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Island of Crimea



I wanted to discuss one issue that arose after the return of the Crimea home, namely the transport connection of the peninsula with the mainland. As we all already understood, Ukraine led a quite predictable policy of blocking the “rebellious peninsula”. And then the question arose of building a bridge between Russia and the Crimea. In principle, everything is simple and logical, the idea of ​​building a bridge has been in the air for a very long time, irrespective of all the political upheavals of the struggle for control over the peninsula. Of course, the bridge was needed, and even during the Soviet era. Why it was not built then, another question.

But now the Crimea is part of Russia, the Ukrainians are beginning to cut water, electricity and rail links, and the question of the bridge has become very acute. Yes, a mixed railway and road bridge is needed, yes, it will take several years to build it. I met this explanation of why Russian business is not very actively investing in the Crimea: there is no bridge. There will be a bridge, then everything will turn out. I also had to repeatedly meet claims in the Western press that Russia's actions in the south-east of Ukraine are explained by the desire to build a “land bridge” to the Crimea.

You know, it's strange and surprising to hear all this. As you know, the cheapest transport - sea. Of course, in the case of the Crimea, the distances are small, and nevertheless. The Greeks, Byzantines and Genoese, as well as the Turks did not experience any problems with logistics. And their sea communications were much longer. That's what's funny: the Greeks on primitive sailboats, went more than a thousand kilometers (in a straight line!) And did not know the problems. But Russia 21 century with this big problem. And the Crimea at the side and in some strange way it sounds. The Genoese went even further. And everything was great too.

That is, the entirely “land” logic in this case clearly demonstrates its limitations. Even more surprising to me was Brzezinski’s statement that the Russian army in Syria was “isolated”. This is strange and paradoxical. The sea has always been an "open door", not a "end of the world", for marine nations this is understandable. A lot is rightly said about the development of the Russian Navy. A lot is being done. Yes, we need the navy, here Peter was right. But the development is somehow one-sided. Why create dozens of warships if there is no powerful trading fleet? For some reason, our open sea, especially the ocean, is perceived as a kind of hostile element, which can only be done on a cruiser and only for war.

Do not you think that this is very, very strange? If Russia is not able to provide maritime communications with the Crimea, then what kind of global role can our country be talking about? Then you have to sit in your “steppe” and not hang out anywhere. For example, there was no bridge or tunnel between France and England until the end of the 20 century. But no one complained about it, the trade went on in huge volumes. The same applies to Sweden and Denmark, for centuries the absence of a bridge has not prevented establishing contacts and trading, and even fighting. In general, the whole of the Mediterranean and all of Northern Europe have traded beautifully on the sea for centuries, nobody cried in the absence of “bridges”.

Or maybe I'm wrong, and Russia is a land country? No, for centuries the Russians, using the rivers first, then the seas, conducted trade. Therefore, the attempt to “cling to the bridge with“ teeth and nails ”looks very strange to me. Further, Crimea is a particularly important region from a military point of view, for example, we built a bridge. But it turns out, the entire defense of the Crimea will be supplied through a single super. Risky somehow. So no one does. It turns out another Roki tunnel. Destroy it, and the whole grouping of troops in a mousetrap.

And from a business point of view, imagine all logistics through one bridge. Vanguyu: at the entrance to the bridge, there will be megaparks on both sides. And megascandals. I understand that for professional sailors, all this is nothing more than a commonplace, only when it comes to supplying the Crimea, our merchant fleet is not mentioned at all. Bridge. Bridge as a national idea. Apparently, in Syria, too, it is necessary to build a bridge, at least a pontoon one. Otherwise, our group will be cut off. Waves of the gentle Mediterranean. Do not you think that this is nonsense? Hundreds of armies were shipped through it, and even before our era, but the Russians had problems. Some they are strange, these Russians. I inform you in confidence that the supply of a large group in the same Syria is much more profitable by sea than by land. Ask any Briton whose great-great-great-grandfather laid down his bones under Sevastopol.

The British Empire in the 19 century supplied its garrisons all over the planet, thousands and thousands of miles away, without any particular problems. Spanish galleons in the 16 century made regular flights to the Pacific Ocean and the Atlantic. Manila galleons - how much of this word merged for the heart of the seaman! But the Russians, having sent automatic stations to the Moon, Mars and Venus, cannot reach the Crimea. Syria is a terrible thing. Yes, when supplying Syria I had to use BOD, and this is somehow strange. BOD is not sharpened. Where, strictly speaking, the merchant fleet? Auxiliary fleet ships? No them. In vain I remembered them closer to the night.

Warships are used for supply in exceptional cases. Like the Japanese destroyers in supplying the garrison at Guadalcanal. In general, it is expensive and extremely inefficient. And Russia to supply Syria chases the BOD from the Pacific Ocean. It is unprofitable, and it is not clear why. The task of warships is quite different. For centuries, various nations came to the Crimea, as a rule, by sea. And only the Russians are bursting there over the bridge, like elks. After the Ukrainian patriots overlapped the isthmus, even the Ukrainian smugglers realized that the sea was it! He does not stop and do not pump out!

Speaking about the Black Sea Fleet, discuss the number of small rocket ships and submarines that will be put there. And this is great. But to own the sea means to have on it not only warships, but also a powerful merchant fleet, which provides for the transportation of goods and, if necessary, disembarks and supplies the landing force with everything necessary. This was understood by the Phoenicians, Greeks, Romans and Byzantines. The Dutch, the Spaniards and the British understood this no worse. The capacity of any road is limited. In the case of the sea, the limitation is usually the available tonnage and port capacity.

That is how the Greeks mastered the Mediterranean, founding dozens of colonies on its coast. That is how the British mastered the entire planet. And no one tried to build bridges to Ireland. What for? All European colonial empires were sea and kept on sea transport. All major commercial and industrial centers are coastal cities. In the worst case, the cities on the banks of the rivers. Water transport is cheaper. Even in China, it was that way. In the era before the railways, the movement of large cargo went, as a rule, only by water. By sea, river, canal, lake, but not by land.

The very creation of world empires: Portuguese, Spanish, French, British in the era before the railways became possible due to the presence of the sea. No other way. How else can you transport tens of thousands of tons of cargo? On country roads? On the winter road? And there is the Crimea, there is the sea, there are ports. But only land delivery methods are considered. Even in Britain itself, coal from the north of the island to the south was delivered by sea. Even in the era of the development of railways by sea is more profitable.

I understand that these things are fairly obvious, but when I read about the land blockade of Crimea by Ukraine on the isthmus, I feel uneasy. This is some kind of surrealism. The Black Sea does not freeze and all year round is available for navigation, in the Crimea there are a lot of excellent ports, what kind of blockade? Explain to me, idiot, how can I block the Crimea on the isthmus? No, if we talk about medieval nomads unfamiliar with the paddle and tiller, then yes. But for any modern nation cargo turnover with the Crimea is not a problem by sea. Do not be afraid of the waves of the sea, they are good.

In general, for a country that claims to be a leading player in world affairs, dancing with a tambourine around the bridge and the Kerch ferry is somehow undignified. Americans have 800 bases around the world, think for logistics. And no one builds bridges to Japan. That is, the advertised bridge to the Crimea is an important, necessary and useful project. But tie him all the logistics of the peninsula - this is absurd. And yes, Russia needs to develop maritime transport, otherwise it can be inconvenient.

I once imagined that the control over the Crimea would allow, if not to make the Black Sea a “Russian lake”, then at least make significant progress in this direction. What does the bridge have to do with it? You know the famous joke about the fact that for an optimist a glass is half full, and for a pessimist the same glass is half empty? So, for many authors of articles, Crimea is somehow isolated, and it has “terrible logistics”. If we consider the sea as an alien, hostile element (through the eyes of the medieval Nogai), then yes. And from the point of view of the Greek, Crimea has an excellent logistics, it is in the center of the navigable Black Sea, all of whose shores are densely populated. Do not look at the water world through the eyes of a frightened nomad.
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  1. Sasha75
    Sasha75 28 October 2015 05: 44 New
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    Something like that.
    1. Dembel77
      Dembel77 28 October 2015 08: 00 New
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      There are controversial points in the article, but this is not the point. The main idea is that (...) Russia needs to develop maritime transport, otherwise it may be inconvenient. (...). I agree on this one hundred percent. And not only can it turn out uncomfortable, but it already happened! I will give briefly dry data.
      The quantitative composition of the fleet of Russian shipping companies as of 01.01.2003 is characterized by table 1.2.
      Table 1.2
      Maritime transport fleet of Russian shipping companies
      Shipping company Balance fleet units Balance fleet thousand tons Total fleet controlled by the shipping company units
      Total fleet controlled by shipping company thousand tons

      Northern MP 18 66,9 63 270,8
      Baltic MP 97 215,4
      Novorossiysk MP 26 568,5 152 3327,4
      North Caspian 33 83,4
      Far Eastern MP 52 699,7 130 1028,5
      Sakhalin MP 13 52,0 62 246,3
      Kamchatka MP 3 16,1 31 51,9
      Primorsky MP 10 43,0 91 959,6
      Arctic 9 34,1 10 34,2
      Sovcomflot OJSC 86 4050,1 86 4050,1
      OAO Lukoil-Artik-Tanker 25
      Total 149 17,84,3 848 11593,2
      As can be seen from the table at the beginning of 2003, the largest number of the balance fleet was in the Far Eastern (52 units) and Novorossiysk (26 units) shipping companies. Next are the Northern (18 units) and the Murmansk Shipping Company (16 units). In total, 149 vessels operated under the Russian flag. The smallest number of domestic vessels was at the disposal of the Arctic and Kamchatka (3 units) shipping companies.
      The number of vessels operating under foreign flags at the beginning of 2003 amounted to 392 units. Moreover, the largest tonnage under the “convenient flag” is in Sovcomflot OJSC - 86 units and in the Novorossiysk Shipping Company - 49 units.
      To date, the Baltic Shipping Company no longer exists, there is not a single vessel on the balance of the Kamchatka Shipping Company, the fleet of the Sakhalin Shipping Company has decreased by 98%, Novorossiysk - by 79%, Northern and Primorsky - by 65% ​​.3
      In general, in recent years the number of vessels operating under the Russian flag has decreased by more than 4 times. Moreover, as already noted, no more than 150 vessels with a total deadweight of 1784,3 thousand tons remained in their composition (in 1992, the total deadweight was 10,59 million tons). These are mainly old vessels, the average age of which exceeded 20 years, while in most foreign countries it is 14 years.
      With such a composition of the fleet (and its replenishment and updating under the current economic conditions in the near future is unlikely), the competitiveness of Russian shipping companies in the international maritime shipping market becomes problematic, which negatively affects the mobilization readiness of the merchant fleet, and, ultimately, does not pose a real threat only economic, but also national security of the country.
      If someone wants to know more, please
      http://morez.ru/sostoyanie-flota-v-rossii/
      And the bridge to the Crimea is of course needed!
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 28 October 2015 09: 42 New
        +4
        Quote: Dembel 77
        And the bridge to the Crimea is of course needed!
        There will be a tunnel in parallel
        The construction of the tunnel passage along the bottom of the Kerch Strait is planned to be completed at the end of 2018.
        This was reported during a public hearing on the issue of regionalization of the terminal
        Construction work, which the authors of the project reported, has already been agreed with the authorities of the country, republic and the administration of Kerch, will begin in December 2015.
        The term of the first stage of construction is 22 months - after this time the tunnel in general will be almost ready.
        The general director of CJSC InzhTechInvestStroy Boris Zvereukov emphasized that the tunnel will not be a competitor for the bridge across the Kerch Strait.
        “We do not compete with the bridge in any way. The bridge is our everything, it is sacred. The tunnel performs several other functions. First of all, it will be the artery between the logistics centers, which will be located on both banks, ”he said.
        The length of the tunnel will be 14 kilometers 700 meters, in fact it will consist of two identical tunnels equipped with two-lane roads.
      2. 97110
        97110 28 October 2015 11: 12 New
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        Quote: Dembel 77
        The main idea is that (...) Russia needs to develop maritime transport,
        Vlad, I agree. Want to add. The USSR had not only the MMF maritime shipping companies, but also river ones in the RSFSR MRF system, Ukrrichflot and other Ministry of River Fleets in Moldova. This is hundreds of ships for which the Crimea entered the navigation area. In 1993, these hundreds of ships rushed into the sea for dollars. At about this time, through the mouth of one of the deputy prime ministers, it was said: "We do not need the fleet, everything we need will be delivered to us anyway." The Black Sea Fleet took care of contacts with the ChMP. It turned out that the ChMP is not ready to consider some kind of Black Sea Fleet, because their task is to make a profit, task two is to rebrand and make ends meet. And the Black Sea Fleet is intelligence, counterintelligence and Dzerzhinsky's great-grandchildren. Mobilization, mobstorage and general director not visiting without permission. And he became a member of the military council of the Black Sea Fleet Mostovoy I.F., sequentially cap-times, counter and vice-admiral, and in the world - general. Director of the Volga-Don Shipping Company (Rostov-on-Don). There was a state man in the pool. The MRF was no longer there, they were all renamed and tried to master non-tariff methods of managing the industry. Until they disappeared in the bowels of the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation. Sad story. In the era of wild capitalism, it could not be otherwise. And liberal capitalism disapproves of the Russian-flagged fleet. Because the tax code does not see the difference between condom sellers and petrels, marsoflots and butter-bags. They will talk about the second register and again start filling the budget. And another very important point - transportation by sea does not imply mega-projects with mega-investments. There, the proforma of charters are spelled out with the calculation of more coal reserves on the ship in terms of long-flame cardif. A nightmare for "respected" people. To steal crew salaries on delays is not enough to save money on a yacht.
    2. Das Boot
      Das Boot 28 October 2015 08: 08 New
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      Quote: Sasha75
      Something like that.

      not this way. The article is not about "Krymnash" (this is already clear), but about maritime logistics. Rather like this:
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 28 October 2015 13: 45 New
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        Quote: Das Boot
        not this way. The article is not about "Krymnash" (this is already clear), but about maritime logistics. Rather like this:

        Still a bridge in the background .. you grow up to Meehan and grow .. laughing
    3. Das Boot
      Das Boot 28 October 2015 08: 11 New
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      Or so (if about the bridge):
      1. Babr
        Babr 28 October 2015 08: 51 New
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        It seems that the authorities are not entirely sure that Krymnash. And they are in no hurry to wet a pretty penny there. It would be clear if Russia was a People’s or Socialist state. The last shirt would have been given away. But that’s not so. Under capitalism, your shirt is closer to the body.
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 28 October 2015 09: 22 New
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          Quote: Babr
          And not in a hurry dampen a pretty penny there.

          Why so. By the level of subsidies at the level of Chechnya. Business does not go to Crimea for known reasons (including those mentioned in the article). Long leverage investments in Crimea are very risky. State power cannot guarantee anything, except for a blue eye. Nobody said that everything will be hurt at the snap of the fingers of the GDP. Although - no, there were such cretins. "Krymnash" means objective difficulties and hard work, searching for ways of integration in conditions of international isolation and blockade, and not pretentious snot and patriotic pictures with bears.
          1. Babr
            Babr 28 October 2015 11: 19 New
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            Quote: Das Boot
            Long-shoulder investments in Crimea are very risky.

            "The zone of risky farming" So much for the "patriots" It's one thing to yell Krymnash.
            Another risk their own means, acquired overwork.
            1. Das Boot
              Das Boot 28 October 2015 12: 58 New
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              Quote: Babr
              So much for "patriots" It is one thing to yell Krymnash.
              Another risk your own funds

              Well, you still separate flies from cutlets. It's one thing chants, pictures with "polite" and Kiselevschina, and quite another - business. Investment risks and patriotism are things of several different orders. The businessmen were fully aware that the political and economic situation around Crimea promises few profits. I, of course, am not talking about "persons close" to Himself and, accordingly, to government orders and the federal budget. Roughly speaking - this, in essence, does not matter - they will build a bridge for state money, and they will start up a tunnel and cargo airships. They do not risk their own.
              1. Babr
                Babr 28 October 2015 13: 34 New
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                Quote: Das Boot
                Well, you still separate the flies from the cutlets

                Okay. Now is a relatively peaceful time. God forbid, a full-scale war will break out. If the pizdesman is now looking for profit, when people believe that Russia is not giving up, help in the formation of Crimea, and what will happen then? What will he change? This is a potential traitor And for 30 pieces of silver he will choke. Just do not tell me that this is not so. Money does not smell
                1. Das Boot
                  Das Boot 28 October 2015 16: 14 New
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                  Quote: Babr
                  Okay. Now is a relatively peaceful time. God forbid a full-scale war breaks out ... What will he change? This is a potential traitor And for 30 pieces of silver he will choke. Just do not tell me that this is not so.

                  Well, that way you can aggravate the situation before the planetary apocalypse. Why war? Yellowstone or space accident with Apophis. And force majeure only tempers laughing
                  Quote: Babr
                  Money does not smell
                  Maxima Vespasiana works for the entire vertical) And the fact that a serious business did not rush to the Crimea in a festive column accompanied by "Night Wolves" accompanied by "Night Wolves" - I personally do not see anything strange. I share your idea of ​​the world of cash as a whole) But, you know ... I will say a seditious thing: in this cool post-Soviet world, "patriotism" has also become a commodity. And people, by the way, hawala. Alas) I won't be surprised at the minuses)
          2. 97110
            97110 28 October 2015 11: 21 New
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            Quote: Das Boot
            Long-shoulder investments in Crimea are very risky.

            Even just freight to the Crimea can be dangerous for the shipowner. I touched on the topic - there is no fleet for transportation to the Crimea. They were named within a dozen steamboats and barges that seemed to work. It is necessary to create new companies, as with the air fleet, and with banks. And who will be? People involved in shipping are not ready to be sanctioned.
            1. perm23
              perm23 28 October 2015 12: 21 New
              +1
              How so dangerous. Well, Russia is who I am. state or pawn. How freight can be dangerous. The referendum passed, the composition adopted who decree us.
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 28 October 2015 12: 27 New
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                Quote: perm23
                The referendum passed, the composition adopted who decree us.

                No one recognized him

                Quote: perm23
                How freight can be dangerous

                Elementary, Watson .. Crimea under sanctions.

                Quote: perm23
                Well, Russia is who I am. state or pawn

                Russia is definitely a state. But not the only one on the planet, and therefore has to observe some .. precautions .. when working with "partners" yes

                Quote: 97110
                It is necessary to create new companies, as with the air fleet, and with banks

                97110 is absolutely right. You are absolutely not.

                Something like this..
                1. Das Boot
                  Das Boot 28 October 2015 13: 31 New
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                  Cat man null
                  I agree.
                  Quote: perm23
                  How freight can be dangerous.
                  imagine maybe.
                2. anti-Semite
                  anti-Semite 28 October 2015 13: 35 New
                  +5
                  The "world community" has not recognized the USSR for 20 years, so what? The UN did not recognize China, so what? no country in the world except Turkey has recognized Northern Cyprus, you can freak out as much as you like, but Crimea is Ours! since the time of Catherine
                  1. Das Boot
                    Das Boot 28 October 2015 17: 40 New
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                    Quote: anti-Semite
                    The "world community" has not recognized the USSR for 20 years, so what? The UN did not recognize China, so what? no country in the world except Turkey has recognized Northern Cyprus, you can freak out as much as you like, but Crimea is Ours! since the time of Catherine

                    calm down, bro, it's not about "Krymnash" / "Krymnenash"
                    Leave the historical peepsque alone, don’t worry anymore. Speech in a subject about logistics, actually ....
                    1. anti-Semite
                      anti-Semite 28 October 2015 18: 52 New
                      +1
                      in the subject there is a strange contrast between maritime transport and the bridge, although they are not mutually exclusive but complementary elements of logistics that, before history, a person who has forgotten the past has no future
              2. 97110
                97110 29 October 2015 10: 34 New
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                Quote: perm23
                who decree to us

                No one decree is for you, except for six dozen controlling organizations (the counting result for 2005, I don’t think it has changed much), who have the right to suspend, withdraw a license and perform other similar acts for the benefit of your enterprise, children and household members (including the wife and mother-in-law), and, most importantly, for any entrepreneur - CUSTOMER. Are you sure that your (own or rented) steamboat after entering the Crimean port will not receive a status similar to that of a steamboat after visiting the Israeli port? To whom it is not clear, ask what was waiting for such a ship in ports, for example, Libya. Here are the owners of ships operating on international traffic, and are afraid to enter the Crimea, so as not to lose the rest of the market. And in the Crimea to carry a little something. There is not much running time - the shoulder is short. And the expectation of cargo operations, cargo operations at ports of loading and unloading? Is there a reserve of capacity taking into account the unavoidable at sea and, especially, in the heads of decision-makers, accidents? Novorossiysk and Tuapse and without the Crimea do not rest. Yeisk, Azov, Taganrog, Rostov MARINE port? By the way, in the winter the Sea of ​​Azov usually freezes. It’s also shallow. Verkhovka will give it - the ships in Rostov and Azov will land on a shallow one. That remains for work in the Crimea, ships that at ballast crossings of 70 cm each lose ballast from Kerch to Rostov. And on a rusty hull, paint is only on the name of the ship. The rest dream of exporting and cabotage doesn’t appeal to them.
        2. Stone
          Stone 28 October 2015 10: 01 New
          +9
          The main problem of Crimea is accessibility for tourists, or rather, inaccessibility. I have a house near Evpatoria, in August I invited my sister. The flight cost her round-trip from Kirov - 47000 p. Alone! For the money he says you can fly to Cyprus, in addition to housing and flights, plus food. All the same, the Russians perceived Crimea as an economy version of the Russian south. Therefore, the bridge is not bypassed, so that there is accessibility for tourists by railway and auto transport, and this is probably 70 percent of all vacationers. You can’t take care of airplanes, it’s expensive and the airport in Simferopol simply worked in emergency mode in the summer. You need direct mass communication, without transfers (as now). Due to transplants, people abandon the Crimea, remain in the same Anapa. Maritime traffic is necessary, but mainly only for the transport of goods.
          Why now invest in the travel industry (construction and reconstruction of new hotels) if those that are built are 30% full on average. There will be a bridge, there will be tourists, there will be investments.

          P.S. the week I arrived from Crimea, there aren’t any problems with products and other goods, all the stores are littered with products mainly from the Russian Prospect. There is a problem if you have to wait for something to order, plus two days, maybe longer due to storms in the Kerch Strait. Well, the prices are too big, a little more expensive than the average for Russia.
          1. Das Boot
            Das Boot 28 October 2015 10: 19 New
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            Quote: Sten
            The main problem of Crimea is accessibility for tourists, or rather, inaccessibility.

            The tourism vector is yes, but with one domestic tourism this indicator
            Quote: Sten
            on 30%
            not to raise to the desired level, even provided that Crimea in view of the prevailing economic realities, and pulled over yesterday's lovers of Egypt-Turkey. Although, of course, you know better on the spot - I don’t go to Crimea and do not plan, I should not draw conclusions)
      2. alexbg2
        alexbg2 28 October 2015 09: 08 New
        +6
        The author clearly mixed in a bunch of "... people, horses ...". Of course, if we talk about the fleet in general, he is right, and if in relation to Crimea, then some kind of nonsense, especially about the cost of transportation. In the case of Murmansk-Pevek, for example, there is no alternative to sea transportation, but Crimea .... Let him first prove to the Yankees that to connect the mainland with a bridge, say, with Long Island.
        .... In general, for a state that claims to have a leading role in world affairs, dancing with a tambourine around the bridge and the Kerch crossing is somehow not solid .....

        And what is their Brooklyn Bridge (and the rest in this case) -
        ... That is, the entirely "land" logic in this case clearly demonstrates its limitations ...
        1. Vend
          Vend 28 October 2015 09: 50 New
          +6
          The Greeks, Byzantines and Genoese, as well as the Turks, did not experience any problems with logistics.

          In those days, there was a different turnover, and there weren’t so many tourists. So the point is not in land logic, but in elementary mathematics. The capacity of ferries and open land routes varies significantly. In favor of the land. If this were not so, then around the world would not connect important island points using bridges.
          1. max702
            max702 28 October 2015 10: 42 New
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            The author is simply incompetent in the field of logistics! Sea transport is profitable for long distances! It is then that loading / unloading operations are fought off, but when you load something onto a ship and then after 20 km unload it, there can be no benefit! Imagine it is necessary to screw up some port infrastructure with the volume of cargo that goes in this direction, and all this for the sake of some 20 km! Here the bridge will eliminate this problem at once, of course, for a safety net, a well-established ferry crossing will not hurt, but just for safety net, and to create competition. On the mind it is necessary of course to build a tunnel and money in the country IS! So let me be in a material embodiment in the form of a tunnel, and not in the form of virtual zeros or government obligations of the "partner" countries.
            1. Olezhek
              28 October 2015 10: 48 New
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              Here the bridge at once will eliminate this problem, of course, for security, the WELL ferry crossing does not hurt, but for safety net


              Vanguyu - sooner or later the bridge will have to be repaired ... what then?
              It is interesting to see the comparative calculations: the bridge capacity and the needs of the Crimea in cargo / passenger transportation, for the future in 20 years.
              1. alexbg2
                alexbg2 28 October 2015 13: 17 New
                +1
                Quote: Olezhek
                Vanguyu - sooner or later the bridge will have to be repaired ... what then?

                Wangyu - sooner or later we will all die .... why eat and drink?
              2. Varyag_1973
                Varyag_1973 28 October 2015 13: 34 New
                +1
                And I’m wanging that in 20 years, we will have a land connection with Crimea!
              3. Das Boot
                Das Boot 28 October 2015 18: 15 New
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                Quote: Olezhek
                Vanguyu - sooner or later the bridge will have to be repaired ... what then?

                it's funny ...
                Uhh ... more vanguay ... vanguay me ... vanguay me to Die Brücke ...
              4. 97110
                97110 29 October 2015 10: 54 New
                +1
                Quote: Olezhek
                Wangyu -

                A classmate wrote a diploma in freight for tanker transportation. wrote. And the Arab woman clashed with the Jews. And the Suez closed. And the cargo flow went around Africa. With completely different freight and on completely different ships. I had to urgently write a new diploma. We’ll vangue that Ukro-Americans will disappear from the face of New Russia and the bridge can be repaired as long as you like. Or we’ll vangue that ISIS will smash all resorts in Egypt and Turkey in half, the ruble will fall so that all tourists from Russia and the rest of the world go to Crimea and the bridge will not withstand traffic density and collapse. What else to cheat?
                1. Olezhek
                  29 October 2015 11: 11 New
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                  97110 (2)
                  A classmate wrote a diploma in tanker freight. wrote. And the Arabcha clashed with the Jews. And Suez closed. What else to do?


                  I would be laying down for the worst option.
                  Just so, just in case.
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 28 October 2015 13: 02 New
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            The whole question is that in the Russian Federation there are now neither merchant nor passenger fleets, and what is most sad: no slightest prerequisites for their appearance are visible.
            There weren’t even any ferries in the Russian Federation; at the moment, Greek ferries built in the early 90s, with hastily shaded names, are used.
            After joining, Crimea became an expensive pleasure for vacationers, and getting to the peninsula became hellish torments.
            The number of tourists has decreased significantly. The beaches of the South Coast were practically empty in summer, some "smart" heads thought of repairing the road leading from Kerch to the South Coast in the midst of the season. Downtime in traffic jams during reverse movement was up to 10 (!!!!!) hours!
            This year my trip to Crimea became the 14th in a row and I can say that Crimea has changed a lot. Prices have skyrocketed for everything, without exception, taxi drivers in Kerch ask 10-500 rubles for a 600-kilometer route, and when asked why it is so expensive, they answer "if it's expensive, stay at home", from the Crimeans I heard this for the first time in my life!
            It is impossible to cash out plastic cards in Crimea, people specially traveled by ferry to the mainland in order to withdraw funds from "plastic".
            In general, among the vacationers, when discussing the rest, two topics were traced:
            1. When kaklah Crimea was more ours than now
            2. Before the construction of the bridge in the Crimea, we will no longer go.

            If you suddenly decide to go on vacation to the Crimea I say right away, only by plane! But keep in mind a ticket there will be cheaper than back in August you could fly there for 7 thousand, and back 10-12 thousand (????).
            It’s cheaper by train, but the journey takes about 40 hours from Kerch to Moscow via Krasnodar.
            The cheapest and fastest way to get to the Crimea is by bus from Moscow, but with hell, it’s hell!
            It’s clear that the sun and the sea neutralize many inconveniences, but our family adheres to the majority opinion, we won’t go to the construction of the bridge to the Crimea ....
          3. Olezhek
            28 October 2015 15: 06 New
            0
            In those days there was another trade, and there were not so many tourists.


            And as if suddenly there was a completely different technical level of shipbuilding ... request
            1. 97110
              97110 29 October 2015 11: 03 New
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              Quote: Olezhek
              And as if suddenly there was a completely different technical level of shipbuilding ...

              And shipbuilding was. In Russia. And not only in Korea and, strangestly, in France. Now in Russia there is a shipbuilding industry. SHIPBUILDING no. Prove the opposite - I will apologize with pleasure. While shipbuilding lives on the same tax laws as condom sellers, it (shipbuilding) will not. In Russia. In China - will be.
              1. Olezhek
                29 October 2015 11: 15 New
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                And not only in Korea and, the strangest, in France. Now in Russia there is a ship. SHIP BUILDING NO. Prove the opposite


                Now in developed countries there is a very different level of shipbuilding, compared to what it was, at least 150 years ago.
                The fact that in the Russian Federation this is not the problem of the Russian Federation, and not modern shipbuilding ...
  2. igorra
    igorra 28 October 2015 05: 51 New
    0
    As the author neatly called us barbarians in comparison with the British and Americans. It turns out that we can’t build ships, and we can’t go where they need to, but didn’t think about the shoulder of the flight from the Krasnodar Territory to the Crimea, it is clearly shorter than from Scotland to England. Convince me that two transhipments are cheaper than a direct flight from Rostov to Don. But the facts, arguments, figures above the roof, that’s the mishandled Cossacks.
    1. Olezhek
      28 October 2015 08: 13 New
      +1
      I did not think about the flight from Krasnodar Region to Crimea, it is clearly shorter than from Scotland to England. Convince me that two overloads are cheaper than direct flights from Rostov-on-Don


      Well, it happened that the bridge that was built was damaged, accidentally or deliberately, then the Crimea will be cut off? And the Crimean group of troops will be in a mousetrap? request
      NATO saboteurs look at you with interest ...
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 28 October 2015 09: 06 New
        -1
        Quote: Olezhek
        NATO saboteurs look at you with interest ...

        And migrants in Calais are watching you with interest ...
        1. jjj
          jjj 28 October 2015 10: 17 New
          +4
          Quote: igorra
          Convince me that two transhipments are cheaper than a direct flight from Rostov to Don

          River-sea vessels on inland waterways and the Sea of ​​Azov can be delivered without transshipment even from St. Petersburg, even from white-stone
      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 28 October 2015 11: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Olezhek
        NATO saboteurs look at you with interest ...

        Orderlies, orderlies, in the 6th ward ... wassat
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 28 October 2015 19: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Orderlies, orderlies, in the 6th ward ...

          I see - minus laughing ok, the orderlies are ok) Shi3opatrio - welcome)
    2. andj61
      andj61 28 October 2015 08: 14 New
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      Quote: igorra
      It turns out that we can’t build ships, and we can’t go where they need to, but didn’t think about the shoulder of the flight from the Krasnodar Territory to the Crimea, it is clearly shorter than from Scotland to England. Convince me that two transhipments are cheaper than a direct flight from Rostov to Don.

      And where does the shoulder? From time immemorial, sea and river transportations are much cheaper than land transport, and even somewhat cheaper than rail transport. Almost until the end of the 20th century, ALL of the mainland’s communication with Britain was carried out by sea - and wow so carried out. In Russia, even before the middle of the 20th century, the main transportation of goods was also along rivers - mainly - seas. Our ports on the Caucasian coast - and Novorossiysk, and Tuapse, and even - to some extent - Port Caucasus are almost year-round . Yes - the weather makes its contribution - but it can provide cargo communication with the peninsula. Just recently, other ways of transporting goods have begun to develop more actively - first in the 20th century by rail, and then, in the 21st century, by road. But you should not forget about sea transportation to the Crimea - this is an excellent alternative to the bridge - at least until its commissioning.
      1. kagorta
        kagorta 28 October 2015 08: 34 New
        +2
        Only not in the USSR. Since starting in the 1970s, river transport is more expensive than rail. In the 90s by 40%, now by 25%.
    3. Das Boot
      Das Boot 28 October 2015 08: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: igorra
      As the author neatly called us barbarians in comparison with the British and Americans.

      yeah, and gently chided the USSR, which did not bother, you know, to build a bridge.
      It’s strange that he didn’t remember King Fahd’s Bridge - why can’t we be reproached by the Saudis before heaps? What does it mean, this is not the Öresund bridge or the Eurotunnel, it was built at a time when the USSR was alive ....
    4. TOZ-34
      TOZ-34 28 October 2015 08: 59 New
      +4
      We can build, but for now, mainly ships. When will the ships begin to be built? After all, ships sail under a "convenient" flag, even under the Mongolian one (great sea power?).
      And the author reminds that if you do not stifle shipbuilding and shipowners and related industries, then Russia can become a maritime power again. In the meantime, all the construction of ships takes place in spite of, not thanks. A simple example is that not a single ship built by Russian factories is built on time. Imperfections, flaws. Finns or Germans - at least buy tickets in advance. Day to day. And the most important excuses, as with the harvest. Or "we have a lot of orders, there are not enough workers, what do you want?" Or "there are few orders, there are not enough workers, what do you want?"
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 28 October 2015 09: 08 New
        0
        Quote: TOZ-34
        We can build, but for now, basically - ships. And when vessels start to be built?

        Explain the idea.

        and, therefore, did not learn how to build bridges?
    5. TOZ-34
      TOZ-34 28 October 2015 08: 59 New
      +2
      We can build, but for now, mainly ships. When will the ships begin to be built? After all, ships sail under a "convenient" flag, even under the Mongolian one (great sea power?).
      And the author reminds that if you do not stifle shipbuilding and shipowners and related industries, then Russia can become a maritime power again. In the meantime, all the construction of ships takes place in spite of, not thanks. A simple example is that not a single ship built by Russian factories is built on time. Imperfections, flaws. Finns or Germans - at least buy tickets in advance. Day to day. And the most important excuses, as with the harvest. Or "we have a lot of orders, there are not enough workers, what do you want?" Or "there are few orders, there are not enough workers, what do you want?"
    6. crumb
      crumb 28 October 2015 09: 06 New
      +3
      but what is the author wrong? Do you need to develop a merchant fleet? or that the ancient Greeks could not provide their colonies with galleys? or that ONE bridge is a panacea for the whole Crimea?
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 28 October 2015 09: 29 New
        +1
        Quote: croche
        but what is the author wrong? Do you need to develop a merchant fleet?

        definitely necessary. In this part, no one argues with him. Why lace about the Danes and the English ?? This is pure cheap literature. I started to write about logistics - do without this husk, emphasize multi-vector and alternatives. And then crying about the "mousetrap" is, excuse me, amateurish delirium.
        1. Olezhek
          28 October 2015 10: 18 New
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          And then crying about the "mousetrap" is, excuse me, amateurish delirium.


          As soon as we begin to build a bridge, a tunnel, the relevant structures of the US Navy will begin to work out options for isolating the Crimean theater of operations.
          Do you doubt it?
          Just for a second?
          1. Das Boot
            Das Boot 28 October 2015 10: 42 New
            +2
            Quote: Olezhek
            Do you doubt it?
            Just for a second?

            Yes, something in a cold sweat I do not wake up. An interesting development of events is drawn: horseradish -
            Quote: Olezhek
            US Navy related structures
            destroyed the bridge ... flooded the tunnel ... the war is in full swing ... But the merchant navy is still heroically puffing because
            Quote: Olezhek
            US Navy related structures
            they do not pay attention to him.
            If we are keen on historical analogies, then the "mousetrap" was more likely West Berlin in 1948-49, but the USAF solved this problem with the famous Air Bridge. Fiction and conspiracy theories. Logistics problems in Crimea should be solved systematically, and not by choosing the fleet as a priority.
            1. Olezhek
              28 October 2015 10: 46 New
              -2
              destroyed the bridge ... flooded the tunnel ... the war is in full swing ... But the merchant navy is still heroically puffing because


              Because the bridge is ONE object, the destruction of which completely changes the strategic situation on the Black Sea.
              And chasing the kazhnya scow - this is not serious
              1. Das Boot
                Das Boot 28 October 2015 11: 11 New
                +1
                Quote: Olezhek
                Because the bridge is ONE object, the destruction of which completely changes the strategic situation on the Black Sea.

                in what way? Will you refer to the experience of the Crimean War again?
        2. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 28 October 2015 11: 16 New
          0
          Quote: Das Boot
          And then crying about the "mousetrap" is, excuse me, amateurish delirium.

          In case of war, during the day, the corridor from the isthmus’s side will be cleared, along with Mariupol, etc. .. right up to our borders, so that the author in vain wanders off ..
          1. Olezhek
            28 October 2015 11: 48 New
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            In the event of war, during the course of the day, the corridor on the side of the isthmus will be cleansed, along with Mariupol, etc. .. up to our borders


            belay belay
            You know this will be an attack on a sovereign Ukraine ...
            Komrad, we are peaceful people ...
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 28 October 2015 11: 54 New
              +2
              Quote: Olezhek
              You know this will be an attack on a sovereign Ukraine ...

              Olezhek I wrote - in case of war, and there is no longer sentiment about sovereignty there will be purely military logistics .. Approximately how Stalin pushed the border from Leningrad before the Second World War
            2. Das Boot
              Das Boot 28 October 2015 13: 29 New
              0
              Quote: Olezhek
              Komrad, we are peaceful people ...

              that is, we are so peaceful that the destruction of the U.S. Navy (!) of the bridge / tunnel, described by you, above, etc. will be left by us without reaction? In general, it’s fun to read fantasies that in the 21st century the demolition of one bridge
              Quote: Olezhek
              completely changes the strategic situation in the Black Sea.
              1. Olezhek
                28 October 2015 15: 09 New
                0
                that the destruction of the US Navy (!) of the bridge / tunnel, etc., that you depict above. will we leave without reaction?


                What caused the death of the battleship Novorossiysk? (this is so, for example)
                There are also "coincidences" ...
                1. Das Boot
                  Das Boot 28 October 2015 16: 57 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Olezhek
                  What caused the death of the battleship Novorossiysk? (this is so, for example)

                  facepalm ...
                  Sorry, but after that I will not name your article otherwise than as a network conspiracy therapist ... An article, of course, in a firebox. Goodbye ... Sorry for the harshness again.
    7. ver_
      ver_ 29 October 2015 04: 04 New
      0
      ... barbarians - Slavic peoples - nothing more ...
  3. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 28 October 2015 06: 00 New
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    The author is right. Shopping phot collapsed. Like sea and river. We decided to stupidly write off the amers and are developing a car connection. But the truth with the roads is not always all right. Although the bridge to Crimea is needed.
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 28 October 2015 07: 10 New
      16
      Oh, the author is disingenuous and wang megaporks of the type will be, but after all, I probably "forgot" that when the sea is stormy, the ferries do not run, the logistics freezes. The bridge to Crimea is not only not bypassed, it is needed the sooner, the better, as soon as the bridge is opened and there will be electricity supply, svidomye can forget about any discounts, blockades, they just have to jump higher and higher, but the river and coastal fleet also needs to be developed.
      1. crumb
        crumb 28 October 2015 09: 08 New
        0
        yeah on the Black Sea storm season 350 days a year?
    2. Enot-poloskun
      Enot-poloskun 28 October 2015 07: 15 New
      +9
      Another plus from the merchant fleet, not specified in the article.

      You can put "Caliber" in a sea container ... Or maybe something else ...

      Therefore - the more merchant ships - the better!
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 28 October 2015 07: 50 New
      10
      Quote: Kos_kalinki9
      Shopping ph collapsed


      Let’s frankly, the Fleet has been plundered ALL over the past quarter century, from the military (Varangian sold for needles along with dozens of other ships of the former Navy), the merchant fleet is stolen along with the largest shipping companies in the world, the tanker fleet is stolen, the fishing fleet is stolen, ALL ports and port are privatized facilities. It was popular - it became stolen!
      Do you think that the price of the lousy pink salmon picked up on the river during the spawning season is really 200 rubles?
      No, it is forbidden to put caviar fish into the food circulation, it is only allowed to make fish meal from it.
      Even with EBNut, under Minister Kondratenko, there was an order to equip ALL fishing vessels with GPC navigators and tracked the coordinates of the vessel in the oceans in real time in order to avoid smuggling - and where is all this?
      No, thieves continue to steer in Russia, and no one can (and does not want to!) Put a barrier to this robbery.
      1. BMW
        BMW 28 October 2015 09: 09 New
        +4
        Quote: hydrox
        The fleet has been plundered EVERYTHING for a quarter of a century,

        Speak to the end, i.e. destroyed. There are crumbs that do not allow you to just stand up to the supply.
        Quote: hydrox
        All ports and port facilities have been privatized.

        The cost of transshipment in the port is sky-high, therefore it is more expensive to carry by sea than by land.
        Quote: hydrox
        Do you think that the price of the lousy pink salmon picked up on the river during the spawning season is really 200 rubles?

        Of course not, but she didn’t just pick it up.
        Buy a quota.
        Hire people, buy equipment and gear, supplies and deliver, in half the cases, to hell with pies, where there are no roads.
        Process and freeze.
        Bring to the transhipment refrigerator, where you sell it to an intermediary.
        This is very difficult, especially in Kamchatka, where from the place of extraction to processing it is sometimes necessary to transport over 100 kilometers through rivers, and processed and frozen up to transshipment up to 300 km and more.
        Quote: hydrox
        No, it is forbidden to put caviar fish into the food circulation, it is only allowed to make fish meal from it.

        Don't crap. Red flour turns out to be oily, and the quality is lower than that of white fish. The cost of production is two times higher, and the grade is lower, almost no one wants to do it, and the waste goes to a landfill. fool
        1. BMW
          BMW 28 October 2015 15: 24 New
          0
          Continued ...
          Quote: hydrox
          Even with EBNut, under Minister Kondratenko, there was an order to equip ALL fishing vessels with GPC navigators and tracked the coordinates of the vessel in the oceans in real time in order to avoid smuggling - and where is all this?

          You're not right. This is a system for the automatic positioning of ships, according to the international convention SOLAS 74/88, this system should be equipped with all vessels with a capacity of more than 300 r.tons, according to the resolutions of the IMO (international maritime organization), the ISM Code (international convention on safety management) and other international documents, this system should be equipped with all vessels engaged in commercial activities and supervised by the national classification society, we have the Russian Maritime Register of Shipping.
      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 28 October 2015 11: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: hydrox
        No, it is forbidden to put caviar fish into the food circulation, it is only allowed to make fish meal from it.

        I agree with you almost completely, except for this point - spawning occurs on such fish, they are also called cadaveric, changes, a skin of gray-yellow color with dark stripes, meat is white and without taste, a person will only eat from a big hunger .. So You will see such a chum salmon, pink salmon, coho salmon in a supermarket, etc. Do not take it .. you go to fool
        1. BMW
          BMW 28 October 2015 15: 43 New
          0
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          spawning occurs on such fish; they are also called cadaveric, changes, a skin of gray-yellow color with dark stripes, white meat and tasteless

          Nikolay, you described a simple rotten.
          The depravity of red fish is easily determined by the ease of separation of bones from meat. If you bend or break the fish with your hands and the bones will separate from the meat yourself, it means it has been damaged or stored with violations (defrosting more than two times), while it will have a normal color and smell.
          What you described, it is necessary to call the Rospotrebnadzor and other bodies, they will cover it right away.
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    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 28 October 2015 06: 19 New
      20
      I'm not only talking about Crimea. I live in the Volga town. There used to be a cargo port. Gave a bunch of jobs. Now he is gone. From the word at all.
      On the beautiful Meteor, he could get to Kostroma in 50 minutes. Now by car, a detour, well, almost two hours. Where is the logic????
      1. andj61
        andj61 28 October 2015 08: 18 New
        +4
        Quote: Kos_kalinki9
        Where is the logic????

        There is no logic at all! Everywhere and always in the world, river and sea transport is the most profitable and cheapest form of both passenger and cargo traffic. The Volga was generally the main transport artery of the country. And now what - a tourniquet was applied to the artery? And they are not building new ships, and sold the old ones in the 90s, and they stole port infrastructure.
        1. science fiction writer
          science fiction writer 28 October 2015 09: 00 New
          +4
          I live in the Volga town. There used to be a cargo port. Gave a bunch of jobs. Now he is gone. From the word at all.
          On the beautiful Meteor, he could get to Kostroma in 50 minutes. Now by car, a detour, well, almost two hours. Where is the logic????

          The river fleet has always had a recoupment problem and it was dated, since the seasonal mode of transport, after the collapse of the USSR, was left to its own devices, that is, it didn’t burn out for self-sufficiency, after which they decided to make micro-subsidies again, but the patient is already in a coma since the wear and tear composition 75-80%,
          serious state investments are needed. And business in this sector does not want to invest because the cream is not very greasy.
          I am the captain of the vessel, I know the problem from the inside, take my word for it.
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        3. Vik66
          Vik66 28 October 2015 11: 52 New
          0
          I live in N. Novgorod.
          So - the river port in NN is closed, and a stadium with 40 seats for the 000 World Cup is being built in its place (!!!) crying
          1. Olezhek
            28 October 2015 11: 57 New
            0
            So - the river port in NN is closed, and in its place the stadium is being built on 40 000 seats

            Tse Peremoga!

            I will build a harem on 400 seats, there will be palm trees, fountains, peacocks ... lol
          2. gispanec
            gispanec 28 October 2015 15: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: Vik66
            I live in N. Novgorod.
            So - the river port in NN is closed

            so ... I also live in N Novgorod and the port on Strelka is not closed, but transferred to a new place ..... besides ... it was a cargo port, and there are 3 of them in our city .. ..and they’re doing the right thing ... and then in the center of the city there are terrible cranes and barges with bulk ... the road is always broken, and the port will be on the left side of the Volga 500-800 meters above the Borsky Bridge ...
    2. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 28 October 2015 08: 36 New
      0
      Something you have planned for Ukraine a lot ... Half of the yellow in her eyes is enough!
    3. crumb
      crumb 28 October 2015 09: 09 New
      +2
      stupid and off topic sad
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 28 October 2015 09: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: croche
        stupid and off topic sad

        Yes, let the wrinkles scratch where it itches.
  5. papont64
    papont64 28 October 2015 06: 03 New
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    The union had a huge transport fleet. But Russia has problems with this. I live in Vladivostok. At the raid, mainly foreign bulk carriers and container ships. Unfortunately, we are very poorly developing our merchant fleet. There is practically no fresh replenishment, but I would really like to.
    1. Armored optimist
      Armored optimist 28 October 2015 07: 48 New
      +2
      We need to make the Russian flag "comfortable". Then the fleet in six months will be larger than in Liberia.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 October 2015 06: 13 New
    13
    I believe that both the ferry and merchant fleets in the Black Sea are now developing "at a faster pace." And now, according to the author, life in Crimea has stopped and everyone is waiting for the bridge? Not at all. Most of those who want to develop relations with Crimea do not "notice" problems with logistics.
    IMHO - the problem is in the sanctions. Major players are afraid to develop business in Crimea, because striped friends can cause trouble anywhere in the world except Russia. And small ones, focused only on the domestic market, are too tough to build ships. Give him ready-made logistics.
    They are the ones who are waiting for the bridge. And with the merchant fleet in Russia it is really a disaster. Yes, and there was something with insurance and sanctions on ships entering the Crimea. Like all other ports of the world and ... the Black Sea will be closed for them! So the bridge is not only a "sacred symbol"! The bridge is a signal that the blockade has failed, and the sanctions are pointless and to continue them is to let capital from Southeast Asia into Crimea, instead of the European one.
  7. Zomanus
    Zomanus 28 October 2015 06: 17 New
    +5
    Also from Vladivostok.
    Shipping from China / Korea is reduced,
    carriers go bankrupt, cut flights.
    At the expense of the merchant fleet.
    And where did he come from. when the Soviet sold out
    or flown, shipyards are busy with military orders.
    What about the sea route to Crimea, the author is probably not aware of the peculiarities of the Crimean climate.
    And then, I don’t think that shipping / unloading infrastructure for the planned volumes will be cheaper to create.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 28 October 2015 09: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Zomanus
      And then, I don’t think that shipping / unloading infrastructure for the planned volumes will be cheaper to create.

      Ek was enough))) author of a fiction writer and amateur. He has no time for infrastructure. But beautiful metaphors and analogies ...
    2. Vik66
      Vik66 28 October 2015 11: 56 New
      0
      Again, the Navashinsky shipyard near Nizhny Novgorod regularly rivets tankers and bulk carriers RO-RO, only they all go to foreign customers!
      1. Olezhek
        28 October 2015 11: 58 New
        0
        only they all leave for foreign customers!


        And you do not envy - they need more ..
      2. gispanec
        gispanec 28 October 2015 15: 16 New
        0
        Quote: Vik66
        Again, the Navashinsky shipyard near Nizhny Novgorod regularly rivets tankers and bulk carriers

        Red Sormovo rivets and more in quantity and tonnage ..
  8. dukalis
    dukalis 28 October 2015 06: 17 New
    +4
    Quote: Sasha75
    Something like that.

    Hehehe and the bear is on the blockades!)))
  9. Geophizik
    Geophizik 28 October 2015 06: 25 New
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    The author is largely right. The history of Russia is the history of the struggle for access to the seas, which makes it possible to develop at an accelerated pace. Unfortunately, we did not learn how to use the existing potential - or were we not given? Even the inland waterways in the form of the world's largest river network are used little by crane and this is against the background of an order of magnitude more expensive road transport. Involuntarily, the question arises of deliberately slowing down the development of Russia, which is primarily to blame for the supporters and adherents of new-fangled economic theories, who are pushing their absurd ideas hard despite the obvious facts, because real power is still concentrated in their hands. That is why we see scams that are fantastic in scale and theft, but it seems that there are no guilty parties, as there is practically no real multi-level control over the actions of power structures.
  10. Glock
    Glock 28 October 2015 06: 44 New
    +2
    Here is a good option and more protected from bombing if that
    1. Stone
      Stone 28 October 2015 10: 05 New
      0
      Undermining, for example, GAZelles with explosives in the middle of the tunnel at the height of the tourist season, what will lead to? And on the bridge? Therefore, they chose a bridge.
      1. jjj
        jjj 28 October 2015 10: 20 New
        0
        In the area of ​​Golubitskaya the other day a mud volcano scored from under the water. Washed a small island. Over time, the waves will wash it off. But such processes are constant here
  11. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 28 October 2015 06: 48 New
    +2
    Don't need these cheap business excuses about the road to Crimea. Our most ultra patriotic business does not go to Crimea for one reason only. Ask Sberbank .. for what. I'm talking about a business of medium and large hands. And the sea merchant fleet ... no need to kick the prices ... we need to develop it ... our ... domestic ... and not wait ... that in 2020 "communism" will come to us ... and we will all live happily.
  12. Marconi41
    Marconi41 28 October 2015 06: 51 New
    11
    A little emotionally, but still true. Not so long ago, a bunch of Meteors flew across the Black Sea. And where are they now? Merchant fleet is generally a sore subject of our country. Very few merchant ships are being built, but even the USSR bought ships from Finland, Poland, and Norway. I think that now the Finns would not refuse us if their capacities are not enough. And for this you need to create enterprises with state share. participation, otherwise all purchased vessels will again leave under convenient flags. It got ridiculous, we rent ferries from Greece! Laughter and only ...
  13. Wolka
    Wolka 28 October 2015 07: 01 New
    +1
    for Russia, logistics is a young science, the time will come and Russia will learn this art, including polishing the Crimean logistics, those who do not work are not mistaken ...
    1. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx 28 October 2015 07: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Volka
      for Russia logistics is a young science

      I think you are wrong.
      Logistics as a science has always been without it. IN PRINCIPLE, more or less complex projects are impossible. And there were many such projects in Russia, and even more so in the USSR.
      Another thing is that the very word logistics was not in use.

      Logistics can be considered as strategic management of material flows in the supply process: procurement, transportation, sale and storage of materials, parts and finished inventory (equipment and other). The concept also includes the management of relevant information flows, as well as financial flows. Logistics is aimed at optimizing costs and streamlining the production, marketing and related services both within a single enterprise and for a group of enterprises. (C)
  14. EvgNik
    EvgNik 28 October 2015 07: 03 New
    +8
    50 to 50%. We need both a bridge and a fleet. We have a complete failure with the fleet after perestroika. And not only with the sea, but also the river. Previously, "Rockets" and "Komets" walked along the Kama (and not only along it). Getting to the desired point was not only convenient and fast, but also pleasant - a walk on the water, what could be better. And now? Cars, on bad, dusty roads - far from ice.
    1. samarin1969
      samarin1969 28 October 2015 07: 19 New
      +9
      The "More" plant, which has been making Komets and Rockets for the second year, is "licensed" and "registered" ... officials will ditch any idea without a rollback ...
  15. perm23
    perm23 28 October 2015 07: 06 New
    +2
    The problem is also a big problem. Yes, the merchant fleet that river, that sea. Some yachts, damn it, some people tuned themselves. The thing is different. We cannot take up everything at once, not those leaders are in power. NOT those. we cannot build a bridge either 0 it is needed and the fleet should be developed and the army developed. Everything was stolen at one time. The truth is that big business is afraid of sanctions if it gets into the Crimea. These are all problems and together do not give a normal development. The same energy bridge slowed down how much time and now our oligarchs are slowing down. Business does not need this; they need to make a profit today with minimal costs. So they do not need to build a fleet. But the state, the government - does not want or cannot put pressure on business. He only thinks about how to help the business, what kind of concessions, what they wanted. And the merchant fleet is needed, oh, how it is needed. Skolko before the ships walked along the Kama, and now.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 28 October 2015 08: 13 New
      0
      Quote: perm23
      Some yachts, damn it, some people set themselves up

      The fact of the matter is that yachts! This is private property for private individuals, and the people cannot, there is nothing for you to do on the water. Waterways are cheap, you won’t get much money for them. Whether business is expensive! It is necessary to build, it is necessary to repair - it’s how much you can cut yourself! Moreover, the income is constant - we do not live in the south, there is no need to repair the roads there for 25-30 years.
      1. kagorta
        kagorta 28 October 2015 11: 39 New
        +1
        The reasoning of the amateur laughing Here the dough must be no less than the bottom-deep work (it is harder to measure than the road), airlock, ports and so on.

        In fact, the USSR, chasing cargo volumes and ton-kilometers, built the world's largest river ships and tuned rivers for them (deepened, expanded and straightened), arguing that river transport is the most economical, most environmentally friendly and most safe mode of transport. It is difficult to argue with the economy, environmental friendliness and safety of river transport. Throughout the world, thanks to these characteristics, river transport is in demand and is developing rapidly. In some countries, they transport up to 15% of the total volume of goods transported. But as for Russia, the situation here is completely different. Building the largest river fleet in the world, driving rivers and canals under it and spending huge amounts of money, they overlooked the issue of transportation costs, as a result of which a significant part of the cargo flows belonging to river transport turned out to be its main competitor - railway transport.
      2. perm23
        perm23 28 October 2015 11: 52 New
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        That's for sure . we build and build roads, repair and repair. This is our constant work. We learned how to break and break up, steal, but do not want to develop.
  16. nivander
    nivander 28 October 2015 07: 13 New
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    it’s simply incorrect to give us an example of shaving with their tunnel under the Channel
  17. BecmepH
    BecmepH 28 October 2015 07: 19 New
    -2
    No need to look at the water world through the eyes of a frightened nomad.
    I disagree with the author and put a "minus". The article is similar to a customized (swamp-liberal) one. According to the author's logic, you need to go back to ancient times. Let's still "sail" on steamers. And let's, as before, live without refrigerators (we will build cellars). We will not heat houses with gas (we still have a lot of forests). We will illuminate the huts with torches and we will go to the closets, such as MZH. For example, the author takes bygone times. This is, to put it mildly ... It is not correct ... I agree, we need to develop water transport. But why should we catch up? The whole article is empty words, not one number.
    1. Marconi41
      Marconi41 28 October 2015 07: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: BecmepH
      For example, the author takes bygone times

      So, seaports in Russia are no longer needed? Have you ever been to Crimea? Take a ride, it's interesting. Look at the track from Kerch to Simferopol. Narrow one-strip to Dzhankoy. The author is right. If there is a bridge and the roads are not redone (and I did not notice the reconstruction of the Kerch highway this year), then traffic jams will stand from the bridge to Simferopol itself. And maritime transport could take up to a third of freight. And today, it would help Crimeans in the transportation of goods and supplies. Is not it so?
    2. Olezhek
      28 October 2015 10: 13 New
      +2
      According to the logic of the author, you need to return to ancient times.


      According to the logic of the author, Russia needs its merchant fleet.
      Cuts in
      Here are many forum users plan to send ground troops to Syria
      The question is how to supply them there?
      How to supply a grouping in 10 thousand bayonets?
      By the air?
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    1. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 28 October 2015 08: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: killganoff
      Author, you are nystka and bore.


      And you are not literate! tongue

      Dear colleague, read something to comment before publishing, it’s funny right. hi
    2. Das Boot
      Das Boot 28 October 2015 09: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: killganoff
      Author, you nytka and a bore.

      Well then nytki and nerds
      laughing
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 28 October 2015 11: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Das Boot
        Well, then nystki and boring

        While you were gnawing, the moderator corrected his spelling .. laughing
        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 28 October 2015 11: 48 New
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          Quote: afdjhbn67
          While you were gnawing, the moderator corrected his spelling ..


          At least some positive effect from them. wassat
        2. Das Boot
          Das Boot 28 October 2015 13: 51 New
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          Quote: afdjhbn67
          While you were gnawing, the moderator corrected his spelling ..


          laughing
  19. Signaller
    Signaller 28 October 2015 07: 36 New
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    In principle, he built a bridge and forgot about sea crossings. And ships, ferries ???? These are ports, ferries and ships themselves. which must be built. The time for their construction is also not a year. So far, in principle, they are coping. Then there will be a ferry crossing. like an understudy. Yes, and the railway will go over the bridge, this is no longer a ferry crossing. The cargo flow that goes to the Crimea is not even comparable with the Sakhalin ferries and ferries. The orders are different.
    Yes, and winter in these places with their storms is not sickly. And if the strait freezes as well. ????? Here, even icebreakers will be needed. Not ...... the bridge is more reliable, definitely.
  20. dog1965
    dog1965 28 October 2015 07: 52 New
    +4
    I’ll try, as a former employee of Rosmorport, to briefly (if possible) clarify the situation.
    Indeed, sea transport is the cheapest in transportation. But correctly noted igorra everything here depends on the shoulder. And plus the type of cargo. Sea transport is well used in the transportation of bulk cargo and bulk. A vessel of the Volgo-Don or Volgo-Balt type has tonnage from 5000 to 10000. It is advisable to transport the rest in containers. In general, I am silent about the presence of river container ships. And what cargoes and in what batches are delivered to the Crimea? So calculate the economy, who is in the know about logistics? Railway transport, and even more so automobile transport, allows for less overload and smaller volumes.
    Yes, it should be borne in mind that Crimea is under sanctions, and our ship owners go abroad. It is profitable. Why do they need extra problems? But the passenger fleet without subsidies is generally unprofitable. That is why Kos_kalinki9 and there are now no "meteors", "comets" and other joys of movement on water.
    To summarize: as long as there is no normal policy of state regulation in maritime transport, there will be no good maritime communication. Ideally, it would be generally necessary to create a limited number of shipping companies (it would be good if they were generally state-owned) and encourage cross-subsidization for passenger traffic, and give tax preferences to those who develop inland navigation. (Eh, dreams, dreams!)
    1. perm23
      perm23 28 October 2015 11: 58 New
      0
      Well, we are the state or what. Why the state can not force and protect shipowners. You never know what sanctions and what. It's a shame just. And for Sberbank and for all this disgrace.
  21. Kolka82
    Kolka82 28 October 2015 08: 03 New
    -3
    The author allegedly was born yesterday - there is another washing of the dough.
  22. tihon4uk
    tihon4uk 28 October 2015 08: 10 New
    +1
    To provide Crimea, it is enough to build a small container terminal so that "kids" could unload there, 10 container ships with 200-300 containers each is more than enough. We do not build a merchant fleet because we cannot. At the same Admiralty shipyards, they build anyhow, the "famous" series of tankers Tavrichesky Bridge, Troitsky Bridge, etc. came out just awful, any mechanic from these steamers will tell you this (with a few personally signs). At the Bryansk Machine-Building Plant, they managed to defile the most reliable two-stroke engines of the Burmeister & Wain brand, all the second mechanics on the ships are simply hung up. Yes, we need a merchant fleet like air, while there is only a tanker fleet and even then not the largest one, but almost everything is built in South Korea.
  23. akudr48
    akudr48 28 October 2015 08: 12 New
    +4
    The author correctly speaks of maritime transport as an example of communication with the Crimea. But there are many more problems.

    In general, for a country as vast as Russia, the existing transport infrastructure is completely insufficient, underdeveloped and inefficient, and is still inferior to the Soviet one, although more than 25 years have passed.

    Whatever type of transport you take, maritime, river, aviation, railway, road, everywhere there are only problems that reduce communication between regions into some medieval expeditions.

    There is a concept of regional connectivity, and the corresponding science showing that with poor transport connectivity, a country tends to break up into regions. And from this point of view, the main separatists in the country are representatives of its ruling class, which, due to greed and incompetence, tear the country into separate territories, creating the preconditions for collapse.

    Only pipeline transport is flourishing, because our "elite" makes money on it when supplying gas and oil abroad. Such pipelines are a kind of channels for the withdrawal of national wealth from the country.

    The article is good, the problem is current, the author is right.
    1. Dembel77
      Dembel77 28 October 2015 08: 36 New
      0
      Quote: akudr48
      Only pipeline transport is flourishing, because our "elite" makes money on it when supplying gas and oil abroad. Such pipelines are a kind of channels for the withdrawal of national wealth from the country.

      Russia needs laws like air to make money not only on all modes of transport, but also in other sectors of the economy. In particular, it is no secret that Russian tax legislation is very far from perfect.
  24. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 28 October 2015 08: 21 New
    0
    Again, "for a fish, a penny" from the cycle "what hurts someone, he talks about it"! Everything is elementary simple: some, referring to something cheaper, are trying to sabotage the decision to build a bridge (as they did on the issue of laying power cables along the bottom of the Kerch Strait back in December 2014), others are trying to promote other interests of other players, but in reality THE BRIDGE IS NECESSARY AND BASTA and stop wailing, you have to do it!
    1. perm23
      perm23 28 October 2015 12: 00 New
      +1
      Yes, you need a bridge of course. NEEDED. But besides the bridge it is necessary to have sea transport.
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    1. tihon4uk
      tihon4uk 28 October 2015 08: 34 New
      +2
      But cheap transportation on ships makes just a long range of traffic.
      I do not agree, there are not large crossings between the ports of discharge, for example, from Ust-Luga to Sweden, 2 days the transition and gas carriers run, it is quite cost-effective. I often work on a tanker in the states, from Canada to New York they went, switching 3 days.
      1. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 28 October 2015 12: 01 New
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        But in general, we have considerable experience, because from the collapse of the USSR, the Kaliningrad Region is almost the same island!
  26. Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk 28 October 2015 08: 35 New
    0
    The author specifically chtoli mows under the fool.
    The bridge itself is a project.
    The supply and logistics of Crimea is completely different.
    It was necessary to supply electricity, to get water - all this was done in a couple of months. And the recent scandal when Ukrainian producers drove goods to Russia through Crimea? By airplanes and scows, or what?
    There is a lot of fuss, who and how much can steal, when building a bridge to the Crimea - and nothing more.
    And the fact that our civilian fleet is ruined - well, who cares, everyone knows.
    Although, again, it’s collapsed ... well, I wouldn’t say so, we go under the flags of others. So we are not the only ones so cunning. Panama is an exceptionally land country, there is a canal, so does it need the largest fleet in the world to carry goods through the canal?
    Crafty article, crafty.
    1. Olezhek
      28 October 2015 08: 44 New
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      Crafty article, crafty.


      Thank! Unexpected high score. hi
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 28 October 2015 11: 46 New
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        Quote: Olezhek
        Thank! Unexpected high score.

        Judging by the comments for the vital backlog, the goal has been achieved, the two non-small problems of the bridge and the fleet, also an interesting look at the problem, plus set
      2. Bashibuzuk
        Bashibuzuk 28 October 2015 12: 18 New
        +2
        No, I'm really serious.
        The article itself is good. And the language is so juicy.
        I really liked the general installation and the examples with the pontoon bridge to Syria.
        For, so to speak, "to score under the hat" one could give an example of how our mayors of the Krasnodar Territory carved the sea when, due to storms, they blocked the ferry crossing.
        .
        However, well, I saw a different meaning, a deeper one - it is necessary, they say, to develop the fleet, and to destroy the bridge.
        But in my opinion, one is not connected with the other in any way.
        So I say - crafty.
  27. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 28 October 2015 08: 44 New
    +1
    The bridge is needed. And a civilian fleet is needed. In general, it’s absurd - we build warships ourselves and good ones, planes, build rockets, but we can’t build civil ships, we need to ask the Turks, or what kind of Koreans are there ... To ensure the grouping in Syria, we pack up Turkish junk in packs ... Let's ask the Turks will build us a merchant fleet and we will pay what to do if we ourselves are not able to.
  28. sevtrash
    sevtrash 28 October 2015 08: 46 New
    +2
    The author, such an impression, almost did not think. At least imagine, from point A to point B you need to transport the goods. Option 1 - loaded into a truck, which went directly from A to B (if there is such a road). Quickly? Still, if the distance is not very large. Option 2 - loaded into the truck, the first stage - to the port, which is not necessarily in the same direction as point B. Well, if there is no port, or there is no loading and unloading complex - you still need to build or improve the port initially. The second stage is transshipment at the port, onto the ship, which takes time, money, and ships (how much the ship and its maintenance cost). The third stage - the ship goes from port to port. To reduce the cost of this process, the vessel must be large, and since many of these are not needed, the intervals between voyages will not be short, therefore separate vessels for perishable goods. The fourth stage is transshipment in the port with the appropriate infrastructure, and if not, it is also necessary to build. The fifth stage is the delivery of trucks from one port (if there are more ports, the costs will increase) by points B.
    So compare, the author, the volume of logistics operations, and before that, calculate the costs of both options.
    1. Stone
      Stone 28 October 2015 10: 15 New
      +1
      I agree with you, I’ll add that the road for goods to Crimea is one way, Crimea is not rich in natural resources and produces nothing (and this is good, due to this there is good ecology) such that it is necessary to export large volumes there . Load Crimean ports with transit cargo? Meaning? Load the future bridge and road wagons? It is better to develop ports in the Krasnodar Territory.
      P.S. The bridge to the Crimea will remove 100% of all problems with communication with him. And the prices of goods will fall and the flow of tourists will increase several times. Believe me, I constantly wind up in a car and a little on the planes of Yevpatoriya-Kirov, 2800 km.
      1. Olezhek
        28 October 2015 10: 35 New
        0
        The bridge to the Crimea will remove on 100% all problems with communication with it.


        Plus the development of the road network in Crimea, plus the "indestructibility" of the bridge ..
        1. perm23
          perm23 28 October 2015 12: 02 New
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          The most important thing is the indestructibility of the bridge.
  29. Azzi
    Azzi 28 October 2015 08: 47 New
    +1
    As you know, the cheapest transport is sea.


    Of course, when working in large batches. To transport 20K tons of thread to where the thread - just right. True, these same 20K tons must be accumulated, stored, transported and reloaded, but this is another matter. The author of the article misses a few points. More precisely, a lot of points, to be honest, to paint them - material for the whole article and probably very few people are interested. Still, the logistics are narrowly sharpened garbage. I simply sketch out thesis.

    1. Multimodal standardized transportations rule the way, carry the consignments you need, in a constant flow (necessary for you), without freezing a lot of money, without wasting money on huge warehouses and so on.
    2. With a shorter shoulder, railway is several times more profitable than a car. Auto is 20 tons. Railway - 60. Offhand cars Novorossiysk - Kemerovo 190K rubles, Railway - 110K rubles and do not forget about the weight.
    3. The bridge includes a railway branch, which will remove the load on the car. There will be no traffic jams (why did you get it?), At least not more than when entering Rostov, for example.
    4. It is much more important to reduce the tariffs of transshipment points and taxes on transport companies. The average invoice price of goods from China, 20 tons of consumer goods is $ 20K. Transportation costs for this cargo when delivered to the recipient in Moscow, for example, by sea + land + transshipment are about $ 5K. It is clear that the recipient will then include these costs in the price of the goods, and in terms of orientation to dollars, you will receive a surge in prices. Yes, one more thing, nonsense, but all Russian ports work based on a price tag in dollars.
    5. There are ships and shipowners who seek to enter the Crimea, a problem in international legal practice. Until Crimea is recognized by others, going there is fraught with the fact that then, in which thread of lousy Bulgaria, a ship will be arrested for calling you into Crimea. The solution option is the left company, one ship sailing exclusively in the Crimea does not roll. For many reasons. Double transshipment through Russian ports is expensive.
    6. I must admit, we are a land power, it is impossible to rely on the sea, where we are weak. More precisely, one cannot rely solely on it. In addition, look at our geographical location, God himself ordered us to build land routes. China also understands this. Read about the new Silk Road. Amazing plans are being created there. China - Moscow 6K dollars per 10 days.
  30. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 28 October 2015 08: 58 New
    +2
    Interesting article, problematic. And the comments are interesting, there is something to read. Although, of course, not everything is as indisputable as the author presented. One of the colleagues was right when he drew attention to the "shoulder" of cargo transportation to Crimea by water transport, the shorter the more expensive. But perhaps with what I unconditionally agree with the author is the fact that in modern Russia the civilian fleet has been practically destroyed, including all its directions, transport, passenger and fishing. I don't know who is to blame for the collapse itself, but I understand well enough that the current authorities are not even interested in the very question of the need for a civilian fleet. It is easier to trumpet about import substitution of seafood than to actually deal with the problems of the fishing fleet.

    Something like that, Dear colleagues. hi
  31. Gardamir
    Gardamir 28 October 2015 09: 05 New
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    Sea by sea, but there is still air transport.
  32. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 28 October 2015 10: 20 New
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    Actual cabotage on the Black Sea Turkey-Crimea. Most tourists need a bridge on personal cars and trains. In peacetime, railway communication over the bridge can solve all supply problems and the mainland-Crimea cabotage becomes unnecessary. To develop cabotage, you need to seriously invest in ports, both in the Crimea and on the mainland. On the mainland, you need to build new ones and bring railway to them. Ships and ferries are generally a separate problem, but it can be quickly solved for money, or load Crimean shipyards.
    1. Olezhek
      28 October 2015 10: 38 New
      0
      In peacetime, the railway message over the bridge can solve all the problems of supply and coastal-coastal coasting becomes unnecessary.


      The capacity of the bridge, calculated on 20 years ahead and it will be enough with a margin, and still remain ...
  33. Antoshka
    Antoshka 28 October 2015 10: 25 New
    0
    Quote: croche
    yeah on the Black Sea storm season 350 days a year?

    Yes, at least how many days a year. Why people should not be able to go where they need to, even because of one day of the storm. In the cities, too, snowfalls are not 360 days a year, however, if the road is not cleared on time, everyone moans that they DID NOT reach TIME. And you offer Crimeans to wait a few DAYS! Are they second-class people? And so you know, storms in the strait can last up to a week.
  34. skolotkerch
    skolotkerch 28 October 2015 11: 04 New
    +2
    The author is right in many ways, explain to me, as a resident of Kerch, why fuel trucks load the ferry and drive it to the fishing port, why is it worse to fit a tanker to the Feodosia terminal? Why do goods come in wagons via ferry, and not containers through the ports of both Kerch and Feodosia, Yalta, Sevastopol, Yevpatoriya. Yes, this will require the creation of large logistics companies that would regulate commodity circulation, but is it not easier with the situation in the Crimea than each entrepreneur independently organizes the delivery of goods to the peninsula?
  35. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 28 October 2015 11: 23 New
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    A lot, a lot, a lot of all kinds of beetles, big and small, but seriously, then the merchant fleet as a great sea country is needed, but the article generally talks about Crimea and the absence of a land route,
    the bridge is firstly, secondly and thirdly, and marine transport in this case is only on the fly and making the main bet on it is stupid and not effective.
  36. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 28 October 2015 11: 27 New
    0
    Actually, the problem is not with goods and people (who have been riding ferries perfectly for decades), but with electricity and water. The blockade has blown up the supports of the electric wires, but it’s blocking the channels. And the bridge will allow you to quickly introduce energy and water, for example, before the construction of a nuclear power plant and desalination plant in the Crimea.
  37. shelva
    shelva 28 October 2015 11: 30 New
    0
    We must proceed from the fact that Crimea is an island for Russia so far. Fortunately, this island is nearby, but if it was much further away from us ?, we would begin to build bridges there. In general, the author is right - the established communication with Crimea on water is much more effective and, importantly, cheaper than land. The bridge will not hurt, but this is not a priority.
  38. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 28 October 2015 11: 42 New
    -1
    Bridge, bridge. Even if it weren’t needed, they built it anyway. Who is building it? Mr. Rotenberg. The dearest friend of our guarantor. By the way, the Crimean authorities are going to build a tunnel that will cost half the price of the bridge. Does this mean anything? And the throughput of the tunnel of 45000 cars per day is two times the bridge. Google.
    1. anti-Semite
      anti-Semite 28 October 2015 13: 46 New
      +2
      a tunnel cannot be cheaper than a bridge, in principle, yes, and if it were not for the guarantor, then there would be nothing to discuss
      1. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 28 October 2015 16: 44 New
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        The bridge will cost somewhere around 270-280 billion, and private owners will build the tunnel for 180-210 billion. Moreover, the passage through the tunnel will be paid (14,5 km), and with a decrease in the charge up to free, it seems to be so. from an excess of feelings, here you are right.
        1. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 28 October 2015 18: 57 New
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          the construction of the tunnel is more complicated technologically and more costly in materials, plus its maintenance is more expensive, excuse me, but I doubt the accuracy of the numbers
  39. _my opinion
    _my opinion 28 October 2015 12: 28 New
    0
    Construction of an energy bridge across the Kerch Strait
    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/69678/

    Construction of a technical bridge across the Kerch Strait
    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/69679/

    I’ve read a photo story (on the same resource) about the construction of a power plant in Crimea ... I didn’t find it right away,
    therefore I do not provide a link
  40. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 28 October 2015 13: 44 New
    +3
    and who said that the bridge and sea transport are mutually exclusive things? the bridge does not cancel the relevance of maritime transport and vice versa
  41. WUS 068
    WUS 068 28 October 2015 14: 39 New
    -1
    The author is right a thousand times !!! It’s a pity you can’t put more than one plus
  42. ando_bor
    ando_bor 29 October 2015 00: 51 New
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    And why do they build bridges across the rivers - they would sail on ferries.
    The bridge to the Crimea is not a substitute for maritime communications, it is the development of land communications, you can compare it with crossing a large river on the federal highway with lots of traffic - you cannot allow the ferry crossing to be there.
    1. Olezhek
      29 October 2015 08: 53 New
      -1
      The bridge to the Crimea is not a substitute for maritime communications; this is the development of land


      That is, the entire Black Sea Fleet will be supplied through this bridge? All the air force in the Crimea?
      And all the army units?
      And all the traffic for the next 20 years only through this bridge?
      How to supply the grouping in Syria without sea communications?
  43. Oleko
    Oleko 1 November 2015 05: 58 New
    0
    Quote: TOZ-34
    A simple example is that not a single ship built by Russian factories is built on time. Imperfections, flaws. Finns or Germans - at least buy tickets in advance. Day to day. And the most important excuses, as with the harvest. Or "we have a lot of orders, there are not enough workers, what do you want?" Or "there are few orders, there are not enough workers, what do you want?"

    Yantar Shipyard The plant was founded on the basis of the German shipyard Shikhau. [1] In the post-war years, talented engineers took part in the restoration of the plant, among whom should be noted N. G. Daniel-Beck, who worked from 1946 to 1965. She was called by her colleagues "Chief Metallurgist of the City". In 1991-2005, the plant experienced a decline in production due to a strong decrease in orders. The plant is currently going through a new stage of production development. The plant does not make civilian ships, unfortunately. But then he sent the oceanographic ship Yantar to sail. Something else was laid on the stocks.