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Russians are too strong ("Il Giornale", Italy)

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America is in shock

The United States is shocked by the fact that they saw the unforeseen military power of the Russians in Syria. It is not only about the latest and very accurate weapons, but also about the style, the speed of the military operation and even the Kremlin’s media accompaniment, openly challenging the Americans both in defining the bombing targets and the targets that need to be preserved from defeat.

Washington was suspended from the operation, and it seems he received an answer: now we are working on it and let you know the result. Like it or not, this exchange of cues produced the necessary effect. A detail to clarify the situation: the Russians brought barracks for thousands of soldiers to Syria and organized evening performances with the participation of dancers, comedians and variety shows, showed theatrical performances.

The 15 of the New York Times printed a very well-documented text about the traumatic effect that Putin’s war in Syria produces in America. Everybody was injured, and this can only be compared with one event: the launch of the first artificial satellite of the Earth 4 on October 1957. Then America discovered that she was mistaken in everything: in school education, in military training, university courses, capital investments ... She exposed herself to this auto-da-fé, which subsequently gave results and allowed the first man to land on the moon.

Now we are not talking about the flight to the moon, but about making decisions, both diplomatic and reconnaissance, which would be at the level of a new unknown phenomenon, and this is not a metal ball 58 centimeters in earth orbit, but a military machine, never before seen in action with all its new weapons, which Vladimir Putin was able to carefully launch even in a period of devastating crisis of falling oil prices.

The military and operational team in the White House and the Pentagon survived difficult clocks, the result of which was the following news: Obama radically changed course and announced that he was not even thinking about withdrawing troops from Afghanistan. Starship soldiers will remain in the region to counterbalance Russian forces in the theater of operations.

The troops of Moscow existed in American and European perception until now under the sign of the Soviet cliche: millions of soldiers in a well-worn uniform march, accompanied by a roar and smell armory lubricants of millions tons of iron. Now, after the intervention in Syria, we are faced with Russia, which has gone beyond the borders of the old empire, which has not happened since the time of Afghanistan.

Surprise with deployment and unexpectedly fast planning led leaders and analysts to conclude that the military operation in Syria had been in preparation for months.

In reality, the Russian armed forces did not conduct unexpected and impressive actions for the first time: when Stalin decided to expel the Japanese army from Manchuria in 1945 in order to balance the effect of the American atomic bombing, he relied on the excellent troops that had previously fought in Europe, and industrial arms production, deployed at that time to a maximum. Huge transport aircraft delivered divisions and weapons to battlefields as part of an operation on the ground and in the air of unprecedented proportions. Of the eight hundred thousandth Japanese army there was not a trace. Today the situation is, of course, different. However, American analysts have noted clear progress compared to Russian intervention in Georgia in 2008, not to mention the secret war in Ukraine. Not everything went smoothly in Georgia: Putin lost several planes, and the infantry was not up to par. Seven years have passed since then, and during this period the idea of ​​the Russian army has radically changed: you see these soldiers on TV, and they look like Americans. They show the shooting of their bombardments and treat the Americans like nerds (“They have cockroaches in their heads,” Putin said). Uniforms, torpedo ships, command posts, everything looks as if at an exhibition, and fights accordingly.

What will happen when Americans recover from injury? The Pentagon is accused of having missed data on changes. The CIA, of course, also gets it, although American intelligence has long been sounding the alarm, especially in Central Europe. Experience stories says that the United States is capable of correcting its reset, which was done whenever it was necessary to confront the numerically superior powers on the battlefield (as was once Germany and Japan). But today we are not talking, thank God, about the military clash of superpowers, but only about understanding what is happening - and not making mistakes.
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  1. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 25 October 2015 06: 56 New
    133
    I agree, Serge!
    1. Sharapov
      Sharapov 25 October 2015 07: 24 New
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      Оказывается, макаронники знают нашу историю лучше нас?. Это до какого кретинизма упасть нужно, чтобы накарябать, что Сталин напал на Японию для уравновешивания эффекта от американской атомной бомбардировки.... БРЕДЯТИНА.... А насчет "ОГРОМНЫХ транспортных самолетов доставлявших дивизии и вооружение для войны с Квантунской армией"?? СМЕХ. Не было у нас тогда транспортников таких. На паровозах армия ехала через всю страну..
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      2. JACTUS RECTUS
        JACTUS RECTUS 25 October 2015 08: 37 New
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        Ignorance is wild, I agree. For this, and for the penultimate sentence, the article is minus.
        1. BilliBoms09
          BilliBoms09 25 October 2015 09: 29 New
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          Everyone was injured, and this can only be compared with one event: the launch of the first artificial Earth satellite on October 4, 1957.
          What kind of Americans are gentle, a little panicky and fainting. You see the trauma ... psychoanalysts work ... wink
          1. Fight cat
            Fight cat 25 October 2015 19: 26 New
            +1
            Quote: BilliBoms09
            Everyone was injured, and this can only be compared with one event: the launch of the first artificial Earth satellite on October 4, 1957.
            What kind of Americans are gentle, a little panicky and fainting. You see the trauma ... psychoanalysts work ... wink

            so mattresses consider themselves exceptional !!! laughing
          2. nemets
            nemets 27 October 2015 20: 46 New
            0
            they only work for them) do not want to talk about it?
        2. skeket
          skeket 25 October 2015 16: 27 New
          +3
          Quote: JACTUS RECTUS
          Ignorance is wild, I agree. For this, and for the penultimate sentence, the article is minus.

          Цитата из текста: "В Грузии не все прошло гладко: Путин потерял несколько самолетов, пехота тоже не была на высоте. С тех пор прошло семь лет, и за этот период представление о российской армии радикально изменилось: ты видишь этих солдат по ТВ, и они выглядят как американцы. Они показывают съемки своих бомбардировок"

          It’s one thing to bomb terror and banana republics, filming this with drones and quite another, to fight against a trained regular army, even if not the most powerful one, there will inevitably be losses.
          1. chief.matros
            chief.matros 26 October 2015 21: 13 New
            +2
            а самолеты мы потеряли благодаря мазепам-украинцам, которые передали ракеты ПВО грузинам, и они определялись по системе "свой-чужой" как наши, после этого пришлось миллиарды рублей тратить не переделку схемы
            1. Sasha_Sar
              Sasha_Sar 27 October 2015 17: 01 New
              +1
              Так эти уродцы на кнопку "ПУСК" нажимали....
          2. cheega69
            cheega69 27 October 2015 14: 41 New
            +1
            Nevertheless, the level of training was completely different. I am silent about the level of management and communication. What about aviation? 1-3 aircraft from Tula? So the author is right in this.
          3. Greyjojo
            Greyjojo 27 October 2015 21: 30 New
            0
            in 2008 stupidly took in quantity and in a snap, there was no current command, no plan, no equipment.
            A friend participated in that operation, told that the first losses were before meeting with the Georgians.
            Matalygi came supposedly new. Really junk painted with new paint. Mountain brakes do not work. Plus inexperience of drivers. As a result, on the march, she smiled down one more time.
      3. kagorta
        kagorta 25 October 2015 09: 01 New
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        He meant that during the war with Japan, we had more than 20 landings landed. And that these landings gave a very good result. And for the Italian and Li-2, a huge transporter.
        1. anderles66
          anderles66 27 October 2015 15: 31 New
          +1
          Согласен. Как-то в училище, на занятиях по истории военного искусства подробно разбирали операцию против Квантунской армии. С учетом десантов и прочих составляющих, включая масштаб, это была военная "операция будущего" по мнению преподавателя и я с ним согласен.
      4. The lead
        The lead 25 October 2015 09: 05 New
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        Quote: Sharapov
        А насчет "ОГРОМНЫХ транспортных самолетов доставлявших дивизии и вооружение для войны с Квантунской армией"??
        All this, of course, has no correspondence with reality, the armies were transferred with the help of millions of giant airships, with hundreds of thousands of parachutist bears wassat
      5. sssla
        sssla 25 October 2015 09: 26 New
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        Quote: Sharapov
        It is to what cretinism it is necessary to fall

        Until this one -
        The experience of history says that the United States is able to adjust its reset, which was done whenever it was necessary to confront the numerically superior powers on the battlefields (as once Germany and Japan). But today we are not talking, thank God, about a military clash of superpowers
        1. olegglin
          olegglin 25 October 2015 17: 00 New
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          The experience of history says that the United States is able to adjust its reset, which was done whenever it was necessary to confront the numerically superior powers on the battlefields (as once Germany and Japan). But today we are not talking, thank God, about a military clash of superpowers


          "С точки зрения искусства дипломатии, Путин — счастливчик. Редкому мировому лидеру выпадает возможность использовать правду как оружие. Англосаксонский мир так сильно запутался в собственной лжи, что для эффективной публичной дискредитации не требуется ничего, кроме правды. Российский лидер находится в том положении, в котором он может себе позволить роскошь эту правду говорить. Еще сильнее испортить отношения с невменяемой частью американского истеблишмента уже просто невозможно, а значит можно публично рассказать о том, как США поддерживают террористов, третируют европейских вассалов и врут о ЕвроПРО. «Король — голый», — как бы говорит российский президент, прозрачно намекая, что сошедший с ума «дядюшка Сэм» уже потерял корону."
          1. Asadullah
            Asadullah 26 October 2015 00: 35 New
            +1
            A rare world leader has the opportunity to use the truth as a weapon.


            Surprisingly, you outlined the main life position of our President.
          2. anderles66
            anderles66 27 October 2015 15: 38 New
            0
            I agree to all 100% and even more. the main problem of the present world - and many would be happy to go through life with truth, but this is usually mortally dangerous - either the virus of revolution can be caught or a bullet (adjusted for the scale of states) can fly into my head. Russia is now an exception in the sense that it is not afraid and, I hope, reasonably, of this danger. I believe that this is precisely the strength of Putin. Several times I read Western (and even Arabic) comments on various topics related to Russia (where they are not moderated and cut). Ordinary people feel very well where the truth is. Here, too, there is one exception, as I see it - Ukraine.
          3. Insurgent LC
            Insurgent LC 27 October 2015 19: 02 New
            +2
            I think so even shorter can say so about the Anglo-Saxons
        2. nemets
          nemets 27 October 2015 20: 48 New
          0
          I agree stupidity goes off scale
      6. Alekseev
        Alekseev 25 October 2015 10: 00 New
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        Quote: Sharapov
        do pasta know our history better than us ?. It is to what cretinism it is necessary to fall to scribble

        That's right!
        И таких журнализдов в гейропе "больше, чем до фига".
        Sometimes, looking at them, at different Psakas, one wonders: did they even study at their own college?
        1. a housewife
          a housewife 26 October 2015 04: 31 New
          +1
          Well, what they were taught, that is what they learned. For example, the fact that the US army opposed the numerically superior powers on the battlefield! This is when our army saved them from destruction, or what? Or when the Germans in the west surrendered to them, if only not to get ours? Warriors ...
      7. Aleksandr72
        Aleksandr72 25 October 2015 10: 27 New
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        In reality, the Russian armed forces did not conduct unexpected and impressive actions for the first time: when Stalin decided to expel the Japanese army from Manchuria in 1945 in order to balance the effect of the American atomic bombing, he relied on the excellent troops that had previously fought in Europe, and industrial arms production, deployed at that time to a maximum.

        Уважаемые коллеги, полагаю, что вы не тот момент статьи делаете акцент. Полагаю, это мое личное мнение, которого я, боже упаси, никому не навязываю, журналист-макаронник сравнивает "зеленых человечков" и их операции с победоносной Красной Армией 1945 года, которой на суше тогда не было равных в мире. Вспоминает итальянец и В.И. Сталина. Никаких аналогий не направшивается? wassat It is clear that all these fabrications reflect the psychology of a frightened European man in the street. But how symptomatic!
        I have the honor. hi
        1. nemets
          nemets 27 October 2015 20: 50 New
          0
          it’s time for them to dunk ***
      8. Altona
        Altona 25 October 2015 11: 37 New
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        Quote: Sharapov
        It turns out that pasta knows our history better than us ?. It’s what kind of cretinism you need to fall to scribble that Stalin attacked Japan to balance the effect of the American atomic bombing .... BRYEDIN ...

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        Статья чисто пропагандистская, никакого знания истории тут не требуется...Если писать, что "по просьбе союзников Сталин осуществил наземную операцию и т.д.", то толерантная редакция просто не пропустит статью...Написано в хлесткой манере, чтобы сходу замордовать западного читателя...Нормальная статья, лучше они не напишут...Посыл статьи "хватай мешки, вокзал отходит", пардон "русские уже здесь и они готовы диктовать миру"...
        1. Thronekeeper
          Thronekeeper 25 October 2015 13: 58 New
          +3
          Тоже считаю, что статья вполне себе нормальная. Итальянский журналист пишет об американском мировосприятии. Не для кого не новость, каким оружием обладает Россия. 2013г сентябрь. Эштон картер говорит о "путинском экспрессе", имея ввиду работу ВВС через Каспий, Иран, Ирак. Картер и Демпси в 13-м нагнули Обамку раком, поскольку, что за зверь "Оникс", Ту-22М3А1, С-350, "Северодвинск" и иже, даже МиГ-29М2, который 8 Ф-16 шаурмы гонял, куда не гонял телят Макар, им было известно. Ставка на инсургентов в Сирии была сделана именно потому, что попытки действовать авиацией и флотом привели бы к недопустимому уровню потерь, не только в технике, но и в л/с.
          This has become news for the financial establishment, or for the journalist. For the US military, this is not news.
          И проспали или прос*али оне сирийскую операцию так же, как ранее проспали оперейшн "Няш-мяш". Превосходство в РЭП, средствах поражения и стратегическом планировании с обеспечением секретности, для Пенти и ЦРУ это неизбывная головная боль, причём старая, а для бизнесяр и журноламеров - откровение. Сравнимое со Спутником - тоже верно.
      9. meriem1
        meriem1 25 October 2015 13: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Sharapov
        Оказывается, макаронники знают нашу историю лучше нас?. Это до какого кретинизма упасть нужно, чтобы накарябать, что Сталин напал на Японию для уравновешивания эффекта от американской атомной бомбардировки.... БРЕДЯТИНА.... А насчет "ОГРОМНЫХ транспортных самолетов доставлявших дивизии и вооружение для войны с Квантунской армией"?? СМЕХ. Не было у нас тогда транспортников таких. На паровозах армия ехала через всю страну..


        They are generally strange there in the west. They still think that in the winter bears roam around Moscow ... And we drink vodka directly from the samovar. Unhappy ... What do you take from them. Who came and lived in Russia, well, except for professional intelligence, he does not want to leave ....
        1. roskot
          roskot 25 October 2015 14: 56 New
          +1
          Why think. In childhood, they drove a head that we have bears on the street. So they believe that we drink vodka from a samovar.
        2. zennon
          zennon 25 October 2015 17: 21 New
          12
          Quote: meriem1
          They are generally strange there in the west. They still think that in the winter bears roam around Moscow ... And we drink vodka directly from the samovar. Unhappy ...

          True meriem1.Me also jars. Every cultured person will pour vodka in a saucer and will drink it in sugar. And first we pour the bear. You are polite ...
      10. roskot
        roskot 25 October 2015 14: 53 New
        +2
        The Boulogne system in action. All under one comb are taught. And they want to drive us there. To not think ...
        1. cheega69
          cheega69 27 October 2015 14: 46 New
          +1
          Already driven.
      11. Sterlya
        Sterlya 25 October 2015 21: 00 New
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        Quote: Sharapov
        Оказывается, макаронники знают нашу историю лучше нас?. Это до какого кретинизма упасть нужно, чтобы накарябать, что Сталин напал на Японию для уравновешивания эффекта от американской атомной бомбардировки.... БРЕДЯТИНА.... А насчет "ОГРОМНЫХ транспортных самолетов доставлявших дивизии и вооружение для войны с Квантунской армией"?? СМЕХ. Не было у нас тогда транспортников таких. На паровозах армия ехала через всю страну..

        yes the Arctic fox is northern.
        And about the second World War. They unleashed it with the great help of the Nuglosak people, and there they respected the interests of the exclusively naglosak people. We were in a great depression, went enriched at times, and Glavnyuk shit-democrat got hold of the territories, and everything else
      12. m1577
        m1577 25 October 2015 22: 40 New
        +4
        А чего вы,Володенька,хотите? Мой итальянский коллега по работе с несъёмной опалубкой ( я у него покупал) в ещё в далёком 2004 году поведал мне,что в победе под Москвой основную роль сыграли американские !морские! пехотинцы,которые из Сибири ! по лендлизу,Карл! доставили заботливые американцы. Если бы не они,кирдык бы Сталину.. Ну я и поржал тогда... Пришлось подарить ему 12 томник "Истории ВОВ". Теперь жалею,думаю,что он в неё не заглядывал даже, во избежание когнитивного диссонанса.
        1. Insurgent LC
          Insurgent LC 27 October 2015 19: 05 New
          +2
          well, at least I didn’t say that the Germans were struggling to look at the Red Square and the evil Russians misunderstood them and gave them a trend
      13. jPilot
        jPilot 26 October 2015 02: 17 New
        0
        Это пол беды, мне больше понравилось: "Опыт истории говорит, что США способны откорректировать свою перезагрузку, что делалось всякий раз, когда нужно было противостоять численно превосходящим державам на полях сражений (как когда-то Германии и Японии)." - о как!!!! Во какие они америкосы "МОЩНЫЕ" belay всех "победюли" laughing
        After that, in a fit I wanted to write a lot, but moderators think 90% will be cut out.
      14. SAILOROLD
        SAILOROLD 27 October 2015 13: 31 New
        0
        By steam locomotives ...

        ***
        That May thundered with fireworks ...
        Blooming bird cherry crazy ...
        And someone rushed to the East -
        Alas, not knowing their fate ...
      15. Cresta999
        Cresta999 27 October 2015 15: 18 New
        0
        Вы конечно правы, но только отчасти. Сами вы тоже историю не очень хорошо знаете. По крайней мере военную. Мы действительно задействовали транспортную авиацию для войны с Японией по не стандартному сценарию и в не стандартных масштабах. Дело в том, что наши танковые соединения шли вперед настолько быстро, что подвозить им горючее и боеприпасы приходилось именно самолетами транспортной авиации. Видимо это и имел в виду автор. Хотя, про "огромные" самолеты звучит действительно смешно.
      16. nemets
        nemets 27 October 2015 20: 45 New
        0
        Well, what do you want, they are victims of American propaganda)
      17. DOMINO100
        DOMINO100 28 October 2015 12: 51 New
        0
        and they didn’t go anywhere. The Far Eastern group soaked the Japanese. There they only threw the equipment.
    2. aktanir
      aktanir 25 October 2015 07: 28 New
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      Syria has yet to win, and this is an extremely difficult task. The hitch caused by aerial bombardment, the terrorists will pass, they will begin to adapt. The conquest of territories is already very slow, and may even stop altogether. Therefore, the victorious report that we are the best is still premature. The war has just begun.
      I would not be surprised if the ground forces of the Russian Federation are still involved in ground operations in some local areas.
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 25 October 2015 08: 59 New
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        Quote: aktanir
        Therefore, the victorious report that we are the best is still premature.

        I disagree, Caliber shots, virtuoso bombardments performed by the VKS orchestra, in a beautiful informational orangeries, have already brought the fruits of the first victories, at least in the heads of people, both foreign and, more importantly, our St. Thomas unbelievers and all the other all-encompassers. Once-Crimea is an accident for critics, the second Donbass-Lugansk is suggestive for stubborn skeptics, the third time Syria is armor-piercing into die-hard fools ...
        Z.Y. Behind these events lies more than seeing each other at first glance, for some it is a discovery, but for some it is already routine ...
      2. NordUral
        NordUral 25 October 2015 11: 04 New
        +5
        Да, обольщаться не стоит. Тем более, что и наши "партнеры2 выходят из шока. А этих ребят недооценивать не надо. Сами воевать не любят, да и не очень умеют (с равным противником), но науськивать и вооружать других очень неплохо научились. Так что меньше слов, а больше точных бомбежек. И сколько взлетов - столько и посадок на своей взлетке.
      3. skeket
        skeket 25 October 2015 16: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: aktanir
        I would not be surprised if the ground forces of the Russian Federation are still involved in ground operations in some local areas.

        не обязательно... Хохлы на Донбассе угомонились, а значит там осталось очень много "солдат удачи", которые без войны уже не смогут, тем более, если это будет очень не плохо оплачиваться. Главное Асаду отбить у басмачей, для начала, пару вышек, чтобы бабки тоненьким ручейком потекли, для оплаты наемников. Ну, а РФ должна подкинуть арту, танки, да боеприпасы, вот тогда наступление зашевелится очень даже...
      4. cheega69
        cheega69 27 October 2015 14: 49 New
        0
        Regarding Syria, I still do not understand whether financial flows will overlap or not. True, without the USA this is unrealistic. So ......
    3. 222222
      222222 25 October 2015 09: 48 New
      -6
      TV presenter from Novosibirsk told why the Russian Federation started a war in Syria!
      1. 222222
        222222 25 October 2015 09: 52 New
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        The opinion of the regions is also an opinion and should be reckoned with with him .. Internal problems are growing by leaps and bounds .. even with the help of local authorities and 5 .6 .7 .8 columns.
        1. EGOrkka
          EGOrkka 26 October 2015 04: 44 New
          0
          ..... Cho I didn’t notice that I live .... in the center of Moscow! I never whined and am not going to start! smile
        2. _GSVG_
          _GSVG_ 26 October 2015 13: 45 New
          +1
          А про мнение регионов уже проходила инфа, янкесы теперь "майданить" будут по регионам, раз "болотить" не получается.
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 25 October 2015 10: 54 New
        17
        Филиал "Дождя" в Новосибирске? Все вроде правильно говорит, только чуть чуть привирает - типа "Денег нет, скоро есть будет нечего". "Импортозамещение вызывает только смех" ну и так далее. Оба тезиса - откровенная ложь. Но вместе с остальным - прокатывает. Рекордные урожаи в России, активное наращивание производства основных продуктов - ведущая - не замечает. Полагаю, все же редактор. А насчёт импортозамещения - это не по наслышке знаю - активно раскручивается. И в оборонке, и не только. Да, кое что кое где. Воруют. Но меньше, чем раньше, и не так нагло. Сажают. Крупняк сажают. Дороги. Строят. Деньги - считать начали лучше. Пенсии депутатам - популизм в чистом виде. Кстати, характерная примета любых либерастических вбросов. Хочешь много зарабатывать - открывай своё дело - и зарабатывай. А если не хочешь бессонных ночей, нервной перегрузки и работы по 12 часов без выходных - иди в наёмные работники. Но тогда не жалуйся.
        1. Sid.74
          25 October 2015 11: 05 New
          10
          Quote: 222222
          TV presenter from Novosibirsk told why the Russian Federation started a war in Syria!

          A simple Russian woman from the outback, Maria London ...laughing Супруга Якова Лондона - главы ГТРК "Новосибирск".
          1. 222222
            222222 25 October 2015 14: 45 New
            +2
            Sid.74 (4) RU Today, 11: 05 ↑
            Простая русская баба из глубинки,Мария Лондон...laughing Супруга Якова Лондона - главы ГТРК "Новосибирск".
            laughing laughing laughing
          2. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 25 October 2015 18: 40 New
            +5
            Quote: Sid.74
            Простая русская баба из глубинки,Мария Лондон...laughing Супруга Якова Лондона - главы ГТРК "Новосибирск".

            Have they there for an hour Claudia Washington wasn’t lying anywhere or Dunya Tel Aviv?
            1. EGOrkka
              EGOrkka 26 October 2015 04: 46 New
              0
              ....да у них куча этого "добра"....за фантики...чо угодно.И страну в ЗПО.....легко.Вон в стране дураков...можно наковырять....тышами! wink
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        2. traveler
          traveler 25 October 2015 11: 25 New
          11
          ask people working in retail, retail, and wholesale. everywhere complete w ... well.
          the crisis is obvious, people really have no money. and apparently still will not be long.
          less or more they steal it; how do you know how to measure it? is there any statistics?
          corruption was, is and will be.
          here, for example, in the Murmansk region, it has become quite difficult to take garbage from someone, it is fraught with federal networks, the little thing has no money. so stupidly the slot machine halls all over the region opened up, there was plenty of good in the warehouses of material evidence. I want to eat something.
          but all such patriots, all for Putin as one. pictures of the leader on the wall above the work chair.
          all this servile state is rotten, but they are the support of the regime. what support is this and the mode.
          1. kepmor
            kepmor 25 October 2015 14: 16 New
            +1
            1000% SOLIDAR!
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 25 October 2015 18: 41 New
              0
              Quote: kepmor
              1000% SOLIDAR!

              Shaw, again? (with)
          2. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 26 October 2015 07: 55 New
            +4
            And you wanted to make a joke? So after the Maidan, not only rubles becomes less, but also the people. You, not very smart, will also affect you.
          3. fan_
            fan_ 26 October 2015 13: 02 New
            +2
            Want to eat, have probably already fainted from malnutrition? Maybe they want not to eat, but eat three throats?
          4. EGOrkka
            EGOrkka 26 October 2015 16: 12 New
            0
            traveler
            ask people working in commerce


            .... I have long said .... trade is a temporary matter .... And what are the benefits of trade ???? time bought and sold ..... ENDS! bully
            1. traveler
              traveler 26 October 2015 23: 19 New
              +1
              retail trade is the main indicator of economic activity and well-being of the population.
              people buy food, clothing, household appliances, stationery, etc., rather than shells and cruise missiles.
        3. NordUral
          NordUral 25 October 2015 11: 52 New
          +6
          If you want to earn a lot - open your own business - and earn.
          Have you tried it yourself?
        4. Karabanov
          Karabanov 25 October 2015 14: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Филиал "Дождя" в Новосибирске?

          The painfully familiar logic of militant cheers. Opinion different from the template is perceived only as an enemy. And a cry is heard for the whole interent - keep the traitor!
          Well, are people so stubborn? In my opinion, this host, whoever she highlighted the very pressing problems of modern Russia.
          I am always amazed that many people believe that you need to love your homeland in Putin's way, in the Edrosian way, otherwise you are not a patriot at all, but an Amer’s enemy, undermining the foundations of statehood. The authorities believe that they have privatized the concepts of patriotism and are foolish.
          1. 222222
            222222 25 October 2015 14: 57 New
            +4
            Karabanov (5) SU Today, 14:40 ↑
            Знакомая до боли логика, воинствующих ура-патриотов. .."
            And they should not fall to the level of problems of ordinary people .. wink
            Желающим ..наберите в поисковике простую фразу"видео состояние домов на 27.09.2015 года в пос. Шира Республики Хакасия"..там куча видео о беспределе застройщиков...А Хакасия (как и Новосибирская область) в списке шести регионов находящихся под пристальным вниманием американцев и местных либералов..
            1. asher
              asher 27 October 2015 15: 15 New
              +1
              Ordinary people build their own houses, work and earn money on their conscience, take loans according to their abilities, and not to hotel guests, and having bought (privatized for cheap) apartments take care of the repair of houses and porches and the cleanliness of their yards. But they bring their housing to ruin, do not pay for communal services for years, and only very very UNPLEASANT people demand handouts from the state. And they put sticks to the state, as soon as at least a little anti-American course is manifested, also the same UNPLEASANT people. One can see a lot of not ordinary people, but cunning minnows accumulated in Novosibirsk. All three letters ZICH urgently build more SU-34, as in the best Soviet years!
          2. mark2
            mark2 25 October 2015 15: 11 New
            +8
            Именно так и воспринимается, потому как те кто это мнение двигает сами замараны по самые уши. И неприятие иного мнение вызывает не само мнение, а то кто это мнение двигает! Оппозиционные лидеры сами замечены в коррупции и грязных делишках. История Каспарова произошла только на днях. Про Немцова тоже много чего рассказывали. А еще есть Пономорев, депутат сбежавший за границу и живущий там на непонятные доходы и прочие не очень "чистые" личности. Народ это все видит и помнит. И не думайте, что не понимает ничего. Так что не учите нас жить, лучше помогите материально!)

            And power, no matter how bad it is, has always been supported by the population at all times in the difficult year. It’s just not customary to change horses at the crossing. Now, when everything calms down, settles down, then you can think about what to do with this power. And now it’s such a year. And, I think, now only our Government and even less the President will accuse a few of the problems. We didn’t start a fight, but since we got involved we’ll fight. And it's not about the patterns. The Russian people with more than a thousand-year official history themselves can get out of the existing problems. And it will come out. Once again blame and our problems are not worth it. Everyone already sees them.

            The popularity of the President does not rest on the fact that he is cool, but on the fact that he makes the maximum out of what is possible so that the state remains a state and not a bunch of specific principalities. And the increased capabilities of the Russian Army is one of the indicators. The economy is not only decisions of the Party and the government, it is also the responsibility of business. If the Business is busy, investing seriously in something more technological than trade and transfer of resources, then no Government will help.
            1. Karabanov
              Karabanov 25 October 2015 15: 50 New
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              Do you seriously think that such comrades are sleeping and seeing as much benefit as possible to bring to their native country?
              These compradors have very far from patriotic thoughts ...
              1. asher
                asher 27 October 2015 15: 21 New
                +1
                Come on, at least at this cosmic scale, salaries are not the best, but big executives of large companies, and not a lot of them. It’s more annoying when the director of a music school from Mukhosk, where 30 people study, with the most honest look, gets more than 100 thousand. And there are many, very many. The entire pay system is skewed.
          3. _GSVG_
            _GSVG_ 26 October 2015 13: 59 New
            +1
            Let it highlight, but why the heck interfere with geopolitics and domestic politics? in her very first sentences. Yes, in the country ... but why? Is it because the country, to the surprise of the West, began to rise from its knees, straighten out, its voice appeared, remembered about interests on the world stage? And sanctions and all kinds of obstacles came to us precisely in order to destabilize the situation in the country, which was not the best, so that people could starve as much as possible (who got the loans there? But then the prices went up! Thanks to international democracy, but for world peace , except for the Russian Federation), such slut began to riot to open his mouth, FURTHERING popular discontent, just then and at that moment when everything around us is real, Russia is not at all simple. That would be the rubble about cutlets separately, about flies separately, this wife to whom.
          4. asher
            asher 27 October 2015 15: 08 New
            0
            The logic of the representatives of the democratic and, accordingly, super-wise, rooting for Russia stratum is more shameful. In contrast to the 90s, now everyone has already learned through bitter experience - put such wise men to manage not just a country, but at least write a town and lose everything - no honor, no conscience, no knowledge and skills. ANYTHING, on the contrary, everything goes into minus, is stolen and destroyed, but it’s beautiful to criticize it - you won’t take it away!
        5. Platonich
          Platonich 25 October 2015 15: 53 New
          +7
          You want to say that everything is fine with us! Both the leaky budget and the 2016 East have been turned into a Russian garbage dump: money is being stolen by billions, the quality of work is lower than the baseboard, and what the hell have increased for pensioners, and inflation is 0,0000%, and medicine in .ope and education, and agriculture on a huge height !? She said everything correctly. In Moscow, they do not have time to take on new metro stations and interchanges and parking lots, and in the outback suck! Federal funding for the poor and slaves !!! And so all is well, beautiful marquise!
          1. Karabanov
            Karabanov 25 October 2015 16: 31 New
            +6
            Жителям столиц и крупных мегаполисов настоятельно рекомендую иногда спускаться на землю. И ездить для увеличения кругозора не по сытым европам и турциям, а в российскую провинцию. Посмотреть так сказать на месте всю "мощь", а по факту немощь государства российского. И в каком извините дерьме пребывает глубинка, без работы, без зарплат, без нормальных ЖКХ, медицины... И все это при тотальном воровстве местных чинуш.
            And then we have a beautiful picture on TV, blurring and hushing up existing problems. And then it’s not customary to scold the snickering authorities.
            You can easily get rid of a patriot, you just have to shout - Russia, go ahead! Putin well done! And all of you are not a * bic patriot.
            1. KaPToC
              KaPToC 26 October 2015 00: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: Karabanov
              out of employment

              Work shaft, for those who are willing to work, not enough warm places for those who are more equal than others.
              1. asiat_61
                asiat_61 26 October 2015 02: 15 New
                +4
                For a penny of work shaft, for money there is no work.
            2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
              Uncle VasyaSayapin 26 October 2015 13: 37 New
              +1
              Each district center-Krasnogorsk and Kushchevka in one bottle. And this is not all the characters climbed out. And for 250 km from the millionaire, deserting already begins.
        6. Platonich
          Platonich 25 October 2015 15: 57 New
          +1
          And try to open your own business at 14% per annum! No sleepless nights will be enough, and you will overload in your own leaky underpants!
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 25 October 2015 19: 10 New
            +3
            Who wants to open his own business will open.
        7. Bochik
          Bochik 26 October 2015 23: 15 New
          0
          Aunt with a speaking last name - London.
      3. NordUral
        NordUral 25 October 2015 11: 14 New
        +7
        Not everything can be agreed, but minus the point. Facts are stubborn things. Help in Syria is necessary and necessary. But you also need to think about affairs in your own country. Corrupt bureaucrat will gobble up the country. And the Georgadze case in Krasnogorsk - the first bell of many coming ones - highlights the corruption of the link between power and business in Russia.
        It’s time to determine whether they are fastened to a brace or return to normal life, where the national treasure will again become truly national, and not a lying enticing story in GAZPROM advertising. TIME!
        1. Oper6300
          Oper6300 25 October 2015 14: 46 New
          +1
          Про ГААЗПРОМ согласен."+"
        2. mark2
          mark2 25 October 2015 15: 21 New
          +6
          Facts facts ... And you do not give bribes to the cops, not officials. Break the wall in accordance with the law. Laws for whom are written? All the rights and obligations of all officials and citizens are registered there, all procedures for passing initiatives and making decisions in the authorities are written there. None of us want to read them and use them. they all hope for bribes. Everyone needs everything at once. And quickly only through bribes.
          The doctor refused to accept the patient? To court at him or the hospital. Canetel? yes, still what. but in another way it will not work. Or pay the doctor for everything. Didn’t arrive during the ambulance? In court on her or the state because of which the city lacks ambulances. Not? Then pay bribes! What are you whining for? Until we ourselves begin to fight bribery, this will never stop.
          If everyone (and this is utopia) will have a relationship with the state apparatus by law, then they will stop taking bribes. because no one will give it, and if they extort it, they will receive a lawsuit in court. But this is not possible) There will always be those who will be ready to pay a bit, but will go like clockwork. or just out of cowardice before the official will bring and do as he says!
          1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
            Uncle VasyaSayapin 26 October 2015 13: 52 New
            0
            Про ментов согласен, а вот с чиновниками так не пройдёт. Хотите заниматься поставками государству - платите чиновникам. Вариантов нет. Даже если собственник фирмы - МО, вы им (МО) просто так ничего не поставите. На суды им всем плевать, не они платят, а государство. Судами можно получить компенсацию, но не улучшить "гос.сервис".
      4. EGOrkka
        EGOrkka 25 October 2015 11: 31 New
        -4
        ..... daughters of officers ... already in Novosibirsk ?????
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 25 October 2015 23: 20 New
          +1
          Do not distort. Behind her slight distortion about starving the country, she was telling the truth.
          1. EGOrkka
            EGOrkka 26 October 2015 04: 40 New
            +1
            NordUral
            about starving the country


            ....вы с ума спятили? какое оголодание? ...машин во дворах ....пройти невозможно....магазины....полны!....пенсии...выдают!Уж не голодают ли они от недостатка....пармезана и рокфора? Что опять налетели "свистомые" на монитор свои сопли вешать? Да хоть ...завешайтесь..... drinks
      5. YGV-97219
        YGV-97219 25 October 2015 12: 42 New
        +1
        And what is courage? We have freedom of speech which is not in more than one country! Such brave men are a dime a dozen! Yes, and the name has and the name of the program in Aglitsky speaks for itself, a typical libroid person!
        1. Oper6300
          Oper6300 25 October 2015 14: 47 New
          +2
          But besides the transition to personality there are no arguments?
          1. 23 region
            23 region 25 October 2015 15: 59 New
            +3
            Quote: Oper6300
            But besides the transition to personality there are no arguments?

            Arguments There!
            1. EGOrkka
              EGOrkka 26 October 2015 06: 17 New
              0
              ...недалекие ,глупые "укросвистомые" из последних сил вы пытаетесь сделать то что сделали с Украиной.....Вас не учит ничего: не история ,ни свой ...опыт. Ради печенек и фантиков развалили собственную страну....Зачем? зачем вам земля? зачем вам заводы?...обалдевшие и отупевшие...вы способны только...разрушать!И на кой вы нам?????????? hi
      6. NyeMoNik70
        NyeMoNik70 25 October 2015 13: 13 New
        +3
        ОООО! У вас там аидо-будёновцев рвёт не на шутку. Сколько пены из ротика, как жилы натягиваются у подкрашенной "сибирячки". Врагов внутренних бешено колотит падучая. Как же они хотят революцию, граж.войну, разруху и уничтожения всех кто не с ними. Рахель надо дать укргражданство.
        1. EGOrkka
          EGOrkka 26 October 2015 04: 48 New
          0
          .... profit ... hotts .... and in the ruin ... nichrome ... net ... that’s laughing
      7. mark2
        mark2 25 October 2015 14: 32 New
        +3
        Brave And what is the courage? Blame or ridicule the distant Moscow authorities from distant Novosibirsk for this courage?
        У нас тоже есть такие "герои" на местном ТВ в рамках программы "Эха Москвы". Сидят 2-3 человека и прикалываются на =д инициативами Президента, Государственной думы и т.д., зная что кроме местных это никто не увидит и не услышит. Про местные власти они не говорят вообще ибо чревато закрытием или отмены финансирования)
        They are heroes only in certain situations when it is known that there will be no consequences)
      8. _GSVG_
        _GSVG_ 26 October 2015 13: 45 New
        0
        Slut dyed with (I heard correctly? With the surname London?).
        Where is our article in the Criminal Code about treason and undermining of power?
      9. Dmitry Donskoy
        Dmitry Donskoy 26 October 2015 21: 06 New
        0
        It would not hurt to carry out an equally effective and rapid operation REAL anti-corruption within the country, as the operation of the aerospace forces in Syria
      10. chief.matros
        chief.matros 26 October 2015 21: 20 New
        -1
        before you minus the whole movie, you’re right about what’s going on with pensions, work, embezzlement, and the war in Syria in its plot remains in the background, people think
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      12. asher
        asher 27 October 2015 15: 01 New
        0
        Nice city of Novosibirsk. Su-24 produced for a long time, now the Su-34. Many other very useful things and discoveries thanks to the working people. But there is such a wretched home there that is always against no matter who is in power if it does not meet American interests. Typical horn of the 5th column.
    4. 222222
      222222 25 October 2015 10: 55 New
      +6
      Armored Optimist (4) RU Today, 06:56 AM
      Согласен, Серега!""""""""""""&
      quot;"

      To l and with with to and to and !!
    5. marlin1203
      marlin1203 25 October 2015 12: 57 New
      0
      Короче -"Сиди, обезьяна, смотри и руками ничего не трогай!" laughing
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 26 October 2015 01: 04 New
        0
        This is a quote from a very famous joke about space.
    6. With Siberian Cranes
      With Siberian Cranes 25 October 2015 13: 00 New
      +2
      Do not slide into HS
    7. antiexpert
      antiexpert 25 October 2015 15: 02 New
      +2
      Strength is always in force. And in nothing else. In Ancient Films they said: "power is where the truth is." Indeed, they are always there. But not because power comes where the truth is. It really creeps in where the power is. When people try to understand where the truth is, they really quietly wonder where the power is now. And when the force leaves, everyone unanimously notes - the truth is gone. A person does not feel this with his mind, but with his heart. And the heart wants to survive mainly.
      When the last Neanderthals were finished off, there was no truth left for them, even though before that she had been with them for a million years. The truth is where life is. And where there is no life, there is no truth, no lies.
      © SNUFF Victor Pelevin
    8. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 26 October 2015 11: 54 New
      0
      Article - hodgepodge from other articles !!! Reading it, I could not get rid of the feeling of plagiarism from last week in any way .. essense minus request
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    10. Insurgent LC
      Insurgent LC 27 October 2015 18: 58 New
      -1
      strength in the Russian spirit
    11. kamil_tt
      kamil_tt 27 October 2015 19: 24 New
      +1
      insanity grows stronger)
    12. Spnsr
      Spnsr 27 October 2015 21: 16 New
      0
      it remains to create the conditions for them to break their spine in the next arms race! and they will start! but this should be the beginning of their end.
  2. venaya
    venaya 25 October 2015 07: 03 New
    +9
    Yeah. Our troops flew into Syria like the wind. The impression is complete .... You can understand the Italians, no one just expected anything like that.
  3. yuriy55
    yuriy55 25 October 2015 07: 08 New
    +7
    Uniforms, torpedo ships, command posts, everything looks as if at an exhibition, and fights accordingly.


    A little different:
    Uniforms, torpedo ships, command posts, everything looks as if at an exhibition, but it fights properly. soldier
  4. Skif83
    Skif83 25 October 2015 07: 09 New
    21
    ... you see these soldiers on TV, and they look like Americans ...

    In my opinion, an incorrect comparison.
    A Russian soldier, no matter how equipped he is, is always a cut above!
    This is evidenced by history, Russia has fought and won so many times, but the AMERS did not even dream of.
    What is one serious military company that the US won? I don’t remember ...
    The spirit of the Russian Soldier, this is a derivative of the Russian Soul, which can not be understood in the West.
    He is invincible!
    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 25 October 2015 11: 27 New
      +2
      Возможно имелось в виду "выглядят как американцы" значит классно оснащены, экипированы и технологичны.
    2. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 25 October 2015 12: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: Skif83
      In my opinion, an incorrect comparison.

      And they did not think, Dear colleague, that this is written by a foreigner, a citizen of a country that is a member of NATO, and for him, in addition to the American soldier, there are simply no other criteria.

      Something like that, colleague. hi
      1. Throw
        Throw 25 October 2015 17: 48 New
        0
        No, these are Italians, they have criteria for assessing a soldier’s combat readiness, not according to the Spirit and the BMP, but according to clothes and hanging trinkets. Like the Papuans laughing
    3. Prometey
      Prometey 25 October 2015 20: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: Skif83
      What is one serious military company that the US won? I don’t remember ..

      США официально проиграли только одну войну во Вьетнаме. Ну а насчет серьезных войн, в которых побеждали США - первая мировая и вторая, видимо так - мелконькие дворовые потасовки, не то что "доблестная" советско-финская 1939-1940 гг. Хорош дилетантизм пропагандировать.
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 26 October 2015 00: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Prometey
        The United States officially lost only one war in Vietnam.

        Между "проиграть" и "победить" ещё есть "не проиграть" и "не победить". Американцы как минимум не победили в Гренаде, Сомали, на Кубе, в Корее. Тяжко американцам даются победы несмотря на огромные ресурсы, давят численным превосходством и то срабатывает через раз.
  5. vell.65
    vell.65 25 October 2015 07: 14 New
    13
    They did not expect that they would put on them and at the same time give a kick, bravo Russia !!!
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 26 October 2015 14: 02 New
      0
      The whole operation takes place with the consent of the amers. Both rockets and aircraft flew into Syria through Iraq. If the US closes the sky in Iraq, the operations of the Russian Armed Forces in Syria will be problematic.
  6. guznorodov
    guznorodov 25 October 2015 07: 20 New
    17
    After the Crimea, you can expect anything, but the accuracy of actions and lightning speed are amazing. And not coalition blows with spread fingers.
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    2. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 25 October 2015 07: 42 New
      +8
      Quote: guznorodov
      After the Crimea, you can expect anything, but the accuracy of actions and lightning speed are amazing. And not coalition blows with spread fingers.

      This suggests that the Russian leadership is very sensitive to the situation, using the opportunities offered to strengthen Russia.
    3. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 25 October 2015 07: 45 New
      +8
      ...поражает продуманность....Путин не "включает" Хрущева....а от него именно этого и ожидали... hi
  7. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 25 October 2015 07: 28 New
    +6
    And still not such surprises from Russia you will see gentlemen Pind .... Sy, wait.
  8. Foresterer
    Foresterer 25 October 2015 07: 35 New
    15
    Against this background, the landing of the US Marines in Portugal does not even look ridiculous, but ridiculous. Do they even know anything? Our guys at least on their shoulders, but would have endured! Now they’ll get stuck in the sand, then they will get lost in the taiga, then they will crash in their own way, then their gang of Bedouins will run, and this is the elite of the US Armed Forces.
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 25 October 2015 07: 44 New
      +4
      So they serve for loot, and not for conscience.
    2. plotnikov561956
      plotnikov561956 25 October 2015 08: 29 New
      +3
      This landing is more like a sortie of a drunken companion ... who does not know where to start .. whether to drink .. whether to drag equipment from the mud
    3. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 25 October 2015 11: 35 New
      +1
      Да "десант" произвёл неизгладимое впечатление. Ну разве объяснить натовцам отличие значений русских слов self-confidence(Amer landing in Portugal) and confidence in itself (actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria)?
      Они и подумать не могли, что их "ХамВИ" застревают в пляжном песке. Представляю как наши морпехи смотрели этот сюжет.
    4. Pulya
      Pulya 25 October 2015 17: 31 New
      0
      Nooo brother ... the mattress elite pulled these jeeps into the light ... they just ran out of Pepsi-Cola combat stock ... and the dashing landing was confused ... But the rest, these guys are big PRO
  9. bear
    bear 25 October 2015 07: 40 New
    +4
    We have such a habit, fewer words, more business. So everything turns out well.
  10. VseDoFeNi
    VseDoFeNi 25 October 2015 07: 40 New
    +4
    Да полно вам. Это не русские слишком сильны, это "прогрессивный" Запад слишком ослаб совсем зажравшись и вымирая в своей толерантности и долгах.
  11. demo
    demo 25 October 2015 08: 08 New
    13
    The experience of history says that the United States is able to adjust its reboot, which was done whenever it was necessary to confront the numerically superior powers on the battlefields (as once Germany and Japan).

    What kind of battlefields are we talking about?
    About Pearl Hubble?
    Or about the island war in the southern seas?
    And under artillery fire, on your land did not try to fight? Or under the bombing of their cities, where the enemy does not make out whether you are military or civilian, they bomb everyone in a row, didn’t you try like that?
    First try the intervention, and then show how you can knock out the enemy!

    Well, recently, we all watched what an American soldier looked like when landing in Portugal.
    So God forbid our soldiers to be like this herd!
    1. anderles66
      anderles66 27 October 2015 15: 52 New
      0
      The experience is wonderful. Of course, everyone has military failures, but the Americans cannot have them. belay . Найдите информацию про американскую операцию "Коттедж". Даже где-то здесь, на сайте есть статья. Оборжётесь. По времени соизмерима с разгромом Квантунской армии.
  12. delvin-fil
    delvin-fil 25 October 2015 08: 10 New
    +3
    Putin's war in Syria

    "Сильно" сказано! Прям как "Путин сбил Боинг"
  13. shinobi
    shinobi 25 October 2015 08: 19 New
    +4
    However, this is an indicator of the real quality of the army of mattresses. Strikes in Syria, the message of the USA and their hangers-on. We don’t need to scare us with our pieces of iron. We also have them. They are smaller, but they are cooler. And no one knows how to fight. It's time to negotiate. And they won’t go anywhere.
  14. SPB 1221
    SPB 1221 25 October 2015 08: 20 New
    +4
    Strange people in the West have always believed and still believe that Russia is a barbaric country, that the lot of our people is slavery, submission and darkness. I personally do not care about their opinion!
    Главное пусть помнят, Рим пал от варваров и если надо будет еще раз падет. Наш щит был на вратах Царьграда и если надо будет еще, мы приколотим наши щиты на все города Европы и штатов. Пусть выражение "русские идут", вызывает у "продвинутого" запада панический ужас. Любить нас там никогда не будут, а завидовать и ненавидеть всегда!!! Так пусть боятся и уважают, за нашу силу, за нашу непредсказуемость, за наши огромные просторы и Русский дух!
    1. JACTUS RECTUS
      JACTUS RECTUS 25 October 2015 08: 46 New
      +1
      You may not be aware, but the shield on the gates of Constantinople means that the power to which the shield belongs is in vassal dependence on Byzantium, from which our historians took it, that it is the other way round, I don’t understand. This is for the sake of objectivity.
      1. morozik
        morozik 25 October 2015 09: 08 New
        +9
        the shield on the gates of Constantinople means that the power to which the shield belongs is in vassal dependence

        where did you get that ??

        "Цари же Леон и Александр заключили мир с Олегом, обязались уплачивать дань и присягали друг другу: сами целовали крест, а Олега с мужами его водили присягать по закону русскому, и клялись те своим оружием и Перуном, своим богом, и Волосом, богом скота, и утвердили мир. И сказал Олег: „Сшейте для руси паруса из паволок, а славянам копринные», – и было так. И повесил щит свой на вратах в знак победы, и пошел от Царьграда. И подняла русь паруса из паволок, а славяне копринные, и разодрал их ветер; и сказали славяне: „Возьмем свои толстины, не даны славянам паруса из паволок». И вернулся Олег в Киев, неся золото, и паволоки, и плоды, и вино, и всякое узорочье. И прозвали Олега Вещим, так как были люди язычниками и непросвещенными".
        PVL
        1. JACTUS RECTUS
          JACTUS RECTUS 25 October 2015 09: 20 New
          +1
          I know what is written in the annals, I don’t understand why it is believed that the shield on the gate is a sign of victory ??? If in other cases of that time the shield is a sign of vassal dependence ???
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 25 October 2015 09: 34 New
            +2
            Quote: JACTUS RECTUS
            I know what is written in the annals, I don’t understand why it is believed that the shield on the gate is a sign of victory ??? If in other cases of that time the shield is a sign of vassal dependence ???

            And how many vassal shields did the winners beat on the gates of Constantinople?
      2. Alexanderrr
        Alexanderrr 25 October 2015 09: 37 New
        +4
        Quote: JACTUS RECTUS
        You may not be aware, but the shield on the gates of Constantinople means that the power to which the shield belongs is in vassal dependence on Byzantium, from which our historians took it, that it is the other way round, I don’t understand. This is for the sake of objectivity.

        The shield on the gates means who owns this gate, and therefore under whose protection the city is located, in which the shield is adorned. The patron cannot be a vassal.
        This is so, for greater objectivity of your objective remark
        1. JACTUS RECTUS
          JACTUS RECTUS 25 October 2015 09: 59 New
          +1
          Your statements are not an axiom of gentlemen, why do you think that the truth is written in the annals ??? After all, then the nonsense about the kinship of Ivan the Terrible and the Emperor Augustus should also be taken as pure truth: Tsar Ivan Vasilievich IV the Terrible considered his oldest. “We are kinship from Augustus Caesar,” he wrote to the Swedish king, “this is also in the official record.
          1. morozik
            morozik 25 October 2015 10: 40 New
            +2
            Quote: JACTUS RECTUS
            Why do you think that the truth is written in the annals ???

            если рассуждать логически, то христианскому летописцу не было особого резону писать неправду в пользу "язычника" Олега.
            Tsar Ivan Vasilievich IV the Terrible clan considered his oldest. “We are being related by August Caesar”

            Well, why not think about it? history, as you yourself know, is greatly distorted by the Scaligerian school ... if Etruscan inscriptions in Italy were read only by the end of the 19th century, when Slavic roots began to be applied to them, then it is possible that the Slavic brothers from the Etruscans were the rulers of the Roman Empire )
            1. JACTUS RECTUS
              JACTUS RECTUS 25 October 2015 11: 17 New
              +1
              Это уже каким-то еврейским синдромом можно назвать.Ещё один "Богом избранный народ",везде ушки славянские торчат.
          2. morozik
            morozik 25 October 2015 10: 53 New
            0
            [Quote] After all, then the nonsense about the kinship of Ivan the Terrible and the Emperor Augustus, too, must be perceived as pure truth [quote]

            still caught
            " если верить сагам, песням и былинам Одоакр был сыном русской княжны и сверхъестественного отца (Змей в русских преданиях был воплощением громовержца Перуна и подземного владыки Велеса). Очень может быть, что княжна эта стала женой скирского вождя Эдикона, и тот усыновил ее сына. Эдикон кстати был в варварской Европе очень уважаемым человеком – одним из приближенных Аттилы. Вместе с будущим отцом последнего императора Запада Орестом он возглавлял гуннское посольство в Константинополь. После развала Гуннской империи на Скирское королевство обрушился отец Теодориха Остроготского Теодимир, также бывший полководец Аттилы. Эдикон погиб, а скиры были рассеяны. Видимо тогда и началась карьера Одоакра, безродного (отец его не известен), бродяги, лишенного наследства, принца русов (по матери) и скиров (он приемный сын рикса скиров)!
            Полубог (в легендах германцев и русов во всяком случае) Одоакр первый известный нам Вещий князь, что гораздо лучше позволяет нам понять отношение русов и значение этого титула. Одоакр – полубог, Всеслав Вещий Полоцкий – рожденный от волхвования, Олег Вещий… Вероятно и об Олеговом рождении существовали подобные предания. Может быть последующие русские князья были потомками Одоакра? Может быть именно отсюда берут начало легенды о происхождении московских государей от Августа?"

            but about Odoacre, a Russian hero, even under Bogdan Khmelnitsky everyone knew well))
    2. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 25 October 2015 09: 45 New
      0
      Yes, and the memory of pasta needs to be refreshed from time to time!
      Remind me how many Italian divisions took away the land near Stalingrad during the war!
  15. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 25 October 2015 08: 25 New
    +4
    Minus!
    Macaronnik argues that Putin is fighting everywhere, Putin is losing something, gaining it ... The gay-European liberal school is immediately visible, which now only knows how to lick the causal place from those who feed and dance. And these are the Zaokensk hosts from the Phashington regional committee. And it would not hurt to learn history. And then the signor knows more about who was balancing whom than the participants in those events ...
    Потому и восприятие столь неумелого анализа вызывает лично у меня негативное мнение. Хотя для напуганного придуманными угрозами западного "электората" сойдёт lol
    hi
  16. plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 25 October 2015 08: 25 New
    +2
    That .. that the West opened its mouths in surprise .. it’s clear how they will close ... it’s not the whole package of surprises from Russia that’s thought, Berries are ahead .. it’s Sarmat ... and BZHRK ... Yu-71 and much more, long list...
    1. roskot
      roskot 25 October 2015 15: 07 New
      0
      That's how they will live with their mouths open. Let them wonder and marvel. We will help you to be surprised.
  17. Erg
    Erg 25 October 2015 08: 29 New
    +3
    . She exposed herself to a real autodafa, which subsequently yielded results and allowed the first man to land on the moon. wassat Let them first learn to land on the beaches ... Clowns.
  18. BLOND
    BLOND 25 October 2015 08: 45 New
    +5
    The 15 of the New York Times printed a very well-documented text about the traumatic effect that Putin’s war in Syria produces in America. Everybody was injured, and this can only be compared with one event: the launch of the first artificial satellite of the Earth 4 on October 1957. Then America discovered that she was mistaken in everything: in school education, in military training, university courses, capital investments ... She exposed herself to this auto-da-fé, which subsequently gave results and allowed the first man to land on the moon.

    ... the first satellite was the first!
    ... and at the expense of the first person on the moon, we still haven’t photographed its back side (well, I don’t believe mattresses)
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 25 October 2015 09: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: BLOND
      On the 15th, the New York Times published a very well-documented text about the traumatic effect that Putin’s war on Syria has in America. Everyone was injured, and this can only be compared with one event: the launch of the first artificial Earth satellite on October 4, 1957. Then America discovered that it was mistaken in everything: in school education, in military training,


      This will just bring the next president to power with a great desire to take revenge and reassure the Americans ..
    2. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 25 October 2015 12: 16 New
      +1
      ... the first satellite was the first!

      Заметьте, что про Первого Человека в Космосе в макаронной статье вообще ни слова. Как будто для амеров полёт Гагарина не стал шоком. Им такой "шок" надо раз в 10-лет устраивать и тогда может"исключительность" пройдёт. "Шокотерапия" называется.
  19. Neophyte
    Neophyte 25 October 2015 08: 49 New
    +1
    Типичный анализ западного "аналитика"?Подчас,несет несусветный бред,плохо информирован и такие спецы в ЕС повсеместны!
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  21. smith7
    smith7 25 October 2015 08: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: aktanir
    Syria has yet to win, and this is an extremely difficult task. The hitch caused by aerial bombardment, the terrorists will pass, they will begin to adapt. The conquest of territories is already very slow, and may even stop altogether. Therefore, the victorious report that we are the best is still premature. The war has just begun.
    I would not be surprised if the ground forces of the Russian Federation are still involved in ground operations in some local areas.

    Абсолютно согласен. Регион со своими сложными проблемами, уходящими корнями в глубь веков, может оказаться крепким орешком. И русская пехота имеет все шансы сразиться на сирийских просторах с мировым злом. Даст Бог минует нас чаша сия... Но радует, что мы "сопли не жуем", готовимся... Но как всегда "медленно запрягаем". soldier
    PS А какие всплески "разума" в либерастских СМИ! ЭхоМацы с Шендеровичем и Латынииной просто брызжут слюной на счет "всепрапала". Типа "бросили (прос рали) Новороссию переключились на Сирию, чтоб поддержать рейтинг Путина, ибо более чем на "держать страну в страхе войны и коней на переправе не меняют" не способны. России не легко, но давайте расставим приоритеты. Считаю они верно расставлены. Вот бы еще образование и медицину отровнять... Справимся.
  22. SIMM
    SIMM 25 October 2015 09: 03 New
    +6
    What months of planning?!?
    You forgot how we in 1999, in Kosovo, did you squeeze the airport out in 30 minutes?
  23. Sea Wolf
    Sea Wolf 25 October 2015 09: 15 New
    29
    I’m a sailor, reserve officer, I would have fought well in a quilted jacket. I am sure. After all, all my ancestors are Siberian hunters, and I was born deaf in the village, which is already gone. I acquired all the skills of the current civilization, but I did not forget the former. In short, I can control both a steamboat and a tractor, shoot from a torpedo tube and from a rifle, walk in the ocean and in the taiga. I can harness a horse in a cart or sleigh, and move away from the pier on board a thousand-ton ship. I can even milk a cow. And still, I love the Motherland. And there are many of us in Russia. Be afraid.
  24. Sea Wolf
    Sea Wolf 25 October 2015 09: 17 New
    +2
    By the way, ami or pentos called everyone who lived in Latin America. It went from the sailors. In short, pentos means dyed.
  25. Babai Balkan
    Babai Balkan 25 October 2015 09: 25 New
    +2
    "JACTUS RECTUS Сегодня, 08:46↑НовыйВы может не в курсе,но щит на вратах Константинополя означает,что та держава коей принадлежит щит,находится в вассальной зависимости от Византии,с чего это взяли наши историк,что это наоборот,мне не понятно.Это так,ради объективности."
    Прткольная объективная логика!!!! Олег пёрся с войском по суху и на ладьях к стенам Константинопля за тыщщы км , сделал им "путинский шустрый манёвр" ладьями для полного окружения, чтоб не сбёг из Констатинопля от просящих вассальности, прибацал щит ( видно показываюший намерения защищать уникальную Византию до последнего украинца), забрал за это бабло и укатил обратно! ..... может это Моисей случайно в Констатинополь забрёл с друзьями?
    ... at me, for identity too.)))
    1. anderles66
      anderles66 27 October 2015 16: 03 New
      0
      Total. Oleg pressed himself to Constantinople to surrender. Nothing that far and hard! We are not afraid of difficulties. And so - why not drag your shield and for this not cut down the headstock?
  26. pamero
    pamero 25 October 2015 09: 30 New
    +1
    Who has more land, people, oil, forest, water, churches per capita, classical families engaged in and who prefer classic sexual relations, who prefer classical education for their children and who raise their children themselves, rather than hired twitter and facebook, will win in everything !!!!
  27. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 25 October 2015 10: 10 New
    -1
    ....Not everything went smoothly in Georgia: Putin lost several planes.

    at that time, Medvedev was.
    1. Oleko
      Oleko 25 October 2015 15: 58 New
      0
      Был и остаётся завод "Компонент", работающий на оборудовании 1967 года. Из-за его приборов были потеряны самолёты, а не из-за Медведева, который был президентом всего три месяца. Кстати, всю ночь Медведев через каждые полчаса запрашивап разведданные у министра обороны. Презик Грузии тогда, а ныне губер одесский, обманул ДАМа, сказав, что будут переговоры, а сам 888. А семидесятилетнему директору "Компонента" Кузнецову было плевать на то, что производит его завод. Главное построить ещё один дом для "внучатых племянников" в Анапе. За счёт предприятия, естественно. В 2009 было ликование - МО РФ , скрипя зубами, выделило всё же деньги на заказ приборов. Не было в РФ больше никого, кто бы мог сделать.
    2. Oleko
      Oleko 25 October 2015 15: 58 New
      +1
      Был и остаётся завод "Компонент", работающий на оборудовании 1967 года. Из-за его приборов были потеряны самолёты, а не из-за Медведева, который был президентом всего три месяца. Кстати, всю ночь Медведев через каждые полчаса запрашивап разведданные у министра обороны. Презик Грузии тогда, а ныне губер одесский, обманул ДАМа, сказав, что будут переговоры, а сам 888. А семидесятилетнему директору "Компонента" Кузнецову было плевать на то, что производит его завод. Главное построить ещё один дом для "внучатых племянников" в Анапе. За счёт предприятия, естественно. В 2009 было ликование - МО РФ , скрипя зубами, выделило всё же деньги на заказ приборов. Не было в РФ больше никого, кто бы мог сделать.
    3. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 26 October 2015 04: 50 New
      -1
      ... they don’t care ... Putin says in the training manual ..... and who else? bully
  28. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 25 October 2015 10: 22 New
    0
    VKS of the Russian Federation brought prayers for peace on wings - supreme mufti of Syria
    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 25 October 2015 12: 23 New
      0
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      VKS of the Russian Federation brought prayers for peace on wings - supreme mufti of Syria


      А ещё они принесли на крыльях карающий меч для "шайтанов".
  29. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 25 October 2015 10: 26 New
    0
    Quote: 222222
    The opinion of the regions is also an opinion and should be reckoned with with him .. Internal problems are growing by leaps and bounds .. even with the help of local authorities and 5 .6 .7 .8 columns.

    It is very important that everything is harmonious, in balance. These are 5, etc. the columns spoil and destroy everything from the inside, as if I’m worried about making the Motherland.
  30. Alekst
    Alekst 25 October 2015 10: 29 New
    +1
    here it was necessary to lay IT out ?! Well, maybe only as an example of illiteracy
  31. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 25 October 2015 10: 43 New
    0
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Quote: 222222
    The opinion of the regions is also an opinion and should be reckoned with with him .. Internal problems are growing by leaps and bounds .. even with the help of local authorities and 5 .6 .7 .8 columns.

    It is very important that everything is harmonious, in balance. These are 5, etc. the columns spoil and destroy everything from the inside, as if I’m worried about making the Motherland.

    Компьютер ведёт себя,как вражий агент.Последние слова"переживают о суд.Ь.бе Родины."
  32. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 25 October 2015 10: 50 New
    0
    Unfortunately, there is also the worst computer wrecking, and not just mine. It is constantly necessary to track and check. Once in a very good article, the computer introduced distortion.
  33. NordUral
    NordUral 25 October 2015 10: 59 New
    0
    Seven years have passed since then, and during this period the idea of ​​the Russian army has radically changed: you see these soldiers on TV, and they look like Americans.
    I would not consider it a praise to compare with the Americans.
  34. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 25 October 2015 11: 09 New
    0
    Russia is focusing. Now we would also have to raise the economy.
  35. X Y Z
    X Y Z 25 October 2015 11: 38 New
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    and over this period, the idea of ​​the Russian army has radically changed: you see these soldiers on TV, and they look like Americans.


    То есть как американцы в голливудских фильмах - бравые, брутальные и крошащие врага, как морковку. Но дело ведь в том, что за этой конфетной, рекламной оберткой - пустота. Цену всем этим "крутым ребятам" мы уже видели во Вьетнаме, да и последующих колониальных войнах. На родной земле они не воевали уже давно и это накладывает отпечаток на боевой дух нации. Можно долго разглагольствовать о несении демократии народам мира, о борьбе за свободу, но реальность ставит все на свои места. И вряд ли будет стоять насмерть военнослужащий, увидевший, за что он воюет.
  36. Maksus
    Maksus 25 October 2015 11: 42 New
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    I haven’t seen the flag of a soldier on my sleeve yet - I thought it was from some kind of movie.
  37. eternalmotor
    eternalmotor 25 October 2015 11: 46 New
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    Quote: Sharapov
    Оказывается, макаронники знают нашу историю лучше нас?. Это до какого кретинизма упасть нужно, чтобы накарябать, что Сталин напал на Японию для уравновешивания эффекта от американской атомной бомбардировки.... БРЕДЯТИНА.... А насчет "ОГРОМНЫХ транспортных самолетов доставлявших дивизии и вооружение для войны с Квантунской армией"?? СМЕХ. Не было у нас тогда транспортников таких. На паровозах армия ехала через всю страну..


    I agree. So I read, and did not understand: what am I reading at all ?! Absolute nonsense. What, damn it, transporters? What is the balancing effect? ​​..
  38. sw247
    sw247 25 October 2015 12: 25 New
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    Americans know how to act in cold blood.
    It is good that we learned this - everything is thought out, balanced, which causes pride in our country.
    And the Americans at this moment just lose their temper, get nervous. But they will pull themselves together and draw conclusions - they know how.
    In this situation, the main thing for us is not to lose pace (and head).
  39. Moonsund
    Moonsund 25 October 2015 12: 27 New
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    макаронная статья-хлам. В одном он прав: америгансы кретины, упрекает их за не профессионализм, а у самого одни клише-пугалки про " Униформа, корабли — торпедоносцы, командные пункты", да ахинея про ГИГАНТСКИЕ транспортники, перевозящие войска в 45м. Очередная хрень "Русские идут!".

    and yes ... they don’t go anywhere, they are already here, under your nose, just press the start button. Probably, not one Italian signora dropped a spoon with spaghetti from fright. All their passionarity came out long ago as steam.
    1. Are
      Are 25 October 2015 13: 28 New
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      We will not criticize the article --- the Italian writes how he knows how and what he will print .. laughing
      One thing, in my opinion, is good, that in Europe they recognize that it became scary soldier drinks
  40. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 25 October 2015 13: 25 New
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    Quote: 222222
    TV presenter from Novosibirsk told why the Russian Federation started a war in Syria!

    Everything, believed her. What for us war in Syria? Everyone home urgently! No money, everything was gone. we go to bed and die.
  41. Roust
    Roust 25 October 2015 14: 46 New
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    The mind cannot understand Russia, especially the West.
  42. Victorio
    Victorio 25 October 2015 14: 56 New
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    "Что будет, когда американцы оправятся от травмы?"
    ====
    will print green and swipe into new weapons
  43. Prisoner
    Prisoner 25 October 2015 16: 34 New
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    Какие только "эксперты" не печатаются в буржуйских газета,мама мия!
  44. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 25 October 2015 16: 46 New
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    Quote: Denis-Skiff
    Everything, believed her. What for us war in Syria? Everyone home urgently! No money, everything was gone. we go to bed and die.


    Well, why so categorically as one familiar cannibal spoke; Wait and see.
  45. classik46
    classik46 25 October 2015 17: 24 New
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    Американцев просто бесит то,что Путин "оседлал" и использовал их детище ИГИЛ,не вложив в него ни копейки.
    К тому же бомбит противников Асада под тем же соусом "борьбы с терроризмом"
  46. Mentat
    Mentat 25 October 2015 17: 59 New
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    Quote: Karabanov
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Филиал "Дождя" в Новосибирске?

    The painfully familiar logic of militant cheers. Opinion different from the template is perceived only as an enemy. And a cry is heard for the whole interent - keep the traitor!
    Well, are people so stubborn? In my opinion, this host, whoever she highlighted the very pressing problems of modern Russia.
    I am always amazed that many people believe that you need to love your homeland in Putin's way, in the Edrosian way, otherwise you are not a patriot at all, but an Amer’s enemy, undermining the foundations of statehood. The authorities believe that they have privatized the concepts of patriotism and are foolish.

    “Opinion other than stereotyped”?

    Here is a quote from this lovely lady with the look of a hard-working manipulator and the incredibly Russian surname London: "The protest moods begin to smell of revolution." And do not say, by whose efforts it was created, including the infusion of astronomical sums ($ 800 million for the presidential election), is this smelling of revolution, eh?

    Personally, I remember everything perfectly, all this paid abomination, and I'm not going to forget, unlike the likes of you:

    - a girl in front of the riot police with a look of a slut who broadcasts what Orthodox she is and what riot police are deceived, they are forced to beat innocent people, as they will be judged, and other nonsense for 20 minutes as a psychological treatment and an attempt to identify "flinch", then to lead individual "work"

    - an old man snooping around in the crowd and yelling at the camera several times: “What are you doing, why are you beating your own people ?!” - with the expectation that there will be hard acceleration, as in Greece, Turkey, Egypt, in the same USA, the use of rubber bullets, which in America do not shy away from shooting at a crowd with children in their arms

    - scum, cursing the children of riot police, their wives, trying to cause aggression and shooting it on camera

    - groups with posters in English for reporting on “grants”

    - An interview with Navalny, where he directly says that Russia needs a revolution like the Cairo revolution, i.e. need blood and war. Mr. * yes and ubl * dock - for me there is no doubt, as well as the moral and mental qualities of those who support him

    - Director of the NGO "Voice", which, smiling like a cat for sour cream, says that they pay very well

    - Chirikov and Co., going for briefing at the American Embassy

    - Bulk, screaming in the square "we can go to the Kremlin and take power"

    - employees of the American embassy watching the march from the gateway

    - and, as the apogee of all this funky vomit, call from Norway before the first white tape march from a man who roamed in Russia back in the early 2000s, making acquaintances here, and a message from this person that hundreds of thousands are on the streets, the government channels are lying, and the truth will be shown through cable channels

    Those. people were introduced even then, there was a plan for media support through alternative media if the central channels did not show these marches.

    This is a whole large-scale operation to overthrow the government and create a civil war, and you carry something about alternative points of view.


    So do not forget about the weather in the house, right. Especially when “opinions that differ from the template” suddenly remember the smell of revolution.

    Strengthening the state inside is impossible without strengthening from the outside. If orange evil spirits and black rot make their way outside, you need to clean the source of infection and apply a bandage, which is what we do in Ukraine and Syria.

    The time for antibiotics will come. For especially decomposed, there is also a scalpel. Well, or there is an ice ax.
  47. Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk 25 October 2015 18: 51 New
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    And I liked the opinion of the Italian.
    "мы оказались перед лицом России, которая вышла за границы старой империи, чего не происходило со времен Афганистана."
    ....
    They were, heh, in the face. Of Russia.
    .
    See, gentlemen, how not to face the Ass of Russia.
    Then too. EVERYTHING, for sure - ass - will come.
    .
    How, I said everything.
    .
    And Chingachgook begins his story .... God forbid, God ....
  48. demandy1
    demandy1 25 October 2015 19: 26 New
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    I watched a video with a chick unsatisfied, is there anyone from Novosibirsk? Does it even live there? or again casting from behind a hillock? I’m from the Kuban, we have nowhere to put the grub. No, of course the prices are creeping, but it depends entirely on the dollar rate
  49. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 25 October 2015 19: 28 New
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    " Но сегодня речь не идет, слава Богу, о военном столкновении сверхдержав, а лишь о том, чтобы понять, что происходит — и не допустить ошибки."
    It’s definitely not time to make mistakes - it’s time to correct them! Namely, to dissolve NATO, remove its military bases from all NATO countries, liquidate missile defense allegedly against Iranian missiles, and sit down at the negotiating table with Russia on ensuring peace on the basis of international law. This SGA will be more profitable than resisting us and trying to shower with our BSU! America, it’s time to take on the mind, not the gun - the era of America’s development has long passed, it would be time to turn into a civilized man, and not a savage with a Colt! hi
  50. Sedoy_greek
    Sedoy_greek 25 October 2015 19: 41 New
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    I don’t want to go into discussions - what is happening well in Syria or bad - but when the USSR was there - the mattresses were afraid to sneeze again and did the right thing !!! And the air in the world without the carriers of democracy was cleaner !!!