Russians are too strong ("Il Giornale", Italy)

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America is in shock

The United States is shocked by the fact that they saw the unforeseen military power of the Russians in Syria. It is not only about the latest and very accurate weapons, but also about the style, the speed of the military operation and even the Kremlin’s media accompaniment, openly challenging the Americans both in defining the bombing targets and the targets that need to be preserved from defeat.

Washington was suspended from the operation, and it seems he received an answer: now we are working on it and let you know the result. Like it or not, this exchange of cues produced the necessary effect. A detail to clarify the situation: the Russians brought barracks for thousands of soldiers to Syria and organized evening performances with the participation of dancers, comedians and variety shows, showed theatrical performances.

The 15 of the New York Times printed a very well-documented text about the traumatic effect that Putin’s war in Syria produces in America. Everybody was injured, and this can only be compared with one event: the launch of the first artificial satellite of the Earth 4 on October 1957. Then America discovered that she was mistaken in everything: in school education, in military training, university courses, capital investments ... She exposed herself to this auto-da-fé, which subsequently gave results and allowed the first man to land on the moon.

Now we are not talking about the flight to the moon, but about making decisions, both diplomatic and reconnaissance, which would be at the level of a new unknown phenomenon, and this is not a metal ball 58 centimeters in earth orbit, but a military machine, never before seen in action with all its new weapons, which Vladimir Putin was able to carefully launch even in a period of devastating crisis of falling oil prices.

The military and operational team in the White House and the Pentagon survived difficult clocks, the result of which was the following news: Obama radically changed course and announced that he was not even thinking about withdrawing troops from Afghanistan. Starship soldiers will remain in the region to counterbalance Russian forces in the theater of operations.

The troops of Moscow existed in American and European perception until now under the sign of the Soviet cliche: millions of soldiers in a well-worn uniform march, accompanied by a roar and smell armory lubricants of millions tons of iron. Now, after the intervention in Syria, we are faced with Russia, which has gone beyond the borders of the old empire, which has not happened since the time of Afghanistan.

Surprise with deployment and unexpectedly fast planning led leaders and analysts to conclude that the military operation in Syria had been in preparation for months.

In reality, the Russian armed forces did not conduct unexpected and impressive actions for the first time: when Stalin decided to expel the Japanese army from Manchuria in 1945 in order to balance the effect of the American atomic bombing, he relied on the excellent troops that had previously fought in Europe, and industrial arms production, deployed at that time to a maximum. Huge transport aircraft delivered divisions and weapons to battlefields as part of an operation on the ground and in the air of unprecedented proportions. Of the eight hundred thousandth Japanese army there was not a trace. Today the situation is, of course, different. However, American analysts have noted clear progress compared to Russian intervention in Georgia in 2008, not to mention the secret war in Ukraine. Not everything went smoothly in Georgia: Putin lost several planes, and the infantry was not up to par. Seven years have passed since then, and during this period the idea of ​​the Russian army has radically changed: you see these soldiers on TV, and they look like Americans. They show the shooting of their bombardments and treat the Americans like nerds (“They have cockroaches in their heads,” Putin said). Uniforms, torpedo ships, command posts, everything looks as if at an exhibition, and fights accordingly.

What will happen when Americans recover from injury? The Pentagon is accused of having missed data on changes. The CIA, of course, also gets it, although American intelligence has long been sounding the alarm, especially in Central Europe. Experience stories says that the United States is capable of correcting its reset, which was done whenever it was necessary to confront the numerically superior powers on the battlefield (as was once Germany and Japan). But today we are not talking, thank God, about the military clash of superpowers, but only about understanding what is happening - and not making mistakes.
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  1. +133
    25 October 2015 06: 56
    I agree, Serge!
    1. +198
      25 October 2015 07: 24
      It turns out that the pasta knows our history better than we do ?. This is to what cretinism you need to fall in order to scribble that Stalin attacked Japan to counterbalance the effect of the American atomic bombing .... BREDYATINA .... And what about "HUGE transport aircraft delivering divisions and weapons for the war with the Kwantung Army" ?? LAUGHTER. We did not have such transport workers then. The army was traveling on steam locomotives across the country ..
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      2. +27
        25 October 2015 08: 37
        Ignorance is wild, I agree. For this, and for the penultimate sentence, the article is minus.
        1. +30
          25 October 2015 09: 29
          Everyone was injured, and this can only be compared with one event: the launch of the first artificial Earth satellite on October 4, 1957.
          What kind of Americans are gentle, a little panicky and fainting. You see the trauma ... psychoanalysts work ... wink
          1. +1
            25 October 2015 19: 26
            Quote: BilliBoms09
            Everyone was injured, and this can only be compared with one event: the launch of the first artificial Earth satellite on October 4, 1957.
            What kind of Americans are gentle, a little panicky and fainting. You see the trauma ... psychoanalysts work ... wink

            so mattresses consider themselves exceptional !!! laughing
          2. 0
            27 October 2015 20: 46
            they only work for them) do not want to talk about it?
        2. +3
          25 October 2015 16: 27
          Quote: JACTUS RECTUS
          Ignorance is wild, I agree. For this, and for the penultimate sentence, the article is minus.

          Quote from the text: "Not everything went smoothly in Georgia: Putin lost several planes, the infantry was also not at their best. Seven years have passed since then, and during this period the idea of ​​the Russian army has radically changed: you see these soldiers on TV, and they look like Americans. They show footage of their bombing raids. "

          It’s one thing to bomb terror and banana republics, filming this with drones and quite another, to fight against a trained regular army, even if not the most powerful one, there will inevitably be losses.
          1. +2
            26 October 2015 21: 13
            and we lost the planes thanks to the Ukrainian Mazepa, who handed over the air defense missiles to the Georgians, and they were identified according to the "friend or foe" system as ours, after that we had to spend billions of rubles not reworking the scheme
            1. +1
              27 October 2015 17: 01
              So these freaks pressed the "START" button ....
          2. +1
            27 October 2015 14: 41
            Nevertheless, the level of training was completely different. I am silent about the level of management and communication. What about aviation? 1-3 aircraft from Tula? So the author is right in this.
          3. 0
            27 October 2015 21: 30
            in 2008 stupidly took in quantity and in a snap, there was no current command, no plan, no equipment.
            A friend participated in that operation, told that the first losses were before meeting with the Georgians.
            Matalygi came supposedly new. Really junk painted with new paint. Mountain brakes do not work. Plus inexperience of drivers. As a result, on the march, she smiled down one more time.
      3. +28
        25 October 2015 09: 01
        He meant that during the war with Japan, we had more than 20 landings landed. And that these landings gave a very good result. And for the Italian and Li-2, a huge transporter.
        1. +1
          27 October 2015 15: 31
          I agree. Once in school, in the classroom on the history of military art, they analyzed in detail the operation against the Kwantung Army. Taking into account the landings and other components, including the scale, it was a military "operation of the future" in the teacher's opinion and I agree with him.
      4. +25
        25 October 2015 09: 05
        Quote: Sharapov
        And what about the "HUGE transport planes that delivered divisions and weapons for the war with the Kwantung Army" ??
        All this, of course, has no correspondence with reality, the armies were transferred with the help of millions of giant airships, with hundreds of thousands of parachutist bears wassat
      5. +10
        25 October 2015 09: 26
        Quote: Sharapov
        It is to what cretinism it is necessary to fall

        Until this one -
        The experience of history says that the United States is able to adjust its reset, which was done whenever it was necessary to confront the numerically superior powers on the battlefields (as once Germany and Japan). But today we are not talking, thank God, about a military clash of superpowers
        1. +30
          25 October 2015 17: 00
          The experience of history says that the United States is able to adjust its reset, which was done whenever it was necessary to confront the numerically superior powers on the battlefields (as once Germany and Japan). But today we are not talking, thank God, about a military clash of superpowers


          "From the point of view of the art of diplomacy, Putin is lucky. It is rare for a world leader to be able to use the truth as a weapon. The Anglo-Saxon world is so entangled in its own lies that nothing but the truth is required to effectively publicly discredit. The Russian leader is in the position of which he can allow himself the luxury of telling the truth. ”It is simply impossible to spoil relations with the insane part of the American establishment even more, which means that one can publicly talk about how the US supports terrorists, bullying European vassals and lying about the European missile defense system. - as it were, the Russian president says, transparently hinting that the crazy "Uncle Sam" has already lost his crown. "
          1. +1
            26 October 2015 00: 35
            A rare world leader has the opportunity to use the truth as a weapon.


            Surprisingly, you outlined the main life position of our President.
          2. 0
            27 October 2015 15: 38
            I agree to all 100% and even more. the main problem of the present world - and many would be happy to go through life with truth, but this is usually mortally dangerous - either the virus of revolution can be caught or a bullet (adjusted for the scale of states) can fly into my head. Russia is now an exception in the sense that it is not afraid and, I hope, reasonably, of this danger. I believe that this is precisely the strength of Putin. Several times I read Western (and even Arabic) comments on various topics related to Russia (where they are not moderated and cut). Ordinary people feel very well where the truth is. Here, too, there is one exception, as I see it - Ukraine.
          3. +2
            27 October 2015 19: 02
            I think so even shorter can say so about the Anglo-Saxons
        2. 0
          27 October 2015 20: 48
          I agree stupidity goes off scale
      6. +6
        25 October 2015 10: 00
        Quote: Sharapov
        do pasta know our history better than us ?. It is to what cretinism it is necessary to fall to scribble

        That's right!
        And there are "more than a fig" such journalists in gayrope.
        Sometimes, looking at them, at different Psakas, one wonders: did they even study at their own college?
        1. +1
          26 October 2015 04: 31
          Well, what they were taught, that is what they learned. For example, the fact that the US army opposed the numerically superior powers on the battlefield! This is when our army saved them from destruction, or what? Or when the Germans in the west surrendered to them, if only not to get ours? Warriors ...
      7. +21
        25 October 2015 10: 27
        In reality, the Russian armed forces did not conduct unexpected and impressive actions for the first time: when Stalin decided to expel the Japanese army from Manchuria in 1945 in order to balance the effect of the American atomic bombing, he relied on the excellent troops that had previously fought in Europe, and industrial arms production, deployed at that time to a maximum.

        Dear colleagues, I believe that you are emphasizing the wrong moment of the article. I believe this is my personal opinion, which I, God forbid, do not impose on anyone, the macaroni journalist compares the "green men" and their operations with the victorious Red Army of 1945, which on land had no equal in the world at that time. The Italian and V.I. Stalin. No analogies being directed? wassat It is clear that all these fabrications reflect the psychology of a frightened European man in the street. But how symptomatic!
        I have the honor. hi
        1. 0
          27 October 2015 20: 50
          it’s time for them to dunk ***
      8. +7
        25 October 2015 11: 37
        Quote: Sharapov
        It turns out that pasta knows our history better than us ?. It’s what kind of cretinism you need to fall to scribble that Stalin attacked Japan to balance the effect of the American atomic bombing .... BRYEDIN ...

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        The article is purely propaganda, no knowledge of history is required here ... If you write that "at the request of the allies, Stalin carried out a ground operation, etc.", then the tolerant editorial staff simply will not miss the article ... Written in a biting manner, to immediately muck Western reader ... Normal article, they better not write ... The message of the article "grab your bags, the station departs", sorry "the Russians are already here and they are ready to dictate to the world" ...
        1. +3
          25 October 2015 13: 58
          I also think that the article is quite normal. An Italian journalist writes about the American worldview. It is not news to anyone what kind of weapon Russia possesses. 2013 September. Ashton Carter speaks of the "Putin express", referring to the work of the Air Force across the Caspian, Iran, Iraq. Carter and Dempsey in the 13th bent Obamka with cancer, because what kind of beast is "Onyx", Tu-22M3A1, S-350, "Severodvinsk" and others like that, even MiG-29M2, which drove 8 F-16 shawarma, where it did not drive calves Makar, they knew. The stake on insurgents in Syria was made precisely because attempts to operate by aviation and the navy would have led to an unacceptable level of losses, not only in technology, but also in l / s.
          This has become news for the financial establishment, or for the journalist. For the US military, this is not news.
          And they overslept or missed the Syrian operation in the same way as they slept through the "Nyash-myash" operation earlier. Superiority in electronic warfare, means of destruction and strategic planning with ensuring secrecy is an inescapable headache for Penti and the CIA, and an old one, but for business people and journalist it is a revelation. Comparable to Sputnik is also true.
      9. +1
        25 October 2015 13: 33
        Quote: Sharapov
        It turns out that the pasta knows our history better than we do ?. This is to what cretinism you need to fall in order to scribble that Stalin attacked Japan to counterbalance the effect of the American atomic bombing .... BREDYATINA .... And what about "HUGE transport aircraft delivering divisions and weapons for the war with the Kwantung Army" ?? LAUGHTER. We did not have such transport workers then. The army was traveling on steam locomotives across the country ..


        They are generally strange there in the west. They still think that in the winter bears roam around Moscow ... And we drink vodka directly from the samovar. Unhappy ... What do you take from them. Who came and lived in Russia, well, except for professional intelligence, he does not want to leave ....
        1. +1
          25 October 2015 14: 56
          Why think. In childhood, they drove a head that we have bears on the street. So they believe that we drink vodka from a samovar.
        2. +12
          25 October 2015 17: 21
          Quote: meriem1
          They are generally strange there in the west. They still think that in the winter bears roam around Moscow ... And we drink vodka directly from the samovar. Unhappy ...

          True meriem1.Me also jars. Every cultured person will pour vodka in a saucer and will drink it in sugar. And first we pour the bear. You are polite ...
      10. +2
        25 October 2015 14: 53
        The Boulogne system in action. All under one comb are taught. And they want to drive us there. To not think ...
        1. +1
          27 October 2015 14: 46
          Already driven.
      11. 0
        25 October 2015 21: 00
        Quote: Sharapov
        It turns out that the pasta knows our history better than we do ?. This is to what cretinism you need to fall in order to scribble that Stalin attacked Japan to counterbalance the effect of the American atomic bombing .... BREDYATINA .... And what about "HUGE transport aircraft delivering divisions and weapons for the war with the Kwantung Army" ?? LAUGHTER. We did not have such transport workers then. The army was traveling on steam locomotives across the country ..

        yes the Arctic fox is northern.
        And about the second World War. They unleashed it with the great help of the Nuglosak people, and there they respected the interests of the exclusively naglosak people. We were in a great depression, went enriched at times, and Glavnyuk shit-democrat got hold of the territories, and everything else
      12. +4
        25 October 2015 22: 40
        What do you want, Volodenka? My Italian colleague working with fixed formwork (I bought from him) told me back in 2004 that the American! Naval ones played the main role in the victory near Moscow! infantrymen who are from Siberia! lend-lease, Karl! delivered by caring Americans. If not for them, kirdyk would have been Stalin .. Well, I was neighing then ... I had to give him the 12th volume of "History of the Second World War". Now I regret, I think that he did not even look into it, in order to avoid cognitive dissonance.
        1. +2
          27 October 2015 19: 05
          well, at least I didn’t say that the Germans were struggling to look at the Red Square and the evil Russians misunderstood them and gave them a trend
      13. 0
        26 October 2015 02: 17
        This is half the trouble, I liked it better: "The experience of history says that the United States is able to correct its reset, which was done whenever it was necessary to resist numerically superior powers on the battlefields (like Germany and Japan once did)." - oh how !!!! What kind of Americans are they "POWERFUL" belay all "won" laughing
        After that, in a fit I wanted to write a lot, but moderators think 90% will be cut out.
      14. 0
        27 October 2015 13: 31
        By steam locomotives ...

        ***
        That May thundered with fireworks ...
        Blooming bird cherry crazy ...
        And someone rushed to the East -
        Alas, not knowing their fate ...
      15. 0
        27 October 2015 15: 18
        You are certainly right, but only partially. You yourself, too, do not know the story very well. At least the military. We did indeed use transport aircraft for the war with Japan in a non-standard scenario and on a non-standard scale. The fact is that our tank formations were moving forward so quickly that it was precisely transport aircraft that had to bring them fuel and ammunition. Apparently this is what the author had in mind. Although, about "huge" planes sounds really funny.
      16. 0
        27 October 2015 20: 45
        Well, what do you want, they are victims of American propaganda)
      17. 0
        28 October 2015 12: 51
        and they didn’t go anywhere. The Far Eastern group soaked the Japanese. There they only threw the equipment.
    2. +33
      25 October 2015 07: 28
      Syria has yet to win, and this is an extremely difficult task. The hitch caused by aerial bombardment, the terrorists will pass, they will begin to adapt. The conquest of territories is already very slow, and may even stop altogether. Therefore, the victorious report that we are the best is still premature. The war has just begun.
      I would not be surprised if the ground forces of the Russian Federation are still involved in ground operations in some local areas.
      1. +16
        25 October 2015 08: 59
        Quote: aktanir
        Therefore, the victorious report that we are the best is still premature.

        I disagree, Caliber shots, virtuoso bombardments performed by the VKS orchestra, in a beautiful informational orangeries, have already brought the fruits of the first victories, at least in the heads of people, both foreign and, more importantly, our St. Thomas unbelievers and all the other all-encompassers. Once-Crimea is an accident for critics, the second Donbass-Lugansk is suggestive for stubborn skeptics, the third time Syria is armor-piercing into die-hard fools ...
        Z.Y. Behind these events lies more than seeing each other at first glance, for some it is a discovery, but for some it is already routine ...
      2. +5
        25 October 2015 11: 04
        Yes, you should not flatter yourself. Moreover, our "partners2 are also coming out of shock. And these guys should not be underestimated. They themselves do not like to fight, and they do not really know how (with an equal opponent), but they learned to nudge and arm others very well. So there are fewer words, and more accurate bombings, and how many take-offs - so many landings on your takeoff.
      3. +1
        25 October 2015 16: 37
        Quote: aktanir
        I would not be surprised if the ground forces of the Russian Federation are still involved in ground operations in some local areas.

        not necessarily ... Ukrainians in Donbass have calmed down, which means that there are a lot of "soldiers of fortune" left there, who will not be able to live without war, all the more so if it will not be paid very badly. The main thing for Assad is to recapture from the Basmachi, for a start, a couple of towers so that the grandmothers flow in a thin stream to pay for the mercenaries. Well, and the Russian Federation should throw the art, tanks, and ammunition, then the offensive will begin to stir very even ...
      4. 0
        27 October 2015 14: 49
        Regarding Syria, I still do not understand whether financial flows will overlap or not. True, without the USA this is unrealistic. So ......
    3. -6
      25 October 2015 09: 48
      TV presenter from Novosibirsk told why the Russian Federation started a war in Syria!
      1. +12
        25 October 2015 09: 52
        The opinion of the regions is also an opinion and should be reckoned with with him .. Internal problems are growing by leaps and bounds .. even with the help of local authorities and 5 .6 .7 .8 columns.
        1. 0
          26 October 2015 04: 44
          ..... Cho I didn’t notice that I live .... in the center of Moscow! I never whined and am not going to start! smile
        2. +1
          26 October 2015 13: 45
          And about the opinion of the regions already passed infa, the Yankees will now "Maidan" will be in the regions, since the "swamp" does not work.
      2. +17
        25 October 2015 10: 54
        Branch of "Dozhd" in Novosibirsk? Everything seems to be right, he just lies a little - like "No money, soon there will be nothing to eat." "Import substitution causes only laughter" and so on. Both theses are outright lies. But along with the rest - it rolls. Record harvests in Russia, an active increase in the production of basic products - the leading one - does not notice. It's an editor, I guess. And about import substitution - I know it not by hearsay - it is actively being promoted. And in the defense industry, and not only. Yes, something here and there. They steal. But less than before, and not so impudently. They planted. The large plant is planted. Roads. They are building. Money - they started counting better. Pensions for deputies are pure populism. By the way, a typical sign of any liberal stuffing. If you want to earn a lot - start your own business - and earn. And if you do not want sleepless nights, nervous overload and work for 12 hours seven days a week, go to an employee. But then don't complain.
        1. +10
          25 October 2015 11: 05
          Quote: 222222
          TV presenter from Novosibirsk told why the Russian Federation started a war in Syria!

          A simple Russian woman from the outback, Maria London ...laughing The wife of Yakov London is the head of the Novosibirsk State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company.
          1. +2
            25 October 2015 14: 45
            Sid.74 (4) RU Today, 11: 05 ↑
            A simple Russian woman from the hinterland, Maria London ... laughing The wife of Jacob London, the head of the Novosibirsk State TV and Radio Company.
            laughing laughing laughing
          2. +5
            25 October 2015 18: 40
            Quote: Sid.74
            A simple Russian woman from the hinterland, Maria London ... laughing The wife of Jacob London, the head of the Novosibirsk State TV and Radio Company.

            Have they there for an hour Claudia Washington wasn’t lying anywhere or Dunya Tel Aviv?
            1. 0
              26 October 2015 04: 46
              .... yes they have a bunch of this "dobra" .... for candy wrappers ... cho you want. And the country in the ZPO ..... easily. It's in the country of fools ... you can pick it up .... wink
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        2. +11
          25 October 2015 11: 25
          ask people working in retail, retail, and wholesale. everywhere complete w ... well.
          the crisis is obvious, people really have no money. and apparently still will not be long.
          less or more they steal it; how do you know how to measure it? is there any statistics?
          corruption was, is and will be.
          here, for example, in the Murmansk region, it has become quite difficult to take garbage from someone, it is fraught with federal networks, the little thing has no money. so stupidly the slot machine halls all over the region opened up, there was plenty of good in the warehouses of material evidence. I want to eat something.
          but all such patriots, all for Putin as one. pictures of the leader on the wall above the work chair.
          all this servile state is rotten, but they are the support of the regime. what support is this and the mode.
          1. +1
            25 October 2015 14: 16
            1000% SOLIDAR!
            1. 0
              25 October 2015 18: 41
              Quote: kepmor
              1000% SOLIDAR!

              Shaw, again? (with)
          2. +4
            26 October 2015 07: 55
            And you wanted to make a joke? So after the Maidan, not only rubles becomes less, but also the people. You, not very smart, will also affect you.
          3. +2
            26 October 2015 13: 02
            Want to eat, have probably already fainted from malnutrition? Maybe they want not to eat, but eat three throats?
          4. 0
            26 October 2015 16: 12
            traveler
            ask people working in commerce


            .... I have long said .... trade is a temporary matter .... And what are the benefits of trade ???? time bought and sold ..... ENDS! bully
            1. +1
              26 October 2015 23: 19
              retail trade is the main indicator of economic activity and well-being of the population.
              people buy food, clothing, household appliances, stationery, etc., rather than shells and cruise missiles.
        3. +6
          25 October 2015 11: 52
          If you want to earn a lot - open your own business - and earn.
          Have you tried it yourself?
        4. +3
          25 October 2015 14: 40
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Branch of "Dozhd" in Novosibirsk?

          The painfully familiar logic of militant cheers. Opinion different from the template is perceived only as an enemy. And a cry is heard for the whole interent - keep the traitor!
          Well, are people so stubborn? In my opinion, this host, whoever she highlighted the very pressing problems of modern Russia.
          I am always amazed that many people believe that you need to love your homeland in Putin's way, in the Edrosian way, otherwise you are not a patriot at all, but an Amer’s enemy, undermining the foundations of statehood. The authorities believe that they have privatized the concepts of patriotism and are foolish.
          1. +4
            25 October 2015 14: 57
            Karabanov (5) SU Today, 14:40 ↑
            Painfully familiar logic of militant jingoistic patriots. .. "
            And they should not fall to the level of problems of ordinary people .. wink
            For those who wish .. type in the search engine the simple phrase "video condition of houses as of 27.09.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX in the Shira settlement of the Republic of Khakassia" .. there are a lot of videos about the lawlessness of developers ... And Khakassia (like the Novosibirsk region) is in the list of six regions under scrutiny the attention of Americans and local liberals ..
            1. +1
              27 October 2015 15: 15
              Ordinary people build their own houses, work and earn money on their conscience, take loans according to their abilities, and not to hotel guests, and having bought (privatized for cheap) apartments take care of the repair of houses and porches and the cleanliness of their yards. But they bring their housing to ruin, do not pay for communal services for years, and only very very UNPLEASANT people demand handouts from the state. And they put sticks to the state, as soon as at least a little anti-American course is manifested, also the same UNPLEASANT people. One can see a lot of not ordinary people, but cunning minnows accumulated in Novosibirsk. All three letters ZICH urgently build more SU-34, as in the best Soviet years!
          2. +8
            25 October 2015 15: 11
            This is exactly how it is perceived, because those who move this opinion themselves are soiled up to their ears. And the rejection of a different opinion is not caused by the opinion itself, but who is driving this opinion! Opposition leaders are themselves seen in corruption and dirty deeds. Kasparov's story happened just the other day. They also told a lot about Nemtsov. And then there is Ponomorev, a deputy who fled abroad and lives there on incomprehensible income and other not very "pure" individuals. The people see and remember all this. And do not think that you do not understand anything. So don't teach us how to live, better help us financially!)

            And power, no matter how bad it is, has always been supported by the population at all times in the difficult year. It’s just not customary to change horses at the crossing. Now, when everything calms down, settles down, then you can think about what to do with this power. And now it’s such a year. And, I think, now only our Government and even less the President will accuse a few of the problems. We didn’t start a fight, but since we got involved we’ll fight. And it's not about the patterns. The Russian people with more than a thousand-year official history themselves can get out of the existing problems. And it will come out. Once again blame and our problems are not worth it. Everyone already sees them.

            The popularity of the President does not rest on the fact that he is cool, but on the fact that he makes the maximum out of what is possible so that the state remains a state and not a bunch of specific principalities. And the increased capabilities of the Russian Army is one of the indicators. The economy is not only decisions of the Party and the government, it is also the responsibility of business. If the Business is busy, investing seriously in something more technological than trade and transfer of resources, then no Government will help.
            1. +13
              25 October 2015 15: 50
              Do you seriously think that such comrades are sleeping and seeing as much benefit as possible to bring to their native country?
              These compradors have very far from patriotic thoughts ...
              1. +1
                27 October 2015 15: 21
                Come on, at least at this cosmic scale, salaries are not the best, but big executives of large companies, and not a lot of them. It’s more annoying when the director of a music school from Mukhosk, where 30 people study, with the most honest look, gets more than 100 thousand. And there are many, very many. The entire pay system is skewed.
          3. +1
            26 October 2015 13: 59
            Let it highlight, but why the heck interfere with geopolitics and domestic politics? in her very first sentences. Yes, in the country ... but why? Is it because the country, to the surprise of the West, began to rise from its knees, straighten out, its voice appeared, remembered about interests on the world stage? And sanctions and all kinds of obstacles came to us precisely in order to destabilize the situation in the country, which was not the best, so that people could starve as much as possible (who got the loans there? But then the prices went up! Thanks to international democracy, but for world peace , except for the Russian Federation), such slut began to riot to open his mouth, FURTHERING popular discontent, just then and at that moment when everything around us is real, Russia is not at all simple. That would be the rubble about cutlets separately, about flies separately, this wife to whom.
          4. 0
            27 October 2015 15: 08
            The logic of the representatives of the democratic and, accordingly, super-wise, rooting for Russia stratum is more shameful. In contrast to the 90s, now everyone has already learned through bitter experience - put such wise men to manage not just a country, but at least write a town and lose everything - no honor, no conscience, no knowledge and skills. ANYTHING, on the contrary, everything goes into minus, is stolen and destroyed, but it’s beautiful to criticize it - you won’t take it away!
        5. +7
          25 October 2015 15: 53
          You want to say that everything is fine with us! Both the leaky budget and the 2016 East have been turned into a Russian garbage dump: money is being stolen by billions, the quality of work is lower than the baseboard, and what the hell have increased for pensioners, and inflation is 0,0000%, and medicine in .ope and education, and agriculture on a huge height !? She said everything correctly. In Moscow, they do not have time to take on new metro stations and interchanges and parking lots, and in the outback suck! Federal funding for the poor and slaves !!! And so all is well, beautiful marquise!
          1. +6
            25 October 2015 16: 31
            Residents of capitals and large cities are strongly advised to sometimes go down to earth. And to travel to broaden horizons not in well-fed Europe and Turkey, but in the Russian province. See, so to speak, on the spot all the "power", but in fact the weakness of the Russian state. And in what, sorry, shit the hinterland is, without work, without salaries, without normal housing and communal services, medicine ... And all this with the total theft of local bureaucrats.
            And then we have a beautiful picture on TV, blurring and hushing up existing problems. And then it’s not customary to scold the snickering authorities.
            You can easily get rid of a patriot, you just have to shout - Russia, go ahead! Putin well done! And all of you are not a * bic patriot.
            1. +1
              26 October 2015 00: 02
              Quote: Karabanov
              out of employment

              Work shaft, for those who are willing to work, not enough warm places for those who are more equal than others.
              1. +4
                26 October 2015 02: 15
                For a penny of work shaft, for money there is no work.
            2. +1
              26 October 2015 13: 37
              Each district center-Krasnogorsk and Kushchevka in one bottle. And this is not all the characters climbed out. And for 250 km from the millionaire, deserting already begins.
        6. +1
          25 October 2015 15: 57
          And try to open your own business at 14% per annum! No sleepless nights will be enough, and you will overload in your own leaky underpants!
          1. +3
            25 October 2015 19: 10
            Who wants to open his own business will open.
        7. 0
          26 October 2015 23: 15
          Aunt with a speaking last name - London.
      3. +7
        25 October 2015 11: 14
        Not everything can be agreed, but minus the point. Facts are stubborn things. Help in Syria is necessary and necessary. But you also need to think about affairs in your own country. Corrupt bureaucrat will gobble up the country. And the Georgadze case in Krasnogorsk - the first bell of many coming ones - highlights the corruption of the link between power and business in Russia.
        It’s time to determine whether they are fastened to a brace or return to normal life, where the national treasure will again become truly national, and not a lying enticing story in GAZPROM advertising. TIME!
        1. +1
          25 October 2015 14: 46
          I agree about GAAZPROM. "+"
        2. +6
          25 October 2015 15: 21
          Facts facts ... And you do not give bribes to the cops, not officials. Break the wall in accordance with the law. Laws for whom are written? All the rights and obligations of all officials and citizens are registered there, all procedures for passing initiatives and making decisions in the authorities are written there. None of us want to read them and use them. they all hope for bribes. Everyone needs everything at once. And quickly only through bribes.
          The doctor refused to accept the patient? To court at him or the hospital. Canetel? yes, still what. but in another way it will not work. Or pay the doctor for everything. Didn’t arrive during the ambulance? In court on her or the state because of which the city lacks ambulances. Not? Then pay bribes! What are you whining for? Until we ourselves begin to fight bribery, this will never stop.
          If everyone (and this is utopia) will have a relationship with the state apparatus by law, then they will stop taking bribes. because no one will give it, and if they extort it, they will receive a lawsuit in court. But this is not possible) There will always be those who will be ready to pay a bit, but will go like clockwork. or just out of cowardice before the official will bring and do as he says!
          1. 0
            26 October 2015 13: 52
            I agree about the cops, but it won't work with officials. If you want to supply the state, pay officials. There are no options. Even if the owner of the company is MO, you won't just deliver anything to them (MO). They all do not care about the courts, it is not they who pay, but the state. It is possible to receive compensation by ships, but not to improve the "state service".
      4. -4
        25 October 2015 11: 31
        ..... daughters of officers ... already in Novosibirsk ?????
        1. +1
          25 October 2015 23: 20
          Do not distort. Behind her slight distortion about starving the country, she was telling the truth.
          1. +1
            26 October 2015 04: 40
            NordUral
            about starving the country


            .... are you crazy? what hunger? ... cars in the courtyards .... it's impossible to get through .... the shops .... are full! .... pensions ... are given out! Are they starving from lack of .... Parmesan and Roquefort? That again "whistling" snot to hang up on the monitor? Yes, at least ... hang yourself ... drinks
      5. +1
        25 October 2015 12: 42
        And what is courage? We have freedom of speech which is not in more than one country! Such brave men are a dime a dozen! Yes, and the name has and the name of the program in Aglitsky speaks for itself, a typical libroid person!
        1. +2
          25 October 2015 14: 47
          But besides the transition to personality there are no arguments?
          1. +3
            25 October 2015 15: 59
            Quote: Oper6300
            But besides the transition to personality there are no arguments?

            Arguments There!
            1. 0
              26 October 2015 06: 17
              ... narrow-minded, stupid "ukrosvistomye" with the last bit of strength you are trying to do what you did with Ukraine ..... nothing teaches you: not history, not your ... experience. For the sake of cookies and candy wrappers they destroyed their own country .... Why? why do you need land? Why do you need factories? ... stunned and dull ... you can only ... destroy! And why are you to us ?????????? hi
      6. +3
        25 October 2015 13: 13
        Oooh! You've got Aido-Budenovites out there tearing up in earnest. How much foam from the mouth, how the veins are stretched in the tinted "Siberian". Enemies inland are madly beaten by an epileptic. How they want a revolution, civil war, devastation and destruction of all who are not with them. Rachel must be given Ukrainian citizenship.
        1. 0
          26 October 2015 04: 48
          .... profit ... hotts .... and in the ruin ... nichrome ... net ... that’s laughing
      7. +3
        25 October 2015 14: 32
        Brave And what is the courage? Blame or ridicule the distant Moscow authorities from distant Novosibirsk for this courage?
        We also have such "heroes" on local TV as part of the "Echo of Moscow" program. 2-3 people sit and make fun of them by the initiatives of the President, the State Duma, etc., knowing that except for the locals, no one will see or hear this. They do not talk about local authorities at all because they are fraught with closure or cancellation of funding)
        They are heroes only in certain situations when it is known that there will be no consequences)
      8. 0
        26 October 2015 13: 45
        Slut dyed with (I heard correctly? With the surname London?).
        Where is our article in the Criminal Code about treason and undermining of power?
      9. 0
        26 October 2015 21: 06
        It would not hurt to carry out an equally effective and rapid operation REAL anti-corruption within the country, as the operation of the aerospace forces in Syria
      10. -1
        26 October 2015 21: 20
        before you minus the whole movie, you’re right about what’s going on with pensions, work, embezzlement, and the war in Syria in its plot remains in the background, people think
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      12. 0
        27 October 2015 15: 01
        Nice city of Novosibirsk. Su-24 produced for a long time, now the Su-34. Many other very useful things and discoveries thanks to the working people. But there is such a wretched home there that is always against no matter who is in power if it does not meet American interests. Typical horn of the 5th column.
    4. +6
      25 October 2015 10: 55
      Armored Optimist (4) RU Today, 06:56 AM
      I agree, Seryoga! "" "" "" "" "" "" &
      quot; "

      To l and with with to and to and !!
    5. 0
      25 October 2015 12: 57
      In short - "Sit down, monkey, look and don't touch anything with your hands!" laughing
      1. 0
        26 October 2015 01: 04
        This is a quote from a very famous joke about space.
    6. +2
      25 October 2015 13: 00
      Do not slide into HS
    7. +2
      25 October 2015 15: 02
      Strength is always in force. And in nothing else. In Ancient Films they said: "power is where the truth is." Indeed, they are always there. But not because power comes where the truth is. It really creeps in where the power is. When people try to understand where the truth is, they really quietly wonder where the power is now. And when the force leaves, everyone unanimously notes - the truth is gone. A person does not feel this with his mind, but with his heart. And the heart wants to survive mainly.
      When the last Neanderthals were finished off, there was no truth left for them, even though before that she had been with them for a million years. The truth is where life is. And where there is no life, there is no truth, no lies.
      © SNUFF Victor Pelevin
    8. 0
      26 October 2015 11: 54
      Article - hodgepodge from other articles !!! Reading it, I could not get rid of the feeling of plagiarism from last week in any way .. essense minus request
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    10. -1
      27 October 2015 18: 58
      strength in the Russian spirit
    11. +1
      27 October 2015 19: 24
      insanity grows stronger)
    12. 0
      27 October 2015 21: 16
      it remains to create the conditions for them to break their spine in the next arms race! and they will start! but this should be the beginning of their end.
  2. +9
    25 October 2015 07: 03
    Yeah. Our troops flew into Syria like the wind. The impression is complete .... You can understand the Italians, no one just expected anything like that.
  3. +7
    25 October 2015 07: 08
    Uniforms, torpedo ships, command posts, everything looks as if at an exhibition, and fights accordingly.


    A little different:
    Uniforms, torpedo ships, command posts, everything looks as if at an exhibition, but it fights properly. soldier
  4. +21
    25 October 2015 07: 09
    ... you see these soldiers on TV, and they look like Americans ...

    In my opinion, an incorrect comparison.
    A Russian soldier, no matter how equipped he is, is always a cut above!
    This is evidenced by history, Russia has fought and won so many times, but the AMERS did not even dream of.
    What is one serious military company that the US won? I don’t remember ...
    The spirit of the Russian Soldier, this is a derivative of the Russian Soul, which can not be understood in the West.
    He is invincible!
    1. +2
      25 October 2015 11: 27
      Perhaps they mean "look like Americans" means cool equipped, equipped and technologically advanced.
    2. +3
      25 October 2015 12: 55
      Quote: Skif83
      In my opinion, an incorrect comparison.

      And they did not think, Dear colleague, that this is written by a foreigner, a citizen of a country that is a member of NATO, and for him, in addition to the American soldier, there are simply no other criteria.

      Something like that, colleague. hi
      1. 0
        25 October 2015 17: 48
        No, these are Italians, they have criteria for assessing a soldier’s combat readiness, not according to the Spirit and the BMP, but according to clothes and hanging trinkets. Like the Papuans laughing
    3. +1
      25 October 2015 20: 21
      Quote: Skif83
      What is one serious military company that the US won? I don’t remember ..

      The United States has officially lost only one war in Vietnam. Well, what about the serious wars in which the United States won - the First World War and the Second, apparently so - small-scale yard fights, not that the "valiant" Soviet-Finnish 1939-1940. It is good to propagandize amateurism.
      1. 0
        26 October 2015 00: 10
        Quote: Prometey
        The United States officially lost only one war in Vietnam.

        Between "losing" and "winning" there is still "not to lose" and "not to win". The Americans, at least, did not win in Grenada, Somalia, Cuba, and Korea. It is hard for the Americans to gain victories in spite of their enormous resources, they are crushed by numerical superiority, and that works every other time.
  5. +13
    25 October 2015 07: 14
    They did not expect that they would put on them and at the same time give a kick, bravo Russia !!!
    1. 0
      26 October 2015 14: 02
      The whole operation takes place with the consent of the amers. Both rockets and aircraft flew into Syria through Iraq. If the US closes the sky in Iraq, the operations of the Russian Armed Forces in Syria will be problematic.
  6. +17
    25 October 2015 07: 20
    After the Crimea, you can expect anything, but the accuracy of actions and lightning speed are amazing. And not coalition blows with spread fingers.
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    2. +8
      25 October 2015 07: 42
      Quote: guznorodov
      After the Crimea, you can expect anything, but the accuracy of actions and lightning speed are amazing. And not coalition blows with spread fingers.

      This suggests that the Russian leadership is very sensitive to the situation, using the opportunities offered to strengthen Russia.
    3. +8
      25 October 2015 07: 45
      ... the thoughtfulness is striking .... Putin does not "turn on" Khrushchev .... but this is exactly what was expected of him ... hi
  7. +6
    25 October 2015 07: 28
    And still not such surprises from Russia you will see gentlemen Pind .... Sy, wait.
  8. +15
    25 October 2015 07: 35
    Against this background, the landing of the US Marines in Portugal does not even look ridiculous, but ridiculous. Do they even know anything? Our guys at least on their shoulders, but would have endured! Now they’ll get stuck in the sand, then they will get lost in the taiga, then they will crash in their own way, then their gang of Bedouins will run, and this is the elite of the US Armed Forces.
    1. +4
      25 October 2015 07: 44
      So they serve for loot, and not for conscience.
    2. +3
      25 October 2015 08: 29
      This landing is more like a sortie of a drunken companion ... who does not know where to start .. whether to drink .. whether to drag equipment from the mud
    3. +1
      25 October 2015 11: 35
      Yes, the "landing" made an indelible impression. Well, except explain to the NATO people the difference in meanings of Russian words self-confidence(Amer landing in Portugal) and confidence in itself (actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria)?
      They could not even imagine that their "Humvi" were stuck in the beach sand. I can imagine how our Marines watched this story.
    4. 0
      25 October 2015 17: 31
      Nooo brother ... the mattress elite pulled these jeeps into the light ... they just ran out of Pepsi-Cola combat stock ... and the dashing landing was confused ... But the rest, these guys are big PRO
  9. +4
    25 October 2015 07: 40
    We have such a habit, fewer words, more business. So everything turns out well.
  10. +4
    25 October 2015 07: 40
    Yes, full of you. It’s not the Russians who are too strong, it’s the "progressive" West that is too weakened by becoming too hungry and dying in its tolerance and debt.
  11. +13
    25 October 2015 08: 08
    The experience of history says that the United States is able to adjust its reboot, which was done whenever it was necessary to confront the numerically superior powers on the battlefields (as once Germany and Japan).

    What kind of battlefields are we talking about?
    About Pearl Hubble?
    Or about the island war in the southern seas?
    And under artillery fire, on your land did not try to fight? Or under the bombing of their cities, where the enemy does not make out whether you are military or civilian, they bomb everyone in a row, didn’t you try like that?
    First try the intervention, and then show how you can knock out the enemy!

    Well, recently, we all watched what an American soldier looked like when landing in Portugal.
    So God forbid our soldiers to be like this herd!
    1. 0
      27 October 2015 15: 52
      The experience is wonderful. Of course, everyone has military failures, but the Americans cannot have them. belay ... Find information about the US Operation Cottage. Even somewhere here on the site there is an article. You will be frustrated. Time comparable to the defeat of the Kwantung Army.
  12. +3
    25 October 2015 08: 10
    Putin's war in Syria

    "Strongly" is said! Just like "Putin shot down a Boeing"
  13. +4
    25 October 2015 08: 19
    However, this is an indicator of the real quality of the army of mattresses. Strikes in Syria, the message of the USA and their hangers-on. We don’t need to scare us with our pieces of iron. We also have them. They are smaller, but they are cooler. And no one knows how to fight. It's time to negotiate. And they won’t go anywhere.
  14. +4
    25 October 2015 08: 20
    Strange people in the West have always believed and still believe that Russia is a barbaric country, that the lot of our people is slavery, submission and darkness. I personally do not care about their opinion!
    The main thing is to remember that Rome fell from the barbarians and if necessary will fall again. Our shield was at the gates of Constantinople, and if more is needed, we will pin our shields to all cities in Europe and the states. Let the expression "Russians go" evoke panic in the "advanced" West. They will never love us there, but they will always envy and hate us !!! So let them fear and respect, for our strength, for our unpredictability, for our vast expanses and the Russian spirit!
    1. +1
      25 October 2015 08: 46
      You may not be aware, but the shield on the gates of Constantinople means that the power to which the shield belongs is in vassal dependence on Byzantium, from which our historians took it, that it is the other way round, I don’t understand. This is for the sake of objectivity.
      1. +9
        25 October 2015 09: 08
        the shield on the gates of Constantinople means that the power to which the shield belongs is in vassal dependence

        where did you get that ??

        "Tsars Leon and Alexander made peace with Oleg, pledged to pay tribute and swore allegiance to each other: they themselves kissed the cross, and Oleg and his husbands were taken to swear oath according to the Russian law, and they swore by their weapons and Perun, their god, and Volos, the god of cattle And they established peace. And Oleg said: "Sew for Russia sails from the pavoloks, and for the Slavs co-prints" - and it was so. And he hung his shield on the gates as a sign of victory, and went from Constantinople. And Russia raised the sails from pavoloks, and The Slavs were koprinny, and the wind tore them apart; and the Slavs said: “Let us take our thickets, the Slavs are not given sails from the pavoloks.” And Oleg returned to Kiev, carrying gold, and pavoloks, and fruits, and wine, and all kinds of ornamental patterns. And they called Oleg Prophetic, since people were pagans and unenlightened. "
        PVL
        1. +1
          25 October 2015 09: 20
          I know what is written in the annals, I don’t understand why it is believed that the shield on the gate is a sign of victory ??? If in other cases of that time the shield is a sign of vassal dependence ???
          1. +2
            25 October 2015 09: 34
            Quote: JACTUS RECTUS
            I know what is written in the annals, I don’t understand why it is believed that the shield on the gate is a sign of victory ??? If in other cases of that time the shield is a sign of vassal dependence ???

            And how many vassal shields did the winners beat on the gates of Constantinople?
      2. +4
        25 October 2015 09: 37
        Quote: JACTUS RECTUS
        You may not be aware, but the shield on the gates of Constantinople means that the power to which the shield belongs is in vassal dependence on Byzantium, from which our historians took it, that it is the other way round, I don’t understand. This is for the sake of objectivity.

        The shield on the gates means who owns this gate, and therefore under whose protection the city is located, in which the shield is adorned. The patron cannot be a vassal.
        This is so, for greater objectivity of your objective remark
        1. +1
          25 October 2015 09: 59
          Your statements are not an axiom of gentlemen, why do you think that the truth is written in the annals ??? After all, then the nonsense about the kinship of Ivan the Terrible and the Emperor Augustus should also be taken as pure truth: Tsar Ivan Vasilievich IV the Terrible considered his oldest. “We are kinship from Augustus Caesar,” he wrote to the Swedish king, “this is also in the official record.
          1. +2
            25 October 2015 10: 40
            Quote: JACTUS RECTUS
            Why do you think that the truth is written in the annals ???

            logically speaking, there was little reason for the Christian chronicler to write a lie in favor of the "pagan" Oleg.
            Tsar Ivan Vasilievich IV the Terrible clan considered his oldest. “We are being related by August Caesar”

            Well, why not think about it? history, as you yourself know, is greatly distorted by the Scaligerian school ... if Etruscan inscriptions in Italy were read only by the end of the 19th century, when Slavic roots began to be applied to them, then it is possible that the Slavic brothers from the Etruscans were the rulers of the Roman Empire )
            1. +1
              25 October 2015 11: 17
              This is already some kind of Jewish syndrome can be called. Another "God's chosen people", everywhere Slavic ears stick out.
          2. 0
            25 October 2015 10: 53
            [Quote] After all, then the nonsense about the kinship of Ivan the Terrible and the Emperor Augustus, too, must be perceived as pure truth [quote]

            still caught
            "If you believe the sagas, songs and epics, Odoacer was the son of a Russian princess and a supernatural father (the Serpent in Russian legends was the embodiment of the Thunderer Perun and the subterranean ruler Veles). It may well be that this princess became the wife of the Skirian leader Edikon, and he adopted her son. By the way, Edicon was a very respected person in barbarian Europe - one of Attila's close associates.Together with the future father of the last emperor of the West, Orestes, he headed the Hunnic embassy to Constantinople.After the collapse of the Hunnic Empire, Theodoric of Ostrogotsky's father Theodimir, also a former commander of Attila, fell upon the Skyr kingdom. Apparently then the career of Odoacer began, a rootless (his father is not known), a tramp, bereft of inheritance, a prince of the Rus (by his mother) and Skirs (he is the adopted son of Ricks Skirs)!
            A demigod (in the legends of the Germans and the Rus, in any case) Odoacer is the first Prophetic Prince known to us, which much better allows us to understand the attitude of the Rus and the meaning of this title. Odoacer is a demigod, Vseslav the Prophetic of Polotsk - born of sorcery, Oleg the Prophetic ... Probably, there were similar legends about Oleg's birth. Perhaps the subsequent Russian princes were descendants of Odoacer? Maybe this is where the legends about the origin of the Moscow sovereigns from Augustus originate? "

            but about Odoacre, a Russian hero, even under Bogdan Khmelnitsky everyone knew well))
    2. 0
      25 October 2015 09: 45
      Yes, and the memory of pasta needs to be refreshed from time to time!
      Remind me how many Italian divisions took away the land near Stalingrad during the war!
  15. +4
    25 October 2015 08: 25
    Minus!
    Macaronnik argues that Putin is fighting everywhere, Putin is losing something, gaining it ... The gay-European liberal school is immediately visible, which now only knows how to lick the causal place from those who feed and dance. And these are the Zaokensk hosts from the Phashington regional committee. And it would not hurt to learn history. And then the signor knows more about who was balancing whom than the participants in those events ...
    Therefore, the perception of such inept analysis causes a negative opinion in me personally. Although for the Western "electorate" scared by invented threats, it will do lol
    hi
  16. +2
    25 October 2015 08: 25
    That .. that the West opened its mouths in surprise .. it’s clear how they will close ... it’s not the whole package of surprises from Russia that’s thought, Berries are ahead .. it’s Sarmat ... and BZHRK ... Yu-71 and much more, long list...
    1. 0
      25 October 2015 15: 07
      That's how they will live with their mouths open. Let them wonder and marvel. We will help you to be surprised.
  17. Erg
    +3
    25 October 2015 08: 29
    . She exposed herself to a real autodafa, which subsequently yielded results and allowed the first man to land on the moon. wassat Let them first learn to land on the beaches ... Clowns.
  18. +5
    25 October 2015 08: 45
    The 15 of the New York Times printed a very well-documented text about the traumatic effect that Putin’s war in Syria produces in America. Everybody was injured, and this can only be compared with one event: the launch of the first artificial satellite of the Earth 4 on October 1957. Then America discovered that she was mistaken in everything: in school education, in military training, university courses, capital investments ... She exposed herself to this auto-da-fé, which subsequently gave results and allowed the first man to land on the moon.

    ... the first satellite was the first!
    ... and at the expense of the first person on the moon, we still haven’t photographed its back side (well, I don’t believe mattresses)
    1. +1
      25 October 2015 09: 27
      Quote: BLOND
      On the 15th, the New York Times published a very well-documented text about the traumatic effect that Putin’s war on Syria has in America. Everyone was injured, and this can only be compared with one event: the launch of the first artificial Earth satellite on October 4, 1957. Then America discovered that it was mistaken in everything: in school education, in military training,


      This will just bring the next president to power with a great desire to take revenge and reassure the Americans ..
    2. +1
      25 October 2015 12: 16
      ... the first satellite was the first!

      Note that there is not a word at all about the First Man in Space in the pasta article. As if the flight of Gagarin did not come as a shock for amers. They need to arrange such a "shock" every 10 years, and then the "exclusivity" may pass. "Shock therapy" is called.
  19. +1
    25 October 2015 08: 49
    A typical analysis of a Western “analyst?” Sometimes, he carries utter nonsense, is poorly informed, and such specialists are ubiquitous in the EU!
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  21. +2
    25 October 2015 08: 57
    Quote: aktanir
    Syria has yet to win, and this is an extremely difficult task. The hitch caused by aerial bombardment, the terrorists will pass, they will begin to adapt. The conquest of territories is already very slow, and may even stop altogether. Therefore, the victorious report that we are the best is still premature. The war has just begun.
    I would not be surprised if the ground forces of the Russian Federation are still involved in ground operations in some local areas.

    Absolutely agree. A region with complex problems dating back centuries can be a tough nut to crack. And the Russian infantry has every chance to fight the world's evil in the Syrian expanses. God willing, this cup will pass us by ... But it pleases us that we "don't chew snot", we are getting ready ... But, as always, "we slowly harness it." soldier
    PS And what bursts of "reason" in the liberal mass media! EchoMats with Shenderovich and Latynina are simply splashing saliva at the expense of "vseprapal". Like "they abandoned (asking) Novorossia and switched to Syria in order to maintain Putin's rating, because they are not capable of more than" keeping the country in fear of war and do not change horses in the river. "Russia is not easy, but let's set priorities. I think they are right If only education and medicine could be leveled ...
  22. +6
    25 October 2015 09: 03
    What months of planning?!?
    You forgot how we in 1999, in Kosovo, did you squeeze the airport out in 30 minutes?
  23. +29
    25 October 2015 09: 15
    I’m a sailor, reserve officer, I would have fought well in a quilted jacket. I am sure. After all, all my ancestors are Siberian hunters, and I was born deaf in the village, which is already gone. I acquired all the skills of the current civilization, but I did not forget the former. In short, I can control both a steamboat and a tractor, shoot from a torpedo tube and from a rifle, walk in the ocean and in the taiga. I can harness a horse in a cart or sleigh, and move away from the pier on board a thousand-ton ship. I can even milk a cow. And still, I love the Motherland. And there are many of us in Russia. Be afraid.
  24. +2
    25 October 2015 09: 17
    By the way, ami or pentos called everyone who lived in Latin America. It went from the sailors. In short, pentos means dyed.
  25. +2
    25 October 2015 09: 25
    "JACTUS RECTUS Today, 08:46 ↑ NewYou may not know, but the shield on the gates of Constantinople means that the power to which the shield belongs is in vassal dependence on Byzantium, where did our historians get it, that it is the other way around, I do not understand . This is so, for the sake of objectivity. "
    Prtkolnaya objective logic !!!! Oleg rode with the army on dry land and on boats to the walls of Constantinople for thousands of kilometers, made them "Putin's smart maneuver" with boats for a complete encirclement, so as not to escape from Constantinople from those asking for vassalage, slapped a shield (apparently showing intentions to defend the unique Byzantium to the last Ukrainian) , took the loot for this and drove back! ..... can it be Moses accidentally wandered into Constantinople with friends?
    ... at me, for identity too.)))
    1. 0
      27 October 2015 16: 03
      Total. Oleg pressed himself to Constantinople to surrender. Nothing that far and hard! We are not afraid of difficulties. And so - why not drag your shield and for this not cut down the headstock?
  26. +1
    25 October 2015 09: 30
    Who has more land, people, oil, forest, water, churches per capita, classical families engaged in and who prefer classic sexual relations, who prefer classical education for their children and who raise their children themselves, rather than hired twitter and facebook, will win in everything !!!!
  27. -1
    25 October 2015 10: 10
    ...Not everything went smoothly in Georgia: Putin lost several planes...

    at that time, Medvedev was.
    1. 0
      25 October 2015 15: 58
      There was and still is the "Component" plant operating on 1967 equipment. The planes were lost because of his instruments, and not because of Medvedev, who was president for only three months. By the way, Medvedev asked the Minister of Defense for intelligence every half hour all night. The president of Georgia then, and now the governor of Odessa, deceived the LADY, saying that there would be negotiations, and 888 himself. And the seventy-year-old director of the "Component" Kuznetsov did not care what his plant produced. The main thing is to build another house for the "great-nephews" in Anapa. At the expense of the enterprise, of course. In 2009 there was jubilation - the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, gritting its teeth, nevertheless allocated money to order devices. There was no one else in the Russian Federation who could do it.
    2. +1
      25 October 2015 15: 58
      There was and still is the "Component" plant operating on 1967 equipment. The planes were lost because of his instruments, and not because of Medvedev, who was president for only three months. By the way, Medvedev asked the Minister of Defense for intelligence every half hour all night. The president of Georgia then, and now the governor of Odessa, deceived the LADY, saying that there would be negotiations, and 888 himself. And the seventy-year-old director of the "Component" Kuznetsov did not care what his plant produced. The main thing is to build another house for the "great-nephews" in Anapa. At the expense of the enterprise, of course. In 2009 there was jubilation - the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, gritting its teeth, nevertheless allocated money to order devices. There was no one else in the Russian Federation who could do it.
    3. -1
      26 October 2015 04: 50
      ... they don’t care ... Putin says in the training manual ..... and who else? bully
  28. 0
    25 October 2015 10: 22
    VKS of the Russian Federation brought prayers for peace on wings - supreme mufti of Syria
    1. 0
      25 October 2015 12: 23
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      VKS of the Russian Federation brought prayers for peace on wings - supreme mufti of Syria


      And they also brought a punishing sword on their wings for the "shaitans".
  29. 0
    25 October 2015 10: 26
    Quote: 222222
    The opinion of the regions is also an opinion and should be reckoned with with him .. Internal problems are growing by leaps and bounds .. even with the help of local authorities and 5 .6 .7 .8 columns.

    It is very important that everything is harmonious, in balance. These are 5, etc. the columns spoil and destroy everything from the inside, as if I’m worried about making the Motherland.
  30. +1
    25 October 2015 10: 29
    here it was necessary to lay IT out ?! Well, maybe only as an example of illiteracy
  31. 0
    25 October 2015 10: 43
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Quote: 222222
    The opinion of the regions is also an opinion and should be reckoned with with him .. Internal problems are growing by leaps and bounds .. even with the help of local authorities and 5 .6 .7 .8 columns.

    It is very important that everything is harmonious, in balance. These are 5, etc. the columns spoil and destroy everything from the inside, as if I’m worried about making the Motherland.

    The computer behaves like a hostile agent. The last words "worried about the judgment of the Motherland."
  32. 0
    25 October 2015 10: 50
    Unfortunately, there is also the worst computer wrecking, and not just mine. It is constantly necessary to track and check. Once in a very good article, the computer introduced distortion.
  33. 0
    25 October 2015 10: 59
    Seven years have passed since then, and during this period the idea of ​​the Russian army has radically changed: you see these soldiers on TV, and they look like Americans.
    I would not consider it a praise to compare with the Americans.
  34. 0
    25 October 2015 11: 09
    Russia is focusing. Now we would also have to raise the economy.
  35. 0
    25 October 2015 11: 38
    and over this period, the idea of ​​the Russian army has radically changed: you see these soldiers on TV, and they look like Americans.


    That is, like Americans in Hollywood films - brave, brutal and crushing the enemy like a carrot. But the point is that there is emptiness behind this candy, advertising wrapper. We have already seen the price of all these "tough guys" in Vietnam, and in subsequent colonial wars. They have not fought on their native land for a long time and this leaves an imprint on the fighting spirit of the nation. You can talk for a long time about bringing democracy to the peoples of the world, about the struggle for freedom, but reality puts everything in its place. And a soldier who sees what he is fighting for is unlikely to stand to death.
  36. 0
    25 October 2015 11: 42
    I haven’t seen the flag of a soldier on my sleeve yet - I thought it was from some kind of movie.
  37. 0
    25 October 2015 11: 46
    Quote: Sharapov
    It turns out that the pasta knows our history better than we do ?. This is to what cretinism you need to fall in order to scribble that Stalin attacked Japan to counterbalance the effect of the American atomic bombing .... BREDYATINA .... And what about "HUGE transport aircraft delivering divisions and weapons for the war with the Kwantung Army" ?? LAUGHTER. We did not have such transport workers then. The army was traveling on steam locomotives across the country ..


    I agree. So I read, and did not understand: what am I reading at all ?! Absolute nonsense. What, damn it, transporters? What is the balancing effect? ​​..
  38. 0
    25 October 2015 12: 25
    Americans know how to act in cold blood.
    It is good that we learned this - everything is thought out, balanced, which causes pride in our country.
    And the Americans at this moment just lose their temper, get nervous. But they will pull themselves together and draw conclusions - they know how.
    In this situation, the main thing for us is not to lose pace (and head).
  39. +1
    25 October 2015 12: 27
    pasta article-trash. In one thing he is right: the Americans are cretins, reproaches them for not professionalism, but he himself has some scarecrow clichés about "Uniforms, ships - torpedo bombers, command posts", and nonsense about GIANT transporters transporting troops 45m away. Another crap "The Russians are coming!"

    and yes ... they don’t go anywhere, they are already here, under your nose, just press the start button. Probably, not one Italian signora dropped a spoon with spaghetti from fright. All their passionarity came out long ago as steam.
    1. Are
      0
      25 October 2015 13: 28
      We will not criticize the article --- the Italian writes how he knows how and what he will print .. laughing
      One thing, in my opinion, is good, that in Europe they recognize that it became scary soldier drinks
  40. +2
    25 October 2015 13: 25
    Quote: 222222
    TV presenter from Novosibirsk told why the Russian Federation started a war in Syria!

    Everything, believed her. What for us war in Syria? Everyone home urgently! No money, everything was gone. we go to bed and die.
  41. 0
    25 October 2015 14: 46
    The mind cannot understand Russia, especially the West.
  42. 0
    25 October 2015 14: 56
    "What happens when Americans recover from their injury?"
    ====
    will print green and swipe into new weapons
  43. +1
    25 October 2015 16: 34
    What "experts" are not published in the bourgeois newspaper, Mama Mia!
  44. 0
    25 October 2015 16: 46
    Quote: Denis-Skiff
    Everything, believed her. What for us war in Syria? Everyone home urgently! No money, everything was gone. we go to bed and die.


    Well, why so categorically as one familiar cannibal spoke; Wait and see.
  45. 0
    25 October 2015 17: 24
    The Americans are simply enraged that Putin "saddled" and used their brainchild of ISIS without investing a dime in it.
    In addition, it bombs the opponents of Assad under the same sauce of "fighting terrorism"
  46. 0
    25 October 2015 17: 59
    Quote: Karabanov
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Branch of "Dozhd" in Novosibirsk?

    The painfully familiar logic of militant cheers. Opinion different from the template is perceived only as an enemy. And a cry is heard for the whole interent - keep the traitor!
    Well, are people so stubborn? In my opinion, this host, whoever she highlighted the very pressing problems of modern Russia.
    I am always amazed that many people believe that you need to love your homeland in Putin's way, in the Edrosian way, otherwise you are not a patriot at all, but an Amer’s enemy, undermining the foundations of statehood. The authorities believe that they have privatized the concepts of patriotism and are foolish.

    “Opinion other than stereotyped”?

    Here is a quote from this lovely lady with the look of a hard-working manipulator and the incredibly Russian surname London: "The protest moods begin to smell of revolution." And do not say, by whose efforts it was created, including the infusion of astronomical sums ($ 800 million for the presidential election), is this smelling of revolution, eh?

    Personally, I remember everything perfectly, all this paid abomination, and I'm not going to forget, unlike the likes of you:

    - a girl in front of the riot police with a look of a slut who broadcasts what Orthodox she is and what riot police are deceived, they are forced to beat innocent people, as they will be judged, and other nonsense for 20 minutes as a psychological treatment and an attempt to identify "flinch", then to lead individual "work"

    - an old man snooping around in the crowd and yelling at the camera several times: “What are you doing, why are you beating your own people ?!” - with the expectation that there will be hard acceleration, as in Greece, Turkey, Egypt, in the same USA, the use of rubber bullets, which in America do not shy away from shooting at a crowd with children in their arms

    - scum, cursing the children of riot police, their wives, trying to cause aggression and shooting it on camera

    - groups with posters in English for reporting on “grants”

    - An interview with Navalny, where he directly says that Russia needs a revolution like the Cairo revolution, i.e. need blood and war. Mr. * yes and ubl * dock - for me there is no doubt, as well as the moral and mental qualities of those who support him

    - Director of the NGO "Voice", which, smiling like a cat for sour cream, says that they pay very well

    - Chirikov and Co., going for briefing at the American Embassy

    - Bulk, screaming in the square "we can go to the Kremlin and take power"

    - employees of the American embassy watching the march from the gateway

    - and, as the apogee of all this funky vomit, call from Norway before the first white tape march from a man who roamed in Russia back in the early 2000s, making acquaintances here, and a message from this person that hundreds of thousands are on the streets, the government channels are lying, and the truth will be shown through cable channels

    Those. people were introduced even then, there was a plan for media support through alternative media if the central channels did not show these marches.

    This is a whole large-scale operation to overthrow the government and create a civil war, and you carry something about alternative points of view.


    So do not forget about the weather in the house, right. Especially when “opinions that differ from the template” suddenly remember the smell of revolution.

    Strengthening the state inside is impossible without strengthening from the outside. If orange evil spirits and black rot make their way outside, you need to clean the source of infection and apply a bandage, which is what we do in Ukraine and Syria.

    The time for antibiotics will come. For especially decomposed, there is also a scalpel. Well, or there is an ice ax.
  47. +1
    25 October 2015 18: 51
    And I liked the opinion of the Italian.
    "we found ourselves in the face of Russia, which has gone beyond the borders of the old empire, which has not happened since the days of Afghanistan."
    ...
    They were, heh, in the face. Of Russia.
    ...
    See, gentlemen, how not to face the Ass of Russia.
    Then too. EVERYTHING, for sure - ass - will come.
    ...
    How, I said everything.
    ...
    And Chingachgook begins his story .... God forbid, God ....
  48. 0
    25 October 2015 19: 26
    I watched a video with a chick unsatisfied, is there anyone from Novosibirsk? Does it even live there? or again casting from behind a hillock? I’m from the Kuban, we have nowhere to put the grub. No, of course the prices are creeping, but it depends entirely on the dollar rate
  49. 0
    25 October 2015 19: 28
    "But today we are not talking, thank God, about a military clash of superpowers, but only about understanding what is happening - and not making mistakes."
    It’s definitely not time to make mistakes - it’s time to correct them! Namely, to dissolve NATO, remove its military bases from all NATO countries, liquidate missile defense allegedly against Iranian missiles, and sit down at the negotiating table with Russia on ensuring peace on the basis of international law. This SGA will be more profitable than resisting us and trying to shower with our BSU! America, it’s time to take on the mind, not the gun - the era of America’s development has long passed, it would be time to turn into a civilized man, and not a savage with a Colt! hi
  50. +3
    25 October 2015 19: 41
    I don’t want to go into discussions - what is happening well in Syria or bad - but when the USSR was there - the mattresses were afraid to sneeze again and did the right thing !!! And the air in the world without the carriers of democracy was cleaner !!!
  51. 0
    25 October 2015 20: 45
    Quote: 222222
    TV presenter from Novosibirsk told why the Russian Federation started a war in Syria!

    To put it mildly, this “lady” is talking nonsense!
    1. 0
      26 October 2015 19: 39
      If this madam has nothing to eat, the question is, where does she live, in the urinosana??? fool
    2. 0
      26 October 2015 19: 42
      And yes, everything she says needs to be listened to (read) not Russia but country 404.
  52. 0
    25 October 2015 21: 11
    Just don’t delude yourself and relax!!!! The enemy is strong and cunning!!!!...
  53. 0
    25 October 2015 21: 43
    Exactly. Don't mess with us.
  54. 0
    26 October 2015 00: 30
    About the Moon - it’s also not a fact, it’s quite possible that it’s another Amer’s fake.
  55. +1
    26 October 2015 09: 54
    How does the BE fighter in the photo specially appear as a brown spot against a white background? He even painted the iron machine gun brown. Well, to make it as difficult as possible to miss it. But cool!
  56. +1
    26 October 2015 11: 55
    Quote: armored optimist
    I agree, Serge!

    Well, they licked it, they licked it
  57. 0
    26 October 2015 15: 38
    This is one of the big advantages of our participation in the Syrian war - through it it is simply vital to convey, first of all, to sworn friends in the Sunset Kingdoms that it is not worth fighting with us. Never at all. So that at the level of a reflex, from the mere thought of a war with the Russians, they begin to crap on themselves.
  58. 0
    26 October 2015 18: 38
    "In Georgia, not everything went smoothly: Putin lost several planes, the infantry was also not up to par."
    Why not
    Why wasn’t the darkest one at that time the emperor of the evil empire???????? "Light elves are such elves"
    Elves always get things wrong. smile
  59. 0
    27 October 2015 14: 51
    Until we restore order in our Country, it is premature to think about any Victory. There can always be scoundrels who will stab you in the back.
  60. 0
    27 October 2015 15: 18
    "... they organized evening performances with the participation of dancers, comedians and variety shows, and showed theatrical performances...".

    Well, it’s just an all-inclusive hotel - buffet, entertainment, show program in the evenings. What nonsense?
  61. +1
    27 October 2015 15: 20
    I, a Belarusian, your ally, was alarmed by the news from your media.
    “Employees of the Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation switched to working in three shifts due to the increased need for military supplies due to the operation in Syria. In addition, to deliver cargo to Tartus, the Russian Navy urgently purchased eight transport ships from Turkish shipowners. According to the publication, large landing ships could not cope with the load alone; as a result, the acquired ships were quickly included in the lists of auxiliary ships and given military status,” reports Kommersant-Vlast.
    And now it turns out that the Air Force has a reserve of missile weapons for three and a half weeks of not the most intense bombing by two squadrons, and these three and a half weeks of not the most intense bombing are already putting the missile factories in three shifts.

    And in the main Russian base at the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol, the city of naval military glory, once again - BASE OF THE Black Sea Fleet, there are no eight vessels capable of reaching Tartus. And again they have to be bought in Turkey.

    Bandera's underbelly. ISIS in Syria. Taliban in the Southeast. "Azov" in Mariupol. "Right Sector" in Piski. And most importantly, NATO is at the gates. NATO. u. gate NATO. W. GATE
    Where are the rockets? Ged adjustable bombs? Where are the barges? Where are the warehouses filled with 21st century weapons? Where are the production facilities? Where are Krupp, Ferdinand Porsche and Karl Zeiss? Where is the battleship Tirpitz? Where is everyone?

    And, yes... Where are twenty trillion?

    The pattern is completely broken, at least for me. Modern Russian officers, maybe I'm completely wrong? And everything is good? I would be glad to hear the opinions of knowledgeable people. And not hat-throwers.
  62. 0
    27 October 2015 16: 02
    Quote: Fighting Cat
    Quote: BilliBoms09
    Everyone was injured, and this can only be compared with one event: the launch of the first artificial Earth satellite on October 4, 1957.
    What kind of Americans are gentle, a little panicky and fainting. You see the trauma ... psychoanalysts work ... wink

    so mattresses consider themselves exceptional !!! laughing


    Exceptional trauma, to exceptional psychoanalysts, in Kashchenko wholesale, together with the author of this opus. WHAT kind of cockroaches are in the heads of those who read such bubblegum there?
  63. 0
    27 October 2015 19: 15
    Huge transport planes carried divisions and weapons to the battlefields in a land and air operation of unprecedented scale.

    We flew but low and low
  64. 0
    27 October 2015 19: 17
    Don't underestimate the Russians!!!
  65. 0
    27 October 2015 20: 00
    I can only say one thing - yes, we are strong! And it will always be like this now. For we have Truth on our side!
  66. 0
    27 October 2015 20: 29
    "We need to understand what's going on?" - Or where am I?
  67. 0
    27 October 2015 20: 36
    Quote: Thronekeeper
    It’s not news to anyone what kind of weapons Russia has.


    The fact of the matter is that this is wild news for them. Moreover, this is news even for our “military experts”. How the “military expert” hiccupped during Satanovsky’s program, when they called him and asked how a strike could be delivered from the Caspian Sea to Syria.
    This is a great demonstration and advertisement of our weapons. And Russia is no longer only the Kalashnikov assault rifle and S-300 known before, but also the evolutionary developments of the armata platform, which have no analogues in the world. And fighters and attack aircraft and ammunition for them and cruise missiles. And a certain system of electronic warfare equipment, shrouded in secrecy, which clearly has no analogues.

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