Syrian long-range gun C-23

The C-50 cannon that appeared in the USSR in the middle of the 23-s could rightly be called the "Tsar Cannon". NATO experts then noted that the gun has outstanding characteristics, especially with regard to the firing range. Later it weapon appeared in the Middle East. About this in his article for Messenger of Mordovia writes Lev Romanov.

C-23 on Red Square

“The technical specifications are amazing even now. The mass in the combat position - more than 21 t. Calculation of 16 people. And the firing range for its time was a record. High-explosive projectile with a mass of 88 kg could hit targets at a distance of more than 30 km. At that time, many multiple rocket launchers did not even come close to such characteristics, ”the author writes.

However, the gun did not take root in the Soviet army - while the command was too carried away by rocket projects. The gun was remembered closer to 70, when USSR friends in the Middle East needed long-range artillery. Choice stopped at C-23.

“Since the production of this weapon was discontinued at that time, Soviet defenders had to make titanic efforts to reanimate the release of the gun. An active-projectile with a firing range of almost 44 km was specially developed for it, ”writes Romanov.

The main recipients of C-23 were Egypt and Syria. The Israelis during the war 1973 g managed to capture one of these guns.

Trophy cannon

It is not known how many guns are left in service with the Syrian army, but photos published on the Internet say that they exist.

The last time C-23 was fixed on the positions of the Syrian government forces in May 2015.

C-23 Syrian Government Forces

Comments

[aviator1913]

And where are the characteristics of the gun? Types of shells? What she managed to destroy, what is the operating experience. Bad and incomplete article.

[drlalex]

About her, even on Wikipedia, very little has been written. This article does not mention only the fact that a rocket fired for 40km

[marlin1203]

Ammunition is painfully exotic. (180 mm). They probably do not produce them already. If only the warehouse was in stock. And you need a lot of them now ...

[Amurets]

The caliber 180mm and ammunition are suitable for it from sea and coastal cannons. I don’t remember only with deep or shallow cuts, most likely with deep ones. This gun was created in NII-58 Grabina. Materials for this gun see: Shirokorad Encyclopedia of Russian artillery. Big triplex NII-58.

[goose]

With deep, because the trunks with small slices ceased to be produced in the mid-40s.

[pv1005]

Russian written in white

An active rocket with a firing range of almost 44 km was specially developed for her. ”

. Or did you just read the headline?

[Sid.74]

Quote: drlalex

About her, even in Wikipedia quite a bit written.

And why do you need Wikipedia? Here is a link to the article ...180 mm C-23 gun (52-P-572)

Performance characteristics of the 180 mm C-23 cannon:
Caliber - 180 millimeters;
Barrel length - 47,2 gauges (7170 mm);
Firing range:
high-explosive fragmentation projectile - 30390 m;
active-projectile - 43700 m;
Aim rate of fire - 0,5-1 shot per minute;
Angles of guidance:
horizontal guidance - 40 degrees;
vertical guidance - from -2 to + 50 degrees;
Charging - separate-sleeve;
Sights: gun panorama PG-1М, mechanical sight C-85, aiming tube MVSHP for direct fire;
Weight in the fighting position - 19750 (21450) kg;
The length of the short pullback - 700 mm;
The length of the long pullback - 1350 mm;
The maximum length of the rollback - 1440 mm;
The length in the stowed position - 10490 mm;
Width in the stowed position - 3025 mm;
The transition time from marching to martial status - 30 minutes;
Calculation - 14 (16) people;
Traction - tractor tracked AT-T;
Highway towing speed - up to 35 km / h;
Off-road towing speed - up to 12 km / h.

Ammunition:
- shot VF-572 having a high-explosive projectile F-572 (projectile mass - 88 kg, explosive mass - 10,7 kg, firing range - 30,39 km, initial speed - 860 m / s);
-GH-572 shot having a concrete-drilling projectile G-572;
- shot VO28 having an active-high-explosive high-explosive projectile OF43 (projectile mass - 84 kg, explosive mass - 5,616 kg, firing range - 43,7 km),

[Thronekeeper]

Performance characteristics of the 180 mm C-23 cannon:
Caliber - 180 millimeters;
Barrel length - 47,2 gauges (7170 mm);
Firing range:
high-explosive fragmentation projectile - 30390 m;
active-projectile - 43700 m;
Aim rate of fire - 0,5-1 shot per minute;
Angles of guidance:
horizontal guidance - 40 degrees;
vertical guidance - from -2 to + 50 degrees;
Charging - separate-sleeve;
Sights: gun panorama PG-1М, mechanical sight C-85, aiming tube MVSHP for direct fire;
Weight in the fighting position - 19750 (21450) kg;
The length of the short pullback - 700 mm;
The length of the long pullback - 1350 mm;
The maximum length of the rollback - 1440 mm;
The length in the stowed position - 10490 mm;
Width in the stowed position - 3025 mm;
The transition time from marching to martial status - 30 minutes;
Calculation - 14 (16) people;
Traction - tractor tracked AT-T;
Highway towing speed - up to 35 km / h;
Off-road towing speed - up to 12 km / h.

Ammunition:
- shot VF-572 having a high-explosive projectile F-572 (projectile mass - 88 kg, explosive mass - 10,7 kg, firing range - 30,39 km, initial speed - 860 m / s);
-GH-572 shot having a concrete-drilling projectile G-572;
- shot VO28 having an active-high-explosive high-explosive projectile OF43 (projectile mass - 84 kg, explosive mass - 5,616 kg, firing range - 43,7 km),

At the beginning of the 1970-ies were shipped to Egypt, India, Iraq, Syria and Somalia.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: drlalex

“Since the production of this weapon was discontinued at that time, Soviet defenders had to make titanic efforts to reanimate the release of the gun. An active-projectile with a firing range of almost 44 km was specially developed for it, ”writes Romanov.

Especially for you

[zennon]

Quote: aviator1913

And where are the characteristics of the gun? Types of shells? What she managed to destroy, what is the operating experience. Bad and incomplete article.

Here is a good one and complete. Enjoy:
http://topwar.ru/18364-pushka-s-23-52-p-572.html
I highly recommend visiting the museum in Poklonnaya Gora in Moscow. There is a 180 mm cannon on a railway platform.

[BULLIT]

What's the difference! Fuck them these characteristics! The main thing is that ISIL mows black heads well ... and that’s it !!!

[Corsair0304]

And-and-and-and-and ??? Where is the result of the application? Either the shells ended or the gun calculations from the 50s / 70s were not replenished.
To be honest - I did not understand what the article was about, what was its message.

[zyablik.olga]

It is not known how many guns are left in service with the Syrian army, but photos published on the Internet say that they exist.

Only it is not known whether there are shells for them and in what condition these guns themselves are.

[Engineer]

How can I write about a gun and not even specify a caliber? The gun included the composition of the famous Grabin triplex: 180mm S-23 gun, 210mm S-33 howitzer and 280mm S-43 mortar. In the series did not go. Only the gun was produced in small batches. In addition to Syria, it was not shipped anywhere else.

ps a successful camouflage by a Syrian gunner on his face.

[kirpich]

OH .... I can’t even imagine what was there ....

[Sergey-72]

Most likely left as a relict fossil. There are hardly any units on this weapon. And it will be of benefit, in the line of sight from the TOU they will fail, for 30 km a shot to nowhere (even if you take into account the UAV adjustment). In short, this is a story, IMHO.

[Kyrgyz]

Do you think gunners are out of line of sight shooting at random? Sense may be there but ammunition is definitely not enough, and given their exotic nature, it will be expensive to order them

[goose]

You read that wrong about artillery. The large-caliber, in view of the relatively low initial speed, has a very large accuracy (if correctly designed), and even puts it 30 km where it needs to. As an example, the destruction of a hydroelectric power station from the landfill by a 4th shell of a gun is practically at a maximum range of 45 km.
The projectile flies a significant part of the trajectory in the stratosphere and experiences minimal perturbations from the atmosphere, other perturbations are compensated, for the most part, by the precession of the projectile.

[anderles66]

Forgive me, but "Bulletin of Mordovia" is already muffled. How long can any nonsense be published here?

[Fight cat]

A good argument in disputes with Wahhabis!

[gladcu2]

Auto RU.

"NATO experts then noted that the gun has outstanding characteristics,"

Is it possible to trust them?

From the moment of my conscious age I have been sucked in that beyond the hill is getting better. Well, when he matured, but the world looked. Yes, compared. And I realized that since childhood someone stubbornly wanted to fuck me, as it were, to put it mildly.

[your1970]

May 2015 ...
since they still haven’t handed over for scrap, it means there are shells, the accuracy is higher than that of the MLRS when firing at specific targets

[lilian]

In my opinion, long-range artillery is a good thing if it is used massively. At least several batteries at one point must send a certain amount of ammunition to compensate for the dispersion of shells.

If the Syrians can provide the necessary density of fire and have a good supply of shots, then the gun will be useful to them.

[alone]

Syrian long-range gun C-23

From which hangover did the S-23 become Syrian? It was impossible to write about otm, the Soviet S-23 was in service with the Syrian Army, and it turns out as if it was the Syrians who developed the S-23

[Old26]

Quote: Engineer

In addition to Syria, it was not shipped anywhere else.

It was delivered. To Bulgaria, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, India (at least)

Quote: Sergey-72

There are hardly any units on this weapon.

At least 10 guns now