DAN: Ukrainian security forces opened fire on Donetsk airport

Early in the morning, the Ukrainian military began shelling the territory of Donetsk airport from a rifle weapons and mortar sheets RIA News message of the Donetsk agency News.

“About half an hour ago, the Ukrainian security forces opened fire on the territory of the Donetsk airport. The fire is conducted from mortars and small arms, ”the agency cites the words of the head of the Kuibyshev district of the city, Ivan Prikhodko.

According to his information, "one of the airport terminals is being bombarded by mines of caliber 120 millimeters."

Later came the message of a cease-fire.

“The shelling stopped at half past twelve,” a representative of the DPR Defense Ministry, Eduard Basurin, said at a briefing. “Thanks to the interaction of the JCCC and the OSCE mission, we were able to extinguish that hotbed of tension that lasted from the night.”

Recall from September 1 in the Donbass there is another truce, which, according to observers, is “mostly respected”. At present, the sides are gradually withdrawing from the contact line weapons with a caliber of less than 100 mm.

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[Lord of the Sith]

I will write my review of the situation in Donetsk.

Hello, it was hot here on the weekend, and specifically along the Sands-Vodyanoye-DAP-Spartak line. They say that under Gorlovka the Ukrainians also did not let the defenders of New Russia get bored.
As they say, they did not have time to dry up the signatures in Minsk, as we all spoke up here, from small arms to mortars and tanks, but so far without artifacts ... But if in the summer it all started from 21-22 hours to 4 am, now everything starts from 18 p.m. to 3 a.m. Apparently due to the fact that it has become darker earlier, and the OSCE does not want to go to the place of shelling and record violations in the dark.
It all starts as usual, first a rifle starts, machine guns, machine guns, sometimes a sniper works, if the militia begins to respond, then the AGSs and mortars try to cover the positions of the Armed Forces (Armed Forces of New Russia). But in the summer before the attack and immediately after the attack, I worked on the art of ukrov, and for some reason I worked far further behind the back of the BCH. Then now a maximum battery of 120 mm mortars, about 4 units. And yesterday, even a Ukrainian tank crawled out, fired two shots and back. But such actions here are not very effective, only ammunition (ammunition) is being harnessed ... Although maybe the goal is to provoke a response from the militia? The answer is, of course, if the dill gets somewhere or the militia is injured.
At the weekend there was a very hot fight in the Pesky Vodyanoye area. Northwest of Donetsk heard well. The DRG of dill first tried to move closer to the positions of the BCH without noise, if the task was to capture the “tongue”, the roofing felts were smoked, or maybe they took revenge for the same operation of the militia at the dill post, when 5 VSUshnikov were killed and 2 were taken prisoner .
DRG dill approached a throw distance of a grenade. The militia found them, a short skirmish ensued and even hand-to-hand fighting. The DRG was almost completely defeated, the remaining left, after which the Ukrainians began to cover the battlefield with mortars. A little later joined anti-aircraft gun 23-2 ...
In summary:
BCH: One 200th (killed) and one 300th (wounded).
APU: Five 200s, there is no information about the wounded, there was no desire to crawl across the field and check the wounded dill. And by the way, right, as I wrote above, almost immediately after the battle, 120 mm mines began to pour in ...
In general, everything returns to normal, as in the summer, stable evening shelling and shootings, and as we are accustomed to especially strong shootings on weekends, and Monday, like yesterday and Tuesday, are quiet.

According to the situation in Donetsk, we have a lot of inhabitants returned, the number may be 100-150 thousand less than before the war, but almost all returned, of course, except for the residents of the northern and western regions of the city, and even those who lost business and left for other regions Russia to work.
Food prices are still slowly but growing, about 3-4 times higher than in Ukraine. And we get pensions and salaries in rubles twice as high as in hryvnias. The head of the republic, A. Zakharchenko, in September, promised from November 1 to add salaries and pensions by 30%, as they say we will see.
VSN and the police are all dressed up in new uniforms, the unloading on the guys even smells of plastic. The police and other services are looking at new cars driving around and these are not wrung out mottled cars like the National Guard of Ukraine. And the target receipt, the same models of various European brands and all new. The Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations transferred a lot of equipment for the Ministry of Emergencies of the DPR. Just think about it, the Russian ministry supplies the Ministry of Emergencies with the equipment of the unrecognized republic at the expense of its ministerial budget, not from some fund, but from its budget. So in all our ministries there is help from Russia, as a Russian region. This is the way to the issue of plum.
While I am writing, outside the window I can hear 120 mm mines laying down ...
All patience and health, take care of yourself.

[Corsair0304]

Yes, the main thing you take care of yourself.

[Lord of the Sith]

Message from Eduard Basurin.

"Today, the Ukrainian security forces were shelling the territory of the Donetsk airport from about 8:00 with the use of small arms and mortars. Over the past 21 hours, Ukrainian security forces violated the" silence regime "on the line of contact with the DPR forces. The shelling was carried out in the settlements of Spartak and Zhabichevo in the western suburbs of Donetsk, the vicinity of the "Volvo Center" in the Kuibyshevsky district of the capital and the territory of the Donetsk airport. The fire was fired from mortars with caliber 82 and 120 mm, grenade launchers and small arms. The Ministry of Defense of the DPR for a week recorded 97 violations of the ceasefire by the Ukrainian security forces. During the local elections in Ukraine, Ukrainian security forces deployed 15 Uragan multiple launch rocket systems to the southern part of the front, and another 150 militants from the Ukrainian nationalist Aydar battalion arrived in the occupied city of Maryinka.

[Sid.74]

Here zhezh svidomye reptiles, all can not calm down. They are all looking for adventure on his fifth point. How much can you scoff at the Donetsk side ...

[Persistent]

There is a lull in the sky: Civil pilots were forbidden to fly to Kiev, and the military - the order has not yet been received ...

[padded jacket]

Quote: Sith Lord

Food prices are still slowly but growing, about 3-4 times higher than in Ukraine. And we get pensions and salaries in rubles twice as high as in hryvnias. The head of the republic, A. Zakharchenko, in September, promised from November 1 to add salaries and pensions by 30%, as they say we will see.

I am very glad that your peaceful life is gradually getting better, they began to pay pensions and benefits, but the fact that it is "difficult" and in Russia is not very "sweet" largely due to the sanctions that the West, led by the United States, imposed on our country for the fact that we actually saved the Russian people in Crimea and Donbass. But gradually everything will work out not for the first time and I hope Donbass and then other parts of the former Ukraine will become part of our country because we are one people.

Quote: Sith Lord

VSN and the police are all dressed up in new uniforms, unloading on the guys even smell of plastic

Indeed, you look at the photo from there and it is clear that both the supply of equipment and weapons is clearly at a different level compared to the beginning of the Slavyansk liberation movement. It is already extremely rare that a variegated form flickers and more and more equipment including heavy one.
It seems to me that our "operation" in Syria, among other things, took place precisely because the people of Donbass, with the help of Russia, were able to create a truly powerful and motivated army in the region of which the Kiev regime is no longer afraid.

[brisk]

Quote: quilted jacket

Donbass and then other parts of the former Ukraine will be part of our country because we are one people.

Not former, but real Ukraine. Ukraine was, is and will be. A resident and citizen of the country Ukraine from the southeastern Ukrainian city of Zaporozhye writes this to you. Not from central-western Vinnitsa or Khmelnytsky, and not from the dense Polesie-Selyansk Ukrainian Zhitomir. And from the southeastern city of Ukraine, where Dneproges is on the Dnieper River. First, ask the residents of Ukraine --- do they want to be a part of your country? If you come and ask them in person in the same Zaporozhye, you will also get your sides wet. So namnut that you will groan for a long time. And not at all pravoseki, and not particularly and svidomye. And the most ordinary citizens of Ukraine. Why are you so arrogant? And it turns out from this very impudently on your part. I am not against unification into one country, so that no one would be offended at the same time. But by no means by the methods that you for the most part profess and bring into the world. And on the Military Review, and in particular. Why be surprised? The contingent here is specific, to be sure. Some are just green "patriots of the Russian world", they still understand very little. And the other part is hardened hardened soldiers. Unification is a very complicated and long process, and delicate one as well. At the same time, there should be a number of constructive reforms, ranging from changes and fixations in constitutions and numerous working laws, and ending with the transfer of the capital from the odious multimillion-dollar city of Moscow to a very small town where there will be only 50-200 thousand inhabitants. Not more. Somewhere in Western Siberia. Closer to the geographic center of a large country. And without this the new state will not take place.

[HAM]

Well, let's say, and in VO, not everyone wants to see people in their country who have been pouring mud on MY COUNTRY for 23 years, but about the "soldaphones", you are clearly excited ...

[brisk]

Quote: HAM

HAM (2) Today, 18:28 ↑
Well, let's say, and in VO, not everyone wants to see people in their country who have been pouring mud on MY COUNTRY for 23 years, but about the "soldaphones", you are clearly excited ...

Oh well. But what, then, about the position of a comrade who advocates inclusion in the composition? And in fact, in all honesty, there are quite a few of them on the Military Review. Who do not just stand up for one country (which is of course good !!), but initially reject Ukraine as a state --- "quasi-state", "non-state", "ok.aina", "uk.raina", "ur .i.na "," 404 "," nezalezhna "," fake "," contrived nation "," ho.khly "," artificial language "," lackeys "," traitors "," collaborators "," Hitler's minions " , "genetic traitors", "fat eaters", "general forgive @ ducks on the highways of Russia", "former Ukraine", etc., etc. You take a closer look, read the comments of these and past times. How many of them will there be? Yes, 20 - 25 percent of such extremals will definitely be typed. For the slightest, so, purely intuitively, offhand ... But who throws mud at Russia in Ukraine? Ukrainians do not water. And the Ukrainians --- I mean both those who speak Ukrainian and those who speak Russian. Both those and other Ukrainians. Citizens of the country Ukraine. I am telling you this seriously. Don't believe me? In vain. Maybe I, I am a Russian-speaking resident of Ukraine, somewhere in the comments on Vonnoye Obozreniye poured mud on Russia? You are mistaken. They pour dirt and distort the facts and, as a result, the minds of some of the citizens, these are the media on the orders of those in power. Both in Ukraine and in Russia. And for unification, yes, we must strive. Especially in the modern world. Close peoples, ideally, should be a single whole. Who will deny that Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians are the most closely related peoples? And they should strive to live as closely together as possible in a modern and, unfortunately, still very predatory world. But, for example, you can't add the Turkmen to our trinity. They are much more distant from us. And Slovaks can be added, they are kindred to us. How many people are there on Earth? At least 7 billion. And how many people of our white race? No more than 1 billion. Every seventh. There are more Chinese people alone. How many Slavs are there in the world? 300 million. Four times less than the Chinese. And besides the Chinese, there is also a billionth India, and another billion of the adjacent brown Asian belt - Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Afghans, Saudis and others ... So draw your own conclusions --- whether monolithic cohesion is needed for people of the disappearing white race, and even more so 4% of the Slavic population of the Earth.

[dmi.pris1]

You know, over the past two years, Russia has practically stopped talking about unification with Ukraine ... That's it, bastards of karapuziki .. Vary in what is and what they wanted .. Unification is possible only with those people and territories who want it ..

Quote: svelto

Quote: HAM

HAM (2) Today, 18:28 ↑
Well, let's say, and in VO, not everyone wants to see people in their country who have been pouring mud on MY COUNTRY for 23 years, but about the "soldaphones", you are clearly excited ...

Oh well. But what, then, about the position of a comrade who advocates inclusion in the composition? And in fact, in all honesty, there are quite a few of them on the Military Review. Who do not just stand up for one country (which is of course good !!), but initially reject Ukraine as a state --- "quasi-state", "non-state", "ok.aina", "uk.raina", "ur .i.na "," 404 "," nezalezhna "," fake "," contrived nation "," ho.khly "," artificial language "," lackeys "," traitors "," collaborators "," Hitler's minions " , "genetic traitors", "fat eaters", "general forgive @ ducks on the highways of Russia", "former Ukraine", etc., etc. You take a closer look, read the comments of these and past times. How many of them will there be? Yes, 20 - 25 percent of such extremals will definitely be typed. For the slightest, so, purely intuitively, offhand ... But who throws mud at Russia in Ukraine? Ukrainians do not water. And the Ukrainians --- I mean both those who speak Ukrainian and those who speak Russian. Both those and other Ukrainians. Citizens of the country Ukraine. I am telling you this seriously. Don't believe me? In vain. Maybe I, I am a Russian-speaking resident of Ukraine, somewhere in the comments on Vonnoye Obozreniye poured mud on Russia? You are mistaken. They pour dirt and distort the facts and, as a result, the minds of some of the citizens, these are the media on the orders of those in power. Both in Ukraine and in Russia. And for unification, yes, we must strive. Especially in the modern world. Close peoples, ideally, should be a single whole. Who will deny that Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians are the most closely related peoples? And they should strive to live as closely together as possible in a modern and, unfortunately, still very predatory world. But, for example, you can't add the Turkmen to our trinity. They are much more distant from us. And Slovaks can be added, they are kindred to us. How many people are there on Earth? At least 7 billion. And how many people of our white race? No more than 1 billion. Every seventh. There are more Chinese people alone. How many Slavs are there in the world? 300 million. Four times less than the Chinese. And besides the Chinese, there is also a billionth India, and another billion of the adjacent brown Asian belt - Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Afghans, Saudis and others ... So draw your own conclusions --- whether monolithic cohesion is needed for people of the disappearing white race, and even more so 4% of the Slavic population of the Earth.

[brisk]

Quote: dmi.pris

That's it, basta karapuziki

Die like that with music! Sing along, brothers! And we will sing!

[HAM]

".... Seriously I'm telling you this. Don't believe me? In vain. Maybe I, I am a Russian-speaking resident of Ukraine, somewhere in the comments on Vonny Obozreniye poured mud on Russia ...?"


PERSONALY I EVERY DAY COMMUNICATES WITH RESIDENTS OF UKRAINE, BY RADIO (I A RADIO AMATEUR), AND ALREADY BELIEVE, I HAVE HEREKED FOR ANY ABNORMALITY, I EVEN EVEN UNDERSTAND THESE WORDS .... SORRY FROM YEARS, ALREADY, ALREADY, FROM SOME ONE FAMILY MEMBERSVINY IN Your troublesLITTLE ALL RELATIVES FROM RUSSIA.

[samarin1969]

"First, ask the people of Ukraine --- do they want to be a part of your country?"

Shanovnyy pan svelto ... In 1991, they didn’t particularly ask me if I wanted to Ukraine ... More precisely, hundreds of thousands of Crimeans asked me and didn’t give a damn about their answer ...

If the Kremlin will be profitable, then some of the territory of Ukraine will become Russian provinces.

[brisk]

Quote: samarin1969

If the Kremlin will be profitable, then some of the territory of Ukraine will become Russian provinces.

The more there are in Russia people like you, dear sir samarin1969, the farther the Ukrainian "provinces" will be from Russia ... And do not even hesitate. Time-tested and endured! And about 1991, all the questions to Gorbachev, Yeltsin and the Muscovites who supported them then, who on August 18-21, 1991 in Moscow threw themselves under the tanks, and who could not be taken by fear. They will give you the answers. You are a pest of Russia at the moment. The same pest as for Ukraine in 1992 was Khmara S.I. Deputy then. Remember this one? With such your stories about "wanted" and "province" you are a pest. Russia in the first place. Trust me, svelto1964. And those 1/3 of the territory of Donbass, sho "nepidkontrolni", so it is me and my fellow townspeople in the absolute majority, and all other prevailing Ukraine in the person of its citizens, so that they become provinces. Of course, the RF provinces. How simple it is with you! Therefore, you and the CMEA (and we too), and Vars. dog. and lost much, much more. Because historically there have always been a lot of people like you, ukhars, in Russia. Unfortunately.

[UREC]

Yes, no one in RUSSIA especially wants to unite with kaklami. We want to unite with the Russians who, after the collapse of the USSR, were on the outskirts.

[brisk]

Quote: UREC

UREC (1) Today, 19:57 PM ↑ New
Yes, no one in RUSSIA especially wants to unite with kaklami. We want to unite with the Russians who, after the collapse of the USSR, were on the outskirts.

Can you express yourself in common Russian? Who are "kakly"? Unclear. I speak Russian, but I am a resident of the country Ukraine. And we have millions of them. If you want to unite with the Russians, why then have not those 1/3 of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, who called themselves Novorossiya, still accepted into the Russian Federation? Why? It is 17 thousand square kilometers. And most importantly (!!!) there are 3 million Novorossians. Or in simple Russian language. Why did not the provinces accept those who want with every fiber of their souls into the Russian Federation? Vaughn Mr. samarin1969 noted that you should want to say everything will be provinces ... Well, if not all, then half or at least 1/3 of the "Outskirts" for sure ... And then people fought and fought, but they do not even think of taking them into provinces ( or federal districts). 3 million people !!! This is despite the fact that the Russian Federation is sorely lacking in population. And then the Slavs, not Central Asia! And they are not taken. So do you want to unite with the Russians? !!

[saber]

on the basis of what can we accept them? on the grounds that there are Russians?

[samarin1969]

Here I agree with you ... Unfortunately, the Kremlin and the peoples of Russia often have different interests in relation to all Russians ... The policy is being pursued by the "Kremlin" for which "Russian World" is just an unsuccessful unpromising "project" ...

[avia1991]

Quote: svelto

I speak Russian, but I am a resident of Ukraine.

Note to you, Clemens (note: a typical "Russian" name! ) I’m not laughing at the name, but about your positioning: speak Russian, and BE Russian is, as they say, two big differences!
That is why you do not understand us, just as you don’t understand that your attempts to argue with everyone, to answer everyone HERE are useless, moreover, such your “sociability” betrays the “sent Cossack” from the Ukrainian “info army”. "I am Russian, from Zaporozhye!" - you have the same sound as "An officer's daughter, from Sevastopol" sounded at one time. And the explicit underline in comments

Quote: svelto

1/3 of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, what were called New Russia?

speaks of your attitude towards our real brothers - those who were not afraid to rise up against the Kiev junta, did not "lie down" under the Nazis, unlike you - otherwise why do you live peacefully in a country ruled by state criminals ?!
Go, Mr. Clemens, better "to your own" - to the Censor. There you will get more plus signs. And tell the customers of your local opuses that Russia will not lead to any "unification" while gentlemen like Parashenka are in charge. Yes - even to your "sponsors", Americans, tell them to restore the economy, which they helped to destroy. Russia will no longer do this at its own expense!
Adieu
Py sy: by the way, you spoke here about the "contingent" in the VO, "inappropriate" .. maybe you are not a "zaslanets" (although you are very cleverly "winding"), but sorry: if you are not satisfied with the environment - WHAT YOU DOING HERE?

[brisk]

Quote: avia1991

Py sy: by the way, you spoke here about the "contingent" in the VO, "inappropriate" .. maybe you are not a "zaslanets" (although you are very cleverly "winding"), but sorry: if you are not satisfied with the environment - WHAT YOU DOING HERE?

Yes, I am not misdirected. By itself. Although it's hard for you to prove this ... Have you ever been sent to the police? Being at the same time a law-abiding and innocent normal citizen? Have you noticed how they talk to normal people there? As with criminals. They breathe that atmosphere, they live in it. They have no other idea. In the same way, you exist here in your own atmosphere, and everything else, even slightly different, is all from the "censor" and other sending people.

[avia1991]

Quote: svelto

Ever hit the police? At the same time being a law-abiding and innocent normal citizen?

I got it. And NOT to blame. So what? This is really the norm for cops. And also a way to "show off" to take: if there is any sin - you look, and it will split? But no - well, go, dear, for all four! I personally take this quite calmly.

Quote: svelto

That's the way you exist here in your atmosphere, and any other, even slightly different

causes me quite understandable suspicions! What's wrong with that? "The enemy does not sleep!" You haven't answered my question: if you are not satisfied with the people HERE, then why are you HERE? ..
Or already sick of communicating with their Natsik?

[brisk]

Quote: avia1991

You still have not answered my question: if you are not satisfied with the people HERE, then why are you HERE? ..

But because I'm not with the Censor. If there was someone like the Censor, then, of course, there would not be even close. I saw your Military Review for the first time in 2012, in the month of August. And then he was delighted with him. With enthusiasm he offered to read it to relatives and friends. But for a year now, alas, all that delight is not even close. And then, I know about myself some things that will definitely come true. Over time, not so much. But I will not disclose all this to you here. Because you won't like it here. You will not perceive it now. At the present time, anyway. No, no, don't worry, these are not the Banderlog's dreams. But also not the ones that would delight you now. You just are NOT READY for them yet. Just nothing. Do you know what is meant by this concept --- "the society is not ready yet"? I didn't know either, but then I realized. Although I will not formulate it in words. I trust my instinct. When I don't tell anyone in advance, then it will definitely come true. Even up to natural disasters --- earthquakes, etc. Now, if I live, then in three years I will remind about myself here again. And then let's talk more in detail and in a different tone.

[Belgorod]

these are not the dreams of Banderlog. But also not the ones that would delight you now. You just are NOT READY for them yet. Just nothing. Do you know what is meant by this concept --- "the society is not ready yet"? I didn't know either, but then I realized. Although I will not formulate it in words. I trust my instinct. When I don't tell anyone in advance, then it will definitely come true. Even up to natural disasters --- earthquakes, etc. Now, if I live, then in three years I will remind about myself here again. And then let's talk more in detail and in a different tone.

Love, don’t you understand what?
Yes, no one wants to unite with you, and never will
Why do we need you? With your murdered industry (will we have to rebuild it at our own expense?)
With your Bandera-Khokhlyat minsklet? (yaku on gilyaku)
Do you want me to say what will happen next
There will be a fragmentation of Ukraine into parts and absorption in parts of the Russian Federation
Crimea is already in Russia, Donbass and Lugansk almost, in Russia. Further Kharkov, Odessa, Nikolaev and Kherson (by the way, these regions have nothing to do with Ukraine)
And then Dnipropetrovsk and Zaporozhye, etc.

[avia1991]

Quote: svelto

I believe my instincts.

Flair - a thing not very reliable. Especially when it’s not about the personal life of an individual person, but about the fate of peoples - you allude to something like that, right?
A particularly thankless task is to trust instinct in relation to Russia: in History there is a lot of evidence that Russia does not lend itself to logic, does not follow the beaten path - and, in general, an unpredictable lady

Quote: svelto

for a year now, alas, all that enthusiasm has not come close.

And for this you need to thank your "lords" with Bandera! Wouldn't have staged a coup - people would not have brutalized HERE.

Quote: svelto

Do you know what is meant by this concept --- "the society is not ready yet"?

I know. As well as the fact that changes in the life of society are made by individuals - only 5% of the active population. The rest of the "society" is faced with the fact, and is forced to accept the new Reality in the form in which it is presented by this minority.

Quote: svelto

three years later, I’ll remind myself here again. And then we’ll talk more substantively and in a different tone.

Interesting: in WHAT "in the other"? Surely not in the "team"?
I do not advise you in advance if such delusional thoughts visit you.

[jPilot]

Dear, let me insert your 3 kopecks. Firstly, do not pay attention to "kakly" and other offensive words for the simple reason that this does not apply to adequate people who want to live in a peaceful, friendly country in Russia (judging by your notes, you are one of those). And so that your media would stop propaganda for the question of joining Russia not to be "hindered", because even according to your notes, you can see how your brains are ironed out about our Russian impudence.
And with the admission of Novorossia to Russia, we don’t need to poke our nose when the time comes and there will be an appropriate situation, we will accept everyone as relatives, rest assured.
And about the emergence of the country Ukraine, please read the history please, but not the one in which "the ancient Ukrainians dug up the black sea.
By the way, why did you get the idea that Russia is catastrophically lacking in population , YES, we have large open spaces, which is what they are rich in, but this does not mean that our population density should be like in Europ, and we didn’t want to. Here we love to go out into the open field, and yell in a brave voice "He-ge-bugger bl ... I !!!"
And we are fighting for the birth rate because of the sensitive governance of the country by the EBN and its liberal government, as a result of which it has catastrophically fallen, but we are already coping with this.
By the way, something from your very maydaun has not heard from our mass media outrages regarding Ukraine, and it’s very close to you, and it’s not interrupted.
And it so happened that now I work in a place where there are a lot of workers from Ukraine, and both from this side (DPR, LPR) and from your side. Since a career reserve officer, I am naturally interested in what and how I have a very relevant picture. The other day one acquaintance went after the orphans' grandchildren, the daughter was raped and killed, the husband (a former sniper of the militia) disappeared, and this was after supposedly a truce, literally the other day, so what about "KAKLOV", "Hitler's servants" ... ..... and the rest.
So before we poke a speck in the eye, first remove the log from your own. And time will put everything in its place. And Bandera fans say hello.

[jPilot]

Dear moderators, neighing for a long time over the correction. it is even impossible to describe the brave exclamation "Egegei" correctly, damn it. This is an overkill. Pure morals and language is certainly good, but still

[brisk]

Quote: jPilot

By the way, where did you get the idea that Russia is CATASTROPHICALLY short of population, YES we have large open spaces, which are rich, but this does not mean that our population density should be as in Europ and we didn’t want to.

For the Russian Federation, it is now OPTIMAL to have 350 million people. And in the future, it would be possible to slowly bring the maximum to 400 million. And more really is no longer necessary. And that would just be 23 people per 1 square kilometer. With 350 million people. For comparison: the population density in France is 115 people per 1 square kilometer, the population density in the USA is 34 people per 1 square kilometer. The population density of vaunted China is 140 people per 1 square kilometer. So if in the Russian Federation there would now be 350 million people, and the density would be 23 people per 1 square kilometer, then what --- for the state it would be bad ?! Would people be crowded ?! How much less would it be than in today's China? 140/23 = 6. As much as 6 times there would be a lower density! What would be crowded with people ?! And now, 150 million people are rounded up in the Russian Federation (according to official statistics from Rosstat, 147 million). And the population density is rounded up to 9 people per 1 square kilometer (eight and a half, to be more precise). This is small, it is very small, for such a large state as the Russian Federation!

[avia1991]

Quote: svelto

23 people per 1 square kilometer,

"Love" you, however, us - Russians! What is this - you propose to pave the entire north with people, all lands of little use for life? ..
And if we, as he said jPilot, love the space ?!
We are quite happy with what we have. And to change the situation, or not to change - we ourselves will decide somehow. And then a lot of "external advisors" have appeared recently!

[avia1991]

Quote: jPilot

So we love to go out into the open field, and yell in a brave voice "E-ge-peder

Neighing too!

[saber]

in order to take an interest in the inhabitants of present-day Ukraine, you first need to isolate them for six months from the TV. and then ask, how?

[lukke]

And by what "methods" does Russia conquer new countries or lands - name at least one? Crimea? I myself am from there and I know that Crimeans, for the most part, happily returned to Russia (I do not take into account the dull-headed part of the youth who studied in Kiev and absorbed independence or who came with their parents from other regions of Ukraine for positions, but they were really minuscule and no one kept them by force). South Ossetia? - are still independent. What else did we take there? Donbass? not like a part of Russia. And at the expense of the capital, I 100% agree with you, let it be transferred to Western Siberia or the Urals!) But believe me, the transfer of the capital will not affect the attractiveness of Russia as a country for living in general! There are no special privileges for individuals in the Russian Federation and will not be - everything is on general rights and the collective farm is voluntary. To my chagrin, on the contrary, Russia does not add those who want to - there is so much Transnistria over there.

[brisk]

Quote: lukke

But believe me, the transfer of the capital will in no way affect the attractiveness of Russia as a country for living in general!

Why, then, did Australia and Canada move their capitals from millionaire cities to small towns? Well, those Anglo-Saxons, according to the current fashion, are not an authority for the Russians. Then Brazil. A new city was specially built to move the capital there from the largest city in the country, Rio de Janeiro. They realized that the capital was pumping excessive resources for its own needs from all over the country. And for the needs of all residents of the capital. It is not for nothing that the standard of living in Moscow is strikingly higher compared to the average Russian. The same Kiev, and many, many other capitals. If not 100%. There is a difference whether the capital, in which there are 12 million of the population, will be pumped out from the rest of the 150 million of Russia, or the capital in which there are 100 thousand of the population? I do not have a bad attitude towards Muscovites; there are many normal and good people among them. But still, over many centuries, Moscow has absorbed both the bright sides and many very dark ones. I described my vision of the situation in sufficient detail. The main emphasis was placed on sustained hostility, often unconscious. And to disregard other peoples and countries. And what, even such a small detail --- "in Ukraine" and "in Ukraine". Russian philologists from the leading philological institute of Russia have already recognized that in this current situation, according to the norms (!) Of the Russian language, it is correct to use the phrase "in Ukraine". No, it's all the same at all levels in Russia - from the presidential-government and ministerial to website commentators, in all media - newspapers, television ... - they persistently use "in Ukraine". They start at the top, end at the very bottom. They don't know what is correct according to the norms of the Russian language? They know. But they do it out of spite. To express their contemptuous attitude towards both Ukraine and its inhabitants. How not to remember about "under-state" and "404"! That is, contempt for the Ukrainians. Ukrainians live in Ukraine. Regardless of what their native language is - Ukrainian or Russian.

[saber]

the Australian and Canadian capital are less years old than the Bolshoi, for example. although the idea of ​​transferring at least part of the functions to the regions is sound. Regarding the stroke - Nizhny Novgorod has a satellite town - Bor (it is right behind the Volga, on the other side). So, its inhabitants do not live in Bor, but ON Bor. and no one considers this a contemptuous attitude, should you learn? As I said -NA Ukraine is 35 years old, I will continue to do so, despite the papers signed by someone once. My children’s school will be taught differently, in health, but I’m already used to it in Bor, in Ukraine ....

[brisk]

Quote: Saber

So, its inhabitants do not live in Bor, but ON Bor. and no one considers this a contemptuous attitude, should you learn? As I said -NA Ukraine is 35 years old, I will continue to do so, despite the papers signed by someone once. My children’s school will be taught differently, in health, but I’m already used to it in Bor, in Ukraine ....

Who can forbid you to speak as you see fit? You joker. Did I have a conversation with you in this format --- "forbid", "allow"? What are you in fact ... Bor is just a satellite city, not a separate country on the world map. They even speak of the Urals "in the Urals" and not "in the Urals". But for some reason it is customary about Siberia "in Siberia" and not "in Siberia."

The names of states in Russian are combined with the preposition "in" (except for the short names of some island states, which are primarily associated with islands, not countries: "in Cuba", "in Cyprus", "in Haiti" - but "in Ireland "," in Iceland ", because they are perceived primarily as countries, and not as islands);

the preposition "on" is characteristic not for countries, but for geographic territories with indistinctly defined boundaries. The preposition "in" is usually used with the names of countries (other than island ones). Therefore, for example, it is said "in Russia" (where "Rus" is a rather vague concept, either historical, or geographical, or "spiritual", it is not known where it begins and ends), but "in Russia" - in the Russian state.

From this point of view, speaking of Ukraine as a state with clearly defined borders and status, one should use the preposition "in" - at least in a fairly official context.

If you are interested, take about 15 minutes and read on this topic quite comprehensive answers from qualified specialists in the Russian language:
http://gn.org.ua/in_ua

[saber]

Before us is a table. On the table is a glass and a fork. What are they doing? A glass is standing, and a fork is lying. If we stick the plug in the countertop, the plug will stand. Those. are vertical objects, but are horizontal?
Add a plate and a pan to the table. They seem to be horizontal, but stand on the table. Now put the plate in the pan. There she lies, but stood on the table. Maybe there are items ready for use? No, the plug was ready when she lay.
Now a cat climbs onto the table. She can stand, sit and lie. If in terms of standing and lying, it somehow creeps into the “vertical-horizontal” logic, then sitting is a new property. She is sitting on the pope.
Now a bird has sat on the table. She sits on the table, but sits on her feet, not on the pope. Although it seems to be standing. But she cannot stand at all. But if we kill the poor bird and make a scarecrow, it will stand on the table.
It may seem that sitting is an attribute of the living, but the boot also sits on the leg, although it is not alive and has no priests.
So, go and understand what is standing, what is lying, and what is sitting. And we are still surprised that foreigners find our language difficult and compare with Chinese.

and yet, if you did not notice, then a link to

Quote: svelto

quite comprehensive answers of qualified specialists in the Russian language:

you gave to the Ukrainian website

Quote: svelto

http://gn.org.ua/in_ua

anyway, as if on a North Korean site they were discussing the topic of democracy in the USA. Again, you have a reason to think! I will read official work on this subject with pleasure

[avia1991]

Quote: Saber

and yet, if you did not notice, then a link to
Quote: svelto
quite comprehensive answers of qualified specialists in the Russian language: you gave to the Ukrainian website
Quote: svelto
http://gn.org.ua/in_ua
anyway, as if on a North Korean site they were discussing the topic of democracy in the USA. Again, you have a reason to think! I will read official work on this subject with pleasure

Bravo, Maxim!
I wanted to note the same, but managed to read your comment. Nothing to add!

[S-cream]

Quote: svelto

If you are interested, take about 15 minutes and read on this topic quite comprehensive answers from qualified specialists in the Russian language:
http://gn.org.ua/in_ua

It is great to provide a link to the Ukrainian "research" on Russian language.

When the cat has nothing to do, he licks the eggs, but it's okay, he is the cat. But when a person wants to be different from others, stand out, he comes up with new rules. For self-identification, yeah. But in fact - brains need to stand out. In the direction of their brains, development.

[scorpiosys]

... in Kamchatka, in the Urals, in Sakhalin, in the Kuban ...., in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Uzbekistan ...

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Quote: scorpiosys

scorpiosys (5) Today, 00:07 ↑ New
... in Kamchatka, in the Urals, in Sakhalin, in the Kuban ...., in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Uzbekistan ...

You write everything correctly. Just clarify that the Urals, Kuban, Sakhalin are regions of the state of Russia. Therefore, there is a preposition "on". And Belarus and Uzbekistan are COUNTRIES. Do you understand the difference? Therefore, there is a preposition "in". You say and write "in Uzbekistan" and not "in Uzbekistan", "in Belarus", and not "in Belarus." Because they are countries, not regions or regions of another country ... And Ukraine is also a country, like Uzbekistan is a country, like Belarus is a country ... Why then do you say and write "in Ukraine" and not "in Ukraine "as in the case of the first two countries? You know, just a year ago this question did not bother me at all, but in my life I used it without hesitation, most likely more often "on" than "in". Maybe even only one "on". Now I can't even remember, because I did not pay such attention. Until he began in the past and this year to study it more closely and delve into the essence of the phenomenon. And not only this question.

[jPilot]

Buddy! Maybe you just suffer from imagination, or you are trying to invent an offense where there is none. And you yourself understand what you are writing about, they always talked about Belarus (I mean the USSR) to Belarus, as well as "to Uzbekistan", although all this was one GREAT POWER. And note this question arose precisely after the collapse of the USSR, but it does not seem to you that it was from this that the puppeteers began to stick the crowbar of discord. And you still fall for this crap and portray resentment where it is not.
Well, by the way, my grandmother was from Ukraine, her last living sister lives in Dnepropetrovsk, and my father was an honored Ukraine hockey coach, originally from Ivano-Frankivsk, and I am a RUSSIAN officer.

[bocsman]

Mr. Ukrainian has a mess in his head from low-quality media and "smart" reasoning in the kitchen. "Orange revolution" has taught nothing and the result is Maidan! As a result, the betrayal of their brothers both on the territory of their country and abroad. Here in Latvia they are holding something like an exhibition "people of the Maidan" so the organizers complain that they didn’t accept us anywhere! Harness, break, works of "art"! He is vis-li at a loss! I'll tell you why. The people are full of both the EU and the SS! And you have "Svelto" all ahead so take heart! And you should not be offended for offensive comments. Only a close person can betray, the enemy does not betray! Hence the resentment with all the ensuing consequences!

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Quote: bocsman

Only a loved one can betray, the enemy does not betray! Hence the resentment with all the ensuing consequences!

Ah, that's how it is! Well, if I and my fellow citizens are enemies to you, then everything is clear with you. Fortunately, not everyone in Russia is like bocsman. But, nevertheless, in the Russian Federation there are not so many people who will speak publicly as they think. Especially if it runs counter to the now fashionable "patriotism". Otherwise, you will not be a patriot. Then who are you? Right. Liberast. And once a liberal, then the 5th column. And the enemy of the state and the people. And this should be, at least, immediately opposed. You don't have to give a bunch of the most terrible counterarguments for Ukraine. There are a lot of disadvantages in Ukraine now! Shaft! Serious shortcomings. But look at yourself also.

[lukke]

Compared to the style of such an advanced and democratic site as the enlightened Censor, comrade bocsman, he behaves and writes as a graduate of the Institute of Culture and Art)

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Quote: lukke

lukke (6) Today, 22:08 PM ↑ New
Compared to the style of such an advanced and democratic site as the enlightened Censor, comrade bocsman, he behaves and writes as a graduate of the Institute of Culture and Art)

And what other Ukrainian sites do you know, besides the Censor? Always here, for some reason, only the Censor is cited as an example. Yes, sometimes I look at this site. Well what can I tell you ... The site is marginal. The audience there is the same. But just imagine - hundreds and a half of dropouts and morons, many of whom just a year or two ago just graduated from school, are clever on political topics and the theme of patriotism ... This is already a dependency --- come and bark ... What can you expect from their discussions and what is the value of their comments? I figured that 95 percent to 98 percent of the censor’s comments are slag, smelly and harmful slag ... And in the remaining 2 to 5 percent, sound reasoning can also be found. Most of the guests of the Censor are nothing of themselves, since they don’t know anything else but to spoil this site and other places on the World Wide Web ... So the Censor is a network sedimentation tank in Ukraine. But it doesn’t come to my mind to judge the general culture of all Russian citizens by the culture of the comments of the participants of the Russian Resource Udava website ...

[Belgorod]

Yes, we draw attention to ourselves. Do not worry

Well, if you and my fellow citizens are enemies for you

For the enemy you need expensive. The enemy deserves respect, and you, apart from squeamishness, do not cause any feelings. Moreover, I live on the border with Ukraine and talked a lot with your brother.
It was a shock for me when in 2013, when I got to the forum, I read a lot of interesting "facts and opinions" about Russians and about Russia.
The most interesting thing is that for two and a half years I have not heard "Ukraine should". Russia is for Ukraine, and must be, I heard that. Why does Russia owe the whole world to Ukraine ...
If you want a normal relationship, stop making a sacrifice of yourself and fight around your neighbors, throw a stone out of your bosom, and stop envying us.
And my advice, get smarter soon.

[Lelek]

Quote: Belgorod

throw the stone out of your sinus and stop envious of us.

Well, that's unlikely. The blackest will not allow. What is the concept of the Western establishment in relation to the countries of Eastern Europe and the former Ukraine, including - campaigning with a KIND WORD for "Western values", and if a kind word does not work, then a KIND WORD with a PISTOL TO WHISKEY (or - pay the bills with interest). The trouble with these countries is that the population, ordinary Ivans and Alesya, and not Pedra and Arsenia, will be paying "the bills".

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Quote: Belgorod

For the enemy you need expensive. The enemy deserves respect, and you, apart from squeamishness, do not cause any feelings. Moreover, I live on the border with Ukraine and talked a lot with your brother.

I was very interested in your clarification that you live on the border with Ukraine and "you know our brother well." Is our brother residents of Ukraine? And how did you get to know them well, considering that you live near the border? Is it an advantage --- to live near the border with Ukraine in order to get to know Ukraine and Ukrainians? You have a negative view of the people of Ukraine. Well, to the Ukrainians. You also single out Russians in Ukraine who are good, not like "kakelam" (the classification is not quite clear, how do you distinguish them --- by the language of their communication?). So how do Ukrainians perform poorly on the border with Russia? If you remember, in the late 1960s, the Chinese performed such a trick on the Soviet-Chinese border. Standing on their territory, they lined up on the bank of the border river, pulled down their pants and showed their naked jo @ phs towards the Soviet bank. But the Soviet border guards quickly found a completely neutralizing response. They began to exhibit portraits of Mao Zi Tung. And the Chinese had to put their pants back on. For it is very bad to show the dear Chairman a bare back seat ... I hope that "my brothers Ukrainians" are not doing something similar on the border with Russia?

[Belgorod]

You yourself understood what you wrote?
What does China have to do with ?????
Yes, we have half of Belgorod has relatives in Ukraine! We studied in Kharkov! When the USSR went to Kharkov for clothes and sausage, they came to us for cheese and carp. In recent years, entire complexes have been built for Belgorod residents (we went to Kharkov to have fun, like Americans on Kuba to Fidel).
I worked in a representative office (Kharkov branch), talked a lot about work.
So I ask, maybe you are the "officer's daughter"?
You don't "cut the chip" at all, you don't understand the whole situation. We have where you can spit, either in a Ukrainian or with relatives in Ukraine.
My opinion about people from Ukraine is friendly, polite. Very pleasant in communication (compared to Muscovites).
But, here are the facts over the past two years
My wife and sister went to the Caucasus (due to dill debelism we have to travel through Rossosh) We arrived at the station at two in the night, forty minutes to the train. Cuptley in a stall for a cup of coffee. The saleswoman poured poketiki with a coffee into a cup and filled it with COLD water. When she was shown this, she started screaming. Putin is to blame!
What does Putin have to do with it?
A friend last summer met refugees at the border (on duty - employment center)
"At first it was a pity, now no"
At the sister-in-law, Ukrainians constantly come to work (they bring vodka, etc.) and they communicate "for life" Here is her opinion - "Fuck you ...."
Last year I talked with a Kharkiv resident (mind you, not maydon, even on the contrary), went on business. I look hesitates, and ask him, and he told me "Is it true that there are riots in Russia since salmon disappeared in taverns?" My jaw dropped
Teacher - "refugee" in the class - "You, I'm a complete asshole"
Acquaintances and relatives on Skype, VKontakte, etc. send very far ...
And this is only a small part of what I know.
And now the question is How will we relate to you
Therefore, I say, change your attitude towards Russia, some of you will have to live here, and some will cooperate with us.

[avia1991]

Quote: svelto

Especially if it runs counter to the now fashionable "patriotism".

This is not a "fashionable" quality, but characteristic of a Russian person! You - do not understand, so do not try.
Well, about "few people will publicly say": I will remind you of your words: "ask the Zaporozhians if they want to go to Russia - and you will get bogged down." So, we have the orientation of individual citizens ... and in the media, for some reason it does not bring them either to the hospital, or - even more so - to the grave. And they don't go to jail for that .. SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Who and where is afraid to openly express their position? We are in Russia - or are you IN Ukraine ?! (territory with vague boundaries - right? Now it is!)

[TVM - 75]

How to name a country that begs money from another, declaring it an enemy and going to fight with it? Top senility! And this figure is still crucifying about universal values. It is more appropriate to name this country simply - Chamber No. 6.

[lukke]

As the Russians said "In Ukraine" (and not in the state of Ukraine), so it will be, as they said in Alaska (and not in the US state of Alaska), so it will be. At the expense of the norms of correctness for the first time I hear from you. And in addition to the norms, there is still a question of perception, of the temporary quasi-state of Ukraine, or of that territory as part of Russian lands, which have been called so from time immemorial in recent centuries.

[brisk]

Quote: lukke

At the expense of the rules of correctness for the first time I hear from you. And in addition to the norms, there is still a question of perception, the temporary quasi-state of Ukraine, or that territory as part of the Russian lands that have been called so from the last centuries.

If you have used this word "quasi-state" even now, then all my efforts, all my attempts to convey to you at least something, in addition to the frames established on the Military Review in relation to "Ukrainians and the mistakes of the nature of the outskirts-Khokhlyandiya 404", remained unfulfilled hopes. Everything was in vain. Use the way you like it.

[lukke]

a quasi-state is the reality of the given time, characterizing the concept of an artificially created state formation on lands with a population that was initially for the most part alien to the culture that the establishment took as the basis for development and a standard for the majority of the population, moreover by a violent way, when from childhood the guys are starting to drum in some kind of nonsense. I am on the paternal side - the so-called. "dog's tail", i.e. from the Zaporozhye Cossacks and I'm not trying to somehow embellish or "rewrite" the history of those places and people for myself - did you accept Katka's citizenship through Potemkin? accepted! (mine, for example, at first did not - went to the Ottomans and were still in the Transdanubian Sich, then they fought with the Turks, were forgiven and received land in the Tauride province). Most of the peasants in today's Zaporozhye were imported from other provinces of the Russian Empire? It was brought in. So, what state are you talking about there? a descendant of a peasant woman from the Tambov province? I apologize for the exaggerated rudeness)

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Quote: lukke

So what state are you talking about there? a descendant of a peasant woman from the Tambov province? I apologize for exaggerated rudeness)

That's right. States are inventions and creations of people, not Nature. Like the same islands, continents, oceans, Nature created ... And the states have already bungled people, the same people as you and me ... With your passions, whims, weaknesses, impudence ... What are you really really ?! I’m indignant that they added to my hometown of Zaporozhye with a last year’s resolution. I always believed that Zaporozhye was founded in 1770. But last year they decided to consider the year of its foundation 952! What is it ?! And do you seriously think that I can approve of this and I might like it?

[VOLOD]

Duck what the fuck you look at this junta. what do you expect from them. what do you expect from this corrupt bunch of politicians. afraid of banderlog?

[brisk]

Quote: lukke

So what state are you talking about there? a descendant of a peasant woman from the Tambov province? I apologize for exaggerated rudeness)

That's right. States are inventions and creations of people, not Nature. Like the same islands, continents, oceans ... Their people are bunged, the same people as you and me ... With your passions, whims, weaknesses, impudence ... But what are you really doing ?! I’m indignant that they added to my hometown of Zaporozhye with a last year’s resolution. I always believed that Zaporozhye was founded in 1770. But last year they decided to consider the year of its foundation 952! What is it ?! And do you seriously think that I can approve of this and I might like it?

[Belgorod]

Hi!
I, too (as I read in the history of the Belgorod region) is a descendant of the Zaporizhzhya Cossacks. My ancestors, on the maternal side, after dispersal of the Zaporizhzhya Sich settled near Shebekino.
And in 2013, two clashed on InoSmi. Both from the Kuban, proctically from one village, but one descendant of a Cossack and the other a peasant. How they watered each other. And then ... They united and began to cover Ukrainians together.

[sharp-lad]

I read it carefully, I liked it a lot, I understood a lot, I took it into account, but .... The main thing is that the Ukrainians in Novorossiya are killing those very citizens of Ukraine! All whose fault is the desire to preserve their native language and native way of life! After that, your grievances are somehow not very clear. For thought - many are against the ukrov, hohlobanderlog, ukrofashists, and not against the Ukrainians. True, after the massive watering of mud on the "damned m-o-s-k-a-ley" respect for the "brotherly" Ukrainians somehow disappeared. And your tacit support for your own type of power will definitely not return this respect!

[scorpiosys]

And how many "centuries" has the history of the former Ukrainian SSR, and now the "state of Ukraine"? To be called so loudly?

[avia1991]

Quote: svelto

"Khokhlov and nature errors of the outskirts-Hohland 404 ",

The people, but I’m wondering: the modders mercilessly bugged us for these words - and entogo tovarisch for some reason not! AND WHY?..

[Turkir]

These philologists are not of Russian origin.
The rules of the Russian language dictate to speak "in Ukraine" and "in Little Russia".
Thank the Poles who called you Ukraine for this. We have nothing to do with this name.
To express our contempt for the Ukrainians - you write - we call it the country of 404! We did nothing to make her like that. You yourself made her like that. And if you don’t want to do business with us, then take gas from Europe, preferably from the USA, it is closer to you. It would be nice to close all the roads leading to the Russian Federation with fences, to blow up all the bridges leading to the Russian Federation. Fences can be bought very cheaply from Jacek.
Your tranche worth $ 400 million has just passed, from your leaders for the supply of our gas for the winter, so that it is warm at your place. Turn it off - this is Muscovite gas.
But the Russian Federation attacked you and is at war with you. This was stated by all YOUR leaders from the foul-smelling Bandera to Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko. They said this in Paris, Berlin, London and even at the UN.
Are you pretending not to know this? If so, this is hypocrisy.

[Victor-M]

Quote: svelto

Why, then, Australia and Canada moved their capitals from cities of millions to small towns?

Because the real capital of Australia is in London, and the capital of Canada is in Washington.

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Quote: Victor-M

Because the real capital of Australia is in London, and the capital of Canada is in Washington.

You know, this is a very, very original answer ... Does it suit you? I'm not happy. For me it is very primitive. Could better answer if you tried.

[lukke]

You know, this is a very, very original answer ... Does it suit you?

It’s not for me to keep the answer, but it could mean the fact that Australia is nominally part of the Kingdom of Great Britain. Take a look at the flag and remember the titles of English kings and queens)

[avia1991]

Quote: Victor-M

the capital of Canada in Washington

Oh no no no! Victor, what are you doing ?! Really,

Quote: svelto

this is a very, very not original answer.

Because the real capital of Canada is ... in the same place, in London!

[avia1991]

Quote: svelto

here is even such a small touch --- "in Ukraine" and "in Ukraine". Russian philologists from the leading philological institute of Russia have already recognized

WHICH institute? Specifically! And who exactly issued the resume - the last name!
Historically correct in Ukraine, for Ukraine itself is an education from the "Outskirts" "At the edge" of the empire. I don’t think you don’t know that. Now tell me which phrase is more true and natural for pronunciation: "On the outskirts" or "On the outskirts"? Your proofs - forgive me, nonsense: it's just that someone "at the mission Kiiv" wants you to perceive yourself as special, exceptional, and different from everyone else! So you come up with everything that is possible for this. WHAT FOR?

[TVM - 75]

If "in" and "on" cling to the soul, then this speaks only of the inferiority of this soul.

[nik4422]

It’s just that they taught me at school, in Africa, blacks, Ukrainians in Ukraine.

[avia1991]

Quote: svelto

Unification is a very complex and long process,

What are you saying ?! And in the 91st so divided at one moment! It’s somehow incomparable: it seems that the processes are equivalent in complexity - and on you!

Quote: svelto

At the same time, there should be a number of constructive reforms, starting from changes and consolidation in constitutions

Oh! Then we can sleep peacefully: given how amendments to the Constitution of Ukraine are adopted, in accordance with the Minsk agreements, it’s clearly not going to unite - those who started it will rather die, and the descendants will forget why it was started!

Quote: svelto

First, take an interest in the inhabitants of Ukraine --- do they want to be part of your country?

We won’t even ask - You ask better if we want to unite with you?
Those who wanted to be with Russia together are already with it, or on the way to it. And you (not personally, although you obviously belong to the majority of the rest) in Russia definitely have nothing to do! After what they did APU with Natsik in the Donbass ..
It would be nice to force our government to ban hokhlam’s entry to work — otherwise there’s some kind of epidemic: they’re turning to us! Why are you coming here if everything is fine with you?

Quote: svelto

The contingent here is specific, to be sure.

True: for the most part, here are the patriots of Russia - and without any quotes! BUT AND NOT HERE - ALSO! Is this amazing for you? Well then, with foam at the mouth, you uphold the remnants of the dignity of your homeland?
You are so proud of it - of your LITTLE Homeland ... but you don’t know, I suppose, that the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station was an all-Union construction site, and it was not at all "great Ukrainians" who erected it, but simple Russian boys and girls! You have nothing to be particularly proud of, there was a wonderful union Ukrainian republic as part of a powerful Union, and now there is one ambition, and there is zero sense.
PS I don’t put a minus - it’s enough for you. Yes, and I see no reason - you will not increase understanding from this. They wrote calmly and without swearing - and that is the glory of God.

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Quote: avia1991

and then there’s a direct epidemic of some kind: they are turning a shaft to us! Why are you coming here if everything is fine with you?

And I was in Russia only 3 times. For all my life. For the first time in the USSR in 1990, at the advanced training in Moscow. I just came after the institute to the plant and the head of the shop sent me to Moscow instead of himself. He did not want to go there. The second time, in 1991, I went to Orenburg to a rubber plant, where I bought 100 kg of crude rubber for my enterprise. And for the third and the last time, in 1992, I went to Novosibirsk at Sibelektroterm, to draw up documentation for the purchase of a bell-type electric furnace. All. That was the end of my visits to Russia. Neither before nor after that have I been to Russia. So migrant workers and migrant workers in Russia, payment of money for work from the Russians and the Russian state are all far from me, as far as I am from the planet Mars. And in the Crimea, and in general, I have not been even once in my 50 years of life, although I live relatively close to it, 350 km in total. To Kiev 450 km, and to Moscow 900 km. I have never been drawn to Crimea. I was in the Carpathians and really liked it there --- the nature is beautiful. I was in the Czech Republic, I was in Bulgaria, I was in Austria. But I haven't been to Crimea.

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Quote: avia1991

and it was not at all "great Ukrainians" who erected it, but simple Russian boys and girls!

Do you mean by this that Ukrainian guys and girls are quitters? On their land, a hydroelectric power station is being built and Udmurts, Yakuts, Buryats, and the inhabitants of the Non-Black Earth Region are brought there ... But not Ukrainians, for they are quitters. Though they live nearby ... Who are you saying this to? And how can you treat you well after that? Pay attention --- to "you", not to "you". Therefore, I mean you personally. I do not generalize to all Russians. Although there are more than enough "wise men" like you in Russia now.

[avia1991]

Quote: svelto

Ukrainian boys and girls loafers?

No, they are not quitters - when it comes to their own "garden", they work like "electric brooms"! As for the Dnieper Hydroelectric Power Station, of course, there were also some guys from the Ukrainian villages of that Divchata. But only the construction site was ALL-UNION and KOMSOMOLSKAYA - and therefore builders were brought from all over the Union, and this hydroelectric power station, in fact, is an all-Union, and not a national Ukrainian, property! I am not belittling the merits of the Ukrainians - but you should not ascribe other people's merits to yourself! Maybe then there will be more understanding? Otherwise you declare:

Quote: svelto

On their land

- and everything is immediately clear .. THEN THERE WAS NOT "THEIR" EARTH! It was common, nationwide! Only with you it is not perceived otherwise than as "valuable".

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Quote: avia1991

But only the construction was the ALL-Union and Komsomol - and therefore builders were brought from all over the Union, and this hydroelectric power station, in fact, is an all-Union, not a national Ukrainian property!

Then you admit that the Russian BAM (in the Russian Federation !!) was built by Ukrainians from Ukraine as well? And there were quite a few of them there?

Quote: avia1991

THERE WAS NOT "THEIR" EARTH!

Lord Well, with whom else can you talk like this, except for not with Ukrainians from Ukraine! Come to your subject of the Federation, in the same Chechnya or Ingushetia, and start telling them there that this is not their land. How long will you stay there? I foresee your answer --- there are proud eagles of the Caucasus Mountains, they can, they are not offended. And you are dirty and clumsy @ yany Ukrainians, you need to whine aside, sniff a rag, you have no dignity, just wipe your feet about you. What do you look up to the proud Caucasus ?!

[avia1991]

Quote: svelto

How long will you stay there? I foresee your answer --- there are proud eagles of the Caucasus Mountains, they can, they are not offended. And you are dirty and clumsy @ yany Ukrainians, you need to whine aside, sniff at a rag, you have no dignity, just wipe your feet about you.

So the true essence of the "ukrop agent" is already visible! You know - I'm happy that I'm Russian! Not by nationality, no - just by the Spirit! This is the very feeling that A.V.Suvorov once briefly and succinctly expressed: "I am Russian! .. What a delight!"
Unlike you, I have something to be proud of! The strength and power of our country arouses the respect of good neighbors, the evil hissing of enemies, and the plaintive screeching of the jackals who have joined them! And this Pride for Russia is really intoxicating - this is an indescribable feeling! ..who many - alas! - not given to experience, because - there is no reason ..
I sympathize with you and those like you: a feeling of dissatisfaction, unfulfilled ambitions, plus the absence of a solid support in the form of a stable and strong country - all this does not contribute to an optimistic outlook on the future, and makes you look with envy and anger at a more successful "neighbor". only that don't give a damn about your Anger and Envy - like an elephant on a drum Pug.
With regards to your attack - You, apparently, know how to read, but do not really delve into the meaning: in my answer the key word was THEN. THEN the land was owned by the state of the USSR, and there could be no talk of any "mine, your"! And today, having arrived "in the subject" of Chechnya, I can say: this is not your land, if we are talking about federal property. And this is how it is perceived! But if we are talking about the concept of "Land-Motherland" - naturally, this is THEIR land.
You, in your commentary, clearly did not indicate the connection of "their land" with THEIR small homeland. And given that the Ukrainians always see this very clearly in the proprietary sense of "mine-yours", I answered you in the same spirit.
As for the "proud eagles" .. I had to deal with them, so it was that they were "on both sides". And on those who were on mine, I could count as myself! And to those who are on the contrary - I did not give a descent, and now I do not. If you are used to bending under such people, do not think that others behave the same way.
By the way, they are DIFFERENT, Caucasians. Just like us. In every nation there are bandits, and the police who fight with them, there are thieves - and honest hard workers, there are thinkers - and du.raki ..

[TVM - 75]

At the beginning in Ukraine, put things in order, learn to work and manage, learn to respect other people, their opinions and desires. And such a Ukraine, which now exists, is a fascist hiding place needed only by mattresses, and then as a dunghill at the door of Russia. And no more. And where will the capital of Russia not you decide!

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: Sith Lord

Patience and health to all, take care

Thanks Sergey for the review. Take care of yourself. Good luck.

[LEVIAFAN]

I think this is dedicated to the early repayment of debt. the atheists play pranks, they want to fill their price.

[maxim1987]

Well, well, in response, the DNI should take the armament another five kilometers (a bitter grin)

[Peterhof 73]

Quote: maximNNX

Well, well, in response, the DNI should take the armament another five kilometers (a bitter grin)

Yes, idiocy is "less than 100 mm caliber." Not even an hour "Minsk-3" any muddied and less than 10 mm. will take away. Kindergarten. I present a report: "Today, in compliance with the Minsk agreements, the DPR militiamen unilaterally removed all machine guns, rifles and pistols in trucks at a distance of 50 km from the demarcation line in compliance with the Minsk agreements. The next day it is planned to transport slingshots and stun guns to the rear." Ugh you.

[Teberii]

The militants will not calm down all over again. Yes, and it is better to keep them with weapons away from Kiev.

[Corsair0304]

It's a pity of course. But at least one thing pleases - from the guns and the RZSO they stopped hammering. Compared to what it was - small arms and mortars are unpleasant, but experienced.
Peace to Donbass, recovery and prosperity.
But the main thing is PEACE!

[samara-58]

Bored sheep-get!

[MSL]

Quote: Samara-58

Bored sheep-get!

???? Who are you talking about? The direction of joy?

[VNP1958PVN]

Couldn't leave at least one "Buratina" for Donetsk Airport! Already none of the Svidomo would have thought to shoot ...

[Vasek]

Quote: VNP1958PVN

Already, none of the Svidomo and did not think to shoot ...

What Pinocchio ?! They have the same position in the settlements.
Or do you propose to burn the enemy along with villages and civilians? Incidentally, Donbass residents also live there.

[Reptiloid]

Thank you, Lord of the Sith, for writing such an important message. To all the Donetsk people --- Peace.

[EFA]

It looks like the cyborgs had "batteries" delivered, their ass was cleaned of rust, but the software remained old.

[Thirsty for wind]

Gunpowder agreed with Merkelikha (when he went to the call) what to advance in the Minsk agreements. And the truth began the challenge. At least some supposedly movement to resolve the situation. It was.
I agreed with law enforcement officers to wait until the election. Moreover, the hope was voter loyalty. Zilch came out.
Now it’s obvious that this was all a common trick with deception. Rogue.

[Vasek]

Quote: Thirsty for the Wind

Gunpowder agreed with Merkelikha

More precisely, not "Gunpowder", but "Parasha".

[Mama_Cholli]

Phantom pain in dill ....

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Banderlog from anger and cold, starvation burn! Donbass does not give up and peaceful life is getting better, but the main events are ahead

[roskot]

Again they decided to shoot at a drunken bench.

[Balagan]

Parasus is trying to provoke to break the agreement.

[Ajent cho]

Ukrainian security forces opened fire

I don’t understand anything at all. Why do they need it? After all, EVERYTHING is clear what will happen to Ukraine and what role was assigned to it! It would be better if we thought about the future ...

[cerbuk6155]

One hundred pounds that they hid something at the airport and do not want to find it.

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Quote: cerbuk6155

One hundred pounds that they hid something at the airport and do not want to find it.

Fat....;)

[cerbuk6155]

No, it’s something more important, that they are very worried and can come around very strongly on them.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Mikhail Krapivin

Quote: cerbuk6155

One hundred pounds that they hid something at the airport and do not want to find it.

Fat....;)

And what a laugh laugh .. But Donetsk airport is a bomb shelter with the appropriate reserves and large .... Even under the Soviet Union there were digging and doing stocks!

[nail]

Urgently need to change lawyers to a normal professional government, as under Primakov. Change mu .... Zurabov to a smart ambassador. Our country has everything to live with dignity.

[PWG]

"Well, think about it, only 23-30 people will be killed. Basically, the Minsk agreements are being observed" - greetings from the Kremlin!

[Steppe]

And why are they attached to this airport? There is already no living place - only solid funnels and potholes. Which plane will land there and which one will take off? Only endure collapse and nothing more. And it is unlikely to be repaired. The territory is being bombarded endlessly, who will climb under the bullets to take off - repair the landing strip?

[samarin1969]

It seems that Ukrainians and their leaders do not have a different meaning in life than fighting for Donetsk ...

[Cap.nemo58rus]

First, take an interest in the inhabitants of Ukraine --- do they want to be part of your country?

Yes what for you are needed? To feed still parasites.

[Belgorod]

First, take an interest in the inhabitants of Ukraine --- do they want to be part of your country?

Yes, no one will unite with you. Teaming up with you means feeding the loafers. You plundered, plundered your country, ditched your industry, and now we will have to give money? And then you will sit in the kitchen and say - we feed Russia.
You have the audacity to put some other conditions to us. Crest in his repertoire. (hoho was born - a Jew cried)
Zarubi on your nose - no one in Russia WANTS to unite. You must earn the right to live in Russia.
Russia will help you (after handing over your Bendera men). To give loans, discount gas, etc., but RUSSIA WILL NOT hang loafers on her neck
And the union will not be !!!
There will be an absorption of areas as they are deconstructed.
For information - In Crimea, 23% of the population are Ukrainians, but in two years 0 (zero) students enrolled in Ukrainian classes.

[Kolyan 2]

Quote: svelto

Quote: quilted jacket

Donbass and then other parts of the former Ukraine will be part of our country because we are one people.

Not former, but real Ukraine. Ukraine was, is and will be. A resident and citizen of the country Ukraine from the southeastern Ukrainian city of Zaporozhye writes this to you. Not from central-western Vinnitsa or Khmelnytsky, and not from the dense Polesie-Selyansk Ukrainian Zhitomir. And from the southeastern city of Ukraine, where Dneproges is on the Dnieper River. First, ask the residents of Ukraine --- do they want to be a part of your country? If you come and ask them in person in the same Zaporozhye, you will also get your sides wet. So namnut that you will groan for a long time. And not at all pravoseki, and not particularly and svidomye. And the most ordinary citizens of Ukraine. Why are you so arrogant? And it turns out from this very impudently on your part. I am not against unification into one country, so that no one would be offended at the same time. But by no means by the methods that you for the most part profess and bring into the world. And on the Military Review, and in particular. Why be surprised? The contingent here is specific, to be sure. Some are just green "patriots of the Russian world", they still understand very little. And the other part is hardened hardened soldiers. Unification is a very complicated and long process, and delicate one as well. At the same time, there should be a number of constructive reforms, ranging from changes and fixations in constitutions and numerous working laws, and ending with the transfer of the capital from the odious multimillion-dollar city of Moscow to a very small town where there will be only 50-200 thousand inhabitants. Not more. Somewhere in Western Siberia. Closer to the geographic center of a large country. And without this the new state will not take place.

God be with you my sweet sugar, do not flatter yourself now I think there are very few Russians who want to reunite with you, as they say by force, you won’t be nice, but if you want to, don’t ask about the Donetsk republics, then there’s nothing and there’s no trial, the whole thing is voluntary

[V1451145]

After such peace initiatives of the Kiev junta - Now only to Kiev!
Hang on Donbas!

[178]

Quote: svelto

Quote: scorpiosys

scorpiosys (5) Today, 00:07 ↑ New
... in Kamchatka, in the Urals, in Sakhalin, in the Kuban ...., in Ukraine, in Belarus, in Uzbekistan ...

You write everything correctly. Just clarify that the Urals, Kuban, Sakhalin are regions of the state of Russia. Therefore, there is a preposition "on". And Belarus and Uzbekistan are COUNTRIES. Do you understand the difference? Therefore, there is a preposition "in". You say and write "in Uzbekistan" and not "in Uzbekistan", "in Belarus", and not "in Belarus." Because they are countries, not regions or regions of another country ... And Ukraine is also a country, like Uzbekistan is a country, like Belarus is a country ... Why then do you say and write "in Ukraine" and not "in Ukraine "as in the case of the first two countries? You know, just a year ago this question did not bother me at all, but in my life I used it without hesitation, most likely more often "on" than "in". Maybe even only one "on". Now I can't even remember, because I did not pay such attention. Until he began in the past and this year to study it more closely and delve into the essence of the phenomenon. And not only this question.

It is you, dear SVELTO, who correctly said (from your point of view). But the Russian language, like the Russian people, is so multifaceted that even "coffee" is a literary one. And when people use coffee, they say it.
And this tells you a person born in the Ukrainian SSR. But now I live in Russia - and thank God

[Back in USSR]

MANYAKI THAT ...

[antikilller55]

Bragi dill drank, or what?