Most Finns do not want NATO

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The Finns spoke out against the country's entry into NATO, reports Expert Online with reference to a recent survey initiated by Yle.



According to the results of the survey, “NATO membership is supported by 22% of the Finns, 55% were against, almost a quarter of the respondents found it difficult to answer”.

After answering the first question, the second one was offered to the respondent: will your opinion change if neighboring Sweden joins NATO?

The results showed that the share of supporters in this situation increased to 35%. However, the opponents were still more - 47%. The remaining 18 percent were difficult to answer.

Earlier, the Finnish leadership declared the need to strengthen the country's defense following other European states. They also talked about plans to join NATO. However, at the official level, the alliance membership negotiations are not conducted by the Finnish government.
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  1. +11
    27 October 2015 11: 28
    Here they lived quietly, so no. Big bear threatens them. They are needed just like a hedgehog needles
    1. +9
      27 October 2015 11: 35
      Their government just wants to be called Scandinavians and Vikings. That is constantly lobbying and conducting polls to join NATO. So to be honest, they don’t need NATO.
      1. +2
        27 October 2015 11: 46
        Quote: Kil 31
        Their government just wants to be called Scandinavians and Vikings. That is constantly lobbying and conducting polls to join NATO. So to be honest, they don’t need NATO.

        So this NATO is generally something strange. What is bet with this NATO in a real battle?
        1. 0
          27 October 2015 11: 57
          Quote: Sterlya
          Quote: Kil 31
          Their government just wants to be called Scandinavians and Vikings. That is constantly lobbying and conducting polls to join NATO. So to be honest, they don’t need NATO.

          So this NATO is generally something strange. What is bet with this NATO in a real battle?

          But hell knows. Nobody knows, not us, not them.
      2. +2
        27 October 2015 12: 37
        bureaucrats are bureaucrats everywhere, and people think everywhere and we don’t need to count and sometimes listen to us for sheep with empty armpit.
    2. +3
      27 October 2015 11: 36
      Well, well, at least someone realized that the horror story about threatening Russia is a stupid NATO money scam.
    3. +3
      27 October 2015 11: 36
      But it is interesting: in such a balance of votes, how are the answers to this question distributed: "Who do you trust more, Americans or Russians?" - that would be really interesting.
      But there is one more question: "How much has the Finns' opinion changed from the point of view of world events that have taken place over the past month?"
    4. +3
      27 October 2015 11: 43
      Quote: Sterlya
      Here they lived quietly, so no. Big bear threatens them. They are needed just like a hedgehog needles

      Yes, who will ask the Finns. It’s in words they have democracy, but in practice. The US said to NATO, then to NATO.
      1. +1
        27 October 2015 12: 37
        Quote: Wend
        Yes, who will ask the Finns. It’s in words they have democracy, but in practice. The US said to NATO, then to NATO.

        With the Finns, the mattresses will be more difficult. The Finns meticulously (almost fanatically) studied democracy and abide by its principles almost more meticulously than everyone else in the world (although in the rest of the world many have long turned it all into a farce) .Therefore, the government does not dismiss the majority opinion there.
    5. +5
      27 October 2015 11: 56
      Most Finns do not want NATO.. most Finns have a head on their shoulders ...
      1. +3
        27 October 2015 12: 00
        Meanwhile, in Ukraine ... smile
        "Kiev police received 404 reports of violations during the elections"

        ... Coincidence? I don't think so! fellow
    6. +1
      27 October 2015 12: 35
      Hedgehog needles. The bald hedgehog? Some kind of Kashmar.
  2. +2
    27 October 2015 11: 30


    According to the results of the survey, “NATO membership is supported by 22% of the Finns, 55% were against, almost a quarter of the respondents found it difficult to answer”.
    The people are smarter than the government. And after the start of the operation in Syria of the Russian Aerospace Forces and the launch from the Caspian, I think the government will think about it.
    1. -5
      27 October 2015 11: 38
      These 55%, apparently, just want to return to Russia. The majority? And we’ll deal with the rest of the white finns, not the first time lol
      1. 0
        27 October 2015 13: 58
        Finns and as part of Russia had such rights that Finland could be considered a union state.
  3. +3
    27 October 2015 11: 30
    Why would they want that? So that sledgehammers fall on their Finnish heads? We will not look at the pretty faces, you have the base and the settings, get hello! And they still won’t get protection.
  4. 0
    27 October 2015 11: 31
    Will join NATO more lose.
  5. +1
    27 October 2015 11: 32
    That's right, no need to join NATO. We have Iskander soldier . And we are close. Very close.
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  7. 0
    27 October 2015 11: 32
    And she does not want to be part of the Russian Empire?))))
    1. 0
      27 October 2015 11: 38
      Quote: Engineer
      And she does not want to be part of the Russian Empire?))))

      Even before the creation of the Russian Empire (1717th year), all of the current so-called Finland until the XNUMXth century was an integral part of ancient Russia. We forget our story, offensively.
      1. 0
        27 October 2015 11: 57
        Quote: venaya
        We forget our story, offensively.

        Well, here you are. Feel better? To the current status of Finland, which side?
        Quote: venaya
        all present so-called Finland until the XNUMXth century was an integral part of ancient Russia.

        Yes? is that all?
        1. +2
          27 October 2015 12: 24
          Quote: Das Boot
          is that all?

          1. On the map you specified, mark with a dot the city "Yuryev" founded by the father of Alexander "Nevsky", for some reason this territory has a gray background there.
          2. The fact that the territory inhabited by the Karelians at that moment was under the rule of Mr. Veliky Novgorod, I personally have no doubt.
          1. +1
            27 October 2015 12: 31
            Quote: V.ic
            city ​​"Yuriev"

            is it tartu What about the Finns?
            1. 0
              27 October 2015 13: 00
              Quote: Das Boot
              city ​​"Yuriev"
              is it tartu What about the Finns?

              This name began to be used only after the occupation of 1917. In sources up to 17, the term Yuriev is used everywhere. Check, if you do not trust, someone is persistently engaged in cave Russophobia here.
              1. 0
                27 October 2015 13: 22
                Quote: venaya
                someone is persistently engaged in cave Russophobia.

                come on, what does the phobia have to do with it? Tartu was both Yuriev and Derpt. No one disputes this. The question was:
                Quote: Das Boot
                What about the Finns?

                has Tartu / Yuryev / Derpt?
                1. 0
                  27 October 2015 13: 50
                  Quote: Das Boot
                  Das Boot
                  What about the Finns?
                  has Tartu / Yuryev / Derpt?

                  Do you mind if I make a statement that Estonian belongs to the group of Finno-Ugric languages? And Finns, most likely, recognize their Estonians, not Lithuanians and Latvians.
                  1. 0
                    27 October 2015 15: 22
                    Quote: V.ic
                    Do you mind if I make a statement that the Estonian language belongs to the group of Finno-Ugric languages?

                    state it. And Yakut and Turkish - to the Turkic group. It is logical to assume that Oymyakon is related to the Ottoman Empire? Why these ethnolinguistic excursions?
                    1. 0
                      28 October 2015 02: 48
                      Quote: Das Boot
                      And Yakut and Turkish - to the Turkic group. It is logical to assume that Oymyakon is related to the Ottoman Empire? Why these ethnolinguistic excursions?

                      As for the Yakuts, they settled there quite recently, under Catherine II, they just asked, they were expelled from northern China. The Turkic language group includes both Korean and Japanese. In addition, the entire Germanic language group, the appearance of which was caused by the Turkish-Germanic conquests of Western "Europe", also has some Türkic roots, therefore, they are sometimes called Western Türkic languages. In addition, there is such a language, it is called Yiddish, as it resembles the Germanic languages, but this language is of origin from the Khazar Kaganate. Is there a connection here between the introduction of the Germanic languages ​​(remember the Oldenburg family) on the territory of the former Porusia, which happened not so long ago, the writing of the German language appeared only in the XNUMXth century.
                2. 0
                  27 October 2015 14: 23
                  Quote: Das Boot
                  what does the phobia have to do with it? Tartu was both Yuriev and Derpt. No one disputes this.

                  Agree, the concept of "founded" and "happened" is somewhat different. If the founding of the city of Yuriev by Prince Yaroslav the Wise (by the way, the father of Anna Yaroslavna, Queen of France) of the city of St. Subsequent akkupants may voluntarily call the original Russian names whatever they like, but why should we forget or be ashamed of our own history, in the name of what. Is this a form of sado-mozachism, or something more significant.
        2. 0
          27 October 2015 12: 34
          Quote: Das Boot
          Yes? is that all?

          And what year did you submit the card? Who made it up? If you continue in this spirit, then I will be forced to quote the book "Vagriya, Rus Varangian Yar". There you will learn that not only the present-day Finland, but the whole of Scandinavia was inhabited by the Rusichi. The Murmansk Pomors still tell me that they have direct family ties with the "Norwegians", and the current "Norwegian language" was adopted only in 1905. Maybe you will deny it too? But today's Finland is just in the middle. Let me remind you that the Finno-Ugric tribes hope in huge numbers on the territory of the Russian Federation, and here they see no problems at all. What caused your rejection of scientific, archaeological and linguistic research?
          1. 0
            27 October 2015 12: 44
            Quote: venaya
            What caused your rejection of scientific, archaeological and linguistic research?

            in your interpretation? Her, sorry, outright stupidity
            Quote: venaya
            and the current "Norwegian" language was adopted only in 1905. Maybe you will deny it too?
            Lord, what does this have to do with it ??? And until 1905 did the Norse speak Russian? And Danish, therefore, to do with it? Or runes not written in Scandinavian?
            Quote: venaya
            not only present Finland, but all of Scandinavia was inhabited by Rusichs.

            You remind me of the hard-boiled "researchers", but with the appropriate flavor.
            I have no more questions, as O.B. grilled.
            1. 0
              27 October 2015 13: 54
              Quote: Das Boot
              Questions like grill O.B., I have no more.

              And I will ask you a question: "grill"- what is this part of speech? What does this mean?
              1. 0
                27 October 2015 14: 57
                Quote: V.ic
                And I'll ask you a question: "grill" - what is this part of speech? What does this mean?

                inquire better with a comrade who are
                Quote: venaya
                acupunts
        3. 0
          27 October 2015 12: 48
          And where did this map come from - apparently it was done at the State Department (overseas!)
          1. 0
            27 October 2015 12: 54
            Quote: 3
            Apparently it was done at the State Department (overseas!)

            Another vigilant comrade, bringing the "liberals" to clean water? Detected by a moronic joke. Come on, attach your "correct" coloring from Ancient Rus to the whole of Scandinavia.
      2. +1
        27 October 2015 12: 23
        Quote: venaya
        all of today's so-called Finland until the XNUMXth century was an integral part of ancient Russia. We forget our story, offensively.

        Amendment. Part of the Novgorod Republic, which became under Ivan the third (IMHO) part of Russia
  8. +3
    27 October 2015 11: 34
    usually they step either into r - .. but either into the party, they either join NATO or ignore it, but Finns cannot be given birth to the second Mannerheim ...
    1. 0
      27 October 2015 11: 40
      Quote: Volka
      usually they step either into r - .. but either into the party, they either join NATO or ignore it, but Finns cannot be given birth to the second Mannerheim ...

      God forbid, for us this is .... not needed. That would cut out the Russian-speaking population in Finland and was an ally of the adversary. Think what you write. fool
      1. 0
        27 October 2015 12: 20
        Quote: keel 31
        That would cut out the Russian-speaking population in Finland and was an ally of the adversary.

        who cut out whom?
        1. 0
          27 October 2015 15: 51
          Quote: Das Boot
          Quote: keel 31
          That would cut out the Russian-speaking population in Finland and was an ally of the adversary.

          who cut out whom?

          Those whom we call belofins. Read the story of what happened after independence and what he did in order to get on top. hi
          1. 0
            27 October 2015 16: 20
            Quote: Kil 31
            Quote: Das Boot
            Quote: keel 31
            That would cut out the Russian-speaking population in Finland and was an ally of the adversary.

            who cut out whom?

            Those whom we call belofins. Read the story of what happened after independence and what he did in order to get on top. hi

            You have some kind of porridge, sorry. Mannerheim cut out white-skinned whales, who, moreover, were Russian-speaking? Facespalm. Would you yourself read a story or something ...
            1. +1
              27 October 2015 16: 47
              Quote: Das Boot
              Quote: Kil 31
              Quote: Das Boot
              Quote: keel 31
              That would cut out the Russian-speaking population in Finland and was an ally of the adversary.

              who cut out whom?

              Those whom we call belofins. Read the story of what happened after independence and what he did in order to get on top. hi

              You have some kind of porridge, sorry. Mannerheim cut out white-skinned whales, who, moreover, were Russian-speaking? Facespalm. Would you yourself read a story or something ...

              I’m not porridge, but history. Remember from history how people were humiliated after independence, as it was then called "to destroy the nation and the imperial hand in Moscow. And your beloved was doing this. He ordered to shoot at the demonstrators when they took to the streets with slogans: We are one. I can advise one to learn history.
              1. 0
                27 October 2015 17: 31
                OK. In order:
                Quote: keel 31
                That would cut out the Russian-speaking population in Finland

                If by the "Russian-speaking population" you mean the Russian garrisons, then they were disarmed by Mannerheim and Podgursky bloodlessly and for the most part sent home. Nobody was forced to fight on anyone's side. After the capture of Helsinki, there were no cases of reprisals against "Russian-speakers" either.
                Quote: keel 31
                how humiliated after non-dependence of people as it was then called

                and then, and now it was called the Civil War. Bloodless export of revolution, you know, didn’t work out - does this happen, no? And concentration camps, and white, and red terror - everything took place, and it is inappropriate and stupid to deny this tragedy. Civil war is by its nature absurd and monstrous. Mannerheim himself said that the commander in the civil war was an executioner. And, I agree, his role in the events of 1918 is far from harmless. However, everything ended there in four bloody months, and our meat grinder has just begun and lasted two years. To stoop to cynical comparisons, who were not bloodier.
                I hope we have brought some clarity?
                1. 0
                  27 October 2015 18: 04
                  [quoteCivil war is absurd and monstrous in nature. Mannerheim himself said that the commander in the civil war was an executioner. And, I agree, his role in the events of 1918 is far from harmless.]
                  But Mannerheim did not accidentally say, let the Russians drown in blood. We will rightfully take away the territories belonging to us.
  1. 0
    27 October 2015 18: 25
    Quote: keel 31
    But Mannerheim did not accidentally say, let the Russians drown in blood. We will rightfully take away the territories belonging to us.

    there was everything. And there was a Wallenius plan, and plans to create Greater Finland with northern Norway, northern Sweden and Estonia) But, in fairness - these were generally times of great ambitions on the ruins of empires. And about rhetoric ... Read the diary written by Comrade Dimitrov (this is the Executive Committee of the Comintern, if you remember) 21.01.1940/XNUMX/XNUMX., Where he quotes Joseph Vissarionych regarding Finland.
    You know, everyone is good.
  • 0
    27 October 2015 16: 02
    Quote: Das Boot
    Quote: keel 31
    That would cut out the Russian-speaking population in Finland and was an ally of the adversary.
    who cut out whom?

    Is it necessary to physically cut out human bodies?
    You can, after all, like you, cut out human memory, maybe it is even more effective. Let us remember how Napoleon burned the entire Kremlin library with the most ancient manuscripts collected throughout the country, in Moscow in 1812, or Peter I burned ancient manuscripts of the so-called "pagans". Today's, especially the Western media, do not remind you of the savages of the Middle Ages, who burned crowds of "witches", so much so that a sediment of human fat from the burned bodies of these "witches" flew into all city buildings.
    1. 0
      27 October 2015 16: 14
      Quote: venaya
      Is it necessary to physically cut out human bodies?
      You can, after all, cut out human memory, like you, maybe even more efficiently. Recall Napoleon

      Lord, what a bore.
      Quote: venaya
      savages of the Middle Ages, burning crowds of "witches"

      What witches? Which Napoleon? What kind
      Quote: venaya
      western media
      What does all this have to do with it?
      You, comrade, are fond of some primitive interpretations.
  • 0
    27 October 2015 12: 25
    Quote: Volka
    usually go either to Mr. .. but, or to the party,

    What about marriage?
  • +8
    27 October 2015 11: 35
    Finns turn out to be smart. Entry fee plus 2% of GDP give the United States for a good life and voluntary occupation in addition. It must be a Latvian, so go for it
  • +2
    27 October 2015 11: 39
    Quote: Volka
    usually they step either into r - .. but either into the party, they either join NATO or ignore it, but Finns cannot be given birth to the second Mannerheim ...

    And they didn’t give birth to him ... Germans or Swedes gave birth, brought up Russians, Finns have nothing to do with it)
  • +2
    27 October 2015 11: 42
    Quote: Tusv
    Entry fee plus 2% of GDP give the United States for a healthy life and voluntary occupation in addition.


    They will not break them in a childlike way; they will endure maintaining statehood and the best school education in the world.
    1. +1
      27 October 2015 12: 23
      Quote: cniza
      Breaking them will not be childish

      -----------------------------
      How to break them? They will leave for Estonia on a ferry or in St. Petersburg, swell to an insensitive state, and will lie in carcasses. Can you imagine? The referendum will be held on Sunday, and at the weekend, the Finns thump not in a decent way ... laughing
      1. +1
        27 October 2015 12: 48
        Quote: Altona
        The referendum will be held on Sunday, and at the weekend, the Finns thump not in a dappish way.

        Eh. Vyborg. How I miss the Battery. AND
        I want ten vodka and one bread
    2. 0
      27 October 2015 12: 38
      Quote: cniza
      they will sustain statehood and the best school education in the world.

      Europe is not in vain threatened by the financialization of Ukraine. It is necessary not with a finger but ayayay on the butt of anana.
  • 0
    27 October 2015 11: 43
    The Finns are strangled by a noose. Feel the Finns for lice.
  • +1
    27 October 2015 11: 46
    Most Finns do not want ... to be cannon fodder.
  • +2
    27 October 2015 11: 47
    The opinion of ordinary people does not bother anyone anywhere.
    1. 0
      27 October 2015 11: 59
      Quote: chunga-changa
      The opinion of ordinary people does not bother anyone anywhere.

      well so! Tell this to the PRSH, which is running around with the idea of ​​a referendum on the topic "If you want to join NATO until it scabies" laughing
  • +3
    27 October 2015 11: 50
    As I believe, the Finns were pragmatic. The danger to them is not only the choice of their country as a target for various types of weapons. In the event of hostilities between NATO and the Russian Federation, few will be interested in whether little Finland is a member of NATO or not - there is little chance of survival between a rock and a hard place. The Finns are more worried about the fact that in the event of joining NATO, the Russian Federation will strongly protect trade and transit relations (the Baltic pioneer is an example to everyone and not only the Baltic), on which many in Finland depend. Locals understand this and do not want to join NATO, the times are difficult, the possible decline in living standards is not encouraging.
  • 0
    27 October 2015 11: 53
    Go away, brother Finn, from NATO. Conclude a non-aggression pact with Russia, but live your own spock! Well, do not want ... Then come.
  • 0
    27 October 2015 11: 53
    Finns are not stupid people and they know how to count money.
  • 0
    27 October 2015 11: 55
    [quote = kil 31] [quote = Volka] ... That would cut out the Russian-speaking population in Finland and was an ally of the adversary. Think what you write. fool[/ Quote]
    In Finland, slaughtered the Russian population? Yes, and Manerheim slaughtered the population?
    1. +1
      27 October 2015 12: 25
      Quote: Velizariy
      Yes, and Manerheim slaughtered the population?

      Well, if you believe the Soviet poster on finnish tongue - butcher is one ....
    2. 0
      27 October 2015 12: 29
      or here:

      True, the Soviet agitprop does not mention anything about the Russian-speaking population, but - nonetheless ...
  • 0
    27 October 2015 12: 00
    They live calmly, no one threatens. As soon as they join NATO, they will immediately become a target for missiles. The question is, why should a quiet life be exchanged for the life of a target.
  • 0
    27 October 2015 12: 02
    The Americans need another country to market their old trash.
  • +1
    27 October 2015 12: 03
    In Soviet times, the Finns had the wisdom to be neutral. I think today wisdom has not left its neighbors.
    1. +2
      27 October 2015 12: 27
      Quote: 1goose3
      In Soviet times, the Finns had the wisdom to be neutral. I think today wisdom has not left its neighbors.

      -----------------
      During the late USSR, a special policy was pursued in relation to Finland, thanks to which the Finnish economy swelled disproportionately, round timber went to Finland at USSR domestic prices, furniture and clothes were already bought for currency ... Finland was a member of CMEA (!) ...
  • 0
    27 October 2015 12: 10
    If the opinion of people at least somehow influenced the decisions of the government ...... sad
  • 0
    27 October 2015 12: 12
    Indescribably pleasing is the fact that in the neighboring country of Russia there are still people who do not believe in "a terrible Russian bear riding a nuclear reactor", and strangely enough, and maybe even despite all the efforts of the media, they take a sober view of such a neighborhood.
    I have nothing against it. That would have stopped our (Russian) children using the trunk of the diplomatic vehicle to steal, and they have restrained their juvenile justice - in general, they would have looked like normal people.
  • 0
    27 October 2015 12: 15
    Despite the fact that the Finns drink hard, their brains are like glass, they think !!!
  • +2
    27 October 2015 12: 17
    Given free in 1917 to occupy in 2015, but when joining NATO, the US will really flood Suomi with marines and bases.
  • +1
    27 October 2015 12: 39
    Until now, the Finns, visiting the city of Vyborg as tourists, buy balalaikas, bast shoes and nested dolls. This process lasts for more than a dozen years, and each Finnish family should have 50 balalaikas and a cubic meter of 4 nested dolls each. Keep buying! Until now, some Finns receive from .... some of the population of Vyborg money of the USSR as a means of payment, and if the Finn is in the usual state for a Finnish tourist, then kerenki. Finns do not pick and eat mushrooms - why? Stupid people?
    1. -1
      27 October 2015 13: 01
      Quote: muks
      To date, the Finns, visiting the city of Vyborg as tourists, buy balalaikas, bast shoes and nested dolls. This process lasts for more than a dozen years, and each Finnish family should have 50 balalaikas and a cubic meter of 4 nested dolls each. Keep buying! Until now, some Finns receive from .... some of the population of Vyborg money of the USSR as a means of payment, and if the Finn is in the usual state for a Finnish tourist, then kerenki.

      Mind has gone beyond reason. I haven’t understood anything from what you wrote. This level of humor is beyond my power.
      Finns do not pick and eat mushrooms - why?
      There was a time very tightly communicated with the Finns, was friends with many. Of course I asked about mushrooms. Confidently told that they disdain, and consider them food for pigs. smile
      1. +1
        27 October 2015 13: 34
        Quote: Manul
        Of course I asked about mushrooms. Confidently told that they disdain

        the same thing I was told in Norway and Sweden) Well, a matter of taste, how warm.
        1. +2
          27 October 2015 13: 37
          Quote: Das Boot
          the same thing I was told in Norway and Sweden) Well, a matter of taste, how warm.

          And do not say. Well, how, one wonders, can one resist? Yes, under vodka .. Nothing these Finns and Scandinavians do not understand.
          1. +1
            27 October 2015 16: 45
            Quote: Manul
            . Well, how, one wonders, can I resist? Yes, under vodka .. Nothing these Finns and Scandinavians do not understand.

            agree) And the "quiet hunt"? And the cherished familiar mycelium in one place you know, which every year pleases with a harvest of whites? Eh, what is there ...
  • +2
    27 October 2015 12: 41
    The Finns of NATO need a stop signal like a hare. They had a special relationship with the USSR, now they are the same with Russia. All Peter and the LO there overstock, they make the economy. Due to the sanction, the Finns sincerely and deeply worry, they want to return everything as it was. Why would they join NATO in this situation?
  • 0
    27 October 2015 12: 56
    Strange somehow !!!! They entered the EU, but they don’t want to join NATO !!!! lol drinks
  • 0
    27 October 2015 13: 06
    Ukrainian attitude to NATO ... laughing
  • 0
    27 October 2015 13: 06
    Why the hell to them NATO? Extra money? Vultures can still be understood, the larger the blanket, the warmer. And the Chukhites need to think hard, otherwise they will not even have time to blink an eye, but already where it is not NECESSARY.
  • +1
    27 October 2015 13: 27
    Most Finns do not want to join NATO! You might think they will ask the people whether to join or not, this is all for profanity. After all, the state of Finland is not led by democrats elected by the people, but vassals from the European Union .... bully
  • 0
    27 October 2015 14: 36
    want or not want. if someone first blundered about the threat from the side. only with what?
  • 0
    27 October 2015 16: 22
    If dates become ENEMIES, they will be very good ENEMIES, almost equal to us.
  • 0
    27 October 2015 22: 08
    They don’t want to ... And who will ask them?
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