Agreement with Armenia on a joint air defense system approved and submitted for approval to the Russian president

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The Russian government approved the agreement with Armenia on the creation of a unified air defense system in the Caucasus region and will send it to Vladimir Putin for signature, reports RIA News message of the Cabinet.

Agreement with Armenia on a joint air defense system approved and submitted for approval to the Russian president


Prior to this, Pavel Kurachenko, Deputy Commander of the All-Union Military Space Council, reported on the completion of the procedure of intra-state approval of the project and its preparation for signing.

According to him, "at the moment Russia is working on the creation of the United regional air defense systems with Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan." As for Kazakhstan, an agreement on the air defense system was signed with him back in 2013.

“Adopt a draft decree of the government of the Russian Federation on this issue,” the press release says.
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  1. +3
    25 October 2015 13: 08
    Armenia is sacred for Russia! .. Let someone pimp ... bully
    They shoot at a tank bialton well ..! Experience is great .. hehe
    1. +29
      25 October 2015 13: 13
      A very necessary thing, the further we meet, the better for us.
      1. +8
        25 October 2015 13: 23
        Quote: vovanpain
        A very necessary thing, the further we meet ...

        The matter is simply necessary, at least in one direction any reliability is outlined. I consider this a necessary initiative, this is not a trifle, it is a great reliability in our safety.
        1. +25
          25 October 2015 14: 23
          Erdogan anal pain laughing
        2. +12
          25 October 2015 15: 45
          Unfortunately, the United States understands this too ... It is not for nothing that the "opposition" is activated there ... The Armenians would not be smart enough to slip into the Ukrainian scenario ... Amerov's foundations have also been "working" with young people there for a long time ...
        3. +5
          25 October 2015 16: 50
          Quote: venaya
          Quote: vovanpain
          A very necessary thing, the further we meet ...

          The matter is simply necessary, at least in one direction any reliability is outlined. I consider this a necessary initiative, this is not a trifle, it is a great reliability in our safety.

          Everything is so unstable in the former Union republics.
          The Naglosaks are waiting for the established presidents, under which these republics are friendly to Russia, will not be elected. There is no continuity of power, uncertainty. If not, wait for something? they will also invest worthless 1-2 billion dead presidents. And no, friendly, Former Union Republic. sad
      2. +3
        25 October 2015 14: 02
        It is a pity that our "Uzbek comrades" are standing on the sidelines and silently watching. God forbid, if the Fergana Valley "seethes" ...
        1. +2
          25 October 2015 15: 48
          They will soon begin to fight with their neighbors for water ... The population is growing (unlike Russia), but the water is no longer becoming ... Already cotton is no longer growing - it takes a lot of water ...
          1. +2
            25 October 2015 18: 41
            Quote: razzhivin
            They will soon start fighting with their neighbors for water ..

            unfortunately you are right

            The President of Uzbekistan Karimov himself has been "sounding the alarm" for a long time that the waters in the SA do not ring and water wars are already a reality

            All this will not add peace to the southern borders of Kazakhstan - read the Eurasian Union

            I read that Nazarbayev was discussing with Putin the reanimation of the project of transferring the flow of northern rivers to the SA

            At one time, the USSR was going to do this, but then perestroika happened and then completely collapsed
            1. +2
              25 October 2015 19: 27
              The main problem is that they have forgotten how to negotiate ... and without this there is no way ... In the days of the USSR, everything was built on the "overflows" of water, electricity, etc. now the situation is aggravating (the population is growing rapidly), and there is little readiness to negotiate - everyone pulls a blanket over himself ... and the United States is right there ...
            2. +2
              25 October 2015 20: 32
              Quote: Talgat
              I read that Nazarbayev was discussing with Putin the reanimation of the project of transferring the flow of northern rivers to the SA

              At one time, the USSR was going to do this, but then perestroika happened and then completely collapsed

              Nitsche, but now in the framework of the Eurasian Union this thing will go faster Yes
          2. 0
            25 October 2015 22: 45
            Quote: razzhivin
            They will soon begin to fight with their neighbors for water ... The population is growing (unlike Russia), but the water is no longer becoming ... Already cotton is no longer growing - it takes a lot of water ...

            You have outdated data about the demographic situation in Russia
        2. 0
          26 October 2015 01: 11
          Our "Uzbek comrades", for the time being, probably do not feel an obvious danger. Uzbekistan, as a member of the CSTO, has the opportunity, in the presence of external interference, to ask for help from this organization. So the CSTO organization itself can intervene. And although Armenia is also a member of the CSTO. However, She has no direct borders with any member of this organization. Hence, it is probably necessary to place such funds in advance.
    2. +2
      25 October 2015 13: 16
      And what is the Armenian component of the joint air defense system? Cognac?.. laughing
      1. +36
        25 October 2015 13: 45
        Quote: marlin1203
        And what is the Armenian component of the joint air defense system? Cognac?..
        Territory! allowing you to detect much earlier the Axes invisible from our plain, hidden by mountains, raise the alarm, it may even bring down something ... Or did you forget that from ancient times in Russia there was a system of advanced outposts?
        Cognac? Well, that, too, will do!
        After all, it is not for nothing that "all the wealth of choice" W. Churchill (Count of Marlborough, by the way!) Preferred 3-star Armenian! And he, like an old alcoholic, knew a lot about this business! wink
        1. +3
          25 October 2015 14: 49
          It seems to me that this is a guarantee that the conflict in the NKR will not spread to the territory of main Armenia. Those until the conflict in NKR spreads to the territory of Armenia itself, we can restrain the situation within the framework of a local conflict and not a full-fledged war between the two countries where we would be dragged. Plus, we entered into an agreement with Az-m on the construction of a radar there. So we will have our military facilities both in Armenia and on the territory. Thus, we will be able to detect a probable missile strike against us, including the Caspian flotilla, in advance and take measures.
        2. +4
          25 October 2015 15: 27
          here not to take away, not to add .. (also an alcoholic, anonymous drinks )
      2. +3
        25 October 2015 13: 46
        No .. the territory for accommodation, then cognac (after arrangement).
        Quote: marlin1203
        And what is the Armenian component of the joint air defense system? Cognac?.. laughing
      3. 0
        25 October 2015 16: 24
        What about humor on the site, people ?!
        1. +2
          25 October 2015 17: 24
          Quote: marlin1203
          What about humor on the site, people ?!
          No, humor, okay, you can put it off for later what About cognac would be more detailed, preferably belay
          1. 0
            26 October 2015 05: 30
            What a sense of humor, after Saturday, everyone has an otodnyak from Armenian cognac ...
      4. 0
        25 October 2015 16: 59
        Quote: marlin1203
        And what is the Armenian component of the joint air defense system? Cognac?.

        Cognac, also not bad, as an addition what Ask the Israelites why they grabbed the Golan Heights? And we ourselves are invited.
    3. +1
      25 October 2015 13: 18
      General military command is needed.
      1. +2
        25 October 2015 17: 11
        Quote: Civil
        General military command is needed.

        Yeah, Native American national hut! Whose complexes, he answers and commands, to the heap. Coordinators, with the right to advise where higher and how best to establish the supply, what And cognac too wink
    4. +8
      25 October 2015 13: 19
      The Turks flew over the border of Armenia (after our "flight" in the air defense of Turkey in Syria) and now get it!
    5. +6
      25 October 2015 13: 20
      Again Erdogan will be tormented by nightmares ... laughing
      1. +8
        25 October 2015 13: 51
        Quote: Finches
        Again Erdogan will be tormented by nightmares ...

        Well, this is provided that instead of SAMs we put Caliber 400M-3s into the tubes. We won’t be original: the Yankees are trying to do the same trick with their Euro-ABM located in Poland or Romania.
        1. -10
          25 October 2015 15: 02
          Do not shove the non-pushable. No, the truth, after the recent salute, many Uri-patriots decided that Caliber is such a universal wunderwafer that can solve all geopolitical issues, and which we have
          1. +17
            25 October 2015 16: 57
            Quote: Wiruz
            many urya patriots decided that Caliber is such a universal prodigy,
            Alexey, hello. Let us be clear. He served 43 years in the navy (10 of them outside the iron deck), so what I am writing about, I have some idea. He had one hat (to throw enemies) and did not throw them around. Although I love my country, I never belonged to the "uryakalka" (you can see my 5000 comments). Therefore, your attack is not accepted.
            Now, the essence of the problem.
            I participated (at the dawn of this case) in the tests of tactical Caliber (Clab-S), so I know the TTX and MGX.
            I looked at the Triumph / Favorite, compared. It turns out: (3M-14 / 48N6E2) mass: 1770 / 1840kg; length: 6,20 / 7,5m; diameter: 0,514 / 0,519m.
            Total solids: caliber - lighter, thinner, shorter than missiles. Well, what is INTRACTABLE here? By diameter? So 533mm is the diameter of the capsule for firing from under the water, and the "naked" 3M14 is 514mm! So your
            Do not shove the non-pushable.
            - empty shake of the ATMOSPHERE!
            Another question: Does Triumph TPK need to charge 3M14? - No, it’s not necessary, not for that they were made.
            Can i? - With a strong desire - they will fit in and there will still be a place! The length of the dimensions of the starter (PAD) will be adjusted to "one-two". Firing data input connectors? - it is also not a problem to put new ones or (combine / add / upgrade) existing ones.
            Is there any similar experience with am? On the Patriots, no, but in the mine-based missile defense system, instead of light interceptors, they tried to put heavy GBIs that can be used to shoot at ballistics for more than 500 km. Ours stopped this business.
            So, not everything secret becomes apparent at first sight. Sometimes you should take a closer look and spread your brains. (if they are, of course, in stock!) Yes
        2. +1
          25 October 2015 18: 17
          Why not!
        3. +1
          25 October 2015 20: 40
          Quote: BoA KAA
          Quote: Finches
          Again Erdogan will be tormented by nightmares ...

          Well, this is provided that instead of SAMs we put Caliber 400M-3s into the tubes. We won’t be original: the Yankees are trying to do the same trick with their Euro-ABM located in Poland or Romania.

          Gee-gee. Tooting good
          Well, the current mattress will now experience .. opposition to its miraculous intentions, in the light of public statements and assessments of Vladimir Vladimirovich. And after the Caspian salvo and the success of the Russian Aerospace Forces, his words acquired unacceptably large weight in world diplomacy (the ruble, and it strengthens! belay )! The Americans generally went underground laughing good
    6. +5
      25 October 2015 13: 21
      The most radical-minded circles in Azerbaijan were saddened at once ..., a sore subject - Nagorno-Karabakh.
      1. -1
        25 October 2015 19: 33
        You are mistaken .... Everything has its time !!!
    7. +13
      25 October 2015 13: 29
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Armenia is sacred for Russia! ..


      Holy for Russia is Russia itself. And Armenia at this stage is an ally of Russia.
      1. +1
        25 October 2015 13: 37
        Quote: igor1981
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Armenia is sacred for Russia! ..


        Holy for Russia is Russia itself. And Armenia at this stage is an ally of Russia.

        Orthodoxy has been there for a long time! So we hold her .. hi
        1. 0
          25 October 2015 22: 33
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Orthodoxy has been there for a long time! So we hold her ..


          Did you notice that they are baptized like Catholics?
      2. +3
        25 October 2015 20: 49
        Quote: igor1981
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Armenia is sacred for Russia! ..


        Holy for Russia is Russia itself. And Armenia at this stage is an ally of Russia.

        Usually WE never throw allies. Unlike naglosaksa.
        ====================================================================== =========
        England has no permanent allies. England has permanent interests. Churchill.
        And that's it hi
        1. 0
          25 October 2015 22: 39
          Quote: GSH-18
          Usually WE never throw allies. Unlike naglosaksa.

          Grumbling under his breath:
          "Throw them, al us, the ancestors will curse. The son came from the deadline in a besk with a jack, Rogachevovo airfield, watchman, naval aviation, at the very engineer-sapper, snot, shook his fist what It seems that everyone who throws something, himself, or what cha? More, like there are no allies "belay
    8. +3
      25 October 2015 13: 45
      Quote: MIKHAN
      .Let somebody pimp ...


      Yes, Armenia receives a good umbrella, and it will be more convenient for us and to examine in more detail what is happening at Amer airbases Incirlik and Diyarbakir in Turkey.
      Armavir's arm is lengthening, the eye is getting closer ...
      1. +4
        25 October 2015 14: 14
        Quote: hydrox
        Armavir's arm is lengthening, the eye is getting closer ...
        Are you really going to drag the Armavir-Voronezh-DM into the mountains of Ararat?bully
        No need: the second stage to the south is already under construction. But this is against ICBMs, and the "Container" must cope with Axes. The Armavir radar station closes the south-western direction, controlling the airspace from southern Europe to the northern coast of Africa; replaced the radar station "Dnepr" in Mukachevo and in Sevastopol. The second segment is planned, which will cover the area of ​​the Gabala radar station (south direction) (VIKI).
    9. -2
      25 October 2015 23: 50
      Who told you that holy is Armenia for us? Even they, the Armenians, do not think so. This is just a necessary necessity.
  2. starriuy
    +15
    25 October 2015 13: 08
    Yes. The union needs to be revived ... at least for the time being ...
  3. +6
    25 October 2015 13: 09
    A dining CIS air defense system would be appropriate and it would be cheaper.
    1. +7
      25 October 2015 13: 20
      Quote: avvg
      Lunch air defense system must be created in all CIS countries, it will be cheaper.

      This is how it is created. Take the compass and walk over the map. Grodno, Brest, Crimea, a couple of points in Armenia, Kazakhstan. In the future, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, you can find a pair of points for a compass for an estimate. And twist the circles, with a radius of that way 250-300 km. A very nice picture is obtained. There is some gap in the place of Ukraine, but, I think, in 3-4 years it will be "tightened".
      1. avt
        +2
        25 October 2015 13: 40
        Quote: Eragon
        And so it is created. Take the compass and go around the map. Grodno, Brest, Crimea, a couple of points in Armenia, Kazakhstan

        What compass to take? Not a caliper by accident? laughing Here is one of the above that obeys ONE command and carries out the actual orders of this
        Quote: Civil
        General military command is needed.

        Is it actually created? National air defense and their units in the know? Well, and again - how is it with the base about which But father is not in the know? We are sure that en will be in the know about the unified command wassat
        Quote: avvg
        A dining CIS air defense system would be appropriate and it would be cheaper.

        It would be, no doubt. But national rulers will NEVER go to a single command with the obligatory execution of his orders subordinate to national air defense. And no one in their right mind and solid memory will steer Russian air defense in an ugly manner, whole horde.
        1. +4
          25 October 2015 14: 31
          Quote: avt
          What compass to take? Not a caliper by accident?

          The word "caliper" comes from the German "Stangenzirkel", which means a universal tool suitable for precise hole measurements, external and internal sizes of various objects.
          And how did you get them to draw circles?
          1. avt
            0
            25 October 2015 15: 51
            Quote: Eragon
            And how did you get them to draw circles?

            Yes, just like here pissing with delight about the advertised "unified air defense" in virtual real air defense problems have already been solved.
            1. +1
              25 October 2015 16: 18
              Quote: avt
              Quote: Eragon
              And how did you get them to draw circles?

              Yes, just like here pissing with delight about the advertised "unified air defense" in virtual real air defense problems have already been solved.

              Are you going to make pots? Omniscient, maybe you know the rank and surname of the commander of the combined air defense system of Russia and Belarus? There really is no system yet, its launch is scheduled for the end of the 2016 year, and the commander is already there. Approved and submitted by its subordinates.
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        2. +1
          25 October 2015 15: 54
          > But the national rulers will NEVER go to a single command with the obligatory execution of its orders by the subordinate national air defense.

          why do you think so ?

          In his right mind, no leader of Armenia will allow the ground forces to be subordinated to the general command - after the operation "Ring" at the end of the Soviet Union, after the Soviet troops were always several days late to defend the Armenian population in Baku and Sumgait, it is simply not possible.

          But air defense is a completely different matter, there are options. But probably not earlier than the Russian Federation will restore order in its troops located in Armenia. So far, about once every six months / year, bloody emergencies occur - Permyakov is not the first case, he’s just the most egregious
          1. -1
            25 October 2015 22: 39
            Quote: xtur
            after Soviet troops were always several days late to defend the Armenian population in Baku and Sumgait


            Is the army supposed to protect against internal unrest and bandits?
            Why then did the police and internal troops exist?
            The army has other tasks ...
      2. +3
        25 October 2015 14: 04
        Quote: Eragon
        you can find a couple of points for a compass on them for an estimate. And twist the circles, with a radius that way 250-300 km. A very nice picture is obtained. There is some gap in the place of Ukraine, but, I think, in 3-4 years it will be "dragged on".

        It is not necessary to look at the radius of the circle of the air defense cover, but at the diameter. S-400 can cover an 800 kilometer stretch.
      3. -4
        25 October 2015 22: 53
        Quote: Eragon
        Quote: avvg
        Lunch air defense system must be created in all CIS countries, it will be cheaper.

        This is how it is created. Take the compass and walk over the map. Grodno, Brest, Crimea, a couple of points in Armenia, Kazakhstan. In the future, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, you can find a pair of points for a compass for an estimate. And twist the circles, with a radius of that way 250-300 km. A very nice picture is obtained. There is some gap in the place of Ukraine, but, I think, in 3-4 years it will be "tightened".

        I think that through 3-4, a country like Russia simply will not exist. The Stalinists, instigated from overseas, will work hard, today he saw their crowing for the new GDP rating
  4. +4
    25 October 2015 13: 11
    On the entire perimeter of the union from dishonesty we put a stockade with missiles. Let them slip into our garden.
  5. +7
    25 October 2015 13: 11
    Everything is correct. Right steps. It's time to return to the "sphere of Russia's vital interests."
  6. +9
    25 October 2015 13: 12
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Armenia is sacred for Russia! .. Let someone pimp ... bully

    It would be sacred, they wouldn’t put so many weapons into Azerbaijan.
    1. +2
      25 October 2015 13: 21
      Quote: SarS
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Armenia is sacred for Russia! .. Let someone pimp ... bully

      It would be sacred, they wouldn’t put so many weapons into Azerbaijan.

      Well, you bought it ..))) And they’re afraid to use it! bully Great plan was .... wassat
      1. -1
        25 October 2015 19: 36
        You are mistaken .... Everything has its time !!!
    2. +3
      25 October 2015 13: 29
      Quote: SarS
      It would be sacred, they wouldn’t put so many weapons into Azerbaijan.

      It’s not us, that’s how the Yankees would have filled Azeris; a holy place doesn’t exist empty.
      1. +2
        25 October 2015 19: 25
        not Azeris but Azerbaijanis.
    3. +3
      25 October 2015 13: 35
      Quote: SarS
      It would be sacred, they wouldn’t put so many weapons into Azerbaijan.

      Aizers also did a good deed by signing an agreement on the construction of an over-the-horizon radar
      1. +1
        25 October 2015 15: 16
        Quote: Tusv
        contract for the construction of an over-the-horizon radar

        It seems that they will build (18-20 months) instead of the Gabala "Daryal" radar early warning system of high factory readiness "Voronezh". So, there was no talk of over-the-horizon radar.
    4. +3
      25 October 2015 19: 24
      I believe that Azerbaijan is no less important for Russia than Armenia. and do not put someone above others. it is necessary to build mutually respectful relations with everyone equally.
      1. -1
        25 October 2015 22: 18
        It is not very clear why they clung to Armenia like that. The costs are obvious. And what are the benefits of it?
  7. 0
    25 October 2015 13: 14
    400 will put ????
  8. +3
    25 October 2015 13: 14
    We defer the protection of our borders and at the same time strengthen our interests in the former republics.
  9. +3
    25 October 2015 13: 15
    Of course, you need to cover your allies with an air defense umbrella.
    1. +1
      25 October 2015 13: 31
      Quote: A1L9E4K9S
      Of course, you need to cover your allies with an air defense umbrella.

      Thereby and yourself.
  10. yan 2015
    +1
    25 October 2015 13: 20
    if you are a friend of an ally. then you have to be him to the end. and not bargain for friendship and relationships .. like some leaders.
  11. -2
    25 October 2015 13: 23
    You could wait and organize about in Syria, otherwise the Armenians take a lot for rent, I know I came across in Sochi.
    Although there they have a radar, he sees far far
    1. vex
      +5
      25 October 2015 15: 43
      As far as I know, Russia does not pay for the rental of bases in Armenia, there is an agreement on this. On the contrary, the Armenian side takes part of the costs, because the bases guarantee the country's security.
      Quote: Mercury
      I know in Sochi

      What did you encounter? With an expensive Armenian rental? Is Sochi no longer Russian territory?
  12. +3
    25 October 2015 13: 28
    On Wednesday, it became known that Russia and Belarus will also create a unified air defense system by 2018.
  13. 0
    25 October 2015 13: 32
    Quote: Civil
    General military command is needed.

    while the NATO block will settle all the questions among ourselves, our operation is at the completion stage
  14. avt
    +1
    25 October 2015 13: 34
    Quote: sl22277
    On Wednesday, it became known that Russia and Belarus will also create a unified air defense system by 2018.

    laughing And what about the base for the Russian Air Force? laughingAgain, who knew that? Well, But father in the know? And then again he will say that no one discussed this issue with him.
    1. +2
      25 October 2015 13: 42
      Quote: avt
      Quote: sl22277
      On Wednesday, it became known that Russia and Belarus will also create a unified air defense system by 2018.

      laughing And what about the base for the Russian Air Force? laughingAgain, who knew that? Well, But father in the know? And then again he will say that no one discussed this issue with him.

      We’ll deal with the Old Man, don’t worry .. (we’ll buy potatoes, etc.))) In fact, this system is in Belarus ... hi
      1. avt
        +2
        25 October 2015 14: 20
        Quote: MIKHAN
        ) In fact, this system is in Belarus ...

        And why is she there? Here's something besides batskin's chants - "We will protect you, you have nothing in the West." Can you give a specific one? Can you give something similar at least to NORAD USA and Canada as an example? Here's something that tells me that no, well there is nothing but the vrt of these shamanic incantations that everything will be within the framework of the "sayuznago state" here and at every kilometer of the CSTO.
        1. +1
          25 October 2015 14: 28
          Quote: avt
          Quote: MIKHAN
          ) In fact, this system is in Belarus ...

          And why is she there? Here's something besides batskin's chants - "We will protect you, you have nothing in the West." Can you give a specific one? Can you give something similar at least to NORAD USA and Canada as an example? Here's something that tells me that no, well there is nothing but the vrt of these shamanic incantations that everything will be within the framework of the "sayuznago state" here and at every kilometer of the CSTO.

          The roads are aerodromes, for example ...! .. Well, the forests are dense .. bully What else do you need? hi
          1. avt
            +2
            25 October 2015 15: 55
            Quote: MIKHAN
            What else do you need?

            We need what I am constantly talking about - a unified air defense system needs a unified command with the obligatory execution of the orders given by ALL, including the national units. How much can you repeat in the end?
            Quote: MIKHAN
            The roads are aerodromes, for example ...! .. Well, the forests are dense ..

            Yeah! Avono how! This is how oaks-sorcerers began to follow orders to be along roads and runways .... wassatThe minus is not mine but I already want to admit it. So I’ll go from the branch away from sin ...
            1. 0
              25 October 2015 19: 08
              Quote: avt

              We need what I am constantly talking about - a unified air defense system needs a unified command with the obligatory execution of the orders given by ALL, including the national units. How much can you repeat in the end?

              A single air defense consists of several single air defense:
              1) Minsk-Moscow - a separate single air defense with a command post?
              2) Astana-Moscow is a separate air defense with a command post in Almaty.
              3) Is Yerevan-Moscow a separate single air defense with a command post?
              There will not be a single literally one command post - for each direction there will be its own separate command post.
    2. 0
      25 October 2015 15: 02
      http://polit.ru/news/2015/10/23/airdefense/

      http://polit.ru/news/2015/10/21/zapad2017/
  15. +6
    25 October 2015 13: 39
    Such complexes will cover, besides Armenia, and the floor of Turkey. So that the Janissaries do not really flirt with the "Ottoman Empire".
    1. +2
      25 October 2015 17: 48
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Such complexes will cover, besides Armenia, and the floor of Turkey. So that the Janissaries do not really flirt with the "Ottoman Empire".

      They have already played too much. From childhood, they drive into their heads that the Russians always wanted to cut out the whole world. They are white fluffy, they only suffered and cried from our attacks.
  16. +2
    25 October 2015 13: 50
    To begin with a tracking-detection station and short-range air defense systems to protect them.
    It’s getting better and more reliable that trying to stir up something like that with azeri.
  17. +1
    25 October 2015 13: 59
    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: SarS
    It would be sacred, they wouldn’t put so many weapons into Azerbaijan.

    Aizers also did a good deed by signing an agreement on the construction of an over-the-horizon radar

    Which one? Or do you all remember your intentions to build a new radar there instead of the Gabala?

    Quote: Mercury
    Although there they have a radar, he sees far far

    In Armenia? Are you kidding?

    Quote: meriem1
    400 will put ????

    No, immediately the S-600. Damn, we have not yet been rearmament, but we are going to deliver to someone else. Armenia has enough of what they have. And 5-8 S-300 divisions are enough for their eyes. I’m only afraid that the comrade will be right avt . National rulers will never agree to put their air defense under a single command with the priority execution of the commands of the Joint Air Defense Headquarters
  18. +3
    25 October 2015 14: 28
    Quote: MIKHAN
    We’ll deal with the Old Man, don’t worry .. (we’ll buy potatoes, etc.))) In fact, this system is in Belarus ..

    Yeah, we’ll buy potatoes, and we’ll stop buying MAZs for the Strategic Missile Forces. That's Old Man will be happy
    In fact, there is nothing but the Volga. And all these combined forces on paper. In the same Warsaw Pact, the decision of the Joint Command was binding on everyone. And the CIS Joint Commands are an amorphous structure. You will also remember the powerful structure of the CSTO, where everything rests on Russia, and from the side of other participants the contribution is a battalion ...

    Quote: Zomanus
    To begin with a tracking-detection station and short-range air defense systems to protect them.

    They already have them, as well as air defense systems of near radius. And to put something serious in the reach of tactical missiles from the adjacent side is already very wise
  19. +2
    25 October 2015 14: 37
    Our brothers are Christians. If something from the Caucasus cover.
    1. +3
      25 October 2015 14: 55
      Quote: BOB044
      Our brothers are Christians. If something from the Caucasus cover.

      They’ll be sure that they’ll be covered, otherwise there’s no way! hi
    2. 0
      25 October 2015 19: 46
      Actually, the Georgians are closer to Russians both by faith and everything else ... well, how did it end? It seems that no one here remembers how Hunchback was destroyed by the hands of the Armenians of the USSR ...
  20. +1
    25 October 2015 15: 23
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    No need: the second stage to the south is already under construction. But this is against ICBMs, and the "Container" must cope with Axes. The Armavir radar station closes the south-western direction, controlling the airspace from southern Europe to the northern coast of Africa; replaced the radar station "Dnepr" in Mukachevo and in Sevastopol. The second segment is planned, which will cover the area of ​​the Gabala radar station (south direction) (VIKI).

    Since April 2015, both stations (and the node in Armavir consists of two stations) are fully operational ...

    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    and the "Container" must cope with the Axes.

    Unfortunately, there is only one "container" so far and there will be as many as 10 of them .... so far only talk. But less long-range stations of this kind in combination with air defense detection stations would be more in demand ...
    Detecting low-flying Axes in Armenia? Well, I don’t know, one would have to be a fool to let them en masse through the mountainous republic ...
  21. +1
    25 October 2015 15: 41
    When ours stir up something, joint, with republics from the union, this news is always pleasing
  22. +5
    25 October 2015 15: 46
    friends friends
    but friends do not demand from tourists for crossing the border at 100 bucks for a car
    even rodents do not drill a penny
    and turkey too
    and the friends of Armenians take
  23. 0
    25 October 2015 18: 07
    It would not hurt us to have a ship of the Buyan-M project with Caliber. To stand in the middle of Lake Sevan, in general it would be super !!!!
  24. 0
    25 October 2015 18: 20
    Quote: artura0911
    It would not hurt us to have a ship of the Buyan-M project with Caliber. To stand in the middle of Lake Sevan, in general it would be super !!!!

    Drag on the hump? Maybe even suggest placing the same on Lake Ritsa ????
    1. 0
      26 October 2015 00: 33
      Quote: Old26
      Drag on the hump?

      How to deliver - you can come up with. We still have to do and do them for the navy, and already everyone wants to launch them in every lake. Well then, you just need a launcher on the pontoon, and in every body of water.
  25. 0
    25 October 2015 18: 37
    Quote: razzhivin
    Unfortunately, the United States understands this too ... It is not for nothing that the "opposition" is activated there ... The Armenians would not be smart enough to slip into the Ukrainian scenario ... Amerov's foundations have also been "working" with young people there for a long time ...

    They have been working for a long time, but the guys are smart enough, the mentality is different there. Armenians work a lot and know the value of money. since with Ukraine where they told how the Russians stole gas from them there will not be an option :) but in general you need to be brothers !!!
  26. +1
    25 October 2015 18: 46
    But Toporov launches are possible from the territory of the Emirates of Qatar and sea-based from the adjacent water areas. This direction is closing, and not necessarily the Kyrgyz Republic will fly through the mountains, although it may be so, but the option along the Georgian coast is possible. measures
  27. 0
    25 October 2015 18: 53
    All this so that the Turks did not rock the boat to Armenia
  28. 0
    25 October 2015 19: 24
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    Can i? - With a strong desire - they will fit in and there will still be a place! The length of the dimensions of the starter (PAD) will be adjusted to "one-two". Firing data input connectors? - it is also not a problem to put new ones or (combine / add / upgrade) existing ones.

    I disagree with you here, you are naval and probably remember the nuclear submarine 670 of the project (one of the most beloved + 705), well, in the early 90s we tried to "shove" 2 PU into 6 mines of the then unknown filling, we made revolvers. The order went away, shot something (the campaign was not entirely successful), Science CU gave new ones, the corps units were swearing, they altered something, in the end it did not work (((. The entire 670th series was scrapped. (The Nunn-Lugart program .Yolkin something turned over). Therefore, I judge, similar complexes on the operating nuclear submarines will not be changed yet.
  29. -1
    25 October 2015 20: 54
    I will answer all at once.
    The Armenian church broke away from Orthodoxy about 1500 years ago, Catholics 1000. Before these lovers, in their own way, believing in God was just one faith and a church. And so we had to call our faith somehow. They called it Orthodox because it has been observing everything as it should from the very first years. Christianity.
    As for the question about Sochi and the Armenians, I don’t have something against, even sometimes the Armenians behave better than some Russians, but this is a question of the rulers, because if the majority of foreigners, then after years it will be tempting to dominate.
    the rent was a joke
    1. +1
      26 October 2015 13: 59
      > The Armenian Church broke away from Orthodoxy for 1500 years

      purely formally, the Armenians, and many other Middle Eastern churches did not break away, for the most part they simply did not accept the new clarifying wording of one important theological issue and remained with the old wording. Wherein the old wording is still considered correct today, but the new one seems to be better and more accurate.

      The position of the Armenian Church in this matter comes down to the fact that one does not have to chase the exact wording too much, the whole way of life of the believer is more important. And the Armenian Church was not alone in this position.

      So, purely formally, the AAC did not chip away
  30. 0
    25 October 2015 21: 55
    We have no allies, only the Army and Navy, and if there is a conflict ... I do not believe that all of our allies will be for us!
  31. -1
    26 October 2015 00: 50
    How to disconnect so all the first and the Russians there spread rot to this day (Kazakhstan for example) disconnected well, and the flag in your hands and a drum on your neck. Do not whine and do not ask Russia to intercede, but I understand that we are defending ourselves on distant approaches and no more should be!
  32. +1
    28 October 2015 02: 57
    The border is guarded by Russian border guards. The sky is protected by Russian air defense. The guarantor of territorial integrity is the Russian base in Gyumri. laughing in a word outpost of Russia