On the basis of T-72 and T-90 will be created machines to combat robots

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Deputy General Director of Uralvagonzavod for special equipment Vyacheslav Khalitov said that on the basis of tanks T-72 and T-90 will be created combat vehicles equipped with the latest 57-mm combat module "Baikal".



“We will install the Baikal module on the T-72 and T-90 chassis - this is a unique fire support vehicle due to the 57-mm high ballistics cannon and ammunition load - multifunctionality immediately appears, which means effective combat against air targets, such as Drones, and ground-based robotic systems, ”RIA quoted him as saying. "News".

The gun of high ballistics of the new combat module "Baikal" will have a range of 16 kilometers through the air and 6 kilometers of land and increased ammunition.
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    1. +31
      22 October 2015 09: 38
      And the chassis is not great for such a module? Although there is not much protection.
      1. jjj
        +1
        22 October 2015 09: 44
        But interestingly, no tricky ammunition for this business was bungled? If so, you get a very interesting car
      2. +1
        22 October 2015 09: 45
        hi Vladimir!
        Credit, capacious and motivating picture laughing laughing laughing
      3. +7
        22 October 2015 09: 50
        Quote: Arctidian
        And the chassis is not great for such a module? Although there is not much protection.

        They also promise to put it on the T-15. 5:49 talk about the 57 mm gun.
      4. +5
        22 October 2015 10: 25
        Photo is just great.)))
        About the chassis. It already exists, is being produced for a long time and has been well mastered, and there is a huge resource and repair base. Than produce a huge number of different platforms, it is easier to work with one reliable.
      5. 0
        22 October 2015 10: 53
        Quote: Arctidian
        And the chassis is not great for such a module?

        The chassis, for the 57mm machine, should be diverse. Caterpillar, wheeled, helicopter, aircraft, ....
    2. +4
      22 October 2015 09: 38
      It’s a good thing, of course, but it seems to me that our military-industrial complex has things cooler (for fighting robots and all other evil spirits ..) ... Our some kind of suspicious satellites fly near the American! bully
      1. +5
        22 October 2015 09: 41
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Our satellites some kind of suspicious fly, near the American!

        Do not confuse: outer space - outer space, this is a separate conversation.
        And the T-72 chassis was well thought out, we have 100500 such "chassis", they will even remain.
        1. +1
          22 October 2015 09: 57
          Quote: hydrox
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Our satellites some kind of suspicious fly, near the American!

          Do not confuse: outer space - outer space, this is a separate conversation.
          Well, I don’t know .. Robots are mostly controlled via satellites? And if the signal is intercepted or stopped, then it’s just a pile of iron and plastic ... Or am I wrong?
          1. 0
            22 October 2015 10: 58
            All satellites cannot be blocked.
            It is possible to provide communication without satellites.
            Artificial intelligence allows you to completely puzzle the drone at the time of launch.
      2. +3
        22 October 2015 09: 42
        Like this ...
    3. +8
      22 October 2015 09: 39
      Well, a suitable platform for such a powerful and rapid-firing gun. Nevertheless, the BMP is too light a platform for conducting aimed automatic fire from such a gun. Wangyu will spark and a solid ammunition, i.e. modern version of the ZSU-57-2
      1. 0
        22 October 2015 21: 50
        Well, BMPs are the same different. For the T-15, 57mm is suitable (a tank heavy base will allow the effective use of a gun of this caliber). As for the car, which will turn out after installing the new BM in the 72nd / 90th case, this looks like a new BMPT, with advanced capabilities to combat air targets. In short, we are waiting for more information on this interesting project. good
    4. +12
      22 October 2015 09: 43
      There is still no reception against scrap ...
    5. +4
      22 October 2015 09: 45
      I didn't understand the news. It has been said more than once that the "Baikal" module is planned to be installed on BMPT and BMPT "Armata" and "Kurganets". BMPT - T-72 and T-90 base.
    6. +4
      22 October 2015 09: 47
      16 km by air is very strong! I can’t imagine how it is possible at such ranges to calculate ballistics for a moving maneuvering target ......
      1. +5
        22 October 2015 09: 52
        Quote: Trigger-Happy
        16 km by air is very strong! I can’t imagine how it is possible at such ranges to calculate ballistics for a moving maneuvering target ......

        Remote blasting is our fso. smile
    7. 0
      22 October 2015 09: 51
      THE CONCEPT OF A JET JET WAS VERY POPULAR IN THE 70-80 YEARS
    8. 0
      22 October 2015 09: 52
      All the same, the idea of ​​BMPT does not leave minds .... Mdya .... Although, still 57 mm is better than 30. Yes, and if you do not get carried away with quantity and establish a decent suo, you will get a very necessary device. Since the "armature" did not make a decent angle of vertical aiming guns. I hope that at least Bk will be removed from the crew?
    9. +1
      22 October 2015 09: 59
      Now we are not defenseless against Skynet! laughing
      1. +4
        22 October 2015 10: 06
        Quote: AlexTires
        Now we are not defenseless against Skynet! laughing

        That's right .. We are very foolish! hi
    10. +1
      22 October 2015 10: 01
      The "Baikal" module with a 57 mm cannon is serious. On the T-15 they will install it instead of a module with a 30 mm cannon. And if there are 4 or more anti-tank missiles of the "Attack" type to it, then there will be no price for such a unit. I'm thinking , if such a coaxial cannon is installed on the Terminator than a destroyer of robots, UAVs, and even tanks, if there is a missile arsenal for Baikal?
      1. +3
        22 October 2015 11: 24
        Do not make the tower heavier. On the contrary, it is necessary to provide the smallest possible weight in order to increase the reaction to quickly and unexpectedly appearing targets.
        Missiles are rarely needed and predicted. In an active battle, they will become useless when they are hit by bullets and fragments. Let them be in the second line, on a lighter chassis, with the possibility of quick maneuvering.
    11. 0
      22 October 2015 10: 03
      There is an order and TTZ for such a machine from MO - ???
      Will be created - most likely yes.
      Will be adopted - a big question.
      Visit the BT museum in Kubinka and see how many experienced objects fall on one taken into service.
    12. -2
      22 October 2015 10: 19
      I understand - the 57 mm module looks promising, but why reduce the firepower of the tank? A standard 125mm for fighting robots is not good? There is a good direction - the T-72 robotization (90), to develop a still good guided munition and no need to spend extra people's money with a dubious outcome.
      1. +5
        22 October 2015 10: 50
        Quote: mark1
        A standard 125mm for fighting robots is not good?

        For air targets?
        For quick, easy and multiple purposes? (infantry, convoy of machine guns with kk machine guns)
        For hidden purposes? (bushes, trees, ruins, roofs, windows)

        In your opinion, nuclear ammunition will be the most optimal ...
        1. 0
          22 October 2015 12: 57
          Quote: Genry
          For air targets?

          Managed PSU why not, in addition, a machine gun module is installed on the roof.
          Quote: Genry
          For quick, easy and multiple purposes? (infantry, convoy of machine guns with machine guns

          This is just a regular gun and will fit perfectly. Or do you think that they need to be piece by piece, like a cockroach with a slipper, to beat?
          Quote: Genry
          For hidden purposes? (bushes, trees, ruins, roofs, windows

          Well, if only roofs and windows, and if only a short distance in the village. And again, what is the bad module on the roof?
          Quote: Genry
          In your opinion, the nuclear weapon will be
          the most optimal ...

          It is not in the tank’s tank and it’s not necessary, but a good guided ammunition of 125 mm caliber can solve almost all the tasks you set.
    13. 0
      22 October 2015 10: 45
      Well, what the hell is this on a tank?
      If this is done as an anti-UAV air defense system, is it not easier to modify the Pantsiri and Shilki? And then somehow dofiga air defense systems will turn out.
      Anyway, the base of the tank for such a module is redundant. Take the BMP-3, put on dynamic armor (well, it won't float and won't) and it's fine. That is, if all this "miracle" is conceived as an air defense system.
      1. +3
        22 October 2015 11: 12
        We must put it (57mm cannon) on the "Taeta" and put you there to fight!
        You need to know what this gun is capable of and then speak ...
        This is a rapid-fire machine for active combat in the attack line. Why the hell to put it on a weakly protected platform?
    14. +1
      22 October 2015 10: 59
      In fact, this is a modified ship’s gun S-60, who served in the Navy know this miracle. The module itself was planned to be made uninhabited for the BMP T-15. Why install it on a tank platform? I did not understand the ending - I always thought that the horizontal range exceeds the range for air targets.
    15. +2
      22 October 2015 11: 18
      I hope a fake .. we have a t-90 today, one-two, and it turned out to be a bit more than the canned t-62/64 did not please them? But when at least 500-700pcs T-14 will be built, you can think about it .. and don’t have to drool here, the tank, unlike this module, is a universal thing.
    16. 0
      22 October 2015 13: 33
      Quote: GRAY
      Quote: Trigger-Happy
      16 km by air is very strong! I can’t imagine how it is possible at such ranges to calculate ballistics for a moving maneuvering target ......

      Remote blasting is our fso. smile

      .. yes it’s logical, but still it will be difficult to calculate the place of the detonation and bring the trajectory of the projectile to the maneuvering target. Here the theory of probability comes into force.
    17. 0
      22 October 2015 14: 09
      Quote: Arctidian
      And the chassis is not great for such a module? Although there is not much protection.


      At one time I was there in practice with the union, the Armies is really the best, although it looks ugly, but the citizen shit, especially the excavator eo 5126, this asshole is already tired of it, and they introduced a ban on the import of TT.
    18. 0
      23 October 2015 04: 39
      Great car will work.
      Where the tank gun is frankly redundant.
      Plus the tower is uninhabited.
      Plus dofig ammunition, different.
      Plus high ballistics, for the city the most.
      Do not be surprised if it will be tested in Syria.

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