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Judah's "Order"

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In the first article of the cycle devoted to Russian awards (“The Order of the Holy Apostle Andrew the First-Called”), we only briefly touched the medals. Now it's time to talk about them in detail, especially since the medals are more associated with memorable, momentous events in stories of our Fatherland, while the order, rather, with a personal history of the kings who established them, and, of course, gentlemen of the gentlemen.



Jubilee ruble "100 anniversary of the birth of Lenin"

It’s rare now that the medal (fr. Medaille, lat. Metallum) is, in fact, a coin, and relatively close to us (on a large historical scale, of course) the time when a special ring was attached to the coin , to be worn on a belt or chain. The form best responded to the original direct reward function - reward. By calling a coin-medal it was possible to pay, for example, in a merchant's shop. She had a walk along with the national currency. In order to better imagine what it looked like, it is enough to recall the anniversary ruble 1970 of the year “100 anniversary of the birth of Lenin” or the golden royal chervonets.

True, at first in Russia, preference was given to hryvna - neck jewelery, which gradually transformed into a weight unit, and then into a monetary unit. For the first time chronicles (Nikonovsky list) are mentioned about awarding hryvnia in 1000: “In the summer of 6508 (from“ the creation of the world ”, of course. - M.L.), Volodar came from Kiev to Kiev, and Alexander Popovich was born from his meeting, and kill Volodar and his brother and many others Polovtsi beat, and others in the field of carnage. And when Volodimer heard this, he rejoiced greatly, and put the hryvnia on gold. ”

Judah's "Order"

Getman Ivan Mazepa

The descendants, specific princes, adopted the tradition from the Baptist of Russia, and the great princes of Moscow did not lag behind them. In “The discharge book” (the so-called collections of orders of the Russian government on annual assignments to military, civil and court service in the XVI – XVII centuries) we read about Ivan the Terrible: “And the sovereign granted this service to the noblemen in Novgorod Novgorod and in Moscow. gold, and other for gilded. " "Novgorod" and "Moscow" were called coins by their origin, and the cost of Novgorod was twice as high as that of its metropolitan "sister".

An interesting detail: on the obverse (front side) of the Novgorod, a horseman with a spear was depicted (a horseman with a saber in a jacket), hence the name of a penny - the smallest coin.

But back to the medals. Far from being always rewarded, he needed money so much that he exchanged the coin he was granted. This was especially true for owners of rare Portuguese - the most valuable gold coins with the coat of arms of Portugal on the obverse and, for some reason, the Orthodox did not at all seem unacceptable, a Jesuit cross on the reverse side, on the reverse. Of course, such medalists could be counted on one's fingers, but most often on the market there was a gilded tuxedo - the reward of a gunner, an archer or a Cossack.


Hryvnia, 200 grams. Central Naval Museum, St. Petersburg

Sometimes coins were minted so massively that they were enough not only for the living, but also for the dead. Thus, under Sofia Alekseevna, the Russian ruler and elder sister of Peter the Great, for all of the Crimean campaigns, a total of four hundred gold coins were awarded with medals at a quarter of the chervontsa, and about a hundred thousand veterans were recruited. For those who died, their families received an award. Prince Vasily Golitsyn, the leader of these unsuccessful campaigns, was not forgotten: we don’t know if there was a golden Portuguese in his collection (the prince secretly patronized the Jesuits), but in his lifetime portrait, Golitsyn is depicted with an impressive medal on a chain made especially for him .

Yet the Golitsyn medal does not go to any comparison with the “washer” that they wanted to “decorate” (along with the rope loop, presumably) the neck of the Little Russian hetman Ivan Mazepa at the beginning of the next century and under another Russian ruler. Ironically, it was Vasily Golitsyn who demanded that Mazepa be appointed hetman, accusing the current hetman Ivan Samoilovich of treason and blaming his own mistakes on him.
It’s not even interesting that the denunciation of Samoilovich (probably not unreasonable) was the work of Mazepa: the future gentleman of the “Order” of Judas denounced his boss in intent to tear the Little Russian regions from Russia and form an independent state. It’s hard to say for sure if Samoylovich’s intention was really that, but the fact that in 2000, Ukraine issued a stamp in memory of this hetman (Mazepa had already been portrayed on small Ukrainian bills for a quarter of a century), perhaps in favor of this assumptions.

So, Mazepa. His story, like the story of the most important of his betrayals, we will not describe in detail here. Once again let us touch on the effect that the hetman's treason had on Peter and all of Peter the Great in Russia. The Tsar in every way raised and appreciated Mazepa, so much so that he did not want to believe the numerous denunciations against him and even not quite reasonably gave the scammers to punish them for the failed victim. In one of the personal messages, just about the next denunciation, the Russian tsar wrote to the hetman: “We still don’t want any of these false pretenses as before, knowing us, the great sovereign, your everlasting unshakable loyalty.” To which he answered with a captivating sweetness: "I can never be separated by arrows or fire from the love of the most radiant and most gracious my sovereign."

When the first rumors of treason came, Peter initially refused to believe them: "We know the great sovereign, he has learned that the hetman Mazepa has disappeared without a trace, and we will be confused about how fictitious they are." But the matter was not in the "fiction of the enemy." The prudent hetman made a bet on a stronger, as it seemed to him, political player - the Swedish king Charles.

Soon followed the royal manifesto (from 22 October 1708): “Hetman Mazepa, having forgotten the fear of God and his kiss to our godfather, changed and moved to the enemy our king of Sweden ... so that, with the general consent of him, the Russian land would enslave the Polish and give the churches of God and the holy monasteries to the union. " As for the return of Little Russia under the “Polish possession”, Peter was laughed: Mazepa, like most Ukrainians, hated the Poles and did not dream of surrendering to them.

Be that as it may, but, having gone over to the side of the enemy of Russia, the hetman lost his mind: the vaunted Swedish army suffered a crushing defeat at Poltava, and the population of Little Russia did not support betrayal. The Orthodox Church, meanwhile, betrayed Mazepa anathema. Required and secular punishment. But, since it was impossible to get to the escaped hetman, an exemplary civil penalty was staged over his doll. Apparently, the “order” of Judas was not assigned the last role in this ceremony, however, the manufacturers hesitated a bit, and the worthy reward did not find its hero, even in the form of its image. And after the Poltava victory, the traitor himself retired from the human court: in the autumn of 1709, Mazepa died under unexplained circumstances in Turkish Bendery.

What did the “order” of Judas not receive? To begin with, it was not an order, but a medal, albeit a truly gigantic one. Here is her description given when ordering the most beautiful prince Alexashka Menshikov (his spelling): “Make that hour an silver manet weighing ten pounds, and cut Judah on the asin by hanging and at the bottom of the thirty pieces of silver lying, and with them bags, and back signature: the damned son of a perishing Jude, a hedgehog for choking money. Yes, for that maneuver, create a two-pound chap, and send that coin to the military campaign by special mail immediately. ” A subtle point is connected with an aspen: the historical Jude could hardly have found an aspen somewhere in Palestine, but in Ukraine they preferred to hang criminals on this very common tree in those parts, so the reward to the new “destructive Jude” was also, so to speak in the splendor of national color.

The weight of the "order" 10 pounds. Count. One pound was four hundred-odd grams at the time. Ten pounds plus a two-pound “chap” is 5 kg. Where did this weight come from? Some researchers are trying to raise it to the Roman pound (it was called a libra and corresponded to 327,45 d), but in this case the weight of the "order" would be much more, and thirty antique tetradrachms, which, in all likelihood, received biblical Judas, weigh much less - about a pound. However, perhaps, releasing a fair amount of silver efimki, quarters and semi-telephony to make the Order, Peter just wanted to hang Mazepa around his neck for something heavy, like a drowned stone?

It was not necessary for the hetman to carry the silver manet, although she soon found a use. In July, 1710, Yust Yul, the envoy of the Danish kingdom in Russia, after visiting the Tsar’s binge-dress, noted in his “Notes” that “Prince Shakhovskaya, the one who wears the Order of Judas, voluntarily took slaps for chervonets who would give more.” We will not, however, be terrified ahead of time by "eastern barbarism," especially if an arrogant European testifies of him. Yes, an indispensable participant of the Most Consolidated and Most Experienced Council, nicknamed there as “the archdeacon Gedeon”, and in the “peace” held during the reign of the king in the position of chamberlain, Yury Fedorovich Shakhovskaya was a figure ambiguous, to put it mildly.



They wanted to reward this medal with the inscription “The damned son of a perishing Judas, for a sake of avarice,” he deserved! - traitor Mazepa
Here is what Prince Boris Kurakin said about him: “And now we mention especially about Prince Shakhovsky, who was a lot of crazy and a reader of books, only the most evil vessel and drunk, and did evil to everyone from first to last. And he did what he did to see all the ministers of their affairs, and then at the table during His Majesty, everyone of them barked and reproached everyone with their deeds, through which His Majesty's channel knew everything ... ” That is, to put it simply, Yury Fedorovich was a royal earphone. It was easier for him to “work” under the jester's fool.

So the "Order" relied Shakhovsky, we can say by law. The reason for the award was found such (in the program of the same Yust Yulia): “The king told me that this jester was one of the smartest Russian people, but ... when the king once spoke to him about how Judas the traitor sold the Savior for 30 silver coins Shakhovskoy objected that this was not enough, that Judas should have taken more for Christ. Then, mocking Shakhovsky and in punishment for what he ... seemed to be also not averse to selling the Savior ... only for a great price, the king immediately ordered the above-mentioned Order of Judas to be made with the image of this last while he was going to hang himself. " Forgive the foreigner inaccuracy: the "order" of Judas was already made by that time.

By awarding his pet as a joke (and Shakhovskoy was, of course, the emperor's favorite, which some time later followed another, more than serious proof), Peter pursued another goal: to symbolically punish the entire family of the Shakhovskys, because the ancestors of the “archdeacon Gideon” should be noted not distinguished loyalty to the kings. Thus, Prince Grigory Fedorovich Shakhovskaya served consistently to False Dmitry I and II, was implicated in the rebellion of Ivan Bolotnikov, and was called in his chronicles of his time “blood breeder”.

And the cousin of the chamberlain-jester, Matthew Fyodorovich, carelessly boast of his kinship before the Romanovs, played with his relatives a parody of election to the kingdom of Mikhail Romanov, and he played the role of the king in this clown act, which almost cost him his head. It is no coincidence that Prince Fyodor Romodanovsky, in a letter to Peter, once ironically called Yuri Fedorovich "a pious prince of noble root, pious bones."

However, the old boyar scores and rude pranks at the Most Inspiring Council did not prevent Peter from rewarding his confidant royally: in 1711, that is, two years after receiving the "Order" of Judas (who, by the way, the prince wore everywhere with a clown dignity ), Shakhovskoy was appointed ... the head of the entire Russian military police! Like this.

It seems that in the new position he was not able to appear before his subordinates with a funny reward. The last references to the “order” of Judah date back to the time of Anna Ioannovna’s reign, when this cumbersome trinket was made an indispensable attribute of every jester the beloved ruler. Further the trace of the “order” is lost.

But the memory of him is alive and to this day. Just the other day, the Ministry of Defense of Russia expressed a joking intention to award the “Order” of Judah Anton Gerashchenko, an adviser to the Ukrainian Minister of the Interior, who offered to compile and publish lists of Russian pilots fighting in Syria. True, this candidacy seems to be not entirely successful: Gerashchenko does not betray anyone, on the contrary, he faithfully serves as a chain dog to his Western masters.
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  1. vovanpain
    vovanpain 23 October 2015 15: 04
    68
    Gerashchenko should not be awarded the Order of Judah, but an ice ax, but these Jewish women have long deserved such an order.
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 23 October 2015 15: 07
      58
      I will add one more Judas.
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 23 October 2015 15: 11
        51
        But this glory to God received such an order from the devils in the next world.
        1. Ross_ulair
          Ross_ulair 23 October 2015 15: 21
          17
          Quote: vovanpain
          But this glory to God received such an order from the devils in the next world.


          After these photos, you begin to believe in reincarnation.
          In the case of wrestling-drunk and bulk - lifetime
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 23 October 2015 19: 19
            +7
            Quote: ROSS_Ulair
            After these photos, you begin to believe in reincarnation.

            smile
        2. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 23 October 2015 15: 33
          20
          Quote: vovanpain
          But this glory to God received such an order from the devils in the next world.

          Still a monument am he was demolished in Eburg so generally well ..
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 24 October 2015 02: 43
            +7
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            Still a monument to him was demolished in Eburg so generally well ..

            And it’s better not to tear down, but to turn it over. So that the memory remains for centuries. And it’s worth it - some man. Demolished - and do not remember. BUT upside down - forever remembered! Yes, even paint translucent yellow paint. Flowing ...
        3. tolian
          tolian 23 October 2015 16: 06
          +4
          I found out with difficulty the drunk.
        4. Terner38
          Terner38 23 October 2015 17: 33
          +6
          Copy shit!
          1. sherp2015
            sherp2015 23 October 2015 18: 04
            +5
            Quote: Terner38
            Copy shit!


            And that’s true, it’s like ... Is it really his illegitimate son? )))
        5. sherp2015
          sherp2015 23 October 2015 18: 03
          0
          Quote: vovanpain
          But this glory to God received such an order from the devils in the next world.


          This ... received from masons - the order of the goddess BAO
        6. MIK.VIK.
          MIK.VIK. 23 October 2015 20: 10
          0
          The frying pan now licks its tongue and stands in a boiling resin. Near where all sorts of Berezovsky are being jabbed with guides ...
        7. tomcat117
          tomcat117 23 October 2015 20: 24
          +1
          Take a look at how Yeltsin resembles Navalny (or vice versa)
      2. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 23 October 2015 15: 46
        22
        Gorbachev, instead of the highest order of Russia - the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called, handed to him when he was President of the Russian Federation D. Medvedev, on behalf of Russia, needs this order of Judah by the neck.
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 23 October 2015 19: 38
          +5
          Who knows if there is a mechanism for depriving such a high award (Gorbachev)?
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 24 October 2015 02: 46
          +4
          Quote: vladimirZ
          Gorbachev, instead of the highest order of Russia - the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called, handed to him when he was President of the Russian Federation D. Medvedev, on behalf of Russia, needs this order of Judah by the neck.

          I apologize for the slaughter, but the medal for Hunchback has long been cast ...
      3. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 23 October 2015 15: 48
        +1
        Well, this rope and soap along with the underlying!
      4. nils
        nils 23 October 2015 16: 50
        19
        You’ll answer for the collapse of Russia ...

        You are a naive person.
        Under this system of oligarchic capitalism, the guarantor of which is the Supreme Guarantor, these copies are the most honorable members of the "elite society", awarded the highest awards of the Russian state.
        List of Knights of the Order "For Merit to the Fatherland" I degree:
        Yeltsin, Medvedev, Fradkov, Kuchma, Luzhkov, Rostropovich, Chernomordin, Rossel, Mark Zakharov, Volchek, etc. A typical list of figures who have made a feasible contribution to ensuring human freedoms and rights, true patriots of "their" homeland.
        The list of full gentlemen of all 4 degrees of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, which includes Chernomyrdin, Shaimiev, Rossel, Matvienko, Zubkov, Stroyev, Tsereteli, Mark Zakharov, Volchek, Plisetskaya, Tabakov, Solomin, Zeldin, Mikhalkov, Vishnevskaya, is quite touching. , Armored, Temirkanov.
        Indeed, it is possible to prove yourself in Russia mainly on the stage and for those elected in the Kremlin.
        If you take the nationalities of those awarded, the Russian nation is completely impoverished.
        Many thanks to the Jews that they, as in 1917, took upon themselves the main burden of the rule of Russia on the path of its movement into a brighter future.
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 23 October 2015 19: 43
          +6
          I hope there is a closed list, where the military, inventors and designers ... otherwise, all the people are solid.
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 24 October 2015 02: 58
          +2
          Quote: nils
          The list of full gentlemen of all 4 degrees of the Order "For Merit to the Fatherland" is quite touching.

          Plisetskaya, Tabakov, Solomin, Zeldin, Armored ... And the rest for what?

          Tsereteli, for example, has built such monuments to himself that no orders are needed. For another 100 years, people will laugh until they turn it over to nonferrous metal. And what distinguished Matvienko? I once had one familiar Komsomol functionary of a regional scale - we studied with his sister in the same class. He told the whole evolution of Komsomol workers from an instructor to a second secretary. And how they are for "special merits", when their intended use borders on perversion, are sent with honor as ambassadors to Malta and Cyprus. A well-deserved workaholic ... And Zubkov will never wash himself off for dragging his son-in-law ...

          "Devotees", beach ...
      5. Vyacheslav 64
        Vyacheslav 64 23 October 2015 17: 44
        +4
        And another order must be established for this public - the order of General Vlasov.
      6. 1goose3
        1goose3 23 October 2015 22: 49
        0
        And the red-haired "favorite" of all Russians on the same "line".
    2. mirag2
      mirag2 23 October 2015 15: 12
      10
      not to award the Order of Judah, but an ice ax
      Like Trotsky-Broshtein! laughing
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    4. Ross_ulair
      Ross_ulair 23 October 2015 15: 19
      17
      Quote: vovanpain
      Gerashchenko should not be awarded the Order of Judah, but an ice ax, but these Jewish women have long deserved such an order.


      What "bright", "spiritualized" faces! You can immediately see the real fighters with the mode.

      PS This is why all Russophobia faces are so scary, as if not people at all, but some animals.
      And the opposite is true - people who are normal in our country are bright, sweet. What does this pattern manifest on all continents - what is the only president of Argentina worth! Or Marie Le Pen, along with a German colleague (I don’t remember my name, unfortunately - she constantly smashes Merkel smile )

      They compare Russia with Mordor, and the west with elves ... Only here, elves of the West have some kind of orcish faces, and among the inhabitants of Mordor they are just normal, human yes
      1. Varyag_1973
        Varyag_1973 23 October 2015 15: 43
        23
        For ROSS_Ulair. I’ve taken it straight from the tongue!

        Ah, the German name is Sarah Wagenknecht! Very nice lady, for Germans, in general, a super beauty!

        But about the fact that Russophobia leaves an imprint on the face absolutely agree! I often ask myself this question! There must be a God in the world and he marks these sham! After all, it’s true that you don’t look at any of the Russophobes, it’s the same circus of ugly * ones!

        The women themselves are worth nothing: Novodvorskaya, Alekseeva, Latynina, Samantha Power, Condoleezza Rice, Sobchak, Vasilyeva, Farion, etc. ........., brrrr !!! Not by night will be remembered, ugh you, God forgive me!
        1. tolian
          tolian 23 October 2015 16: 14
          +3
          Russophobia is not the reason. Russophobia is a consequence of this ugliness.
          1. sherp2015
            sherp2015 23 October 2015 18: 10
            +2
            Quote: tolian
            Russophobia is not the reason. Russophobia is a consequence of this ugliness.

            Rather, hate
      2. VOLCHOXURAL
        VOLCHOXURAL 23 October 2015 15: 58
        0
        Please tell me why the comment pictures are not displayed? request
      3. tolian
        tolian 23 October 2015 16: 10
        +6
        After all, the selection is all Jews. Not Jews, namely Jews. And they always have anger. The only one. Stolen a little. Others are bigger. Listen, for example, to Navalny. Everyone, of course, understood that one word was separated by administrators.
        1. ksenya
          ksenya 23 October 2015 16: 21
          +1
          Quote: tolian
          After all, the selection is all Jews. And they always have anger.


          All, but not all. The notorious recidivist Pussy is again served in front of ami.http: //infopolk.ru/1/W/recent_opinions/1445436027#b1674fe6-ee25-6904-b07b-7f
          b63e01cc03
          To her, an excellent student girl, why be angry?
      4. sherp2015
        sherp2015 23 October 2015 18: 09
        +5
        Quote: ROSS_Ulair
        They compare Russia with Mordor, and the west with elves ... Only here, elves of the West have some kind of orcish faces, and among the inhabitants of Mordor they are just normal, human


        And take the faces of members of the government. Some Shuvalov, Cossack, Naryshkin, Livanov, Goladets. They have absolutely alien features for our people
    5. vorobey
      vorobey 23 October 2015 15: 42
      +7
      Quote: vovanpain
      and an ice ax


      but the dogs I heard put to sleep ... it's humane ... repeat
      1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        Vladimir Pozlnyakov 23 October 2015 15: 52
        +3
        Sometimes they sterilize, become kind and docile, but they do not produce their own kind!
    6. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 23 October 2015 15: 45
      10
      I do not see a single person involved in the portraits that are not worthy of the visit of Ramon Markader! That is why they instill hatred of Stalin, that during his reign, it was this audience, the 5-column, filled the Gulag! Where is their place now!
      1. tolian
        tolian 23 October 2015 16: 15
        +3
        Svanidze where? Two Pravdyuk to Zhukov tried on.
    7. Thronekeeper
      Thronekeeper 23 October 2015 15: 51
      0
      Nemtsov and Borovoy are already a little 200.
      And gerashchenko - yes ... The Order of Judas will suit him on a hemp pendant and "gilyak" instead of a chain.
      1. Ross_ulair
        Ross_ulair 23 October 2015 18: 55
        +1
        Borova is somehow more alive than all the living ...
        This is Ilyinichna - bye-bye, and he is hearty
    8. Million
      Million 23 October 2015 16: 22
      +2
      everyone’s faces are kosher)
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    10. go21zd45few
      go21zd45few 23 October 2015 19: 27
      +1
      How much manure is still in Russia, it’s time to put this manure in accordance with its purpose, for fertilizer.
    11. NDR-791
      NDR-791 23 October 2015 19: 32
      +3
      I don’t see Ryzhy, Golikova, Nabiulina, Akhedzhakova ... I don’t see a mighty bunch of governors ... As the same Peter used to say - "the clerk who has been sitting in his place for five years must be hanged"
    12. MIK.VIK.
      MIK.VIK. 23 October 2015 20: 08
      +1
      Order of the stoop with a twist on the back.
    13. Oman 47
      Oman 47 23 October 2015 20: 38
      0
      Half of these portraits have "PURE G'USSKIE" faces, noses, ears and surnames ...


      Well, and what are the problems: a couple of special flights to the land promised by the EMERCOM of Russia are able to master?! ...
      1. Mikhalych 70
        Mikhalych 70 23 October 2015 21: 21
        0
        Are they needed there? It seems to me that there are enough thieves there. If only with 200s and stacks. That would, so to speak, rest in the promised land ...
    14. tank64rus
      tank64rus 23 October 2015 20: 47
      +1
      Order and ice ax in addition, but rather vice versa, posthumously.
    15. Bochik
      Bochik 24 October 2015 00: 21
      0
      But Trinity apparently sealed in Trotsky in Trotsky ...
  2. Finches
    Finches 23 October 2015 15: 05
    13
    Interesting article! I strain my memory - whether I saw this hryvnia in the Naval Museums or passed by ...

    And what about the Order of Judas - no need to joke! It would be necessary to revive and present this order to all "honored" comrades, which, unfortunately, the land has become rich in them ... I knew your "principled" views ... You can give the order of different degrees - indicating how many pieces of silver the awarded person sold or is ready to the Motherland ...!laughing
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 23 October 2015 15: 43
      +7
      Only neither silver nor luminium should be used in the manufacture. Cast Iron - this is the material for this kind of award.
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    2. kizhe
      kizhe 23 October 2015 16: 21
      0
      Another place to choose for delivery is nasty and smelly.
  3. mig31
    mig31 23 October 2015 15: 05
    +4
    On the mane of Mazepa the Order of Judah, and to all his descendants and admirers ....
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 23 October 2015 15: 46
      +2
      By the way, Mazepa in Ukrainian hryvnias flaunts from the day of * independence *.
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  4. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 23 October 2015 15: 14
    +3
    No, not on the neck, so they will take off ... and to drive into that place from which you will not get ... Moreover, the size is good ...
  5. Basil50
    Basil50 23 October 2015 15: 27
    +3
    Many worthy of this medal live * happily *, they also enter into discussions about morality. Article and design are provocative. It was IN AND LENIN ULYANOV who created the state on the * ruins * of the RUSSIAN EMPIRE, destroyed by traitors relying on foreign curators. The Bolshevik Party, contrary to all enemies, created the SOVIET UNION and defended it, punishing all those involved in the betrayal, including the destroyers of the RUSSIAN EMPIRE. Maybe it is intolerance to betrayal and betrayal, the real punishment of traitors and * Judas * so annoying * the democratic public *? Why in the design of the anniversary medal?
    1. SMS
      SMS 23 October 2015 15: 42
      16 th
      This Lenin should be the first on the list to receive this order! Why is he better than the Bendery revolutionaries?
      1. Finches
        Finches 23 October 2015 15: 48
        +7
        Let’s not touch Vladimir Ilyich — he didn’t carry out a coup d'etat in Russia and overthrew the emperor, he, on the contrary, saved Russia, which all liberal democratic comrades, such as Admiral, Milyukov and others, had already sold right and left.
        1. SMS
          SMS 23 October 2015 15: 55
          -6
          The German general staff and American bankers (Jacob Schiff and others) supplied your Ilyich with one purpose to destroy Russia. It was not he who overthrew the emperor, he simply gave an order to destroy him and his CHILDREN!
          1. Basil50
            Basil50 23 October 2015 16: 03
            +1
            sms. Your democratic * bunch * doesn’t correlate with facts in any way. For how many years they have been trying to at least * dig * something, but everything rests on frank authorial fakes.
            1. SMS
              SMS 23 October 2015 16: 13
              11 th
              "bunch" it comes from you. How many Russian people were killed thanks to the civil war, how many left for emigration, how many were slaughtered by the Cheka? There is nothing to dig everything in fact you can see!
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 23 October 2015 16: 35
                -3
                There is nothing to dig, everything is in fact visible!

                Have you been there?
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          3. Egoza
            Egoza 23 October 2015 16: 04
            +1
            Quote: SMS
            It was not he who overthrew the emperor, he simply gave an order to destroy him and his CHILDREN!

            A link to a document signed by Lenin is possible?
          4. Egoza
            Egoza 23 October 2015 16: 07
            +6
            Quote: SMS
            The German general staff and American bankers (Jacob Schiff and others) supplied your Ilyich with one purpose to destroy Russia.

            Aha! They thought that their money would be used to destroy Russia, and Lenin used it to create a socialist state! then the "sponsors" bit their elbows! laughing
            1. SMS
              SMS 23 October 2015 16: 18
              +3
              It was not Lenin who created it, but Stalin, Ilyich was destroying everything. You don’t forget how many cultural values ​​were sold abroad for nothing!
              1. Finches
                Finches 23 October 2015 16: 45
                +8
                Michael, why are you so categorical, as if with all that was happening you were a personal witness in the 17th year? After all, the facts are a very stubborn thing! Lenin, on the fragments of the Russian empire destroyed by the liberals, built the same Russian empire, but with a different political and economic formation, but with small territorial concessions! They gave Poland, Finland ... but they saved everything that their ancestors conquered - But the homeland was sold in black, your liberal icons! The second attempt at the collapse of Russia took place in 1991 and the country in which our grandfathers and great-grandfathers put their work into it, and sometimes life ceased to exist! You yourself built, for many many years, a big house for your whole family, and suddenly, your daughter’s husband comes and sells it to pieces, taking advantage of your temporary illness and inability to resist .... That’s how your like-minded people ruined the country!
                1. SMS
                  SMS 23 October 2015 19: 01
                  +6
                  Eugene, I doubt that you were there too (in 1917). You know bad history, I repeat once again that Stalin created the Soviet empire, but your Ilyich, like Yeltsin, was falling apart, the only goal was to come to power by any means. And what kind of liberal icons do I have? My icons are Suvorov, Skobelev, Nakhimov, Ushakov, etc., but who do you have? By the way, on the orders of your beloved Ilyich, monuments and museums to our Russian commanders were demolished and invented their idols Marx, Engels and Rosa Luxemburg. And only then, during the time of Joseph Vissarionovich, they paid tribute to them.
                  1. Finches
                    Finches 23 October 2015 19: 43
                    +3
                    Oh! Eco you are brought in by Mihil! Stalin, there is a continuation of Lenin’s case, but Stalin didn’t emphasize the mistakes made by Lenin, but we don’t deny these mistakes? !!! We don’t initialize them! But we reflect and draw conclusions, comparing them with democracy In the West, there was more social justice in the Soviet system, and here we come to the era of I. Stalin, but you can’t compare him to anyone, he pulled the country out of the world war! Let’s say Nicholas II prosralized his war and country — perhaps the basement of the Ipatiev House, it was his cross and was a salvation for the Fatherland — it is this death for the sake of the Motherland that allows him to be canonized by the Orthodox Church today!
                  2. lewerlin53rus
                    lewerlin53rus 23 October 2015 22: 02
                    +4
                    But you didn’t take into account that before Lenin and his October revolution it was February, which overthrew the tsar and ruined, in fact, the empire.
                2. BARKHAN
                  BARKHAN 23 October 2015 20: 04
                  10
                  You can love and dislike Lenin, respect and disrespect ... but don’t recognize how enormous a historical person is stupid. With a small group of like-minded people, he set a huge empire in cancer. At the expense of the imperial family. Yes, cruel. Yes inhuman. A hundred years ago it didn’t look so cruel. They cut red, cut white. History. And yet my deep conviction, it’s time to bury Ilich. With honors, with red banners, and salute. Well deserved a man, at least kill. The time has come go further, and not overwhelm the past. The French Napoleon also perceived differently, but reburied with honors. We have a Great History and great achievements! We must be proud of this. And rally. Otherwise, bent separately.
                  1. Basil50
                    Basil50 23 October 2015 20: 24
                    +2
                    To the dune. You are right, the option of making a tomb from the mausoleum was recently discussed.
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                  3. povojdtrf
                    povojdtrf 24 October 2015 15: 20
                    0
                    YOUNG BARKHAN !!!
    2. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 23 October 2015 15: 49
      +5
      Vasily, not all communists were traitors to the Russian people. Subsequently, this was confirmed by the Great Patriotic War. What can not be said about the representatives of the white movement - "caring for the Motherland" who killed the Russians in Hitler's troops. (Although this was not particularly widespread) Ukrainians do not count ...

      You don’t need everyone under one comb, otherwise you yourself will someday find yourself ...
      1. Basil50
        Basil50 23 October 2015 16: 12
        +5
        For me, the Communists are the builders of a new society and the new state of the SOVIET UNION, and moreover, successful builders. It is a pity that the traitors began to forgive, they did not always shoot, so forgiveness came back.
    3. samara-58
      samara-58 23 October 2015 16: 16
      0
      They also muddied the water ... Candidate candidates!
    4. Basil50
      Basil50 23 October 2015 20: 21
      0
      I ask you to forgive the inattention, there is an error in the text, of course, instead of * medal * there should be * coin *.
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  6. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 23 October 2015 15: 28
    +5
    One of the troubles of Russia is that there are always those who are ready to take up the "position of Judas" in it, the main thing is that they pay and feed well; in a word, there is still enough cattle in the echelons of power and among the so-called. "creative intelligentsia", yes, these for 30 pieces of silver, will pretend to do so ... in one word creative ...
  7. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 23 October 2015 15: 31
    10
    But isn’t it a pity to spend on each 10kg feeder? Maybe it's better to make a medal from depleted uranium? Hang on a causal place.
  8. Old warrior
    Old warrior 23 October 2015 15: 41
    +7
    Forgot there Chubais add ... repeat
  9. SCHNIFER
    SCHNIFER 23 October 2015 15: 44
    32
    Judah is a controversial character, and there are enough opinions on this issue. But there is a worthy replacement.
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 23 October 2015 16: 01
      +1
      Krasava ....)))
    2. Aleks28
      Aleks28 23 October 2015 16: 02
      +7
      Quote: SCHNIFER
      Judah is a controversial character, and there are enough opinions on this issue. But there is a worthy replacement.

      Plus, but I just want to add that this squalor is not worthy of simple memory, especially since the bar is from the order. Of course, the same is not an unambiguous figure, but not in comparison with vegetables ...
    3. the villain
      the villain 24 October 2015 18: 14
      +1
      Quote: SCHNIFER
      Judah is a controversial character

      Against the background of modern "fighters for democracy and all and all kinds of liberal values," Judas does not look so bad.
      At least he had the conscience to realize what he had done, and to punish himself for it.
      Modern "Jews" are simply not capable of this because of their complete shamelessness.
  10. Homo
    Homo 23 October 2015 15: 52
    +2
    This is all of course interesting, only one question: Why exactly the Jubilee ruble with a portrait of Lenin? A more neutral example could have been chosen. The jubilee ruble and the jubilee medal "100 years since the birth of V. I. Lenin" are completely different things. The ruble is not a medal in circulation as a coin!
  11. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 23 October 2015 16: 00
    +1
    Quote: SMS
    The German general staff and American bankers (Jacob Schiff and others) supplied your Ilyich with one purpose to destroy Russia. It was not he who overthrew the emperor, he simply gave an order to destroy him and his CHILDREN!

    My dear man, during the destruction of the royal family V.I. Lenin did not issue this kind of order. It was the idea of ​​Trotsky (by the way an ardent Russophobe).
    1. SMS
      SMS 23 October 2015 16: 14
      -7
      Have you been there?
      1. MrK
        MrK 24 October 2015 23: 19
        +1
        Quote: SMS
        Quote: SMS
        The German general staff and American bankers (Jacob Schiff and others) supplied your Ilyich with one purpose to destroy Russia. It was not he who overthrew the emperor, he simply gave an order to destroy him and his CHILDREN!


        You read comments and are amazed. Well, colleagues, as much as you can. How much can one listen to these liberals - thieves and their podkulakniks.
        Marxism was spat on, Leninism was tattered. Socialism and communism were bombarded with dog shit. Now capitalism does not like. Question. Maybe that's why the guys in Russia are increasingly reading books on the RADICAL ISLAM and go to fight in ISIS?
        Maybe because it left the only, but imaginary, window for justice. But before they believed in communism. Because the main idea of ​​communist ideology is justice.
        In the absence of a normal ideology, the ever-increasing poverty of the population, the continued theft by the owners of SMS, youth themselves will go into radical Islam. And you spit on Lenin. In whose mill do you pour water, Mr. SMSnik? Incidentally, I am not a communist.
        ABOUT GERMAN WERE OF LENIN.
        The famous English intelligence officer George Hill in his autobiographical book “My Spying Life” tells who made fake documents about the financing of the Bolsheviks by the Germans. Hill spent almost two years in revolutionary Russia, beginning in the summer of 1917. He was an ardent anti-communist and participated in several conspiracies against Soviet power. So there is no reason to suspect Hill of sympathizing with the Bolsheviks.
        And the initiator of the legend that the Bolsheviks, in particular Lenin, were agents of Germany, according to Hill, was the Minister of Arms of France Albert Thom, and the developer and executor was the captain of the French intelligence, Pierre Laurent. He then propagated in the summer of 1917 the idea of ​​the Germans using the Bolsheviks and Lenin personally as "paid German agents." The head of the counterintelligence of the Provisional Government, Boris Nikitin, helped him disseminate this information.
        Do not read the liberal press at least before lunch, Mr. SMS. You’ll be healthier. respectfully
  12. Gardamir
    Gardamir 23 October 2015 16: 44
    13
    For us, the inhabitants of today's Russia, the main traitor is Boris Nikolaevich, who, with a stroke of his pen, crossed out many Russian lands, leaving only the former RSFSR. By the way, in memory of the destruction of Russia, traitors celebrate on June 12.
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 23 October 2015 18: 18
      +4
      Quote: Gardamir
      For us, the inhabitants of today's Russia, the main traitor is Boris Nikolaevich,


      Borka is one of the main traitors ...
  13. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 23 October 2015 17: 59
    +1
    It would be necessary to do this medal on a slice of an aspen hemp, by burning. At the same time and
    saving on silver.
  14. Bayonet
    Bayonet 23 October 2015 19: 40
    +9
    Peter I in 1714 introduced the medal "For Drunkenness". The medal was an eight-pointed cast-iron star the size of a small plate. Such a "star" pulled 17 pounds (7,7 kg). It is clear that such a reward cannot be attached to clothes, therefore the medal was fastened by means of a chain to a metal hoop, which was riveted tightly on the neck of the lucky-awarded. The newly-minted gentleman was even forced to sleep with a medal. The total weight of the award, complete with a chain and a hoop, reached 10-12 kg. It was supposed to wear a medal for a week. Cool, oh cool was sovereign Peter Alekseevich! Among the awarded were both people of lower classes and representatives of noble families. In some taverns, poor fellow awarded this medal, one glass of vodka (60 ml) was poured for free. According to some sources, not one surname is found twice in the list of awarded. Apparently acted! smile
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 25 October 2015 12: 23
      0
      Quote: Bayonet
      Peter I in 1714 introduced the medal "For Drunkenness". The medal was an eight-pointed cast-iron star the size of a small plate. Such a "star" pulled 17 pounds (7,7 kg). It is clear that such a reward cannot be attached to clothes, therefore the medal was fastened by means of a chain to a metal hoop, which was riveted tightly on the neck of the lucky-awarded. The newly-minted gentleman was even forced to sleep with a medal. The total weight of the award, complete with a chain and a hoop, reached 10-12 kg. It was supposed to wear a medal for a week. Cool, oh cool was sovereign Peter Alekseevich! Among the awarded were both people of lower classes and representatives of noble families. In some taverns, poor fellow awarded this medal, one glass of vodka (60 ml) was poured for free. According to some sources, not one surname is found twice in the list of awarded. Apparently acted! smile

      Petruhu, Petruhu Waltzman to award her !!! And not for a week, but for now, pretending to be president !!!
  15. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 23 October 2015 19: 50
    +2
    Quote: Mama_Cholli
    Quote: SMS
    The German general staff and American bankers (Jacob Schiff and others) supplied your Ilyich with one purpose to destroy Russia. It was not he who overthrew the emperor, he simply gave an order to destroy him and his CHILDREN!

    My dear man, during the destruction of the royal family V.I. Lenin did not issue this kind of order. It was the idea of ​​Trotsky (by the way an ardent Russophobe).

    Maybe I'm wrong, I think ---- this is Sverdlov. (Or like him) I had his collected essays with comments, released in the 60s. Horror! And in the comments praise and words about the timely publication! Here! Thank God, the Lord took care and cleaned it up early, otherwise it would have been he did evil. The real demon and Judah.
  16. roskot
    roskot 23 October 2015 19: 50
    +4
    The first traitor. Mazepa in all its glory.
  17. Old warrior
    Old warrior 23 October 2015 20: 02
    +3
    Yes, "cavaliers" of the Judas Medal, we have plenty ...
  18. EVIL KOLORAD
    EVIL KOLORAD 23 October 2015 20: 22
    +2
    Quote: Bayonet
    Peter I in 1714 introduced the medal "For Drunkenness". The medal was an eight-pointed cast-iron star the size of a small plate. Such a "star" pulled 17 pounds (7,7 kg). It is clear that such a reward cannot be attached to clothes, therefore the medal was fastened by means of a chain to a metal hoop, which was riveted tightly on the neck of the lucky-awarded. The newly-minted gentleman was even forced to sleep with a medal. The total weight of the award, complete with a chain and a hoop, reached 10-12 kg. It was supposed to wear a medal for a week. Cool, oh cool was sovereign Peter Alekseevich! Among the awarded were both people of lower classes and representatives of noble families. In some taverns, poor fellow awarded this medal, one glass of vodka (60 ml) was poured for free. According to some sources, not one surname is found twice in the list of awarded. Apparently acted! smile

    This is only in FAVORITES ... +++++
  19. EVIL KOLORAD
    EVIL KOLORAD 23 October 2015 20: 24
    +2
    Mazepa-Judah ... and the current Ukrian junta, starting from Valtsman, Pisya, Avakyan ... and so on - these are the descendants of Judah ...
  20. rus-5819
    rus-5819 23 October 2015 21: 49
    0
    The calculating hetman relied on a stronger, as it seemed to him, political player

    It reminds something in the history of modern Ukraine ...

    Just how it ended ... is also known.

    The Russian Ministry of Defense expressed a humorous intention to award the “Order” of Judah Anton Gerashchenko,

    And picking him up is not a problem.
  21. maximka
    maximka 23 October 2015 22: 15
    +2
    Lackeys are the eternal of Europe,
    Her spiritual slaves
    You perverted paternal experience
    And ancestors betrayed coffins.

    By the whim of a bad serf,
    Servants of other people's ideas,
    You have become a cattle of Europe
    You love whistling whips.

    You betrayed Russia a hundredfold,
    Alien - entrusted - the mind.
    Rus forgive you, but back
    Pulling your neck to the yoke.

    Mile to you - a foreign land.
    And you are destined because
    To know the will ... only the master
    And forever bow to him.
  22. Diter
    Diter 23 October 2015 22: 46
    +1
    Quote: nils
    You’ll answer for the collapse of Russia ...

    You are a naive person.
    Under this system of oligarchic capitalism, the guarantor of which is the Supreme Guarantor, these copies are the most honorable members of the "elite society", awarded the highest awards of the Russian state.
    List of Knights of the Order "For Merit to the Fatherland" I degree:
    Yeltsin, Medvedev, Fradkov, Kuchma, Luzhkov, Rostropovich, Chernomordin, Rossel, Mark Zakharov, Volchek, etc. A typical list of figures who have made a feasible contribution to ensuring human freedoms and rights, true patriots of "their" homeland.
    The list of full gentlemen of all 4 degrees of the Order of Merit for the Fatherland, which includes Chernomyrdin, Shaimiev, Rossel, Matvienko, Zubkov, Stroyev, Tsereteli, Mark Zakharov, Volchek, Plisetskaya, Tabakov, Solomin, Zeldin, Mikhalkov, Vishnevskaya, is quite touching. , Armored, Temirkanov.
    Indeed, it is possible to prove yourself in Russia mainly on the stage and for those elected in the Kremlin.
    If you take the nationalities of those awarded, the Russian nation is completely impoverished.
    Many thanks to the Jews that they, as in 1917, took upon themselves the main burden of the rule of Russia on the path of its movement into a brighter future.

    They also forgot such a "Hero of Russia" as Serdyukov.
    1. Just BB
      Just BB 24 October 2015 06: 21
      0
      This thief, and stupid - his theft is akin to treason
  23. Old Siberian
    Old Siberian 24 October 2015 08: 54
    +1
    I would have sentenced such to life execution .... from a slingshot in the balls.