Bulgaria still entrusted the repair of its MiGs to Polish craftsmen

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Despite the protests of both Russian and Bulgarian specialists, Sofia still signed an agreement with Warsaw on the repair of Russian-made MiG-29 aircraft on Thursday, reports Look with reference to the Ministry of Defense of Bulgaria.



"Poland is the only country that has the ability to maintain and repair MiG-29 aircraft",
noted the press service of the Ministry.

“The agreement provides for the repair of six engines and the temporary (for two years) use of two Polish engines. The cost of repairing each of the engines will be 1,023 million euros, the Polish side assumes transportation costs, ”the release says.

Earlier, the general director of the MiG company, Sergei Korotkov, said on this occasion: “If the Bulgarian side signs an agreement with Poland to repair RD-33 engines installed on MiGs, we will have no choice but to refuse to maintain and maintain the technical operation of the aircraft MiG-29 Bulgarian Air Force.

“We regret that such a decision is made on the basis of considerations of a purely political situation and, most likely, is the result of pressure from outside,” said the general director.

The situation with the repair of machines is largely explained by the words of the Minister of Defense of Bulgaria, told by him in July: “We will do everything possible to reduce our dependence on Russia. Bulgaria is the only member of NATO, which is 90% dependent on Russia. It worries me a lot. ”

If you believe information from open sources, today the Bulgarian Air Force includes the 12 MiG-29 and two MiG-29UB.
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  1. +13
    22 October 2015 17: 48
    Here in the Baltic States near the "Tornado" tank suspended just now came off ... I'm afraid to imagine that "Migami" will happen to the brothers after the Pshek repair ...
    1. +24
      22 October 2015 17: 52
      Yes, for God's sake, let them trust when they begin to fall, so that they do not begin to whine and make claims against us, especially since we warned them that we were not responsible
      1. +14
        22 October 2015 18: 04
        Quote: fox21h
        and make claims against us,

        We have no complaints. Then it’s like with a car: I turned to a third-party service - I took the guarantee.
        1. +33
          22 October 2015 18: 11
          And this is specially done by the "owners" in order to peacefully kill the planes of the Bulgarian Air Force and sell their own!
          1. +7
            22 October 2015 18: 35
            That's right, dear!
            1. 0
              22 October 2015 22: 20
              karoch amen ... crying
              current technology is a pity ... request
          2. +3
            22 October 2015 18: 45
            Quote: Baikonur
            that would peacefully kill the Bulgarian Air Force planes and vparivat their own!

            You know, after such statements by the Minister of Defense, it’s somehow not at all a pity if everyone starts to fall. Well this is what a villain you need to be in order to publicly voice such a bestial attitude towards YOUR pilots!
          3. +4
            22 October 2015 19: 03
            Quote: Baikonur
            And this is specially done by the "owners" that would peacefully kill the Bulgarian Air Force planes and vparivat their!

            And the most interesting - why do we, here, see and understand this, but in Bulgaria no one sees or understands? Are they also fumigated with something there or sprayed from an airplane? Simple things ...
            1. +2
              22 October 2015 19: 40
              An interesting formulation of the question) And how much do we see "the wrong thing" with us and how many of us openly point out to the rulers about it?) Like the silent majority of the "khatakrayushniks" here. Here the tail wags the dog, and there. After "democratic" elections nobody cares about the opinion of the people. As the Minister, the President, the Governor decides, so it will be !!
            2. +3
              22 October 2015 19: 57
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              And the most interesting - why do we, here, see and understand this, but in Bulgaria no one sees or understands?

              The most interesting thing is that it excites us more than the Bulgarians. smile
              1. +3
                22 October 2015 23: 58
                Bayonet (5)
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                And the most interesting - why do we, here, see and understand this, but in Bulgaria no one sees or understands?
                The most interesting thing is that it excites us more than the Bulgarians. smile
                This worries us because it poses a threat to the national security of the Russian Federation.
                Bulgaria is a member of NATO - and not the fact that these same MiGs will not be used against Russia.
                Indeed, the During the repair and maintenance of MiGs in Bulgaria, the Russian side between Bulgaria and the Russian Federation provided for close production contacts and the maintenance of mutually beneficial and friendly relations between Bulgaria and the Russian Federation, which would otherwise decline.
                Namely. With the transfer of MiG repair services to the Polish side, a NATO member, firstly, Bulgaria’s trade contacts with Russia are waning. This is a conscious US policy of isolating the Russian Federation from European countries. And secondly, the quality of scheduled preventive maintenance of MiGs by the Poles is significantly worse than the quality of repair by the Russian side, which is reflected in a decrease in the terms of scheduled preventive repair of aircraft - from 6 years to 2 years, respectively. Therefore, there is no long-term economic effect for the Bulgarians. All this exposes the Bulgarians in the fact that this share of the Bulgarians is tied not so much to the economy as to a purely political character - and AGAINST Russia.
                Thus, in Bulgaria there is a creeping process of reassigning the Bulgarian Armed Forces under the dense wing of NATO.
          4. 0
            22 October 2015 19: 13
            And where does Bulgaria get the money for "not its own" planes? Especially f-35 laughing
          5. 0
            22 October 2015 20: 06
            Bulgarians are poor, they don’t have enough money to buy state planes. Only if it’s bad.
            1. 0
              23 October 2015 04: 34
              Transaero also bought all the scrap metal from Africa and all sorts of islands. There was no plane younger than 20 years old.
        2. +6
          22 October 2015 18: 13
          Quote from the article
          Earlier, MiG CEO Sergey Korotkov stated in this regard: “If the Bulgarian side signs an agreement with Poland on the repair of RD-33 engines installed on MiGs, we will have no choice but to refuse to escort and maintain the technical operation of MiG-29 airplanes of the Bulgarian Air Force. ”
          Russia does not need to talk about the refusal to repair MiGs, namely, DO IT.
          1. +4
            22 October 2015 18: 15
            Quote from the article
            ... the words of the Minister of Defense of Bulgaria ...: “We will do our best to reduce our dependence on Russia. Bulgaria is the only NATO member that depends on Russia at 90%. It really bothers me. ”
            In Russia, there is a proverb - "Baba with a cart - cart is easier!" hi
            So do not miss the LORD Bulgarians with NATO “cheapness”! bully
            1. 0
              22 October 2015 22: 38
              There is another proverb: "A woman with a cart - the wolves are fed" belay
              IN ANY of the three possible scenarios ...
          2. +8
            22 October 2015 19: 08
            Quote: Tatiana
            Russia does not need to talk about the refusal to repair MiGs, namely, DO IT.

            The main thing is not to feel sorry for such, motherikhuzanogu, "brothers" later. And then they also said a lot about Ukraine - and they gave gas, and coal, and gave electricity, which they "did not pass customs clearance" ... They will spit at us - and we give them "here"! "It's a pity, PEOPLE are freezing" ... But for some reason, I don't mind ... Let them jump on the Maidan, get warm ... And these MiGs will begin to fall - they will regret it, the ensigns from the TEC with their magic suitcases will be sent ... negative
        3. 0
          22 October 2015 19: 36
          Logically, there should be no complaints. But they will be, if after the Polish repair MiGs suddenly start or do not start flying in a wrong way .. And the propaganda machine of the West will crackle all over the world saying that "Russian planes are bad, buy F-16 fuckers." Even if everyone knows that Russia has nothing to do with it, one fig she will be to blame. Because such a political moment
        4. 0
          22 October 2015 20: 01
          Quote: GRAY
          Quote: fox21h
          and make claims against us,

          We have no complaints. Then it’s like with a car: I turned to a third-party service - I took the guarantee.

          So this should take place not as news, but automatically. The Poles not only do not have a MIG license, but do not make a repair kit.
      2. +2
        22 October 2015 18: 09
        And to us, what claims, repair on the side once decided to do then all claims to those who repaired and serviced. Correctly Korotkov said if we refuse technical support for Bulgarian aircraft.
        1. +5
          22 October 2015 18: 35
          And do not give parts to Poland if asked
          1. +2
            22 October 2015 18: 47
            kuz363 (1)
            And do not give parts to Poland if asked

            Be sure to do just that!
            This, in particular, is the essence of the refusal to repair MiGs from the Russian side.
          2. +1
            22 October 2015 20: 00
            Quote: kuz363
            And do not give parts to Poland if asked

            Spare parts generally do not give, but they sell and make good money on it. If the chickens do not peck at the producers of money, it is possible and "not to give".
      3. -7
        22 October 2015 18: 14
        Poland has upgraded its MiG-29 and is serving them. There are no problems with them.
        1. +3
          22 October 2015 19: 36
          Poland has upgraded many things ... By the way, what kind of crap is this?
          R.S. Stole from the censor.


          1. +3
            22 October 2015 19: 48
            What the fuck is that? CONCEPT PL-01 is also written there. this is the future main tank of the Polish troops. Introduced to the public in 2013, will complete testing next year. will be released in 18. There are 3 crew members, + 3-4 infantrymen as passengers. The tower is also uninhabited and remotely controlled, like that of the "Armata". weight 30-35 tons depending on the hinged panels. gun 105 or 120 mm ceramic-aramid armor. In general, such a designer tank.
            1. 0
              22 October 2015 23: 58
              It was just a project. As before, this tank:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef7XvldXhhA

              or this project also has little chance of implementation

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-wCiuQtbdo
            2. 0
              23 October 2015 10: 08
              I wonder if he breaks the rink, the repair will be very "simple"? First remove all protection, then change the roller, then put everything back in place. And the weight of 35 tons is surprising.
            3. 0
              23 October 2015 21: 56
              Quote: mark2
              The tower is also uninhabited and remotely controlled, like that of the "Armata". weight 30-35 tons depending on the hinged panels. gun 105 or 120 mm ceramic-aramid armor.

              You can imagine what kind of problems this design tool will have with barrel cooling ........ not only scoundrels came up with this, but they did not solve the cooling problem
          2. 0
            23 October 2015 12: 41
            "... By the way, what the hell is this? ..."
            Star wars seen enough
      4. +4
        22 October 2015 18: 59
        Quote: fox21h
        Yes, for God's sake, let them trust when they begin to fall, so that they do not begin to whine and make claims against us, especially since we warned them that we were not responsible

        Surprisingly - Bulgarians fly, repair Psheks, and if they fall, we will be to blame ...

        I read it recently - a man complained that he had brought Bosh tools to an authorized service center and changed the gearbox for 2tyr. And they say to him - you, in addition, the cable is damaged (actually damaged). Either 1,5 tyr, or no repair at all. But without a guarantee - in any gateway. Only when the electric current blows you, we are not to blame ... A man in a scream - why are they imposing services on me here, replace the gearbox, and I myself ... And they in Bosh say either we are responsible for the repair in full, or do where you want and answer yourself. That's the manufacturer’s service ...

        Why am I? Duc to the fact that the Bulgarians would have saved money "in the gateway", but no - they don't want it stupidly, because it will not work out in the American stream. Expensive, crooked - but without Russia! Ukraine won nuclear fuel all the same decided to buy in America. Well, well, the happy sequel of Chernobyl ... But not in Russia ...
        1. +3
          22 October 2015 21: 25
          Well, well, a happy sequel Chernobyl disaster...

          God forbid ... there one exploded, and if the whole Zaporizhzhya in 6 reactors explode ???
          Little will not seem to anyone. Well, except maybe mattress covers.
          1. +1
            22 October 2015 22: 03
            Quote: PSih2097
            God forbid ... there one exploded, and if the whole Zaporizhzhya in 6 reactors explode ???
            Little will not seem to anyone. Well, except maybe mattress covers.

            So and I about that. Head, not fat, you need to think in Kuev, from whom to buy fuel for nuclear power plants. Then it will not explode.
          2. +1
            22 October 2015 23: 30
            This is where the plus appeared! fellow Ukrov has no money to buy fuel elements at all. At least Russian, at least Amer’s - none at all! By the way, the Amer TVELs, although nothing in themselves, but in our design nuclear power plants die almost instantly, with the threat of destruction of the power unit. So ... blackout Ukraine wassat
            P.S. Yes, and the warranty periods for "our" TVELs are really coming to an end
      5. +1
        22 October 2015 20: 35
        Quote: fox21h
        Yes, for God's sake, let them trust when they begin to fall, so that they do not begin to whine and make claims against us, especially since we warned them that we were not responsible


        And all!!! MIG warned. No claims after repair are accepted! It’s interesting that the Psheks get nibbled there ??? Put neon lights on the belly ??? laughing
        1. +3
          22 October 2015 23: 17
          Aha
          Yet:
          1. The cabin is blacked out in a circular circle.
          2. Cut three turns of springs on the chassis.
          3. Stuck collective farm halogen.
          4. Powerful Mouzon with a sub in the trunk.
          5. Alloy (forged) wheels.
          6. Another 33 whistles-per.delki.

          Polish ARA tuning. what
          1. 0
            23 October 2015 00: 01
            Quote: Oman 47
            1. The cabin is blacked out in a circular circle.
            2. Cut three turns of springs on the chassis.
            3. Stuck collective farm halogen.
            4. Powerful Mouzon with a sub in the trunk.
            5. Alloy (forged) wheels.
            6. Another 33 whistles-per.delki.

            And looking for a leather interior and automatic transmission!
        2. 0
          23 October 2015 06: 19
          In vain you underestimate the "white-red" - (do not respect yourself) - they can insert any equipment into our fuselage: there are no sanctions for the use of Western equipment, and thanks to Soviet designers this is easy to implement in MIG-29.
          Not a bad example: the modernization of the MI-14 helicopter by the "white-red" ones - the whole complex of anti-submarine equipment fits into a case with a laptop instead of a good cabinet (model of the 1960s)
      6. +3
        23 October 2015 01: 34
        It is high time to forget about the Bulgarians. An extremely vile people, I sometimes think that the Russian Empire is in vain, so much blood shed its best sons freeing these "brothers" from under the Ottoman yoke. Would have exterminated them and "to hell" with them. We freed them from the Ottomans, and they attacked us in the First World War on the side of the Austrians, in the Great Patriotic War on the side of the Germans, after the collapse of the Warsaw bloc they rushed to NATO. A rotten folk is now pouring in their country and the people are fleeing to Germany, the World Bank, France has already half faded.
    2. +4
      22 October 2015 17: 53
      “The agreement provides for the repair of six engines and temporary (for two years) use of two Polish engines
      29 has two engines. This means one aircraft for two years will be on the move.
    3. +1
      22 October 2015 17: 57
      Yes, immediately in the trash would throw their Air Force less problems in the future bully
    4. +1
      22 October 2015 18: 02
      Here the "brothers" have the main rule - if only not Russia! Evil grandmother is ready to freeze ears.
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    7. +2
      22 October 2015 18: 18
      Balgars need to be punished in full so that they know the land and didn’t fall, although I’m talking of course not about the people, as always, he doesn’t have anything against Russia, there he has seized a handful of power and receives a salary in the State Department, so they need to be fully extended!
      1. +2
        22 October 2015 18: 34
        Yes, they will fly normally.
    8. +8
      22 October 2015 19: 45
      Well, the main brother will fall on his head, maybe then the brains will turn on.
    9. +5
      22 October 2015 21: 22
      It is always easier for two prostitutes to find a common language
    10. 0
      22 October 2015 22: 02
      Yes, you have to rejoice - this is a real adversary, and in case of any conflict! You look at the history and actions of these relatives in their entire history as a state. People there sympathize with Russia, but it's like in the Donbass - the ATO fighters from central Ukraine seem to understand Donbass residents, but they are destroying everything here - houses, boiler houses, schools - even forests and plantings are being cut down so that in a year Donbass will become a desert. But for all that, they are very offended that they are hated here. Let the Poles in the garage play a trick, maybe after a dozen sorties or die, or write off the iron.
    11. -4
      22 October 2015 23: 43
      `` I'm afraid to imagine that the brothers will have 'Migami' after Pshek's repair ... ''
      The Poles have more than 20 years of experience in servicing Mig 29 aircraft. They even upgraded these aircraft. Unlike Russia, there was no MiG 29 disaster in Poland (although there was a case of landing without a chassis). Interestingly, the Poles also offer Bulgaria modernization.
  2. +5
    22 October 2015 17: 48
    Eh, "brothers" completely bent you ...
    1. +12
      22 October 2015 17: 59
      THESE JUDAS ARE ALREADY NOT THE FIRST RUSSIA TO BE THROWN, SO THIS IS ALREADY A SYSTEM.
      1. -2
        22 October 2015 20: 04
        Quote: rash12
        THESE JUDAS ARE ALREADY NOT THE FIRST RUSSIA TO BE THROWN, SO THIS IS ALREADY A SYSTEM.

        Why, then, Judah? After all, it was said at the very beginning of the article:
        Quote: rash12
        Despite the protests of both Russian and Bulgarian experts

        Bulgarian experts were protesting! Why then immediately pour mud over the whole country? Or are you a mishandled Cossack to push us with the foreheads of the Bulgarians?
  3. +5
    22 October 2015 17: 49
    Despite the protests of both Russian and Bulgarian experts, Sofia still signed an agreement with Warsaw on Thursday to repair Russian-made Mig-29 aircraft,
    Did someone expect something different from today's Bulgaria? It seems time to get used to. Well, let's wait and see what happens.
    1. +8
      22 October 2015 17: 56
      Quote: svp67
      Well, let's wait and see what happens.


      I remembered the joke ... the Bavarians bought AvtoVAZ and decided to release a BMW - a Zhiguli was leaving the assembly line ... they changed all the robot equipment; the engineers from Germany brought in a clap - a Zhiguli and a BMW were coming out of the assembly line ... the Germans were in aah, they already brought BMW car kits from Germany they simply collect them - a clap at the exit of a Zhiguli .. the former director and the head engineer of AvtoVAZ are standing on a hill — one to another - hands from the ass, hands from the ass, I told you the damn place ..
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  4. +5
    22 October 2015 17: 50
    “Poland is the only country that has the ability to service and repair MiG-29 aircraft”
    And Russia (the main and main producer) so went to smoke something? fool
  5. +1
    22 October 2015 17: 53
    They put the "brothers" in a pose and shook them with a finger ... Now the dogs will be repaired ...
    I don’t want about sad things ... crying
    1. +2
      22 October 2015 17: 59
      "Poland is the only country that has the ability to maintain and repair MiG-29 aircraft",
      More about a single country. RF are not included in this system? I thought who produces the one and knows how to repair, it turned out who bought the product that he twists as he wants.
      1. 0
        22 October 2015 20: 06
        Quote: keel 31
        More about a single country. RF are not included in this system?

        The only country other than the country of origin is Russia. Clear ? hi
    2. +3
      22 October 2015 18: 14
      Quote: gelezo47
      Now they will repair the psheks ..

      Yeah, for their own money the Bulgarians will lose their fighter aircraft. But, in comparison with NPP Kozloduy and South Stream, this is an insignificant loss. And soon they will have nothing to lose. Well, except for the gypsies. And those, from such a circus on horse-drawn, will migrate to neighboring Romania.
  6. +3
    22 October 2015 17: 55
    Maxim died - and to hell with him! ...
  7. +1
    22 October 2015 17: 56
    And disasters do not even think of blaming Russia.
    1. 0
      22 October 2015 20: 08
      Quote: atamankko
      And disasters do not even think of blaming Russia.

      And what, already? smile
  8. +4
    22 October 2015 17: 57
    An interesting repair price, will they buy new ones in the Russian Federation? And the difference is in your pocket?
    27 lyam in rubles, if I'm not mistaken, a new one will cost hi
  9. +4
    22 October 2015 17: 57
    And what are we worried about? They chose they answer. MIG voiced its position, withdrew responsibility. Well, there is still such a side with NATO will have fewer aircraft. And let the pilots know how their homeland loves them!
  10. 0
    22 October 2015 17: 59
    they will remake them in BMP wink
  11. +4
    22 October 2015 17: 59
    Kusim! The Russian man said and closed the spare parts warehouse.
  12. 0
    22 October 2015 18: 00
    The Psheks will friendlyly subcontract xoxlam in Zaporozhye or Lviv? laughing
  13. +3
    22 October 2015 18: 01
    And what else to expect from these pseudo "Brothers", who were conquered by others all their lives, and when they were conquered by Russia they turned away from it again ???? - a vivid example of political prostitution ...
  14. +2
    22 October 2015 18: 10
    On this brief history of aviation in Bulgaria can be completed. Only kites and airships will remain. without spare parts.
    1. +1
      22 October 2015 19: 58
      Her, they will send rubber ideas with ISIS
  15. +2
    22 October 2015 18: 13
    What should they do? Once you said "A", you must say "B". They decided on whose side they would be in the "dispute". You shouldn't be indignant here. You just have to keep THAT in mind.
  16. +6
    22 October 2015 18: 14
    Very good.

    I can understand the position of the MiG, from which they left, albeit small, but money, which in the conditions of many years of underfunding (against the background of the big brother - "Sukhoi") would always come in handy.

    But for the Bulgarian fighters, our soul should not hurt. Let them have the number of take-offs equal to the number of landings. God grant. Poland really like "the only country that has the ability to maintain and repair MiG-29 aircraft", can significantly affect this rule.

    We have enough of our worries to count Bulgarian money as a whole country.
  17. +3
    22 October 2015 18: 16
    So much for the "brothers" Bulgarians! We have no brothers, neither in the Motherland nor in the mother!
    1. +1
      23 October 2015 01: 59
      And they are trying to ban "MOTHER" in Russia at the governmental level, the Russian government has nothing else to do.
  18. +2
    22 October 2015 18: 20
    It’s time to get used to it and not flatter ourselves at the expense of Bulgaria; it was constantly on the other side of the front.
  19. +2
    22 October 2015 18: 23
    There were brothers, but they all came out, we have no brothers. Someone went to the EU and NATO for a "better share", the last "brothers" on the Maidan exchanged us for cookies.
  20. 0
    22 October 2015 18: 26
    No one will be surprised if the Polish repair they really become UB. Wojciech with a screwdriver will fix everything!
  21. 0
    22 October 2015 18: 26
    Well, like this! Seven feet to them under the keel!
    Passengers board the plane. There are no glasses in the portholes, there are not enough seats, they look around. From behind the bored door of the cockpit, the first pilot leaves. head in bandages, eye swam. He put the crutch aside: Well, suicide bombers, somersaults !?

    Sorry for the Polish pilots, after all.
  22. 0
    22 October 2015 18: 27
    “Poland is the only country that has the ability to service and repair MiG-29 aircraft”
    This is a frank nonsense !!! The Germans not only use them after our departure, but also how they can repair it. True, the Germans have a completely German repair price tag, while Poland has a slightly smaller one, probably Polish !!! Here is such a NATO - a cunning bug! Bulgaria did not even contact us for repairs after a gas collision, or maybe contacted, but they sent it to the same place where the gas pipeline was.
  23. +1
    22 October 2015 18: 28
    Slid into brother-brother again. Guys, the 21st century is in the courtyard with all its charms, and you, as a consumptive moneylender, go, you collect all the bicentenary debts. By golly, they got it slightly with their retrospective grumbling.
    TWIMC, of ​​course.
  24. 0
    22 October 2015 18: 29
    The Bulgarian government has chosen its own path. Well, a fair wind. It is worth bothering because of them.
  25. +4
    22 October 2015 18: 30
    Back in the "dashing 90s" in Russia, when any "cooperator" could open a joint venture ... In short: Opening a joint venture with the Poles was tantamount to a RUSSIAN-RYGAN enterprise. With all that it implies. Pshekite still bullshit and freemasonry, practically what Bulgarians and similar rocks now eat. We are at that time ... high. And the "brothers" are chewing the allocated and some kind of contract. Bon Appetit! They will repair aircraft for them ... From spare parts with an exhausted resource 15 years ago. It's time for us to impose sanctions on the sale of junk hubs. Many "businessmen" from Eastern Europe will collapse - FACT! If Bulgarians are ready to pay hard currency for repairing flying machines with spare parts from decommissioned equipment (Poles are expensive to take new ones and have nowhere to go), then "a flag in their hands and a drum around their neck" (c). How flyable is this technique? The owner is the master. If he pays, then a goof!
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  27. +1
    22 October 2015 18: 31
    Brothers laughed. It was necessary to turn to Ukraine! There would be no problems after the repair. In the absence of aircraft, as such.
  28. +3
    22 October 2015 18: 45
    Bulgaria has once again confirmed that it is a political prostitute ...
  29. +3
    22 October 2015 18: 46
    Yes, there are no bros and there were not, there are only partners in the interests.
  30. 0
    22 October 2015 19: 10
    Well, this is only at hand for us (their rejection of our weapons)
    Let them complete with the staff doctor’s
    1. 0
      22 October 2015 19: 22
      Not quite at hand. sad Since for export, there are cars with reduced performance, and on the salary of our workers it has no effect winked . Rather, it would not have affected. By and large, these (export) planes are also not the highest class, BUT they are paid for, and then they are also serviced, spare parts, technical staff training.
      Almost everything is the same as with your new car laughing if you observe all THAT, only the amounts are different. I think less cheating.
  31. 0
    22 October 2015 19: 13
    Bulgarian Minister of Defense said in July: “We will do our best to reduce our dependence on Russia. Bulgaria is the only NATO member that is 90% dependent on Russia. It really bothers me crying ».
    Well, it's not only bothering you. This worries McDonnell Douglas, General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, and this is only in the aviation field. love

    “Poland is the only country bully , which has the ability to service and repair MiG-29 aircraft "Oops ...
    Does it all start small? Polska decided to service, repair the MiG-29, and as it develops, will it participate in the development of Eurofighter-2?
  32. 0
    22 October 2015 19: 24
    The policy of the new NATO warriors is very simple; let it be worse for us, but our spit in the direction of the Kremlin will not remain unnoticed by the owner, which means we will cut down the devants. Remember the jackal Tabaki in Mowgli! By the way, it’s even better for us to have no obligations to the jackal.
  33. +1
    22 October 2015 19: 38
    Bulgarians are degrading before our eyes. Soon, the regiment of the Main Russophobia will be recorded.

    Amers were told in plain text that they had abandoned three large infrastructure projects (including South Stream) by their decree; planes with humanitarian supplies are not allowed to Syria; they refused from legal aircraft maintenance - and they still want something; whine "we have the most expensive gas in Europe".

    "Tomorrow, in Brussels, a unique exhibition of donkeys will be held! The entrance is free. Everyone gathered ... They look at a friend ... Studying ... And then they still asked - where are the donkeys? ..."(Petrosyan, still young). laughing
  34. +1
    22 October 2015 19: 40
    Honestly, they cried out screams about the corruption and prostitution of the Bulgarians, the ball is ruled by a team hired by a phishington. I think we need to distribute the gingerbread cookies according to belonging, and not smear people with shit.
  35. +1
    22 October 2015 19: 51
    Perhaps it is good that the "brothers" began to show their essence. After all, remember we were brought up in childhood (70-80) on the concepts of fraternal peoples, international duty, helping brothers in building socialism. And we honestly helped with money and technology and strength. And now, finally, the last haze in the concept of fraternal peoples has fallen from our eyes. And that's just fine. We have no brothers, but there is their benefit and desire to suck on the tit for more. This is probably correct? But now we cannot be forced to save the "brothers" for the idea of ​​the international debt!
  36. 0
    22 October 2015 19: 53
    The government in the country is such as this very people chose, they did not pick up tea from the Varangians from the African government in Bulgaria — all of their own, the most Bulgarian boyfriends — who came out of this same Bulgarian people and now bear the wishes of all Bulgarians to politics !!!
  37. 0
    22 October 2015 20: 08
    Well, if so, then you are successful in flying Bulgarians. Sorry for you of course, but your government has decided so (you can say for you) fool
  38. 0
    22 October 2015 20: 20
    And when the Bulgarian "MiG", after the Polish repairs, dies out of the residents of some house or just citizens on the street (collapses due to a malfunction), the whole geyropa will scream that this is a Russian-made aircraft fell, Russia is to blame, all the relatives of all the victims are obliged to pay compensation.
  39. -1
    22 October 2015 21: 01
    That special warmth for the supposedly “little brothers” in Bulgaria, which we absorbed with mother’s milk, is in fact little based on. On the contrary, the participation of this country in both world wars in coalitions hostile to Russia suggests that only Orthodoxy unites us, and even then conditionally. In today's world, common faith is not a sufficient basis for allied relations. An example of two World Wars.
    As, however, it was before. They say that when in the XIX century our troops passed through the liberated Bulgarian villages, the soldiers had to buy water from local residents in order to get drunk. Bulgarians never felt gratitude for their release - and one should not rebuke them for this. You just need to take note: they - such and others will not. And they do not want to be indebted to us, and do not consider themselves obligated to Russia.
  40. +1
    22 October 2015 21: 10
    Yes, really ... Brothers, brothers-Slavs ... Only something during both world wars were "on the other side". And now they are so puffed up, trying to "please the new owners." Servant manners ...
  41. +2
    22 October 2015 21: 49
    "" Poland is the only country, which has the ability to maintain and repair MiG-29 aircraft "" ...

    Well, yes, yes ... But Russia and the Russian MIG corporation do not have such an opportunity ...

    PS A month ago, a representative of the MIG corporation announced that they would not sell to Poland not only a single unit, but even a rusty nut ... So let the Poles repair it, the Bulgarians - "brothers" - fly ... on a roller coaster ...
  42. 0
    22 October 2015 22: 16
    And that's good. The sooner planes are destroyed, the better. It's time to forget about these Turkish subjects, as Ostap Bender said. "You are not my brother, ...."
  43. 0
    22 October 2015 22: 36
    Has Pshekistansk not gone ??? Bulgarians - Psheks, bhai-bhai!
  44. 0
    22 October 2015 22: 50
    The day will come, and it will surely come when the need arises again to save or just help the Bulgarians. I wonder who they will ask for this. It's a pity. For some reason, everyone thinks that you don't have to pay for anything - a mistake. Sooner or later you have to pay for everything. For meanness, for betrayal, for cunning, for "gifts". This is what Bulgaria received for its betrayal. It's not about the people, about the political establishment! But who, even of our ghouls, lives happily? Those who, inspired in the light of the changes, decided that this is the loot, happiness!
  45. +1
    22 October 2015 23: 00
    Why should the Poles pay? Indeed, in Bulgaria there are a lot of gypsies, and they could sign an agreement to repair the MIG-29 even cheaper and more profitable for the Bulgarian Air Force. After all, they can even turn a half-dead horse in a small camp in half an hour into a well-fed and vigorous one, and even a plane ... easily.
  46. +1
    22 October 2015 23: 06
    Here, on a military review, something the Bulgarians undertook to strive to laugh at the Poles. But one
    we don’t notice a simple thing. Poland, recently very much strengthens its position in the defense market
    industry! MANPADS Thunder complex, Tward’s tank, a large number of concepts of military equipment and weapons!
    Moreover, they work successfully both by our standards and by NATO. So they can, and there is a desire!
    But we should think. Perhaps this is not a political issue, but rather an economic one! Well maybe
    Poles provide reasonable quality at a low price! And well done. After all, MiG-type aircraft
    in Bulgaria there are not many, and the amount of the contract is likely to be small. The concern is that if
    the Poles will fulfill this contract successfully, and other machine operators can turn to them!
    Competition, damn it!
    1. +1
      22 October 2015 23: 40
      Sorry, but MANPADS Thunder and tank Tward pshek already SUCCESSFULLY SELL?
      The question is without jokes, it’s just interesting: an advertising announcement or a fait accompli.
  47. 0
    22 October 2015 23: 12
    More than a reasonable move on the part of Bulgaria in the current situation (someone suggested something different, given Bulgaria’s membership in NATO)?
    In addition, a number of countries have learned to repair - and to repair qualitatively - and upgrade MIGs a long time ago. Poland, Israel, Germany
  48. +1
    22 October 2015 23: 14
    Bulgarians behave like regular props.
  49. +1
    23 October 2015 01: 43
    Here, many examples of machines lead or their favorite punch (hello, man-punch! wink ).
    Only those who give such examples forget one thing - with cars and all kinds of household appliances, THAT have the right to deal with and third-party organizations. And then what is usually what? change oils, filters, pads, check backlash - in short, nothing extraordinary, any workshop (and the owner himself, with the ability) will cope with good equipment and no one, except the manufacturer, can deprive him of his warranty (neither "Schmiller dealers" or service centers) and then, only after it proves through an examination that the owner poured tar or butter (or an obvious fake) instead of oil, used the filter from gauze folded in 2 times and other trash instead of consumables.
    But specific and VERY complex military products, no one except the manufacturer can produce replacement, adjustment, etc. many of the parts used for this are made from secret alloys (according to secret technologies) and use very non-trivial equipment for this. And, as with cars and other household appliances, product specifications and technological data and licenses for the production of a bunch of component manufacturers' factories do not apply (how many high-quality non-original spare parts can be bought for cars? - a huge amount). But this does not apply to military aircraft - just the levels of technology and requirements for the quality of work are different (and no one will be so easily "squandered" with secrets).
  50. 0
    23 October 2015 02: 46
    Well, now I’ll be afraid that such a wonderful car could fall on my head after the "master" service.
  51. 0
    23 October 2015 05: 27
    Here come the bros am
  52. 0
    23 October 2015 06: 13
    Engine repairs cannot be done “on your knees in the garage”. Again, will the gentlemen grind out the components themselves to replace faulty parts? Will they also arrange for the engine life extension themselves? Total criminality!
  53. 0
    23 October 2015 06: 33
    Realistically, I wouldn’t make so much noise: the cars were purchased by the Bulgarians back in Soviet times, which means more than 25 years ago. In reality, this is already used scrap metal (even by the date standing). And let them do what they want!!

    Of course, it’s a shame that the edge of the pie was torn away from the Migovites, but it’s better to take up new ones than to go and beg: “designer supervision”, “design support”, etc., which from mandatory work (“uniform honor”) turned into “extortion”
  54. 0
    23 October 2015 20: 06
    There are no longer even bell peppers and tomatoes left in Bulgaria. There is country 404, and there is country 6 (six), or rather countries of six.