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Syrian-Ukrainian Gambit

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With the advent of Russian videoconferencing in the sky of Syria, the “big game” of Russia and America continues simultaneously at two sites: the Syrian and the Ukrainian. They will certainly be interconnected: as it goes around comes around on one, it will respond to another. The projection of power by Russia, speaking in the language of our likely adversary, to Syria, swift, powerful and calibrated, came as a complete surprise to Washington, such that the Western press was enraptured with rage.




Moreover, Washington does not know what to do, because now it knows about the capabilities of Caliber cruise missiles. In addition, in Syria, Russia has found a common language with Iran, and Washington has nothing to oppose such a bundle with. His entire coalition from the 59 countries is not worth Iran alone, ready to fight in Syria not in word but in deed.

Putin’s recent meeting with Syrian President Assad has elicited many comments, generally true, that Moscow is raising the status of Bashar Assad and rejecting his “villainous” cliches. This is a clear allusion to Washington, who is the real villain in the world.

However, we can add that recently, at the UN General Assembly, Obama met with Poroshenko, and Putin, with his unexpected meeting, as if equated Assad with Poroshenko. Moscow clearly connects the figures of the Syrian and Bandera presidents, and hints that Poroshenko could become for Moscow what Assad is for the United States ...

The same can be said about the “no-fly zones” or “security zones” in Syria: the same zones may appear tomorrow in the former Ukraine. If the US’s legitimacy of Assad is doubtful, then tomorrow Poroshenko’s legitimacy may raise doubts on Russia, and on the same grounds: committing massacres as a result of the use of the army against civilians in south-eastern Ukraine.

And the day after tomorrow, the legitimacy of Erdogan in Turkey and Salman in Saudi Arabia may be called into question: relying on the American experience, it is not difficult to find a reason for this. A volley of cruise missiles from the Caspian Sea showed unequivocally that Russia could calibrate anything in the Middle East. If there is a joint Information Center in Baghdad of Russia, Iraq and Iran, this is a completely new reality of the Middle East theater of possible military actions.

Americans have their own opportunities for the big game. First of all, this is the Kurdish card, which they are already trying to play: they are trying to use the Kurdish militia to attack the capital of ISIS Raqqu in Syria. Washington also oversees Kurds in Iraq. However, the Kurds consider Erdogan to be their main opponent, and the Turkish Armed Forces are frankly fighting the Turkish Labor Party of Kurdistan.

The American aircraft carrier Israel is still silent about ice, but it is silent cold: it has long been disapproving of the policy of the United States and Europe in the region.

What can the United States? They can throw Erdogan’s Turkey under the feet of the Kurds, because pro-American NGOs have recently tried to arrange a “spring” for him, and Washington has a replacement - the theologian Gülen, who is waiting for his time in Wisconsin. The United States seems to be staking the Kurds in the region, while Gülen is ready to treat the Kurdish issue with understanding, unlike Erdogan.

How it all ends, only Allah knows. For example, ISIS may end up in Istanbul. Incredible? However, the patronage of Turkey ISIL is beyond doubt, ISIS supplies oil to the Turks, and in return receives weapon and militant flows: they mainly go through Turkey.

Israeli media generally equals ISIS and Turkey. Then, if Erdogan feels the American threat behind the Kurds, the secret may become obvious, and he will go to an alliance with ISIS, for this ISIS it is enough to transform a little, condemning certain inhuman field commanders and replacing the caliph.

In general, a unique situation has developed: all parties to the conflict in the Middle East are at war on at least two fronts, and this makes the development of events unpredictable. However, the reliability of the coalition Russia-Syria-Iran-Iraq appears to be higher than the American one opposing it: the USA-Turkey-Saudi Arabia-Qatar.

For America, there is a great temptation to equalize Russia's activity in Syria by increasing tensions / rates at the Ukrainian site. 31 December 2015 of the year, Minsk-2 formally ends, and Poroshenko can lift the Minsk bonds from his legs and arms. Especially if such an unequivocal order comes from the US ambassador Jeffrey Payette.

In a recent interview with the BBC, Poroshenko, in general, repeated the State Department mantra: “Putin wants global instability, it is a challenge to the civilized world and to continue the scenario of exacerbating the situation.” And further connected the Crimea and the Donbass with Syria. Already ready to help America, what will they order?

One large provocation in Ukraine is enough, like the collapse of a Malaysian Boeing, and the truce may explode. For example, if an explosion occurs at one of the Ukrainian thermal power plants ... Anyway, there is not enough coal for them, and the equipment works at the technological limit.

In the Syrian deserts,
And in the Donetsk steppes,
The fate of the world
Swaying on the scales ...

"The West is the West,
East is East ”,
Russia between them
Thin walkway ...

The world is swinging on the bridge of this,
The gods decide what to do with the planet? ..
Sodom and Gomorrah bloom all over the world:
Look at the answer in the Old Testament ...
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  1. mig31
    mig31 26 October 2015 06: 58 New
    49
    As a witness and participant in the greatness of the USSR and the decline, as well as the fall of Russia, and the beginning of the revival since 1999, to this day, I will report to all of you - there is no other planet on earth than Russia advocating for world peace ...
    1. Finches
      Finches 26 October 2015 07: 36 New
      23
      Obama is a little straightforward, he has no experience in the KGB structures, where parquet has always been very slippery ... therefore, his adjusted moves on the geopolitical chessboard put him in a difficult position, but Obama has the first economy in the world, and the administration not only Psaki are sitting in the State Department, there are enough wolfhounds behind the scenes playing in the vastness of the globe, so everything is just beginning! Now we can’t retreat and concede nowhere and regardless of difficulties we must clearly make clear to the United States that Syria is not a bargaining chip, but Ukraine, This is not just a sphere of national interests, but our land!
      1. Victor Kamenev
        26 October 2015 07: 48 New
        +7
        Kerry told Lavrov about Obama: "Never mind." "Obama" is a conventional figure who is always "in touch." Washington is always late in making decisions, because until it is formed and it goes to Obama ... Amersky wolfhounds turn out to be puppies over and over again, all the press secretaries of the State Department after Psaki are the same Psaki ...
        1. Finches
          Finches 26 October 2015 08: 17 New
          11
          If it were as you say, then it would hardly have been such a situation as it is now! But for now, the fact remains - Ukraine, not in the plane of our influence, but completely controlled from Washington! Syria, yes, but Ukraine is for us a little more important ... So let's not underestimate the United States.
          1. veksha50
            veksha50 26 October 2015 15: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: Finches
            Ukraine is a little more important for us.



            The other day, Angela clearly hinted at Poroshenko that he would restore trade and economic ties with Russia ...

            PS I don’t know, he might not understand the hint ... Yes, to be honest, I didn’t even let him get close to any negotiations with Russia ...

            Negotiations with Russia can take place (this is purely in my personal vision) only after the change of all juntoral authorities and the coming to the helm and sail of sensible politicians ...
            1. Talgat
              Talgat 26 October 2015 16: 00 New
              +4
              All right Veksha

              I just wanted to remind everyone of the "ins and outs"

              This conflict is thousands of years old - "sea" against "land" - "sea" is the west - formerly the Crusaders - Livonians - Teutons - Napoleon Hitler, etc. - now the USA with Europe Saud Bearded men Japan, etc.
              Land - we are all "heartland" - before Atilla against Rome, Desht and Kipchak - the Golden Horde - tsarist Russia - USSR - then collapse and devastation - now the Eurasian Union is in the future

              In the days of the Golden Horde, by the way, the conflict in Ukraine would have ended in 2 weeks - the steppe cavalry would have gone to Poland (at the same time it would have chopped zheks) and vice versa. The same is true under Stalin, for example. In general, we are currently experiencing a difficult period
        2. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 26 October 2015 17: 43 New
          +1
          Otherwise, we didn’t know that the states are the Horns and Hooves office, and the prezik of this whole mess is just a zits-chairman ..


          Quote: Victor Kamenev
          Kerry told Lavrov about Obama: "Never mind." "Obama" is a conventional figure who is always "in touch." Washington is always late in making decisions, because until it is formed and it goes to Obama ... Amersky wolfhounds turn out to be puppies over and over again, all the press secretaries of the State Department after Psaki are the same Psaki ...
      2. Cynic
        Cynic 26 October 2015 07: 58 New
        +7
        Quote: Finches
        our land!


        Scythians

        Zillions - you. We - the darkness and darkness and darkness.
        Try, fight with us!
        Yes, we are Scythians! Yes, Asians - we,
        With slanted and greedy eyes!

        For you - centuries, for us - a single hour.
        We are like obedient slaves
        Holding a shield between two hostile races
        Mongols and Europe!

        Century, century your old horn forged
        And drowned out thunder, avalanches,
        And a wild fairy tale was a failure for you
        And Lisbon, and Messina!

        You looked east for hundreds of years
        Digging and melting our pearls
        And you, mocking, counted only the term,
        When to train cannon vents!

        Here - the time has come. Wings are beating trouble
        And every day resentment multiplies,
        And the day will come - there will be no trace
        From your Paestums, maybe!

        Oh, the old world! Until you perish,
        While you languish with sweet flour,
        Stop, wise as Oedipus,
        Before the Sphinx with an ancient mystery!

        Russia - Sphinx. Rejoicing and mourning
        And bleeding black blood,
        She looks, looks, looks at you.
        And with hatred, and with love! ...

        Yes, to love as much as our blood loves,
        None of you have loved for a long time!

        Forgot you, that in the world there is love,
        Which burns and kills!

        We love everything - and the heat of cold numbers,
        And the gift of divine visions,
        Everything is clear to us - and a sharp Gallic meaning,
        And the gloomy German genius ...

        We remember everything - hell streets of Paris,
        And the Venetian coolness,
        Lemon groves are a distant fragrance,
        And Cologne smoky bulks ...

        We love flesh - and its taste, and color,
        And the stuffy, mortal flesh smell ...
        Guilty if we crack your skeleton
        In the heavy, gentle paws?

        We used to get used to the bridle
        Playing horses zealous,
        Breaking horses with heavy sacra
        And pacify the slaves of the obstinate ...

        Come to us! From the horrors of war
        Come in peace hugs!
        Before it's too late - the old sword in the sheath,
        Comrades! We will become - brothers!

        And if not - we have nothing to lose,
        And we are not above treachery!
        Century, centuries you will be curse
        Sick later offspring!

        We are wide in the wilds and forests
        Before Europe, prigozhey
        Let's part! We will turn to you
        His Asian mug!

        Go all, go to the Urals!
        We clear the place of battle
        Steel machines, where the integral breathes,
        With the Mongolian wild horde!

        But we ourselves are no longer a shield to you,
        From now on, we will not enter the battle ourselves,
        We'll see how the mortal battle is boiling,
        With his narrow eyes.

        We will not move when the ferocious Hun
        In the pockets of corpses will fumble,
        Burn the city, and drive the herd into the church,
        And fry white brothers meat! ...

        For the last time - come to your senses, old world!
        On the fraternal feast of work and peace,
        The last time for a bright fraternal feast
        Cries the barbaric lyre!
        1. Finches
          Finches 26 October 2015 08: 12 New
          +5
          Block, as never before with this poem, is relevant!
        2. Victor Kamenev
          26 October 2015 08: 32 New
          10
          Prophetic verses ... They have already come to Europe to rummage through their pockets, and Russia really will not move to help: Europe itself has fenced off with sanctions and its "Crimean" accusations. Russia is leaving decaying Europe politically, and this will have very grave consequences for Europe, about which Jean-Claude Juncker is already howling ...
          1. veksha50
            veksha50 26 October 2015 15: 10 New
            +1
            Quote: Victor Kamenev
            what are already howling Jean-Claude Junkers ...



            Not only Juncker ... The "club" of fans of the decision to lift sanctions from Russia and resume cooperation with it is gradually expanding ...
      3. Penetrator
        Penetrator 26 October 2015 08: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Obama is a little straightforward ... and the administration and the State Department are not alone psaki, there are enough wolfhounds behind the scenes

        Do not find contradictions? Or Obama does not listen to experts and pursues US policy, as he personally pleases?
        1. Finches
          Finches 26 October 2015 09: 36 New
          +2
          No, I can’t find it! I think that now all external problems, as always before the US presidential election, have faded into the background - there is a behind-the-scenes struggle between donkeys and elephants, so no one is in a hurry to make sudden movements so as not to harm the election race. Why he wrote, there is still much to come!
          And the Kremlin needs to use this situation to assert its position in Syria, and even more so in Ukraine! And of course, let's admit that for the American establishment Ukraine is far from the first among interests, but the Middle East is serious!
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 26 October 2015 16: 07 New
            +3
            Quote: Finches
            donkey and elephant backstage

            Oh well _
    2. Madcape
      Madcape 26 October 2015 11: 41 New
      +3
      I am a villager. So, "from time immemorial" (after the Second World War) on the highest mountain (and we have several mountains nearby) the inscription "Peace to the world!" Is laid out with stones, which is regularly painted by caring residents and schoolchildren, including me. And this is a very sublime feeling!
  2. Mera joota
    Mera joota 26 October 2015 07: 03 New
    -35
    In general, a unique situation has developed: all parties to the conflict in the Middle East are at war on at least two fronts, and this makes the development of events unpredictable

    What else can you say. The unpredictability of events implies unpredictable consequences for all parties to the conflict. Therefore, Israel does not interfere in this mess.
    How can this end for us? Well, for a month, they may shout that the enemy is running, destroyed the next headquarters, etc., then this useless "novosiriyu" will be quietly curtailed because there is no point in it. Assad is unable to win even with the help of the IRGC, Hezbollah and Russian aviation.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      26 October 2015 07: 56 New
      +8
      Asad is the only one who is able to win, but his victory does not solve all problems, because the problems of BV are much greater than Syria. Hence the unpredictability, not only for Syria, but also for the entire BV, Europe and the USA. For Russia, to a lesser extent, because it is economically and energy independent of BV. And only benefit from a drop in oil production, for example, in the SA.
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 26 October 2015 09: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        To a lesser extent, for Russia, because it is economically and energetically independent of BV. And only benefit from a drop in oil production, for example, in CA.

        BV is a competitor of Russia in the supply of energy resources to Europe.
        1. The Chat
          The Chat 26 October 2015 10: 03 New
          0
          BV is a competitor of Russia in the supply of energy resources to Europe.

          And therefore, Russia "will only benefit from a drop in oil production, for example, in the SA"

          And therefore, and in the same way for many other reasons, we support, and we will support Assad.
          And he will undoubtedly win, although this victory is only a local episode in the "Big Game" ...
      2. Mera joota
        Mera joota 26 October 2015 11: 56 New
        0
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        Assad is the only one who can defeat

        And why then he did not win? Iran, hezbollah, Iraqi Shiites, Russia help him, but victory is not visible on the horizon.
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        And only benefit from a drop in oil production, for example, in CA.

        And why is it that the CA will drop oil production? There are no prerequisites for this. On the contrary, they are increasing volumes, and then Iranian oil is breaking into the market ...
      3. Are
        Are 26 October 2015 13: 57 New
        0
        Victory in Syria is just the beginning, then the rest of the supporters of the destruction of terrorists in the Middle East will "put in order" together with Russia. Such a sequence is somehow closer to me ... (the photo in the title of the article is like waiting for a holiday: now the tree will be dressed up and it will fly to hand out gifts) laughing )
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    3. Are
      Are 26 October 2015 13: 52 New
      0
      I am sure you are wrong .. soldier
      1. Mera joota
        Mera joota 26 October 2015 19: 35 New
        -1
        Quote: ARE
        I am sure you are wrong .. soldier

        Perhaps in January it will become clear ...
    4. Felix1
      Felix1 28 October 2015 08: 12 New
      0
      In the ten!
  3. slizhov
    slizhov 26 October 2015 07: 04 New
    +5
    This whole American coalition - The number of leaders of the countries ready to spit in the place where the Boss of the USA will show! And they are capable of all this until the time when the Force comes, which points the finger at the spit place and says: "LOOK !!!"
    And everyone will readily, without delay, run after a rag ...
  4. scientist
    scientist 26 October 2015 07: 17 New
    +6
    In vain the author speaks of unpredictability. Even according to Western analysts, the operation of Russia, respectively Iran and Iraq in Syria was planned for at least six months. I am sure that 99,9% of the scenarios were analyzed, modeled and calculated. This is not the case when Russia can afford to have an uncertainty factor behind its back.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      26 October 2015 08: 03 New
      +1
      The scientist should be aware of the principle of "falsifiability". Moreover, politics in the East is a delicate matter.
      And Russia's calculations are obvious: as we arrived, we will fly away, we will sail away on ships. But today "we must suffer", help Syria and Assad, who are also fighting for Russia, by and large ...
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 26 October 2015 07: 23 New
    +2
    The American aircraft carrier Israel is still silent about ice, but it is silent cold: it has long been disapproving of the policy of the United States and Europe in the region.


    Yes, ISRAEL is now in limbo ... where does the history bulldozer turn ... it’s dangerous to crush under it and will not notice.

    The recent intifada of Palestinians is a direct consequence of US policy in Syria .... and so will it be every time
    when WASHINGTON does not give a damn about countries in this explosive region pursuing its exclusive policy of war.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 26 October 2015 07: 55 New
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The recent intifada of Palestinians is a direct result of US policy in SYRIA ...

      thoughtfully. Well, what's the connection?
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 26 October 2015 08: 01 New
        +1
        thoughtfully. Well, what's the connection?

        What do you think the Palestinians just took the knives and ran to slaughter the Jews?

        I don’t see the US’s desire to resolve the conflict between Palestinians and Jews.

        They concentrated all their forces on efforts to overthrow ASAD ... here's a connection ...
        Well, various radical forces both inside the Palestine and Israel are ready to cut each other's throats
        and who will hold them back now?
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 26 October 2015 08: 19 New
          0
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          What do you think the Palestinians just took the knives and ran to slaughter the Jews?

          they had been doing that before.
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          They focused all their forces on the efforts to overthrow ASADA ... here's a connection ...

          huh? And I thought it was a sinful thing that stabbing was somehow connected with Al-Aks, like the second intifada. What does Assad have to do with it, dear?
        2. Penetrator
          Penetrator 26 October 2015 08: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          radical forces both inside Palestine and Israel are ready to gnaw each other's throats and who will restrain them now?

          And before, apparently, the US was holding back? Tell it to our Israeli friends ..
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 26 October 2015 07: 26 New
    +2
    The United States, apparently, make the main bet in the region on the Kurds... they don’t do it ... so, they play ...
  7. Professor
    Professor 26 October 2015 07: 53 New
    -12
    American Aircraft Carrier Israel

    The author tore off the cliché from "Japan is an unsinkable American aircraft carrier". But the trouble is, there is not a single American airfield and not a single American aircraft in Israel. stop
    1. Victor Kamenev
      26 October 2015 08: 18 New
      +8
      It is not necessary. When there is a "special relationship" and annual multi-billion dollar US aid. Zakovyka - what is the essence of these special relations, many people in the United States cannot understand either, therefore, indeed, the "Israeli aircraft carrier" of the United States is a somewhat conventional concept.
      The greatest danger for Israel comes from ... the United States, if suddenly they abandon their "aircraft carrier", indeed, without amerskih Phantoms.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 October 2015 08: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: Professor
      . But the trouble is, in Israel there is not a single American airfield and not a single American aircraft.

      And why else should you put around them full lol
      By the way, Israel condemned the destruction of the hospital in Afghanistan. Yesterday I forgot to ask
      1. Professor
        Professor 26 October 2015 08: 34 New
        -3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And why else should you put around them full

        And I about it. And here is Israel?

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        By the way, Israel condemned the destruction of the hospital in Afghanistan

        We have not been informed about this at all. Not to Afghanistan. Their children run with legs.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 26 October 2015 09: 43 New
          +3
          Quote: Professor
          We have not been informed about this at all.

          And rightly so, why is such a trifle.
          1. Professor
            Professor 26 October 2015 09: 47 New
            -2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And rightly so, why is such a trifle.

            Really a trifle. Have you been told how many people died in Africa over the past week? No. Why? And because there are things more relevant to you than Africa, for example Ukraine, yours in Syria and the USA’s failures. But here we have more relevant news is a new wave of terror. An hour and a half news release is mainly devoted to her. Not up to international news.
            1. andrewkor
              andrewkor 26 October 2015 18: 55 New
              +3
              return the Arab lands that the UN measured to them in 1948. at the division of Ottoman Palestine, and you will be happy.
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 26 October 2015 16: 10 New
          0
          Quote: Professor
          And here is Israel?

          Well, dear professor _
    3. scientist
      scientist 26 October 2015 08: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Professor
      Israel has not a single American airfield and not a single American aircraft.

      Why do we need planes and airfields when Israel receives military-financial assistance from the United States several times more than Israel's own defense budget? It's just that the United States takes into account the mentality of its puppets, someone thinks that bombs and planes solve all problems, and someone solves problems with money. It is only "fools" in Russia in the old fashioned way who first of all think about truth, honor and conscience.
      1. Professor
        Professor 26 October 2015 08: 48 New
        -10
        Quote: scientist
        Why do we need airplanes and airfields when Israel receives several times more military-financial assistance from the US than Israel’s defense budget?

        This is not true. Israel's annual military budget is $ 15 billion. US military assistance is much less.

        Quote: scientist
        It is only "fools" in Russia in the old fashioned way who first of all think about truth, honor and conscience.

        lol

        Quote: Riv
        Well, yes ... F-16s and A-4s, which are in service with the Israeli Air Force, are undoubtedly of local assembly, and their pilots were trained somewhere in Antarctica.

        A-4 in service with Israel? And why didn’t you remember the Messerschmitts?
        F-16 American production for which paid in full. Pilots are trained not in Antarctica, but not in the United States.

        However, in Israel there is not a single American airfield and not a single US Air Force aircraft.

        Israel has always been someone's six. Now the matter is that it will become Russian.

        Never was and never will be. And even more so Russian.
      2. Dan Slav
        Dan Slav 27 October 2015 00: 56 New
        0
        In a pair of Israel and the United States it is still unknown who whose puppet!
        Rather, the US puppet of Israel!
        Also with Britain. The rule of Britain has not yet been canceled, and there are centuries of experience in management here!
    4. Riv
      Riv 26 October 2015 08: 39 New
      +2
      Well, yes ... F-16s and A-4s, which are in service with the Israeli Air Force, are undoubtedly of local assembly, and their pilots were trained somewhere in Antarctica.
      Israel has always been someone's six. Now the matter is that it will become Russian.
    5. The Chat
      The Chat 26 October 2015 10: 06 New
      +5
      But the trouble is, in Israel there is not a single American airfield and not a single American aircraft.

      But there is a clear following in the wake of the American aircraft carrier. Although of course a grumbling about the mistakes of the owner is observed ....
    6. Cynic
      Cynic 26 October 2015 17: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Professor
      The author tore off the cliché from "Japan- ...

      Okinawa -... dear Professor Okinawa. Japan is already, in a sense, AUG.
  8. Das Boot
    Das Boot 26 October 2015 07: 54 New
    +2
    Moreover, Washington does not know what to do, because now it knows about the capabilities of Caliber cruise missiles.

    Again the caliber ... what kind of stupidity? The Yankees have already heard about its capabilities for three years. Enough already in place and out of place to stick it. Well, you didn’t scare America with caliber, no matter how you like it.
    1. Victor Kamenev
      26 October 2015 08: 11 New
      +2
      But American generals are very frightened, they say, we do not know how to catch "arrows", nobody is happy with NORAD. "Arrows" are American "calibers". Your stupidity smacks of ignorance, or misleading.
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 26 October 2015 09: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        Your stupidity gives away ignorance, or disinformation.

        well, of course. The fact that I do not let snot bubbles "Caiber buried the missile defense !!!" and I don’t consider him a wunderwaffe who plunged American generals into the most severe depression - from ignorance and disinformation. The "total triumph of Calibers" presented to the Russian audience, to put it mildly, is somewhat exaggerated.
        1. coconut
          coconut 26 October 2015 15: 28 New
          -2
          It is so exaggerated that we already hurried to remove the aircraft carrier from the Persian Gulf, for the first time since 2007.
          1. Das Boot
            Das Boot 26 October 2015 18: 09 New
            0
            Quote: kokos
            It is so exaggerated that we already hurried to remove the aircraft carrier from the Persian Gulf, for the first time since 2007.

            What is the connection with Caliber, dear? The States announced Roosevelt’s withdrawal planned for fall back in July-August.
        2. coconut
          coconut 26 October 2015 15: 28 New
          0
          It is so exaggerated that we already hurried to remove the aircraft carrier from the Persian Gulf, for the first time since 2007.
    2. The Chat
      The Chat 26 October 2015 10: 09 New
      0
      They didn’t scare me, but the whim was removed from the face - that's right ...
    3. Cynic
      Cynic 26 October 2015 17: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Das Boot
      Caliber again ... what a

      So I understand the caliber with the capital, it’s you on purpose. It even cringes from the little, little success of the Kyrgyz Republic?
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 26 October 2015 18: 54 New
        0
        Quote: Cynic
        It even cringes from the little, little success of the Kyrgyz Republic?

        I know where you are oppressed, but - no, you know, it doesn’t. And I feel pride. True, unlike the exalted Shi3 patriots - restrained. I guess that this does not fit into your idea of ​​patriotism. Alas, I will not help. Hoot further, to each his own.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 26 October 2015 19: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: Das Boot
          True, unlike the exalted Shi3 patriots - restrained.

          And this restraint means, is expressed in capitalization?
          Fresh tradition, but hard to believe.
          Quote: Das Boot
          I guess that ...

          Guesses on sin suggest.
  9. bya965
    bya965 26 October 2015 08: 00 New
    +1
    And, to me, somehow violet in the Old Testament. wink
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 October 2015 08: 09 New
    +3
    If they don't play the Kurdish card, they won't be in time! The time factor now determines everything. Syrian forces are rapidly "processing" ISIS resources into dust and sand. Their human resources are extremely small. The border with Turkey will be taken under control - and IS will run to Iraq. There are elections in Turkey. Erdogan may "lose legitimacy" altogether.
  11. cniza
    cniza 26 October 2015 08: 10 New
    +2
    The knot is still tied, the "game" will be long.
  12. Steppe
    Steppe 26 October 2015 09: 09 New
    0
    With whom we would not play a political "game", fight a discussion, etc. As a result, we are waging all this with the United States. Wouldn't it be easier to ruin the dollar for the US to cease to exist? I believe that if we manage to ruin the dollar, then there will be no problems with those to whom the United States pays money to screw us up.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 28 October 2015 02: 45 New
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      Quote: Steppe
      Wouldn't it be easier to ruin the dollar so that the US ceases to exist? I believe that if you manage to break up the dollar, there will be no problems with those to whom the United States pays money to trash us.

      The task of "destroying the dollar" is somewhat similar to "getting the moon from the sky." And with bare hands.

      Here is such a pichalka turns out ..
  13. Yurmix
    Yurmix 26 October 2015 09: 45 New
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    Quote: Das Boot
    The "total triumph of Calibers" presented to the Russian audience, to put it mildly, is somewhat exaggerated.
    However, I’m interested in what is an exaggeration? in flight range, exactly? and who is exaggerating?
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 26 October 2015 09: 59 New
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      Quote: YURMIX
      However, I’m interested in what is an exaggeration? in flight range, exactly? and who is exaggerating?

      I, it seems, made it clear - that URAcratic propaganda hastened to assign him the status of a superweapon.
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 26 October 2015 17: 24 New
        0
        And you are more comfortable with media reports in such an acceptance _
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 26 October 2015 18: 57 New
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          Quote: Cynic
          in such an acceptance

          Kamenoedov, is it you ???????????????
          I never thought that the dandruff administrator from Monday ... could be quoted on VO.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 26 October 2015 19: 32 New
            +1
            Quote: Das Boot
            the dandruff administrator from Monday ...

            Namely, that from "Monday", that's just quoting the Strugatskys. Can I also from "Fairy Tale ..." "Comprene wu"? wink
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 26 October 2015 17: 30 New
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      Quote: YURMIX
      However, I’m interested ...

      You better take an interest in the attitude to the supreme commander. I think a lot can be clarified after the answer.
  14. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 October 2015 10: 01 New
    +2
    and Putin, by his unexpected meeting, as if equated Assad with Poroshenko. Moscow clearly connects the figures of the Syrian and Bandera presidents, and hints that Poroshenko may become for Moscow what Assad is for the USA ...


    I really hope that this is the personal opinion of the author!
    Sorry, but there are no terms in international diplomacy, such as - "as it were", "hints" ...
    Everyone has the right to express their opinion, but it would be better if the author separated the flies from cutlets.
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  16. Finches
    Finches 26 October 2015 10: 21 New
    +2
    Quote: Mera Joota
    In general, a unique situation has developed: all parties to the conflict in the Middle East are at war on at least two fronts, and this makes the development of events unpredictable

    What else can you say. The unpredictability of events implies unpredictable consequences for all parties to the conflict. Therefore, Israel does not interfere in this mess.
    How can this end for us? Well, for a month, they may shout that the enemy is running, destroyed the next headquarters, etc., then this useless "novosiriyu" will be quietly curtailed because there is no point in it. Assad is unable to win even with the help of the IRGC, Hezbollah and Russian aviation.


    McCain ??? laughing
  17. Belousov
    Belousov 26 October 2015 10: 23 New
    0
    It’s clear that the matter is dark. Here the game is long, and apparently very long, for decades, too many employees have poured into hohlobanderostan and ISIS to allow them to fall apart without reaching their goals. And we do not have the spirit and economic ability to militarily finish everything at once. Here's a stalemate request
  18. misterwulf
    misterwulf 26 October 2015 11: 19 New
    0
    But, by the way, the topic of flight bans between Russia and Uiya on both sides has its positive aspects.
    This is, in fact, the "unmanned zone" now. And woe to those air carriers who decided to fly over Uiya! They will be to blame themselves. Well, and Uiya, of course.
  19. afrikanez
    afrikanez 26 October 2015 12: 00 New
    0
    Look at the answer in the Old Testament ...
    This is just for Americans, just a vital thing.
  20. ermolai
    ermolai 26 October 2015 15: 51 New
    0
    Quote: Belousov
    too much staff were poured into hohlobanderostan and ISIS to allow them to fall apart without reaching goals

    Well, water can be poured into the sieve endlessly, but they won’t bring a drop. The IHL is asked there for tougher, if anything, ax-head and relatives too. but nevertheless, the bearded flee shaving their beards on the go. but the problem is really for a long time.
  21. serverny
    serverny 26 October 2015 16: 54 New
    -1
    Quote: Professor
    Their children run with legs.

    Almost all reports are attacks with knives of desperate people. Or how the distraught crowd slaughter an innocent bystander to death just because he is not a Jew.

    Have you tried not to bomb residential areas for a couple of years at first (so that without thousands of dead civilians)? Well, or at least once to launch the investigation and punish those responsible, when once again a crowd of "unknowns" burns a Palestinian family with children in their own home?
    Have you tried to develop your own civil society to a level at which it rejects the ideas of apartheid and segregation that it lives by, and recognizes the Palestinians as equal people, not animals? Why, if a Palestinian violates the law, he is judged by a military court, and a civil court threatens a "purebred Jew" for the same gravity of a crime?

    Well, why talk about a "professor" who believes that Israel really decides something and conducts an independent foreign policy.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 26 October 2015 17: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: serverny
      Almost all reports are attacks with knives of desperate people.

      Yes? Describe in more detail the degree of despair of the pubertal knife-makers, please.
      Quote: serverny
      Well, why talk about a "professor" who believes that Israel really decides something and conducts an independent foreign policy.

      oh, what a pose. Judging by your comment from a Belarusian far away, Prof really will not humiliate himself before the conversation. And rightly so, by the way.
  22. Bayun
    Bayun 26 October 2015 21: 45 New
    +1
    As far as I understand, the number of Russian-speaking people fighting on the side of ISIS and Assad is approximately equal. Please note, ISIS extras are not fighting for money! These are Islamic Bolsheviks. 1: 1, like ours in 1917. Perhaps a sealed dip wagon with the world Leader of the Islamic Revolution is already ready in Germany. Patriotism is great, but the Russian Federation today is for the "whites".
  23. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 26 October 2015 22: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: Victor Kamenev
    And Russia's calculations are obvious: as we arrived, we will fly away, we will sail away on ships. But today "we must suffer", help Syria and Assad, who are also fighting for Russia, by and large ..

    This is only in case of unsuccessful completion (for us) of the war in Syria. Russia returned to BV, not only in order to extinguish the fire of war, but also to become a guarantor of further peace there and at the same time expand the possibilities of Russia's economic expansion in BV. Which will become beneficial for our economy and the economy of Syria and Iraq. In the military-technical aspect, this will moderate the possibility for the SGA to bully in BV, strengthen our defense potential, and so on. soldier