A US officer attempted to explain American armored vehicles stuck in Portuguese sand with part of the Trident Juncture-2015 exercise plan.

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One of the topics discussed today News is the "triumphal" landing of the US Marine Corps on a Portuguese beach during exercises Trident Juncture-2015. The “triumph” of the landing was that right after it several armored vehicles were stuck in the deep sand, and the servicemen had to temporarily forget about the purpose of landing and reach for the release of armored vehicles from sandy captivity. Presented video from WarNewsTV:



It would seem that Western military officials still have to admit the complete failure of the landing operation and, in the future, choose places for landing more carefully to avoid further incidents of this kind, but representatives of the American command of the operation decided to try to justify themselves. According to US Army Lieutenant Colonel Eric Hamstra, such an operation was planned ... That is, American armored vehicles stuck in the Portuguese sand, which did not pass even five meters, it turns out to be “part of the plan.”

Eric Hamstra (quote RIA News):

The marines did a good job. The teachings have become an excellent opportunity (to express yourself). When cars get bogged down in the sand, the marines will now know how to pull them out.


Portuguese edition The Observer ironically states that American armored vehicles burned fuel, throwing “banned” substances into the atmosphere many times more than Volkswagen cars were throwing out, for which “non-ecological” engine work the United States instituted a criminal case against the company ...

In general, now everything became clear. It turns out that the first case of the Marines during the largest NATO exercises in Europe was to master the skills of pushing out armored vehicles. It must have been indicated in the exercise scenario that “the enemy was so mesmerized by the actions of the marines trying to push the armored vehicles”, that he forgot about the opportunity to put them all in one powerful blow ...
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    1. +29
      23 October 2015 13: 51
      have become excellent

      Target, wow warriors, fellow
      1. +89
        23 October 2015 13: 53
        instead of a thousand words, just looking at Repin's painting, "they didn't get there", I whinnied wildly and wildly at such a lovely picture ... laughing
        1. +24
          23 October 2015 13: 59
          Yes screwed up even on exercises laughing
          1. +36
            23 October 2015 14: 02
            Quote: Wend
            Yes screwed up even on exercises

            Yes, they just laid eggs in the sand! Turtles always do that! laughing
            1. +52
              23 October 2015 14: 23
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Yes, they just laid eggs in the sand! Turtles always do that!

              Bayan of course. smile
              1. +23
                23 October 2015 14: 32
                Quote: i80186
                Bayan of course.
                “It's fun anyway.” smile
                1. +13
                  23 October 2015 15: 26
                  Yes ... If it was "D-day", then the Germans would have laid them ...
                  1. +12
                    23 October 2015 19: 34
                    first, since this is part of the teachings, then what are the clowns walking around, but not crawling? laughing
                    the second, there having a rest in a shade ..., could be carried out on handles ...
                    and the third, living in Anapa, I know that in such a situation it will help ... just one shovel ... there were warriors from the northern states there ... lol
                    1. +1
                      26 October 2015 09: 50
                      Here’s how Zadornov can’t be remembered well ........., and I’m also interested in what’s the winch they have, or is it as much of a benefit as the cross of the Hamer himself?
              2. +12
                23 October 2015 17: 24
                And what? They’ve taken the bridgehead! And waking up!
              3. +3
                23 October 2015 21: 04
                Commanders are not smart people (and-d-and-o-t-s !!!)! But the soldiers did nothing, without additional commands, to save themselves and their comrades.
              4. +1
                24 October 2015 00: 33
                damn, I also wanted to lay out the Saxons.
              5. +3
                24 October 2015 04: 43
                Thank you, neighing from the heart))
            2. +27
              23 October 2015 14: 29
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Yes, they just laid eggs in the sand! Turtles always do that!
              - They put Humvee in the sand.

              But the lieutenant colonel’s statement is a paragraph !:
              The marines did a good job. The teachings have become an excellent opportunity (to express yourself). When cars get bogged down in the sand, the marines will now know how to pull them out.
              ...

              It's amazing that they learned how to start them before the exercises! laughing
              1. +3
                23 October 2015 15: 17
                Only now, how not to get stuck in the sand - they did not know laughing
            3. +60
              23 October 2015 14: 36
              the fact that the vaunted "Hummers" (aka HMMWV) are far from heroes on heavy off-road - this is clear to an African-American (especially when he was dressed in armor (I mean HMMWV, not African-Americans smile )). interestingly something else - really the most "highly sponsored" army can not afford a real "multipath" ?! or the interests of corporations are above the interests of the state? if so, then the Russian "Serdyukovism" - babbling in business "drank"; if otherwise, then senior officials in the Pentagon do not really understand what kind of "highly mobile vehicle" their army needs ...
              the video itself smiled a little - if all (or most) amers landing operations take place in a similar vein, then such operational forces are worthless.
              1. +12
                23 October 2015 15: 32
                Quote: self-propelled
                dignitaries at the Pentagon

                Not in Petagon, but in Pontagon. hi laughing Yes
              2. +13
                23 October 2015 16: 10
                Don’t show this video only to the Portuguese ... after that, looking at the example of Canadians stalling from Syria, I can generally ask the CSTO and be proactive to offer the Russian Federation to deploy a naval base on their territory ...

                ... as a joke, if what ...
                1. +6
                  23 October 2015 17: 54
                  why is it a joke? Putin said: from Vladivostok to Lisbon ... wink
              3. +21
                23 October 2015 18: 02
                Us Russian, these landings will not surprise)))

              4. +5
                23 October 2015 18: 38
                Well, they can catch the Bedouins and Papuans with fear, but there is no more professional army. Damn, how can you look at these clowns from the weevils show through the sight of SVD or AK? I would laugh laughing
            4. +6
              23 October 2015 14: 41
              According to US Army Lieutenant Colonel Eric Hamstra, such an operation was planned ....
              The marines did a good job. The teachings have become an excellent opportunity (to express yourself). When cars get bogged down in the sand, the marines will now know how to pull them out.

              yesterday the same "picture" from Omsk was shown - where passengers are pushing the minibus after heavy snowfalls - you can say the TRP standards passed winked
            5. ABV
              +7
              23 October 2015 20: 56
              I do not share the common joy, unfortunately (((...
              For "neighing", of course, great!
              BUT it would be much better if such a jamb got out not in the exercises, but in a real operation!
              and the teachings ... for that, and the teachings, in addition to demonstrating power, also open up your jambs and shortcomings and then correct them.
              So, what happened in the "Strategic Plan" is not so great .... although psychologically - the morale of course will not increase!))
              1. +6
                23 October 2015 23: 51
                So they are still there in a bunch all settled down. Just for mortar or artillery salvo.

                And the driver just forgot to say that you need to lower the tire pressure a little ...
              2. +4
                24 October 2015 14: 06
                You are absolutely right about the objectives of the exercises 200%. Only NATO's goals were just demonstrations of strength, which they did not succeed in, but at the same time the exercises turned out to be, and this really does not please. And do not understand to rejoice or upset. Have to laugh smile
              3. 0
                25 October 2015 00: 00
                Quote: ABV
                it would be much better if such a jamb did not come out during exercises, but in a real operation!
                and the teachings ... for that, and the teachings, in addition to demonstrating power, also open up your jambs and shortcomings and then correct them.

                I agree. From this jamb, the American army will not become weaker. But the situation is really comical, as well as excuses.
              4. Vek
                0
                25 October 2015 17: 56
                I agree, if you drop the comic, it’s bad - they took into account that their hammers go to the beaches very hard, and the next time (maybe combat) they’ll take at least a few boards to put wheels underneath .. :(
          2. +35
            23 October 2015 14: 03
            What a delight, the hegemon are decisively and fearlessly dominating the Hummers on the beach! laughing
            Three things can be watched without stopping: how the fire burns, how the money counts for you, and how hummers with amerompekhs lay larvae on the picturesque beaches of Portugal ... laughing
            As Lavrov used to say ... well, you know, in general ... bully
            1. 0
              24 October 2015 13: 33
              Quote: Ruthless
              As Lavrov used to say ...

              woodpeckers! ... damn burned! lol (and for what offended the bird?) request crying
          3. BYV
            +5
            23 October 2015 14: 05
            The exercises became an excellent opportunity (to prove oneself). When the cars get stuck in the sand, the marines will now know how to get them out.

            The exercises became an excellent opportunity (to prove oneself). When they kick our ass, the Marines will now know which side is more convenient to expose. laughing
            1. +9
              23 October 2015 17: 56
              It seems to me that this is not simple sand. Putin poured it, and Shoigu treacherously leveled it. Probably direct delivery from Syria. Packing 50kg bags, the name "Greetings from Assad."
              In the trucks most likely diapers, stake, hamburgers ... the landing without them forward in any way.
              Please translate what is written below ... I only read GRANDOL ... probably the operation is called that.
              1. 0
                24 October 2015 22: 45
                Quote: Barkhan
                Seems to me it's not just sand

                This is NANO Sand. Field trials were successful. It remains to purchase in due quantity and sprinkle the coast.
          4. +31
            23 October 2015 14: 42
            They got stuck because "Hamers" are not suitable for landing ashore and can only be landed on solid shore. Correct landing using the right technique looks like this:
            1. +4
              24 October 2015 10: 53
              Quote: Grenader
              Proper landing using the right technique looks like this:

              Thank you for the video. The music is really vile, and the video is great good
          5. +5
            23 October 2015 15: 30
            Quote: Wend
            Yes screwed up even on exercises laughing

            Once again, they showed that "Hummers" and others like them are only suitable for driving the Papuans across Africa, but not for amphibious assault landing on an unequipped coast.
            1. +1
              23 October 2015 21: 51
              not only the Papuans, they can also drive somewhere on our roads)
              1. +5
                24 October 2015 14: 15
                "not only Papuans, they can also drive somewhere on our roads)"
                Hitler, remember what kind of hamers are there? In WWII, theirs (American, English and German) TANKS could not move at certain times of the year, let alone our "ROADS" ...
          6. +20
            23 October 2015 15: 30
            You understand a lot in NATO exercises. Their main goal is to ridicule the Russians to death, but this is what they do and it’s very good. laughing
          7. +5
            23 October 2015 15: 40
            They learned how to pull out the equipment, Karl !!!
            It remains only to ask, how, kaaaaak you clowns more than 10 years managed to fight in the sands of Iraq ???
            1. +6
              23 October 2015 16: 08
              Not in Iraq, but a lump led to us in the Volgograd region! Here we spend the race on the Silk Road, so the racers say that we have the most difficult stage of the car get stuck and even racing KAMAZ do not go. We will gladly help to lose their armored cars here to Amer!)))
              1. +12
                23 October 2015 16: 40
                Quote: Maxom75
                Not in Iraq, but a lump led to us in the Volgograd region! Here we spend the race on the Silk Road, so the racers say that we have the most difficult stage of the car get stuck and even racing KAMAZ do not go. We will gladly help to lose their armored cars here to Amer!)))

                The Germans in your area are not only armored cars, somehow they lost an entire army)) True, it was in the winter))
                1. +4
                  26 October 2015 05: 33
                  Quote: Mikado
                  The Germans in your area are not only armored cars, somehow they lost an entire army


                  ... and they still haven’t found it ... it’s kind of snowing =)
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            2. +1
              23 October 2015 16: 33
              Quote: yushch
              It remains only to ask, how, kaaaaak you clowns more than 10 years managed to fight in the sands of Iraq ???
              they used the network of roads built under Saddam and did not leave them. fool
          8. +4
            23 October 2015 18: 19
            Quote: Wend
            Yes screwed up even on exercises

            I don’t know what rank you, dear, were in the army, and were there at all. And I was in the SA for more than a dozen exercises. And well, if not broken, more than 20% of the equipment, wheeled and tracked. I'm not talking about stalled engines. And this is in ZakVO. where not sand, but rubble and clay. Mocking a potential enemy before the battle may be worth it if you are confident in the performance of the combat mission and your subordinates, but stupidly neighing, as I read here, is not from a great mind. especially if served. And if the landing was in a swampy area? Would you laugh more? I just know the capabilities of Humvee, but are there similar cars in the Russian army? I don’t know, he served in the USSR.
            1. +9
              23 October 2015 18: 44
              Quote: robbihood
              Quote: Wend
              Yes screwed up even on exercises

              I don’t know what rank you, dear, were in the army, and were there at all. And I was in the SA for more than a dozen exercises. And well, if not broken, more than 20% of the equipment, wheeled and tracked. I'm not talking about stalled engines. And this is in ZakVO. where not sand, but rubble and clay. Mocking a potential enemy before the battle may be worth it if you are confident in the performance of the combat mission and your subordinates, but stupidly neighing, as I read here, is not from a great mind. especially if served. And if the landing was in a swampy area? Would you laugh more? I just know the capabilities of Humvee, but are there similar cars in the Russian army? I don’t know, he served in the USSR.

              I put you +, but where is engineering intelligence? Where is the planning of the landing operation? Damn it!
            2. -4
              23 October 2015 20: 01
              Quote: robbihood
              stupidly laugh, as I read here - this is not from a great mind.

              Correctly! And why upload videos with an armored personnel carrier with 8 wheels versus 4 for Humvee? For example, I saw at the exercises (it was long ago) how one hollow carrier BTR-60 buried on the hub out of the blue, well, I drove it a couple of times to the Gas-66 and drove on, but with what help, the weight category is not the same. smile And the guys on the Hammers see gazanuli sharply on the loose sand, no wonder that buried. Humvee's cross-country ability is excellent, of course in skillful hands, and not the gasket between the steering wheel and the seat. The excuses of Lieutenant Colonel Eric Hamstra are at least naive. smile hi
              1. +1
                23 October 2015 21: 56
                they have everything perfectly against papus with spears ... Patency it depends on food
              2. Alf
                +7
                23 October 2015 22: 14
                Quote: Bayonet
                And why upload videos with an armored personnel carrier with 8 wheels versus 4 for Humvee?

                With a gross weight of 13600 kg, BTR-80 has 1700 kg per wheel, and Hammer has 4672-1168 kg. 80 is heavier, but it goes where the world's best super jeep sits.
                1. 0
                  23 October 2015 22: 22
                  Quote: Alf
                  80 is heavier, but it goes where the world's best super jeep sits.

                  Do you want to argue I will also bury it? I repeat once again, it all depends on the driver! In the case of the Hammers, the fault of the drivers is obvious! They even got stuck and continued to gas, digging even deeper. It was necessary to relieve pressure before the exit to the sand and, most importantly, not to gas! hi
                  1. Alf
                    +1
                    23 October 2015 23: 50
                    Quote: Bayonet
                    I repeat once again, it all depends on the driver!

                    So, maybe pindocs should teach drivers to drive not only on highways? And explain to them that in the world there is also impassability?
                    1. +1
                      24 October 2015 12: 33
                      Quote: Alf
                      So, maybe pindocs should teach drivers to drive not only on highways?

                      For that, teachings are carried out - to teach!
                  2. +1
                    24 October 2015 17: 15
                    It looks like the automatic gearbox is there, and it decides to drive or not and not the driver.
              3. +13
                24 October 2015 01: 39
                Office plankton can be stuck everywhere. Someone and Metromost are mountains. There are places where everything breaks. And these are painted as the coolest pros and warriors of the whole Earth and ten villages around, of all times and binges, and their vagabonds have no idea what to do on a typical obstacle, and the beach is dry, and the path is straight from the sea. The simplest case. Not swampy, not across the dunes, without round stones, God forbid wet. And if they were dropped off wet? And if you need to cross the surf? At most, the fifth wave would take them to the sea, moreover, I’m looking at their actions - most likely with the rest on board.
                And there is no insurance car with winches in the first wave, no sandtracks on cars, no flat tires, not even an attempt to find what to win.
                Clowns, for sure.
              4. +1
                24 October 2015 01: 51
                I saw the 66th pulling out a loaded TZM-ku, ZIL-131, pulled it out as I wanted, sitting on the bridges, so that the armored personnel carrier could try, well, in general, the wheels were for asphalt, but about the sand ... It was probably hard in the computer
                1. +1
                  24 October 2015 06: 10
                  Quote: Guest171
                  I saw the 66th pulling out a loaded TZM-ku, ZIL-131, I dragged it out as I wanted, I sat on bridges

                  If the 66th was well loaded, then it is possible. And if empty - it's useless! He tried to pull out a Zil-130 water carrier, jumped on a cable (slipped) and no use! But in the neighboring Rombat, the 66th with a concrete block in the back, the tracked automatic telephone exchanges easily dragged.
              5. +2
                24 October 2015 06: 13
                Quote: Bayonet
                Humvee's cross is excellent,

                Here you can immediately see the stupid minusers-idiots who have never sat behind the wheel of a military vehicle! And if he sat, then in the form of a gasket! laughing
                1. +3
                  24 October 2015 13: 47
                  Sasha, hi! for this post + and very big! good I had such a mmm in the platoon ... a cloven-hoofed animal that is staring at a new gate, so he managed to drown the PT-76, an almost unsinkable car ... No.
                  1. +2
                    24 October 2015 14: 33
                    Quote: Viktor Demchenko
                    managed to drown the PT-76,

                    Hi hi A very talented fighter! Such tests should be sent to new equipment, then it will definitely be super reliable smile
            3. +3
              23 October 2015 20: 46
              Quote: robbihood
              I just know the possibilities of Humvee,

              I also know, therefore this circus on the beach does not surprise me.
              In the Russian army they would be dragged in tow by something tracked.
              1. +8
                23 October 2015 23: 24
                Quote: GRAY
                In the Russian army they would be dragged in tow by something tracked.

                Yes, only that. In another way, you cannot plant equipment where it cannot pass.
            4. +4
              23 October 2015 21: 54
              the point is that the West is trolling amers!) this is the whole tsimus ... This is another of moral victories, along with others)
            5. Alf
              +8
              23 October 2015 22: 05
              Quote: robbihood
              But are there similar cars in the Russian army?

              Yes, it's called "Tiger".
            6. +7
              24 October 2015 13: 37
              you know, but there is even a very worthwhile technique that Hammer will not yield to, BMD-3 for example, or if a wheeled one is needed, then the BTR-82 ... something like that.
              By the way, he served in the USSR, he also took part in more than one exercise, one "Desna" is worth something, but for some reason 20% of our equipment did not break down ... maybe because in PCZ days we served the equipment, and not ate vodka? the title of demobilization starley, and so proud.
            7. +4
              24 October 2015 14: 29
              I agree with you.
              "I just know the capabilities of the Humvee, but are there similar machines in the Russian army? I don't know, I served in the USSR"
              There is! Some of the "stool-keeper" bought, but there are ours, only they did not participate in such "exercises". Above there was a competent opinion that this technique was not intended for landing on the coast (their general should have been told that they were practicing the stupidity of the headquarters in practice). Although I think if ours got into a similar situation, then they would simply flatten the wheels and leave, or they would use something else from the Russian ingenuity
          9. +4
            23 October 2015 19: 09
            But the marine walked on horseradish and kicked the stuck armored car on the wheels with its boot?! .... Apparently the sand from the top of the wheels shook in this way .... Probably it helped somehow
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            2. +2
              23 October 2015 20: 49
              Quote: Patriot 1
              But the marine walked on horseradish and kicked the stuck armored car on the wheels with its boot?! .... Apparently the sand from the top of the wheels shook in this way .... Probably it helped somehow

              Well, it's like women, they open the hood, look at the engine for a long, long time, then they touch something if the husband told me (especially the battery terminal) and start calling her husband to come and start the engine.
            3. 0
              23 October 2015 20: 55
              Quote: Patriot 1
              And the horse walked to hell and kicked the stuck armored car on the wheels with its boot ?!

              This, I suppose, is their leader. Then he will be driven to kick for the fact that the tire pressure is not relieved.
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          11. +3
            24 October 2015 16: 11
            Quote: Wend
            Yes screwed up even on exercises laughing


            In his youth, UAZ-452D was planted so that the rear axle lay on the sand, the front axle was disabled. There was no special key (asterisk), but there was a triangular file and a large screwdriver, and easily drove out. The UAZ cargo pickup truck is by no means a military technique, but as you can see, it is a cut above the vaunted Hamers. And screwed up on the account then in my stripes did it wherever possible. The body of a gorilla with the mind of a monkey can cause many troubles to others, because this monster, among other things, thinks that he is the smartest!
            1. +1
              24 October 2015 19: 33
              It’s not good with a file, it is terribly hard. A 10 mm square will save the father of world impassability.
          12. +2
            26 October 2015 00: 45
            Quote: Wend
            Yes screwed up even on exercises

            It turns out the first case of the Marines during the largest NATO exercises in Europe - development of skills for pushing armored vehicles.
            Anyone has such skills in our country - from a rural ambulance doctor to a lady who drove into a sleeping area in a Matisse ... Such extreme for Americans - in any yard in winter ...

            In general, the American "hawks" need to think hard before going to fight in Russia. And then they will again dump all their troubles in the cold and off-road ... Napoleon and Hitler over there, too, suddenly found out about Russian impassability. Well, if they found adventure in Portugal in the summer, what will they do in Russia, especially in winter?
        2. +14
          23 October 2015 14: 04
          Fools, hero of the system,
          Rush forward
          Normal heroes
          Always the opposite.

          And we are off the curve
          Do not turn back
          And it will be necessary again
          Let's go the crooked way!

          In my childhood I thought it was a Barmaley song, but it turns out to be the anthem of the mattress marines! fool
        3. +10
          23 October 2015 14: 31
          Quote: sasha 19871987
          ... I was laughing wildly and wildly from such a pretty picture ...

          Similarly, colleague! When accidents occur on the teachings of our potential adversary, they gnarish and maliciously immoral. But when a potential opponent made himself a clown for the whole world - here a smile involuntarily spreads in breadth! And how cute they make excuses -
          "... The exercise was a great opportunity (to prove yourself). When the cars get stuck in the sand, the Marines will now know how to get them out."
          Haha three times !!! In the sandbox it was necessary to train with toy cars!
          1. +5
            23 October 2015 14: 49
            Quote: Karasik
            "... The teachings have become an excellent opportunity (to prove oneself). When the cars get stuck in the sand, the marines will now know how to get them out."

            I agree to all 100% - the enemy must always be treated with respect (no matter what the enemy is).
            but the excuses look like "I fought about it, but I know how to wipe my ass"(I apologize in advance for some rudeness in your statements) feel
            1. +9
              24 October 2015 01: 12
              And respect for what, for the kindergarten? We even have on women's tracks in the trial, and I haven’t seen such a disgrace :)
              Stupidly without a clue what to do in the sand, and all things. Chis crap.
              Doctrines, speak? Further more interesting. Well nedojips got stuck, and stuck. It happens. But the actions of the soldiers in this situation directly killed. Here is a chain at a statutory distance of 20 steps from cows floundering on ice, and waiting for them :) But what if they finally can’t get out? And if a shell flew in and there was already no car? And the task of these pedestrians is not feasible without a dead house? And stupidly run away from an excellent motionless target, which they’ll shoot at right now?
              Maybe in "as close as possible to combat ..." Yeah, schA. Drivers and older cars already without equipment, in only pajamas, hang around like tourists. They probably already called 911, which means the combat mission is completed, now they are waiting for a tow truck :))
              I don’t know what their organizational conclusions are, in the place of their battalion commander I would have shot myself, in order to avoid the next short life.
          2. Alf
            +1
            23 October 2015 22: 18
            Quote: Karasik
            When the cars get bogged down in the sand, the Marines will now know how to get them out. "

            And why were cars driven exclusively by white, and blacks by no, in Pindostana the same equality? It smacks of racial discrimination. And why are sand jeeps and spotty green included? Do they have cars of different parts on the same ship? So for this, logisticians and commanders need to be driven with pissed rags for allowing a mixture of parts.
        4. +1
          23 October 2015 15: 50
          Quote: Sasha 19871987
          instead of a thousand words, just looking at Repin's painting, "they didn't get there", I whinnied wildly and wildly at such a lovely picture ... laughing

          In Russian the video is called "The US Marine Corps has landed in Portugal. Don't laugh much".
        5. +4
          23 October 2015 17: 37
          it’s not clear to me that LCAS couldn’t drive to the ground?
          There is a landing on an unequipped coast, then any force majeure can happen - and quicksand, and mines, and a thorn (in real, not training activities).
          So why are they, as in a parade, lined up in a bunch on a yellow sand, amid a blue lagoon? or their commander have no brains at all? and if mortar fire? after all, a kayuk.
          1. +3
            23 October 2015 20: 14
            and if mortar fire? after all, a kayuk.

            And if "Solntsepёk" warms up? fool
          2. +1
            24 October 2015 01: 21
            Teach tactics! As you propose - get the usual landing. And they showed the "triumphant landing", it is done like this!
        6. 0
          24 October 2015 09: 18
          and I introduced Normandy 44, there wasn’t such garbage there or was it still and America asked the Germans not to shoot until they push the tanks out of the sand?
          1. 0
            24 October 2015 12: 17
            There, it seems, Matilda was landed on a pebble beach. It turned out that the steel tracks slip on wet pebbles, and the tank is not going anywhere. They stayed there.
      2. +7
        23 October 2015 13: 56
        When the cars get stuck in the sand, the marines will now know how to get them out
        The command that developed the operation will know which coast to choose? lol
        1. +30
          23 October 2015 14: 03
          They haven’t seen our mud as greasy as butter, and I’m not talking about swamps.
          1. +6
            23 October 2015 15: 36
            Quote: Lyton
            They haven’t seen our mud as greasy as butter, and I’m not talking about swamps.

            In our mud and tanks are drowning laughing
            1. +6
              23 October 2015 20: 07
              Quote: K-50
              In our mud and tanks are drowning
              1. +4
                23 October 2015 21: 58
                but they’ll pull it out, especially not bothering
              2. 0
                24 October 2015 02: 23
                And what happened? What does he walk on the armor? In the spring and in the fall it’s normal, on dirt roads where the equipment goes, so son, grab a stick and pull out the car. And you have to wash it, but if not all the grandfathers are in the carriage ....
              3. 0
                24 October 2015 13: 53
                Well? the commander and the gunner dive in, take mud baths, drink a cup ... something and pull out the "drowned man" with a triple thrust. well, and then the mechanic ogrebet for the very thing! good
            2. Alf
              +6
              23 October 2015 22: 20
              Quote: K-50
              In our mud and tanks are drowning
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        3. +7
          23 October 2015 14: 22
          Quote: Kil 31
          When the cars get stuck in the sand, the marines will now know how to get them out
          The command that developed the operation will know which coast to choose? lol

          As they write to the video itself in the comments ..... everything is much more prosaic.

          BORIS RUS 13 hours ago
          @ * lana, the tire pressure had to be lowered before climbing into the sand.
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          Vasya Romashin 2 hours ago
          + qaz261 If you had ever sat in an army car, you would have known that there is a device for adjusting tire pressure without leaving the cab. And there are inscriptions on it; arable land, snow, sand, swamp, so that even Americans could figure it out, but this is probably not the case with the hammers.))
          1. +8
            23 October 2015 15: 08
            And they don’t even have a simple winch for self-extraction. And these shibzdiki gathered to fight with us.
          2. win
            +4
            23 October 2015 20: 55
            And there are inscriptions on it; arable land, snow, sand, swamp, so that even Americans could figure it out, but apparently this is not in the hammers

            Or maybe they don’t know how to read ...
        4. +4
          23 October 2015 15: 09
          Quote: keel 31
          The command that developed the operation will know which coast to choose?

          maybe asphalt ??? smile
      3. +33
        23 October 2015 13: 57
        laughing
        Quote: Stranger03
        have become excellent

        Target, wow warriors, fellow

        In real life, they would have won, because the opponents would have died from the wild rzhach that gripped them at the sight of these miraculous warriors.
      4. +4
        23 October 2015 14: 04
        This is an experience for everyone - that taking into account physical and geographical conditions, climatic conditions ... is extremely important when planning a combat mission! Reconnaissance is an essential element! You need to know and understand the capabilities of technology. As I had a case in the exercises, it took a couple of kilometers to go to the position of deploying heavy tropospheric stations on virgin snow, and I hoped that winter was not snowy and I couldn’t guess ... I had to tinker with it until we got there and walked well with a margin of time. Otherwise, all the standards would have crawled! I would not laugh at the Americans - for that they are the teachings that would learn from them!
        1. +29
          23 October 2015 14: 13
          Maybe this method of training should be carried out in the USA ...?)))) drinks
        2. +24
          23 October 2015 14: 17
          For the finchs. And what when planning the landing, the command of the landing did not think of conducting elementary topographic reconnaissance of the landing area ?! Or they are not taught them in their academies ?! And to think before you do something is not fate ?! The head is given to think, but in the case of mattresses, to have it!

          I need to learn from the exercises, I agree, but in this case, the exercises should have ended without beginning! Because while these heroes heroically pulled their tins from the sand, they would have been destroyed ten times! A normal commander would have fallen into such a situation (although a normal commander would not have fallen into such a situation), would have ordered this armor to be abandoned and a bridgehead occupied! Then having strengthened at the given lines and having provided defense, it would be possible to calmly pull out the equipment!
          1. +2
            23 October 2015 14: 28
            You speak common truths, but you and I don’t know - what will be their debriefing and who will be removed from office? And it’s hard to say from the article how the commanders acted in this situation ... I mean, this is not a special reason to neigh over the American warriors - I, behold, personally a soldier like them, made the same mistakes and made conclusions ! And with all my hatred of the Anglo-Saxons, I don’t laugh at the military, because I know that this bread is not easy ... I’m better at Psaki, the State Department or Obama, with your permission! hi
            1. 0
              25 October 2015 00: 20
              Listen, what mistakes? Such a word is absolutely out of place here.
              The Marines, who did NOT SEE the beach at all, could be called anything, just not a mistake. Is it that if the recruits with the service in one gateway, but then where are their commanders? And why did this civil rabble end up in the training area?

              People on this video, for the first time in their lives, ended up in the sand with cars, and what is more, it’s obvious to everyone in the frame. To the techies, or whoever is in their overalls, too.

              I’m responsible for the bazaar.
              So - let them send the chief of the Marine Corps to replace the McCain, say, a monkey of the same caliber, this one is probably even younger.
          2. +6
            23 October 2015 17: 48
            What really impressed me was exactly HOW they pulled out their Hammers. You are talking about very serious matters - academies, education, training, topography ... yes, look at them! People for the next cocktail on the beach go faster, even pretty drunk.
            Calmly, imposingly, kicking the sand, the valiant marines wander. Is someone stuck? So what? Nobody helps anyone. Nothing bothers anyone. Everyone in a wonderful mood is crawling like sleepy flies or just sitting.
            I don’t see any teachings here at all, it’s a walk through a terrain that’s not very suitable, and that’s all. By the way, Hammer on sand eats up to 400 liters per hundred. This is if it is traveling, if it is not, so more ...
        3. +8
          23 October 2015 14: 39
          Quote: Finches
          This is an experience for everyone - taking into account the physical and geographical conditions, climatic conditions ... I would not laugh at the Americans - they are exercises for that, to learn from them!

          They told. In Central Asia, for example, GAZ-69 and UAZ-469 were buried on glass .... GAZ left on its own.
          Maybe a fairy tale, maybe truth. 69- the beast on the cross the beast.
          And about experience ... We gained three great wars of experience
          1. +4
            23 October 2015 14: 40
            It’s hard to find equal pedestrians among wheeled vehicles at the time of its release! I haven’t seen him in the service, but I also remember the GAZ -69, awesome patency!
            And about the war, you are absolutely right! hi
            1. +1
              23 October 2015 21: 47
              Yes, I agree, there are few insurmountable directions for the "shishiga", but the reliability of the engines is alas. Recently I have found experimental air-cooled diesel engines on them. Kind of praised.
              I also remember with a kind word "Ural" with the MAZ engine. They pulled them out of the BRDM stuck in the mud, that is, the URAL drove where the brdmka got stuck
              1. 0
                23 October 2015 22: 17
                Ural-4320 with MAZ, a low-speed engine is a thing !!!!
                1. 0
                  23 October 2015 23: 47
                  then ZIL-131 all-wheel drive to the heap!
                  1. 0
                    24 October 2015 01: 50
                    And it is always four-wheel drive if not broken, but compared to Koluna (ZIL-157) - it does not go.
                    The Urals is a thing, but it’s never a people's car. Too expensive, 6 times more expensive than 131-o.
                  2. 0
                    24 October 2015 13: 59
                    you forgot about Kolun (ZIL-157 if that) ... this is really a passable technique!
              2. 0
                24 October 2015 03: 42
                Quote: Aurum
                Yes, I agree, there are few insurmountable directions for the "shishiga", but the reliability of the engines is alas. Recently I have found experimental air-cooled diesel engines on them. Kind of praised.
                I also remember with a kind word "Ural" with the MAZ engine. They pulled them out of the BRDM stuck in the mud, that is, the URAL drove where the brdmka got stuck

                Sorry, I’ll invest 2 kopecks, the so-called Mazovian engine is the YaMZ 238 produced in Russia at the Yakhroma Engine Plant! Phenomenal engine, V-shaped, turbocharged version generally a song!
          2. +9
            23 October 2015 14: 50
            For sabakina. I personally watched without any stories. It was in Belgorod 10 years ago. Heavy rain, the soil softened to the state of a swamp, "Niva" tried to drive along the house on the ground and failed! The right side went into the soil almost along the roof, the mirrors sank for sure, the left driver's side sank in the mirror, the tailgate was slightly higher, the hood completely sank. I stand looking and can't believe my eyes, the carrier turns on both bridges, the mud flew up to the fifth floor, so he drove out, a piece of mud, which had previously been a white "Niva", came out of the slurry! It's a pity then I didn't have a phone with a camera, that was extreme!
            1. +2
              23 October 2015 18: 45
              For Varyag_1973.
              Thanks for the information.
              Several years ago I had to go to the field for work in the field in the spring, on the short field. The tires were native, the so-called "Nivovskaya". He skidded, sat on the bridge ... The native tractor "Belarus" and a steel cable helped, the strap was torn vile. I think. there would be wide tires, "Kama", there would be no problems ...
              1. Alf
                +7
                23 October 2015 22: 25
                We also have an underwater tractor.
                1. +1
                  23 October 2015 23: 54
                  This is your video, this is really cool! Looked twice. And every time for some reason I was worried about the driver! To leave such a ... when the engine is almost submerged! With this technique, we are invincible!
                  1. +2
                    24 October 2015 02: 00
                    And what about him until the snorkel and exhaust flooded.
                    True, after this, you may have to replace all the oils in all units if you bathed for a long time. And so - nothing.
            2. 0
              25 October 2015 16: 37
              We broke through 90 km on an ordinary Niva along a logging road in Kemsky volost. There, cars with wheels of 2 meters high ride. Gone. 2 times they dived on the glass in a liquid, once they died out for half a second, but the pickup worked. Frankly, the driver was an experienced superprofile, but he himself did not believe that they had climbed. Yes, there was also a trailer trough with a quadric, and the machine was also ... white. Probably the color is the whole secret;)
          3. 0
            23 October 2015 20: 52
            Quote: sabakina
            They told. In Central Asia, for example, GAZ-69 and UAZ-469 were buried on glass .... GAZ left on its own.
            Maybe a fairy tale, maybe truth.

            Story! If the car is not a pity - try laughing
            1. +2
              23 October 2015 22: 07
              Quote: Bayonet
              Quote: sabakina
              They told. In Central Asia, for example, GAZ-69 and UAZ-469 were buried on glass .... GAZ left on its own.
              Maybe a fairy tale, maybe truth.

              Story! If the car is not a pity - try laughing

              Bayonet, for you personally! I remember driving over the field in the winter to the village in a UAZ 452-loaf (I worked in the Central Regional Hospital on an infectious disease), there was a tractor on the right, well, what if I get stuck. "Plowed" the field with a bumper, but the tractor was not needed! (True, I had to turn on the reduced one) Bayonet, you'd better shoot yourself! ...
              1. 0
                23 October 2015 22: 18
                Do not touch the bayonet - he is blissful! laughing

                Sasha, I'm joking! hi
      5. +5
        23 October 2015 14: 12
        What would ours do? They would just have pulled them in their arms. And these stupid people are ... they are sitting !!! drinks
        1. +2
          23 October 2015 17: 10
          I agree, as a commander of an auto-detachment. Two teams are enough. They took him to the car at once. From other cars they will run up
          1. +4
            23 October 2015 18: 04
            Quote: Sorokin
            Two teams are enough. They took him to the car at once. From other cars they will run up

            We have it. And with them everything is different. There is a book, "The American Navy in World War II." Author Morison S.E. So that's it. When landing troops on the islands, combat companies landed on the shore and if they did not fight, then they sat down under the coast and waited while the engineering units unloaded ammunition, weapons, etc. And even if the "loaders" could not cope, they themselves did not participate. This is not a royal affair. The same is in the video. A couple of techies are running around the hamers, and a dozen warriors are quietly waiting for them to be put in these hamers and taken to fight. And to push, "it's not our part."
        2. Alf
          +1
          23 October 2015 22: 30
          Quote: andre
          They would just pull them in their arms.

          Amer’s contracts clearly state what the marine should do and what the marine should not. And the hand grasp of the sunken car is not there, we must wait for technical assistance. The only question is: Will the enemy wait?
      6. +1
        23 October 2015 15: 29
        Quote: Stranger03
        have become excellent

        Target, wow warriors, fellow

        Ona, the American soldiers apparently thought that they, as the beacons of democracy and the most "exceptional in the world", are subject to everything? Debils, even without performing reconnaissance and operational planning, and if this is not a training ground for NATO homies, but in conditions of fire resistance? Grilled meat!
      7. +2
        23 October 2015 16: 01
        The American officer tried to explain the American armored cars stuck in the Portuguese sand as part of the exercise plan Trident Juncture-2015 @@ ""
        ... And right then "TORNADO" and "SOMERCH" flew in and the "GRAD" fell down ... laughing
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      10. 0
        24 October 2015 06: 30
        The enemy simply "whinnied" wildly and took selfies against the background of the stuck "Hummers", but if the cars were not on the machine, they would leave much faster!
      11. Vek
        0
        25 October 2015 17: 49
        Disgusting news because "When the cars get bogged down in the sand, the Marines will now know how to get them out."
    2. +31
      23 October 2015 13: 52
      They forgot to put the paver first and take the mobile asphalt plant with you ... !!! wassat
      But seriously, then - are they really so stupid, as Zadornov says, that the mind is not enough to lower the tire pressure ??? fool
      1. +15
        23 October 2015 14: 13
        Quote: sever.56
        are they really so stupid, as Zadornov says, that the mind is not enough to lower the tire pressure ???

        You think the only thing is the pressure in the tires? there it’s necessary to turn on the lower part, digging it out - it’s a lot easier to do it with sand, and you would have to swing it, and then quietly quietly and drive through, but to hell there! - I suppose automatic boxes are everywhere ... Comfort and technology are above all, then they are surprised when they pick up some from the Papuans.
        My friend was resting in Estonia. So the brave NATO warriors (Amer with the locals) came to their hotel to train in the pool in full outfit (without weapons only)! Because in the Baltic Sea some kind of non-comme il faut ...
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        2. 0
          23 October 2015 14: 26
          I agree with you. It is necessary to cut both the demultiplier and the lock. And if there are winches, then catch on, if there is anything.
          1. +2
            23 October 2015 20: 26
            It is necessary to cut both the demultiplier and the lock. And if there are winches, then catch on, if there is anything.

            Recently I watched in Yu-tuba how Siberians in winter pulled a jeep from Baikal from under the ice. Cool! good
            1. +1
              23 October 2015 22: 21
              And would you know how many of them there are still waiting for their happy hour. Unfortunately, I didn’t see how they pulled it out, but how I drove it under the ice ... a song - it turns out, of my own free will, to roll across the ice, leaving the inspectors of the reserve from the shore to the ice, such an audience does not ride on Lada and Zhiguli, only jeeps different stripes.
          2. +2
            23 October 2015 21: 12
            Quote: sever.56
            It is necessary to cut both the demultiplier and the lock. And if there are winches, then catch on, if there is anything.

            Even if there is nothing to catch on, there are so-called anchors. They are driven into the ground (any), cling to them with a winch and only go. BUT! this is with us. How do you have a big one? request lol
            1. 0
              24 October 2015 02: 17
              Yes, do not hold all this beauty of different designs nothing. And in the sand - there’s nothing to catch at all. And in general from the cart - except that digging in the spare wheel works.
        3. +1
          23 October 2015 20: 16
          Quote: Corsair
          You think the only thing is the pressure in the tires?

          Of course, it was necessary to reduce and not to fool around foolishly, but in a stretch.
          Quote: Corsair
          and with the buildup

          Humvee has an automatic gearbox, what kind of buildup is it?
      2. +10
        23 October 2015 14: 17
        Quote: sever.56
        But seriously, then - are they really so stupid, as Zadornov says, that the mind is not enough to lower the tire pressure ???

        There, in addition to reducing pressure, it would not hurt to work with a shovel. Otherwise even on half all the same, they would continue to bury themselves.

        Ehhh ... and how much joy was some with last year, when the "Tiger" not on the first try moved over the curb. smile
        1. jjj
          +1
          23 October 2015 15: 23
          But still lucky that the sands are not quicksand
      3. +1
        23 October 2015 16: 37
        At the same time, at the landing in Normandy in 1944, for such cases, roll and panel mobile flooring were stocked. Even their own experience is not studied.
    3. +3
      23 October 2015 13: 53
      oh come on. these are flowers. then there will be berries.
    4. +8
      23 October 2015 13: 53
      Do not believe the Americans!
      They are specially pretending to be the whole world!
      And at the decisive moment they will blow me, oh !!!
      laughing laughing laughing
    5. +1
      23 October 2015 13: 54
      A trifle. Trifle.
      The main thing is that the manufacturer continues to support the election headquarters of the candidates.
    6. +2
      23 October 2015 13: 54
      Just a log of the wrong system! But it would come in handy!
    7. +1
      23 October 2015 13: 54
      The dumbest hedgehog understands that the Humvee is stuck! You have a hovercraft!
    8. +2
      23 October 2015 13: 54
      Peacetime Army? It’s normal for a war with the Papuans, but even a black man with AK and RPGs will leave only corpses after such a landing. True, it is very likely that only once - the first.
    9. +4
      23 October 2015 13: 55
      and their mind didn’t have enough wheels to let them go, and then drive out onto the sand? to see them elementary things are not taught.
    10. +14
      23 October 2015 13: 55
      and at this time igil strengthens its air defense wassat

      1. +5
        23 October 2015 14: 25
        YAPLAKAL !!!!!!! laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
      2. +2
        23 October 2015 14: 27
        Mr. @ bottom-and-mine miner (probably the idea was stolen from the Ukrainians) or maybe they launched Russia instead of cruise missiles? then it's g @ ndon cruise missiles
    11. +1
      23 October 2015 13: 55
      The marines did a good job. The teachings have become an excellent opportunity (to express yourself). When cars get bogged down in the sand, the marines will now know how to pull them out.


      Based on the logic of the American officer, the next plan will be to save the crew of the crashed, due to technical reasons or the human factor, a helicopter or an airplane. belay

      As I understand it, Dear colleagues. hi
      1. +1
        23 October 2015 14: 18
        Quote: Vladimir 1964
        the next plan will be to save the crew of the crashed, due to technical reasons or the human factor, a helicopter or an airplane.

        laughing You missed the sinking of the ship in order to work out according to the plan what the NATO marines need to do if the BDK is sinking.
    12. +5
      23 October 2015 13: 56
      the marines will now know how to get them out.
      .. Stupid command and stupid armless marines ..
      It’s painful to watch them pull out the equipment ..
    13. +3
      23 October 2015 13: 56
      And what tire pressure can not be relieved from them?
      1. +8
        23 October 2015 14: 12
        It’s possible, current blowers are now blowing up gondoms in Syria drinks
    14. +2
      23 October 2015 13: 57
      Most importantly, for them, so that the military field kitchen in the sand does not get stuck, then for sure, they’ll put them all in one blow, while they push it to the worlds
    15. +9
      23 October 2015 13: 59
      sand is the case)
      but there’s still all sorts of dumplings that nullifies any movement at all, and of course our swamps! So we will assume that the Marines got a little tan on the Spanish sunny coast)
      If everyone had done silently without PR - there would have been quietness and smoothness on the air, but the love of narcissism through a demonstration of cheap show-offs - played a bad joke that the whole world is quivering ..
    16. +1
      23 October 2015 13: 59
      This is the idea of ​​"exceptional" warriors. Most likely, the plan was to destroy the enemy with laughter. I would surely be strangled by laughter while watching these movements. laughing
    17. +1
      23 October 2015 14: 00
      And it’s better to train to dig as many Marines as possible into the ground. They run into - but the skill is already there!
      1. 0
        23 October 2015 16: 42
        And it’s better to train to dig as many Marines as possible into the ground. They run into - but the skill is already there!

        Do you offer them to dig full-profile trenches on the beach (in the sand)? Cruel !!!
    18. +2
      23 October 2015 14: 00
      There will be no more "phoning" about the stalled "Armata".
    19. +7
      23 October 2015 14: 00
      The Balts must now begin to do something with the sandy beaches, otherwise if Russia suddenly attacks them, the United States may refuse to help them. laughing
      1. 0
        24 October 2015 13: 01
        Will be concreted ... laughing
    20. +5
      23 October 2015 14: 01
      _____________________________________________________________
    21. +9
      23 October 2015 14: 02
      The wrong country was called Honduras. smile
    22. +4
      23 October 2015 14: 02
      pin.dosia’s marines were pushing their coffins on wheels and threatening potugals for an unpaved beach. Everything is as usual. Remember at Zadorny about the lighthouse and pin. dosovo squadron.
    23. +3
      23 October 2015 14: 04
      As my friend said, "McDonald's and Coca-Cola will do their job!" fool
    24. +3
      23 October 2015 14: 04
      So what do we have? Armored vehicles that are not able to ride on sand. Marines demoralized by this development of events. US partners who are increasingly thinking, but do stripes have troops in general, or is it all a sham?
      1. 0
        23 October 2015 16: 43
        It is not yet demoralized. Now, if there was at least a fake shell there to depict and imitate shelling with the help of firecrackers ...
        I'm not talking about real shelling.
      2. 0
        23 October 2015 20: 30
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        So what do we have? Armored vehicles not able to ride on sand

        I would say - drivers who are not able to ride on the sand!
        HMMWV has a ground clearance of 40,6 centimeters. Permanent all-wheel drive, fully independent suspension of all wheels, large angles of entry and exit, the ability to overcome 34 degree climbs and fords up to 160 centimeters deep combined with high ground clearance make the HMMWV an exceptional off-road vehicle.
        1. 0
          24 October 2015 02: 39
          Come on. Nedozhip this, also fragile, and with a breathtaking price of maintenance, in addition to the acquisition.
          So, a decent heavy rally car, and no more. Already not UAZ and not yet Shishiga. Which will never be. And the attempt to turn him into a BRDM is already a joke for perverts.
          After 20 years of operation, good things will not be looked for a replacement, this is not a civilian market.
          By the way, the Tiger is also a dark figure for me, but it is at least constructively clear and meaningful. He is half of the armored personnel carrier, and with this he is all right.
        2. 0
          25 October 2015 16: 58
          From practice: Hamik is inferior to ALL SUVs in off-road. Arable land, swamp, snow - get stuck everywhere, and try to pull this hippopotamus. I think an armored one is even worse than a "citizen" in this respect. In vain, the Americans refused from Willis;)
      3. +1
        23 October 2015 21: 18
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        US partners who are increasingly thinking, but do stripes have troops in general, or is it all a sham?

        The Hollywood crowd is really expensive, but what can’t you do for the sake of art? laughing
      4. +1
        23 October 2015 21: 59
        plus aviation to combat heavy construction equipment and unmasked nuclear hospitals smile
    25. +1
      23 October 2015 14: 05
      Well, according to the exercise plan, it’s so necessary .... and oil flows from the engine - it’s also so necessary ... and the wheel has disappeared ....! In short, everything is in order)))))
    26. +13
      23 October 2015 14: 05
      ANY technique can get stuck.
      But,...

      1. Why didn’t the scouts work beforehand?
      2. Why did not use a winch and a soil anchor for self-extraction?
      3. Why didn't hovercraft slip to solid ground?
      1. +12
        23 October 2015 14: 20
        add and why the crowd of idiots squatting did not rush to stupidly push technology?
        1. +2
          23 October 2015 21: 24
          Quote: blind
          add and why the crowd of idiots squatting did not rush to stupidly push technology?

          Not a lordly thing! laughing
      2. +2
        23 October 2015 14: 25
        Quote: Shuttle
        ANY technique can get stuck.
        But,...

        laughing However, the Enerals did not think of such a hoax from the Portuguese; they had already gotten used to the stony and hard-earth coverings in Iraq and Libya, and they thought there too.
      3. +5
        23 October 2015 17: 39
        [quote = Shuttle]
        But,...

        1. Why didn’t the scouts work beforehand?
        2. Why did not use a winch and a soil anchor for self-extraction?
        3. Why did not hovercraft slip to solid ground? [/ Quote]
        [/ Quote]
        5. Why is a stuck wheelbarrow only devils in sand coveralls? What are the rest of the paratroopers cooling off?

        Ours would have dragged this wheelbarrow on the mountain. Because together.


        Incidentally, the video found a tuned Tiger. I like it
      4. +1
        23 October 2015 21: 23
        Quote: Shuttle
        ANY technique can get stuck.
        But,...

        Before the landing, we conduct engineering reconnaissance. Whenever you land on the shore, it doesn't matter whether it is a river, a lake or a seaside. In the YUGV in the 80s we used the "Zhuk" IRM. Both the bottom relief and the presence of mine-explosive obstacles were checked. But that was 30 years ago. Why don't striped fish hold? request
        Maybe they hoped for Russian? laughing
      5. +2
        23 October 2015 22: 33
        1. This is intelligence, it’s just all at the same time, why spray in space and time?
        2. Why fuss. You can wait for a good tidal wave (the sea, after all), and it itself will float, float out and float where necessary.
        3. So they didn’t know where he was, solid, and in general is there any where, why in vain to strain?
        They did everything right. The elder - a prize, the rest - diplomas, who first guessed to run away with a shovel - an icon (or badge) and a teacher to thank for education and training. All done.
    27. +8
      23 October 2015 14: 06

      Everything is relative
    28. 0
      23 October 2015 14: 08
      They are for the first time
      http://smexo.tv/video_clip/20491/
    29. +10
      23 October 2015 14: 09
      They don’t get used to, watch from 1:20
      1. +1
        23 October 2015 14: 19
        But why is it they have radars on boats or what? not afraid of exposure?
      2. 0
        23 October 2015 15: 48
        In the video, British clowns hi
      3. 0
        23 October 2015 19: 39
        Quote: SibBars
        They don’t get used to, watch from 1:20

        Cool video, a real crowd of morons, about five meters to the right, hard ground, they climbed into the mud for fun along the way. fool
      4. 0
        24 October 2015 04: 10
        Quote: SibBars
        They don’t get used to, watch from 1:20

        Is it really the coolest army in the world? I cried. Epic freak ... flops. I had the experience of communicating with 3,14ndos, our experienced robotic will be smarter than their chief engineer! No wonder Zadornov said, “Well, stupid!
    30. 0
      23 October 2015 14: 09
      Well, if the army of the most "democratic" country has such training plans, then the homosexuals in their army are part of the plan?
      The question is just for what?
    31. +5
      23 October 2015 14: 10
      This is the lesson for everyone that the army primarily needs the caterpillar equipment. Wheeled vehicles are for counter-terrorism operations and logistics. Only caterpillars are in the first line. I would also put the striker in, I think, but the M113 lane would be like a wound.
      1. +6
        23 October 2015 15: 06
        Quote: Maksus
        This is the lesson for everyone that the army primarily needs the caterpillar equipment.

        The army needs brains. People who plant wheeled vehicles with standard tire pressure on a sandy beach can also plant AAV7 in the sand on their belly.
        -Do you know what happens when you quit the Marine Corps? .. Your brains are being returned to you.
      2. +5
        23 October 2015 15: 36
        The tank is probably more correct on the tracks, but for the landing, you can also have wheeled
      3. +2
        24 October 2015 03: 53
        Yeah. And you take it and try on some MTLB thread to ride on arable land under a downpour, then you will tell your impressions.
        Their bellies are flat and their legs are short. So they stick like flies on a trap, and then you neither pull nor dig.
        Aleksey RA is right - you just need brains and learn on time.
        It was not the intelligence that was to blame for them - they ran into not mines after all, but their own unpreparedness. The map says what is on the beach, meteorologists will say what happened in recent days. Further, since the soldiers did not teach anything, choose a place on the shore that is inaccessible to the kindergarten. Where there are at least some stones where you can heal up. And then they don’t even know how to cling to each other. All sorts of anchors - crap, especially in the sand.
        And it was necessary to send vodyatly to the nearest construction site to stock up with boards - fives, two pieces per wheelbarrow, the length of the base. After loading on boats, everyone will be blown away to the cherished 0,5 atmosphere, turn on all the ponies and locks that they have, drive to the highest gear, which gear to move on, then do not touch anything. Do not switch, do not drive, do not drive, do not brake. Calculate the trajectory in advance so that the turn is with the maximum possible radius. Slightly buksanul - froze, and then on dry sand on toothy rubber easily and naturally buried a meter per box rotation. How did this happen - all the men in straps, boxes, and show-offs spit chewing gum, and throw themselves with boards under the wheels that started to sag. And then on soft ground - all according to the textbook - a wheel buried by a third or more does not go, in principle, only digs in. They will not start on time - they will also dig, and then hold these boards as they want, and they will beat them on the knees and in between. Although that they have eggs there is not a fact. If there is nothing to anchor - for each other, and roll one at a time.
        Yes, and it is imperative to create a Facebook group "Triumphal Landing" at the beginning of the landing, where every minute and with pictures post "Russian, do not shoot, I’m stuck! And" I’ll go out like an atsedova! ", And on the shore it will set a target on both flanks with the designation Stuck cars of cool marines! Don't shoot here! "There is a hybrid war here, this is not a childish joke, Putin and Shoigu should be pressed through all channels so that they would not disagree.

        Enough for now. Hmm. But somehow.
    32. +5
      23 October 2015 14: 10
      The calculation, most likely, was that the enemy would climb out of their shelters from laughter, and the glorious marines would shoot them.
    33. +5
      23 October 2015 14: 11
      the wheels then pit the mind is not enough.
      1. +8
        23 October 2015 14: 18
        Do not give them our military secrets ...
    34. +5
      23 October 2015 14: 13
      Yes guys. These are not Rambo clones or Hollywood. You are in the real world and other laws apply here. It’s strange that I don’t see a mobile kitchen or a big shop near the place of events, as well as a shower, a Coca-Cola stall and a cinema. That's what it means to not prepare!
      1. +1
        23 October 2015 14: 37
        And what's wrong with the fact that soldiers who risk their lives and health create comfortable conditions? And if they like cola and bigmaki, why not bring it. This is bad, I personally do not see anything.
    35. +1
      23 October 2015 14: 15
      According to a Pentagon spokesman:
      such an operation was planned - dry closets with toilet paper were not brought ...
    36. +7
      23 October 2015 14: 16
      Bugagagaga mattresses are not able to pull out the equipment. they probably called 911 and called firefighters for help. pinned down the action of the landing group squatting and obviously waiting for the artillery response of the probable enemy. maybe diapers change ??
      1. +2
        23 October 2015 14: 33
        This is not spelled out in their contracts ...
    37. +1
      23 October 2015 14: 25
      You can write off poor engineering intelligence on the conditions of the exercise. Like an unfamiliar shore, all things. So the technique is useless. Do you think ours would pass?
      1. +3
        23 October 2015 14: 30
        it was necessary to lower the wheels then it would have gone
      2. +14
        23 October 2015 14: 34
        Easy. In the same place, ordinary Ivanov would solve this problem within 2 minutes. one and a half ton of a wheelbarrow pulled out of the sand with a piece of wood. From the snow every year they pull out a variety of techniques in a variety of ways. What I found, then put it under the wheels. How a bullet flies out. The challenge is above all. It would be necessary to pull out, the ships to the figs of a dog would be dismantled.
        And here, well, stuck and figs with them. Think of the teachings. This is easily explained, they are not warriors, not warriors.
        We in the courtyards in childhood played war games, we climbed out of our skin to win.
        Prove now goProve now go
    38. +3
      23 October 2015 14: 28
      In general, now everything became clear. It turns out that the first case of the Marines during the largest NATO exercises in Europe was to master the skills of pushing out armored vehicles. It must have been indicated in the exercise scenario that “the enemy was so mesmerized by the actions of the marines trying to push the armored vehicles”, that he forgot about the opportunity to put them all in one powerful blow ...
      I looked and forgot))
    39. +8
      23 October 2015 14: 31
      About a month and a half ago, the mattress general spoke out in the spirit of the fact that NATO assistance to the Baltic states is very limited, due to the lack of an adequate network of roads and their poor condition. Woodland and wetland limits the maneuver of armored vehicles, and the railway track does not meet the European standard, which makes it difficult to transfer troops and their supply.
      In short, the Baltic states were not lucky, because mattresses can fight only in favorable and comfortable conditions))))
    40. mihasik
      +1
      23 October 2015 14: 31
      This is not Iraqi sand, this is European!) Neighing to colic!)
    41. +2
      23 October 2015 14: 32
      Well-fed, self-righteous, arrogant, heroes of computer games, and there are probably cup holders in the cabin. negative
    42. +1
      23 October 2015 14: 43
      Long-standing joke:
      - Comrade ensign, and crocodiles fly?
      - Who told you such nonsense?
      - Comrade Major.
      - Yes? Well, of course they fly, only very low.
      Reminded. The main thing is not an event, but its interpretation. Actually, it doesn’t matter if the event itself was.
    43. +2
      23 October 2015 14: 45
      Well, they’re stuck and then they’ve stopped attacking! On a get-together or something laughing
      1. +2
        23 October 2015 14: 57
        judging by the video, it turns out that at the gatherings - the heels of the fighters either attack the positions of the defenders, or cover the landing forces, and the fighters (mechanized drivers?), against the background of "hummers", walk leisurely to their full height "scratching their turnips", thinking how to pull out the cars !?! and even the "traffic jam" turned out on the gangway of the landing craft ...
    44. +1
      23 October 2015 14: 51
      but representatives of the American command of the operation decided to attempt to make excuses.

      In my opinion, the US army is simply decomposing: this is not the first such case when no one is interested in the result, first of all, commanders of all levels try to cover their loin with excuses.

      Well, figs with him, not so much news, if you do not know about the unrealistic military budget in 600 yards of greenery (oh ... oh !!! fool ).

      How can I pump such loot into a war machine and not think about the result ???
    45. +1
      23 October 2015 14: 52
      The Americans are completely stupid and illiterate, you look at how they knock on the wheels with their shoes, complete kompets, we tell about it in jokes (only we have beautiful blondes), and we perceive them as from movies, cool supermenchiki, handsome.
      We, too (don’t even persuade), under the patronage of the United States and their sloths, ruined the entire educational process, introduced the Unified State Examination, complete stupidity, children like nervous idiots, stupidly crammed answers, and where is our traditional logic, thinking, and where is the non-standard answer. We had the strongest school in the world, they ruined it ... now our nouveau riche class, with the same education, but with British dressing, and ugly tugriks, children to be taught to teach .. and these are very proud.
      Return our children to a normal, without tear, education, .... otherwise, soon, when we are old, we will watch our grandchildren run around cars, not Americans.
      We go along their route.
    46. +1
      23 October 2015 14: 52
      So many soldiers, warriors, and 2 cars can not push.
      This is what they are taught there?
      And they are now waiting for a tow truck?
      1. 0
        24 October 2015 18: 56
        Hummer is heavy and good current on hard ground sand is not his element!
    47. +1
      23 October 2015 14: 56
      It turns out that there was simply no engineering intelligence of the coast. In addition, when organizing the defense, they would not have been even allowed to reach the coast. And those who got there would have stayed there, along with their armored cars.
    48. 0
      23 October 2015 15: 03
      When the cars get stuck in the sand, the marines will now know how to get them out.

      That is, before Portugal, the Marines did not know this, they will now know.
      Probably nothing will be learned only by those who sent these marines.
      And it pleases.
      -------------
      Now a new expression will appear among the American Marines: "And you went .. to Portugal"
    49. +5
      23 October 2015 15: 04
      For me, it remains a mystery in general their actions, well, let's say the one who planned to land heavy hamers and with great pressure on the ground with only 4 wheels on solid sandstone, as if without comment ...

      But the actions of the soldiers are generally in touch ... Guessing that until the cars got completely on the belly, digging out the wheels and laying overpasses at least out of the means at hand for the wheels is simply not fate ???

      Someone here from the USA amateurs told me that they have such snow there, it’s noticeable that even a child in the Russian Federation knows that if you drop in compacted snow, you need to work with a shovel and caught brushwood with sticks, and not burn the clutch with a smart look imitating violent activity ..
    50. win
      +4
      23 October 2015 15: 05
      the servicemen had to forget about the purpose of the landing for a while and get them to release armored vehicles from the sand captivity.

      And during the hostilities do not forget about the goal?
      1. +2
        23 October 2015 15: 59
        They won’t have time to recall.
    51. 0
      23 October 2015 15: 12
      Hmm... As the advertisement said, “Sometimes it’s better to remain silent”
    52. +1
      23 October 2015 15: 23
      Apparently it was not fate to flatten the wheels, especially considering that, like ours, they have wheel inflation installed in their military wheeled vehicles.
    53. +3
      23 October 2015 15: 26
      The marines did a good job. The teachings have become an excellent opportunity (to express yourself). When cars get bogged down in the sand, the marines will now know how to pull them out.

      If the other side allows the striped military personnel to just push on the sand in the landing zone and push out cars. A couple of good machine guns and they will all stay there. laughing
      One good thing in such a situation is that it will be easier for them to dig graves in the sand. laughing
    54. +1
      23 October 2015 15: 31
      Damn pro! Sand, of course, is smelly and the bats get stuck, but why put on a good face when the game is bad, and so clumsily at that. It's an everyday matter.
    55. -3
      23 October 2015 15: 36
      That's it, VO has fulfilled its function. Enlightened. We sleep peacefully. Americans will defeat themselves. They will get stuck somewhere and cut up everything they can in the Senate.
    56. yan 2015
      +3
      23 October 2015 15: 48
      they forgot to change the Hammer's shoes to beach tires, so they got stuck on the beach.
    57. VP
      0
      23 October 2015 16: 05
      Quote: Finches
      I once had a case during an exercise that to the deployment position of heavy tropospheric stations it was necessary to walk through virgin snow for a couple of kilometers

      It is not the pilots who are involved in planning and supporting landing operations.
    58. +1
      23 October 2015 17: 09
      It's a pity that the American Marines had such an experience. Now the instructions will be corrected.
    59. +1
      23 October 2015 17: 42
      Misunderstandings:

      1) engineering reconnaissance of the landing zone where?
      2) a crowd of people on the shore - they would rush in and take out their humvees
      3) pay attention to the hummer in the background - trying to get out, it twists its wheels - no comments at all...

      2 options:
      - or these are the exercises they have for third world countries like Portugal
      - or the guys were given a curfew and they are just tanning, and their rest was presented to us as an embarrassment.
    60. 0
      23 October 2015 18: 27
      Quote: K-50
      Quote: Wend
      Yes screwed up even on exercises laughing

      Once again, they showed that "Hummers" and others like them are only suitable for driving the Papuans across Africa, but not for amphibious assault landing on an unequipped coast.

      On asphalt roads. belay
    61. 0
      23 October 2015 18: 33
      It must have been stated in the exercise scenario that “the enemy was so fascinated by the actions of the Marines who were trying to push out the armored vehicles” that they forgot about the possibility of killing them all with one powerful blow...

      The enemy will be destroyed with Homeric laughter at the sight of these Marines laughing Straight out - barge haulers on the Volga, honestly laughing
      1. +1
        23 October 2015 21: 49
        Quote: Rusich1980
        Straight out - barge haulers on the Volga, honestly

        Barge haulers on the Volga, with the help of some mother and "Dubinushka", dragged multi-ton barges, not wheeled pepelats laughing
    62. 0
      23 October 2015 18: 43
      They've really crap themselves, in a word, the Americans! It’s immediately obvious that there’s no problem, no result, no results.
      1. 0
        24 October 2015 06: 43
        So please don’t touch this sacred thing!
    63. 0
      23 October 2015 18: 45
      Will there be a second episode - Hummers in the swamp? It will be interesting to see how they will pull it out and how they will justify themselves.
    64. +1
      23 October 2015 18: 47
      I especially liked how the warrior was banging on the hummer wheel with his boot in the background..
      Knock on the wheel, maybe it will wake up and dig itself out...
    65. +1
      23 October 2015 18: 57
      Why did you all attack? Well, they didn’t go well with the landing. They are just learning how to land on the beach. They don’t have Bisons and armored personnel carriers like we do. So they practice digging from water until lunch. wink
    66. +1
      23 October 2015 19: 05
      I read somewhere: our marines capture the coast, and theirs land...
    67. 0
      23 October 2015 19: 34
      What a shame... And they tried to declare the Russian "Caliber" to be of poor quality... But the Spanish media themselves took revenge on the mattresses, avenging the German "Volksfagen"
    68. 0
      23 October 2015 20: 28
      Quote: Rusich1980
      Well, they can scare the Bedouins and Papuans

      Damn, I think even two Bedouins with machine guns, and three or five with RPG-7s, would laugh and take a selfie. (on the main video :) ) And the self-propelled plus, I wanted to post it myself.
    69. +1
      23 October 2015 20: 59
      there you need to keep in mind the details, on the gloomy there is no lowering, it is believed that the traction of an automatic machine with a torque converter is enough, the machine in the latest modifications weighs about 8 tons, you can push it, but it is better not with your hands, but with something like a caterpillar tractor (tank, armored personnel carrier) and when no - you don’t have to try. But the guys are clowns, of course, how are they going to fight with us?
    70. +1
      23 October 2015 22: 27
      There’s one thing I don’t understand: what is the company waiting for on its haunches? Until the cars are pulled out? - stupid. If there is no enemy ahead, leave a military outpost and pull out the armor in a crowd; if there is an enemy, the Hummers and LCACs have already burned out... Go forward, expand the bridgehead, there’s no need to sit in a crowd at the water’s edge. What if it's high tide in an hour? It was especially touching - three people were pushing, at least two were sitting in the car...
    71. 0
      23 October 2015 22: 37
      Cheerful American guys! I'll go and drink some strong coffee for them.
    72. +1
      23 October 2015 23: 41
      If you pour diesel fuel on the sand, it will become like stone. In Soviet times, in the Karakum Desert, dunes were overcome in this way on ordinary ZILs and LAWNs.
    73. +1
      23 October 2015 23: 44
      What should I add here? I’ll just support everyone who laughed heartily at this clownery in the form of “valiant NATO troops.”
      P.C.
      But they really DEGRADE!
    74. 0
      24 October 2015 08: 28
      All your explanations, gentlemen, are ANOTHER GOOD MINE in the process of mediocre Games...
    75. 0
      24 October 2015 08: 41
      It's just a USMC tradition. Even at the beginning of the war with Japan in World War II, the Americans landed on some island (I have now forgotten the name), not knowing that the Japanese had already left this island. So during that attack there were fighting mothers and not just one or two people. That is, “intelligence miscalculated” - this is apparently the usual state of the US Army.
      1. 0
        24 October 2015 12: 17
        August 15, 1943, Kisku Island, Operation Cottage.
    76. +1
      24 October 2015 10: 04
      -The pillboxes are installed, Ser!
      -what pillboxes?
      -Well, you see... There's a story here...
    77. -1
      24 October 2015 10: 05
      Too morbid! even during exercises while performing tactical and operational tasks, everything would look different.
      And most importantly, the advanced assault echelon always lands on floating armored personnel carriers and helicopters (at a distance from the shore), unlike our concept, hovercraft are not used to land the assault echelon, but only displacement boats for M1A1, LAV-25, etc. technology, in short, it’s a pointless exercise to be sarcastic about a couple of stuck Humvees (with automatic transmission) of logistics support units, when the bulk of the landing force has already reached its goals.
      1. 0
        25 October 2015 15: 08
        http://defence-blog.com/photo/photo-u-s-and-portuguese-marines-execute-an-amphib
        ious-landing.html

        A bunch of guards boats LCAC Marines, out of 700-800 (bat-on, company -176 people) on board the DVKD
        "Arlington" LPD-24 *, and a couple of stuck HMMWVs on the footage of Portuguese TV, the main thing is how to present it, apparently, that the failure of the MDO is in its finale.

        * Airborne landing equipment of the DVKD: 2 LCAC type hovercraft, 4 CH-53E helicopters, 14 AAVP-7A1 armored personnel carriers, the landing capacity of which can be found independently, as well as counting the number of flights.

        Quote: Grenader
        Proper landing using the right technique looks like this:

        Well, it’s clear that he’s an expert! This is about showing off in a 100m wide strip. If the writer had probably not been a school military commander, there would not have been so many “+”. I especially liked the reconnaissance group NOT from the depths of the coast, and not revealing the enemy’s defenses, but, on the contrary, “igniting” the enemy’s landing zone, but that’s for the average person, okay!

        The deliberate landing of English newcomers directly under the camera into a muddy estuary (the port of Basra) for the amusement of old-timers is not even worth commenting on.
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    78. 0
      24 October 2015 10: 09
      somehow they are at odds with nature
    79. 0
      24 October 2015 10: 26
      This is a Sign from the Almighty that their time has passed...
    80. 0
      24 October 2015 10: 39
      the result of the operation was the death of the landing party. Not counted.
    81. +1
      24 October 2015 10: 45
      Quote: Bayonet
      Quote: Alf
      80 is heavier, but it goes where the world's best super jeep sits.

      Do you want to argue I will also bury it? I repeat once again, it all depends on the driver! In the case of the Hammers, the fault of the drivers is obvious! They even got stuck and continued to gas, digging even deeper. It was necessary to relieve pressure before the exit to the sand and, most importantly, not to gas! hi

      even my wife, who has never driven off the asphalt, knows this!!
      and the American Marines need special exercises.
      What bothered me and the guys the most in the video was that about the third minute of unsuccessful efforts on the right, a sort of commander came out of the Hummer and started taking selfies..
      and before that, was he there, commanding the driver to press on the gas?
    82. 0
      24 October 2015 10: 51
      And I liked how the marine on the long-range Hummer began to knock on the wheels, apparently hoping that it would help! From 2.15
    83. +1
      24 October 2015 11: 19
      Lord, what will happen to this Portuguese beach now? Surely it will fall under sanctions - since the sand located on it behaved “boldly and dangerously” towards American armored cars...))
    84. 0
      24 October 2015 11: 58
      Considering our eternal off-road conditions and swampy terrain, we are simply invincible in the context of this video. The main thing is that the government does not record this idea, otherwise they will consider that the lack of roads is now our strategic military know-how.
    85. 0
      24 October 2015 12: 12
      Damn sand terminators!!! laughing
    86. 0
      24 October 2015 12: 21
      While the mattress makers were doing physical education, the defenders of the shore could calmly drink tea and admire the heroes with popcorn. And then, like knights, boldly enter into battle laughing
    87. 0
      24 October 2015 12: 58
      That’s how it was intended... yeah... it’s like the British succumbed to the Indians... yy laughing
    88. 0
      24 October 2015 13: 30
      Lord, how armless they are, they stood up and are standing - well, if your all-terrain vehicles, it’s like, you can’t screw a winch in there and have at least one evacuation and rescue vehicle for such a case when disembarking - and this is damn such preparation for the advanced troops - the Marine Corps landing force, as I understand it - it’s tin - I’m wondering who their idiots are, so the operation was clearly planned not by the sergeants, but by the officers.
    89. 0
      24 October 2015 15: 00
      Here in the state of Washington there is a law designed to reduce the number of crimes, it states: “Any driver with criminal intentions must stop upon entering the city and report them by telephone to the chief of police” or in West Virginia - Male citizens are allowed to copulate with any animals whose weight does not exceed 18 kg.
    90. +6
      24 October 2015 16: 40
      Yes, leave me alone from the good people... they fight as best they can. So that they always and everywhere fight and land like this. So that it slips and does not start. It does not load and does not shoot... But only so that it farts and hiccups!
    91. 0
      24 October 2015 17: 44
      Quote: self-propelled
      or are the interests of corporations higher than the interests of the state? if so, then the Russian “Serdyukovism” is baby talk in business “drank”

      That’s right, all this American military fuss is to a large extent the extraction of super-profits for corporations. And they have such drunks in the army that for us it is “shock and awe.” Read how much money they regularly “don’t receive”, containers are lost, cargo disappears, and there is no accounting documentation for the amounts spent.
      Which is not an excuse, of course, for similar cases in our army.
    92. 0
      24 October 2015 18: 54
      geey! They were still stuck on the beaches of France in 1944! then the cooks and the Kraut reservists fired at them! If only Hitler would have given them an elite squad like Das Reich when they landed!
    93. 0
      24 October 2015 19: 00
      excerpt from a satirical verse from CROCODILE magazine. Unfortunately, I don’t remember either the year or the issue number. In the forest, workers are dashing. But water is not a hare’s element!
    94. 0
      24 October 2015 19: 22
      I don't know much about all this landing equipment. But why didn't they pull those Hummers back?
      This ship, on an air cushion, doesn’t reverse? That crap that's still on the ramp - can't it be pulled out in reverse? Why such helplessness?
    95. 0
      24 October 2015 21: 13
      Looks like this is a beach in Leixonches, a suburb of Porto. A huge sandy beach, two kilometers long and 300 meters wide. I was there in 1983. Of course, these would have been immediately gouged by all and sundry. All sailors will confirm this. Well, I think the ground officers will have their say.
    96. 0
      24 October 2015 21: 14
      “The American officer tried to explain the American armored cars stuck in the Portuguese sand as part of the Trident Juncture 2015 exercise plan” - JUST AN AMERICAN OFFICER “GOOD” ORIENTED IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
    97. 0
      25 October 2015 01: 34
      The Armata itself stopped on Red Square. It stalled. Nothing.
      They dragged me away and said that it was planned that way. It's about the same here.
      Hard to learn - easy in battle!
      There is no shame in learning. How much Russian men carried all sorts of junk on their shoulders.
      So far, all sorts of bells and whistles like Ratnikov, etc. have not been delivered to the troops.
    98. 0
      25 October 2015 07: 01
      I especially like the shots where people are kicking the wheels, an excellent principle - and you were kicking the wheels.....
    99. 0
      25 October 2015 08: 04
      I smile in the morning)))))) even a little maliciously - forgive me))))
    100. 0
      25 October 2015 08: 22
      Such “priests” always exist and will exist not only in NATO but also in our country - that’s why it’s training!

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