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Kabul needs urgent help



In Moscow 8 – 9 October 2015, the Russian Ministry of Defense held an International Conference on Afghanistan. It was attended by representatives of the highest command of the armed forces and political leadership of the countries - members of such associations as the SCO, CSTO, CIS, as well as a delegation from Kabul. This authoritative forum analyzed the current situation in Afghanistan and made its findings on its impact on security in Central Asia. The conference participants identified the activities of terrorists as a real threat to the established fragile peace in the region. In the welcoming speech of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Sergei Shoigu, the following words were said: “The increased activity of the emissaries of the so-called Islamic State in Afghanistan is of particular concern.”

CONCERNING THE RUSSIAN GENERAL STAFF


Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Valery Gerasimov, in his speech noted that “up to now, it has not been possible to form a stable balanced system of mutual security” In his speech, he also reported on forces opposing official Kabul and representing more than 4 thou. Disparate and different-sized combat organizations, groups, small detachments and estimated their total number at 50 thou fighters. According to Valery Gerasimov, "they are based on the Islamic Taliban movement numbering up to 40 thousand militants."

He also noted that “over the past year, activity in the country of the Islamic State international terrorist organization, banned on the territory of the Russian Federation, has increased sharply, which, in order to expand its sphere of influence and build an“ Islamic caliphate, ”is taking control of more and more new regions. According to our estimates, from 2 to 3 thousand IS fighters are in Afghanistan, and their numbers are constantly growing. ” Zamir Kabulov, Special Representative of the President of the Russian Federation for Afghanistan, Director of the Second Asian Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation: “A number of IS training centers are focused on training militants at the expense of immigrants from Central Asia and some regions of Russia. The working language in this so-called camp is Russian. ” Representative of Afghanistan, First Vice President Abdul Rashid Dostum, during a conference, asked the Russian authorities for military-technical assistance to his country, noting that Afghanistan was in need of aircraft weapons and ammunition for the effective fight against terrorism.

According to the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, “to stabilize the situation in Afghanistan and Central Asia, it is necessary: ​​firstly, to assist the leadership of Afghanistan and other Central Asian states in equipping and training security forces to increase the effectiveness of their actions against extremists; secondly, to maximize the use of all possible institutions to promote the socio-economic development of the countries of the region and to provide humanitarian assistance to the people of Afghanistan; thirdly, by joint efforts to cut off sources of financing, channels for the supply of weapons and material resources to extremist organizations operating in Afghanistan. ”

ALLIANCE PLANS


Back in May of this year, the head of NATO made a statement: "Further presence (NATO. -" NVO ") will be held under civilian leadership, but it will have a military component." Last week, US President Barack Obama, in the presence of the Vice President and two senior military leaders of the United States, announced in front of the cameras that the number of US troops in Afghanistan until the end of 2016 will remain the same as it is at the moment, that is, about 10 thousand. and later it is planned to reduce it to 5,5 thousand. As for the “subsequent one”, we can say that the US administration has repeatedly changed plans regarding the US military presence in Afghanistan. Germany also plans to extend indefinitely its military presence in Afghanistan.

WAR IN AFGHANIAN MOUNTAINS


Afghanistan occupies the middle territory in Central Asia; in ancient times, the southern flow of the Silk Road passed through it. It borders in the southeast with India, and these are disputed territories - the state of Jammu and Kashmir, where mainly Muslims live. In the south, Afghanistan borders with Islamic Pakistan, with Shiite Iran in the west, with Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan (whose population is predominantly Muslim) in the north and with China (Kashgar district, the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, inhabited by Muslim Uighurs) in the east. About 80% of the country's territory is mountains and mountain plateaus. Hence the features of Afghan ethnogenesis. The peoples living in this country are belligerent. For 35 years of the civil war, starting in the spring of 1978, local tribes have mastered guerrilla tactics well. They are fighting in the familiar mountains. And in the mountains it’s almost impossible to use armored vehicles, efficiency aviation significantly reduced. The Americans ironed the positions of the mujahideen not only in Tora Bora, using the most powerful BLU-82 bombs, but, as it turned out, with insignificant results.

The Hindu Kush mountain system crosses the whole of Afghanistan. In the north-east of the country rises the Wakhan Range. In the north-west stretched mountains Safedkoh. There are also the Middle Afghan mountains, whose name indicates what part of the country they occupy. And in these mountains only small, lightly armed infantry units are effectively fighting. And it is here that the strongest armies of the world can not oppose anything to the militarized formations of the Afghan Mujahideen. The most powerful of these is the Taliban movement; among others, the Jundalla group and the Vilayat Khorasan group (an IG unit in Afghanistan and Pakistan) can be distinguished.

PUSHTONA


In Afghanistan, Pashtuns are the titular nation and make up about 40% of the population, they are bilingual. The language of everyday communication is Pashto, the second language is Dari (Farsi dialect). Their religion is Sunni Islam, a Hanafi madhhab, but among the Pashtuns, as in the country as a whole, the Sufi Order of Tariqat Naqshbandi is very influential. The Pashtuns still maintain a tribal social organization, which includes three tribal unions (Durrani, Gilzai, Karlani), around 90 of large tribes (kaum) ruled by khans, they are composed of 400 clans (chel), which are divided into clans or families. At the head of each clan - the leader (Malik), the family - Spinzhirai (or aksakal). Each of the social entities has a council of elders (jirga) for judicial and other issues that require a collective decision.

The life of the Pashtuns is organized on the basis of the scriptures: the Koran, the Sunnah, and others, as well as fatwas issued by spiritual leaders. And, of course, the main law is the unwritten code of honor of Pashtuns - Pashtunvali. To be precise, Islam in this region has a very noticeable local connotation, the population of the region is very strongly tied to its traditions.

It cannot be said that the Pashtun tribes always get along with each other, there are known cases of armed conflict between them. Throughout the long storiessince 1747, the rulers — emirs, padishahs, or presidents — within the present borders of Afghanistan, with some minor and short-lived exceptions, were Pashtuns. Vivid examples from recent history. Afghan President Mohammed Daoud (July 1973-th - April 1978-th), the Mohammadzai tribe of Pashtun (the Durrani tribal alliance), first overthrew his fellow tribe and relative of the Padishah Mohammed Zakir Shah (bloodlessly), and then was displaced and killed, and Pashtun Nur Mohammad Taraki, representative of the Tarak tribe of the Gilzai tribal union, took his post. The latter, a year and a half later, was killed on the orders of another Pashtun Hafizullah Amin, a native of the same tribal union of shells, but from the Haruti tribe. The last head of the Soviet era Afghanistan Mohammad Najibullah - Pashtun kind of Ahmadzai tribe suleymanhel Ghilzai tribal union, was executed in 1996, the Pashtun Taliban as a traitor to his people, the most that neither is shameful for the Pashtun, the addition over his corpse and then abused.

TAJIKI, UZBEK, HAZARIANS AND PAMIRIANS


Tajiks - the second largest Afghan ethnic group, about 27% of the total Afghan population. The place of their dense settlement is the northeast of the country, but also they are located in small enclaves practically throughout the country. They speak Dari (Farsi dialect). For the most part they are Sunni, a small part - Shiites and Ismailis. This ethnos has had and still has a very strong cultural influence in Afghanistan. Dari is not only the language of interethnic communication, but also the language of culture, in her time she preferred to speak all know. Tajiks often held important government positions. The leader of the Tajik Mujahideen Ahmad Shah Masood at one time was too tough for not only Shuravi (Soviet troops), but also for the Taliban. The latter were forced to cowardly kill the “Panjshir lion,” bringing the suicide killer to him. Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras and Pamirians formed in their time a military alliance, known as the Northern Alliance, which successfully fought against the Taliban throughout the reign of the latter from 1996 to 2001 year. And the Tajik militia led by Ahmad Shah Masood was its basis.

Uzbeks make up about 9% of the population of Afghanistan, by religion they are Sunni Muslims, speak Turkic, Dari and Pashto. The main part lives in the north of the country, but there are enclaves in the south, mostly they are sedentary farmers or traders. This people, like the Tajiks, plays a prominent role in the life of the country. A prominent representative of this ethnos, General Abdul Rashid Dostum, in the period from 1979 to 1992, was a military leader year, fought on the side of the pro-Soviet forces. After the fall of the regime of Najibullah, Dostum went over to the side of the opposition, and with the actions of his troops a lot of “spoiled the blood” of the newly formed government and the militia groups of the Mujahideen who supported it. In 1996, Abdul Rashid Dostum became one of the leaders of the Northern Alliance and successfully fought against the Taliban.

The Hazaras are an Afghan nationality inhabiting the central regions of the country, there are about 9%, they are bilingual - they speak Dari and Hazara. They are considered descendants of the Mongol warriors of Genghis Khan. Shiite Islam is professed Islam, the Twelve (Isn'ashariya), the same trend that is now the state religion of Iran. The militia of this ethnos, led by Abdul Ali Mazari, began the struggle against the forces of the People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) in the 1978 year, even before the Soviet troops entered. After the withdrawal of the Shuravi, the Hazara militias joined the Northern Alliance, participated in the seizure of Kabul, and as part of the Alliance forces were in the Afghan capital until its occupation by the Taliban in 1996.

The fourth member of this alliance was the militia of the Pamir peoples, led by its leader Mansur Naderi. Pamirs live in the northeast of the country, in Afghan Badakhshan and adjacent territories. They are anthropologically heterogeneous, they speak Dari and the languages ​​of the Indo-Aryan group. By faith, they are Ismailis, representatives of this religious movement throughout the history of Islam, were persecuted by Sunni Muslims. If you believe numerous reference books, then Ismailism is a Shiite trend, but I trust the opinion of Lev Gumilyov on this subject, who defined this religious doctrine as gnostic, only outwardly similar to Islam, and ranked it as an anti-system. Before the NDPA came to power, the Pamirs lived apart, experiencing the oppression of the Pashtuns, and after the “Saur (April) revolution” of 1978, when their religious leaders were persecuted and took an active part in resisting the authorities of pro-Soviet Kabul.

THE LITTLE PEOPLE DON'T ASSIGN THE PUSHun


These include the Nuristanis (Aryan tribes) - the aborigines of the province of Kunar, the Highlanders, they speak in languages: Parsun, Kati, Ashkun, Vaygali, Tregami. The abundance of languages ​​is explained by the fact that societies are divided by mountain ranges. This sedentary people has long been famous for predatory raids on its neighbors. In the valleys of the Hindu Kush live Pashai, another unique people who speak the language of the Indo-Aryan group, as well as Pashto and Dari, lead a sedentary lifestyle, most of them Sunni and only a small part of them are Ismailis.

Turkmen and Charaymaks inhabit the north-west of Afghanistan, lead a semi-nomadic way of life, Sunnis. The first speak Turkic and Dari, the second Persian. Charaymakov’s representative, General Abdul Kadir, led the “united front of the Communists of Afghanistan” (OFKA), it is believed that he led the “Saur revolution” and then voluntarily transferred power into the hands of PDDP leaders Taraki and Karmal.

In the region adjacent to the border with China, inhabited by Afghan Kyrgyz. In the south-west of the country live Baluchi, a very militant people, whose lands are now divided between Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan. They speak Baluchi and are Sunni Muslims of the Hanafi madhhab. For more than 100 years, these people have been fighting for the creation of their state, the “Great Balochistan.”

RETROSPECTIVE



The backbone of the Taliban are Pashtuns from the union of the Durrani tribes. Reuters Photos

In the 1747 year, the general council of elders and elders of the Pashtun tribes (to Pashto sounds: “Loya Jirga”), which took place near Kandahar, was elected the ruler of the Afghan lands Akhmat Shah from the association of Durrani tribes, a kind of sadozaev. This militant Pushtun shahinshah managed to take control of not only the whole territory of modern Afghanistan, but also the land of southern Turkestan, the whole of Badakhshan. He invaded the native Persian lands and captured the city of Nishapur with the adjacent region of Khorasan. In the south, it penetrated deep into Hindustan, subjugated Punjab and Kashmir, Sirhind, Sind, most of Balochistan, captured Delhi, but left it at the mercy of the Great Moguls. He founded his capital in Kandahar, then it was transferred to Kubul already during the reign of his son Timur Shah. The Durrani dynasty rules until 1823, by that time the empire created by Akhmat Shah Durrani had already collapsed.

The first of the Barakzai tribe (the union of the Durrani tribes) Dost Mohammed Khan ruled Afghanistan since the collapse of the Durrani Empire in 1819, more precisely, they were the united Kabul and Ghazni khanates. In 1834, he proclaimed the formation of the emirate, and himself accordingly the emir of Afghanistan. His reign was overshadowed by defeat in the first Anglo-Afghan war, when the emir was forced to surrender his country to the power of the Anglo-Indian troops and hide in its northern outskirts. In the spring of 1839, the invaders invaded from the south, and by the beginning of August they reached Kabul, which they got without a fight. In 1840, the emir surrendered to the English, who put their protege on the Kabul throne. The Pashtuns later revolted against the invaders, led by the relatives of the ousted emir. The British were forced to leave Afghanistan, the most sad was the withdrawal of a detachment of Elfingston numbering 4,5 thousand bayonets from Kabul under the guise of these troops were evacuated 11,5 thousand members of families of British soldiers and civilians. Only one person managed to cross the Afghan border, it was Dr. Biden, the rest of 16 thousand were killed or died on the way for other reasons. In 1842, the emir was liberated by the British, returned to Kabul, and again took his throne.

In the 1878 – 1881 years, the UK launched a second invasion of Afghanistan. The newly invaders captured Kabul and other major cities. Amir Shir Ali, who then ruled the country, abdicated the throne. In July 1880 of the year, the English put their protege Jakub Khan (the son of the ousted emir) on the throne. Soon the country was seized by unrest. In the capital, Afghan troops rebelled and massacred. The invaders, having suffered a series of defeats, left Kabul and the country, along with them their protege left. His place was taken by Abdul Rahman Khan (nephew of Shir Ali). During his reign, Afghanistan was shaken by several uprisings, the largest of which was the Hazara. Abdul Rahman Khan by force converted the infidels to Islam (now it is the Nouristan) and signed the treaty imposed by the British on the “Durand Line”, which has now become the present southern border of Afghanistan.

This is not to say that all emirs were pious. Thus, Emir Habibullah Khan (son of Abdul Rahman), being, in fact, the spiritual leader of a Muslim country, managed to join the Masonic organization of Lodge Concordia (Concordia Lodge), while on a visit to Calcutta.

His son, Amanullah Khan, immediately after 28 succeeded to the throne in February 1919, proclaimed the full independence of Afghanistan, which was under the protectorate of London. In May, at the initiative of Kabul, the third Anglo-Afghan war began, it lasted less than four months. Military operations followed the line of the Durand, the success was accompanied by the British, but an uprising of Pashtun tribes began in their rear, which determined the need to end the war. In 1921, the UK recognized the independence of Afghanistan. Amanula Khan is known as a progressive ruler, he conducted a series of reforms, but the most noticeable was the formal change of spiritual sovereign power to secular. As a ruler, he remained as he was, only instead of the supreme religious title, the “emir” became known as the Padishah, and the country turned from an Emirate into Padishahia. By his actions, this enlightened monarch caused discontent among the clergy and the majority of believers. The general dissatisfaction with his reforms resulted in an uprising, which at some stage was headed by the Tajik Habibullah “bachai-i sakao” (son of the water-carrier). Khabibulla was able to unite the Tajik militia and Pashtun from the Gilzai tribal alliance under his command and undertook a campaign against Kabul. Amanullah Khan, realizing that the throne beneath him was tottering, on January 14 1929 handed over power to his brother Inayatulle Khan and fled abroad. After a couple of days, on January 17, Inayatulla Khan surrendered Kabul to the insurgents with almost no resistance. Tajik Khabibulla was proclaimed emir for almost nine months, and the country again became an emirate for the same period. But the Tajik had no chance of retaining power, he was overthrown by a representative of the Mohammadzai Durrani, from the barakzai clan Mohammed Nadir Khan, who took the title of "padishah" and returned the secular power to the country. He was a relative of the ousted padishah and, in fact, restored the already interrupted Barakzai dynasty.

Mohammed Nadir Shah was killed by a representative of the progressive intelligentsia, dissatisfied with the insufficiently active reform of the new ruler. Mohammed Zahir Shah, the last Padish of Afghanistan, ascended the throne (whose son was killed from 1933 to 1973), but his contemporaries are the “golden era” in the country's history. In the end, he was overthrown by his relative Mohammed Daoud Khan. Initially, in all sections of the people of Afghanistan, such a rotation was considered normal, people got used to the struggle for power among the members of the Padishah family.

DUSHMANS AGAINST SHURAVA


But when it turned out that the country became formally, but a republic, fermentation began among the clergy, the conservative intelligentsia and among the activists of various religious organizations that appeared by that time, such as the Muslim Brotherhood. This ferment was transmitted to the masses. New President Daoud was forced to fight both the right-wing forces advocating for the restoration of the emirate and the left (United Front of the Communists - OFC, People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan - PDPA), who, incidentally, supported his coming to power. At that time, the USSR provided economic and humanitarian assistance to its southern neighbor. The leadership of the CPSU maintained close contact with both President Daud and the left opposition, which was represented by the leader of the PDPA Khalk party (the people) - Nur Muhkhamed Taraki and the leader of the PDDPP Parcham (banner) Babrak Karmal. The further negative development of the Afghan events is largely due to the fact that the leaders of the USSR did not fully realize what was happening in Afghanistan, and they incorrectly assessed the power that must be supported. And there the civil war was already gaining momentum, and the Saur (with the Afghan calendar) that accomplished the 7 revolution, or 27 of April, 1978 of the year and the NDPA that came to power had no chance to retain power in their hands. This was followed by the murder of Taraki and the bringing to the fore the second person of the Khalk party, Hafizullah Amin. Then Moscow acted in accordance with its doctrine, chopped with an ax when it was necessary to work with a scalpel. The Soviet leadership did not have either common sense or the flexibility of thinking to make the right decision in a rapidly changing environment. In December, 1979, a Soviet special forces with the support of paratroopers attacked the residence of Amin. The dictator was killed. A limited contingent of Soviet troops was brought into Afghanistan, which for many long 10 years was stuck in a completely unpromising war for our country. At first, everything looked like some kind of peacekeeping operation, but this was only until all the people of Afghanistan, without exception, started a jihad against shuravi (Soviet, from the Arab “shura” - advice). Yes, that's all: the Sunnis, the Shiites, and the Ismailis became the Mujahideen and started a guerrilla war against the Soviet troops and the pro-Soviet regime of the PDPA, a handful of Pashtun traitors from the tribal union of Ghilzais and representatives of some other nations. The Mujahideen were supported not only by the countries of the West (among which the United States was particularly active), Pakistan, the countries of the Persian Gulf and other Islamic states, but also the enemy of the West and the Sunnis - Iran. The Shuravi mission in Afghanistan ended in complete failure and withdrawal in 1989. During this mission, a great many military and political mistakes were made, both by the leadership of the USSR and by military leaders. It can be called luck that our losses were not as great as it could be if the Mujahideen fought in a consolidated and qualitatively planned military actions.

DURRANI


Representatives of the largest union of Pashtun tribes in Afghanistan, Durrani, ruled the 230 years, and their rule can be called a period of relative agreement between the peoples inhabiting this country, of course with reservations. But in the 1978 year, in the spring, in the month of Saur, on the seventh day, the representative of the Ghilzai (another association of Pashtun tribes) became the ruler, and since then this country can’t get out of the state of civil war. For the period from 1978 to the present, 10 came from the Gilzai tribal alliance and one Tajik as the head of state (taking into account the current president). The current incumbent president Ashraf Ghani (from the ghilzai) won the elections with only a slight advantage over the Tajik Abdullah Abdullah, who now holds the post of prime minister. This suggests that most of the Pashtuns did not take part in the elections and considered the current government puppet invaders. The Taliban to the invaders include not only NATO forces, but also the IG units, which in addition to Afghans include a large number of foreigners - Arabs, Uzbeks, Chechens, etc. The leader of the Mujahideen group, sworn by the IG, is Pashtun Hafiz Said Khan - a native of the Pakistani zone of free Pashtun Orakzai (not Durrani) tribes.

The newly elected leader of the Taliban movement, Mullah Akhtar Mansur, comes from Durrani, and it can be assumed that this strongest union of Pashtun tribes in Afghanistan is on its side. If NATO leaves the country today, it is quite obvious that the government in Kabul will not last long on its own, therefore, its legitimacy can easily be questioned. And the Taliban have already proved once that the burden of power is on their shoulders. True, during the reign from 1996 to 2001, they had another leader - from the tribal union of the Ghilzai Muhammad Omar Hotaki, but much has changed, and the rhetoric, and then the Taliban practice was somewhat different.

Starting contacts and offering assistance to Kabul, the modern Russian leadership, in fact, repeats the mistake of the leaders of the USSR in 1979. The West has its own way in this region, and the perniciousness of this way in the Kremlin has already been appreciated. It is not clear why the Russian leadership is going to go on it. Russia, of course, may remember the Taliban’s support for Maskhadov, but whoever remembers the old one, as they say, is out of sight. Is it time to show flexibility and not get into a dispute between Akhtar Mansur and Kabul, especially since Russia and the Taliban have a common enemy - the “Islamic State”? In addition, it is known for certain that the new leader of the Taliban movement sets as its task the liberation of the country from invaders, the restoration of Afghanistan as a state in the form of an emirate. He publicly denies the idea of ​​expansion to the north, that is, the seizure of any territories outside its northern borders is not included in his plans. For Russia, the Taliban does not pose any threat. On the contrary, they, like the other people living in the neighborhood, the Baluch, are a strong headache for Islamabad for well-known reasons. So let this issue is engaged in the political and military leadership of Pakistan.

MOJAHEDA AGAINST NATO


The invasion of US troops in 2001, at the first stage, was very successful. And not because the Americans have supernatural military capabilities. The leader of the Taliban of that time, Mohammed Omar, then made the only right decision: not to fight with the military machine of the West head-on, putting his supporters in the grave with thousands, but to retreat, dissolve. Therefore, the first few months, the Americans were so actively attacking, in fact, they fought with emptiness. The invaders supported the Northern Alliance. Altogether, in this war, dubbed as Operation Enduring Freedom, military 2001 countries took part from 2014 to 48. The West acted the same way as the USSR did. A puppet government was planted in Kabul, power structures were created (a separate conversation about them). But already in 2002, the Americans felt the hard way that the Taliban had moved from calm to guerrilla war against them. The West was building up strength. In 2011, there were about 133 in Thousands of coalition soldiers in Afghanistan, only 90 in Thousands came from the US. But the result was the same as that of the shuri. Government forces and coalition controlled only large cities and to some extent the northeastern territories. Most of the country was ruled by the Mujahideen. The Afghan troops and police, trained and armed by the military of the West, soon disappointed their patrons. Not only low combat capability, but mainly because desertion flourished in them. Moreover, Afghan soldiers and police often opened fire at the military from the coalition forces. By 1, January 2015, Operation Unbending Freedom was curtailed. And in the framework of the new operation “Strong support” in Afghanistan, about 12,5 thousand NATO military remained. Of these, over 9 thousand are Americans, about 1 thousand are Germans, and minor contingents are still from 10 states.

Starting from the end of the summer of this year, the Taliban’s military operations have been successful not only in the southern and south-western, but also in the northern, non-Pushtun regions of the country, where the Northern Alliance used to fight back. In connection with their seizure of the city of Kunduz, Akhtar Mansur’s message was spread in which the Taliban leader urged the people of Afghanistan to rally and help the Mujahideen to expel the invaders, he also appealed to the authorities and said that there would be no revenge on them the side. Despite the fact that the Taliban are recognized as a terrorist organization, we should not forget that their goal is an independent Afghanistan, it is not they, but the “Islamic State” (against which the Taliban are fighting) are carrying out plans for expansion into the territories of Central Asian countries and further to Russia.
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  1. venaya
    venaya 25 October 2015 06: 59 New
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    The article is strong. With so many militant peoples inhabiting this country, in my opinion, ensuring stability in the country as a whole is an unresolved task. The country was created openly artificially by external forces and is doomed to a long internal confrontation.
    1. aktanir
      aktanir 25 October 2015 07: 42 New
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      The main thing for us is to keep the borders, and there, "beyond the river", let them do what they want - they have long been accustomed to the Middle Ages. and there is no need to help any Turkmenistani, Uzbekistani - countries that diligently distance themselves from the Russian Federation in many policy issues, fixated on their special position and sovereignty. let them fight off the igils, the Taliban and other riffraff themselves and thereby prove their independence.
      1. venaya
        venaya 25 October 2015 07: 59 New
        +4
        Quote: aktanir
        ... let them do what they want ... let them beat themselves off from the igil, the Taliban and other riffraff ...

        It would be nice if it were possible. Streams of drugs fly from there primarily to us. If you take the north-east of the country, then it is populated by Tajiks. I talked with them, learned a lot, in the above privacy, even the name of the nation itself has Russian-speaking roots (Daj-god) and one of them knows this. It is practically impossible to stop the flow of drugs from there to us, the Americans understand this very well, and therefore they persistently sit there. Their specials. drug distribution services around the world and control. Therefore, we can’t get anywhere, somehow all this will have to be decided all the same.
        1. Aleksandr72
          Aleksandr72 25 October 2015 11: 44 New
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          I totally agree with you. The border between Tajikistan and Afghanistan is a very conventional concept in many respects, despite all the efforts of Russia and Tajikistan in this matter. The mountains, you know, you cannot prepare the PCB in them, and you cannot install the system. At least not everywhere and not always possible. And you also need to take into account the mentality of the local population on both sides of the border with rich Basmak traditions. I will not say anything about Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan, the leaderships of these countries are traditionally more interested in the problems of their own (i.e. personal) security and the inviolability of their power. For the interests of their neighbors, it’s kind of softer for them to say ... in general, the interests of their neighbors are of little interest, if any. The flow of drugs through these countries, especially after the Americans settled in Afghanistan and took the production and distribution of drugs under their control, is unrealistic to completely block. Not to mention the "traffic" of Islamic radicals and terrorists of all stripes. Therefore, there is only one way out - to strengthen the position of Russia in Tajikistan, where the 201st base is largely the guarantor of stability, and in Afghanistan itself, where the shuravi are still remembered, and not from the worst side. Especially when compared to the Americans.
          I have the honor.
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 25 October 2015 16: 04 New
            +1
            Even if the border between Tajikistan and Afghanistan is locked, then the broads can always bypass through Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan. Of course, our main line of defense is the southern border of Kazakhstan, and the border of Tajikistan is a distant cordon that can be circumvented by the broads or set fire to Tajikistan from the inside. In any case, Afghanistan will have to deal with in the future. Desirable by diplomatic methods, but anything is possible. The main thing is to clearly understand what we need. If the leaders of the union set the goal of annexing Afghanistan to the USSR, there would be fewer problems and the outcome would be different. Well, and so - we see the result, both input and output. However, as I said, these are questions of the future - now our fronts are in Syria and Ukraine. We will win there - we will see further.
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 25 October 2015 11: 06 New
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        Kabul needs urgent help
        I have repeatedly expressed the idea that Russians and Afghans are not enemies of each other. Although a relative himself died there, 1981.
        And the Afghan people about Russians have a good opinion. And the fact that Afghanistan has been turned into a merit of star-striped. And thank God that people understand this more and more.
        1. varov14
          varov14 25 October 2015 15: 06 New
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          As I understand it, one must be loyal to the Taliban.
      3. science fiction writer
        science fiction writer 25 October 2015 14: 55 New
        +2
        Quote: aktanir
        The main thing for us is to keep the borders, and there, "beyond the river", let them do what they want - they have long been accustomed to the Middle Ages. and there is no need to help any Turkmenistani, Uzbekistani - countries that diligently distance themselves from the Russian Federation in many policy issues, fixated on their special position and sovereignty. let them fight off the igils, the Taliban and other riffraff themselves and thereby prove their independence.

        There a bunch of rhinos in Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan rule the ball and when there
        clambers will climb, rhinos will whistle to where their money is stored, and ordinary people will step in their hands and go straight to us, and how will we keep the borders ?? from machine guns ??
      4. kepmor
        kepmor 25 October 2015 15: 08 New
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        It is urgent to close the border in the east, to introduce a visa regime for immigrants from Central Asia! Otherwise, a wave of migrants is waiting for us in a deeper way than Europe is now experiencing!
        The states will never calm down - from Afgan the Yankees of the "bearded" in the near future (as soon as they see that they have a complete ass in Syria) will be sent to the north - to Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan. And there their mujahideen, striving for power, even "a dime a dozen "Except for the Turkmen Basmachs, all the rest (Uzbeks, Tajiks, to some extent Kyrgyz) are not warriors, they are dehkans, they do not want to fight and do not know how, so they will not give a rebuff. Whole villages will be sent to Russia and Kazakhstan. Will we be able to digest this "wild bunch" painlessly? How many militant refugees will crawl to our land?
        Now these "quietest dehkans" have filled almost all cities and are already beginning to commit domestic lawlessness (rape, robberies). And what will happen when their number increases significantly? Are we able to withstand this invasion? It's just that we, the Russians, do not understand in any way, the Anglo-Saxons and Zionists have declared war on complete extermination. And not only the army and the navy, but also each of us should be ready for this war ...
        1. skobars
          skobars 25 October 2015 23: 14 New
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          Quote: kepmor
          In addition to the Basmachi-Turkmen
          - You shouldn’t talk about the Turkmens in vain; Basmachism really was there longer than anyone - until 1936. But in the Soviet period, normal people lived there. He served there during the collapse of the UNION, and the Turkmens with two hands were for the safety of the USSR, he himself spoke with Yashuli from the villages. And independence and neutrality is purely the policy of the top of Turkmenistan, who does not want to renew lost ties.
      5. Mujahiddin777
        Mujahiddin777 26 October 2015 00: 12 New
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        According to you, it is so easy to hand over the Southern borders into the hands of God knows who ??? 100% in these countries will undergo state revolutions, or as they are commonly called "color revolutions" and there will be a new place for terrorist training camps. And what will happen next we have already seen in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria ...
    2. marlin1203
      marlin1203 25 October 2015 13: 09 New
      +1
      And how to understand this tribal cocktail of nationalities? Negotiate with everyone? Something unpromising. The only way is to support the Pashtuns so that they drive everyone else into the stall, wherever with a whip or where with a carrot. If we really need it.
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 25 October 2015 15: 34 New
        -2
        It is necessary! Just as it is necessary!
    3. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 25 October 2015 13: 45 New
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      Quote: venaya
      The article is strong. With so many militant peoples inhabiting this country, in my opinion, ensuring stability in the country as a whole is an unresolved task. The country was created openly artificially by external forces and is doomed to a long internal confrontation.

      They are generally difficult to understand, decades of war, a country in ruins, a standard of living below the baseboard, and they all continue to fight. It is not clear what hoping they will obviously fail to win. War has become their way of life.
      1. venaya
        venaya 25 October 2015 14: 03 New
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        Quote: Lt. air force reserve
        They are generally difficult to understand ... clearly they won’t be able to win. War has become their way of life.

        You see, in this cocktail of diverse, often simply incompatible peoples, one cannot expect any stability. I think this is not their fault. Those who created this state seemed to have deliberately chopped some kind of interethnic vinaigrette there. If you split them at least a little on nat. apartments, then there will be more agreement, and in total it will become easier for everyone to live. It should be borne in mind that the nationality "Afghans" simply does not exist, but there is just such a country, so divide at least on the federal principle, it will be easier to negotiate and less interethnic debate. I think this is an option.
    4. varov14
      varov14 25 October 2015 14: 56 New
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      Therefore, to climb into such a mess with your sugar is the last thing. Not military assistance should be offered, but only humanitarian, regardless of the religious and power component. We have nothing to catch there other than friendly relations with our country.
  2. yuriy55
    yuriy55 25 October 2015 07: 24 New
    +6
    Russia has one task - to prevent the traffic of Afghan drugs into its territory. Here, the belief that rice and cotton is easier to grow than poppy will not work ...
  3. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 25 October 2015 07: 24 New
    +5
    In the entire history of Afghanistan, no one has been able to lead him to submission to the aggressors.
    1. venaya
      venaya 25 October 2015 08: 25 New
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      Quote: A1L9E4K9S
      In the entire history of Afghanistan, no one has been able to lead him to submission to the aggressors.

      Honestly, you know, Afghanistan itself is somewhat reminiscent of "an anecdote about the elusive Joe ...", no income, but problems ... winked ... The British somehow entered there, even built their own railway from India. After that, having received full "hospitality" from the Afghans, they jumped out of there, not forgetting to take their own railway with them.
  4. LEVIAFAN
    LEVIAFAN 25 October 2015 07: 31 New
    +6
    does history really teach nothing request
  5. Very old
    Very old 25 October 2015 07: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: yuriy55
    Russia has one task - to prevent the traffic of Afghan drugs into its territory. Here, the belief that rice and cotton is easier to grow than poppy will not work ...


    We should dwell on this task: remember how much and what the Union has set: how many are built ...

    And what about the richest country in the world? It was with the Yankees that the production of "rubbish" took off to the heights of the mountains

    But this is purely my opinion. ABOUT RUSSIA to think and take care
  6. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 25 October 2015 07: 53 New
    +4
    Che again for the Yankees ____ rake?
  7. BOB044
    BOB044 25 October 2015 08: 11 New
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    The US will hold the cunning forces there now. And as ISIS comes from Syria to Afghanistan, it will immediately withdraw its troops. And you, everyone else, will deal with them yourself. The USA loves to leave everything after itself to others.
  8. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 25 October 2015 08: 15 New
    +2
    Afghans cannot agree among themselves, so to whom to help? With whom to be friends and against whom? And do not say that against the Islamic State. The IS is like a religion, like a gang. Formation - anyone can enter, and with regard to Afghanistan - any clan can turn out to be an accomplice of the IS.

    If everyone is so preoccupied with drug trafficking, then do not eradicate it. These souls have nothing more to make a living from - there is nothing in the camp: no factories, no factories, no sheep ... And everyone wants to live beautifully at the fountain, drinking coffee and watching satellite TV. It is easier to level the Afghan mountains with nuclear weapons than to force local barmels to switch from war and drugs to peaceful civilian tracks.

    Quote: aktanir
    The main thing for us is to keep the borders, and there, "beyond the river"

    However, judging by the beginning of the article, our government is not going to do this.
    Rather, he is going to do something with Afghanistan.
    "Do not teach me how to live, help me financially".
    1.  pistons
      pistons 25 October 2015 09: 13 New
      +2
      No need to contact the people, each of whose representatives is proud that he is a devil.
  9. INVESTOR
    INVESTOR 25 October 2015 08: 26 New
    +4
    The training ground there must be arranged for testing nuclear weapons and dealing with the end.
  10. raid14
    raid14 25 October 2015 08: 34 New
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    The main task of Russia in the framework of the CSTO is to strengthen the border with Afghanistan, to arm the armed forces of Central Asian states, to block the flow of drugs, emissaries from the Taliban and IS to Tajikistan and other Central Asian countries. Let "the Americans who have brewed the Afghan porridge and disentangle it", Russia is not a bottomless barrel in terms of weapons and finances, to be scattered right and left. First of all, it is necessary to solve the problems in Syria, if we manage there, it will be Afghanistan's turn.
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 25 October 2015 08: 35 New
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      Quote: raid14
      First of all, it is necessary to solve the problems in Syria, if we can handle it there will be the turn of Afghanistan.

      Iraq will be in the middle (this is my opinion)
      1. raid14
        raid14 25 October 2015 08: 46 New
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        In Iraq, the Americans, they will not allow us to expand our influence, there is oil, read money, not for that they fought and overthrew Saddam, so that later they would share with Russia.
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 25 October 2015 08: 56 New
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      Quote: raid14
      will be the turn of Afghanistan

      How so?
    3.  pistons
      pistons 25 October 2015 09: 25 New
      +2
      While the bearded uncles are provided with financial and material assistance .. there can be no question of victory.
      Bleeding ISIS, there will be "Fuck" or something else. This bodalovo can last as long as you like.
  11. vfqjh
    vfqjh 25 October 2015 08: 41 New
    +2
    It’s not easy to understand this porridge. No wonder they say - The East is a delicate matter ... Once we have already broken firewood and must make organizational conclusions before making decisions. Measure seven times, you always have time to cut off!
  12. Million
    Million 25 October 2015 08: 45 New
    +4
    Afghanistan is no longer a state, but an American drug factory
  13. Russian Uzbek
    Russian Uzbek 25 October 2015 08: 59 New
    +2
    Approximate ethnic composition:
    Pashtuns - 9 million (48% of the total population);
    Tajiks - 3 million people (16%); Hazaras - 2 million people. (eleven%);
    Uzbeks - 1,5 million people (8%);
    Turkmens - 0,5 million people. (3%);
    other nationalities (Balochi, Charaimaki, Muritan, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Arabs, Nuristan, Pasha, Pamiri, Hindus, etc.) - 2,6 million people. (14%).
  14. Russian Uzbek
    Russian Uzbek 25 October 2015 08: 59 New
    +3
    In total, there are about 90 tribes in Afghanistan. The largest of them are: barakzai, popsai, nurzai, alizai, iskhakzai, safi, tarkani, momand, jadran, shinvari, afridi, hugiani, ahmadzai, dzhadzhi, chakmani, barbecue, hostval, andar, haruti, taraki, aulihelhel and The tribes are conditionally divided by the Afghan-Pakistani border and maintain close kinship, trade, economic and various other ties.

    Some Pashtun tribes live on both sides of the Durand Line and constantly migrate from Pakistan to Afghanistan and vice versa. Here are the largest of them: Safi - has more than 160 thousand people, of which 140 thousand people. settled in the north-eastern part of Kunar province.

    Momand - has in its composition more than 650 thousand people, including 250 thousand people. lives in the eastern part of the Afghan province of Nangarhar.

    Shinwari - over 200 thousand people. One of the most warlike tribes. He lives in the area of ​​Khyber Pass and to the west of it (in Afghanistan - 150 thousand people).

    Afridi - about 500 thousand people. (of which 80 thousand people in Afghanistan).

    Jadran - about 160 thousand people. The main area of ​​residence is the provinces of Shktika and Paktia. It has well-trained combat units that guard the tribal settlement area.

    Jadzhi - about 120 thousand people, lives mainly in the northeastern regions of Paktika province. Differs in militancy.

    Hugiani - about 150 thousand people, settled in the southwestern regions of Nangarhar province.

    Mangal - about 130 thousand people, lives in the province of Paktia. It has well-organized combat units. Feuds with the Jadran and Jaji tribes.

    Suleimanhel is the most powerful nomadic tribe wandering from Pakistan through the Vareak gorge to Katavaz, Charni, Bazakhva. This tribe is constantly on the move (stops do not exceed 5 days) and is distinguished by harsh and cruel mores, especially in relation to the settled population, it is engaged in robbery and damage to crops.

    Each tribe has its own distinctive traits characteristic only of it (traditions, clothing, symbolism, paraphernalia, etc.). Representatives of the same tribe always recognize each other.

    The Pashtuns have their own holy revered Pashtunvalay - a set of unwritten laws. The main ones are gayarat - honor, imandari - truthfulness, devotion to truth, regardless of the consequences, badat - fearlessness and courage ... These rules are followed by the Pashtuns along with the laws of Islam and Sharia.

    People of a different nationality are drawn to them by something alien, hostile and even low, although the guest always receives increased attention and respect. Anyone who had the opportunity to visit and work in Afghanistan experienced this on their own.

    Every Pashtun is very proud that he belongs to this nation and values ​​his freedom. A. E. Snesarev * in his work “Afghanistan” (1921) quotes the Pashtuns to reproach the British that they, the Afghans, have mutual disputes, unrest, poverty: “Let us be poor and bleed ... this is our internal affair, but we Afghans are always and foremost free. ”

    * General A. E. Snesarev - a prominent Russian military historian-orientalist
  15. am808s
    am808s 25 October 2015 09: 00 New
    +3
    We ourselves will soon need help, which I'm sure no one will be in a hurry to render. By carefully pulling Russia into many conflicts, the West pursues its well-known goals. Do not forget the old fairy tale about a broom and sons. Finish the enemies in Syria, and only then take on the next twig . It follows from the article -Afghanistan is such a jelly from the languages ​​of religions and patrimonial laws in which the people living there themselves are not able to understand. With our charter, we are unlikely to put things in order in this monastery soon. I think Afghans only Genghis Khan could bring to a common denominator. But Russia is bound to do nothing bound by international laws and obligations.
  16. Russian Uzbek
    Russian Uzbek 25 October 2015 09: 05 New
    +1
    1 Tajiks live mainly in northern and central Afghanistan. True, their colonies are found in other provinces of the country. The main occupation of Tajiks is agriculture. Tribal division of this nationality is practically absent. Tajiks constitute a significant stratum of the urban population (especially in Kabul and Herat). Some Tajiks call themselves sardehi (Ghazni district), galcha (Badakhshan), herati, dehvan (Farah, Kandahar), guri (Herat).

    2 Hazaras are settled in the central part of the country - Hazarajate, covering partially six provinces. According to legend - the descendants of the soldiers of Genghis Khan. The main occupation of the Hazaras is agriculture and grazing. Tribal division (Dzhuguri, Uruzgani, Daikunda, Daivangi, Yakaulang, Sheikhali, Becksud, etc.) has been preserved. They live compactly. They form their communities, whose members are connected not only economically, but also religiously. The Hazaraic population professes Shiite Islam. This situation negatively affects relations with other peoples of Afghanistan, most of whom are Sunnis.
    The Uzbeks are settled in the north of the country (provinces of Jauzjan, Faryab, Balkh, Kunduz). The main occupation is agriculture.

    3 Charaimaki preserved tribal division (jamshids, firuzkuhi, taymani, timuri, etc.).

    4 Turkmens live mostly in the northern and north-western regions and lead a sedentary lifestyle. They partly preserved tribal relations (exari, salori, saryk, teke, yomuds, alili, etc.).

    5 Nuristanis are largely still a mysterious and insufficiently studied people, as it is supposed, the descendants of one of the Mediterranean peoples, who remained in the east of Afghanistan on the spurs of the Hindu Kush, in the mountainous northern regions of the Afghan provinces of Lagman and Kunar since the conquests of Alexander the Great. For a long time, their customs and customs differed from local nationalities and tribes, so the area they inhabited was called Kafiristan (from the word “kafir” - “unfaithful”). And only with their adoption of Islam (about a hundred years ago) it began to be called Nuristan (from the word "nur" - light). The territories occupied by the Nuristan tribes (siyah-pushi, safid-pushi) of the territory by the central state power of Afghanistan were not controlled during the entire period.

    6 Balochis are mainly settled in southern Afghanistan - in the provinces of Nimruz, Helmand and Kandahar. They suffered the same fate as the Pashtuns - they were divided by arbitrarily drawn borders. In Afghanistan, there is a “Baloch problem.” Balochian tribes (Narui, Bragui, Rashkhani, Sanjarani, Gurgij, Maleks, Reigi, etc.) maintain contact with related tribes located in Iran and Pakistan. Strive to unite their nation. Running a little ahead, I note that the Balochs practically did not participate in the Afghan rebel movement, although attempts to persuade them to this were constantly made by Pakistan and Iran.

    An important place in Afghan society is also occupied by Sikh and Hindu communities. Sikhs and Indians live mainly in Kabul, Jalalabad, Kandahar and Charikar, and are also found in other provincial centers.
  17. Zomanus
    Zomanus 25 October 2015 09: 07 New
    +2
    I would focus on eradicating poppy cultivation in Afghanistan.
    Come up with a defoliant that kills only poppy.
    And which can be launched along rivers, from which water goes to poppy fields.
    This is where our scientists would work ...
  18. moskowit
    moskowit 25 October 2015 09: 35 New
    +2
    The historical and ethnographic analysis is very interesting. But the impression was that the author is proposing, after the "rehearsal" in Syria, to arrange a "concert" in Afghanistan, proposing the Taliban as allies. Look at what he writes: "... Starting contacts and offering assistance to Kabul, the modern Russian leadership, in fact, repeats the mistake of the leaders of the USSR, committed in 1979. The West has its own path in this region, and the Kremlin has already appreciated the harmfulness of this path It is unclear why the Russian leadership is going to follow it. Russia, of course, can remember the support of Maskhadov to the Taliban, but who will remember the old, as they say, out of sight. Is it time to show flexibility and not get involved in the dispute between Akhtar Mansur and Kabul , especially since Russia and the Taliban have a common enemy - the "Islamic State"? In addition, it is known for certain that the new leader of the Taliban movement sets as his task the liberation of the country from the occupiers, the restoration of Afghanistan as a state in the form of an emirate. about expansion to the north, that is, the seizure of any territories outside its northern borders is not included in his plans. For Russia, the Taliban does not pose any threat ... "

    Only I would like to continue the proverb to the end, "Whoever remembers the old will have an eye out, and whoever will forget the old, will be two!"

    There is only one way out. Strengthen political and military ties with Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan in every possible way. Create the most reliable "buffer" ....
  19. F.Vastag
    F.Vastag 25 October 2015 10: 08 New
    +2
    While at least one American or NATO member (at military bases) is in Afghanistan, do not provide any Aid (to an Occupied and Completely Destroyed Country) or sharpen issues on Afghanistan (assistance, etc.). And then the Americans Iron there (everything that moves) and we mean Help and Restore. Not Already, Dudki; as they say: We swam We know. (Do-it-yourself "Burning chestnuts" from the Fire for Uncle Sam - Will not come out). And there (in Afghanistan) there is no one to stake on (there are no pro-Russian forces there). It is necessary to strengthen the border with Kazakhstan Thoroughly (checkpoint, towers, control-track strip, etc. as in the USSR) - this is the Case (and on Afghan - Thoroughly score)
    1. BMW
      BMW 25 October 2015 12: 52 New
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      In my opinion, the most reasonable comment and more information from RUSSIAN UZBEK. You can’t climb into Agan. Syria has a difficult interethnic situation, but here the devil’s leg will be broken. But the author is right in one thing, it is necessary to establish friendly relations with the Taliban, help them bring the north under control, and unite them with the northern tribes. The Foreign Ministry should work here, well, weapons can be thrown from old stocks, if not.
      Only the most important rule:
      Quote: vfqjh
      Measure seven times, always have time to cut

      It is necessary to establish close contacts and ties with the Central Asian republics.
      The main thing is not to go directly into Avgan, under any circumstances.
      The article is a plus, very reasonable, and the question is very sore.
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 25 October 2015 18: 32 New
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        Quote: bmw
        But the author is right in one thing, it is necessary to establish friendly relations with the Taliban, help them bring the north under control, and unite them with the northern tribes.

        There is a mistake, even a double one, the first one is to establish friendly relations with the Taliban (I remember how I established friendship with the Wahhabis in Dagestan at one time, all kinds of videos were played on the first channel, which I hope everyone remembers later), the second is to help bring the north under control, it's like promoting a civil war, because in the north traditionally Tajiks with Uzbeks control the territory
  20. slizhov
    slizhov 25 October 2015 10: 14 New
    +2
    Who says NATO is fighting the Taliban?
    They help them spread drugs around the world!
    1. tiheros
      tiheros 25 October 2015 16: 25 New
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      Under Taliban rule, drug production has fallen to near zero.
  21. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 25 October 2015 10: 47 New
    +2
    Quote: Zomanus
    I would focus on eradicating poppy cultivation in Afghanistan. Come up with a defoliant that only kills poppy seeds, and that you can run along rivers from which water goes to poppy fields. Here's where our scientists work ...

    It was the Taliban who, before the invasion of mattresses, practically nullified the cultivation of opium poppy. At one time, there were many photographs in which bearded long sticks cut down poppy plantations - now here are other photos, American soldiers on the background of poppy fields. Protect traffic from the plantation to implementation)))
    Given the nonsense the White House and the Pentagon carry, it looks like they are all sitting on Afghan heroin.
  22. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 25 October 2015 11: 38 New
    +1
    Somewhere I read that the Pashtuns, one of the 12 tribes of Israel.
  23. Lelek
    Lelek 25 October 2015 13: 07 New
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    (... the number of American troops in Afghanistan until the end of 2016 will remain the same as it is at the moment, that is, about 10 thousand people, and in the future it is planned to reduce it to 5,5 thousand)

    As far as I understand, in the future there will be only units serving the Afghan drug traffic and protecting the poppy fields from destruction. In truth - "nothing personal, just business."
  24. lukke
    lukke 25 October 2015 13: 51 New
    +3
    The Shuravi mission in Afghanistan ended in complete failure and troop withdrawal in 1989.
    and it is possible in more detail - what kind of failure are we talking about? Did the Americans enter Afghan in 1989? Was our 40th Army defeated? The withdrawal of troops is in any case an inevitable component of "entry." These would-be analysts of democratic times have already worn out, through the prism of the Western media they have put it into their heads - "We are all bad in Afghanistan" (although we were sitting on sofas at that time) and now all the people are trying to instill this inferiority complex. Moral hoopoes ...
    Afftaru: as we entered Afghanistan, our western partners are still studying with aspiration, this is not an unprepared trip to Grozny. And the way out was also at the level (if not for Judas Shevarnadze with bombing and other Jude elements) - Afghanistan has become a good school for our armed forces, etc. and the work of the 40th Army was normal.
  25. donavi49
    donavi49 25 October 2015 16: 09 New
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    In Nangarkhar, IS attacked from Pakistan - they massively cut their heads, they took away equipment and weapons from the army and police.

    So to speak, the second front (the first to the North is the Mansurov Taliban).
  26. 3vs
    3vs 25 October 2015 17: 56 New
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    "by joint efforts to cut off sources of financing, channels for the supply of weapons and materiel to extremist organizations operating in Afghanistan."
    So the sources are the same, that of these, that of the "Syrian" moderate opposition "."
  27. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 25 October 2015 18: 16 New
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    how familiar the brotherly people of afghanistan need help ... oily nadoli !!!!
  28. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 25 October 2015 18: 31 New
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    And I liked the article, the author briefly but interestingly walked around the English, and the history of the "leaders" of Afghanistan is interesting. Thanks to the author. good hi
  29. sa-ag
    sa-ag 25 October 2015 18: 37 New
    0
    And why does Afghanistan need urgent outside help?
  30. fif21
    fif21 25 October 2015 21: 09 New
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    Kabul needs help urgently! And what does Dostum ask for? Weapon! We are asked to "firewood" into the furnace of war. How many weapons and ammunition factories are there in Afghanistan? Even the barrel of the "not killed" AK is not eternal and needs a cartridge 7.62 US weapons The Afghans have already appreciated, but the American military is apparently working poorly and the weapon "capricious" The weapon given to the government forces will be 100% sold or transferred to the Taliban. Afghanistan needs demilitarization This is a guarantee of tranquility in Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, strengthening the borders of the Central Asian countries, blocking drug trafficking, this is what needs to be done in the interests of Russia.
    1. skobars
      skobars 25 October 2015 23: 28 New
      +1
      Whatever the Taliban would say, but while they were in power, the drugs in AFGHAN almost disappeared. The mattresses came and officially began to promote the cultivation of drugs, (increasing the volume by 40 times), referring to - well, farmers should live at the expense of something. Here, to contribute to the cultivation of cereals for food - this is unprofitable for farmers. Just then most of the poison goes to Russia, and this is already beneficial to the Americans. If the Taliban did not fool around with the destruction of the heads of the monuments, then they would be no worse than the Saudis - one gang of watering can.
  31. pilot bin-bom
    pilot bin-bom 25 October 2015 22: 39 New
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    By definition, only a dictator can rule such a diverse country. With an iron hand. But this is similar already in the past - the last two dictators in the Arab countries of the United States were destroyed - well, you know the results. Well then, you need to support the war of everyone against everyone, and those who buy it will have to pay weapons in advance - cynical - but frankly cynical, but the more bogged down in the bloody internecine, the easier it is at the border.
    By the way, fif21 as for the Kalash clones, the Pashtuns have long established their artisanal production.
    1. pilot bin-bom
      pilot bin-bom 25 October 2015 23: 13 New
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      Iraq and Libya lived better under dictators. About this, US presidential candidate Donald Trump told CNN.

      According to him, the world would be 100% better if Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi were in power.

      Trump noted that both countries eventually fell apart. The US presidential candidate added that he did not consider Hussein to be a good guy, but he was actively fighting the terrorists.
  32. tatarin35
    tatarin35 26 October 2015 02: 29 New
    +1
    already heard it before
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  36. Platonich
    Platonich 26 October 2015 06: 54 New
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    Quote: A1L9E4K9S
    In the entire history of Afghanistan, no one has been able to lead him to submission to the aggressors.

    And no one will ever do this for the rest of his life !!!
  37. _GSVG_
    _GSVG_ 26 October 2015 13: 07 New
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    Apparently the time has come, now from our side to arm the "spirits" for the struggle for independence against the amer occupiers, for one and the southern border republics will solve the problem of unemployment among their youth.
  38. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 26 October 2015 13: 29 New
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    A sane person will not fight with characters living in Afghanistan. Defeating them is as impossible as the Russian people.