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Bulgaria still entrusted the repair of its MiGs to Polish craftsmen

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Despite the protests of both Russian and Bulgarian specialists, Sofia still signed an agreement with Warsaw on the repair of Russian-made MiG-29 aircraft on Thursday, reports Look with reference to the Ministry of Defense of Bulgaria.




"Poland is the only country that has the ability to maintain and repair MiG-29 aircraft",
noted the press service of the Ministry.

“The agreement provides for the repair of six engines and the temporary (for two years) use of two Polish engines. The cost of repairing each of the engines will be 1,023 million euros, the Polish side assumes transportation costs, ”the release says.

Earlier, the general director of the MiG company, Sergei Korotkov, said on this occasion: “If the Bulgarian side signs an agreement with Poland to repair RD-33 engines installed on MiGs, we will have no choice but to refuse to maintain and maintain the technical operation of the aircraft MiG-29 Bulgarian Air Force.

“We regret that such a decision is made on the basis of considerations of a purely political situation and, most likely, is the result of pressure from outside,” said the general director.

The situation with the repair of machines is largely explained by the words of the Minister of Defense of Bulgaria, told by him in July: “We will do everything possible to reduce our dependence on Russia. Bulgaria is the only member of NATO, which is 90% dependent on Russia. It worries me a lot. ”

If you believe information from open sources, today the Bulgarian Air Force includes the 12 MiG-29 and two MiG-29UB.
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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 22 October 2015 17: 48 New
    13
    Тут в прибалтике у "Торнадо" бак подвесной давеча оторвался... Боюсь представить что "Мигами" у братушек приключится после пшекского то ремонта...
    1. fox21h
      fox21h 22 October 2015 17: 52 New
      24
      Yes, for God's sake, let them trust when they begin to fall, so that they do not begin to whine and make claims against us, especially since we warned them that we were not responsible
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 22 October 2015 18: 04 New
        14
        Quote: fox21h
        and make claims against us,

        We have no complaints. Then it’s like with a car: I turned to a third-party service - I took the guarantee.
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 22 October 2015 18: 11 New
          33
          И это специально делается "хозяевами", что бы мирно убить самолёты ВВС болгарии и впаривать свои!
          1. Sober
            Sober 22 October 2015 18: 35 New
            +7
            That's right, dear!
            1. severniy
              severniy 22 October 2015 22: 20 New
              0
              karoch amen ... crying
              current technology is a pity ... request
          2. hydrox
            hydrox 22 October 2015 18: 45 New
            +3
            Quote: Baikonur
            that would peacefully kill the Bulgarian Air Force planes and vparivat their own!

            You know, after such statements by the Minister of Defense, it’s somehow not at all a pity if everyone starts to fall. Well this is what a villain you need to be in order to publicly voice such a bestial attitude towards YOUR pilots!
          3. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 22 October 2015 19: 03 New
            +4
            Quote: Baikonur
            И это специально делается "хозяевами", that would peacefully kill the Bulgarian Air Force planes and vparivat their!

            And the most interesting thing is why do we, here, see and understand this, but in Bulgaria no one sees or understands? Are they also fumigated with something there or sprayed from an airplane? Simple things ...
            1. mark2
              mark2 22 October 2015 19: 40 New
              +2
              Интересная постановка вопроса) А много ли мы видим "не того" у нас и многие ли из нас открыто про это указывает Правителям?) Как тут молчаливое большинство "хатакраюшников" так и там. Тут хвост виляет собакой, так и там. После "демократических" выборов мнение народа никого не интересует. Как Министр, Президент, Губернатор решит, так и будет!!
            2. Bayonet
              Bayonet 22 October 2015 19: 57 New
              +3
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              And the most interesting - why do we, here, see and understand this, but in Bulgaria no one sees or understands?

              The most interesting thing is that it excites us more than the Bulgarians. smile
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 22 October 2015 23: 58 New
                +3
                Bayonet (5)
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                And the most interesting - why do we, here, see and understand this, but in Bulgaria no one sees or understands?
                The most interesting thing is that it excites us more than the Bulgarians. smile
                This worries us because it poses a threat to the national security of the Russian Federation.
                Bulgaria is a member of NATO - and not the fact that these same MiGs will not be used against Russia.
                Indeed, the During the repair and maintenance of MiGs in Bulgaria, the Russian side between Bulgaria and the Russian Federation provided for close production contacts and the maintenance of mutually beneficial and friendly relations between Bulgaria and the Russian Federation, which would otherwise decline.
                Namely. With the transfer of MiG repair services to the Polish side, a NATO member, firstly, Bulgaria’s trade contacts with Russia are waning. This is a conscious US policy of isolating the Russian Federation from European countries. And secondly, the quality of scheduled preventive maintenance of MiGs by the Poles is significantly worse than the quality of repair by the Russian side, which is reflected in a decrease in the terms of scheduled preventive repair of aircraft - from 6 years to 2 years, respectively. Therefore, there is no long-term economic effect for the Bulgarians. All this exposes the Bulgarians in the fact that this share of the Bulgarians is tied not so much to the economy as to a purely political character - and AGAINST Russia.
                Thus, in Bulgaria there is a creeping process of reassigning the Bulgarian Armed Forces under the dense wing of NATO.
          4. marlin1203
            marlin1203 22 October 2015 19: 13 New
            0
            А откуда у Болгарии деньги на "не свои" самолеты? Тем более f-35 laughing
          5. Garris199
            Garris199 22 October 2015 20: 06 New
            0
            Bulgarians are poor, they don’t have enough money to buy state planes. Only if it’s bad.
            1. asiat_61
              asiat_61 23 October 2015 04: 34 New
              0
              Transaero also bought all the scrap metal from Africa and all sorts of islands. There was no plane younger than 20 years old.
        2. Tatyana
          Tatyana 22 October 2015 18: 13 New
          +6
          Quote from the article
          Earlier, MiG CEO Sergey Korotkov stated in this regard: “If the Bulgarian side signs an agreement with Poland on the repair of RD-33 engines installed on MiGs, we will have no choice but to refuse to escort and maintain the technical operation of MiG-29 airplanes of the Bulgarian Air Force. ”
          Russia does not need to talk about the refusal to repair MiGs, namely, DO IT.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 22 October 2015 18: 15 New
            +4
            Quote from the article
            ... the words of the Minister of Defense of Bulgaria ...: “We will do our best to reduce our dependence on Russia. Bulgaria is the only NATO member that depends on Russia at 90%. It really bothers me. ”
            In Russia, there is a proverb - "Baba with a cart - cart is easier!" hi
            So do not miss the LORD Bulgarians with NATO “cheapness”! bully
            1. Oman 47
              Oman 47 22 October 2015 22: 38 New
              0
              Есть и другая пословица: "Баба с возу - волки сыты" belay
              IN ANY of the three possible scenarios ...
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 22 October 2015 19: 08 New
            +8
            Quote: Tatiana
            Russia does not need to talk about the refusal to repair MiGs, namely, DO IT.

            Главное - потом не пожалеть таких, матьихузаногу, "братушек". А то про Юкрейн тоже много чего говорили - а и газ давали, и уголь давали, и электроэнергию давали, которая у них "растаможку не прошла"... Они в нас плюнут - а мы им "нате"! "Жалко же, ЛЮДИ мёрзнут"... А мне почему-то, не жалко... Пусть на Майдане попрыгают, погреются... And these MiGs will begin to fall - they will regret it, the ensigns from the TEC with their magic suitcases will be sent ... negative
        3. mark2
          mark2 22 October 2015 19: 36 New
          0
          По логике претензий быть не должно. Но они будут, если после польского ремонта МиГи вдруг начнут или не начнут летать не так как-то.. И пропагандистская машина Запада на весь мир будет трещать что мол у "русских самолеты плохи, покупайте Ф-16 лохи". Даже если все будут знать, что Россия ни при чем, один фиг она будет виновата. Потому как такой политический момент
        4. APASUS
          APASUS 22 October 2015 20: 01 New
          0
          Quote: GRAY
          Quote: fox21h
          and make claims against us,

          We have no complaints. Then it’s like with a car: I turned to a third-party service - I took the guarantee.

          So this should take place not as news, but automatically. The Poles not only do not have a MIG license, but do not make a repair kit.
      2. Kenji
        Kenji 22 October 2015 18: 09 New
        +2
        And to us, what claims, repair on the side once decided to do then all claims to those who repaired and serviced. Correctly Korotkov said if we refuse technical support for Bulgarian aircraft.
        1. kuz363
          kuz363 22 October 2015 18: 35 New
          +5
          And do not give parts to Poland if asked
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 22 October 2015 18: 47 New
            +2
            kuz363 (1)
            And do not give parts to Poland if asked

            Be sure to do just that!
            This, in particular, is the essence of the refusal to repair MiGs from the Russian side.
          2. Bayonet
            Bayonet 22 October 2015 20: 00 New
            +1
            Quote: kuz363
            And do not give parts to Poland if asked

            Запчасти вообще то не дают, а продают и не плохо на этом зарабатывают. Если у производителей денег куры не клюют - можно и "не давать".
      3. Jatviag
        Jatviag 22 October 2015 18: 14 New
        -7
        Poland has upgraded its MiG-29 and is serving them. There are no problems with them.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 22 October 2015 19: 36 New
          +3
          Poland has upgraded many things ... By the way, what kind of crap is this?
          R.S. Stole from the censor.


          1. mark2
            mark2 22 October 2015 19: 48 New
            +3
            Как что за хрень? Там же написано CONCEPT PL-01. это будущий основной танк польских войск. Представлен на публику в 2013 году, завершит испытания в следущем. выпускаться будет в 18 году. Итеет 3 члена экипажа, +3-4 пехотинца в качестве пассажиров. Башня тоже как у "Арматы" необитаемая и дистанционно управляемая. масса 30-35 тонн в зависимости от навесных панелей. пушка 105 или 120 мм броня керамо-арамидная. В общем дизайнерский такой танчик.
            1. whiteeagle
              whiteeagle 22 October 2015 23: 58 New
              0
              It was just a project. As before, this tank:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef7XvldXhhA

              or this project also has little chance of implementation

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-wCiuQtbdo
            2. Maxom75
              Maxom75 23 October 2015 10: 08 New
              0
              Вот интересно, если ему каток разобьёт, ремонт будет очень "простой"? Сначала снять всю защиту, потом поменять каток, потом вернуть всё на место. И вес в 35 тн удивляет.
            3. APASUS
              APASUS 23 October 2015 21: 56 New
              0
              Quote: mark2
              Башня тоже как у "Арматы" необитаемая и дистанционно управляемая. масса 30-35 тонн в зависимости от навесных панелей. пушка 105 или 120 мм броня керамо-арамидная.

              You can imagine what kind of problems this design tool will have with barrel cooling ........ not only scoundrels came up with this, but they did not solve the cooling problem
          2. Reducer
            Reducer 23 October 2015 12: 41 New
            0
            "...Кстати, что это за хрень?..."
            Star wars seen enough
      4. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 22 October 2015 18: 59 New
        +4
        Quote: fox21h
        Yes, for God's sake, let them trust when they begin to fall, so that they do not begin to whine and make claims against us, especially since we warned them that we were not responsible

        Surprisingly - Bulgarians fly, repair Psheks, and if they fall, we will be to blame ...

        I read it recently - a man complained that he had brought Bosh tools to an authorized service center and changed the gearbox for 2tyr. And they say to him - you, in addition, the cable is damaged (actually damaged). Either 1,5 tyr, or no repair at all. But without a guarantee - in any gateway. Only when the electric current blows you, we are not to blame ... A man in a scream - why are they imposing services on me here, replace the gearbox, and I myself ... And they in Bosh say either we are responsible for the repair in full, or do where you want and answer yourself. That's the manufacturer’s service ...

        К чему это я? Дык к тому, что ладно бы болгары денег "в подворотне" съэкономили, так нет - тупо не хочут, потому что не в американской струе получится. Expensive, crooked - but without Russia! Ukraine won nuclear fuel all the same decided to buy in America. Well, well, the happy sequel of Chernobyl ... But not in Russia ...
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 22 October 2015 21: 25 New
          +3
          Well, well, a happy sequel Chernobyl disaster.

          God forbid ... there one exploded, and if the whole Zaporizhzhya in 6 reactors explode ???
          Little will not seem to anyone. Well, except maybe mattress covers.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 22 October 2015 22: 03 New
            +1
            Quote: PSih2097
            God forbid ... there one exploded, and if the whole Zaporizhzhya in 6 reactors explode ???
            Little will not seem to anyone. Well, except maybe mattress covers.

            So and I about that. Head, not fat, you need to think in Kuev, from whom to buy fuel for nuclear power plants. Then it will not explode.
          2. Camel
            Camel 22 October 2015 23: 30 New
            +1
            This is where the plus appeared! fellow Ukrov has no money to buy fuel elements at all. At least Russian, at least Amer’s - none at all! By the way, the Amer TVELs, although nothing in themselves, but in our design nuclear power plants die almost instantly, with the threat of destruction of the power unit. So ... blackout Ukraine wassat
            П.С. Да, а гарантийные сроки у "наших" ТВЭЛ подходят и правда к концу
      5. meriem1
        meriem1 22 October 2015 20: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: fox21h
        Yes, for God's sake, let them trust when they begin to fall, so that they do not begin to whine and make claims against us, especially since we warned them that we were not responsible


        And all!!! MIG warned. No claims after repair are accepted! It’s interesting that the Psheks get nibbled there ??? Put neon lights on the belly ??? laughing
        1. Oman 47
          Oman 47 22 October 2015 23: 17 New
          +3
          Aha
          Yet:
          1. The cabin is blacked out in a circular circle.
          2. Cut three turns of springs on the chassis.
          3. Stuck collective farm halogen.
          4. Powerful Mouzon with a sub in the trunk.
          5. Alloy (forged) wheels.
          6. Another 33 whistles-per.delki.

          Polish ARA tuning. what
          1. bastard
            bastard 23 October 2015 00: 01 New
            0
            Quote: Oman 47
            1. The cabin is blacked out in a circular circle.
            2. Cut three turns of springs on the chassis.
            3. Stuck collective farm halogen.
            4. Powerful Mouzon with a sub in the trunk.
            5. Alloy (forged) wheels.
            6. Another 33 whistles-per.delki.

            And looking for a leather interior and automatic transmission!
        2. Just BB
          Just BB 23 October 2015 06: 19 New
          0
          Зря Вы так "бело-красных" недооцениваете -(себя не уважать) - они в наш фюзеляж могут вставлять любое оборудование : нет санкций на использование западного оборудования и благодаря Советским конструкторами это в МИГ-29 легко осуществимо.
          Неплохой пример: модернизация "бело-красными" вертолета МИ-14 - весь комплекс противолодочного оборудования уместился в кейс с ноутбуком вместо хорошего шкафа (образца 1960-тых)
      6. Maxom75
        Maxom75 23 October 2015 01: 34 New
        +3
        Давно пора забыть про болгар. На редкость подлый народ, я порой думаю, что зря Российская империя, столько крови пролила своих лучших сынов освобождая эти "братушек" из под османского ига. Истребили бы их да "чёрт" с ними. Мы их от османов освободили, а они в первую мировую на стороне австрияков на нас напали, в Великую Отечественную Войну на стороне немцев, после распада Варшавского блока рванули в НАТО. Гнилой народец вот и сыплется у них страна и народ бежит в Германию, ВБ, Францию уже половина слиняла.
    2. kil 31
      kil 31 22 October 2015 17: 53 New
      +4
      “The agreement provides for the repair of six engines and temporary (for two years) use of two Polish engines
      29 has two engines. This means one aircraft for two years will be on the move.
    3. science fiction writer
      science fiction writer 22 October 2015 17: 57 New
      +1
      Yes, immediately in the trash would throw their Air Force less problems in the future bully
    4. Vyacheslav 64
      Vyacheslav 64 22 October 2015 18: 02 New
      +1
      Тут у "братушек" главное правило - лишь бы не Россия! На зло бабушке готовы уши отморозить.
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    7. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 22 October 2015 18: 18 New
      +2
      Balgars need to be punished in full so that they know the land and didn’t fall, although I’m talking of course not about the people, as always, he doesn’t have anything against Russia, there he has seized a handful of power and receives a salary in the State Department, so they need to be fully extended!
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 22 October 2015 18: 34 New
        +2
        Yes, they will fly normally.
    8. vovanpain
      vovanpain 22 October 2015 19: 45 New
      +8
      Well, the main brother will fall on his head, maybe then the brains will turn on.
    9. arane
      arane 22 October 2015 21: 22 New
      +5
      It is always easier for two prostitutes to find a common language
    10. victor
      victor 22 October 2015 22: 02 New
      0
      Yes, you have to rejoice - this is a real adversary, and in case of any conflict! You look at the history and actions of these relatives in their entire history as a state. People there sympathize with Russia, but it's like in the Donbass - the ATO fighters from central Ukraine seem to understand Donbass residents, but they are destroying everything here - houses, boiler houses, schools - even forests and plantings are being cut down so that in a year Donbass will become a desert. But for all that, they are very offended that they are hated here. Let the Poles in the garage play a trick, maybe after a dozen sorties or die, or write off the iron.
    11. whiteeagle
      whiteeagle 22 October 2015 23: 43 New
      -4
      ``Боюсь представить что "Мигами" у братушек приключится после пшекского то ремонта...``
      The Poles have more than 20 years of experience in servicing Mig 29 aircraft. They even upgraded these aircraft. Unlike Russia, there was no MiG 29 disaster in Poland (although there was a case of landing without a chassis). Interestingly, the Poles also offer Bulgaria modernization.
  2. RUSS
    RUSS 22 October 2015 17: 48 New
    +5
    Эх, "братушки" совсем вас прогнули.....
    1. rash12
      rash12 22 October 2015 17: 59 New
      12
      THESE JUDAS ARE ALREADY NOT THE FIRST RUSSIA TO BE THROWN, SO THIS IS ALREADY A SYSTEM.
      1. djqnbdjqnb
        djqnbdjqnb 22 October 2015 20: 04 New
        -2
        Quote: rash12
        THESE JUDAS ARE ALREADY NOT THE FIRST RUSSIA TO BE THROWN, SO THIS IS ALREADY A SYSTEM.

        Why, then, Judah? After all, it was said at the very beginning of the article:
        Quote: rash12
        Despite the protests of both Russian and Bulgarian experts

        Bulgarian experts were protesting! Why then immediately pour mud over the whole country? Or are you a mishandled Cossack to push us with the foreheads of the Bulgarians?
  3. svp67
    svp67 22 October 2015 17: 49 New
    +5
    Despite the protests of both Russian and Bulgarian experts, Sofia still signed an agreement with Warsaw on Thursday to repair Russian-made Mig-29 aircraft,
    Did someone expect something different from today's Bulgaria? It seems time to get used to. Well, let's wait and see what happens.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 22 October 2015 17: 56 New
      +8
      Quote: svp67
      Well, let's wait and see what happens.


      I remembered the joke ... the Bavarians bought AvtoVAZ and decided to release a BMW - a Zhiguli was leaving the assembly line ... they changed all the robot equipment; the engineers from Germany brought in a clap - a Zhiguli and a BMW were coming out of the assembly line ... the Germans were in aah, they already brought BMW car kits from Germany they simply collect them - a clap at the exit of a Zhiguli .. the former director and the head engineer of AvtoVAZ are standing on a hill — one to another - hands from the ass, hands from the ass, I told you the damn place ..
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  4. Thomas I do not believe40
    Thomas I do not believe40 22 October 2015 17: 50 New
    +5
    “Poland is the only country that has the ability to service and repair MiG-29 aircraft”
    And Russia (the main and main producer) so went to smoke something? fool
  5. gelezo47
    gelezo47 22 October 2015 17: 53 New
    +1
    "Братушек" поставили в позу и погрозили пальчиком...Теперь пшеки им наремонтируют...
    I don’t want about sad things ... crying
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 22 October 2015 17: 59 New
      +2
      "Poland is the only country that has the ability to maintain and repair MiG-29 aircraft",
      More about a single country. RF are not included in this system? I thought who produces the one and knows how to repair, it turned out who bought the product that he twists as he wants.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 22 October 2015 20: 06 New
        0
        Quote: keel 31
        More about a single country. RF are not included in this system?

        The only country other than the country of origin is Russia. Clear ? hi
    2. Penetrator
      Penetrator 22 October 2015 18: 14 New
      +3
      Quote: gelezo47
      Now they will repair the psheks ..

      Ага, за свои же деньги болгары лишатся своей истребительной авиации. Но, по сравнению с АЭС "Козлодуй" и "Южным потоком", это несущественная потеря. А скоро им и терять будет нечего. Ну, кроме цыган. Да и те, от такого цирка на конной тяге, откочуют в соседнюю Румынию.
  6. lukke
    lukke 22 October 2015 17: 55 New
    +3
    Maxim died - and to hell with him! ...
  7. atamankko
    atamankko 22 October 2015 17: 56 New
    +1
    And disasters do not even think of blaming Russia.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 22 October 2015 20: 08 New
      0
      Quote: atamankko
      And disasters do not even think of blaming Russia.

      And what, already? smile
  8. Denis DV
    Denis DV 22 October 2015 17: 57 New
    +4
    An interesting repair price, will they buy new ones in the Russian Federation? And the difference is in your pocket?
    27 lyam in rubles, if I'm not mistaken, a new one will cost hi
  9. bocsman
    bocsman 22 October 2015 17: 57 New
    +4
    And what are we worried about? They chose they answer. MIG voiced its position, withdrew responsibility. Well, there is still such a side with NATO will have fewer aircraft. And let the pilots know how their homeland loves them!
  10. bankirchik34
    bankirchik34 22 October 2015 17: 59 New
    0
    they will remake them in BMP wink
  11. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 22 October 2015 17: 59 New
    +4
    Kusim! The Russian man said and closed the spare parts warehouse.
  12. Das Boot
    Das Boot 22 October 2015 18: 00 New
    0
    The Psheks will friendlyly subcontract xoxlam in Zaporozhye or Lviv? laughing
  13. awersa
    awersa 22 October 2015 18: 01 New
    +3
    А что еще ожидать от этих псевдо "Братушек", которые всю жизнь завоеввывались другими, а когда отвоеввывались Россией опять от нее отворачивались???? - яркий пример политической проституции...
  14. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 22 October 2015 18: 10 New
    +2
    On this brief history of aviation in Bulgaria can be completed. Only kites and airships will remain. without spare parts.
    1. Aurum
      Aurum 22 October 2015 19: 58 New
      +1
      Her, they will send rubber ideas with ISIS
  15. mamont5
    mamont5 22 October 2015 18: 13 New
    +2
    А что им делать? Раз сказали "А", надо говорить и "Б". Они определились на чьей стороне будут в "споре". Тут не стоит возмущаться. Надо просто иметь ЭТО ввиду.
  16. red_october
    red_october 22 October 2015 18: 14 New
    +6
    Very good.

    Я могу понять позицию МиГа, от которого ушли хоть и небольшие но деньги, которые в условиях многолетнего недофинансирования (на фоне большого брата - "Сухого") были бы всегда кстати.

    But for the Bulgarian fighters, our soul should not hurt. Let them have the number of take-offs equal to the number of landings. God grant. Poland really like "единственная страна, которая имеет возможность обслуживать и ремонтировать самолеты МиГ-29", can significantly affect this rule.

    We have enough of our worries to count Bulgarian money as a whole country.
  17. Tartarine
    Tartarine 22 October 2015 18: 16 New
    +3
    Вот вам и "братушки" болгары ! Нет у нас братьев, ни по Родине, ни по матери !
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 23 October 2015 01: 59 New
      +1
      А "МАТЬ"в России на правительственном уровне пытаются запретить,правительству России больше заняться нечем.
  18. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 22 October 2015 18: 20 New
    +2
    It’s time to get used to it and not flatter ourselves at the expense of Bulgaria; it was constantly on the other side of the front.
  19. raid14
    raid14 22 October 2015 18: 23 New
    +2
    Были братушки, да все вышли, нет у нас братьев. Кто то за "лучшей долей" подался в ЕС и НАТО, последние "браты" нас на Майдане, на печеньки променяли.
  20. X Y Z
    X Y Z 22 October 2015 18: 26 New
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    No one will be surprised if the Polish repair they really become UB. Wojciech with a screwdriver will fix everything!
  21. Sober
    Sober 22 October 2015 18: 26 New
    0
    Well, like this! Seven feet to them under the keel!
    Passengers board the plane. There are no glasses in the portholes, there are not enough seats, they look around. From behind the bored door of the cockpit, the first pilot leaves. head in bandages, eye swam. He put the crutch aside: Well, suicide bombers, somersaults !?

    Sorry for the Polish pilots, after all.
  22. NDR-791
    NDR-791 22 October 2015 18: 27 New
    0
    “Poland is the only country that has the ability to service and repair MiG-29 aircraft”
    This is a frank nonsense !!! The Germans not only use them after our departure, but also how they can repair it. True, the Germans have a completely German repair price tag, while Poland has a slightly smaller one, probably Polish !!! Here is such a NATO - a cunning bug! Bulgaria did not even contact us for repairs after a gas collision, or maybe contacted, but they sent it to the same place where the gas pipeline was.
  23. Das Boot
    Das Boot 22 October 2015 18: 28 New
    +1
    Slid into brother-brother again. Guys, the 21st century is in the courtyard with all its charms, and you, as a consumptive moneylender, go, you collect all the bicentenary debts. By golly, they got it slightly with their retrospective grumbling.
    TWIMC, of ​​course.
  24. roskot
    roskot 22 October 2015 18: 29 New
    0
    The Bulgarian government has chosen its own path. Well, a fair wind. It is worth bothering because of them.
  25. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 22 October 2015 18: 30 New
    +4
    Ещё в "лихие 90-е" у нас в России, когда любой "кооператор" мог открыть СП...Короче: Открытие СП с поляками было равнозначно РОССИЙСКО-ЦЫГАНСКОМУ предприятию. Со всеми вытекающими. Пшеки- те ещё туфтачи и фармазоны, практически то, что болгары и им подобные скалы сейчас кушают. Мы это в то время выс...ли. А "братушки" сие выделенное жуют и договора какие-то заключают. Приятного аппетита! Они им авиатехнику наремонтируют...Из запчастей с исчерпанным ресурсом лет так 15 назад. Нам тоже пора ввести санкции на продажу узлов для авиахлама. Обрушится много "бизнесменов" из Восточной Европы- ФАКТ! Если болгары готовы платить валюту за ремонт как бы летающих аппаратов запчастями со списанной техники ( полякам взять новые дорого и негде), то "флаг в руки и барабан на шею" (с) . Насколько летабельна такая техника? Хозяин- барин. Если платит, значит лох!
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  27. serg1970
    serg1970 22 October 2015 18: 31 New
    +1
    Brothers laughed. It was necessary to turn to Ukraine! There would be no problems after the repair. In the absence of aircraft, as such.
  28. EVIL KOLORAD
    EVIL KOLORAD 22 October 2015 18: 45 New
    +3
    Bulgaria has once again confirmed that it is a political prostitute ...
  29. vell.65
    vell.65 22 October 2015 18: 46 New
    +3
    Yes, there are no bros and there were not, there are only partners in the interests.
  30. SIMM
    SIMM 22 October 2015 19: 10 New
    0
    Well, this is only at hand for us (their rejection of our weapons)
    Let them complete with the staff doctor’s
    1. flay
      flay 22 October 2015 19: 22 New
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      Not quite at hand. sad Since for export, there are cars with reduced performance, and on the salary of our workers it has no effect winked . Rather, it would not have affected. By and large, these (export) planes are also not the highest class, BUT they are paid for, and then they are also serviced, spare parts, technical staff training.
      Almost everything is the same as with your new car laughing if you observe all THAT, only the amounts are different. I think less cheating.
  31. flay
    flay 22 October 2015 19: 13 New
    0
    Bulgarian Minister of Defense said in July: “We will do our best to reduce our dependence on Russia. Bulgaria is the only NATO member that is 90% dependent on Russia. It really bothers me crying ».
    Well, it's not only bothering you. This worries McDonnell Douglas, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, and this is only in the aviation field. love

    “Poland is the only country bully , which has the ability to service and repair MiG-29 aircraft "Oops ...
    Does it all start small? Polska decided to service, repair the MiG-29, and as it develops, will it participate in the development of Eurofighter-2?
  32. Nymp
    Nymp 22 October 2015 19: 24 New
    0
    The policy of the new NATO warriors is very simple; let it be worse for us, but our spit in the direction of the Kremlin will not remain unnoticed by the owner, which means we will cut down the devants. Remember the jackal Tabaki in Mowgli! By the way, it’s even better for us to have no obligations to the jackal.
  33. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 22 October 2015 19: 38 New
    +1
    Bulgarians are degrading before our eyes. Soon, the regiment of the Main Russophobia will be recorded.

    Прямым текстом амерам сказали, что отказались от трех крупных инфраструктурных проектов (Южный поток в том числе) по их Указу; самолеты с гуманитарными грузами в Сирию не пропускают; от легального обслуживания самолетов отказались - и еще чего то хотят; ноют "we have the most expensive gas in Europe".

    "Tomorrow, in Brussels, a unique exhibition of donkeys will be held! The entrance is free. Everyone gathered ... They look at a friend ... Studying ... And then they still asked - where are the donkeys? ..." (Петросян, still young). laughing
  34. Senior manager
    Senior manager 22 October 2015 19: 40 New
    +1
    Honestly, they cried out screams about the corruption and prostitution of the Bulgarians, the ball is ruled by a team hired by a phishington. I think we need to distribute the gingerbread cookies according to belonging, and not smear people with shit.
  35. sisa29
    sisa29 22 October 2015 19: 51 New
    +1
    Возможно и хорошо что " братья " стали показывать свою сущность. Ведь вспомните нас воспитывали В детстве (70-80) на понятиях братские народы , интернациональный долг, помощь братьем в строительстве социализма. И мы честно помогали и деньгами и технологиями и силой. А сейчас наконец последний морок в понятии братские народы у нас спал с глаз. И это просто хорошо. Нет братьев у нас а есть их выгода и стремление присосатся к сиське по больше. Это наверное правильно? Зато и нас теперь не заставить спасать за идею интернационального долга "братьев"!
  36. Waroc
    Waroc 22 October 2015 19: 53 New
    0
    The government in the country is such as this very people chose, they did not pick up tea from the Varangians from the African government in Bulgaria — all of their own, the most Bulgarian boyfriends — who came out of this same Bulgarian people and now bear the wishes of all Bulgarians to politics !!!
  37. afrikanez
    afrikanez 22 October 2015 20: 08 New
    0
    Well, if so, then you are successful in flying Bulgarians. Sorry for you of course, but your government has decided so (you can say for you) fool
  38. _GSVG_
    _GSVG_ 22 October 2015 20: 20 New
    0
    А когда болгарский "МиГ", после польского ремонта ухайдокает жильцов какго-нибудь дома или просто граждан на улице(рухнет из-за неисправности), вся гейропа будет визжать, что это самолёт российского производства упал, Россия виновата, всем родственникам всех погибших обязана выплатить компенсацию.
  39. ASK505
    ASK505 22 October 2015 21: 01 New
    -1
    That special warmth for the supposedly “little brothers” in Bulgaria, which we absorbed with mother’s milk, is in fact little based on. On the contrary, the participation of this country in both world wars in coalitions hostile to Russia suggests that only Orthodoxy unites us, and even then conditionally. In today's world, common faith is not a sufficient basis for allied relations. An example of two World Wars.
    As, however, it was before. They say that when in the XIX century our troops passed through the liberated Bulgarian villages, the soldiers had to buy water from local residents in order to get drunk. Bulgarians never felt gratitude for their release - and one should not rebuke them for this. You just need to take note: they - such and others will not. And they do not want to be indebted to us, and do not consider themselves obligated to Russia.
  40. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 22 October 2015 21: 10 New
    +1
    Да, уж... Братушки, братья-славяне...Только что-то во время обеих мировых войн были "по другую сторону". И сейчас так и пыжатся, стараются "понравится новым хозяевам". Холопские замашки...
  41. veksha50
    veksha50 22 October 2015 21: 49 New
    +2
    "«Польша является the only country, которая имеет возможность обслуживать и ремонтировать самолеты МиГ-29»"...

    Well, yes, yes ... But Russia and the Russian MIG corporation do not have such an opportunity ...

    P.S. Еще месяц назад представителем корпорации МИГ было заявлено, что Польше не продадут не то что ни одного узла, а даже ржавой гайки... Так что пусть поляки ремонтируют, болгары-"братушки" - летают... по американским горкам...
  42. xoma58
    xoma58 22 October 2015 22: 16 New
    0
    Да и хорошо. Чем скорее угробят самолёты тем лучше. Пора забыть про этих турецко подданных, как говорил Остап Бендер. "Не брат ты мне, ...."
  43. Chak
    Chak 22 October 2015 22: 36 New
    0
    Has Pshekistansk not gone ??? Bulgarians - Psheks, bhai-bhai!
  44. Navy7981
    Navy7981 22 October 2015 22: 50 New
    0
    Придёт день, а он обязательно придёт, когда опять возникнет необходимость спасать или просто помогать болгарам. Интересно, кого они будут просить об этом. Жаль. Все почему то считают, что ни за что платить не надо - ошибка. Платить рано или поздно приходится за всё. За подлость, за предательство, за хитрозадость, за "подарки". Вот, что получила Болгария за своё предательство. Речь не о народе, о политическом истеблишменте! Но кто, даже из наших упырей живёт счастливо? Те кто вдохновенно в свете перемен решил, что вот оно бабло-счастье!
  45. faterdom
    faterdom 22 October 2015 23: 00 New
    +1
    Why should the Poles pay? Indeed, in Bulgaria there are a lot of gypsies, and they could sign an agreement to repair the MIG-29 even cheaper and more profitable for the Bulgarian Air Force. After all, they can even turn a half-dead horse in a small camp in half an hour into a well-fed and vigorous one, and even a plane ... easily.
  46. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 22 October 2015 23: 06 New
    +1
    Here, on a military review, something the Bulgarians undertook to strive to laugh at the Poles. But one
    we don’t notice a simple thing. Poland, recently very much strengthens its position in the defense market
    industry! MANPADS Thunder complex, Tward’s tank, a large number of concepts of military equipment and weapons!
    Moreover, they work successfully both by our standards and by NATO. So they can, and there is a desire!
    But we should think. Perhaps this is not a political issue, but rather an economic one! Well maybe
    Poles provide reasonable quality at a low price! And well done. After all, MiG-type aircraft
    in Bulgaria there are not many, and the amount of the contract is likely to be small. The concern is that if
    the Poles will fulfill this contract successfully, and other machine operators can turn to them!
    Competition, damn it!
    1. Oman 47
      Oman 47 22 October 2015 23: 40 New
      +1
      Sorry, but MANPADS Thunder and tank Tward pshek already SUCCESSFULLY SELL?
      The question is without jokes, it’s just interesting: an advertising announcement or a fait accompli.
  47. Pimply
    Pimply 22 October 2015 23: 12 New
    0
    More than a reasonable move on the part of Bulgaria in the current situation (someone suggested something different, given Bulgaria’s membership in NATO)?
    In addition, a number of countries have learned to repair - and to repair qualitatively - and upgrade MIGs a long time ago. Poland, Israel, Germany
  48. Andrey Draganov
    Andrey Draganov 22 October 2015 23: 14 New
    +1
    Bulgarians behave like regular props.
  49. glavnykarapuz
    glavnykarapuz 23 October 2015 01: 43 New
    +1
    Here, many examples of machines lead or their favorite punch (hello, man-punch! wink ).
    Только те, кто такие примеры приводят, забывают одну вещь - с машинами и всяческой бытовой техникой, ТО имеют право заниматься и сторонние организации. Да и ТО в обычно заключается в чем? сменить масла, фильтра, колодки, проверить люфты - короче ничего экстраординарного, любая мастерская(да и сам владелец при умении) с хорошим оснащением вполне справится и никто, кроме завода-изготовителя его гарантии лишить не может(ни "дилеры-шмиллеры", ни сервисные центры) и то, только после того, как через экспертизу докажет, что владелец вместо масла заливал гудрон или сливочное масло(или явную подделку), фильтра использовал из сложенной в 2 раза марли и прочий хлам вместо расходников.
    Но специфичные и ОЧЕНЬ сложные изделия военного назначения никто, кроме завода-изготовителя не может производить замену, юстировку и прочее, т.к. многие применяемые при этом детали изготавливаются из секретных сплавов(по секретным же технологиям) и применяют весьма нетривиальную оснастку для этого. И, как с машинами и прочей бытовой техникой, спецификации изделий и технологические данные и лицензии для производства куче заводов производителей комплектующих не распространяются (сколько можно купить качественных неоригинальных запчастей на машины? - огромное количество). Но с военными самолетами это никак не применимо - просто уровни технологий и требования к качеству работ другие( да и секретами никто так просто "разбазариваться" не будет).
  50. Medvedb
    Medvedb 23 October 2015 02: 46 New
    0
    Ну вот теперь буду боятся, что такая чудесная машина, может на голову упасть, после "мастерского" обслуживания.