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A US officer attempted to explain American armored vehicles stuck in Portuguese sand with part of the Trident Juncture-2015 exercise plan.

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One of the topics discussed today News is the "triumphal" landing of the US Marine Corps on a Portuguese beach during exercises Trident Juncture-2015. The “triumph” of the landing was that right after it several armored vehicles were stuck in the deep sand, and the servicemen had to temporarily forget about the purpose of landing and reach for the release of armored vehicles from sandy captivity. Presented video from WarNewsTV:




It would seem that Western military officials still have to admit the complete failure of the landing operation and, in the future, choose places for landing more carefully to avoid further incidents of this kind, but representatives of the American command of the operation decided to try to justify themselves. According to US Army Lieutenant Colonel Eric Hamstra, such an operation was planned ... That is, American armored vehicles stuck in the Portuguese sand, which did not pass even five meters, it turns out to be “part of the plan.”

Eric Hamstra (quote RIA News):

The marines did a good job. The teachings have become an excellent opportunity (to express yourself). When cars get bogged down in the sand, the marines will now know how to pull them out.


Portuguese edition The Observer ironically states that American armored vehicles burned fuel, throwing “banned” substances into the atmosphere many times more than Volkswagen cars were throwing out, for which “non-ecological” engine work the United States instituted a criminal case against the company ...

In general, now everything became clear. It turns out that the first case of the Marines during the largest NATO exercises in Europe was to master the skills of pushing out armored vehicles. It must have been indicated in the exercise scenario that “the enemy was so mesmerized by the actions of the marines trying to push the armored vehicles”, that he forgot about the opportunity to put them all in one powerful blow ...
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  1. Stranger03
    Stranger03 23 October 2015 13: 51 New
    29
    have become excellent

    Target, wow warriors, fellow
    1. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 23 October 2015 13: 53 New
      89
      вместо тысячи слов просто взглянув на картину Репина-"не доехали",я дико и дико ржал от столь прелестной картины... laughing
      1. Vend
        Vend 23 October 2015 13: 59 New
        24
        Yes screwed up even on exercises laughing
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 23 October 2015 14: 02 New
          36
          Quote: Wend
          Yes screwed up even on exercises

          Yes, they just laid eggs in the sand! Turtles always do that! laughing
          1. i80186
            i80186 23 October 2015 14: 23 New
            52
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Yes, they just laid eggs in the sand! Turtles always do that!

            Bayan of course. smile
            1. iConst
              iConst 23 October 2015 14: 32 New
              23
              Quote: i80186
              Bayan of course.
              “It's fun anyway.” smile
              1. mirag2
                mirag2 23 October 2015 15: 26 New
                13
                Да...Если бы это был "день Д"-тут бы их и положили немцы...
                1. severniy
                  severniy 23 October 2015 19: 34 New
                  12
                  first, since this is part of the teachings, then what are the clowns walking around, but not crawling? laughing
                  the second, there having a rest in a shade ..., could be carried out on handles ...
                  and the third, living in Anapa, I know that in such a situation it will help ... just one shovel ... there were warriors from the northern states there ... lol
                  1. drundel861
                    drundel861 26 October 2015 09: 50 New
                    +1
                    Here’s how Zadornov can’t be remembered well ........., and I’m also interested in what’s the winch they have, or is it as much of a benefit as the cross of the Hamer himself?
            2. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 23 October 2015 17: 24 New
              12
              And what? They’ve taken the bridgehead! And waking up!
            3. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 23 October 2015 21: 04 New
              +3
              Commanders are not smart people (and-d-and-o-t-s !!!)! But the soldiers did nothing, without additional commands, to save themselves and their comrades.
            4. just exp
              just exp 24 October 2015 00: 33 New
              +1
              damn, I also wanted to lay out the Saxons.
            5. warriordima
              warriordima 24 October 2015 04: 43 New
              +3
              Thank you, neighing from the heart))
          2. iConst
            iConst 23 October 2015 14: 29 New
            27
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Yes, they just laid eggs in the sand! Turtles always do that!
            - They put Humvee in the sand.

            But the lieutenant colonel’s statement is a paragraph !:
            The marines did a good job. The teachings have become an excellent opportunity (to express yourself). When cars get bogged down in the sand, the marines will now know how to pull them out.
            .

            It's amazing that they learned how to start them before the exercises! laughing
            1. roadsmell
              roadsmell 23 October 2015 15: 17 New
              +3
              Only now, how not to get stuck in the sand - they did not know laughing
          3. self-propelled
            self-propelled 23 October 2015 14: 36 New
            60
            то, что хваленые "хаммеры" (он же HMMWV) далеко не герои на тяжелом бездорожье - это и афроамериканцу ясно (особо когда его одели в броню (имею ввиду HMMWV, а не афроамериканцев smile )). интересно другое - неужели самая "высокоспонсированная" армия не может себе позволить реальный "многогдепроходимец"?! или интересы корпораций выше интересов государства? если так, то российская "сердюковщина" - детский лепет в делах "попила"; если иначе, то высокопоставленные лица в ПентаГОНЕ толком не понимают какое "высокомобильное транспортное средство" необходимо их армии...
            the video itself smiled a little - if all (or most) amers landing operations take place in a similar vein, then such operational forces are worthless.
            1. K-50
              K-50 23 October 2015 15: 32 New
              12
              Quote: self-propelled
              dignitaries at the Pentagon

              Not in Petagon, but in Pontagon. hi laughing yes
            2. ermak.sidorov
              ermak.sidorov 23 October 2015 16: 10 New
              13
              Don’t show this video only to the Portuguese ... after that, looking at the example of Canadians stalling from Syria, I can generally ask the CSTO and be proactive to offer the Russian Federation to deploy a naval base on their territory ...

              ... as a joke, if what ...
              1. madjik
                madjik 23 October 2015 17: 54 New
                +6
                why is it a joke? Putin said: from Vladivostok to Lisbon ... wink
            3. Dr dron
              Dr dron 23 October 2015 18: 02 New
              21
              Us Russian, these landings will not surprise)))

            4. Rusich1980
              Rusich1980 23 October 2015 18: 38 New
              +5
              Well, they can catch the Bedouins and Papuans with fear, but there is no more professional army. Damn, how can you look at these clowns from the weevils show through the sight of SVD or AK? I would laugh laughing
          4. Dryuya2
            Dryuya2 23 October 2015 14: 41 New
            +6
            According to US Army Lieutenant Colonel Eric Hamstra, such an operation was planned ....
            The marines did a good job. The teachings have become an excellent opportunity (to express yourself). When cars get bogged down in the sand, the marines will now know how to pull them out.

            вчера такую же "картинку" из Омска показывали - где пассажиры маршрутку толкают после сильных снегопадов - можно сказать нормы ГТО сдавали winked
          5. ABV
            ABV 23 October 2015 20: 56 New
            +7
            I do not share the common joy, unfortunately (((...
            Для "поржать", конечно, здорово!
            BUT it would be much better if such a jamb got out not in the exercises, but in a real operation!
            and the teachings ... for that, and the teachings, in addition to demonstrating power, also open up your jambs and shortcomings and then correct them.
            Так, что в "Стратегическом плане" произошедшее не так уж и замечательно....хотя психологически - моральный дух конечно выше не станет!))
            1. Ze Kot
              Ze Kot 23 October 2015 23: 51 New
              +6
              So they are still there in a bunch all settled down. Just for mortar or artillery salvo.

              And the driver just forgot to say that you need to lower the tire pressure a little ...
            2. NIKNN
              NIKNN 24 October 2015 14: 06 New
              +4
              You are absolutely right about the objectives of the exercises 200%. Only NATO's goals were just demonstrations of strength, which they did not succeed in, but at the same time the exercises turned out to be, and this really does not please. And do not understand to rejoice or upset. Have to laugh smile
            3. Your friend
              Your friend 25 October 2015 00: 00 New
              0
              Quote: ABV
              it would be much better if such a jamb did not come out during exercises, but in a real operation!
              and the teachings ... for that, and the teachings, in addition to demonstrating power, also open up your jambs and shortcomings and then correct them.

              I agree. From this jamb, the American army will not become weaker. But the situation is really comical, as well as excuses.
            4. Vek
              Vek 25 October 2015 17: 56 New
              0
              I agree, if you drop the comic, it’s bad - they took into account that their hammers go to the beaches very hard, and the next time (maybe combat) they’ll take at least a few boards to put wheels underneath .. :(
        2. Ruthless
          Ruthless 23 October 2015 14: 03 New
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          Какая прелесть!Гегемоны решительно и бесстрашно гегемонят "хаммеры" на пляже! laughing
          Three things can be watched without stopping: how the fire burns, how the money counts for you, and how hummers with amerompekhs lay larvae on the picturesque beaches of Portugal ... laughing
          As Lavrov used to say ... well, you know, in general ... bully
          1. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 24 October 2015 13: 33 New
            0
            Quote: Ruthless
            As Lavrov used to say ...

            woodpeckers! ... damn burned! lol (and for what offended the bird?) request crying
        3. BYV
          BYV 23 October 2015 14: 05 New
          +5
          The exercises became an excellent opportunity (to prove oneself). When the cars get stuck in the sand, the marines will now know how to get them out.

          The exercises became an excellent opportunity (to prove oneself). When they kick our ass, the Marines will now know which side is more convenient to expose. laughing
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 23 October 2015 17: 56 New
            +9
            Сдаётся мне,это не простой песок .Его Путин насыпал,а Шойгу коварно разровнял.Наверно прям из Сирии доставка.Расфасовка мешков 50кг ,название "Привет от Асада".
            In the trucks most likely diapers, stake, hamburgers ... the landing without them forward in any way.
            Please translate what is written below ... I only read GRANDOL ... probably the operation is called that.
            1. Petrix
              Petrix 24 October 2015 22: 45 New
              0
              Quote: Barkhan
              Seems to me it's not just sand

              This is NANO Sand. Field trials were successful. It remains to purchase in due quantity and sprinkle the coast.
        4. Grenader
          Grenader 23 October 2015 14: 42 New
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          Они застряли потому что "Хамеры" не подходящая для десантирования на берег техника и высаживать их можно только на твёрдый берег. Правильное десантирование с использованием нужной техники выглядит вот так :
          1. Baikal
            Baikal 24 October 2015 10: 53 New
            +4
            Quote: Grenader
            Proper landing using the right technique looks like this:

            Thank you for the video. The music is really vile, and the video is great good
        5. K-50
          K-50 23 October 2015 15: 30 New
          +5
          Quote: Wend
          Yes screwed up even on exercises laughing

          Лишний раз показали, что "Хаммеры" и иже сними годятся только папуасов по Африке гонять, но никак не для высадки морского десанта на необорудованное побережье.
          1. morozik
            morozik 23 October 2015 21: 51 New
            +1
            not only the Papuans, they can also drive somewhere on our roads)
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN 24 October 2015 14: 15 New
              +5
              "не только папуасов, по нашим дорогам тоже где-то проехать могут)"
              Гитлера вспомните, какие там хамеры? У нас в ВОВ ихние(американские, английские да и немецкие) ТАНКИ не могли в определенное время года двигаться, а уж по "ДОРОГАМ" нашим....
        6. ASG7
          ASG7 23 October 2015 15: 30 New
          20
          You understand a lot in NATO exercises. Their main goal is to ridicule the Russians to death, but this is what they do and it’s very good. laughing
        7. yushch
          yushch 23 October 2015 15: 40 New
          +5
          They learned how to pull out the equipment, Karl !!!
          It remains only to ask, how, kaaaaak you clowns more than 10 years managed to fight in the sands of Iraq ???
          1. Maxom75
            Maxom75 23 October 2015 16: 08 New
            +6
            Not in Iraq, but a lump led to us in the Volgograd region! Here we spend the race on the Silk Road, so the racers say that we have the most difficult stage of the car get stuck and even racing KAMAZ do not go. We will gladly help to lose their armored cars here to Amer!)))
            1. Mikado
              Mikado 23 October 2015 16: 40 New
              12
              Quote: Maxom75
              Not in Iraq, but a lump led to us in the Volgograd region! Here we spend the race on the Silk Road, so the racers say that we have the most difficult stage of the car get stuck and even racing KAMAZ do not go. We will gladly help to lose their armored cars here to Amer!)))

              The Germans in your area are not only armored cars, somehow they lost an entire army)) True, it was in the winter))
              1. ermak.sidorov
                ermak.sidorov 26 October 2015 05: 33 New
                +4
                Quote: Mikado
                The Germans in your area are not only armored cars, somehow they lost an entire army


                ... and they still haven’t found it ... it’s kind of snowing =)
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          2. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 23 October 2015 16: 33 New
            +1
            Quote: yushch
            It remains only to ask, how, kaaaaak you clowns more than 10 years managed to fight in the sands of Iraq ???
            they used the network of roads built under Saddam and did not leave them. fool
        8. robbihood
          robbihood 23 October 2015 18: 19 New
          +4
          Quote: Wend
          Yes screwed up even on exercises

          I don’t know what rank you, dear, were in the army, and were there at all. And I was in the SA for more than a dozen exercises. And well, if not broken, more than 20% of the equipment, wheeled and tracked. I'm not talking about stalled engines. And this is in ZakVO. where not sand, but rubble and clay. Mocking a potential enemy before the battle may be worth it if you are confident in the performance of the combat mission and your subordinates, but stupidly neighing, as I read here, is not from a great mind. especially if served. And if the landing was in a swampy area? Would you laugh more? I just know the capabilities of Humvee, but are there similar cars in the Russian army? I don’t know, he served in the USSR.
          1. ydjin
            ydjin 23 October 2015 18: 44 New
            +9
            Quote: robbihood
            Quote: Wend
            Yes screwed up even on exercises

            I don’t know what rank you, dear, were in the army, and were there at all. And I was in the SA for more than a dozen exercises. And well, if not broken, more than 20% of the equipment, wheeled and tracked. I'm not talking about stalled engines. And this is in ZakVO. where not sand, but rubble and clay. Mocking a potential enemy before the battle may be worth it if you are confident in the performance of the combat mission and your subordinates, but stupidly neighing, as I read here, is not from a great mind. especially if served. And if the landing was in a swampy area? Would you laugh more? I just know the capabilities of Humvee, but are there similar cars in the Russian army? I don’t know, he served in the USSR.

            I put you +, but where is engineering intelligence? Where is the planning of the landing operation? Damn it!
          2. Bayonet
            Bayonet 23 October 2015 20: 01 New
            -4
            Quote: robbihood
            stupidly laugh, as I read here - this is not from a great mind.

            Correctly! And why upload videos with an armored personnel carrier with 8 wheels versus 4 for Humvee? For example, I saw at the exercises (it was long ago) how one hollow carrier BTR-60 buried on the hub out of the blue, well, I drove it a couple of times to the Gas-66 and drove on, but with what help, the weight category is not the same. smile And the guys on the Hammers see gazanuli sharply on the loose sand, no wonder that buried. Humvee's cross-country ability is excellent, of course in skillful hands, and not the gasket between the steering wheel and the seat. The excuses of Lieutenant Colonel Eric Hamstra are at least naive. smile hi
            1. morozik
              morozik 23 October 2015 21: 56 New
              +1
              they have everything perfectly against papus with spears ... Patency it depends on food
            2. Alf
              Alf 23 October 2015 22: 14 New
              +7
              Quote: Bayonet
              And why upload videos with an armored personnel carrier with 8 wheels versus 4 for Humvee?

              With a gross weight of 13600 kg, BTR-80 has 1700 kg per wheel, and Hammer has 4672-1168 kg. 80 is heavier, but it goes where the world's best super jeep sits.
              1. Bayonet
                Bayonet 23 October 2015 22: 22 New
                0
                Quote: Alf
                80 is heavier, but it goes where the world's best super jeep sits.

                Do you want to argue I will also bury it? I repeat once again, it all depends on the driver! In the case of the Hammers, the fault of the drivers is obvious! They even got stuck and continued to gas, digging even deeper. It was necessary to relieve pressure before the exit to the sand and, most importantly, not to gas! hi
                1. Alf
                  Alf 23 October 2015 23: 50 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Bayonet
                  I repeat once again, it all depends on the driver!

                  So, maybe pindocs should teach drivers to drive not only on highways? And explain to them that in the world there is also impassability?
                  1. Bayonet
                    Bayonet 24 October 2015 12: 33 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Alf
                    So, maybe pindocs should teach drivers to drive not only on highways?

                    For that, teachings are carried out - to teach!
                2. Patriot.ru.
                  Patriot.ru. 24 October 2015 17: 15 New
                  +1
                  It looks like the automatic gearbox is there, and it decides to drive or not and not the driver.
            3. The stranger
              The stranger 24 October 2015 01: 39 New
              13
              Office plankton can be stuck everywhere. Someone and Metromost are mountains. There are places where everything breaks. And these are painted as the coolest pros and warriors of the whole Earth and ten villages around, of all times and binges, and their vagabonds have no idea what to do on a typical obstacle, and the beach is dry, and the path is straight from the sea. The simplest case. Not swampy, not across the dunes, without round stones, God forbid wet. And if they were dropped off wet? And if you need to cross the surf? At most, the fifth wave would take them to the sea, moreover, I’m looking at their actions - most likely with the rest on board.
              And there is no insurance car with winches in the first wave, no sandtracks on cars, no flat tires, not even an attempt to find what to win.
              Clowns, for sure.
            4. Gost171
              Gost171 24 October 2015 01: 51 New
              +1
              I saw the 66th pulling out a loaded TZM-ku, ZIL-131, pulled it out as I wanted, sitting on the bridges, so that the armored personnel carrier could try, well, in general, the wheels were for asphalt, but about the sand ... It was probably hard in the computer
              1. Bayonet
                Bayonet 24 October 2015 06: 10 New
                +1
                Quote: Guest171
                I saw the 66th pulling out a loaded TZM-ku, ZIL-131, I dragged it out as I wanted, I sat on bridges

                If the 66th was well loaded, then it is possible. And if empty - it's useless! He tried to pull out a Zil-130 water carrier, jumped on a cable (slipped) and no use! But in the neighboring Rombat, the 66th with a concrete block in the back, the tracked automatic telephone exchanges easily dragged.
            5. Bayonet
              Bayonet 24 October 2015 06: 13 New
              +2
              Quote: Bayonet
              Humvee's cross is excellent,

              Here you can immediately see the stupid minusers-idiots who have never sat behind the wheel of a military vehicle! And if he sat, then in the form of a gasket! laughing
              1. Victor Demchenko
                Victor Demchenko 24 October 2015 13: 47 New
                +3
                Sasha, hi! for this post + and very big! good I had such a mmm in the platoon ... a cloven-hoofed animal that is staring at a new gate, so he managed to drown the PT-76, an almost unsinkable car ... No.
                1. Bayonet
                  Bayonet 24 October 2015 14: 33 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Viktor Demchenko
                  managed to drown the PT-76,

                  Hi hi A very talented fighter! Such tests should be sent to new equipment, then it will definitely be super reliable smile
          3. GRAY
            GRAY 23 October 2015 20: 46 New
            +3
            Quote: robbihood
            I just know the possibilities of Humvee,

            I also know, therefore this circus on the beach does not surprise me.
            In the Russian army they would be dragged in tow by something tracked.
            1. GRAY
              GRAY 23 October 2015 23: 24 New
              +8
              Quote: GRAY
              In the Russian army they would be dragged in tow by something tracked.

              Yes, only that. In another way, you cannot plant equipment where it cannot pass.
          4. morozik
            morozik 23 October 2015 21: 54 New
            +4
            the point is that the West is trolling amers!) this is the whole tsimus ... This is another of moral victories, along with others)
          5. Alf
            Alf 23 October 2015 22: 05 New
            +8
            Quote: robbihood
            But are there similar cars in the Russian army?

            Есть, называется "Тигр".
          6. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 24 October 2015 13: 37 New
            +7
            you know, but there is even a very worthwhile technique that Hammer will not yield to, BMD-3 for example, or if a wheeled one is needed, then the BTR-82 ... something like that.
            Кстати, то же служил в СССР, так же принимал участие не в одних учениях, одна "Десна" чего стоит, но 20% техники у нас почему то не ломалось... может быть потому что в ПХЗ дни мы технику обслуживали, а не водку жрали? звание на дембель старлей, и тем горжусь.
          7. NIKNN
            NIKNN 24 October 2015 14: 29 New
            +4
            I agree with you.
            " Я просто знаю возможности Хамви, а есть ли в российской армии похожие машины? Не знаю, служил в СССР"
            Есть! Часть "табуреточник" закупал, но и наши есть, вот только в подобных "учениях" не участвовали. Выше было компетентное мнение о том, что данная техника не предназначена для высадки на побережье (генералу ихнему надо было сказать, что они глупость штаба на практике отрабатывали). Хотя думаю если бы наши попали в подобную ситуацию, то просто спустили бы колеса и выехали или еще чего нибудь из русской смекалки применили
        9. Patriot 1
          Patriot 1 23 October 2015 19: 09 New
          +4
          But the marine walked on horseradish and kicked the stuck armored car on the wheels with its boot?! .... Apparently the sand from the top of the wheels shook in this way .... Probably it helped somehow
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          2. robbihood
            robbihood 23 October 2015 20: 49 New
            +2
            Quote: Patriot 1
            But the marine walked on horseradish and kicked the stuck armored car on the wheels with its boot?! .... Apparently the sand from the top of the wheels shook in this way .... Probably it helped somehow

            Well, it's like women, they open the hood, look at the engine for a long, long time, then they touch something if the husband told me (especially the battery terminal) and start calling her husband to come and start the engine.
          3. GRAY
            GRAY 23 October 2015 20: 55 New
            0
            Quote: Patriot 1
            And the horse walked to hell and kicked the stuck armored car on the wheels with its boot ?!

            This, I suppose, is their leader. Then he will be driven to kick for the fact that the tire pressure is not relieved.
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        11. bocsman
          bocsman 24 October 2015 16: 11 New
          +3
          Quote: Wend
          Yes screwed up even on exercises laughing


          In his youth, UAZ-452D was planted so that the rear axle lay on the sand, the front axle was disabled. There was no special key (asterisk), but there was a triangular file and a large screwdriver, and easily drove out. The UAZ cargo pickup truck is by no means a military technique, but as you can see, it is a cut above the vaunted Hamers. And screwed up on the account then in my stripes did it wherever possible. The body of a gorilla with the mind of a monkey can cause many troubles to others, because this monster, among other things, thinks that he is the smartest!
          1. The stranger
            The stranger 24 October 2015 19: 33 New
            +1
            It’s not good with a file, it is terribly hard. A 10 mm square will save the father of world impassability.
        12. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 26 October 2015 00: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: Wend
          Yes screwed up even on exercises

          It turns out the first case of the Marines during the largest NATO exercises in Europe - development of skills for pushing armored vehicles.
          У нас такими навыками обладает любой - от врача сельской "скорой помощи" до дамочки, въехавшей на "Матиссе" в спальный район... Такого экстрима для американцев - зимой в любом дворе...

          А вообще американским "ястребам" нужно крепко подумать, прежде чем идти воевать в Россию. And then they will again dump all their troubles in the cold and off-road ... Napoleon and Hitler over there, too, suddenly found out about Russian impassability. Well, if they found adventure in Portugal in the summer, what will they do in Russia, especially in winter?
      2. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 23 October 2015 14: 04 New
        14
        Fools, hero of the system,
        Rush forward
        Normal heroes
        Always the opposite.

        And we are off the curve
        Do not turn back
        And it will be necessary again
        Let's go the crooked way!

        In my childhood I thought it was a Barmaley song, but it turns out to be the anthem of the mattress marines! fool
      3. Karasik
        Karasik 23 October 2015 14: 31 New
        10
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        ... I was laughing wildly and wildly from such a pretty picture ...

        Similarly, colleague! When accidents occur on the teachings of our potential adversary, they gnarish and maliciously immoral. But when a potential opponent made himself a clown for the whole world - here a smile involuntarily spreads in breadth! And how cute they make excuses -
        "...Учения стали отличной возможностью (проявить себя). Когда автомобили увязнут в песке, морпехи теперь будут знать, как их вытащить."
        Haha three times !!! In the sandbox it was necessary to train with toy cars!
        1. self-propelled
          self-propelled 23 October 2015 14: 49 New
          +5
          Quote: Karasik
          "... The teachings have become an excellent opportunity (to prove oneself). When the cars get stuck in the sand, the marines will now know how to get them out."

          I agree to all 100% - the enemy must always be treated with respect (no matter what the enemy is).
          а вот оправдания смахивают на "I fought about it, but I know how to wipe my ass" (заранее прошу простить за некоторую грубость в высказываниях) repeat
          1. The stranger
            The stranger 24 October 2015 01: 12 New
            +9
            And respect for what, for the kindergarten? We even have on women's tracks in the trial, and I haven’t seen such a disgrace :)
            Stupidly without a clue what to do in the sand, and all things. Chis crap.
            Doctrines, speak? Further more interesting. Well nedojips got stuck, and stuck. It happens. But the actions of the soldiers in this situation directly killed. Here is a chain at a statutory distance of 20 steps from cows floundering on ice, and waiting for them :) But what if they finally can’t get out? And if a shell flew in and there was already no car? And the task of these pedestrians is not feasible without a dead house? And stupidly run away from an excellent motionless target, which they’ll shoot at right now?
            Может в "максимально приближенных к боевым ..." Ага, ща. Водятлы и старшие машин уже без снаряжения, в одних пижамах, болтаются вокруг как туристы. Уже наверно позвонили 911 значит боевая задача выполнена, теперь ждут эвакуатора:))
            I don’t know what their organizational conclusions are, in the place of their battalion commander I would have shot myself, in order to avoid the next short life.
        2. Alf
          Alf 23 October 2015 22: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: Karasik
          Когда автомобили увязнут в песке, морпехи теперь будут знать, как их вытащить."

          And why were cars driven exclusively by white, and blacks by no, in Pindostana the same equality? It smacks of racial discrimination. And why are sand jeeps and spotty green included? Do they have cars of different parts on the same ship? So for this, logisticians and commanders need to be driven with pissed rags for allowing a mixture of parts.
      4. Voha_krim
        Voha_krim 23 October 2015 15: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: Sasha 19871987
        вместо тысячи слов просто взглянув на картину Репина-"не доехали",я дико и дико ржал от столь прелестной картины... laughing

        По-русски ролик называется "Корпус морской пехоты США высадился в Португалии. Don't laugh much".
      5. psiho117
        psiho117 23 October 2015 17: 37 New
        +4
        it’s not clear to me that LCAS couldn’t drive to the ground?
        There is a landing on an unequipped coast, then any force majeure can happen - and quicksand, and mines, and a thorn (in real, not training activities).
        So why are they, as in a parade, lined up in a bunch on a yellow sand, amid a blue lagoon? or their commander have no brains at all? and if mortar fire? after all, a kayuk.
        1. boris-1230
          boris-1230 23 October 2015 20: 14 New
          +3
          and if mortar fire? after all, a kayuk.

          А если "Солнцепёк" пригреет? fool
        2. The stranger
          The stranger 24 October 2015 01: 21 New
          +1
          Тактику учи! Как ты предлагаеш - получиться обычная высадка. А они показывали "триумфальную высадку", она вот так делается!
      6. crumb
        crumb 24 October 2015 09: 18 New
        0
        and I introduced Normandy 44, there wasn’t such garbage there or was it still and America asked the Germans not to shoot until they push the tanks out of the sand?
        1. Zefr
          Zefr 24 October 2015 12: 17 New
          0
          There, it seems, Matilda was landed on a pebble beach. It turned out that the steel tracks slip on wet pebbles, and the tank is not going anywhere. They stayed there.
    2. kil 31
      kil 31 23 October 2015 13: 56 New
      +7
      When the cars get stuck in the sand, the marines will now know how to get them out
      The command that developed the operation will know which coast to choose? lol
      1. Lyton
        Lyton 23 October 2015 14: 03 New
        30
        They haven’t seen our mud as greasy as butter, and I’m not talking about swamps.
        1. K-50
          K-50 23 October 2015 15: 36 New
          +6
          Quote: Lyton
          They haven’t seen our mud as greasy as butter, and I’m not talking about swamps.

          In our mud and tanks are drowning laughing
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 23 October 2015 20: 07 New
            +6
            Quote: K-50
            In our mud and tanks are drowning
            1. morozik
              morozik 23 October 2015 21: 58 New
              +4
              but they’ll pull it out, especially not bothering
            2. Gost171
              Gost171 24 October 2015 02: 23 New
              0
              And what happened? What does he walk on the armor? In the spring and in the fall it’s normal, on dirt roads where the equipment goes, so son, grab a stick and pull out the car. And you have to wash it, but if not all the grandfathers are in the carriage ....
            3. Victor Demchenko
              Victor Demchenko 24 October 2015 13: 53 New
              0
              ну что? щаззз поныряют командир и наводчик, примут грязевые ваннны, выпьют чашечку... чего нибудь и тройной тягой выдернут "утопшего". ну а потом мехвод огребёт по самое то!!! good
          2. Alf
            Alf 23 October 2015 22: 20 New
            +6
            Quote: K-50
            In our mud and tanks are drowning
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      3. Scoun
        Scoun 23 October 2015 14: 22 New
        +7
        Quote: Kil 31
        When the cars get stuck in the sand, the marines will now know how to get them out
        The command that developed the operation will know which coast to choose? lol

        As they write to the video itself in the comments ..... everything is much more prosaic.

        BORIS RUS 13 hours ago
        @ * lana, the tire pressure had to be lowered before climbing into the sand.
        Reply · 36

        Vasya Romashin 2 hours ago
        + qaz261 If you had ever sat in an army car, you would have known that there is a device for adjusting tire pressure without leaving the cab. And there are inscriptions on it; arable land, snow, sand, swamp, so that even Americans could figure it out, but this is probably not the case with the hammers.))
        1. nafanal
          nafanal 23 October 2015 15: 08 New
          +8
          And they don’t even have a simple winch for self-extraction. And these shibzdiki gathered to fight with us.
        2. win
          win 23 October 2015 20: 55 New
          +4
          And there are inscriptions on it; arable land, snow, sand, swamp, so that even Americans could figure it out, but apparently this is not in the hammers

          Or maybe they don’t know how to read ...
      4. self-propelled
        self-propelled 23 October 2015 15: 09 New
        +4
        Quote: keel 31
        The command that developed the operation will know which coast to choose?

        maybe asphalt ??? smile
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 23 October 2015 13: 57 New
      33
      laughing
      Quote: Stranger03
      have become excellent

      Target, wow warriors, fellow

      In real life, they would have won, because the opponents would have died from the wild rzhach that gripped them at the sight of these miraculous warriors.
    4. Finches
      Finches 23 October 2015 14: 04 New
      +4
      This is an experience for everyone - that taking into account physical and geographical conditions, climatic conditions ... is extremely important when planning a combat mission! Reconnaissance is an essential element! You need to know and understand the capabilities of technology. As I had a case in the exercises, it took a couple of kilometers to go to the position of deploying heavy tropospheric stations on virgin snow, and I hoped that winter was not snowy and I couldn’t guess ... I had to tinker with it until we got there and walked well with a margin of time. Otherwise, all the standards would have crawled! I would not laugh at the Americans - for that they are the teachings that would learn from them!
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 23 October 2015 14: 13 New
        29
        Maybe this method of training should be carried out in the USA ...?)))) drinks
      2. Varyag_1973
        Varyag_1973 23 October 2015 14: 17 New
        24
        For the finchs. And what when planning the landing, the command of the landing did not think of conducting elementary topographic reconnaissance of the landing area ?! Or they are not taught them in their academies ?! And to think before you do something is not fate ?! The head is given to think, but in the case of mattresses, to have it!

        I need to learn from the exercises, I agree, but in this case, the exercises should have ended without beginning! Because while these heroes heroically pulled their tins from the sand, they would have been destroyed ten times! A normal commander would have fallen into such a situation (although a normal commander would not have fallen into such a situation), would have ordered this armor to be abandoned and a bridgehead occupied! Then having strengthened at the given lines and having provided defense, it would be possible to calmly pull out the equipment!
        1. Finches
          Finches 23 October 2015 14: 28 New
          +2
          You speak common truths, but you and I don’t know - what will be their debriefing and who will be removed from office? And it’s hard to say from the article how the commanders acted in this situation ... I mean, this is not a special reason to neigh over the American warriors - I, behold, personally a soldier like them, made the same mistakes and made conclusions ! And with all my hatred of the Anglo-Saxons, I don’t laugh at the military, because I know that this bread is not easy ... I’m better at Psaki, the State Department or Obama, with your permission! hi
          1. The stranger
            The stranger 25 October 2015 00: 20 New
            0
            Listen, what mistakes? Such a word is absolutely out of place here.
            The Marines, who did NOT SEE the beach at all, could be called anything, just not a mistake. Is it that if the recruits with the service in one gateway, but then where are their commanders? And why did this civil rabble end up in the training area?

            People on this video, for the first time in their lives, ended up in the sand with cars, and what is more, it’s obvious to everyone in the frame. To the techies, or whoever is in their overalls, too.

            I’m responsible for the bazaar.
            So - let them send the chief of the Marine Corps to replace the McCain, say, a monkey of the same caliber, this one is probably even younger.
        2. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 23 October 2015 17: 48 New
          +6
          What really impressed me was exactly HOW they pulled out their Hammers. You are talking about very serious matters - academies, education, training, topography ... yes, look at them! People for the next cocktail on the beach go faster, even pretty drunk.
          Calmly, imposingly, kicking the sand, the valiant marines wander. Is someone stuck? So what? Nobody helps anyone. Nothing bothers anyone. Everyone in a wonderful mood is crawling like sleepy flies or just sitting.
          I don’t see any teachings here at all, it’s a walk through a terrain that’s not very suitable, and that’s all. By the way, Hammer on sand eats up to 400 liters per hundred. This is if it is traveling, if it is not, so more ...
      3. sabakina
        sabakina 23 October 2015 14: 39 New
        +8
        Quote: Finches
        This is an experience for everyone - taking into account the physical and geographical conditions, climatic conditions ... I would not laugh at the Americans - they are exercises for that, to learn from them!

        They told. In Central Asia, for example, GAZ-69 and UAZ-469 were buried on glass .... GAZ left on its own.
        Maybe a fairy tale, maybe truth. 69- the beast on the cross the beast.
        And about experience ... We gained three great wars of experience
        1. Finches
          Finches 23 October 2015 14: 40 New
          +4
          It’s hard to find equal pedestrians among wheeled vehicles at the time of its release! I haven’t seen him in the service, but I also remember the GAZ -69, awesome patency!
          And about the war, you are absolutely right! hi
          1. Aurum
            Aurum 23 October 2015 21: 47 New
            +1
            Да, соглашусь, для "шишиги" мало непреодолимых направлений, но надежность движков- увы. В последние время застал на них экспериментальные дизельные двиглы с воздушным охлаждением. Вроде как хвалили.
            Еще вспомню добрым словом "Урал" с МаЗ-овским движком. Вытаскивали им застрявший в грязи БРДМ, то есть УРАЛ проехал там , где увязла брдмка
            1. Finches
              Finches 23 October 2015 22: 17 New
              0
              Ural-4320 with MAZ, a low-speed engine is a thing !!!!
              1. Disant
                Disant 23 October 2015 23: 47 New
                0
                then ZIL-131 all-wheel drive to the heap!
                1. The stranger
                  The stranger 24 October 2015 01: 50 New
                  0
                  And it is always four-wheel drive if not broken, but compared to Koluna (ZIL-157) - it does not go.
                  The Urals is a thing, but it’s never a people's car. Too expensive, 6 times more expensive than 131-o.
                2. Victor Demchenko
                  Victor Demchenko 24 October 2015 13: 59 New
                  0
                  you forgot about Kolun (ZIL-157 if that) ... this is really a passable technique!
            2. ydjin
              ydjin 24 October 2015 03: 42 New
              0
              Quote: Aurum
              Да, соглашусь, для "шишиги" мало непреодолимых направлений, но надежность движков- увы. В последние время застал на них экспериментальные дизельные двиглы с воздушным охлаждением. Вроде как хвалили.
              Еще вспомню добрым словом "Урал" с МаЗ-овским движком. Вытаскивали им застрявший в грязи БРДМ, то есть УРАЛ проехал там , где увязла брдмка

              Sorry, I’ll invest 2 kopecks, the so-called Mazovian engine is the YaMZ 238 produced in Russia at the Yakhroma Engine Plant! Phenomenal engine, V-shaped, turbocharged version generally a song!
        2. Varyag_1973
          Varyag_1973 23 October 2015 14: 50 New
          +9
          Для sabakina. Без всяких рассказов лично наблюдал. Дело было в Белгороде лет 10 назад. Проливной дождь, почва размякла до состояния болота, "Нива" попыталась проехать вдоль дома по грунту и провалилась! Правая сторона ушла в почву почти по крышу, зеркала утонули точно, левая водительская по зеркало просела, задок чуть выше, капот полностью утонул. Стою смотрю и глазам не верю, водила включает оба моста, грязь летела этажа до пятого, так он выехал, реально из жижи выехал кусок грязи, который до этого был белой "Нивой"! Жалко тогда не было у меня телефона с камерой, вот то был экстрим!
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 23 October 2015 18: 45 New
            +2
            For Varyag_1973.
            Thanks for the information.
            Мне несколько лет назад пришлось на Ниве, коротыше,по весне выехать на поле по работе. Резина была родная, так называемая "нивовская". Забуксовал, сел на мост...Помог родной трактор "Беларус" и стальной трос, лямка подло рвалась. думаю. была бы резина широкая, "Кама", проблем не было бы...
            1. Alf
              Alf 23 October 2015 22: 25 New
              +7
              У нас и трактора "подводного хода".
              1. Karasik
                Karasik 23 October 2015 23: 54 New
                +1
                This is your video, this is really cool! Looked twice. And every time for some reason I was worried about the driver! To leave such a ... when the engine is almost submerged! With this technique, we are invincible!
                1. The stranger
                  The stranger 24 October 2015 02: 00 New
                  +2
                  And what about him until the snorkel and exhaust flooded.
                  True, after this, you may have to replace all the oils in all units if you bathed for a long time. And so - nothing.
          2. Bayun
            Bayun 25 October 2015 16: 37 New
            0
            We broke through 90 km on an ordinary Niva along a logging road in Kemsky volost. There, cars with wheels of 2 meters high ride. Gone. 2 times they dived on the glass in a liquid, once they died out for half a second, but the pickup worked. Frankly, the driver was an experienced superprofile, but he himself did not believe that they had climbed. Yes, there was also a trailer trough with a quadric, and the machine was also ... white. Probably the color is the whole secret;)
        3. Bayonet
          Bayonet 23 October 2015 20: 52 New
          0
          Quote: sabakina
          They told. In Central Asia, for example, GAZ-69 and UAZ-469 were buried on glass .... GAZ left on its own.
          Maybe a fairy tale, maybe truth.

          Story! If the car is not a pity - try laughing
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 23 October 2015 22: 07 New
            +2
            Quote: Bayonet
            Quote: sabakina
            They told. In Central Asia, for example, GAZ-69 and UAZ-469 were buried on glass .... GAZ left on its own.
            Maybe a fairy tale, maybe truth.

            Story! If the car is not a pity - try laughing

            Штык, лично для Вас! Помню, ехал полем зимой в деревню на УАЗ 452-буханка (работал в ЦРБ на инфекционке), справа шёл трактор, ну так, а вдруг застряну. "Пахал" бампером поле, но трактор не понадобился! (Правда пришлось пониженную включить) Штык, лучше застрелись!...
            1. Finches
              Finches 23 October 2015 22: 18 New
              0
              Do not touch the bayonet - he is blissful! laughing

              Sasha, I'm joking! hi
    5. andre
      andre 23 October 2015 14: 12 New
      +5
      What would ours do? They would just have pulled them in their arms. And these stupid people are ... they are sitting !!! drinks
      1. Sorokin
        Sorokin 23 October 2015 17: 10 New
        +2
        I agree, as a commander of an auto-detachment. Two teams are enough. They took him to the car at once. From other cars they will run up
        1. common man
          common man 23 October 2015 18: 04 New
          +4
          Quote: Sorokin
          Two teams are enough. They took him to the car at once. From other cars they will run up

          Это у нас. А у них все по другому. Есть такая книга, "Американский ВМФ во второй мировой войне". Автор Морисон С.Э. Так вот. При высадке десантов на острова боевые роты высаживались на берег и если не воевали, то усаживались под бережок и ждали пока инженерные части разгружали боеприпасы.вооружения и т.д. И если даже "грузчики" не справлялись, сами не участвовали. Не царское это дело. То-же самое на видео. Пара технарей вокруг хамеров бегают, а десяток вояк преспокойно ждут, когда их в эти хамеры посадят и повезут воевать. А толкать, "это не по-нашей части".
      2. Alf
        Alf 23 October 2015 22: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: andre
        They would just pull them in their arms.

        Amer’s contracts clearly state what the marine should do and what the marine should not. And the hand grasp of the sunken car is not there, we must wait for technical assistance. The only question is: Will the enemy wait?
    6. ydjin
      ydjin 23 October 2015 15: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Stranger03
      have become excellent

      Target, wow warriors, fellow

      Оне, американские вояки видимо думали что им как светочам демократии и самым "исключительным в мире" подвластно всё? Дэбилы, даже разведку и оперативное планирование не произведя, а если это не полигон корешей по нато, да в условиях огневого противодействия? Жареное мясо!
    7. 222222
      222222 23 October 2015 16: 01 New
      +2
      Американский офицер попытался объяснить застрявшие в португальском песке американские броневики частью плана учений Trident [email protected]@ ""
      ...А тут как тут налетело "ТОРНАДО " и " СМЕРЧЬ" и снеба посыпался " ГРАД"... laughing
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    10. 78bor1973
      78bor1973 24 October 2015 06: 30 New
      0
      Противник просто дико "ржал" и делал селфи на фоне застрявших "хаммеров", а были бы не на автомате машинки то выехали бы гораздо быстрее!
    11. Vek
      Vek 25 October 2015 17: 49 New
      0
      Отвратительная новрсть т.к. "Когда автомобили увязнут в песке, морпехи теперь будут знать, как их вытащить"
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 23 October 2015 13: 52 New
    31
    They forgot to put the paver first and take the mobile asphalt plant with you ... !!! wassat
    But seriously, then - are they really so stupid, as Zadornov says, that the mind is not enough to lower the tire pressure ??? fool
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 23 October 2015 14: 13 New
      15
      Quote: sever.56
      are they really so stupid, as Zadornov says, that the mind is not enough to lower the tire pressure ???

      You think the only thing is the pressure in the tires? there it’s necessary to turn on the lower part, digging it out - it’s a lot easier to do it with sand, and you would have to swing it, and then quietly quietly and drive through, but to hell there! - I suppose automatic boxes are everywhere ... Comfort and technology are above all, then they are surprised when they pick up some from the Papuans.
      My friend was resting in Estonia. So the brave NATO warriors (Amer with the locals) came to their hotel to train in the pool in full outfit (without weapons only)! Because in the Baltic Sea some kind of non-comme il faut ...
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      2. sever.56
        sever.56 23 October 2015 14: 26 New
        0
        I agree with you. It is necessary to cut both the demultiplier and the lock. And if there are winches, then catch on, if there is anything.
        1. boris-1230
          boris-1230 23 October 2015 20: 26 New
          +2
          It is necessary to cut both the demultiplier and the lock. And if there are winches, then catch on, if there is anything.

          Recently I watched in Yu-tuba how Siberians in winter pulled a jeep from Baikal from under the ice. Cool! good
          1. Siberian
            Siberian 23 October 2015 22: 21 New
            +1
            And would you know how many of them there are still waiting for their happy hour. Unfortunately, I didn’t see how they pulled it out, but how I drove it under the ice ... a song - it turns out, of my own free will, to roll across the ice, leaving the inspectors of the reserve from the shore to the ice, such an audience does not ride on Lada and Zhiguli, only jeeps different stripes.
        2. K-50
          K-50 23 October 2015 21: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: sever.56
          It is necessary to cut both the demultiplier and the lock. And if there are winches, then catch on, if there is anything.

          Even if there is nothing to catch on, there are so-called anchors. They are driven into the ground (any), cling to them with a winch and only go. BUT! this is with us. How do you have a big one? request lol
          1. The stranger
            The stranger 24 October 2015 02: 17 New
            0
            Yes, do not hold all this beauty of different designs nothing. And in the sand - there’s nothing to catch at all. And in general from the cart - except that digging in the spare wheel works.
      3. Bayonet
        Bayonet 23 October 2015 20: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Corsair
        You think the only thing is the pressure in the tires?

        Of course, it was necessary to reduce and not to fool around foolishly, but in a stretch.
        Quote: Corsair
        and with the buildup

        Humvee has an automatic gearbox, what kind of buildup is it?
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 23 October 2015 14: 17 New
      10
      Quote: sever.56
      But seriously, then - are they really so stupid, as Zadornov says, that the mind is not enough to lower the tire pressure ???

      There, in addition to reducing pressure, it would not hurt to work with a shovel. Otherwise even on half all the same, they would continue to bury themselves.

      Ehhh ... and how much joy was some with в прошлом году, когда "Тигр" не с первой попытки переехал через поребрик. smile
      1. jjj
        jjj 23 October 2015 15: 23 New
        +1
        But still lucky that the sands are not quicksand
    3. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 23 October 2015 16: 37 New
      +1
      At the same time, at the landing in Normandy in 1944, for such cases, roll and panel mobile flooring were stocked. Even their own experience is not studied.
  3. Egevich
    Egevich 23 October 2015 13: 53 New
    +3
    oh come on. these are flowers. then there will be berries.
  4. IsailoR
    IsailoR 23 October 2015 13: 53 New
    +8
    Do not believe the Americans!
    They are specially pretending to be the whole world!
    And at the decisive moment they will blow me, oh !!!
    laughing laughing laughing
  5. A-Sim
    A-Sim 23 October 2015 13: 54 New
    +1
    A trifle. Trifle.
    The main thing is that the manufacturer continues to support the election headquarters of the candidates.
  6. TSOOBER
    TSOOBER 23 October 2015 13: 54 New
    +2
    Just a log of the wrong system! But it would come in handy!
  7. mishastich
    mishastich 23 October 2015 13: 54 New
    +1
    The dumbest hedgehog understands that the Humvee is stuck! You have a hovercraft!
  8. made13
    made13 23 October 2015 13: 54 New
    +2
    Peacetime Army? It’s normal for a war with the Papuans, but even a black man with AK and RPGs will leave only corpses after such a landing. True, it is very likely that only once - the first.
  9. glotich
    glotich 23 October 2015 13: 55 New
    +4
    and their mind didn’t have enough wheels to let them go, and then drive out onto the sand? to see them elementary things are not taught.
  10. snifer
    snifer 23 October 2015 13: 55 New
    14
    and at this time igil strengthens its air defense wassat

    1. PROXOR
      PROXOR 23 October 2015 14: 25 New
      +5
      YAPLAKAL !!!!!!! laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
    2. blind
      blind 23 October 2015 14: 27 New
      +2
      Mr. @ bottom-and-mine miner (probably the idea was stolen from the Ukrainians) or maybe they launched Russia instead of cruise missiles? then it's g @ ndon cruise missiles
  11. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 23 October 2015 13: 55 New
    +1
    The marines did a good job. The teachings have become an excellent opportunity (to express yourself). When cars get bogged down in the sand, the marines will now know how to pull them out.


    Based on the logic of the American officer, the next plan will be to save the crew of the crashed, due to technical reasons or the human factor, a helicopter or an airplane. belay

    As I understand it, Dear colleagues. hi
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 23 October 2015 14: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      the next plan will be to save the crew of the crashed, due to technical reasons or the human factor, a helicopter or an airplane.

      laughing You missed the sinking of the ship in order to work out according to the plan what the NATO marines need to do if the BDK is sinking.
  12. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 23 October 2015 13: 56 New
    +5
    the marines will now know how to get them out.
    .. Stupid command and stupid armless marines ..
    It’s painful to watch them pull out the equipment ..
  13. Igor39
    Igor39 23 October 2015 13: 56 New
    +3
    And what tire pressure can not be relieved from them?
    1. Denis DV
      Denis DV 23 October 2015 14: 12 New
      +8
      It’s possible, current blowers are now blowing up gondoms in Syria drinks
  14. Gor-1974
    Gor-1974 23 October 2015 13: 57 New
    +2
    Most importantly, for them, so that the military field kitchen in the sand does not get stuck, then for sure, they’ll put them all in one blow, while they push it to the worlds
  15. lukke
    lukke 23 October 2015 13: 59 New
    +9
    sand is the case)
    but there’s still all sorts of dumplings that nullifies any movement at all, and of course our swamps! So we will assume that the Marines got a little tan on the Spanish sunny coast)
    If everyone had done silently without PR - there would have been quietness and smoothness on the air, but the love of narcissism through a demonstration of cheap show-offs - played a bad joke that the whole world is quivering ..
  16. novikov64
    novikov64 23 October 2015 13: 59 New
    +1
    This is the idea of ​​"exceptional" warriors. Most likely, the plan was to destroy the enemy with laughter. I would surely be strangled by laughter while watching these movements. laughing
  17. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 23 October 2015 14: 00 New
    +1
    And it’s better to train to dig as many Marines as possible into the ground. They run into - but the skill is already there!
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 23 October 2015 16: 42 New
      0
      And it’s better to train to dig as many Marines as possible into the ground. They run into - but the skill is already there!

      Do you offer them to dig full-profile trenches on the beach (in the sand)? Cruel !!!
  18. V.ic
    V.ic 23 October 2015 14: 00 New
    +2
    Не будут более "фонить" про заглохшую "Армату".
  19. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 23 October 2015 14: 00 New
    +7
    The Balts must now begin to do something with the sandy beaches, otherwise if Russia suddenly attacks them, the United States may refuse to help them. laughing
    1. NewDoctor
      NewDoctor 24 October 2015 13: 01 New
      0
      Will be concreted ... laughing
  20. Engineer
    Engineer 23 October 2015 14: 01 New
    +5
    _____________________________________________________________
  21. Vad3im
    Vad3im 23 October 2015 14: 02 New
    +9
    The wrong country was called Honduras. smile
  22. pts-m
    pts-m 23 October 2015 14: 02 New
    +4
    pin.dosia’s marines were pushing their coffins on wheels and threatening potugals for an unpaved beach. Everything is as usual. Remember at Zadorny about the lighthouse and pin. dosovo squadron.
  23. samara-58
    samara-58 23 October 2015 14: 04 New
    +3
    Как говорил мой знакомый-"макдоналдс и кока-кола сделают свое дело!" fool
  24. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 October 2015 14: 04 New
    +3
    So what do we have? Armored vehicles that are not able to ride on sand. Marines demoralized by this development of events. US partners who are increasingly thinking, but do stripes have troops in general, or is it all a sham?
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 23 October 2015 16: 43 New
      0
      It is not yet demoralized. Now, if there was at least a fake shell there to depict and imitate shelling with the help of firecrackers ...
      I'm not talking about real shelling.
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 23 October 2015 20: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      So what do we have? Armored vehicles not able to ride on sand

      I would say - drivers who are not able to ride on the sand!
      HMMWV has a ground clearance of 40,6 centimeters. Permanent all-wheel drive, fully independent suspension of all wheels, large angles of entry and exit, the ability to overcome 34 degree climbs and fords up to 160 centimeters deep combined with high ground clearance make the HMMWV an exceptional off-road vehicle.
      1. The stranger
        The stranger 24 October 2015 02: 39 New
        0
        Come on. Nedozhip this, also fragile, and with a breathtaking price of maintenance, in addition to the acquisition.
        So, a decent heavy rally car, and no more. Already not UAZ and not yet Shishiga. Which will never be. And the attempt to turn him into a BRDM is already a joke for perverts.
        After 20 years of operation, good things will not be looked for a replacement, this is not a civilian market.
        By the way, the Tiger is also a dark figure for me, but it is at least constructively clear and meaningful. He is half of the armored personnel carrier, and with this he is all right.
      2. Bayun
        Bayun 25 October 2015 16: 58 New
        0
        Из практики: Хамик уступает ВСЕМ внедорожникам по внедорожности. Пашня, болото, снег - вязнет везде, и попробуй эту бегемотину вытянуть. Думаю, бронированный в этом отношении еще хуже "гражданина". Зря американцы от Виллисов отказались;)
    3. K-50
      K-50 23 October 2015 21: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      US partners who are increasingly thinking, but do stripes have troops in general, or is it all a sham?

      The Hollywood crowd is really expensive, but what can’t you do for the sake of art? laughing
    4. Aurum
      Aurum 23 October 2015 21: 59 New
      +1
      plus aviation to combat heavy construction equipment and unmasked nuclear hospitals smile
  25. YaMZ-238
    YaMZ-238 23 October 2015 14: 05 New
    +1
    Well, according to the exercise plan, it’s so necessary .... and oil flows from the engine - it’s also so necessary ... and the wheel has disappeared ....! In short, everything is in order)))))
  26. Shuttle
    Shuttle 23 October 2015 14: 05 New
    13
    ANY technique can get stuck.
    But,...

    1. Why didn’t the scouts work beforehand?
    2. Why did not use a winch and a soil anchor for self-extraction?
    3. Why didn't hovercraft slip to solid ground?
    1. blind
      blind 23 October 2015 14: 20 New
      12
      add and why the crowd of idiots squatting did not rush to stupidly push technology?
      1. K-50
        K-50 23 October 2015 21: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: blind
        add and why the crowd of idiots squatting did not rush to stupidly push technology?

        Not a lordly thing! laughing
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 23 October 2015 14: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Shuttle
      ANY technique can get stuck.
      But,...

      laughing However, the Enerals did not think of such a hoax from the Portuguese; they had already gotten used to the stony and hard-earth coverings in Iraq and Libya, and they thought there too.
    3. Shuttle
      Shuttle 23 October 2015 17: 39 New
      +5
      [quote = Shuttle]
      But,...

      1. Why didn’t the scouts work beforehand?
      2. Why did not use a winch and a soil anchor for self-extraction?
      3. Why did not hovercraft slip to solid ground? [/ Quote]
      [/ Quote]
      5. Why is a stuck wheelbarrow only devils in sand coveralls? What are the rest of the paratroopers cooling off?

      Ours would have dragged this wheelbarrow on the mountain. Because together.


      Incidentally, the video found a tuned Tiger. I like it
    4. K-50
      K-50 23 October 2015 21: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: Shuttle
      ANY technique can get stuck.
      But,...

      У нас перед высадкой проводится инженерная разведка. При любой высадке на берег, не важно реки, озера или морское побережье. У нас в ЮГВ в 80-х использовались ИРМ "Жук". Проверялось как рельеф дна, так и наличие минно-взрывных заграждений. Но это было 30 лет назад. Почему полоссатые не проводят? request
      Может на русский "авось" понадеялись? laughing
    5. Siberian
      Siberian 23 October 2015 22: 33 New
      +2
      1. This is intelligence, it’s just all at the same time, why spray in space and time?
      2. Why fuss. You can wait for a good tidal wave (the sea, after all), and it itself will float, float out and float where necessary.
      3. So they didn’t know where he was, solid, and in general is there any where, why in vain to strain?
      They did everything right. The elder - a prize, the rest - diplomas, who first guessed to run away with a shovel - an icon (or badge) and a teacher to thank for education and training. All done.
  27. lurk
    lurk 23 October 2015 14: 06 New
    +8

    Everything is relative
  28. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 23 October 2015 14: 08 New
    0
    They are for the first time
    http://smexo.tv/video_clip/20491/
  29. Sibbars
    Sibbars 23 October 2015 14: 09 New
    10
    They don’t get used to, watch from 1:20
    1. blind
      blind 23 October 2015 14: 19 New
      +1
      But why is it they have radars on boats or what? not afraid of exposure?
    2. Denis DV
      Denis DV 23 October 2015 15: 48 New
      0
      In the video, British clowns hi
    3. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 23 October 2015 19: 39 New
      0
      Quote: SibBars
      They don’t get used to, watch from 1:20

      Cool video, a real crowd of morons, about five meters to the right, hard ground, they climbed into the mud for fun along the way. fool
    4. ydjin
      ydjin 24 October 2015 04: 10 New
      0
      Quote: SibBars
      They don’t get used to, watch from 1:20

      Неужеле это самая "крутаяармиявмире" , я плакаль. Эпические долбо...шлёпы. Имел опыт общения с 3,14ндосами, наш роботяга опытный будет поумней ихнего главного инжинера!Недаром всётоки Задорнов говорил, - ну тупые!
  30. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 23 October 2015 14: 09 New
    0
    Ну если у армии самой "демократичной" страны такие планы учений, значит и педерасты в их армии, это часть плана?
    The question is just for what?
  31. Maksus
    Maksus 23 October 2015 14: 10 New
    +5
    This is the lesson for everyone that the army primarily needs the caterpillar equipment. Wheeled vehicles are for counter-terrorism operations and logistics. Only caterpillars are in the first line. I would also put the striker in, I think, but the M113 lane would be like a wound.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 23 October 2015 15: 06 New
      +6
      Quote: Maksus
      This is the lesson for everyone that the army primarily needs the caterpillar equipment.

      The army needs brains. People who plant wheeled vehicles with standard tire pressure on a sandy beach can also plant AAV7 in the sand on their belly.
      -Do you know what happens when you quit the Marine Corps? .. Your brains are being returned to you.
    2. 110600122708
      110600122708 23 October 2015 15: 36 New
      +5
      The tank is probably more correct on the tracks, but for the landing, you can also have wheeled
    3. The stranger
      The stranger 24 October 2015 03: 53 New
      +2
      Yeah. And you take it and try on some MTLB thread to ride on arable land under a downpour, then you will tell your impressions.
      Their bellies are flat and their legs are short. So they stick like flies on a trap, and then you neither pull nor dig.
      Aleksey RA is right - you just need brains and learn on time.
      It was not the intelligence that was to blame for them - they ran into not mines after all, but their own unpreparedness. The map says what is on the beach, meteorologists will say what happened in recent days. Further, since the soldiers did not teach anything, choose a place on the shore that is inaccessible to the kindergarten. Where there are at least some stones where you can heal up. And then they don’t even know how to cling to each other. All sorts of anchors - crap, especially in the sand.
      And it was necessary to send vodyatly to the nearest construction site to stock up with boards - fives, two pieces per wheelbarrow, the length of the base. After loading on boats, everyone will be blown away to the cherished 0,5 atmosphere, turn on all the ponies and locks that they have, drive to the highest gear, which gear to move on, then do not touch anything. Do not switch, do not drive, do not drive, do not brake. Calculate the trajectory in advance so that the turn is with the maximum possible radius. Slightly buksanul - froze, and then on dry sand on toothy rubber easily and naturally buried a meter per box rotation. How did this happen - all the men in straps, boxes, and show-offs spit chewing gum, and throw themselves with boards under the wheels that started to sag. And then on soft ground - all according to the textbook - a wheel buried by a third or more does not go, in principle, only digs in. They will not start on time - they will also dig, and then hold these boards as they want, and they will beat them on the knees and in between. Although that they have eggs there is not a fact. If there is nothing to anchor - for each other, and roll one at a time.
      Да, и объязательно с началом высадки создать фейсбукгруппу "Триумфальная высадка", где поминутно и с фотками постить "Руский, не стреляйть, иа застрял! И "Иа ща как атседова выйдууу!", а на берегу выставит створ по оба фланга с обозначением "Застрявшие тачки крутых морпехов! Сюда не стрелять!". Гибридная война тут, это не детские шутки, Путина с Шойгу надо прессовать по всем каналлам, чтоб им было неповадно.

      Enough for now. Hmm. But somehow.
  32. vobels
    vobels 23 October 2015 14: 10 New
    +5
    The calculation, most likely, was that the enemy would climb out of their shelters from laughter, and the glorious marines would shoot them.
  33. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha 23 October 2015 14: 11 New
    +5
    the wheels then pit the mind is not enough.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 23 October 2015 14: 18 New
      +8
      Do not give them our military secrets ...
  34. X Y Z
    X Y Z 23 October 2015 14: 13 New
    +5
    Yes guys. These are not Rambo clones or Hollywood. You are in the real world and other laws apply here. It’s strange that I don’t see a mobile kitchen or a big shop near the place of events, as well as a shower, a Coca-Cola stall and a cinema. That's what it means to not prepare!
    1. Maksus
      Maksus 23 October 2015 14: 37 New
      +1
      And what's wrong with the fact that soldiers who risk their lives and health create comfortable conditions? And if they like cola and bigmaki, why not bring it. This is bad, I personally do not see anything.
  35. givigor71
    givigor71 23 October 2015 14: 15 New
    +1
    According to a Pentagon spokesman:
    such an operation was planned - dry closets with toilet paper were not brought ...
  36. blind
    blind 23 October 2015 14: 16 New
    +7
    Bugagagaga mattresses are not able to pull out the equipment. they probably called 911 and called firefighters for help. pinned down the action of the landing group squatting and obviously waiting for the artillery response of the probable enemy. maybe diapers change ??
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 23 October 2015 14: 33 New
      +2
      This is not spelled out in their contracts ...
  37. Oznob
    Oznob 23 October 2015 14: 25 New
    +1
    You can write off poor engineering intelligence on the conditions of the exercise. Like an unfamiliar shore, all things. So the technique is useless. Do you think ours would pass?
    1. blind
      blind 23 October 2015 14: 30 New
      +3
      it was necessary to lower the wheels then it would have gone
    2. Denis Skiff
      Denis Skiff 23 October 2015 14: 34 New
      14
      Easy. In the same place, ordinary Ivanov would solve this problem within 2 minutes. one and a half ton of a wheelbarrow pulled out of the sand with a piece of wood. From the snow every year they pull out a variety of techniques in a variety of ways. What I found, then put it under the wheels. How a bullet flies out. The challenge is above all. It would be necessary to pull out, the ships to the figs of a dog would be dismantled.
      And here, well, stuck and figs with them. Think of the teachings. This is easily explained, they are not warriors, not warriors.
      We in the courtyards in childhood played war games, we climbed out of our skin to win.
      Prove now goProve now go
  38. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 23 October 2015 14: 28 New
    +3
    In general, now everything became clear. It turns out that the first case of the Marines during the largest NATO exercises in Europe was to master the skills of pushing out armored vehicles. It must have been indicated in the exercise scenario that “the enemy was so mesmerized by the actions of the marines trying to push the armored vehicles”, that he forgot about the opportunity to put them all in one powerful blow ...
    I looked and forgot))
  39. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 23 October 2015 14: 31 New
    +8
    About a month and a half ago, the mattress general spoke out in the spirit of the fact that NATO assistance to the Baltic states is very limited, due to the lack of an adequate network of roads and their poor condition. Woodland and wetland limits the maneuver of armored vehicles, and the railway track does not meet the European standard, which makes it difficult to transfer troops and their supply.
    In short, the Baltic states were not lucky, because mattresses can fight only in favorable and comfortable conditions))))
  40. mihasik
    mihasik 23 October 2015 14: 31 New
    +1
    This is not Iraqi sand, this is European!) Neighing to colic!)
  41. ivan bogomolov
    ivan bogomolov 23 October 2015 14: 32 New
    +2
    Well-fed, self-righteous, arrogant, heroes of computer games, and there are probably cup holders in the cabin. negative
  42. anderles66
    anderles66 23 October 2015 14: 43 New
    +1
    Long-standing joke:
    - Comrade ensign, and crocodiles fly?
    - Who told you such nonsense?
    - Comrade Major.
    - Yes? Well, of course they fly, only very low.
    Reminded. The main thing is not an event, but its interpretation. Actually, it doesn’t matter if the event itself was.
  43. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 23 October 2015 14: 45 New
    +2
    Well, they’re stuck and then they’ve stopped attacking! On a get-together or something laughing
    1. self-propelled
      self-propelled 23 October 2015 14: 57 New
      +2
      судя по видео, то получается что на посиделки - пяток бойцов то ли атакуют позиции обороняющихся, то ли прикрывают десантируемые силы, а бойцы (мехводы?) на фоне "хаммеров" ходят неспеша в полный рост "чешут репы", думая как бы вытянуть машины!?! да еще и "пробка" получилась на сходнях у десантных катеров...
  44. red_october
    red_october 23 October 2015 14: 51 New
    +1
    but representatives of the American command of the operation decided to attempt to make excuses.

    In my opinion, the US army is simply decomposing: this is not the first such case when no one is interested in the result, first of all, commanders of all levels try to cover their loin with excuses.

    Well, figs with him, not so much news, if you do not know about the unrealistic military budget in 600 yards of greenery (oh ... oh !!! fool ).

    How can I pump such loot into a war machine and not think about the result ???
  45. Zumich
    Zumich 23 October 2015 14: 52 New
    +1
    The Americans are completely stupid and illiterate, you look at how they knock on the wheels with their shoes, complete kompets, we tell about it in jokes (only we have beautiful blondes), and we perceive them as from movies, cool supermenchiki, handsome.
    We, too (don’t even persuade), under the patronage of the United States and their sloths, ruined the entire educational process, introduced the Unified State Examination, complete stupidity, children like nervous idiots, stupidly crammed answers, and where is our traditional logic, thinking, and where is the non-standard answer. We had the strongest school in the world, they ruined it ... now our nouveau riche class, with the same education, but with British dressing, and ugly tugriks, children to be taught to teach .. and these are very proud.
    Return our children to a normal, without tear, education, .... otherwise, soon, when we are old, we will watch our grandchildren run around cars, not Americans.
    We go along their route.
  46. Ilya_GN
    Ilya_GN 23 October 2015 14: 52 New
    +1
    So many soldiers, warriors, and 2 cars can not push.
    This is what they are taught there?
    And they are now waiting for a tow truck?
    1. kumaxa
      kumaxa 24 October 2015 18: 56 New
      0
      Hummer is heavy and good current on hard ground sand is not his element!
  47. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 23 October 2015 14: 56 New
    +1
    It turns out that there was simply no engineering intelligence of the coast. In addition, when organizing the defense, they would not have been even allowed to reach the coast. And those who got there would have stayed there, along with their armored cars.
  48. Turkir
    Turkir 23 October 2015 15: 03 New
    0
    When the cars get stuck in the sand, the marines will now know how to get them out.

    That is, before Portugal, the Marines did not know this, they will now know.
    Probably nothing will be learned only by those who sent these marines.
    And it pleases.
    -------------
    Теперь среди американских морпехов появится новое выражение: "А пошел ты.. в Португалию"
  49. IAlex
    IAlex 23 October 2015 15: 04 New
    +5
    For me, it remains a mystery in general their actions, well, let's say the one who planned to land heavy hamers and with great pressure on the ground with only 4 wheels on solid sandstone, as if without comment ...

    But the actions of the soldiers are generally in touch ... Guessing that until the cars got completely on the belly, digging out the wheels and laying overpasses at least out of the means at hand for the wheels is simply not fate ???

    Someone here from the USA amateurs told me that they have such snow there, it’s noticeable that even a child in the Russian Federation knows that if you drop in compacted snow, you need to work with a shovel and caught brushwood with sticks, and not burn the clutch with a smart look imitating violent activity ..
  50. win
    win 23 October 2015 15: 05 New
    +4
    the servicemen had to forget about the purpose of the landing for a while and get them to release armored vehicles from the sand captivity.

    And during the hostilities do not forget about the goal?
    1. TOZ-34
      TOZ-34 23 October 2015 15: 59 New
      +2
      They won’t have time to recall.