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Putin called a big mistake the transfer of US anti-tank complexes to Syrian militants

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Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the United States began to transfer anti-tank fighting complexes of the Syrian opposition, but this is a big mistake.




“As far as we know, the US military is already transmitting anti-tank systems tanks and armored vehicles, armored vehicles, and teach calculations. I think this is a big mistake. I believe that this weapon will surely fall into the hands of terrorist organizations ", - quotes the Russian president of RIA "News".

"Is it possible to transfer complexes of the fight against aviationMANPADS? I hope not, because the American leadership, although we disagree on many positions, are sensible people and (they) are aware that these weapons can be very quickly in the hands of those who send them against American pilots "He said.

October 16, Deputy Foreign Minister for Counter Terrorism Oleg Syromolotov, said that a possible supply of man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) to Syrian terrorists would be viewed as a direct complicity with all the ensuing consequences.
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    1. hydrox
      hydrox 23 October 2015 08: 41 New
      -4
      ARENA is a very expensive complex, it needs to be installed, adjusted, tested and tuned, and this takes months that we don’t have. But Tou is an ancient complex that does not have a GOS, but is controlled by wires and how the Arena will behave there - xs ...
      1. Vladimyrych
        Vladimyrych 23 October 2015 08: 48 New
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        Ой да бросьте Вы. Дорого, долго. Если очень захотеть... Эта тема с "Ареной" с начала девяностых всем покоя не даёт. Особенно на этом сайте некоторым представителям Израиля. smile
        It's time already points over i to put.
        And further contracts will pay off with a head.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 23 October 2015 08: 56 New
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          "As far as we know, the US military is already transmitting anti-tank combat systems with tanks and armored vehicles, armored vehicles, and train calculations. I think it is big mistake.

          Ну,значит это мнение другим доступным способом доведут до сведения "западных партнёров"!
          В Сирии убит так называемый 'Король ПТУР TOW' wink
          В результате действий российской авиации в Сирии был убит так называемый 'Король американских противотанковых ракет TOW' Базель Зиммо (Абу Хамза) (Basel Zimmo (Abu Hamza).

          Abu Hamza, a retired captain, commander of the coastal division headquarters, trained US forces in Turkey to operate US-produced anti-tank guided missiles for operations against government forces in Syria.

          The operation against the command post of militants was carried out in the Jabal al-Akbar region of Lattakia province. As a result of the operation, at least 40 military were killed and many others were injured. http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940728001103
        2. figwam
          figwam 23 October 2015 09: 17 New
          +3
          As far as we know, the US military is already transmitting anti-tank systems with tanks and armored vehicles, armored vehicles, and are trained in calculations.

          Oleg Syromolotov said that the possible supply of portable anti-aircraft missile systems (MANPADS) to Syrian terrorists will be considered as direct aiding with all the ensuing consequences.

          The war continues to gain momentum, one step remains, after which the scale of the opposition between the FSA and Russia will reach a new level.
      2. Pavel Vereshchagin
        Pavel Vereshchagin 23 October 2015 08: 54 New
        +7
        " Полагаю, что это оружие наверняка попадет в руки террористических организаций», - приводит слова российского президента РИА «Новости»"...... Для этого и поставляют что бы бармалеям досталось. "Партнеры" мать их
        1. Pavel Vereshchagin
          Pavel Vereshchagin 23 October 2015 09: 02 New
          +8
          This is how the opposition’s weapons must be supplied.
      3. paxil
        paxil 23 October 2015 08: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: hydrox
        ARENA is a very expensive complex, it needs to be installed, adjusted, tested and tuned, and this takes months that we don’t have. But Tou is an ancient complex that does not have a GOS, but is controlled by wires and how the Arena will behave there - xs ...

        Yes, it doesn’t matter to them how much they pay, then their gas stations are Saudis and Qatar, so they won’t cost the price. laughing
      4. Engineer
        Engineer 23 October 2015 08: 56 New
        +5
        It will behave perfectly, it is just against Toe, Milan and Hot, in whom Ik the coordinator of the position of the rocket uses the definition of the position of the rocket tracer IR range. And the Shtor complex includes IR spotlights, one of the operating modes of which is just the illumination of these tracers. The complex does not know where the rocket is and cannot adjust its flight.
        1. atalef
          atalef 23 October 2015 08: 58 New
          -16
          Quote: Engineer
          It will behave perfectly, it is just against Toe, Milan and Hot, in whom Ik the coordinator of the position of the rocket uses the definition of the position of the rocket tracer IR range. And the Shtor complex includes IR spotlights, one of the operating modes of which is just the illumination of these tracers. The complex does not know where the rocket is and cannot adjust its flight.

          Put-Javelins.
          Shot - forgot. hi
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 23 October 2015 09: 09 New
            +5
            Quote: atalef
            Put-Javelins.

            They will not deliver the Javelins, it is too expensive, and they themselves will fit, they will deliver only what the Engineer said in order to empty the warehouses.
          2. Sid.74
            Sid.74 23 October 2015 09: 10 New
            +7
            Quote: atalef
            Put-Javelins.

            Ага,на Украину уже "поставили"... wassat Greetings, Alexander.hi On the censor probably mourning.lol
            US President Barack Obama vetoed on the draft defense budget for 2016 year. The bill provided for the allocation of almost $ 300 million to provide assistance to Ukraine in the intelligence and military spheres. This assistance was to include the supply of weapons, ammunition and military equipment.
            https://russian.rt.com/article/125405

            Yes, and amerikosy do not need to do anything, the Saudis almost 14 thousand TOW in the bins.
          3. Genry
            Genry 23 October 2015 10: 35 New
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            Put-Javelins.
            Shot - forgot

            Jiavelin is good only in conditions of constant visibility of the target.
            If the target disappears, it loses its grip during aiming, and the cooling time of the IR head takes place, after which the expensive piece of iron is useless (as with MANPADS).
          4. zennon
            zennon 23 October 2015 11: 35 New
            +3
            Quote: atalef
            Put-Javelins.
            Shot - forgot.

            The spear is expensive. One racket costs $ 50.
        2. hydrox
          hydrox 23 October 2015 09: 07 New
          0
          Quote: Engineer
          It will behave perfectly

          And how do you see the installation that the Curtains, that the Arena on the T-64 tanks, which are the majority in the Syrian army?
          And again :: we have NO time for re-equipment and modernization.
          1. mvg
            mvg 23 October 2015 10: 30 New
            +3
            t-64 in Syria? Do not confuse anything?
            1. zennon
              zennon 23 October 2015 11: 36 New
              +1
              Quote: mvg
              t-64 in Syria? Do not confuse anything?

              Maybe T-62? They have about a thousand T-62K, and T-62M.
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        3. Professor
          Professor 23 October 2015 17: 11 New
          -5
          Quote: Engineer
          It will behave perfectly, it’s just against Tou, Milan and Hot,

          Yes Yes. And how would this luminous system under its nose help this tank from the ancient TOU? wink

          Quote: hydrox
          Javelins will not deliver, too expensive

          Expensive? So the Americans will print more money for themselves.

          Quote: Engineer
          Look, so that we don’t put someone at Hezbollah, otherwise it will be 2006 for you in the square

          You set the Cornets back in 2006. Have you got something newer? wink
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 23 October 2015 20: 24 New
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            Upgraded version of Cornet D.
      5. sssla
        sssla 23 October 2015 09: 28 New
        +3
        Quote: hydrox
        ARENA is a very expensive complex

        Not more expensive than life
        1. Genry
          Genry 23 October 2015 10: 42 New
          +1
          "Арена" там не нужна и её, фактически, нет!
          Там "Шторы" достаточно. Ну может, модифицировать засветку, добавив ультра-фиолет (может уже?).
  2. Roman1970
    Roman1970 23 October 2015 08: 35 New
    +3
    Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the United States began to transfer anti-tank fighting complexes of the Syrian opposition, but this is a big mistake.
    For me this is at least strange ... Well, the soldiers were trained. Now most of them are fighting for IS. And now the weapon ... Well, and where will it go, according to the US?
    1. Penetrator
      Penetrator 23 October 2015 08: 45 New
      +9
      Помните, высказывание Талейрана "Это хуже, чем преступление — это ошибка"? Наш Президент, на языке дипломатии, прямо обвинил Штаты в преступлении..
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 23 October 2015 08: 47 New
      +1
      [quote = Roman1970] [quote] Well, and where does it, according to the United States, get to? [/ quote]
      Where the United States will give, there will fall, in ISIS.
      What Syria lacks is a large number of nimble self-propelled small-caliber artillery systems (57 - 76 mm) with a multi-fragmentation shell (striking elements)
  3. VseDoFeNi
    VseDoFeNi 23 October 2015 08: 37 New
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    Yes, everything is clear to a normal person. Who is on which side. The USA cannot, this country of victorious Satanism, side with the good. Who is the war, and their mother is dear to them.
  4. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 23 October 2015 08: 38 New
    -2
    Soak enemies in the toilets!
  5. Igor39
    Igor39 23 October 2015 08: 39 New
    +3
    October 16, Deputy Foreign Minister for Counter Terrorism Oleg Syromolotov, said that a possible supply of man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) to Syrian terrorists would be viewed as a direct complicity with all the ensuing consequences.

    MANPADS, ATGM what's the difference, waiting for the consequences. winked
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 23 October 2015 08: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: Igor39
      MANPADS, ATGM what's the difference, waiting for the consequences

      Really do not understand the difference between the loss of armored vehicles and aircraft?
      In fact, you should better understand such things on this site. fellow
    2. atalef
      atalef 23 October 2015 08: 56 New
      -5
      Quote: Igor39
      October 16, Deputy Foreign Minister for Counter Terrorism Oleg Syromolotov, said that a possible supply of man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS) to Syrian terrorists would be viewed as a direct complicity with all the ensuing consequences.

      MANPADS, ATGM what's the difference, waiting for the consequences

      In general, I certainly respect Putin. some representatives of the General Staff - as they say - Associate professor is an authoritative thief, but
      And what was he counting on, that one, that the other 7
      The US supports the opposition (or bandits) - to whom which version is more suitable
      Russia - Assad (a legitimate government) or a dictator and illegitimate power - the same as you like
      And if Russia started helping Assad with its Air Force and bombing and fighting primarily with the SSA (and not with ISIS) - someone thinks that the USA and Turkey with the Saudis - will nervously smoke aside, fearing Putin’s accusations of supporting terrorists (yes for them, Assad is a terrorist) and all these stuffing are designed for domestic consumption and no more.
      Therefore, the United States will put the ATGM in order to negate the entire infantry component, and if it is necessary (and this will happen the same) then the MANPADS.
      What did you think?
      Everyone has their own interests, and everyone will defend them, but the question is not which of these parties is Kibalchish, but who is Bad - the question is who has the best chance of success.
      1. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 23 October 2015 10: 09 New
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        Alexander. hi My regards.
        I agree with you that America and Russia (USSR) have a good old tradition of supplying the Bad Men and the Kibalchish with all kinds of weapons that are unpleasant for each other. I acknowledge your right to consider Assad a dictator and accomplice of terrorism (I admit that Israel has some reason for this), but tell me, who cuts people's heads on camera, burns them alive and drowns them in cells? Is Assad? Millions of refugees. Really from Assad? Based on those terrible shots broadcast to the whole world, I decided for myself who is who. Therefore, with your phrase:

        "У всех свои интересы , и каждый будет их защищать , вопрос да же не в том , кто из этих сторон Кибальчишь , а кто Плохишь , -- вопрос в том , у кого больше шансов на успех".

        I disagree categorically. The bad man must be drowned in a barrel of ... jam.
        1. Longmire
          Longmire 23 October 2015 13: 59 New
          0
          Quote: Polite Elk
          but tell me, who cuts people's heads on a camera, burns them alive and drowns them in cages? Is Assad? Millions of refugees. Really from Assad? Based on those terrible shots broadcast to the whole world, I decided for myself who is who. Therefore, with your phrase

          ну вы Асада тоже переоцениваете, он в лагерях опозицию сгноил "мирно и тихо", так 150000 тысяч, и тихо... поставки оружия хизбале и хамасу как бы также не делают его голубем мира... так что чему удивлятся, что страны ближнего востока не спешат к ставленнику ирана записываться в союзники?
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 23 October 2015 14: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: Longmire
            ну вы Асада тоже переоцениваете, он в лагерях опозицию сгноил "мирно и тихо", так 150000 тысяч, и тихо...


            Уважаемый Longmire. Если Вы имеете в виду ту оппозицию, которая сейчас под знаменем ислама ведет боевые действия против правительственных войск Сирии, то мне почему-то жаль, что он не сгноил её всю полностью "мирно и тихо". А если взять "демократические" места лишения свободы, принадлежащие "отцам демократии", то полагаю, там было загублено людей на порядок больше и причем "очень тихо".

            Quote: Longmire
            supplies of weapons to hezbollah and Hamas, as it were, also do not make him a dove of peace ...


            These organizations did not supply weapons only lazy. But for some reason, answer Assad. Iran is a much more religiously radical country than secular and largely Christian Syria. Therefore, Syria is closer to me. And yet, I believe that Israel, for example, has a much better chance of resolving peacefully all differences with Assad than with Khomeini. By the way, Iran produces and supplies many times more weapons than Syria (I generally keep quiet about China). But for some reason Assad turned out to be the most bald. I explain this by saying that the strangulation of the pentosa region began with the weaker ones (Iraq, Libya, Syria).
            Assad’s regime also impressed me with the fact that it did not support Chechen fighters in the 1st and 2nd campaigns, which cannot be said about other countries of the Middle East. Something like that.
      2. Zheka40
        Zheka40 23 October 2015 10: 12 New
        +4
        It can be seen where you are from, and your reasoning. am
      3. Sid.74
        Sid.74 23 October 2015 10: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Someone thinks that the United States and Turkey with Saud will nervously smoke aside

        А я думаю,что именно это они делать и будут.Алькайда в Турции нафиг никому не нужна.Итак "братьев мусульман" выше крыши.Опять же курды такое не поддерживают.Да и потерял серьёзно Эрдоган в политической поддержке турков,перевыборы на носу,а рейтинг не позволяет на себя все функции замкнуть,новый премьер от оппозиции практически все военные хотелки Эрдогана обломает.Вчера уже было заявление Эрдогана,что Асад может временно остаться на посту президента.Финита ля комедия,так сказать,Эрдоган человек слова,захотел дал слово,захотел взял обратно.А четыре года ж требовал ухода Асада.wink
        The SA almost every day in Moscow gets rid of it, because they don’t need the IG inside the country. For the IG, the Doha project. Ours will give more heat with Assad, arrange new elections with Assad, after which all Democrats BV, EU and US will quickly stick their tongues in the ass, when Assad wins.
        Doha, these yes, can foul, but they may have problems in this regard.
        Quote: atalef
        Therefore, the United States will put the ATGM in order to negate the entire infantry component, and if it is necessary (and this will happen the same) then the MANPADS.

        All the military components of the US military budget were cut, the purchase of the F-35 was reduced, and you are talking about the supply of MANPADS, and the whole situation will begin to shmila with these MANPADS for NATO, why not the option, and if the Kurds have landed on the Turks?
        In early November, the Americans are facing a new sequestration of the budget, the national debt ceiling has risen again, not up to Syria now.

  6. Gur
    Gur 23 October 2015 08: 41 New
    +2
    They don’t think the Taliban will get a bunch
  7. alex-cn
    alex-cn 23 October 2015 08: 45 New
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    Well, nothing, the Amers in Afghanistan were shot the same as the Afghans were delivered against us. Here they get the same. So I think they will beware of MANPADS. And I don’t even doubt that the Taliban will fall.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 23 October 2015 09: 49 New
      -1
      What's the point? Mansur after the victory is going to conquer Tajikistan. Take Mullah Omar to crush the whole of Central Asia.

      Which of them will we deliver weapons to? recourse
  8. asar
    asar 23 October 2015 08: 46 New
    +3
    The next move for Russia ?!
    Ну, а в "остальном", чтобы эти "штуковины" не попали на "передок", это совсем другая история!
    We will all work!
  9. Neophyte
    Neophyte 23 October 2015 08: 47 New
    +1
    For every action, there is always opposition? We hope that Russia's response will be similar!
  10. fa2998
    fa2998 23 October 2015 08: 47 New
    0
    Похожи те времена,когда США воспринимались некоторыми "союзниками и партнерами"уже ушли.Нынешние действия Вашингтона больше похожи на тайную войну против России.В Сирии Россия пытается помочь законному правительству.А подготовка"умеренной оппозиции"(которая строем впоследствии идет в ИГИЛ),поставка различного оружия(которое впоследствии теряется,и всплывает в ИГИЛ)-это война против России и ее союзников.Не удивлюсь если у террористов появятся ПЗРК.Ясно откуда!Богатый опыт поддержки "моджахедов" у США есть. negative hi
  11. Tummyr
    Tummyr 23 October 2015 08: 48 New
    +1
    Надо сделать ответную "ошибку" в Афганистане, через третьих лиц.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 23 October 2015 09: 51 New
      +1
      So to whom to make a mistake? Mansur after the victory already promises to conquer Tajikistan. Mansour is the one who is now a nightmare of the Americans and the Afghan army in the north and is the leader of the Taliban.

      Mullah’s brother lobster and breakaway radicals are now entering Khorasan (Caliphate) - they set the goal to conquer all of Central Asia!

      To which of them does the Cornets and Needles supply?
  12. EDDI 76
    EDDI 76 23 October 2015 08: 48 New
    0
    I hope that they will deal with the opposition in the near future
  13. ivan bogomolov
    ivan bogomolov 23 October 2015 08: 58 New
    +5
    The United States, born of terror and genocide, will die of it sooner or later. angry
  14. Gor-1974
    Gor-1974 23 October 2015 09: 12 New
    +2
    Our opponent wants us to get bogged down in the war (According to their logic, there are some pluses, sanctions are imposed on Russia, low oil prices, slow import substitution, sluggish fight against corruption, plus alignment in Ukraine, now Syria is weakening it all, and for them the arms trade is the first business) Tanks God bless them, they will bring new ones, and tankers cannot be put into operation so quickly. It smells like a protracted war. For me, it is necessary to stop the point strikes, and just start air strikes on the territory of the enemy, and then figure out who is in the general heap, the Americans or some other popos.
    1. AID.S
      AID.S 23 October 2015 10: 28 New
      0
      Give carpet bombing? And what to bomb the desert or the city?
  15. individual
    individual 23 October 2015 09: 20 New
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    The stick has two ends.
    It will easily shoot at its conductor.
  16. Engineer
    Engineer 23 October 2015 10: 00 New
    +2
    Quote: atalef

    Put-Javelins.
    Shot - forgot. hi


    Look, so that we don’t put someone at Hezbollah, otherwise it will be 2006 for you in the square hi
    1. Zheka40
      Zheka40 23 October 2015 10: 17 New
      0
      Поддерживаю, самоуверенные слишком "богоизбранные", "знатоки" дешёвые.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 23 October 2015 11: 35 New
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      Quote: Engineer
      Quote: atalef

      Put-Javelins.
      Shot - forgot. hi


      Look, so that we don’t put someone at Hezbollah, otherwise it will be 2006 for you in the square hi

      It may well be, but Hezbollah and Lebanon will then also be squared. Do you think they will agree to such an exchange.
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  17. Earnest
    Earnest 23 October 2015 12: 14 New
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    В Афган уже ПЗРК поставляли, правда, там американской авиации не было. А в Ираке и Сирии вроде как летают, боеприпасы ИГИЛ поставляют, когда не бомбят экскаваторы. А вот интересно, если поставят оппозиции "Стингеры", сирийские экскаваторщики их быстро освоят? Исключительно в целях самообороны, конечно. Думаю, вот это старое фото подскажет soldier
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 October 2015 12: 51 New
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    ПТУРС в умелых руках - страшное оружие. В режиме полуавтомата - существенно тупее, но подготовка оператора существенно проще. Комплекс "Штора" работает и по оптическому, и по ИК каналу.