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“Shooting was conducted in the waters of the Barents Sea. The exposed sea target was successfully hit, ”the release says.

The ministry noted that the aircraft carrier "continues to carry out planned tasks for the program of the course of combat training."

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[oleg-gr]

It's time to set goals in the Mediterranean.

[GSH-18]

Aircraft carrier “Admiral Kuznetsov” fired for training purposes in the Barents Sea

Since when did "Kuznetsov" suddenly become an AIR CARRIER ???
All my life I was TAKR (heavy aircraft carrier cruiser). Did I miss something? Not? We HAVE NO AIRPLANES. But the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has already signed an agreement with USC for the construction of the first flat-deck Russian Aircraft Carrier. Details are naturally secret for now. But this alone is already very pleasing!

[Now we are free]

"Kuzya" would look good in the Mediterranean, and by the way, the RF Ministry of Defense is talking about this more and more loudly. If Kuznetsov is sent to the shores of Syria, then the practice of using aircraft carriers to support the Russian Aerospace Forces in this country would be very useful, and this will be the first time in the history of the modern Russian Navy.

PS
And I could not help but share another news, especially it will be interesting for sports fans. Boxer Roy Jones received a Russian passport!

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[Snegovok]

Date of issue 17.09.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX ??

[g1v2]

Can you link to the official summary of the conclusion of the construction contract? So far, none of these messages have been confirmed. As a rule, such messages are thrown by the scientific center of them. Krylova, who developed the initial project of the aircraft carrier "Storm" and really want to promote the MO for a delicious multi-billion dollar contract. About secrecy is not even funny - you cannot hide the construction of a ship with a displacement of 100 thousand tons, especially since the shipyards that are able to build it in spite of it. Well and most importantly - in the plans for the state order until 2020, no new aircraft carriers are provided for. Perhaps something else was implied - in the next couple of years, Kuzyu is planned to begin to be rebuilt into a full-fledged aircraft carrier with the replacement of a geu, air defense and an increase in the number of aircraft due to the dismantling of PCRs and an increase in hangars. Here it was in the plans, and if not for the conflict in dill, modernization might have already begun. Well, all the info about any new aircraft carrier still turned out to be a throw-in and an attempt to promote the MO.

[Deniska]

has already signed an agreement with USC for the construction of the first flat-deck Russian Aircraft Carrier

From where infa?

[GSH-18]

Quote: Deniska

has already signed an agreement with USC for the construction of the first flat-deck Russian Aircraft Carrier

From where infa?

A month ago, on TV we were talking. And if you want a reference, here you go: http://bastion-karpenko.narod.ru/AW_XXI_01.html

[31rus]

Where does this information come from, dear? Please give a source.

[31rus]

Where does this information come from, dear? Please give a source.

[Fin]

Quote: GSH-18

All my life I was TAKR (heavy aircraft carrier cruiser).

To be precise, TAVKR. And TAKR is Peter the Great.

[bugagich]

Peter the Great is a TARK, although the mortgage is "Heavy Missile Cruiser". and Kuznetsov, like the others, called TAKR, later TAVKR, which is the same thing.
moreover, correctly not "aircraft carrier", but "aircraft carrier" ...

[Peterhof 73]

To you +. Only in my opinion not TAKR but TAVKR. And let me know the source of information about the construction of an aircraft carrier.

Quote: GSH-18

Aircraft carrier “Admiral Kuznetsov” fired for training purposes in the Barents Sea

Since when did "Kuznetsov" suddenly become an AIR CARRIER ???
All my life I was TAKR (heavy aircraft carrier cruiser). Did I miss something? Not? We HAVE NO AIRPLANES. But the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has already signed an agreement with USC for the construction of the first flat-deck Russian Aircraft Carrier. Details are naturally secret for now. But this alone is already very pleasing!

[KGB WATCH YOU]

But the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has already signed an agreement with OSK for the construction of the first flat-deck Russian Aircraft Carrier. Details are naturally secret while.

Can I tell you how you found this out? It's just that no one knows how.

[PSih2097]

Quote: GSH-18

But the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has already signed an agreement with OSK for the construction of the first flat-deck Russian Aircraft Carrier.

nifiga, the springboard is obligatory, so two catapults ... like on "Ulyanovsk" ...
as for me, the main thing is to make the Yak-44 ...

[GSH-18]

The aircraft carrier cruiser SF "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov" fired at a sea target from the air defense missile system "Dagger"

Who wrote this? What is the name of this journalist ??
Fired on sea targets from the "Dagger" anti-aircraft missile complex. AS??? SAM firing actually on air targets. And did they train with earth-to-earth missiles? We wear everything round, we roll everything square? Well, the journalists give!

[Vladimyrych]

Look at this plot. It describes the impact of air defense systems on surface targets

[GSH-18]

Quote: Vladimir

Look at this plot. It describes the impact of air defense systems on surface targets

Did you yourself carefully watch the plot you presented? It says: The consumption of missiles-3, one anti-aircraft, the one that was released as a warning and fell somewhere between Georgian ships, that is, they didn’t aim anywhere, and shot in order to maintain the main anti-ship ammunition.

[Vladimyrych]

Well, you are not careful. In the second volley, the Mirage opened fire on the Osa air defense missile system and hit the side.
This second boat video even CNN showed

[GSH-18]

In the Osa-AKM missile complex, the radio fuse was modified and the possibility of destruction was ensured at almost zero helicopter height at ranges from 2 to 6,5 km. This ensures the defeat of both helicopters hovering and flying at a speed of up to 80 m / s.

Source: http://www.modernarmy.ru/article/232 © "Modern Army" portal

These missiles are anti-aircraft missiles, that is, their power is not designed to destroy large targets such as a ship. You can, of course, beat the whole "clip". But this will be the misuse of expensive anti-aircraft missiles. How will you shoot back from the planes, if that? This is done in extreme cases, when there is already nothing to shoot with (the mass of the Osa warhead is 15 kg in total!). Here is the opposite situation - hitting the tank with Onyx. And what, it is also guaranteed to stagger! Yes, along with the tank, another half of the city block to dust.

[tlauicol]

just two hours ago you didn’t believe in such an opportunity at all. and now get out

[Talgat]

Many naval air defense systems are capable of firing at surface targets

I read exactly about Osa - and about marine variants with 300 - I also read - they can hit ships if necessary

[GSH-18]

Quote: Vladimir

Well, you are not careful

Watch carefully. Consumption of rockets PKR-2 anti-aircraft-1. Review and hear everything!

[Vladimyrych]

Cost
1) RCC - 2 pcs - drowned and the first Georgian "hero" did not return to the base.
2) SAM "Osa" - 2 pieces
They started one as a warning.
The second got on board smoked (and the drown at the base in Poti ) the second Georgian "hero".
The video above is attached.
Why the result is announced without one air defense system is to the editors of the channel. For me it is not critical.

[figwam]

The aircraft-carrying cruiser of the SF “Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov” carried out firing at a naval target from the “Dagger” air defense system, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported.

The S-300 can also hit ground targets.

[GSH-18]

Quote: figvam

The aircraft-carrying cruiser of the SF “Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov” carried out firing at a naval target from the “Dagger” air defense system, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported.

The S-300 can also hit ground targets.

Yes, and anti-tank systems can be fired at helicopters. So what? And from AK in general, you can beat anything for anything!
I mean, weapons systems are not just narrowly unified.

[31rus]

Dear GSH-18, ZRAK "Kortik / Kashtan", from the very beginning is designed to combat air and small-sized sea targets

[GSH-18]

Quote: 31rus

Dear GSH-18, ZRAK "Kortik / Kashtan", from the very beginning is designed to combat air and small-sized sea targets

I agree with you. This is such a unification both on land and by air. It is small-sized marine. But because of this, the effectiveness of use against aircraft and cruise missiles is reduced, the probability of hitting an aerodynamic target is 0,4-0,7 2005 data.

[31rus]

Dear GSH-18, ZRAK "Kortik / Kashtan", from the very beginning is designed to combat air and small-sized sea targets

[tlauicol]

SAM with a semi-active and active GOS may well hit surface targets within the radio horizon (for the Dagger, 15 kilometers), if they are illuminated from the ship. since the 60s

[GSH-18]

Quote: figvam

The aircraft-carrying cruiser of the SF “Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov” carried out firing at a naval target from the “Dagger” air defense system, the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation reported.

The S-300 can also hit ground targets.

This is an option, not a primary purpose.

[Throw]

This is not an "option", but a property of some extreme air defense systems in service - good selectivity of electronic systems, which allows hitting targets both in jamming conditions and against the background of the underlying surface at zero heights.

Moreover, 300ka can generally shoot at a target, incl. ground, which is not highlighted, i.e. just by the coordinates of the control unit, like a tactical missile.
And a hundred kg of TNT and 20 of thousands of destructive elements were shrapnel ...

[Mavric]

Normally he shoots from the "Dagger", there is a TV set. You can at least shoot through it. AK 630 is the same as for air defense, nevertheless it normally shoots all over, UVN (vertical guidance angles) are quite possible.

[kepmor]

They shoot, and how! Remember the "sea battle with the Georgian fleet" in 2008. "Albros" (1124M) successfully fired at their boats from the "Osa-MA" air defense system. He himself commanded such a ship in the 90s, but only shot at the exhibition center.

[gjv]

Quote: GSH-18

Who wrote this? What is the name of this journalist ??

Ask this question to the Press Service of the Northern Fleet (Severomorsk).
Serga Vadim Aleksandrovich, Head of the Press Service of the Northern Fleet (Severomorsk)
Phone: [phone]
Email: [email protected]
In general, here's a video from Vladimirich below essentially shows the possibility of such firing.

[Army1]

Quote: GSH-18

The aircraft carrier cruiser SF "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov" fired at a sea target from the air defense missile system "Dagger"

Who wrote this? What is the name of this journalist ??
Fired on sea targets from the "Dagger" anti-aircraft missile complex. AS??? SAM firing actually on air targets. And did they train with earth-to-earth missiles? We wear everything round, we roll everything square? Well, the journalists give!

I will tell you a secret in the case of naval battle, the reaction rate of the air defense missile system is faster than the PCR, and they do an excellent job with this task within the radio range.

[PSih2097]

Quote: GSH-18

Firing at sea targets from the "Dagger" anti-aircraft missile complex was carried out.

maybe the P-700 was shot on the eve of kapitalki? Although they removed it, horseradish knows when ...

[upadeishev]

and the Caribbean ....

[marlin1203]

Why is everyone so happy? He shot himself with a "dagger"; a medium-short-range air defense complex. For air cover, he generally has an air wing, which is much more effective. And this wonderful ship is called TAVKR for short. So he is a cruiser because it carries 12 × SCRC 4K80 "Granit", but this is already serious. But for some reason I did not hear that he was shot with this most powerful anti-ship strike complex in our fleet today. Maybe someone in the subject? What's the matter? Are they saving?

[Vladimyrych]

They match him with a MIG-29KUB. Already experiencing.

GSH-18 and what do I have to do with it? Infa longtime.
And a huge pile of articles.
Example:
http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/762134/

[GSH-18]

Quote: Vladimir

They match him with a MIG-29KUB. Already experiencing.

This is complete crap. You can not remove the Su-33! These Migi in comparison with Sushki look like flies. And the combat capabilities, respectively, are at least halved.
My opinion: mainly Sushki should be based on aircraft-carrying cruisers and our future Aircraft carriers.

[PSih2097]

Mig complements and replaces when writing off sushi (ATP Poghosyan for Su35, which is not soiled) ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: MainBeam

He should go to Cuba
with a full set of Su-33 and Su-25 on board.

And why on deck "Kuzi" SU-25 UTG - "doves of peace"?

[maxim1987]

Quote: Alexey RA

And why on deck "Kuzi" SU-25 UTG - "doves of peace"?

Su-25 served as targets. and not part of the air group

[Andy]

Quote: Alexey RA

And why on deck "Kuzi" SU-25 UTG - "doves of peace"?

educational training. eaglets learn to fly! something like this

[Thronekeeper]

The Su-30SM2 chilling program has just begun, but it was necessary to start the day before yesterday. Or "Irbis" to put on all the Su-33s. So the Su-33 is almost the most obsolete aircraft of all our "Flankers" in terms of avionics, land updates that have not "aged" by the airframe and are not torn under EBNism.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Thronekeeper

The Su-30CM2 wetting program was launched only now, and it was necessary to start the day before yesterday.

As for me, these are much better, especially since they were created for "Ulyanovsk".

and Poghosyan K.O.Z.E.L

[DenZ]

Quote: MainBeam

To Cuba, he would have to go with a complete set of Su-33 and Su-25 on board.

In case of a serious mess, this is a one-way ticket. Without options. To demonstrate the flag is possible.

[Mainbeam]

Quote: DenZ

In the case of a serious mess, this is a one-way ticket. No options.

In the case of a serious mess, there is one option.
But you can show off in full.
Especially with a nuclear submarine under the keel with "calibers" on board.

Quote: DenZ

Demonstrate the flag - it is possible.

It is necessary to distract the Yankos from Syria, then there were recommendations on the introduction of troops into Syria and Iraq.
And with the "Kuzey" on their shores, and even with the Su-25 on board ... Cheeky in the groin
.

[Teberii]

The planned exercises once again showed that we are peaceful people, but our armored train is always ready.

[maxim1987]

"Kuzya" once again showed that it is not just a platform for aircraft

[Manul]

And have his Granites ever been launched?

[Vladimyrych]

As far as we know, the "Granites" mines near Kuzi are flooded.

[gispanec]

so granites have a raw start

[Manul]

Quote: gispanec

so granites have a raw start

Dear, so will someone tell me? Shoot Kuzya Granites at least once in his life, or not?
As I understand it, I should have done it somewhere, but it’s interesting to me - it’s really such that an aircraft carrier simultaneously launches missiles, and at the same time planes take off from it ..?

[favn]

Clarify, who knows, SAM "Dagger" learned to hit "exposed sea targets"? I believed that he was working exclusively on air targets. No?

[Manul]

Quote: favn

Clarify, who knows, SAM "Dagger" learned to hit "exposed sea targets"? I believed that he was working exclusively on air targets. No?

Look for information on how during the Georgian conflict in 2008 our ships with the help of the "Wasp" calmed the Georgian "squadron". On VO there was an article about this.

[Engineer]

Yes, it is outdated, it has an archaic power plant, there are no catapults, it drags anti-ship missiles taking the place of aircraft hangars, an inferior wing without AWACS planes ... but it is, it is ours, and it’s damn charismatic.

[Mainbeam]

As far as I remember, its main advantage is autonomy. He can defend himself, and even attack if necessary. Unlike purebred aircraft carriers that can only drown on their own, they also use cover, escort and supply ships.

[huntsman650]

Exploited this air defense missile 13 years. This is an analogue of the ground top missile defense system. There are 4 of them at Kuz. Able to accompany and fire at 4 targets at the same time each sight. there is a mode of firing at a sea target, while the rocket has a hardened radio fuse and the missile is guided by a missile slide, i.e. hits from above, detonation is carried out at the target, non-contact.

[31rus]

In principle, everything is correct, only additions and more artillery and another correction on the "Kuza" there are 8 of them

[Dan Slav]

System check in progress. So, they are preparing for something. For a long trip or what?
The former chief of staff says that soon there will be a sandstorm season in Syria.
Will it be possible to fly from land? Or do we have to drive our Kuzyu there !?

[chunga-changa]

The offensive choked. Now there will be everything else, and land and ships.

[Hammer]

maybe even here they will tell me where you looked at Kuzi anti-ship missiles?

[huntsman650]

According to the project, they are there, it is called an entom cruiser, but in fact .... it's a secret

[cormorant]

Here they lurk ...

[PSih2097]

Quote: cormorant

Here they lurk ...

there is not a damn ... in the 2000s flooded ...

[PSih2097]

Quote: cormorant

Here they lurk ...

there is not a damn ... in the 2000s flooded ...

[huntsman650]

Quote: 31rus

In principle, everything is correct, only additions and more artillery and another correction on the "Kuza" there are 8 of them

SAM "Dagger" on Kuza 4 pcs. Sit down to you 2 points.
taken from here http://dokwar.ru/publ/vooruzhenie/aviacija_i_flot/avianosec_admiral_kuznecov/15-
1-0-107
Anti-aircraft missile armament - 4 modules of the Dagger air defense system (192 SAMs) and 8 modules of the Kortik air defense missile system (256 missiles and 48 000-mm shells) located on the sponsors side-by-side, provide the possibility of circular firing of air targets.

[31rus]

I apologize, I meant "Dagger", it was about him, so I got stuck

[31rus]

I apologize, I meant "Dagger", it was about him, so I got stuck

[Old26]

Quote: oleg-gr

It's time to set goals in the Mediterranean

No, on Mars ....

Quote: GSH-18

Aircraft carrier “Admiral Kuznetsov” fired for training purposes in the Barents Sea

Since when did "Kuznetsov" suddenly become an AIR CARRIER ???
All my life I was TAKR (heavy aircraft carrier cruiser). Did I miss something? Not? We HAVE NO AIRPLANES. But the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has already signed an agreement with USC for the construction of the first flat-deck Russian Aircraft Carrier. Details are naturally secret for now. But this alone is already very pleasing!

And as a TAKER it does not exist, since there are no "granites" on it. That is, there is no cruiser from it. Aircraft carrier - at the very least, but at least some

Quote: Now we are free

If Kuznetsov sent to the shores of Syria

In 2015, they definitely won’t send it, it seems like they do not plan ...

Quote: g1v2

Can you link to the official summary of the conclusion of the construction contract?

How can you not understand. The data is SECRET. An agreement was signed for the construction of an aircraft carrier, which has not yet been adopted an advance project. Except as a model and schemes - nothing. But the contract is concluded ...

Quote: GSH-18

http://bastion-karpenko.narod.ru/AW_XXI_01.html

Well ... however.
Did you read the article itself? But it says there:
Russian Ministry of Defense ordered United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) advance project development promising aircraft-carrying cruiser. This, as reported by Interfax, said Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov. He noted that funding for the construction of such ships is not provided for by the Russian state armaments program for 2011-2020. "Until 2020, this money is not, and we do not plan", - said the minister.
Even taking into account that this was said by Serdyukov, nothing has changed. For a year or two, you can’t go from an advance project to a technical project, even if you really want to. Moreover, it will be necessary to build cooperation from scratch. Talking about building an aircraft carrier now is about the same as talking about building a spaceship for research by Alpha Centauri

Quote: GSH-18

Firing at sea targets from the "Dagger" anti-aircraft missile complex was carried out.

[Denis Skiff]

Quote: GSH-18

Aircraft carrier “Admiral Kuznetsov” fired for training purposes in the Barents Sea

Since when did "Kuznetsov" suddenly become an AIR CARRIER ???
All my life I was TAKR (heavy aircraft carrier cruiser). Did I miss something? Not? We HAVE NO AIRPLANES. But the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has already signed an agreement with USC for the construction of the first flat-deck Russian Aircraft Carrier. Details are naturally secret for now. But this alone is already very pleasing!

But wasn’t they called him so that the Bosporus and Dardanelles could pass without problems? Normal aircraft carrier.

[Old26]

Quote: Denis-Skiff

But wasn’t they called him so that the Bosporus and Dardanelles could pass without problems? Normal aircraft carrier.

Our leadership has always had very "tender feelings" for aircraft carriers. Even Khrushchev called aircraft carriers "weapons of aggression." How then to call an aircraft carrier-aircraft carrier. And it had nothing to do with the straits.

[Zomanus]

And it would be nice to "reflash" "Kuzyu" for Caliber.
I think that there will be enough space for at least one launcher for eight cells.
Although it probably already makes no sense ...

[Old26]

Quote: Zomanus

And it would be nice to "reflash" "Kuzyu" for Caliber.
I think that there will be enough space for at least one launcher for eight cells.
Although it probably already makes no sense ...

NAFIGA ????????? Here explain to me what kind of mania it is, where it is necessary, and where it is not necessary to cling "CALIBERS"? So that it can match the "river-sea" ship in terms of shock capabilities? Why does an aircraft carrier need subsonic weapons, be it anti-ship missiles or ship-to-ground missiles ??? Is it designed to get closer to the coast and launch such cruise missiles on land77? And it is not better not to make it unclear what from the ship: either undercruiser, or undercruiser, and do as all normal people do. Impact weapons on escort ships, aviation on an aircraft carrier

[YaMZ-238]

Well done !!!! They are on combat duty while we are working here in Mother Russia! Protect from adversaries! Now you can relax a bit)))