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Agreement with Armenia on a joint air defense system approved and submitted for approval to the Russian president

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The Russian government approved the agreement with Armenia on the creation of a unified air defense system in the Caucasus region and will send it to Vladimir Putin for signature, reports RIA News message of the Cabinet.


Agreement with Armenia on a joint air defense system approved and submitted for approval to the Russian president


Prior to this, Pavel Kurachenko, Deputy Commander of the All-Union Military Space Council, reported on the completion of the procedure of intra-state approval of the project and its preparation for signing.

According to him, "at the moment Russia is working on the creation of the United regional air defense systems with Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan." As for Kazakhstan, an agreement on the air defense system was signed with him back in 2013.

“Adopt a draft decree of the government of the Russian Federation on this issue,” the press release says.
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Vasily Shaposhnikov / Kommersant
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 25 October 2015 13: 08 New
    +3
    Armenia is sacred for Russia! .. Let someone pimp ... bully
    They shoot at a tank bialton well ..! Experience is great .. hehe
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 25 October 2015 13: 13 New
      29
      A very necessary thing, the further we meet, the better for us.
      1. venaya
        venaya 25 October 2015 13: 23 New
        +8
        Quote: vovanpain
        A very necessary thing, the further we meet ...

        The matter is simply necessary, at least in one direction any reliability is outlined. I consider this a necessary initiative, this is not a trifle, it is a great reliability in our safety.
        1. Oper6300
          Oper6300 25 October 2015 14: 23 New
          25
          Erdogan anal pain laughing
        2. razzhivin
          razzhivin 25 October 2015 15: 45 New
          12
          К сожалению и США это понимают... Не зря там "оппозиция" активизируется... Хватило бы ума у армян не скатится до украинского сценария... Там амеровские фонды тоже давно с молодежью "работают"...
        3. Sterlya
          Sterlya 25 October 2015 16: 50 New
          +5
          Quote: venaya
          Quote: vovanpain
          A very necessary thing, the further we meet ...

          The matter is simply necessary, at least in one direction any reliability is outlined. I consider this a necessary initiative, this is not a trifle, it is a great reliability in our safety.

          Everything is so unstable in the former Union republics.
          The Naglosaks are waiting for the established presidents, under which these republics are friendly to Russia, will not be elected. There is no continuity of power, uncertainty. If not, wait for something? they will also invest worthless 1-2 billion dead presidents. And no, friendly, Former Union Republic. sad
      2. Alexey Boukin
        Alexey Boukin 25 October 2015 14: 02 New
        +3
        Жаль, что наши"узбекские товарищи" стоя в сторонке молча наблюдают. Не дай Бог, если "забурлит" Ферганская долина...
        1. razzhivin
          razzhivin 25 October 2015 15: 48 New
          +2
          They will soon begin to fight with their neighbors for water ... The population is growing (unlike Russia), but the water is no longer becoming ... Already cotton is no longer growing - it takes a lot of water ...
          1. Talgat
            Talgat 25 October 2015 18: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: razzhivin
            They will soon start fighting with their neighbors for water ..

            unfortunately you are right

            Сам президент Узбекистана Каримов давно "бьет в набат" что воды в СА не зватит и водяные войны уже реалия

            All this will not add peace to the southern borders of Kazakhstan - read the Eurasian Union

            I read that Nazarbayev was discussing with Putin the reanimation of the project of transferring the flow of northern rivers to the SA

            At one time, the USSR was going to do this, but then perestroika happened and then completely collapsed
            1. razzhivin
              razzhivin 25 October 2015 19: 27 New
              +2
              Главная проблема в том, что разучились договариваться... а без этого там никак... Во времена СССР все было построено на "перетоках" воды эл.энергии и тд. сейчас же ситуация усугубляется (население бурно растёт), а готовности договариваться мало - каждый одеяло на себя тянет... и США тут как тут...
            2. GSH-18
              GSH-18 25 October 2015 20: 32 New
              +2
              Quote: Talgat
              I read that Nazarbayev was discussing with Putin the reanimation of the project of transferring the flow of northern rivers to the SA

              At one time, the USSR was going to do this, but then perestroika happened and then completely collapsed

              Nitsche, but now in the framework of the Eurasian Union this thing will go faster yes
          2. Dry_T-50
            Dry_T-50 25 October 2015 22: 45 New
            0
            Quote: razzhivin
            They will soon begin to fight with their neighbors for water ... The population is growing (unlike Russia), but the water is no longer becoming ... Already cotton is no longer growing - it takes a lot of water ...

            You have outdated data about the demographic situation in Russia
        2. Alexander 67
          Alexander 67 26 October 2015 01: 11 New
          0
          Наши "узбекские товарищи",пока вероятно не чувствуют явной опасности. Узбекистан ,как член ОДКБ имеет возможность,при наличии внешнего вмешательства попросить помощи у этой организации. Так и сама организация ОДКБ,может вмешаться .И хотя Армения так же является членом ОДКБ. Однако Она не имеет прямых границ ни с одним членом этой организации.Отсюда вероятно т необходимость,размещать такие средства заранее.
    2. marlin1203
      marlin1203 25 October 2015 13: 16 New
      +2
      And what is the Armenian component of the joint air defense system? Cognac?.. laughing
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 25 October 2015 13: 45 New
        36
        Quote: marlin1203
        And what is the Armenian component of the joint air defense system? Cognac?..
        Territory! allowing you to detect much earlier the Axes invisible from our plain, hidden by mountains, raise the alarm, it may even bring down something ... Or did you forget that from ancient times in Russia there was a system of advanced outposts?
        Cognac? Well, that, too, will do!
        Ведь недаром "всему богатству выбора" У.Черчилль (граф Мальборо, между прочим!) предпочитал 3-х звездочный армянский! А уж он-то, как старый алкоголик, знал толк в этом деле! wink
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 25 October 2015 14: 49 New
          +3
          It seems to me that this is a guarantee that the conflict in the NKR will not spread to the territory of main Armenia. Those until the conflict in NKR spreads to the territory of Armenia itself, we can restrain the situation within the framework of a local conflict and not a full-fledged war between the two countries where we would be dragged. Plus, we entered into an agreement with Az-m on the construction of a radar there. So we will have our military facilities both in Armenia and on the territory. Thus, we will be able to detect a probable missile strike against us, including the Caspian flotilla, in advance and take measures.
        2. Victor bg
          Victor bg 25 October 2015 15: 27 New
          +4
          here not to take away, not to add .. (also an alcoholic, anonymous drinks )
      2. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 25 October 2015 13: 46 New
        +3
        No .. the territory for accommodation, then cognac (after arrangement).
        Quote: marlin1203
        And what is the Armenian component of the joint air defense system? Cognac?.. laughing
      3. marlin1203
        marlin1203 25 October 2015 16: 24 New
        0
        What about humor on the site, people ?!
        1. family tree
          family tree 25 October 2015 17: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: marlin1203
          What about humor on the site, people ?!
          No, humor, okay, you can put it off for later what About cognac would be more detailed, preferably belay
          1. Throw
            Throw 26 October 2015 05: 30 New
            0
            What a sense of humor, after Saturday, everyone has an otodnyak from Armenian cognac ...
      4. family tree
        family tree 25 October 2015 16: 59 New
        0
        Quote: marlin1203
        And what is the Armenian component of the joint air defense system? Cognac?.

        Cognac, also not bad, as an addition what Ask the Israelites why they grabbed the Golan Heights? And we ourselves are invited.
    3. Civil
      Civil 25 October 2015 13: 18 New
      +1
      General military command is needed.
      1. family tree
        family tree 25 October 2015 17: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: Civil
        General military command is needed.

        Yeah, Native American national hut! Whose complexes, he answers and commands, to the heap. Coordinators, with the right to advise where higher and how best to establish the supply, what And cognac too wink
    4. vyinemeynen
      vyinemeynen 25 October 2015 13: 19 New
      +8
      Полетали Турки над границей Армении (после "залета" наших в ВП турции в Сирии) и вот получи!
    5. Finches
      Finches 25 October 2015 13: 20 New
      +6
      Again Erdogan will be tormented by nightmares ... laughing
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 25 October 2015 13: 51 New
        +8
        Quote: Finches
        Again Erdogan will be tormented by nightmares ...

        Well, this is provided that instead of SAMs we put Caliber 400M-3s into the tubes. We won’t be original: the Yankees are trying to do the same trick with their Euro-ABM located in Poland or Romania.
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 25 October 2015 15: 02 New
          -10
          Do not shove the non-pushable. No, the truth, after the recent salute, many Uri-patriots decided that Caliber is such a universal wunderwafer that can solve all geopolitical issues, and which we have
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 25 October 2015 16: 57 New
            17
            Quote: Wiruz
            many urya patriots decided that Caliber is such a universal prodigy,
            Алексей, здравствуйте. Дайте внесем ясность. Отслужил 43 года на флоте (из них 10 -вне железной палубы), поэтому то, о чем пишу, имею некоторое представление. Шапку (чтобы забрасывать врагов) имел одну и ими не разбрасывался. Хоть и люблю мою страну, к "урякалкам" никогда не относился (можете посмотреть мои 5000 коментов). Поэтому ваш выпад не принимается.
            Now, the essence of the problem.
            I participated (at the dawn of this case) in the tests of tactical Caliber (Clab-S), so I know the TTX and MGX.
            I looked at the Triumph / Favorite, compared. It turns out: (3M-14 / 48N6E2) mass: 1770 / 1840kg; length: 6,20 / 7,5m; diameter: 0,514 / 0,519m.
            Total solids: калибр --легче, тоньше, короче, чем ЗУР. Ну, и что же здесь НЕВЛЕЗАЕМО? По диаметру? Так 533мм -- это диаметр капсулы для стрельбы из-под воды, а "голая" 3М14 -- 514мм! Так что, ваше
            Do not shove the non-pushable.
            - empty shake of the ATMOSPHERE!
            Another question: Does Triumph TPK need to charge 3M14? - No, it’s not necessary, not for that they were made.
            Can i? -- При большом желании -- влезут и еще место останется! Длину размерами стартовика (ПАД) отрегулируют на "раз-два".Разъемы ввода данных стрельбы? -- тоже не проблема поставить новые или (совместить/дополнить/модернизировать)уже имеющиеся.
            Is there any similar experience with am? On the Patriots, no, but in the mine-based missile defense system, instead of light interceptors, they tried to put heavy GBIs that can be used to shoot at ballistics for more than 500 km. Ours stopped this business.
            So, not everything secret becomes apparent at first sight. Sometimes you should take a closer look and spread your brains. (if they are, of course, in stock!) yes
        2. Finches
          Finches 25 October 2015 18: 17 New
          +1
          Why not!
        3. GSH-18
          GSH-18 25 October 2015 20: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: BoA KAA
          Quote: Finches
          Again Erdogan will be tormented by nightmares ...

          Well, this is provided that instead of SAMs we put Caliber 400M-3s into the tubes. We won’t be original: the Yankees are trying to do the same trick with their Euro-ABM located in Poland or Romania.

          Gee-gee. Tooting good
          Well, the current mattress will now experience .. opposition to its miraculous intentions, in the light of public statements and assessments of Vladimir Vladimirovich. And after the Caspian salvo and the success of the Russian Aerospace Forces, his words acquired unacceptably large weight in world diplomacy (the ruble, and it strengthens! belay )! The Americans generally went underground laughing good
    6. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 25 October 2015 13: 21 New
      +5
      The most radical-minded circles in Azerbaijan were saddened at once ..., a sore subject - Nagorno-Karabakh.
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik 25 October 2015 19: 33 New
        -1
        You are mistaken .... Everything has its time !!!
    7. igor1981
      igor1981 25 October 2015 13: 29 New
      13
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Armenia is sacred for Russia! ..


      Holy for Russia is Russia itself. And Armenia at this stage is an ally of Russia.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 25 October 2015 13: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: igor1981
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Armenia is sacred for Russia! ..


        Holy for Russia is Russia itself. And Armenia at this stage is an ally of Russia.

        Orthodoxy has been there for a long time! So we hold her .. hi
        1. sherp2015
          sherp2015 25 October 2015 22: 33 New
          0
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Orthodoxy has been there for a long time! So we hold her ..


          Did you notice that they are baptized like Catholics?
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 25 October 2015 20: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: igor1981
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Armenia is sacred for Russia! ..


        Holy for Russia is Russia itself. And Armenia at this stage is an ally of Russia.

        Usually WE never throw allies. Unlike naglosaksa.
        ====================================================================== =========
        England has no permanent allies. England has permanent interests. Churchill.
        And that's it hi
        1. family tree
          family tree 25 October 2015 22: 39 New
          0
          Quote: GSH-18
          Usually WE never throw allies. Unlike naglosaksa.

          Grumbling under his breath:
          "Кинь их, аль нас, предки проклянут. Сынка со срочки пришёл в беске с гюйсом, аэродром Рогачёвово, дежурка, морская авиация, у самого по инженерно-сапёрным, соплей, на кулак помотал what Вроде всё, кого кидать то, самого себя, что ли ча? Больше, вроде союзников нет "belay
    8. hydrox
      hydrox 25 October 2015 13: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: MIKHAN
      .Let somebody pimp ...


      Yes, Armenia receives a good umbrella, and it will be more convenient for us and to examine in more detail what is happening at Amer airbases Incirlik and Diyarbakir in Turkey.
      У "Армавира" рука удлиняется, глаз приближается...
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 25 October 2015 14: 14 New
        +4
        Quote: hydrox
        У "Армавира" рука удлиняется, глаз приближается...
        Are you really going to drag the Armavir-Voronezh-DM into the mountains of Ararat?bully
        Не нужно: уже строится вторая очередь на южное направление. Но это против МБР, а с Топорами "Контейнер" должен справиться. Армавирская же РЛС закрывает юго-западное направление, контролируя воздушное пространство от Южной Европы до северного побережья Африки; заменила РЛС «Днепр» в Мукачеве и в Севастополе. Планируется второй сегмент, который будет перекрывать зону Габалинской РЛС (южное направление).(ВИКИ).
    9. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 25 October 2015 23: 50 New
      -2
      Who told you that holy is Armenia for us? Even they, the Armenians, do not think so. This is just a necessary necessity.
  2. starriuy
    starriuy 25 October 2015 13: 08 New
    15
    Yes. The union needs to be revived ... at least for the time being ...
  3. avvg
    avvg 25 October 2015 13: 09 New
    +6
    A dining CIS air defense system would be appropriate and it would be cheaper.
    1. Eragon
      Eragon 25 October 2015 13: 20 New
      +7
      Quote: avvg
      Lunch air defense system must be created in all CIS countries, it will be cheaper.

      Так она и так создаётся. Возьмите циркуль и пройдитесь по карте. Гродно, Брест, Крым, пару точек в Армении, Казахстан. В перспективе Киргизия и Таджикистан, можно для прикидки и на них пару точек для циркуля найти. И покрутите кружочки, с радиусом этак 250-300 км. Весьма приятная картинка получается. Некоторая брешь на месте Украины, но, думаю, через 3-4 годика и она "затянется".
      1. avt
        avt 25 October 2015 13: 40 New
        +2
        Quote: Eragon
        And so it is created. Take the compass and go around the map. Grodno, Brest, Crimea, a couple of points in Armenia, Kazakhstan

        What compass to take? Not a caliper by accident? laughing Here is one of the above that obeys ONE command and carries out the actual orders of this
        Quote: Civil
        General military command is needed.

        Is it actually created? National air defense and their units in the know? Well, and again - how is it with the base about which But father is not in the know? We are sure that en will be in the know about the unified command wassat
        Quote: avvg
        A dining CIS air defense system would be appropriate and it would be cheaper.

        It would be, no doubt. But national rulers will NEVER go to a single command with the obligatory execution of his orders subordinate to national air defense. And no one in their right mind and solid memory will steer Russian air defense in an ugly manner, whole horde.
        1. Eragon
          Eragon 25 October 2015 14: 31 New
          +4
          Quote: avt
          What compass to take? Not a caliper by accident?

          Слово "Штангенциркуль" произошло от немецкого "Stangenzirkel", что означает универсальный инструмент, пригодный для точных hole measurements, external and internal sizes of various objects.
          And how did you get them to draw circles?
          1. avt
            avt 25 October 2015 15: 51 New
            0
            Quote: Eragon
            And how did you get them to draw circles?

            Да точно так же как тут писающие от восторга по поводу разрекламированной,,единой ПВО" в виртуале реальные задачи ПВО уже порешали.
            1. Eragon
              Eragon 25 October 2015 16: 18 New
              +1
              Quote: avt
              Quote: Eragon
              And how did you get them to draw circles?

              Да точно так же как тут писающие от восторга по поводу разрекламированной,,единой ПВО" в виртуале реальные задачи ПВО уже порешали.

              Are you going to make pots? Omniscient, maybe you know the rank and surname of the commander of the combined air defense system of Russia and Belarus? There really is no system yet, its launch is scheduled for the end of the 2016 year, and the commander is already there. Approved and submitted by its subordinates.
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        2. xtur
          xtur 25 October 2015 15: 54 New
          +1
          >Но национальные правители НИКОГДА НЕ ПОЙДУТ на единое командование с обязательным исполнением его приказов подведомственным национальным ПВО.

          why do you think so ?

          В здравом уме, ни один руководитель Армении не позволит подчинить общему командованию сухопутные войска - после операции "Кольцо" на закате Советского Союза, после того, как советские войска всегда на несколько дней опаздывали защищать армянское население в Баку и Сумгаите это просто не возможно.

          But air defense is a completely different matter, there are options. But probably not earlier than the Russian Federation will restore order in its troops located in Armenia. So far, about once every six months / year, bloody emergencies occur - Permyakov is not the first case, he’s just the most egregious
          1. sherp2015
            sherp2015 25 October 2015 22: 39 New
            -1
            Quote: xtur
            after Soviet troops were always several days late to defend the Armenian population in Baku and Sumgait


            Is the army supposed to protect against internal unrest and bandits?
            Why then did the police and internal troops exist?
            The army has other tasks ...
      2. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 25 October 2015 14: 04 New
        +3
        Quote: Eragon
        можно для прикидки и на них пару точек для циркуля найти. И покрутите кружочки, с радиусом этак 250-300 км. Весьма приятная картинка получается. Некоторая брешь на месте Украины, но, думаю, через 3-4 годика и она "затянется".

        It is not necessary to look at the radius of the circle of the air defense cover, but at the diameter. S-400 can cover an 800 kilometer stretch.
      3. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 25 October 2015 22: 53 New
        -4
        Quote: Eragon
        Quote: avvg
        Lunch air defense system must be created in all CIS countries, it will be cheaper.

        Так она и так создаётся. Возьмите циркуль и пройдитесь по карте. Гродно, Брест, Крым, пару точек в Армении, Казахстан. В перспективе Киргизия и Таджикистан, можно для прикидки и на них пару точек для циркуля найти. И покрутите кружочки, с радиусом этак 250-300 км. Весьма приятная картинка получается. Некоторая брешь на месте Украины, но, думаю, через 3-4 годика и она "затянется".

        I think that through 3-4, a country like Russia simply will not exist. The Stalinists, instigated from overseas, will work hard, today he saw their crowing for the new GDP rating
  4. roskot
    roskot 25 October 2015 13: 11 New
    +4
    On the entire perimeter of the union from dishonesty we put a stockade with missiles. Let them slip into our garden.
  5. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 25 October 2015 13: 11 New
    +7
    Всё правильно. Верные шаги. Пора возвращаться в "сферу жизненных интересов России".
  6. Sars
    Sars 25 October 2015 13: 12 New
    +9
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Armenia is sacred for Russia! .. Let someone pimp ... bully

    It would be sacred, they wouldn’t put so many weapons into Azerbaijan.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 25 October 2015 13: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: SarS
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Armenia is sacred for Russia! .. Let someone pimp ... bully

      It would be sacred, they wouldn’t put so many weapons into Azerbaijan.

      Well, you bought it ..))) And they’re afraid to use it! bully Great plan was .... wassat
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik 25 October 2015 19: 36 New
        -1
        You are mistaken .... Everything has its time !!!
    2. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 25 October 2015 13: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: SarS
      It would be sacred, they wouldn’t put so many weapons into Azerbaijan.

      It’s not us, that’s how the Yankees would have filled Azeris; a holy place doesn’t exist empty.
      1. Russiamoy
        Russiamoy 25 October 2015 19: 25 New
        +2
        not Azeris but Azerbaijanis.
    3. Tusv
      Tusv 25 October 2015 13: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: SarS
      It would be sacred, they wouldn’t put so many weapons into Azerbaijan.

      Aizers also did a good deed by signing an agreement on the construction of an over-the-horizon radar
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 25 October 2015 15: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Tusv
        contract for the construction of an over-the-horizon radar

        Строить (18-20 месяцев) вроде бы будут вместо Габалинского "Дарьяла" РЛС СПРН высокой заводской готовности "Воронеж". Так что, о загоризонтной РЛС речи не было.
    4. Russiamoy
      Russiamoy 25 October 2015 19: 24 New
      +3
      I believe that Azerbaijan is no less important for Russia than Armenia. and do not put someone above others. it is necessary to build mutually respectful relations with everyone equally.
      1. SokolfromRussia
        SokolfromRussia 25 October 2015 22: 18 New
        -1
        It is not very clear why they clung to Armenia like that. The costs are obvious. And what are the benefits of it?
  7. meriem1
    meriem1 25 October 2015 13: 14 New
    0
    400 will put ????
  8. Teberii
    Teberii 25 October 2015 13: 14 New
    +3
    We defer the protection of our borders and at the same time strengthen our interests in the former republics.
  9. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 25 October 2015 13: 15 New
    +3
    Of course, you need to cover your allies with an air defense umbrella.
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 25 October 2015 13: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: A1L9E4K9S
      Of course, you need to cover your allies with an air defense umbrella.

      Thereby and yourself.
  10. yan 2015
    yan 2015 25 October 2015 13: 20 New
    +1
    if you are a friend of an ally. then you have to be him to the end. and not bargain for friendship and relationships .. like some leaders.
  11. Mercury
    Mercury 25 October 2015 13: 23 New
    -2
    You could wait and organize about in Syria, otherwise the Armenians take a lot for rent, I know I came across in Sochi.
    Although there they have a radar, he sees far far
    1. vex
      vex 25 October 2015 15: 43 New
      +5
      As far as I know, Russia does not pay for the rental of bases in Armenia, there is an agreement on this. On the contrary, the Armenian side takes part of the costs, because the bases guarantee the country's security.
      Quote: Mercury
      I know in Sochi

      С чем "сталкиволся"? С дорогой армянской арендой? Сочи уже не российская территория?
  12. sl22277
    sl22277 25 October 2015 13: 28 New
    +3
    On Wednesday, it became known that Russia and Belarus will also create a unified air defense system by 2018.
  13. grinyow.ivan
    grinyow.ivan 25 October 2015 13: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Civil
    General military command is needed.

    while the NATO block will settle all the questions among ourselves, our operation is at the completion stage
  14. avt
    avt 25 October 2015 13: 34 New
    +1
    Quote: sl22277
    On Wednesday, it became known that Russia and Belarus will also create a unified air defense system by 2018.

    laughing And what about the base for the Russian Air Force? laughingAgain, who knew that? Well, But father in the know? And then again he will say that no one discussed this issue with him.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 25 October 2015 13: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: avt
      Quote: sl22277
      On Wednesday, it became known that Russia and Belarus will also create a unified air defense system by 2018.

      laughing And what about the base for the Russian Air Force? laughingAgain, who knew that? Well, But father in the know? And then again he will say that no one discussed this issue with him.

      We’ll deal with the Old Man, don’t worry .. (we’ll buy potatoes, etc.))) In fact, this system is in Belarus ... hi
      1. avt
        avt 25 October 2015 14: 20 New
        +2
        Quote: MIKHAN
        ) In fact, this system is in Belarus ...

        А по какой ссути она там есть ? Вот что то кроме бацкиных речевок -,,Мы вас засщищаем, у вас же ничего на Западе нет." Можно привести конкретное ? Вот что нибудь аналогичное хотя бы НОРАД USA и КанадЫ можете привести в пример ? Вот что то мне подсказывает что нет , ну нет ничего кроме врт этих шаманских заклинаний что вот вот и все будет в рамках ,,саюзнаго гасударства" здесь и на каждом километре ОДКБ.
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 25 October 2015 14: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: avt
          Quote: MIKHAN
          ) In fact, this system is in Belarus ...

          А по какой ссути она там есть ? Вот что то кроме бацкиных речевок -,,Мы вас засщищаем, у вас же ничего на Западе нет." Можно привести конкретное ? Вот что нибудь аналогичное хотя бы НОРАД USA и КанадЫ можете привести в пример ? Вот что то мне подсказывает что нет , ну нет ничего кроме врт этих шаманских заклинаний что вот вот и все будет в рамках ,,саюзнаго гасударства" здесь и на каждом километре ОДКБ.

          The roads are aerodromes, for example ...! .. Well, the forests are dense .. bully What else do you need? hi
          1. avt
            avt 25 October 2015 15: 55 New
            +2
            Quote: MIKHAN
            What else do you need?

            We need what I am constantly talking about - a unified air defense system needs a unified command with the obligatory execution of the orders given by ALL, including the national units. How much can you repeat in the end?
            Quote: MIKHAN
            The roads are aerodromes, for example ...! .. Well, the forests are dense ..

            Yeah! Avono how! This is how oaks-sorcerers began to follow orders to be along roads and runways .... wassatThe minus is not mine but I already want to admit it. So I’ll go from the branch away from sin ...
            1. Lindon
              Lindon 25 October 2015 19: 08 New
              0
              Quote: avt

              We need what I am constantly talking about - a unified air defense system needs a unified command with the obligatory execution of the orders given by ALL, including the national units. How much can you repeat in the end?

              A single air defense consists of several single air defense:
              1) Minsk-Moscow - a separate single air defense with a command post?
              2) Astana-Moscow is a separate air defense with a command post in Almaty.
              3) Is Yerevan-Moscow a separate single air defense with a command post?
              There will not be a single literally one command post - for each direction there will be its own separate command post.
    2. sl22277
      sl22277 25 October 2015 15: 02 New
      0
      http://polit.ru/news/2015/10/23/airdefense/

      http://polit.ru/news/2015/10/21/zapad2017/
  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 October 2015 13: 39 New
    +6
    Такие комплексы прикроют, кроме Армении, и пол Турции. Чтобы янычары не очень заигрывались в "Османскую империю".
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 25 October 2015 17: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Такие комплексы прикроют, кроме Армении, и пол Турции. Чтобы янычары не очень заигрывались в "Османскую империю".

      They have already played too much. From childhood, they drive into their heads that the Russians always wanted to cut out the whole world. They are white fluffy, they only suffered and cried from our attacks.
  16. Zomanus
    Zomanus 25 October 2015 13: 50 New
    +2
    To begin with a tracking-detection station and short-range air defense systems to protect them.
    It’s getting better and more reliable that trying to stir up something like that with azeri.
  17. Old26
    Old26 25 October 2015 13: 59 New
    +1
    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: SarS
    It would be sacred, they wouldn’t put so many weapons into Azerbaijan.

    Aizers also did a good deed by signing an agreement on the construction of an over-the-horizon radar

    Which one? Or do you all remember your intentions to build a new radar there instead of the Gabala?

    Quote: Mercury
    Although there they have a radar, he sees far far

    In Armenia? Are you kidding?

    Quote: meriem1
    400 will put ????

    No, immediately the S-600. Damn, we have not yet been rearmament, but we are going to deliver to someone else. Armenia has enough of what they have. And 5-8 S-300 divisions are enough for their eyes. I’m only afraid that the comrade will be right avt . National rulers will never agree to put their air defense under a single command with the priority execution of the commands of the Joint Air Defense Headquarters
  18. Old26
    Old26 25 October 2015 14: 28 New
    +3
    Quote: MIKHAN
    We’ll deal with the Old Man, don’t worry .. (we’ll buy potatoes, etc.))) In fact, this system is in Belarus ..

    Yeah, we’ll buy potatoes, and we’ll stop buying MAZs for the Strategic Missile Forces. That's Old Man will be happy
    По сути ничего кроме "Волги" там нет. И все эти объединенные силы на бумаге. В том же Варшавском договоре, решение Объединенного командования было обязательным для всех. А Объединенные командования СНГ - аморфная структура. Вы еще вспомните мощную структуру ОДКБ, где все держится на России, а со стороны других участников вклад - батальон...

    Quote: Zomanus
    To begin with a tracking-detection station and short-range air defense systems to protect them.

    They already have them, as well as air defense systems of near radius. And to put something serious in the reach of tactical missiles from the adjacent side is already very wise
  19. BOB044
    BOB044 25 October 2015 14: 37 New
    +2
    Our brothers are Christians. If something from the Caucasus cover.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 25 October 2015 14: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: BOB044
      Our brothers are Christians. If something from the Caucasus cover.

      They’ll be sure that they’ll be covered, otherwise there’s no way! hi
    2. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik 25 October 2015 19: 46 New
      0
      Actually, the Georgians are closer to Russians both by faith and everything else ... well, how did it end? It seems that no one here remembers how Hunchback was destroyed by the hands of the Armenians of the USSR ...
  20. Old26
    Old26 25 October 2015 15: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    Не нужно: уже строится вторая очередь на южное направление. Но это против МБР, а с Топорами "Контейнер" должен справиться. Армавирская же РЛС закрывает юго-западное направление, контролируя воздушное пространство от Южной Европы до северного побережья Африки; заменила РЛС «Днепр» в Мукачеве и в Севастополе. Планируется второй сегмент, который будет перекрывать зону Габалинской РЛС (южное направление).(ВИКИ).

    Since April 2015, both stations (and the node in Armavir consists of two stations) are fully operational ...

    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    а с Топорами "Контейнер" должен справиться.

    "Контейнер" к сожалению пока только один и разговоры, что их будет аж 10.... пока только разговоры. А вот менее дальнобойные станции такого рода в сочетании со станциями обнаружения ПВО были бы более востребованы...
    Обнаруживать низколетящие "Топоры" на территории Армении? Ну не знаю, надо было бы дураком быть, чтобы пускать их массово через горную республику...
  21. atlantida04
    atlantida04 25 October 2015 15: 41 New
    +1
    When ours stir up something, joint, with republics from the union, this news is always pleasing
  22. cte-power
    cte-power 25 October 2015 15: 46 New
    +5
    friends friends
    but friends do not demand from tourists for crossing the border at 100 bucks for a car
    even rodents do not drill a penny
    and turkey too
    and the friends of Armenians take
  23. artura0911
    artura0911 25 October 2015 18: 07 New
    0
    It would not hurt us to have a ship of the Buyan-M project with Caliber. To stand in the middle of Lake Sevan, in general it would be super !!!!
  24. Old26
    Old26 25 October 2015 18: 20 New
    0
    Quote: artura0911
    It would not hurt us to have a ship of the Buyan-M project with Caliber. To stand in the middle of Lake Sevan, in general it would be super !!!!

    Drag on the hump? Maybe even suggest placing the same on Lake Ritsa ????
    1. Manul
      Manul 26 October 2015 00: 33 New
      0
      Quote: Old26
      Drag on the hump?

      How to deliver - you can come up with. We still have to do and do them for the navy, and already everyone wants to launch them in every lake. Well then, you just need a launcher on the pontoon, and in every body of water.
  25. valsh
    valsh 25 October 2015 18: 37 New
    0
    Quote: razzhivin
    К сожалению и США это понимают... Не зря там "оппозиция" активизируется... Хватило бы ума у армян не скатится до украинского сценария... Там амеровские фонды тоже давно с молодежью "работают"...

    They have been working for a long time, but the guys are smart enough, the mentality is different there. Armenians work a lot and know the value of money. since with Ukraine where they told how the Russians stole gas from them there will not be an option :) but in general you need to be brothers !!!
  26. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 25 October 2015 18: 46 New
    +1
    But Toporov launches are possible from the territory of the Emirates of Qatar and sea-based from the adjacent water areas. This direction is closing, and not necessarily the Kyrgyz Republic will fly through the mountains, although it may be so, but the option along the Georgian coast is possible. measures
  27. Mjohn
    Mjohn 25 October 2015 18: 53 New
    0
    All this so that the Turks did not rock the boat to Armenia
  28. VALERIK_097
    VALERIK_097 25 October 2015 19: 24 New
    0
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    А можно? -- При большом желании -- влезут и еще место останется! Длину размерами стартовика (ПАД) отрегулируют на "раз-два".Разъёмы ввода данных стрельбы? -- тоже не проблема поставить новые или (совместить/дополнить/модернизировать)уже имеющиеся.

    Здесь с Вами не соглашусь,Вы же флотский и наверно помните АПЛ 670 проекта(один из самых любимых+705),ну так вот -в начале 90-х пытались мы "впихнуть" в 2 шахты 6 ПУ неизвестной тогда начинки,револьверы сделали.Заказ уходил,что-то отстреливал(походу, не совсем удачно),Наука ЦУ новые выдавала,корпусники матерясь ,что-то переделывали,в итоге не получилось(((.Вся 670-я серия пошла в утиль.(Программа Нанна-Лугарта.Ёлкин что-б перевернулся).По сему сужу-аналогичные комплексы на действующих АПЛ пока менять не будут.
  29. Mercury
    Mercury 25 October 2015 20: 54 New
    -1
    I will answer all at once.
    The Armenian church broke away from Orthodoxy about 1500 years ago, Catholics 1000. Before these lovers, in their own way, believing in God was just one faith and a church. And so we had to call our faith somehow. They called it Orthodox because it has been observing everything as it should from the very first years. Christianity.
    As for the question about Sochi and the Armenians, I don’t have something against, even sometimes the Armenians behave better than some Russians, but this is a question of the rulers, because if the majority of foreigners, then after years it will be tempting to dominate.
    the rent was a joke
    1. xtur
      xtur 26 October 2015 13: 59 New
      +1
      >Армянская церковь откололась от Православия лет так 1500

      purely formally, the Armenians, and many other Middle Eastern churches did not break away, for the most part they simply did not accept the new clarifying wording of one important theological issue and remained with the old wording. Wherein the old wording is still considered correct today, but the new one seems to be better and more accurate.

      The position of the Armenian Church in this matter comes down to the fact that one does not have to chase the exact wording too much, the whole way of life of the believer is more important. And the Armenian Church was not alone in this position.

      So, purely formally, the AAC did not chip away
  30. red rocket
    red rocket 25 October 2015 21: 55 New
    0
    We have no allies, only the Army and Navy, and if there is a conflict ... I do not believe that all of our allies will be for us!
  31. reactivnyi
    reactivnyi 26 October 2015 00: 50 New
    -1
    How to disconnect so all the first and the Russians there spread rot to this day (Kazakhstan for example) disconnected well, and the flag in your hands and a drum on your neck. Do not whine and do not ask Russia to intercede, but I understand that we are defending ourselves on distant approaches and no more should be!
  32. uranium
    uranium 28 October 2015 02: 57 New
    +1
    The border is guarded by Russian border guards. The sky is protected by Russian air defense. The guarantor of territorial integrity is the Russian base in Gyumri. laughing in a word outpost of Russia