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The American media recently talked about the "pressure" on Barack Obama. Why "put pressure" on the president? It turns out that the current owner of the Oval Office had the reputation of a weakling, and its weakness is especially visible in Syria, where the Russians are now setting the tone. Even his Secretary of State, John Kerry, is displeased with Obama's behavior. The only one who for the company with Obama does not dare to "confront" Russia in the Middle East - this is Secretary of Defense Ash Carter.




This was told by journalists Mark Mazetti and Peter Baker (Mark Mazzetti and Peter Baker) in the newspaper "New York Times".

The Obama administration has come under fire. The heated discussions between the White House administration and its opponents were prompted by the question of the need to deploy American military forces in order to create a no-fly zone and a security zone in Syria. The purpose of creating such a zone is to ensure the protection of civilians suffering from civil war.

As the publication points out, the White House is still very skeptical about the idea of ​​creating a no-fly zone in Syria. Nevertheless, the refugee crisis in Europe and Russia's military intervention in the situation in Syria led to "increased pressure on President Obama." Opponents urge him to "take more drastic measures." And even Secretary of State John Kerry, like many others, believes that it is necessary to use the US air force to ensure the security of the Syrians. This was reported to journalists by unnamed officials.

Interestingly, at the same meeting in the White House, Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter presented the Pentagon report, which contained “sobering” assessments about the need to use “extensive military resources” to create security zones. Therefore, Carter’s office considers it “dubious wisdom” to take similar measures in Syria. In addition, Russia's military operations in Syria increase the risk of unintentional clashes between different forces - if the Americans try to block certain areas of the country.

Mark Mazetti and Peter Baker remind us that just a few weeks ago, the idea of ​​a no-fly zone was Obama publicly rejected. And now the conversation turned again. This underlines, according to journalists, the relevance of the crisis. Tens of thousands of Syrians are fleeing to Europe today.

There is another factor pushing American politicians to again and again discuss measures to resolve the Syrian crisis. Politicians seeking to implement some kind of success strategy in the Middle East express their disappointment with Obama.

What options offer opponents of the current president?

Among the options discussed in the White House were military projects to create safe zones for civilians on the borders of Syria with Turkey and Jordan. Officials presented various options, including those that provided for the creation of security zones solely for the provision of humanitarian assistance. Other, "more ambitious" projects included the allied actions of the Syrian opposition forces and the Americans.

However, the presentation prepared at the Pentagon, clearly demonstrated that this operation would require a huge number of aircraft and people. Such actions would require the use of airplanes and personnel even outside those states that are part of the coalition and inflict airstrikes on Islamic State facilities in Syria and Iraq.

Mr. Obama himself was not present at the White House meeting. Instead, national security adviser Susan Rice participated. No official decision was made, of course.

It is also known that those who are in favor of strengthening the role of America in world politics after the meeting had "dull" faces. Some even said they suspected Pentagon officials of over-estimating the military resources they might need to conduct an operation in Syria. This overstatement the Pentagon did ostensibly to convince President Obama not to change his policies in the region.

The White House declined to comment on the publication.

However, in the US, the number of those who call for action in Syria is growing. Among those calling are “veterans” of the Obama administration, for example, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. This potential presidential candidate in October spoke in favor of creating a no-fly zone in Syria. Clinton wants to "try to stop the slaughter." A couple of weeks ago, former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates published an article in which, along with Condoleezza Rice, he urged the president to rethink his position.

Meanwhile, military experts warn that it would be difficult for civilians to create a security zone without a large number of ground forces. All of these insurgents "have a tendency to move," said Karl Muller, a political analyst at RAND Corporation and an expert in the use of air power, with irony. Therefore, we would have to solve the difficult task of preserving the “zones”.

Bottom line: if Secretary of State D. Kerry and other political figures are in favor of a more active US role in Syria and are calling for a halt to the humanitarian crisis, the Pentagon is calling for caution.

Journalists are also reminded that in 2013, General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, stated in a letter to Congress that any military intervention in Syria would be an "act of war." Control over the security zones in Syria, according to his calculations, would have cost Washington more than 1 billion dollars a month.

The submission also notes that recently the United States and Russia signed an agreement on how to avoid accidental encounters in the skies over Syria during certain operations. True, the authors say, there are no guarantees that "the Kremlin will respect the boundaries of the no-fly zone declared by the United States." K. Muller says that Russians, concerned about a possible American intervention threatening the Assad regime, may deploy new air defense systems in Syria.

To this we must add that Obama’s Republican opponents, striving for the presidency, also use Obama's “weakness”.

Two weeks ago, a potential US Republican presidential candidate, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, speaking on MSNBS, called Obama a “weakling.”

Christie himself, apparently, not weak. “First of all, I would call Vladimir and say:“ We are introducing a no-fly zone, and this applies to everyone, including you. So don’t even try, ”a brave governor is quoted as saying. RIA News".

Giving an interview to Fox News, the same politician said that if Russia violated the non-flying zone, its planes should be shot down. The prospect of war with Russia did not embarrass him: “We spent a myriad of money and American blood to destroy the USSR. We must not allow him to return. ”

Roughly the same is true of another Republican candidate, Marco Rubio. He supports the idea of ​​introducing a no-fly zone into Syria, RIA notesNews”, And believes that if Russia violated the borders of such a zone, it would“ have problems ”.

Let's sum up.

Republican hawks, as well as a number of representatives of the Democratic Party, including not only presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, but also Secretary of State John Kerry, are attacking B.H. Obama, urging him to introduce a no-fly zone over the territory of Syria. Next to Obama, Defense Minister Ash Carter courageously defends himself against the attacks of the hawks. It seems that this is the only person (besides the president) who is not happy with the prospect of a possible clash in Syria with the Russians. Well, let alone frantic republicans are ready to come together with the Russians in battle and are ready for blood - if only the USSR would not appear on the map again.

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  1. Bogenovav
    Bogenovav 28 October 2015 06: 13 New
    +9
    “We are introducing a no-fly zone, and this applies to everyone, including you. So don’t even try, ”the pug barked around the corner
    1. tracker
      tracker 28 October 2015 06: 47 New
      +6
      he hasn’t grown up yet
      1. beitar
        beitar 28 October 2015 07: 20 New
        -14
        Russia's great fortune is that the US president is such a jerk as Barack Hussein Obama ...
        1. Kuzyakin15
          Kuzyakin15 28 October 2015 08: 12 New
          +4
          Quote: beitar
          Russia's great fortune is that the US president is such a jerk as Barack Hussein Obama ...

          Maybe! Or maybe the candidates are simply promoting "militarism" propaganda.
          They are not complete
        2. Mikhail Krapivin
          Mikhail Krapivin 28 October 2015 08: 22 New
          +5
          Very controversial issue, whose more is luck. A nuclear fungus, it doesn’t care where the growth is, in Moscow, Washington or Hebron.
          1. beitar
            beitar 28 October 2015 08: 56 New
            -2
            As the unforgettable Mao said, the nuclear bomb is a paper tiger. You can scare, you can not use
            1. GRIG
              GRIG 28 October 2015 09: 11 New
              11
              Quote: beitar
              As the unforgettable Mao said, the nuclear bomb is a paper tiger. You can scare, you can not use

              Those who dropped the bomb on Hiroshima did not think so. As well as those on whose heads she fell.
              Yes, and today some kind of ISIS, if he had such an opportunity, would not frighten, would use it. It depends on whose hands this "paper tiger" is.
              1. beitar
                beitar 28 October 2015 10: 17 New
                -5
                I'm talking about countries, not about terrorist organizations
                1. alexej123
                  alexej123 28 October 2015 10: 41 New
                  11
                  Guys, you are not satisfied with the secular regime of Assad. Think with your brains if you can, there is no Assad, radicals rule in Syria. Are you thinking of sitting on the sidelines? WILL NOT WORK. The whole MIDDLE EAST will attack you? Do you understand this? And the paper tiger's nuclear weapons won't help you. You will simply be vomited from all sides. And America will urge everyone to restrain. So, put a candle to GDP for health.
                  1. Xergey
                    Xergey 28 October 2015 14: 23 New
                    +1
                    I agree completely, but it is not clear why Israel still does not understand this, it seems they are not stupid people, and intelligence is not the latest in the world, hell will begin there, from all sides, and no one will even blather into Israel’s help.
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                3. GRIG
                  GRIG 28 October 2015 12: 52 New
                  +1
                  Quote: beitar
                  I'm talking about countries, not about terrorist organizations

                  Figuratively ... A monkey with a grenade does not know exactly what you consider it to be a monkey. As well as ISIS do not care that someone considers it not a state.
            2. SVD
              SVD 28 October 2015 11: 02 New
              +2
              So what, then, is Israel yelling about that Iran is going to make an atomic bomb?
              1. beitar
                beitar 28 October 2015 11: 22 New
                -1
                Not yelling, but warning. The fanatical Islamic Iran officially denies Israel's right to exist. Our lesson from history, especially the 20th century, is that if someone threatens to exterminate the Jews, his threats should be taken seriously. Therefore, the idea of ​​Iran’s possession of nuclear weapons is unacceptable to us, and Iran will not have nuclear weapons as a result.
                By the way, I don’t think that Russia also needs an Islamist neighbor with nuclear weapons and long-range missiles
                1. Belousov
                  Belousov 28 October 2015 12: 16 New
                  +2
                  How categorically: "The idea of ​​Iran's possession of nuclear weapons is unacceptable to us, and as a result Iran will not have nuclear weapons." Will there be enough strength if Iran suddenly succeeds in its nuclear program? Or will you go wandering for 40 years again?
                2. aleks 62 next
                  aleks 62 next 28 October 2015 13: 06 New
                  0
                  .... By the way, I do not think that Russia also needs an Islamist neighbor with nuclear weapons and long-range missiles ...


                  .... We already have a neighbor with nuclear weapons - Pakistan .... You also don’t know what to expect from him ... hi
                3. Dema46
                  Dema46 28 October 2015 13: 12 New
                  0
                  and the Israelis do not deny the right of others to exist? but do not declare their God's chosen people? and fanatics, knocking their forehead against the wall, in the hope of being heard by someone, do not you? you have to be so strange, they write notes on the wall, and then they are surprised that they are talking to the wall.
                  1. beitar
                    beitar 28 October 2015 17: 53 New
                    +1
                    It seems strange to you to write notes in the wailing wall, it seems strange to us to bang your forehead on the floor in a church or monasticism. Let's respect each other and perceive as they are
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                5. Xergey
                  Xergey 28 October 2015 14: 28 New
                  0
                  If in Syria everything is going to be bad, then the threats of Iran will seem like babble to you when the igil comes, and he will certainly come to you if there is an opportunity.
                6. andrewkor
                  andrewkor 28 October 2015 18: 13 New
                  0
                  give the Arab lands to the Palestinians and Syrians and you will be happy.
            3. aleks 62 next
              aleks 62 next 28 October 2015 12: 58 New
              0
              ..... As the unforgettable Mao said, ...

              ... Mao has long been gone .... And everything flows and everything changes over time ..... hi
        3. dog1965
          dog1965 28 October 2015 10: 02 New
          +3
          There is an inexorable course of history. The story can only be slightly slowed down or slightly spurred. And it doesn't matter who the president is in the States. He rules there only nominally.
        4. alexej123
          alexej123 28 October 2015 10: 36 New
          +5
          It is a great success for Israel that the President of the Russian Federation is GDP.
          1. beitar
            beitar 28 October 2015 11: 25 New
            +2
            I can’t say that. We are neutral to Russia and GDP. Israel is the only Western country to refuse to condemn Russia for Ukrainian events
            1. alexej123
              alexej123 28 October 2015 11: 36 New
              11
              What are the specific events in Ukraine? Maidan, neo-Nazi sabbaths, genocide of Donbass residents? Whom to judge? Who, themselves admitted, invested $ 5 billion in the Maidan? You refused to condemn them, I agree. Russia for what to judge - I am powdering concrete facts, and not information from "democratic" media.
              When the Nazis came for the communists, I was silent, but I am not a communist.
              Then they came for the Social Democrats, I was silent, but I am not a Social Democrat.
              Then they came for union leaders, I was silent, I'm not a union member.
              Then they came for the Jews, I was silent, I'm not a Jew.
              And then they came for me, and there was no one who could protest. ”
              The words of this German priest wonderfully fit the politics of the state of Israel.
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            3. aleks 62 next
              aleks 62 next 28 October 2015 13: 08 New
              0
              ..... Israel is the only Western country that refused to condemn Russia for Ukrainian events ...


              ..... And you go there too .... But in general - spit !!!! .... One more "condemnator", one less ... lol
            4. andrewkor
              andrewkor 28 October 2015 18: 15 New
              +1
              Israel is a country in the Middle East.
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        6. whiteeagle
          whiteeagle 28 October 2015 11: 27 New
          -19
          `` The great success of Russia is that the president of the United States is such a nonentity as Barack Hussein Obama ... ''
          This is a great failure of Russia. as a result, Putin got a chance to make a mistake, that is ... he pushed Russia into the sands of the Middle East.
          1. alexej123
            alexej123 28 October 2015 11: 39 New
            +5
            Do you even understand what you wrote? Or are they obsessed with the Anglo-Saxon "Great Game"?
          2. GRIG
            GRIG 28 October 2015 13: 07 New
            +2
            Quote: whiteeagle
            Putin got a chance to make a mistake ie ... he pushed Russia into the sands of the Middle East.

            Those. America's presence in these very "sands of the Middle East", as well as in other "sands", such as Afghan, Ukrainian, Georgian, Baltic, European and even in a bunch of places, is not considered a mistake by the State Department?
            Having hundreds of American bases around the globe is not a mistake?
            Climbing up and down in any regions of the boorish "peddlers" of democracy, with the subsequent impoverishment of these regions, is kind of normal. Is Putin's attempt to preserve Syrian statehood a mistake?
            Your words are like the "righteous" groans of a criminal who was not allowed to rob another victim.
            1. whiteeagle
              whiteeagle 28 October 2015 15: 11 New
              -5
              America is rich and far. She can afford to drown in the sands of the Middle East.
              1. andrewkor
                andrewkor 28 October 2015 18: 18 New
                0
                and Vietnam, Afghanistan.
              2. GRIG
                GRIG 29 October 2015 08: 20 New
                +1
                Quote: whiteeagle
                America is rich and far. She can afford to drown in the sands of the Middle East.

                This tale is exclusively for all kinds of American hangers-on.
                Like "the gentleman is rich and can afford".
                America's "wealth" is based precisely on aggression against other countries.
                It's like with gangs, as soon as there are no new robberies, the organized criminal group will immediately fall apart.
                And America cannot "afford", but forced continue their policy under any pretext. Even under such morons as "protecting the civilian population of Syria" or "protecting democracy around the world, but not at home."
                Well, about "America is far away", there is a well-known modern phrase: "Do not tell my Iskander and Poplars."
          3. andrewkor
            andrewkor 28 October 2015 18: 16 New
            +1
            Ischo one hawk unfinished.
        7. Belousov
          Belousov 28 October 2015 12: 13 New
          +2
          Russia's great success is that we have a lot of geniuses, including among weapons designers.
        8. Belousov
          Belousov 28 October 2015 12: 13 New
          0
          Russia's great success is that we have a lot of geniuses, including among weapons designers.
        9. 3vs
          3vs 28 October 2015 12: 20 New
          +1
          "It's a great success for Russia that such a nonentity as Barack Hussein Obama is the president of the United States ..."
          Yes, not luck in Russia, comrade, but staffers in the first place, and the whole Sharik.
          We will not stand for the price, as the song says, the arrogant Saxons will be destroyed
          and in uniforms and, first of all, on the British Isles ...
        10. aleks 62 next
          aleks 62 next 28 October 2015 12: 57 New
          +2
          .... Russia's great luck is ....


          .... The great success of Russia is located on the nuclear submarine and the presence of "Topol" .... This somehow more accurately reflects the essence of the question .... hi
        11. Dema46
          Dema46 28 October 2015 13: 09 New
          0
          great luck for Israel, and for everyone that America has a sober president. Do you want to see thermonuclear war? or simply ?
        12. Dema46
          Dema46 28 October 2015 13: 09 New
          0
          great luck for Israel, and for everyone that America has a sober president. Do you want to see thermonuclear war? or simply ?
        13. Xergey
          Xergey 28 October 2015 14: 18 New
          0
          I do not agree with your comment, the great luck is that at the moment the president is just B.O., since if there was some kind of scumbag, then a war or something similar to military operations could already start, and if you don’t go over on the personality, none of the American establishment did not dare to take serious actions, they are all heroic words, but as you touch specifically one place is narrowed at once, in general the gut is thin, that in Amers, in Europe, the rest of the mongrel like Saudi or Kuwait is husk.
    2. science fiction writer
      science fiction writer 28 October 2015 06: 50 New
      11
      “We are introducing a no-fly zone, and this applies to everyone, including you. So don’t even try. ”

      It’s not difficult to say such words, but as a clown you will keep promises,
      tea is not Arabs on camels flying in the sky. laughing
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  2. parusnik
    parusnik 28 October 2015 06: 24 New
    10
    Yes ... hysteria in the Fashington Regional Committee .. "Friends" are being pissed off ... and we are inactive ...
  3. Locksmith
    Locksmith 28 October 2015 06: 43 New
    +3
    Well, let alone the frenzied Republicans are ready to meet the Russians in battle and are ready for blood - if only the USSR would not appear on the map again

    And never crossed the mind that half of the USA could disappear under the guise?
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 28 October 2015 08: 28 New
      +4
      Why half? You hurt yourself by mistrust of our military :)
  4. andre
    andre 28 October 2015 06: 50 New
    +3
    Pre-election blah blah blah ... But something we handed over to the Americans, since they are so quiet in Syria. Or do our flyers drive the igilas to the Saudis, in order to raise the price of oil for us and the Amers, so to speak. Chaos ... uncontrollable drinks
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  6. Silman1985
    Silman1985 28 October 2015 07: 45 New
    +1
    I don’t remember where I read the article, but it was written there (I will make a reservation earlier, I don’t answer for reliability!) That the President of the United States in the Oval Office is purely nominal, all issues are not decided by him, and not even the State Department, the senator and the president unofficially rule the country does what they say to him. Judging by recent events and inappropriate actions by Obama, this is so. But again, I’m not responsible for the reliability of the data.
    1. SibSlavRus
      SibSlavRus 28 October 2015 08: 47 New
      +5
      To steer something - the President and his team steers (the form of government and government are the same with us) and similar branches of government. But..! But, it is the final decisions (approval of the actions of the administration (executive branch) or control of the legislators) that remain with a group of very wealthy people who do not advertise themselves. And this has not been a secret for a long time (this is proved by their system of elections, the formation of the leadership of the authorities and lobbying).
      Unlike the United States, our top managers State levels that develop and make decisions are clearly visible. This is a circle of officials whom we can see at a meeting of the Security Council of Russia.
      In our country, this is defined and enshrined in federal constitutional laws.
      In states with "transparency", everything is much more complicated and deliberately confused, because impunity and irresponsibility as a condition in the event of force majeure.
  7. Gurtanchik
    Gurtanchik 28 October 2015 07: 57 New
    +1
    What are they all crud .. heroes, especially before the election. The courage and determination of idiots leads America straight to war, and nuclear.
  8. Wolka
    Wolka 28 October 2015 07: 58 New
    +1
    the Yankees with their aggressive policies (controlled chaos) failed all that is possible, but B. Obama really still has the wisdom to not add fuel to the fire, capable of finally blowing up the world ...
  9. GRIG
    GRIG 28 October 2015 08: 08 New
    13
    Quote: beitar
    Russia's great fortune is that the US president is such a jerk as Barack Hussein Obama ...

    Russia's "luck" is that it has stopped looking into the mouths of American presidents, whoever they are.
  10. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 28 October 2015 08: 25 New
    +6
    The patsaks, who have completely lost their sense of reality, are so accustomed to impunity that they lose all resistance from them and become hysterical, which threatens to turn into aggression. I hope our leadership will not yield and will give a decent answer to these radishes.
  11. cniza
    cniza 28 October 2015 08: 32 New
    +6
    Americans think straightforwardly and one-sidedly, taking into account only their interests and this is in our hands.
    1. Altona
      Altona 28 October 2015 08: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      Americans think straightforwardly and one-sidedly, taking into account only their interests and this is in our hands.

      -----------------------
      Yes, it's not just one-sided, but how the organized crime group thinks ... They use the gop-stop tactics, intimidate the "victim", then rob, or even completely cut them ... And they themselves are in the role of godfather, the rest of the six ...
  12. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 28 October 2015 08: 50 New
    +2
    The no-fly zone is a war of air defense systems, since the air fleet will not be able to fly with anything. For the future, now we need to think about missile strikes, supplying TOC systems and other similar snacks. But it will only be after Obama’s departure, so at this stage Obama is our man)))
  13. Altona
    Altona 28 October 2015 08: 54 New
    +8
    It applies to everyone ...
  14. Peaceful Basmach
    Peaceful Basmach 28 October 2015 09: 00 New
    +1
    The United States does not seem to be the United Nations, in order to introduce something, the insert is not the same. About the strait to them. They did not hear Stalin?
  15. vitya1945
    vitya1945 28 October 2015 09: 08 New
    +2
    Obama is not so stupid, although he will not reanimate himself by any no-fly zones.
  16. Old26
    Old26 28 October 2015 09: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: Kuzyakin15
    Maybe! Or maybe the candidates are simply being promoted by the propaganda of "militarism."

    Of course they are PR. The presidential elections are on the way and everyone wants to be that "tough guy" for whom the Americans should vote. Moreover, these people do not bear any responsibility. If something like this happens, they will be the first to come to power, they will mix Obama with shit ...
    Moreover, the Secretary of Defense perfectly understands all the pros, and basically the minuses of what Obama’s opponents are offering

    Quote: Peaceful Basmach
    The United States does not seem to be the United Nations, in order to introduce something, the insert is not the same. About the strait to them. They did not hear Stalin?

    Legally, of course, a UN Security Council mandate is required. However, the experience of previous conflicts shows that this decision can be made bypassing the Security Council: for example, if there is a threat of humanitarian catastrophe in order to prevent the destruction of the civilian population.

    And finally. Well stop you finally raving about it Strait to them. Stalin. Even in the days of the USSR, with its gigantic nuclear potential, this was impossible to do. And then like that - either a volcano, or a strait, or CALIBERS ...
  17. lablizn
    lablizn 28 October 2015 09: 30 New
    +2
    “We spent a myriad of money and American blood to destroy the USSR. We must not allow him to return. ”

    Well, finally admitted! And then everyone assured us that we had nothing to do with it, the USSR has outlived itself!
  18. Uzzy
    Uzzy 28 October 2015 09: 43 New
    +2
    Funny article. What are all the same high-profile guys from the State Department and candidates! You can immediately say - the road does not shine in such a white hawk! Ebot also threatened Putin for something to take down there ... And where is he now (an example of a diplomatic language)?
    But seriously, they need a no-fly zone for direct confrontation, as well as for the possibility of sheltering their offspring.
  19. Buffalo
    Buffalo 28 October 2015 11: 01 New
    +1
    Judging by the actions taken, Obama and Carter are quite adequate people.
    You feel their good knowledge. Reasonable caution is the best way out when the opponent has an advantage.
  20. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 28 October 2015 11: 34 New
    +2
    Bottom line: while Secretary of State D. Kerry and other political figures advocate a more active US role in Syria and call for an end to the humanitarian crisis, the Pentagon calls for caution


    It begs its TOTAL. The military is smarter and more pragmatic than politicians.

    Somehow such an idea arose, Dear colleagues. hi
  21. Belousov
    Belousov 28 October 2015 12: 23 New
    +1
    Politicians, especially during the pre-election period, resemble males during the mating season. Both those and others admit importance, and both try to portray themselves as the most belligerent, etc. And the Pentagon had not been very eager to fight with us before, and over the last month I think their desire to fight has become noticeably less, somewhere at the level of the desire to get a tie in the head in a dark alley. So do not pay attention to these "talkers", half of them will immediately put in their pants at the mere sight of the living Putin.
  22. drlalex
    drlalex 28 October 2015 13: 00 New
    0
    The great thing about this is that those who are now actively promoting the topic of introducing a no-fly zone and stepping up actions do this only within the framework of their election campaign, and if they come to real power, they will not hurry to answer for their words.
    And I agree, the military simply understands the entire risk of such actions, although their rhetoric is also very aggressive.
    But the most interesting thing is not even this, but the fact that our wonderful liberals and bright elves (those for everything good and against everything bad) constantly say that the USSR itself fell apart. It’s wonderful to show excerpts from such wonderful election interviews after such words and look at the reaction.
  23. Apsit
    Apsit 28 October 2015 13: 06 New
    0
    The only one who for the company with Obama does not dare to “confront” Russia in the Middle East is Secretary of Defense Ash Carter.
    He, as a man more knowledgeable than others than this can end, behaves wiser than those who want to start a big war. That’s the whole secret of his weakness with Obama.
  24. Clueless
    Clueless 28 October 2015 15: 02 New
    0
    Giving an interview to Fox News, the same politician said that if Russia violated the non-flying zone, its planes should be shot down. The prospect of war with Russia did not embarrass him: “We spent a myriad of money and American blood to destroy the USSR. We must not allow him to return. ”


    Yes, yes, tell this to the Amerinian business, which will live in bunkers for the next 20-30 years, because there will be radioactive infection, plague, etc. And all this just to protect the terrorists :)

    Putin is not, he understands perfectly well that they will be snorting weapons, but they will certainly not fight with us for the sake of Syria. And if we fight with ease, for they begin to drive us into a corner, but we don’t like this oh
  25. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 28 October 2015 17: 27 New
    0
    Quote: beitar
    Russia's great fortune is that the US president is such a jerk as Barack Hussein Obama ...

    victim is coming out of the media? Did he promise you too?
  26. PValery53
    PValery53 28 October 2015 17: 46 New
    0
    "It's a great success for Russia that such a nonentity as Barack Hussein Obama is the president of the United States ..."
    - Well, "my friend", - thank God that Barack Hussein Obama is the president of America, otherwise America's fate would be negligible.