, the DPR militia, in fulfillment of the Minsk agreements, unilaterally took away all machine guns, rifles and pistols 50 km from the demarcation line on trucks. Tomorrow it is planned to transport slingshots and stun guns to the rear.” Ugh you.
  4. Teberii 27 October 2015 15: 46 New
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    The militants will not calm down all over again. Yes, and it is better to keep them with weapons away from Kiev.
  5. Corsair0304 27 October 2015 15: 49 New
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    It's a pity of course. But at least one thing pleases - from the guns and the RZSO they stopped hammering. Compared to what it was - small arms and mortars are unpleasant, but experienced.
    Peace to Donbass, recovery and prosperity.
    But the main thing is PEACE!
  6. samara-58 27 October 2015 15: 50 New
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    Bored sheep-get! am
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      Bored sheep-get! am

      ???? Who are you talking about? The direction of joy?
  7. VNP1958PVN 27 October 2015 15: 55 New
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    Could not even leave one “Pinocchio” for Donetsk Airport! Already, none of the Svidomo and did not think to shoot ...
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      Already, none of the Svidomo and did not think to shoot ...

      What Pinocchio ?! They have the same position in the settlements.
      Or do you propose to burn the enemy along with villages and civilians? Incidentally, Donbass residents also live there.
  8. Reptiloid 27 October 2015 16: 00 New
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    Thank you, Lord of the Sith, for writing such an important message. To all the Donetsk people --- Peace.
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    It seems to the cyborgs that the “batteries” were brought in, the ass was cleaned of rust, but the software remained old.
  10. Thirsty for wind 27 October 2015 16: 18 New
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    Gunpowder agreed with Merkelikha (when he went to the call) what to advance in the Minsk agreements. And the truth began the challenge. At least some supposedly movement to resolve the situation. It was.
    I agreed with law enforcement officers to wait until the election. Moreover, the hope was voter loyalty. Zilch came out.
    Now it’s obvious that this was all a common trick with deception. Rogue.
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      Gunpowder agreed with Merkelikha

      More precisely, not "Gunpowder", but "Parasha". bully
  11. Mama_Cholli 27 October 2015 16: 19 New
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    Phantom pain in dill ....
  12. MIKHAN 27 October 2015 16: 20 New
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    Banderlog from anger and cold, starvation burn! Donbass does not give up and peaceful life is getting better, but the main events are ahead
  13. roskot 27 October 2015 16: 26 New
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    Again they decided to shoot at a drunken bench.
  14. Balagan 27 October 2015 16: 28 New
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    Parasus is trying to provoke to break the agreement.
  15. Ajent cho 27 October 2015 16: 40 New
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    Ukrainian security forces opened fire
    I don’t understand anything at all. Why do they need it? After all, EVERYTHING is clear what will happen to Ukraine and what role was assigned to it! It would be better if we thought about the future ...
  16. cerbuk6155 27 October 2015 16: 44 New
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    One hundred pounds that they hid something at the airport and do not want to find it. soldier
  17. Mikhail Krapivin 27 October 2015 16: 51 New
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    One hundred pounds that they hid something at the airport and do not want to find it. soldier



    Fat....;)
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      No, it’s something more important, that they are very worried and can come around very strongly on them. soldier
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      One hundred pounds that they hid something at the airport and do not want to find it. soldier



      Fat....;)

      And what a laugh laugh .. But Donetsk airport is a bomb shelter with the appropriate reserves and large .... Even under the Soviet Union there were digging and doing stocks!
  18. nail 27 October 2015 17: 22 New
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    Urgently need to change lawyers to a normal professional government, as under Primakov. Change mu .... Zurabov to a smart ambassador. Our country has everything to live with dignity.
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    “Well, think, only 23-30 people will be killed. Mostly the Minsk agreements are respected” - greetings from the Kremlin!
  20. Steppe 27 October 2015 17: 54 New
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    request And why are they attached to this airport? There is already no living place - only solid funnels and potholes. Which plane will land there and which one will take off? Only endure collapse and nothing more. And it is unlikely to be repaired. The territory is being bombarded endlessly, who will climb under the bullets to take off - repair the landing strip?
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  22. Cap.nemo58rus 27 October 2015 18: 20 New
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    First, take an interest in the inhabitants of Ukraine --- do they want to be part of your country?

    Yes what for you are needed? To feed still parasites.
  23. Belgorod 27 October 2015 19: 05 New
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    First, take an interest in the inhabitants of Ukraine --- do they want to be part of your country?

    Yes, no one will unite with you. Teaming up with you means feeding the loafers. You plundered, plundered your country, ditched your industry, and now we will have to give money? And then you will sit in the kitchen and say - we feed Russia.
    You have the audacity to put some other conditions to us. Crest in his repertoire. (hoho was born - a Jew cried)
    Zarubi on your nose - no one in Russia WANTS to unite. You must earn the right to live in Russia.
    Russia will help you (after handing over your Bendera men). To give loans, discount gas, etc., but RUSSIA WILL NOT hang loafers on her neck
    And the union will not be !!!
    There will be an absorption of areas as they are deconstructed.
    For information - In Crimea, 23% of the population are Ukrainians, but in two years 0 (zero) students enrolled in Ukrainian classes.
  24. Kolyan 2 27 October 2015 22: 56 New
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    Donbass and then other parts of the former Ukraine will be part of our country because we are one people.


    Not ex, but real Ukraine. Ukraine was, is and will be. This is written to you by a resident and citizen of Ukraine from the southeastern Ukrainian city of Zaporozhye. Not from the central-western Vinnitsa or Khmelnitsky, and not from the dense Polessko-Selyansky Ukrainian Zhytomyr. And from the southeastern city of Ukraine, where the Dnieper on the Dnieper River. First, take an interest in the inhabitants of Ukraine --- do they want to be part of your country? If you come and ask them in person in the same Zaporozhye, you’ll get your sides too. So namut that you will groan for a long time. And not pravoseki, and not really, and Svidomo. And the most ordinary citizens of Ukraine. What are you so unceremonious? And it turns out from this on your part that is very impudent. I am not against unification into one country, so that no one would be offended at the same time. But by no means with the methods that you confess for the most part and bring to the world. And on Military Review and in particular. Why be surprised? The contingent here is specific, to be sure. Some of them are just green "patriots of the Russian world", they still understand very little. And the other part is hard-burned hard-wired soldiers. Unification is a very complex and long process, and delicate as well. At the same time, there should be a number of constructive reforms, ranging from amendments and enshrines in constitutions and numerous working laws, to the transfer of the capital from the odious multi-million city of Moscow to a very small town where there will be only 50 to 200 thousand inhabitants. Not more. Somewhere in Western Siberia. Closer to the geographical center of a large country. And without this, the new state will not take place.

    God be with you my sweet sugar, do not flatter yourself now I think there are very few Russians who want to reunite with you, as they say by force, you won’t be nice, but if you want to, don’t ask about the Donetsk republics, then there’s nothing and there’s no trial, the whole thing is voluntary hi
  25. V1451145 27 October 2015 23: 04 New
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    After such peace initiatives of the Kiev junta - Now only to Kiev!
    Hang on Donbas!
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    ... in Kamchatka, in the Urals, in Sakhalin, in the Kuban ...., in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Uzbekistan ...


    You write everything correctly. Just specify that the Urals, Kuban, Sakhalin are regions of the state of Russia. Therefore, there is the pretext "on." And Belarus and Uzbekistan are countries. Do you understand the difference? Therefore, there is the pretext "in." You say and write “in Uzbekistan”, not “in Uzbekistan”, “in Belarus”, and not “in Belarus”. Because they are countries, not regions or regions of another country ... And Ukraine is also a country, like Uzbekistan is a country, like Belarus is a country ... Why then do you say and write "in Ukraine" and not "in Ukraine "as in the case of the first two countries? You know, just a year ago, this question didn’t bother me at all, but I used it in my life without thinking, most likely more often than not. Maybe even just one on. Now I can’t even remember, because I didn’t pay such attention. Until I began to study it more closely and delve into the essence of the phenomenon in the past and this year. And not only this issue.



    It’s you, dear SVELTO, that you correctly said (from your point of view). But the Russian language, like the Russian people, is so multifaceted that even “coffee” is it (this is literary). And people who use coffee say it.
    And this tells you a person born in the Ukrainian SSR. But now I live in Russia - and thank God
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    MANYAKI THAT ...
  28. antikilller55 28 October 2015 09: 16 New
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    Bragi dill drank, or what? request