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US Department of State: Assad troops and Kurds will not be able to unite in the fight against the "Islamic state"

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The official representative of the US State Department, Mark Toner, said that the Syrian government forces and the Kurds will not be able to unite in the fight against the terrorists of the Islamic State.




Earlier, the Russian Foreign Ministry stated that in order to resolve the Syrian situation, it is necessary to consolidate the efforts of all ethno-confessional groups of Syrian society, including the Kurds.

“We have always said that, from our point of view, the Syrian regime cannot be trusted and it is not able to take part in any coalition against the IG,” RIA said at a briefing on Thursday. "News".

Commenting on the visit of Syrian leader Bashar Assad to Moscow, which took place on Tuesday evening, the representative of the US State Department noted the need to convey to the Syrian President the importance of steps towards a political settlement in the country.

“We would like to hope that during this meeting Russia and President Putin used their influence to push Assad to stop brutalizing his people, to take steps towards the political process and finally stop (armed) opposition. But I do not know whether this message was conveyed (to Assad) or not, ”said Toner.

After Assad’s visit to the Russian Federation, representatives of the White House said that a reception with a “red carpet” in the Kremlin would not help settle the situation in Syria, while the State Department noted that “they are not surprised by this visit”, if we consider the relations between Moscow and Do not make predictions on the possible consequences of the negotiations.
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  1. EFA
    EFA 23 October 2015 10: 29 New
    28
    They cannot, but they will have to. And by the way, an interesting game is slated between the US and Russia in the "Kurdish issue."
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 23 October 2015 10: 33 New
      16
      Asad should promise the Kurds autonomy in some form, and I think they will find common ground in the common struggle against American terrorists.
      1. Penetrator
        Penetrator 23 October 2015 10: 40 New
        33
        Quote: Sauron80
        Asad should promise the Kurds autonomy in some kind of thread

        The Kurds, by the way, agree to broad autonomy within Syria, and Assad, in this situation, there is nothing left but to guarantee it. And there, you look, and Iraq will catch up and also provide them with limited sovereignty. A terrible dream for Turkey will come true. And the lies to the US State Department, only promising statehood to the Kurds, will be unpleasant (to say the least).
        By the way, when Putin says about the Russians that this is the largest divided people in the world, I always remember the Kurds - there are 40 million of them divided without a state.
        1. Eugene-Eugene
          Eugene-Eugene 23 October 2015 11: 02 New
          12
          A nightmare for Turkey will come true

          Cruel reality is not far off.
          Turkey seems to be blown away. Erdogan failed in his Ottoman expansion, did not manage to form a presidential republic, parliament has already lost, it remains to lose the presidential chair. Now Europe is getting rid of 404, pulling it apart piece by piece, it will be the turn of the Euromaidan Turks: Europeans must rob somewhere to feed their pampered people. Not for nothing in recent days has emerged the topic of European integration. We are waiting for a new batch of cookies, a parade of sovereignty in the Kurdish provinces and Turkish acquaintances of thugs on their territory. True, we will have to forget about the Turkish stream, sending gas through the Baltic (again, to the joy of the Germans) ... And the leader of the great Ottomans was so close to the goal, poor in bed.
        2. EFA
          EFA 23 October 2015 11: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: Penetrator
          Yes, and the nonsense of the US State Department, only promising statehood to the Kurds

          Namely, really something, but they promise to pour and pour the tubs of sweet molasses into the ears.

          Here the main thing for the Kurds is to do only one simple thing - just compare:
          1. Results of cooperation with the USA.
          2. The results of cooperation with the Russian Federation.

          Well, to make completely non-complex conclusions, which will prompt the correct answer.
          And yet, they would not be too smart about their current situation and their importance, and try to stay within the framework of mutually beneficial relations with their neighbors.
        3. Homo
          Homo 23 October 2015 13: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: Penetrator
          The Kurds, by the way, agree to broad autonomy within Syria, and Assad, in this situation, there is nothing left but to guarantee it.

          So he had already promised autonomy to the Kurds after ISIS was “piled on”.
      2. Snake AAA
        Snake AAA 23 October 2015 10: 45 New
        +3
        Damn, Americans are experts in the Middle East and the world that their opinion NEEDS TO LISTEN AT LEAST !!!! Otherwise, world war cannot be avoided !!!
        1. Eugene-Eugene
          Eugene-Eugene 23 October 2015 11: 17 New
          +3
          Let Obamka think better of his ass
      3. Temples
        Temples 23 October 2015 10: 45 New
        +5
        Mark Toner said that the government troops of Syria and the Kurds will not be able to unite in the fight against terrorists of the Islamic State.


        Exceptional Broadcasts -
        -All fell prostrate and listen to the will of the Gods!
        -Love - Kurds, do not dare to unite with Assad's troops!
        -Who dare that Zeus Obama will throw lightning (in the form of drooling and snot) !!!

        Amercians really live in a different dimension!
      4. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 23 October 2015 11: 38 New
        -3
        Quote: Sauron80
        Asad should promise the Kurds autonomy in some form, and I think they will find common ground in the common struggle against American terrorists.

        Kurds are almost independent in the north of Syria, why do they need autonomy? Moreover, Assad has no human or material resources to deal with them.
        1. Sauron80
          Sauron80 23 October 2015 11: 40 New
          +7
          In fact, they are independent, and if it is still legally consolidated, then both Iraqi Kurds and Turkish Kurds will start to shake. And Assad is not going to fight the Kurds, he said that "without the Kurds, Syria is not Syria" (something like that).
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 23 October 2015 12: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Kurds are almost independent in the north of Syria, why do they need autonomy? Moreover, Assad has no human or material resources to deal with them.

          Well, actually, the Kurds have a national idea of ​​creating an independent Kurdistan, which will include the territories of Turkey, Syria and Iraq, for which they are fighting. It is clear that they are still very far from implementing this idea, if at all possible, but even the Autonomy of any part of the alleged Kurdistan is no small victory. If there is an opportunity to fix this status officially, then why not do it within the framework of the alliance with Assad against ISIS? After all, they also don’t really want to lose their people and resources where there is a high probability of achieving a result by agreement.
          The Turks most of all interfere with the Turks, and they understand that the mattresses are far from the same, and they are also "allies."
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 23 October 2015 12: 59 New
            -7
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            If there is an opportunity to fix this status officially, then why not do it within the framework of the alliance with Assad against ISIS?

            Because Assad there does not like the very drop less than ISIS. What has been repeatedly stated
      5. EGOrkka
        EGOrkka 23 October 2015 12: 09 New
        +3
        .... IT IS ASSAD TO SAY .... WHAT HE IS FOR JOINING THE KURDS OF SYRIA AND TURKEY ...... smile
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 23 October 2015 10: 34 New
      13
      And from what lyad star-striped monkeys are responsible for the Kurds.
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 23 October 2015 10: 46 New
        +4
        Quote: vovanpain
        And from what lyad star-striped monkeys are responsible for the Kurds.


        And they do not "answer" for them, Dear namesake, they work with them. And what is sad, they work competently.
        I think that during the Assad’s visit to Moscow, the Kurdish question took up quite a bit of space.

        Something like this. hi
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 23 October 2015 11: 02 New
          18
          Then we need to work with them and bring them to our side and work together with Assad and to the photo, I’ll add on my own: -At this time, an old, gray-haired Turkish woman wept bitterly. hi
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 23 October 2015 11: 13 New
            +3
            Quote: vovanpain
            Then we need to work with them and bring them to our side and work together with Assad and to the photo, I’ll add on my own: -At this time, an old, gray-haired Turkish woman wept bitterly.


            Duc, and about the same, Dear. hi
    3. marlin1203
      marlin1203 23 October 2015 11: 16 New
      +3
      What game? It looks like the Kurdish Americans bought with giblets. They will now hold for "living" and Turkey and Syria at the same time. Very comfortably. But only the Turks will never accept this, and the Kurds will not abandon the idea of ​​an independent Kurdistan. So that one will still be kneading after they’ll sort it out from the isles.
    4. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 23 October 2015 11: 39 New
      +3
      Assad and Kurdish troops will not be able to unite in the fight against the "Islamic State".... the bath fell from Herali? ......
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    6. knn54
      knn54 23 October 2015 11: 41 New
      +1
      US State Department: we are against the unification of Assad and Kurds ...
  2. Decathlon
    Decathlon 23 October 2015 10: 30 New
    +8
    When the "partners" begin to analyze, predict, put forward hypotheses and express concern, I understand that they "something went wrong"!
  3. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 23 October 2015 10: 30 New
    +4
    US Department of State: Assad troops and Kurds will not be able to unite in the fight against the "Islamic state"

    The most disconnecting and destabilizing element of the planet of the US State Department blurted out another garbage. wink
  4. DIVAN SOLDIER
    DIVAN SOLDIER 23 October 2015 10: 30 New
    +7
    You can’t trust the Syrian regime, but can you striped goats ???
    1. Sober
      Sober 23 October 2015 11: 09 New
      0
      striped? This is strong!
  5. avt
    avt 23 October 2015 10: 35 New
    +3
    They criticize the US on the Kurdish issue, and they want to arm the Kurds, and it’s prickling. It will be necessary to arm the PKK in fact, whose members themselves have been recognized as terrorists, and this will come across in any Turkey. Here's the ears of the Kurds and ride.
  6. aszzz888
    aszzz888 23 October 2015 10: 35 New
    0
    Again choked mericatos. Soon they will choke on their own poison. laughing
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 October 2015 10: 35 New
    +1
    It is clear what kind of “pain point” was found in Syria by the striatum. They will drive a wedge there. But they did not think that playing the “Kurdish card” with world-famous art and the grace of an elephant in a china shop is fraught with even more dramatic consequences. For example, the fact that you can "accidentally" ignite a civil war in Turkey?
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 23 October 2015 10: 49 New
      +3
      So maybe for the sake of this and help the Kurds? Or they promise to help in order to keep Turkey on a short leash?
    2. Sober
      Sober 23 October 2015 11: 18 New
      +1
      Dear Mountain Shooter, this is how they achieve this. They need destabilization everywhere!
  8. Nikolay K
    Nikolay K 23 October 2015 10: 35 New
    +2
    Do not want to trust Assad, send your ground forces to fight ISIS. Militants are waiting for you with TOW at the ready. Wellcome!
  9. Vita vko
    Vita vko 23 October 2015 10: 38 New
    +3
    US Mark Toner said that the government troops of Syria and the Kurds will not be able to unite in the fight against terrorists of the "Islamic State"

    In other words, the United States will do everything possible to prevent this from happening. The obvious desire to share and rule over everything. But this position only helps the terrorists very much, who earn money from these contradictions and conquer new regions. I am sure the effect of the US desires will be the opposite, and the Kurds will respond first and foremost to Assad and Putin's alliance against terrorists in Syria.
  10. Shooting
    Shooting 23 October 2015 10: 38 New
    +2
    That is, in fact now only the “Syrian regime” is fighting ISIS, but ours have connected. But this business cannot be trusted with him.

    This "mission" is only "exceptional."
  11. IAlex
    IAlex 23 October 2015 10: 38 New
    +3
    Circus, they deliver weapons and help Turkey bomb them, while on their behalf I declare that the Kurds themselves will do;))) Something tells me that for them there may be many surprises ...
  12. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 23 October 2015 10: 39 New
    +4
    I watched Assad’s interior view to the journalists of the Russian channel. He clearly expressed that the Kurds are the same full members of the state of Syria, like other nationalities, and without them, Syria is not Syria.
    In light of this statement, I would like to say that Mark Toner does not watch the latest news and thinks narrowly ... only within the salary of the State Department ...
  13. venaya
    venaya 23 October 2015 10: 39 New
    +2
    the State Department, for its part, noted that "not surprised by such a visit," given the relationship between Moscow and Damascus

    And who was surprised? Where else should Assad ride, and with benefit yet. Going to other places to no purpose, and secondly, it’s also not just useless, but really impossible, given the real interests of very influential structures.
  14. jaguarstas
    jaguarstas 23 October 2015 10: 41 New
    +2
    Kurds apparently still believe Uncle Sam. But in vain.
    Turkey forgives Uncle Sam flirting with the Kurds and supplying them with weapons, but Russia cannot forgive a couple of coincidences. Something tells me that Antalya will not receive its tourists.
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 23 October 2015 10: 53 New
      +2
      This is Uncle Sam believes that the Kurds believe Uncle Sam)) Although maybe there is a jamie who also speaks on behalf of all Crimean Tatars.
      And Turkey has options, how can they snap back against Uncle Sam? Well, let the ships not return to the Black Sea in response)) Erdogan has already been hinted at revolution recently - now he is sitting on the priest evenly and barking at the command of Uncle Sam.
  15. dog1965
    dog1965 23 October 2015 10: 45 New
    +2
    With the Kurds, it will be really hard for our diplomats. They have no desire to go beyond the territory of residence. And besides, now they have in fact gained independence. And in order to go back “under the arm of Damascus” they will have to offer something significant. In general, the task is difficult, and the US is also trying to flirt with them. Only the Turks, with their dislike of the Kurds, can facilitate the task. Since the "Turkish stream" is already visible in a deep "z ... ze", it is easier, but not by much.
    We will observe what steps our foreign ministry will take. Analysts there in the Middle East have always been good.
  16. Kuzhugetovich
    Kuzhugetovich 23 October 2015 10: 46 New
    +3
    Quote: Penetrator
    A nightmare for Turkey will come true

    Oh, how I want to see it)
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 23 October 2015 10: 55 New
      +1
      Naturally. Kurds in Syria will receive specific autonomy. The problem is that locals will also ask Iraq and Turkey. There is another problem in Armenia, they also exist. Like it or not, but Turkey will be the most affected country. I wonder Armenia will agree with the autonomy at home? request
      1. sherp2015
        sherp2015 23 October 2015 11: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Kil 31
        I wonder Armenia will agree with the autonomy at home?



        They have already fled 99% to Russia))
  17. russmensch
    russmensch 23 October 2015 11: 04 New
    +1
    "... take steps towards the political process and permanently end the (armed) confrontation."

    What is it that they call quietly to surrender to the favor of the IG? And then how about Hussein? They (Americans) have ceased to be friends with the head?
  18. VadimSt
    VadimSt 23 October 2015 11: 21 New
    +3
    Yesterday, during the GDP responses in the discussion club, after his words about the stupidity of dropping loads anywhere and the inadmissibility of providing MANPADS, the opposition wanted to hear in the sequel, like - "Well, then what? Can we answer, drop a couple of bales from MANPADS to where American pilots fly alone? " It is clear that the GDP, even having the will and desire to do so, will not say openly, but we will think that the answer, as always, is asymmetric.
  19. roskot
    roskot 23 October 2015 11: 27 New
    +1
    Again, striped bluffs. According to their concepts, Syria cannot be friends with the Kurds, and even better with Russia. Actually, a splinter in their head is sticking out.
  20. morozik
    morozik 23 October 2015 11: 43 New
    +2
    the policy of mattress workers - divide and conquer ... they normally separate all - the Kurds to separate from the help of Russia, Iraq to help it if Russia helps him ...
    It is more difficult for Russia - it is necessary to unite everyone, despite the accumulated contradictions. This is not so easy to do, but with the activity of the United States, who insert sticks into the wheels, the task becomes more complicated
  21. win
    win 23 October 2015 12: 12 New
    +2
    Syrian government and Kurds will not be able to unite in the fight against terrorists of the Islamic State.


    Americans are gradually preparing an opinion on the division of Syria.
    And then they will "unite" Kurds from all adjacent countries and rule there themselves.
  22. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 23 October 2015 12: 22 New
    0
    In short, divide and conquer. That is all Anglo-Saxon politics.
  23. Russia
    Russia 23 October 2015 12: 29 New
    +3
    US Department of State: Assad troops and Kurds will not be able to unite in the fight against the "Islamic state"

    Translated from the State Department into Russian - "We will do everything so that they do not unite!" am
  24. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 23 October 2015 12: 29 New
    +2
    Kirdyk knocked on Turkey's door. The interests of too many interested parties have been cut short here.
  25. Watchdog
    Watchdog 23 October 2015 12: 38 New
    +1
    To encourage Assad to stop abusing his people -
    lying creatures am am am am angry angry
  26. sagitch
    sagitch 23 October 2015 13: 07 New
    0
    Turks are afraid of the idea of ​​"one Kurdistan." If you give autonomy in Syria, and in Iraq there is already autonomy. The Kurds will have to achieve autonomy in Turkey, and there will go a tough struggle of the Kurds for the merger of 3's autonomies. And then the United Kurdistan will appear to the world, and it will be so, years through 10-15.
    1. Sauron80
      Sauron80 23 October 2015 13: 12 New
      +1
      Iran has been forgotten, they are probably not eager to grant autonomy there.
  27. 1536
    1536 23 October 2015 13: 22 New
    +2
    It is amazing how Americans speak for everyone and for the Syrian opposition and for Assad’s troops. There are some kind of prompters. But they will unite, what will the Yankees do then. Fly off to Patomak, or they will explode an atomic bomb over Damascus with shouts: "So do not get to anyone!"?
  28. kos2910
    kos2910 23 October 2015 13: 38 New
    +1
    A lot is tied to the union of the Kurds with the Syrian army. True, until they are connected, there is still time for diplomacy. God grant the Kurds a reasonable solution, and Turkey by the forest, have already got
  29. Stariknv
    Stariknv 23 October 2015 14: 06 New
    +1
    Why the United States decides and not the people of Syria.
  30. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 23 October 2015 14: 09 New
    0
    The official representative of the US State Department, Mark Toner, said that the Syrian government forces and the Kurds will not be able to unite in the fight against the terrorists of the Islamic State.

    This must be understood "Yes, who will give them."
  31. ASG7
    ASG7 23 October 2015 15: 07 New
    +2
    The whole world already speaks Russian, and they still publish manuals in English. laughing
  32. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 23 October 2015 19: 00 New
    +1
    The official representative of the US State Department, Mark Toner, said that the Syrian government forces and the Kurds will not be able to unite in the fight against the terrorists of the Islamic State.

    For a long time, Fashington played in public, waging, allegedly, an implacable war with ISIS, which he created and hiding behind this “strange” war, which allowed ISIS to only expand its conquests in Syria, and was looking forward to Assad using ISIS to be overthrown and the Syrian state is destroyed! With Russian intervention and the creation of an antiterrorist coalition involving Kurds, Fashington’s hopes are crumbling! Therefore, this statement must be understood in such a way that he will do everything possible, and he knows how to allow the Kurds to unite with the Syrian government forces in the fight against ISIS!
  33. cergey51046
    cergey51046 23 October 2015 19: 11 New
    +1
    So much the worse for the Kurds.