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Chief of Staff of the US Navy: because of the threat from the Russian Federation, the NATO fleet must reconsider

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Increased Russian activity fleet and “other threats” should be the basis for the Alliance’s revision of its naval strategy, said recently the head of the US Navy John Richardson.




"Russia has demonstrated an increase in skill in managing its ships, as well as a desire to resort to methods of military coercion," the newspaper quotes Richardson. Look. - Their combat activity has grown to a level that we have not seen for more than ten years. The level of their training is growing. "

“A lot has changed in connection with the Russian threat, with migration problems, with the development of information systems, so perhaps the time has come to revise NATO’s maritime strategy and see if it is adequate against the background of the complex problems we are dealing with”
he said.

According to the admiral, NATO and the EU should strengthen coordination and more effectively use the forces of their fleets.

“You need to make sure that certain ships are used for the missions most suitable for them, and also that a ship is occupied by several tasks at the same time,” said Richardson. “For example, a ship tracking illegal migrants can also report on the Russian presence in the Mediterranean.”

“Without well-coordinated actions by the EU and NATO, neither the migration issue nor the containment issue of Russia will be solved effectively,” the admiral added.
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  1. PN
    PN 25 October 2015 11: 16
    +17
    We relaxed during the absence of the Russian fleet in the waters of the oceans. Old sea wolves retired, and young ones are just starting to meet with us, they are afraid of a little.
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      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 25 October 2015 11: 32
        +3
        And they must be able to shout in Russian: "I HAVE TO HAVE!" (Vasily Alibabaevich, feature film "Good luck gentlemen.")

        PS: My advice to the Amerignans on revising the strategy, in response to Fashington's statement that Russian pilots must know the English language in order to "normally" "communicate" with Ameripedes!

        + must know the phrases, raising the legs up:
        Obama - Kirdyk!
        By analogy with "Hitler - Kaput!"
        1. kepmor
          kepmor 25 October 2015 13: 03
          +27
          Well kapets, "urapatriotic" diarrhea poured from all the cracks! My friends, why did you do a lobotomy with a ship's ladle? Why did you squeal like that? Damn, I forgot completely, the states are crap and are in a dying convulsion! Then for the gifted:
          -just Obama rejected the draft 2016 military budget. Something needs to be done ...
          -Our "calibers" to them, like "manna from heaven" in this situation. Although they would not exist, they would still find a reason to snatch more dough from the printing press!
          -they are not afraid of our fleet-there is really no reason for today. Look at least at the numerical ratio of the ship composition, weapons, basing system and logistic support between the Russian Federation and the USA. A terrifying "oil painting" for us and rainbow for them looms! And you are Hitler Kaput, Hitler Kaput!
          Yes, and these Yankees are 100% sure that we will not be the first to go to them, we also do not need this "to hell"!
          Better when they are not afraid, but respected. And before that, we still have to plow and plow ...
          1. Mikhail Krapivin
            Mikhail Krapivin 25 October 2015 15: 05
            +5
            Not optimistic, but fair.
          2. Terner38
            Terner38 25 October 2015 23: 03
            0
            This admiral is not talking about quantity, but about the quality of use. Russians have always had - "not by number, but by skill!" And they will always piss, even 1 to 10 with a real opponent.
          3. Sea Wolf
            Sea Wolf 26 October 2015 07: 45
            0
            Correctly written. We still have to plow and plow. See the operations of the fleet in the Great Patriotic War. Not impressive. And the actions of German submariners are impressive. That's who you had to learn from. And the commanders were there, you can say the boys. The training system and everything. Everything is set too much for reporting.
      2. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 25 October 2015 11: 33
        -3
        It is time for the American fleets to keep far from the shores of the Russian Federation. And don't try to get close. The hour is uneven and drown accidentally.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 25 October 2015 11: 48
          +2
          Quote: oleg-gr
          The hour is uneven and drown accidentally.


          They will certainly be drowned, and it is no coincidence that they just need to rock the boat for this.
          How do we now need a dozen two frigates with a margin of 200 calibers each, of which a dozen in the Black Sea!
          1. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 25 October 2015 13: 44
            +5
            Well .. for 200 Caliber you can’t install it on any frigate, even a cruiser .. But a dozen or two frigates are clearly not enough, given the fact that the delivery of the constructed ones was slowed down due to the absence. I think it will take three years .. Almost from scratch production must be built, and victorious exclamations will not help here.
            Quote: hydrox
            Quote: oleg-gr
            The hour is uneven and drown accidentally.


            They will certainly be drowned, and it is no coincidence that they just need to rock the boat for this.
            How do we now need a dozen two frigates with a margin of 200 calibers each, of which a dozen in the Black Sea!
      3. hydrox
        hydrox 25 October 2015 11: 44
        -2
        Quote: Oleg Chertkov
        Strategy in the sense - is it time to ... get away? I think yes.


        After the salute of the Caliber, the Americans were the first to understand this and the State aircraft carrier flew from the Persian Gulf with wind speed.
        But the Euro-NATO fleets have nowhere to go, they are ALL under the gun of our Mediterranean naval group, in addition reinforced by the Black Hole submarines, armed with the Caliber ...
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        1. veksha50
          veksha50 25 October 2015 12: 06
          0
          Quote: redeemer
          it seemed to me alone that this is egg-laying ???



          Um ... I, too, looking at his neck and stamen, that is, the head, thought about the same ...
      5. zanoza
        zanoza 25 October 2015 14: 14
        0
        Due to increasing threats from the NATO Navy and NATO overall, we have redefined our strategy on land, on water, and in the air.
        Get used to it!We won’t give a descent!
      6. Sterlya
        Sterlya 25 October 2015 18: 11
        +2
        Not. Amers need to spend at least 10 trillion dollars on ships to be able to withstand the Russians.
        And at least 100 trillion to create the Death Star. (Russia is already creating!)
        And all this is urgent, in the next 2 years. No other way.
        This is how you need to troll the mattresses approximately wassat (roughly, roughly) And not by concern about the amount of funding for the Pentagon (which is bigger than the rest of the world) and all that garbage. (there will be no dollar export, Will they be able to contain 3 aircraft carriers? If they still can’t buy all the Brains? from all over the world?) And don’t tell me the American economy. It is built on the scalps of the Indians. Native Americans. (Capitalized America, it's just a continent.)
        And then they invaded Iraq, Afghanistan.
        It's like an egg (which may not hatch, it teaches a chicken). Usa is the same egg. But Washington must be destroyed anyway, deserved it. And it will be destroyed. (not literally, but in the sense that they should live as they deserve. Although they would gladly erase both you and me)
      7. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 25 October 2015 18: 24
        +2
        Quote: Oleg Chertkov
        Strategy in the sense

        view on the preparation for conducting v / m activities in peacetime and wartime.
        And the essence of everything said is in these words of the admiral:
        Now is the time redefine NATO's naval strategy and understand whether it is adequate against the background of the complex of problems with which we are dealing
        Note, not the strategy of the US Navy "From the sea against the coast", but NATO !!!
        I really want the Yankees to harness the allied armies' arms to the chariot race and shift the thankless mission of the shepherds of the RF ships to the adjacent waters on them.
        Let me explain my thought: the CNS (at best) will have time to make a sound, transmitting the coordinates of the target, and drown. But "shoot from afar", as always will be the Yankes. That's all for a short time. As the saying goes: who has a donut, and who has a donut hole ...
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 25 October 2015 11: 22
      +27
      Quote: PN
      We relaxed during the absence of the Russian fleet in the waters of the oceans. Old sea wolves retired, and young ones are just starting to meet with us, they are afraid of a little.

      So let them study. Our fleet will be older than the US state.
    3. Tor5
      Tor5 25 October 2015 11: 25
      0
      Mattress beds and others like them were craped around! And it’s good and right!
      1. Aleksandr72
        Aleksandr72 25 October 2015 11: 32
        +7
        The increased activity of the Russian fleet and "other threats" should be the basis for the North Atlantic Alliance to revise its naval strategy, said John Richardson, who recently headed the headquarters of the US Navy.

        Quote: Tor5
        Mattress beds and others like them were craped around! And it’s good and right!

        And all it took was one missile salvo of "Caliber-NK" from the ships of the Caspian flotilla. I can imagine the hysteria in NATO and Washington if the missile cruiser Moskva, or any other ship (capable of firing missiles at such a distance) from the Black Sea would fire a missile salvo at the Syrian terrorists.
        The time has come to remind that the Soviet naval flag was once seen in almost all points of the World Ocean. Let the flag now be Andreevsky, but the reaction of the "partners" to it is the same ... allergic. To loose stools.
        I have the honor.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 25 October 2015 11: 59
          +5
          Quote: Aleksandr72
          shoot missiles at such a range) from the Black Sea.


          RK Moscow is now in Tartus, there are ships armed with Caliber. RK Moscow, unfortunately, is armed only with Bazalt SCRC and cannot work on ground targets (unless, of course, it was rearmament (Caliber was also anti-ship missiles at first, but it turned out how it went - and how it went! laughing
      2. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 25 October 2015 11: 36
        +10
        The Northern Fleet has not yet said its word ...! Do not run into the USA ...
    4. Finches
      Finches 25 October 2015 12: 11
      +15
      A little joke, in which, as we know, there is always a fraction ... jokes! laughing
    5. marlin1203
      marlin1203 25 October 2015 12: 59
      0
      Immersion! .. urgent! .. all in all! .. laughing
    6. meriem1
      meriem1 25 October 2015 13: 18
      +1
      Quote: PN
      We relaxed during the absence of the Russian fleet in the waters of the oceans. Old sea wolves retired, and young ones are just starting to meet with us, they are afraid of a little.

      What are they not afraid of ??? About "BASTION" together with electronic warfare systems will be remembered, and questions arise. Everything is like a classic - "... And not somewhere, but in the eye, directing the barrel ......))) Onegin grabbed the Mensh ... a thought flashed, she will kill the fool ..."
      Donald Cook remembers everyone .....
  2. Federal
    Federal 25 October 2015 11: 17
    +16
    Spiders began to stir in the bank, something that NATO members were quickly beginning to see clearly, otherwise we were a regional power for them, and our economy was torn to shreds ...
  3. Vend
    Vend 25 October 2015 11: 17
    +2
    Much has changed in connection with the Russian threat, with migration problems, with the development of information systems, so maybe it's time to review NATO’s naval strategy and understand whether it is adequate against the background of the complex of problems we are dealing with, ”
    The strategy for the United States and NATO is the same, to put their vessels in ports for fun. And swim around the oceans, only in Hollywood action movies laughing But Russia does not threaten anyone. Fear has big eyes laughing
  4. Tusv
    Tusv 25 October 2015 11: 18
    +3
    Right. You need to walk at a safe distance for yourself, a thousand nautical miles.
  5. Theola
    Theola 25 October 2015 11: 20
    +7
    Check this out! It turns out we have a fleet! And they did not see! We already had a fleet when the USA was not in the project yet. Yes, not just a fleet, but one of the best in the world. Russian sailors are the pride of Russia for many centuries. And they did not see! Nothing. See more !!!
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 25 October 2015 11: 54
      +17
      Quote: FEOLA
      Check this out! It turns out we have a fleet! And they did not see! We already had a fleet when the USA was not in the project yet. Yes, not just a fleet, but one of the best in the world. Russian sailors are the pride of Russia for many centuries. And they did not see! Nothing. See more !!!

      I will answer in detail (to make it clear to everyone) ((this is not everyone's post, but just information for thought)) - to my great regret, having pumped the empire - with it we also lost the fleet, instead of a full-fledged ocean, we got a littoral offensive - google meaning). Before the war, nothing larger than a light cruiser was ever built. After the war, they began to revive the oceanic fleet, but everything always went with distortions, now in one, then in another. As a result, submarines (the number and variety of projects of which are still maddening) and anti-submarine ships "won". I will keep quiet about perestroika (here you also need to drink without clinking glasses).
      Modernity - sometimes happy, sometimes annoying. We still do not have full-fledged destroyers - all hope is for the Leader, but it does not exist yet, only layouts. The timing of the construction of frigates and corvettes is a little alarming, and the large landing ship is just frightening.
      Of course, there are reasons for everything, but honestly, we won’t be able to compete on an equal footing with the Yankees fleet - even with fantastic luck, in the case of full-fledged military operations at sea, we can destroy half of their fleet (once again, with fantastic luck), with us, only raid tugs will remain.
      About the rate of renewal of losses, and so it is clear - here it does not shine in principle.

      Everything written above does not in any way detract from the heroism of our sailors, no matter what flag they served under - the Soviet or Andreevsky (or both).
      It’s possible to enumerate our exploits indefinitely, but you will get an article and not a post.
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 25 October 2015 12: 08
        0
        Of course, there are reasons for everything, but honestly, we won’t be able to compete on an equal footing with the Yankees fleet - even with fantastic luck, in the case of full-fledged military operations at sea, we can destroy half of their fleet (once again, with fantastic luck), with us, only raid tugs will remain.


        It is quite possible that the United States is far ahead of the Russian Navy in the number of surface ships and submarines, but not in the quality of weapons and the morale of the crews. I have never met the crew of a Russian ship, frightened by an adversary, to write a letter of resignation. And on the tow you can install a container with "Calibers". So, you need to worry about the construction time of corvettes, but you should not assume that something significant will remain from the US fleet. No wonder these brave warriors strive to fight as part of blocs and coalitions ... soldier
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 25 October 2015 13: 22
          +3
          Quote: yuriy55
          It is quite possible that the United States is far ahead of the Russian Navy in the number of surface ships and submarines, but not in the quality of weapons and the morale of the crews. I have never met the crew of a Russian ship, frightened by an adversary, to write a letter of resignation. And on the tow you can install a container with "Calibers". So, you need to worry about the construction time of corvettes, but you should not assume that something significant will remain from the US fleet. No wonder these brave warriors strive to fight as part of blocs and coalitions ...


          You cannot win much on one spirit. Even without allies, the superiority in all types of ships is at least 1/3. (minimum) I will not comment on the reports - but there are different cases.
          If the tugs begin to put weapons - then the PP has already arrived.
        2. kepmor
          kepmor 25 October 2015 14: 03
          +7
          Yuri! As for the quality of weapons, talk to the "service navy class" -they will tell you the whole truth and tell you if the "fish soup" from the mat does not wrap up, there is the same situation as with the "quantity" What are you talking about if the production of domestic element base (chips and other parts) for radio electronics only started a couple of years ago?

          And you can put a container with "Caliber" on a cart with a mare - a shit question! But where to get so many of them?
        3. rumpeljschtizhen
          rumpeljschtizhen 25 October 2015 16: 06
          0
          It is quite possible that the United States is far ahead of the Russian Navy in the number of surface ships and submarines, but not in the quality of weapons and the morale of the crews. I have never met the crew of a Russian ship, frightened by an adversary, to write a letter of resignation. And on the tow you can install a container with "Calibers". So, you need to worry about the construction time of corvettes, but you should not assume that something significant will remain from the US fleet. No wonder these brave warriors strive to fight as part of blocs and coalitions ... soldier

          Ethodiagnosis urgently treated
      2. Altona
        Altona 25 October 2015 12: 18
        +2
        Quote: lelikas
        After the war, they began to revive the oceanic fleet, but everything always went with distortions, now in one, then in another. As a result, submarines (the number and variety of projects of which are still maddening) and anti-submarine ships "won". I will not say anything about perestroika (here you also have to drink without clinking glasses).
        Modernity - sometimes happy, sometimes annoying. We still do not have full-fledged destroyers - all hope is for the Leader, but it does not exist yet, only layouts. The timing of the construction of frigates and corvettes is a little alarming, and the large landing ship is just frightening.

        -----------------------
        Here you can agree with you, but it is the task of the country's leadership to develop a concept for the use of the fleet and what tasks it should solve. Also, apparently, there are no shipbuilding capacities for the construction of surface ships and units for them. Most of them were located in Ukraine. In general, with the development of the doctrine, it will be necessary to determine the class of ships and begin to build them, so that the weapons are not late on the platform, and the power plants would also be domestic ...
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 25 October 2015 13: 28
          +2
          Here it’s not even a matter of Ukraine’s absence — it has not been with us for 23 years.
          There were quite a few factories left - at the exit - no one scratched themselves.
      3. Theola
        Theola 25 October 2015 16: 42
        0
        Dear Lelikas! With the weapons that Russia currently has, only single ships that are not dangerous will remain from the aggressor fleet. A renewable song is long. These are not tanks. Even calibers are not needed. Non-nuclear high-precision long-range heavy-duty missiles were still under the USSR. And the carriers are TU-22M3. And not only them. And it’s not necessary to fly outside the country. But with the submarine fleet will have to tinker. That is yes. But in any version Tsushima will not. I mean the ratio of losses. I do not diminish the capabilities of the enemy, but I do not diminish my own. Ushakov fought like that.
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 25 October 2015 18: 19
          +4
          Quote: FEOLA
          With the weapons that Russia currently has, only single ships that are not dangerous will remain from the aggressor fleet.

          Only if the fleet "squeezes" to the bases, under the cover of the "umbrella" of air defense and coastal complexes. We are talking about the ocean fleet. Even if we take out of the brackets aircraft carriers (because we obviously do not have them) and nuclear submarines (let them deal with each other).
          Now we are bringing "our" combined squadron out to sea - let's say the leader will be "Peter the Great", with him in the order will go "Moscow" and "Varyag", a couple of "Saryches", a couple of "Frigates" pr. 1155 and the bonus of a couple of "Gorshkovs" (because he is still alone) - to them, for even counting, we will add something from the new "admiral's" series with the Black Sea Fleet - we get ten ships in the order.
          Against all this beauty (this is not sarcasm or turnover - they are all really beautiful), ten ugly Berks, armed with 50/50 missiles, are also opposed.
          Again, we assume that they discovered each other at the same time and then the actual naval battle begins - after launching anti-ship missiles from a maximum range of a dozen barrels, they will clearly select the targets, divide them among themselves and begin to destroy them systematically, without interfering with each other and not working as a single missile crowd , (perfectly) .
          We have similar (but weaker) squadron 4-5 of the newest ships, the rest will fight back "the old fashioned way." But the chances of the "Berks" are somewhere 3k1 against ours.
          Without bringing the matter to rams and artillery duels, very conditionally, not counting the misses and the fascinating struggle for survivability, we lost 8 ships, the Yankes five - despite the fact that we have almost a third of the combat-ready ocean fleet, and they have only "berks" "57 pieces will remain.

          Naturally, all this has been written with a pitchfork on water, but the ratio is approximately the same.
          1. Altona
            Altona 25 October 2015 18: 57
            +1
            It is found on the net ...

            Quote: lelikas
            Without bringing the matter to rams and artillery duels, very conditionally, not counting the misses and the fascinating struggle for survivability, we lost 8 ships, the Yankes five - despite the fact that we have almost a third of the combat-ready ocean fleet, and they have only "berks" "57 pieces will remain.

            -------------------
            In principle, it is described correctly, but so far the task of projecting force in the ocean is not posed ... As for Ukraine, this meant the power in Nikolaev, there is a hope that the southern underbelly of Ukraine will still break off following the example of Donbass, because you can only "jump" for a short period of time and then, only at a young age ...
            1. lelikas
              lelikas 25 October 2015 21: 30
              +1
              A good dem, but he perfectly illustrates what was said above - for the project of the late 60s - it was a wonderful ship, but now, he needs a very deep modernization. She’s worth a pyramid of antennas, and most of them are just from air defense systems, to clean it all up, to put 4 canvases of headlights - immediately the appearance will improve.
              Even if we somehow get the Nikolaev shipyard - there is practically nothing left - everything needs to be built in a new way.
  6. MDesant
    MDesant 25 October 2015 11: 20
    +3
    A warship moved slowly in dense fog. Suddenly, lights appeared ahead. The captain shouted loudly into a megaphone:
    - Get off course, you fools! This is the aircraft carrier "Saratoga" with a displacement of thirty thousand tons!
    An answer came from the fog:
    - Better roll yourself. This is a lighthouse.
    1. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 25 October 2015 12: 48
      +4
      The legend has been spreading on the Internet since 1995 under the guise of a real transcript of these negotiations published by the operational headquarters of the US Navy. However, there is no evidence that the event really took place, and the description itself is implausible for some reason [1]. Therefore, this story is considered an urban legend, as well as a variant of an earlier joke dating back to at least 1930 years [2]. The U.S. Navy posted a page refuting the story [3], which, however, did not stop former National Intelligence Director Mike McConnel from using it as a joke in his 2008 speech of the year. Other narrators often use this legend as a parable, showing the danger of inflexibility and a sense of self-importance or the need for situational awareness. In 2004, a Swedish company used story in a television script.

      This legend was also written by an American political scientist, professor at the University. C. Newport Quentin Kidd [4], she understood from the point of view of international law of the sea [5].

      Later, in particular, the Russian comedian Mikhail Zadornov narrated the legend in his monologues (Zadornov refers to Spaniards instead of Canadians, the rest of the details are generally repeated [6])
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 25 October 2015 19: 36
        +2
        KG_patriot_last
        Excuse me, are you against "Well, stupid"? ...
  7. Gor-1974
    Gor-1974 25 October 2015 11: 21
    +4
    NATO began to move, it only says that until recently, we were nothing at all, half a corpse. The first signs of life have just begun to show. As in the cartoon, "The patient is more alive than dead ..."
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 25 October 2015 11: 35
      +4
      Tired of it. Daily crap generals and admirals give money for armored vehicles (they have Armata), give money for missile defense (they have missiles), give money for the Air Force (they have new SU). Type he does not know (compared with them) that we have problems with the number of ships, both submarine, surface, and also auxiliary. They have the impression of thousands of generals and everyone is simply obliged to ask for money daily for a war with the Russians. If I were their president, he would have dispersed half of the Pentagon generals. Really the brain will endure.
  8. roskot
    roskot 25 October 2015 11: 25
    +3
    Some continuous concerns among the Americans. Partners, damn it.
  9. sl22277
    sl22277 25 October 2015 11: 33
    +4
    Where did you gentlemen see the threat from Russia? First of all, NATO is preparing for war with Russia, and not vice versa. Moscow only answers. Russia has never been aggressive towards NATO and has always been looking for contacts for joint cooperation. Moreover, Russia tried to ensure reliable security in Europe.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 25 October 2015 12: 10
      +1
      Yes! And where did the Kazzali see the threat?
      It's just that the situation has changed and Russia can afford to be anywhere in the world ocean if there are enemy ships within the reach of the Caliber. And if we decide to get involved in correcting the jambs of amersky avenue, then we will definitely do this in order to set an example to the world community: "Do not wallow, whores, on a star-striped bedding, otherwise we will" calibrate "as you have not yet gotten!
  10. raid14
    raid14 25 October 2015 11: 35
    +1
    Well reconsider your strategy. The new strategy of the US Navy will be "No more than three!"
    1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 25 October 2015 13: 30
      +1
      WHAT? One principle - gathered KODLO and the streets! Drunk feed rummage around! Lonely sober - LET SMOKE! Vobschem GOPOTA and mentality and reason!
  11. Simple
    Simple 25 October 2015 11: 35
    +2
    More than three are not going to.

    Smoke only at a combat post.

    All "mobiles" - overboard.
  12. Theola
    Theola 25 October 2015 11: 38
    +7
    The American admiral listens to the Colonel’s report: - The Russians again fired a volley of clubs that were Caliber.
    - I order an urgent dive.
    “So we're on a cruiser, sir!”
    - Then take off and go home.
    - Sir! We are on the cruiser!
    - Post a white flag and head for the Atlantic.
    - Already done sir!
  13. voyaka23
    voyaka23 25 October 2015 11: 39
    0
    There is one conclusion. 6 fleet about ... smiling !!!
    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 25 October 2015 13: 22
      +4
      Quote: voyaka23
      There is one conclusion. 6 fleet about ... smiling !!!


      I remember a joke from the 80s: "An urgent message - the American nuclear-powered aircraft carrier Enterprise immediately left the Mediterranean Sea. Its captain received a message that the Russian dry cargo ship Pyotr Vasev was sailing through the Bosphorus.
      (this is the one that drowned "Admiral Nakhimov" with a ram)
  14. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 25 October 2015 11: 39
    +3
    Quote: roskot
    Some continuous concerns among the Americans. Partners, damn it.


    How not to worry? One volley of "Calibers" from "Buyan-M", and there is no pair of AUGs. The asymmetric response is called. And what, then, is the real cost of a multi-billion dollar US navy?
  15. Mercury
    Mercury 25 October 2015 11: 41
    +10
    Yes, nothing new. They are horror stories about the great threat to American asses pumped bucks from taxpayers and stupidly increase the military budget
  16. BOB044
    BOB044 25 October 2015 11: 45
    +4
    “A lot has changed in connection with the Russian threat, with migration problems, with the development of information systems, so perhaps the time has come to revise NATO’s maritime strategy and see if it is adequate against the background of the complex problems we are dealing with”
    he said.
    Yes, Russia under Putin, this is not Russia under the drunkard Yeltsin. Russia is a powerful sea power and you will have to reckon with it. Now everything that NATO will do will be done with an eye on Russia. You will have to reckon whether you want it or not.
  17. Bird the Talker
    Bird the Talker 25 October 2015 11: 51
    +1
    You can do it. And so only the barking is inappropriate.
  18. pirate
    pirate 25 October 2015 12: 00
    +1
    Our path to reviving the army and navy has begun. Let the gentlemen of the Western "partners" now try to catch up with us. Yes, there is another snag, the spirit of our people is on the rise and we do not care what they say.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 25 October 2015 17: 48
      +1
      Quote: pirate
      Let the gentlemen of the Western "partners" now try to catch up with us.
      NOT a banter for the sake of: please, plz, in what they should catch up with us ??? belay
  19. am808s
    am808s 25 October 2015 12: 02
    +4
    What does this admiral remind me of a rabbit senya? Not a relative? lol
  20. veksha50
    veksha50 25 October 2015 12: 04
    +1
    "a ship tracking illegal migrants can also report on the Russian presence in the Mediterranean" ...

    um ... And who is worse for you - illegal migrants or Russian ships ??? You are not friends with the roof at all, Chief of Staff ???
  21. sabakina
    sabakina 25 October 2015 12: 08
    +7
    Have a fleet superior to the Russian one, at least in quantity, and write boiling water?
    Only now did the captains and crews of the Varyag and the Koreyets understand why they took that battle!
  22. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 October 2015 12: 11
    +2
    The new strategy of the NATO fleet - in the Black and Baltic Sea - do not enter, in the Red and Mediterranean - either, the North Atlantic - east of Iceland - no, no, then - to taste.
  23. yan 2015
    yan 2015 25 October 2015 12: 24
    +6
    my recommendations to the US Navy STAFF Headquarters .. remove all AUGs from the oceans. and keep your distance 2600 km from the nearest Russian Navy ship. in order to protect yourself from the unexpected in the form of Caliber-NK.
    1. Kuzyakin15
      Kuzyakin15 25 October 2015 20: 07
      0
      Quote: yan 2015
      my recommendations to the US Navy STAFF Headquarters .. remove all AUGs from the oceans. and keep your distance 2600 km from the nearest Russian Navy ship. in order to protect yourself from the unexpected in the form of Caliber-NK.

      In general, the PKR Caliber is pulled by 300km boats, and by 1600, this is on coastal targets.
      Ali I'm wrong about something?
      And you will scare ALL skippers that not a single ship will come not only to Russia, but in general will go around us for XNUMX miles. Then we’ll definitely be a land power. Or how will the Somalis chase the steamers and drive them to their ports.
  24. INF
    INF 25 October 2015 12: 27
    +1
    We will make a new strategy newer ... Bravo!
  25. gg.na
    gg.na 25 October 2015 12: 39
    +1
    Let them reconsider their strategy ... Rearm, etc. Only we have not shown all our capabilities, there is still something left in the stash! And this is something that will surpass all their re-equipment, re-equipment and so on and so forth, etc., etc. !!! What are we fools what fool whether to show everything at once ?! wink Let them look for fools !!! laughing
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  27. vitaliy.rnd
    vitaliy.rnd 25 October 2015 12: 49
    +2
    Well, not woodpeckers (the word "ypody" does not allow the system to repeat ) unprincipled? They surrounded us with their bases, and any of our actions enhancing the defense is immediately called the US threat.
  28. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 25 October 2015 13: 01
    +1
    A US officer attempted to explain American armored vehicles stuck in Portuguese sand with part of the Trident Juncture-2015 exercise plan.
    or slaughter or choke. Kids)))
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  29. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 25 October 2015 13: 21
    +2
    This "son of Richard", declaring "NATO and the EU", is trying to "lump everything together." What is NATO? Military-political bloc, aggressive military organization. What is the EU? ECONOMIC and political union. Well, I would call this "merikan" some other organizations from different spheres of human life, which, in his opinion, "must be made to act against Russia."
  30. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
    Vladimir Pozlnyakov 25 October 2015 14: 04
    +4
    25 years ago, two ships of the Black Sea Fleet of the USSR, patrolmen and "Selfless" and SKR-6 performed a feat that is still remembered in the naval world. In Soviet territorial waters, having exhausted the methods of influence and not being able to use weapons, the Black Sea men took an unprecedented step - a sea double ram. The missile cruiser Yorktown and the destroyer Karon entered the Black Sea from the direction of Sevastopol. The American duo of ships moved, squeezing into our territorial waters so demonstratively that any doubts about the good intentions of overseas visitors disappeared. "Selfless" (displacement 2,5 times less) almost climbed aboard the cruiser, demolishing the nearest superstructures, and at the stern demolished 4 containers with missiles .... The destroyer was struck by SKR-6. The Yankees left our waters terrified.
    ROCKETS, TORPEDAS ..... If necessary, there is still a TARAN!
  31. imugn
    imugn 25 October 2015 14: 26
    0
    The admiral has completely rolled off the coils
  32. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 25 October 2015 15: 12
    0
    And his view is unhealthy, similar to oncological. Probably the Russians are also to blame.
  33. SPB 1221
    SPB 1221 25 October 2015 15: 21
    +2
    Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
    25 years ago, two ships of the Black Sea Fleet of the USSR, patrolmen and "Selfless" and SKR-6 performed a feat that is still remembered in the naval world. In Soviet territorial waters, having exhausted the methods of influence and not being able to use weapons, the Black Sea men took an unprecedented step - a sea double ram. The missile cruiser Yorktown and the destroyer Karon entered the Black Sea from the direction of Sevastopol. The American duo of ships moved, squeezing into our territorial waters so demonstratively that any doubts about the good intentions of overseas visitors disappeared. "Selfless" (displacement 2,5 times less) almost climbed aboard the cruiser, demolishing the nearest superstructures, and at the stern demolished 4 containers with missiles .... The destroyer was struck by SKR-6. The Yankees left our waters terrified.
    ROCKETS, TORPEDAS ..... If necessary, there is still a TARAN!


    In the Naval world they remember a lot! At that time I studied at the P.S. Nakhimov and on board were cadets of the school who were undergoing training. I don't think that when a naval officer (I beg your pardon) all officers of any kind of troops fulfill their oath with dignity and this should be called a feat! Remember the film "OFFICERS", there are good words: "There is such a profession, to defend the Motherland" And if you choose such a profession, you are not performing a feat, YOU are defending the Motherland !!! This is a daily job.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 25 October 2015 16: 00
      +1
      I saw these footage, it looks like they were filmed from the bridge of "Selfless". It was strong and in all seriousness, but then ... Until now, the dispute about the 12-20 mile zone has not been resolved ... Well, it was resolved differently.
      “You need to make sure that one or another ship is used for the missions most suitable for them, and also that a ship is busy with several tasks at once,” Richardson said. “For example, a ship tracking down illegal migrants can also report on Russia's presence in the Mediterranean.”
      Correctly!!! The aircraft carrier strike group should recount refugees ... it’s better at the port of arrival (after all, Russians don’t shoot at civilians), and if God forbid Russians notice, then immediately report ... on command ... so that we can use karate No. 99 - exhausting the enemy by running.
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  35. Samarin
    Samarin 25 October 2015 16: 12
    0
    Quote: hydrox
    Quote: oleg-gr
    The hour is uneven and drown accidentally.


    They will certainly be drowned, and it is no coincidence that they just need to rock the boat for this.
    How do we now need a dozen two frigates with a margin of 200 calibers each, of which a dozen in the Black Sea!

    So there are no more Caliber, all 26 pieces of ISIS released.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 25 October 2015 18: 12
      +2
      Quote: Samarin
      So there are no more Caliber, all 26 pieces of ISIS released.

      What are you saying! But can you count? And do you know the multiplication table?
      Well, then here's the challenge for you, according to your level of development:
      given to: 4 RTOs, in each BC 8 units 3M14, 26 units flew out.
      to find: how many rockets left?
      One assumption is possible: on board each RTO was 1 UDR - to check the complex. But this is unlikely, because Now the products arrive in transport containers filled with nitrogen, with a shelf life of 10 years (or maybe more).
      Well, does the solution agree with the answer? quartet!
      PS. Amer’s satellites note the consistent approach of RTOs to the arsenal pier with an intensity of 8 hours of daylight.
      "And you say, PAVLINES!" (from)
  36. Vadim12
    Vadim12 25 October 2015 16: 19
    +1
    Offers the wrong strategy. The best and safest option for the states is to sit quietly on their island and not go into other people's affairs, especially in the affairs of Russia. In addition, a favorable option for the US budget.
  37. SIMM
    SIMM 25 October 2015 18: 09
    0
    Quote: kepmor

    Better when they are not afraid, but respected. And before that, we still have to plow and plow ...

    Respecting without fear - it was in kindergarten. In politics, they do not respect ANYTHING if they are not afraid!
    Do you respect Burundi a lot? Maybe until they get in your way ...
  38. Samarin
    Samarin 25 October 2015 18: 33
    0
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    given: 4 RTOs, in each BC 8 units 3M14, 26 units flew out.
    find: how many missiles are left?

    That is, as many as 6 pieces left? belay
    (for information - multiplied by the calculator)
  39. Prisoner
    Prisoner 25 October 2015 18: 36
    0
    Of course you need to change. Each has two life jackets, pull them on, and then sit on the pier and sniff at both holes.
  40. slava5553
    slava5553 25 October 2015 18: 45
    +1
    I got used to pin-ups without striking back, and then, as if evil, the Russian fleet began to spread its wings while awakening. And they can answer adequately, well, how to fight here, it is urgent to change the strategy. It only helps them, I think not. Their mentality is different, but they cannot be reforged overnight.
  41. demandy1
    demandy1 25 October 2015 19: 16
    +2
    Change tactics for sure! If earlier the Yankees had orders not to enter the zone of defeat of the Russian missile cruisers, now even gunboats will be scared.
  42. lecturer
    lecturer 25 October 2015 21: 44
    +1
    US Navy recently led John Richardson
    - reminds me of a cormorant ...
  43. Shurik70
    Shurik70 25 October 2015 22: 10
    +1
    Oh well...
    The Americans themselves are laughing at their own army, realizing that all this only drank money.
    Here's a caricature. Caption: "Vladimir, you look ridiculous."
  44. Platonich
    Platonich 26 October 2015 06: 46
    -1
    Guys! Do not overestimate yourself and underestimate the enemy! In 1941, we also flew farthest and above all! And then they got it at their most reluctant. So, while the US army is the strongest and largest in the world! And do not forget this !!!