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Kurdish militia launches an attack on ISIS positions in Syria

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The Kurdish militia launched a large-scale attack on the position of the militants of the so-called "Islamic State". The main goal of the upcoming Kurdish units is to cut the existing communication between the militant groups in the provinces of Rakka and Aleppo. This is reported by the TV channel LifeNews.


According to some reports, Kurdish militias intend to coordinate their actions with the coalition led by the Americans. It should be noted that all the latest cases of this kind of coordination most often led to certain oddities. In particular, the advancing Kurdish units were either thrown back by the Ishilians themselves or the Kurds from the air were covered by Turkish strikes aviation, after which ISIS fighters took control of the new territories of Syria.

Kurdish militia launches an attack on ISIS positions in Syria


Syrian Kurds meanwhile continue to organize the recruitment of the militia. Active recruitment is conducted in the cities of Kamyshly, Almuda and Al-Malkiya.

On the eve of the Kurds announced the proclamation of a new province, adjacent to the Turkish border. According to the correspondent "Vesti", it will include the city of Tel Abbyad, which had previously been beaten off by terrorist groups. At the same time, in Ankara, considering the Kurdish units themselves as “terrorist structures”, express concern about the Kurdish activization along the Turkish borders.
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  1. avvg
    avvg 22 October 2015 06: 43 New
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    If Turkey does not interfere with the Kurds, under the guise of fighting ISIS, they will bombard the Kurds, then the Kurds with their offensive will really help Assad and they will open a second front.
    1. Haettenschweiler
      Haettenschweiler 22 October 2015 06: 49 New
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      If Turkey will not interfere with the Kurds


      - It's very, very big if a. In general, there are surprisingly many armed women in the photograph. Are the Kurds men over?
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 22 October 2015 06: 54 New
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        Quote: Haettenschweiler
        there are surprisingly many armed women in the photograph. Are the Kurds men over?

        Look at the photos of the Israeli military ... Are the men over the Jews?
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 22 October 2015 06: 57 New
          +5
          Quote: V.ic
          Look at the photos of the Israeli military ... Are the men over the Jews?


          - Ага, особенно две девушки - справа и в центре снимка - просто евреи высшей категории. Как говорила моя мама, "сплошная Рязань". Явные русские переселенцы из Союза. А вообще, мне кажется, есть разница - женщина по добровольному призыву в регулярной армии, и женщина в иррегулярном вооружённом формировании. Как бы на мой взгляд для барышень во втором случае мотивации должно быть меньше.
          1. Penetrator
            Penetrator 22 October 2015 07: 20 New
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            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            Ага, особенно две девушки - справа и в центре снимка - просто евреи высшей категории. Как говорила моя мама, "сплошная Рязань".

            You have strange ideas about the Ryazan type laughing
            1. Haettenschweiler
              Haettenschweiler 22 October 2015 07: 32 New
              +2
              Quote: Penetrator
              You have strange ideas about the Ryazan type


              - No, I in no case did not want to offend Ryazanites, it’s just such an old saying. Its meaning is that these young women are most likely emigrants from the USSR after its collapse, when Israel welcomed all comers who could at least somehow prove their Jewish origin.
              1. Penetrator
                Penetrator 22 October 2015 08: 01 New
                +6
                Quote: Haettenschweiler
                these young ladies, most likely, emigrants from the USSR after its collapse

                Maybe so, but nothing in common with the Slavs I did not see in them. Typical Semitic appearance.
                1. Vladimir 1964
                  Vladimir 1964 22 October 2015 18: 32 New
                  0
                  Quote: Penetrator
                  Maybe so, but nothing in common with the Slavs I did not see in them. Typical Semitic appearance.


                  Central and right yes, the left one is not like a Jewess, Dear colleague Andrei, but I liked your comment about Ryazan. hi

                  Well, like that. wassat
          2. ver_
            ver_ 22 October 2015 07: 47 New
            +9
            ... a woman surpasses men in cruelty and abomination ...
            1. skylare
              skylare 22 October 2015 13: 01 New
              +3
              Scumbags, oddly enough, come in any color and gender. With all due respect.
          3. sssla
            sssla 22 October 2015 08: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            Explicit Russian immigrants from the Union

            Russians BUT are not Russians. The word Russian has already traveled to the base, especially the shunned !! Leave it true Russian and not those who have some kind of state of mind !!
          4. Das Boot
            Das Boot 22 October 2015 08: 27 New
            +4
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            Как говорила моя мама, "сплошная Рязань". Явные русские

            for the expert on phenotypes:
            1. iv.ionov
              iv.ionov 22 October 2015 09: 44 New
              +2
              Well, you are all such specialists, according to the cuts in the eyes of Ryazan girls, I’m directly falling from ha ha !!! laughing fool
              1. Das Boot
                Das Boot 22 October 2015 09: 56 New
                +1
                Quote: iv.ionov
                Well, you are all such specialists

                Duc! We also embroider a cross and we can support a conversation on the subject of methods of multidimensional angular functions ... laughing
          5. V.ic
            V.ic 22 October 2015 08: 46 New
            0
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            on the right and in the center of the picture are just Jews of the highest category.

            Насчёт "центровой" попали в цель. Типичная "ашкеназ". А вот правая... Ну посмотрите на мочку её уха! Попали "пальцем в небо".
          6. iv.ionov
            iv.ionov 22 October 2015 09: 30 New
            -1
            А,чем позвольте узнать,вашей маме не угодила "сплошная Рязань"?В Рязани, что с лица или убогие? Можно подумать, Вы там такие все "ален делоны"с голубой кровушкой да с сахарными косточками!!! Коренной так не скажет,а вот приехавшие когда-то из какой ни-будь дыры и осевшие в стольном граде, те да, они становятся коренные столичники,остальные для них сразу переходят в разряд "СПЛОШНАЯ РЯЗАНЬ"!!!
            1. Haettenschweiler
              Haettenschweiler 22 October 2015 10: 51 New
              +3
              Quote: iv.ionov
              А,чем позвольте узнать,вашей маме не угодила "сплошная Рязань"?В Рязани, что с лица или убогие? Можно подумать, Вы там такие все "ален делоны"с голубой кровушкой да с сахарными косточками!!! Коренной так не скажет,а вот приехавшие когда-то из какой ни-будь дыры и осевшие в стольном граде, те да, они становятся коренные столичники,остальные для них сразу переходят в разряд "СПЛОШНАЯ РЯЗАНЬ"!!!


              - Эвон сколько яда разлил детинушка... хоть даже распоследний мог увидеть, что чуть выше я про это уже писал товарищу "Пенетратору". А сами мы к Москве и Московской области отношения не имеем от слова "вообще", уральские мы, часть в Екатеринбурге живёт, часть - и я в том числе - в ЯНАО. Что как бы дальше от Москвы, чем даже Париж.
              1. iv.ionov
                iv.ionov 22 October 2015 17: 43 New
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                Когда я писал, к сожалению ни цитат "Пенетратора",ни Вашего ответа на него, почему то не было!А, Вам бы только людей не заслуженно обижать:"яда разлил,детинушка,распоследний мог увидеть!!!Или у Вас,по принципу:пукнул в воду пузырики пошли, ну и ладно!!!С людьми так не надо общаться! Я, рад за Вашу маму,что она распознаёт"сплошную Рязань" даже будучи жительницей ЯНАО! Хотя интересно,как в ЯНАО Ваша мама определяет кто с Рязани,а кто с Казани!!!"так в рифму пришлось"!!! smile
            2. PSih2097
              PSih2097 22 October 2015 13: 44 New
              0
              Quote: iv.ionov
              the rest for them immediately go to discharge "СПЛОШНАЯ РЯЗАНЬ"!!!

              не, "понаехало дярёвня"...
          7. Johnny51
            Johnny51 22 October 2015 09: 48 New
            +2
            Женщины в армии- это укор политике мужчин! И не стоит пускать слюни по поводу "типажа". У нас, к сожелению, многие "косили" или хотели "закосить" от армии, а там - девчёнки берут оружие в руки, чтобы защищать Родину. Пошло и цинично обсуждать при этом их внешние данные.
            1. Penetrator
              Penetrator 22 October 2015 14: 29 New
              +2
              Quote: Johnny51
              It was cynical to discuss their external data.

              Went and cynical to breed hypocrisy about this. A normal male should like beautiful women (especially in uniform smile ) And then we can conclude that you are either impotent, or well .. let's say .. non-heterosexual
          8. Pimply
            Pimply 22 October 2015 12: 13 New
            0
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            - Ага, особенно две девушки - справа и в центре снимка - просто евреи высшей категории. Как говорила моя мама, "сплошная Рязань". Явные русские переселенцы из Союза. А вообще, мне кажется, есть разница - женщина по добровольному призыву в регулярной армии, и женщина в иррегулярном вооружённом формировании. Как бы на мой взгляд для барышень во втором случае мотивации должно быть меньше.

            You would probably be greatly surprised by Indian, Filipino and Ethiopian Jews. Judaism is both a nationality and a religion.
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          10. Bochik
            Bochik 22 October 2015 15: 53 New
            0
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            Quote: V.ic
            Look at the photos of the Israeli military ... Are the men over the Jews?


            - Yeah, especially the two girls - on the right and in the center of the picture - are just Jews of the highest category.

            Are you a specialist in the Jewish nation? Maybe you are an ethnologist?
            1. Das Boot
              Das Boot 22 October 2015 18: 32 New
              0
              Quote: Bochik
              Maybe you are an ethnologist?

              uh, it's a little different. Here the boys are engaged in bertillonage. laughing
            2. Vladimir 1964
              Vladimir 1964 22 October 2015 19: 00 New
              0
              Quote: Bochik
              Are you a specialist in the Jewish nation? Maybe you are an ethnologist?


              For information, Dear Bochik:
              Ethnology (Greek ἔθνος, people + -logos - teaching, science) is a science that studies ethnic processes, which refers to various aspects of the life of ethnic groups, as well as other ethnic communities.


              that is, the ethnologist has an indirect relation to the appearance of the ethnos, or rather, the term anthropologist would be used.

              Something like this, Dear. hi
        2. mirag2
          mirag2 22 October 2015 06: 57 New
          +3
          I think this film from ANNA NEWS will be useful for understanding the origins of ISIS:
          1. Dryuya2
            Dryuya2 22 October 2015 08: 38 New
            +4
            Syria. Interrogation of a captured militant ISIS

            Syria. Kurds capture ISIS fighter

            Syria. Kurds captured two ISIS militants
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        4. kubanec
          kubanec 22 October 2015 07: 48 New
          +2
          ... Is it possible that the Jews have run out of Jews? ----- NO, JUST ISRAEL A COUNTRY IS NOT A BIG, AND A GOOD NUMBER OF THE ARMY HAS TO BE SUPPORTED BY THE CALL AND WOMEN ALSO!
        5. Junior, I
          Junior, I 22 October 2015 08: 04 New
          0
          There matriarchy comes laughing
          1. Wolverine
            Wolverine 22 October 2015 14: 15 New
            0
            And there, and so on mum consider. wassat
        6. ivan bogomolov
          ivan bogomolov 22 October 2015 08: 13 New
          +4
          They are driving on Ferari in Moscow wassat
      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 22 October 2015 06: 59 New
        +8
        Quote: Haettenschweiler
        Quote: avvg
        If Turkey will not interfere with the Kurds


        - It's very, very big if a. In general, there are surprisingly many armed women in the photograph. Are the Kurds men over?

        In many armies of the world there are now many women, have the men really ended in the world?
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 22 October 2015 07: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: vovanpain
          In many armies of the world


          - Например, в карликовых прибалтийских "тоже государствах"?
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 22 October 2015 07: 41 New
            +8
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            Quote: vovanpain
            In many armies of the world


            - Например, в карликовых прибалтийских "тоже государствах"?

            I don’t know the giants of the cockroaches of the Baltic states, but in Russia there are many women who serve, and it’s still not like the men
            1. Haettenschweiler
              Haettenschweiler 22 October 2015 07: 43 New
              0
              Quote: vovanpain
              I don’t know the giants of the cockroaches of the Baltic states, but in Russia there are many women who serve, and it’s still not like the men


              - Fortunately, a little, especially regarding the size of the army itself. And the appeal for women in Russia is purely voluntary. And what about the Kurds?
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 22 October 2015 07: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: vovanpain
          are men in the world over?

          Guys earn money, they have no time to fight.
        3. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 22 October 2015 11: 18 New
          +2
          Quote: vovanpain
          In many armies of the world there are now many women, have the men really ended in the world?


          Everyone forgets that a jihad warrior killed by a woman will not go to heaven with the guria. So, the more women in the armies fighting the Islamists, the less attractive it is to die in battles with them. Only this topic should be covered much more widely in the media. You look, bearded and diminish. My opinion is that the draft of women in the army is justified. Especially in Syria, Israel, in the Kurdish militia.
      3. Ded_smerch
        Ded_smerch 22 October 2015 07: 18 New
        +2
        В курдской народно-освободительной армии женщины приравнены мужчинам и сами идут воевать, а мужиков в этой армии предостаточно. Кроме того одна из самых ведущих группировок (партий) среди курдов это "Курдская рабочая партия" то как понимаешь коммунистическое движение за равноправие полов.
      4. Junior, I
        Junior, I 22 October 2015 08: 03 New
        0
        so they all spread with the children in the geyropu
      5. Oladushkin
        Oladushkin 22 October 2015 08: 21 New
        +1
        It's not that. And that:
        Xnumx) there are many women volunteers
        2) Here comes the 2 factor that contributes to the appearance of female volunteers - according to the religious beliefs of terrorist organizations - they must automatically go to paradise for the fight for this pseudo-Islam. But with one exception, if they are not killed by the girl. Here the same religious scarecrow as the fear of pigs :). There is one more thing. Mmmm ... In general, they should go to the next world with their own household. But without economy, it’s more difficult to get to paradise and there all sorts of religious restrictions come .... And this is the beginning of the 21 century .... And the feeling is that in the 16 century ...
      6. Maxom75
        Maxom75 22 October 2015 10: 13 New
        +2
        It’s just that women are not clogged with clichés, but part of society may be the best. In ISIS and SA, a woman did not go far from a sheep.
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 22 October 2015 12: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: Maxom75
          It’s just that women are not clogged with clichés, but part of society may be the best. In ISIS and SA, a woman did not go far from a sheep.

          Someone finally said a deal
      7. Pimply
        Pimply 22 October 2015 12: 11 New
        0
        Quote: Haettenschweiler
        - It’s very, very big if. In general, there are surprisingly many armed women in the photograph. Are the Kurds men over?

        To begin with, the Kurds, which are extremely rare among Middle Eastern peoples, the real equality of men and women,
      8. Borets
        Borets 22 October 2015 13: 15 New
        0
        Women with weapons as one of the frightening factors. The Igilovites believe that if he is killed by a woman, he will not be allowed into paradise, and so the Peshmerga created a women's battalion.
      9. Hello
        Hello 22 October 2015 16: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Haettenschweiler
        In general, there are surprisingly many armed women in the photograph. Are the Kurds men over?

        Kurdish women are fighting along with men. wink They have complete equality in this regard, by the way they say they’re fighting well
      10. sodick
        sodick 23 October 2015 16: 21 New
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        Islamists seem to believe that if a woman kills them, they will not go to heaven (or whatever they call them)
    2. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 22 October 2015 06: 58 New
      +1
      I think the Kurds will soon come over to our side, although they already formally coordinate their actions with the USA on it, everything will fall into place soon!
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 22 October 2015 08: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: kod3001
        but formally coordinated with the United States, everything will fall into place soon!

        Ну нам же нужно знать,куда "не нужно" бить!wink
      2. metropolity
        metropolity 22 October 2015 09: 25 New
        0
        Do not go over. Maximum possible neutral cooperation. What the USSR, what Russia has never supported the desire of the Kurds to create their own state.
      3. Pimply
        Pimply 22 October 2015 12: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: kod3001
        I think the Kurds will soon come over to our side, although they already formally coordinate their actions with the USA on it, everything will fall into place soon!

        Assad they do not like a little less than ISIS, do not build illusions
        1. anti-Semite
          anti-Semite 22 October 2015 19: 17 New
          0
          Yes, but they are in no hurry to go beyond their territories
      4. Das Boot
        Das Boot 22 October 2015 18: 05 New
        0
        Quote: kod3001
        I think the Kurds will soon come over to our side

        Kurdoved detective.
        Either naivety, or ...
      5. Hello
        Hello 22 October 2015 18: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: kod3001
        I think the Kurds will soon come over to our side, although they already formally coordinate their actions with the USA on it, everything will fall into place soon!

        Do not have false hopes, otherwise disappointment will come later. wink Kurds side with the Kurds
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 22 October 2015 19: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: Hello
          Kurds side with the Kurds

          yes pepper is clear. It’s necessary, sorry, a nerd, so as not to understand this) And about
          Quote: kod3001
          Kurds will soon come to our side
          - не понял, на чью "нашу" и вообще, кто для курдов "наши". Чел явно не нас (и не вас, евреев) имеет в виду. А кого? Уж не............ laughing
          1. Hello
            Hello 22 October 2015 19: 57 New
            0
            Quote: Das Boot
            - не понял, на чью "нашу" и вообще, кто для курдов "наши". Чел явно не нас (и не вас, евреев) имеет в виду. А кого? Уж не............

            Russia, like the United States, has every chance to tie the Kurds to itself economically and politically. In the case of the creation of a Kurdish state (states), they will need a political counterbalance to Turkey, Iran and the monarchies of the gulf, Russia or China can solve these issues. to recreate economic ties here more options than the first three. (IMHO) hi
            1. anti-Semite
              anti-Semite 22 October 2015 20: 59 New
              0
              Turks will never agree to this, but they mean that the states will not go to NATO
    3. Wolka
      Wolka 22 October 2015 07: 02 New
      +2
      this is the two-pronged task for the Kurds to block Turkey from the north and strike ISIS from the rear, the only question is the price (the creation of Kurdistan), Russia is already breaking the Turks (those abut under the influence of the Yankees), Assad apparently already agreed on the wide autonomy of the Kurds in Syria ...
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 22 October 2015 19: 05 New
        0
        Quote: Volka
        the only question is price (creation of Kurdistan)

        Kurdistan is a chimera. The inspectors refused a long time ago. Rather, there are many small Kurdish people. More precisely, four. Funny - do you see this as one of the keys to silence and ironing on BV? Personally, I do not.
        1. Hello
          Hello 22 October 2015 19: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: Das Boot
          Rather, there are many small Kurdistan people. More precisely, four.

          Rather, two are possibly three. Iraqi, Syrian-Turkish, and possibly but doubtfully Iranian. hi
          Quote: Das Boot
          Funny - do you see this as one of the keys to silence and ironing on BV? Personally, I do not.

          Quiet and smooth here as it was not and will not be with or without Kurdistan
    4. Ded_smerch
      Ded_smerch 22 October 2015 07: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: avvg
      If Turkey will not interfere with the Kurds

      for the Turks, the Kurdish liberation army is a direct threat to the integrity of the country; therefore, they will continue to bomb until Syria regains full control over its territory. http://ttolk.ru/?p=19308
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 22 October 2015 19: 43 New
        0
        Quote: Ded_smerch
        for the Turks, the Kurdish liberation army is a direct threat to the integrity of the country, therefore they will continue to bomb

        what about the terrorist component? If for Kurds all means are good, then for Turks too. No? Will be wet in the urinals. What's wrong?
  2. 1goose3
    1goose3 22 October 2015 06: 49 New
    +2
    Sooner or later, the Kurds will learn to choose friends. Of course it would be better sooner. Yes, and the choice has appeared.
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 22 October 2015 06: 56 New
      0
      When they get bombs from the coalition (by mistake), then they will choose friends more carefully.
      1. sovetskyturist
        sovetskyturist 22 October 2015 07: 21 New
        +9
        When the coalition receives bombs on their heads (by mistake), then
        by mistake and just like that, bombs don’t fall, that’s why the people captured on video also wanted to get democracy [well, or the caliph]
        1. GOgaRu
          GOgaRu 22 October 2015 08: 07 New
          +1
          Там что Миг-21? "У русских что-то отвалилось"-подразумевается, что наши летчики в Сирии рассекают на 21-х?
          1. sssla
            sssla 22 October 2015 08: 27 New
            +2
            Quote: GOgaRu
            Там что Миг-21? "У русских что-то отвалилось"-подразумевается, что наши летчики в Сирии рассекают на 21-х?

            Have you already lost your sense of humor ????? I liked the clip class !!! And you, my friend, don’t bother watching the news and there they show in sufficient detail what types of aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria)
            1. Das Boot
              Das Boot 22 October 2015 08: 33 New
              +1
              Quote: sssla
              Have you already lost your sense of humor ????? I liked the clip class !!!

              yeah, especially the spirit in flip flops laughing
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    2. Ded_smerch
      Ded_smerch 22 October 2015 07: 23 New
      0
      They chose legibly while the USSR was alive, and then in the 90s they stopped supporting them from the Russian Federation on this and agreed with those who wanted to talk to them.
    3. Das Boot
      Das Boot 22 October 2015 19: 16 New
      0
      Quote: 1goose3
      Sooner or later, the Kurds will learn to choose friends.

      and whom do you prophesy to their friends? Could it be us?
  3. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 22 October 2015 06: 57 New
    +1
    плохо когда народы делятся на племена. поди,разберись в этой каше! сегодня "дружим" против тех,завтра-против этих... what
    1. Haettenschweiler
      Haettenschweiler 22 October 2015 07: 03 New
      -3
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      плохо когда народы делятся на племена. поди,разберись в этой каше! сегодня "дружим" против тех,завтра-против этих...


      - Помочь Асаду и валить на сверхзвуковой оттуда. Пусть хоть скушают друг друга, ввязываться в местечковую кашу "сунниты против шиитов" явно не стоит.
  4. Mercury
    Mercury 22 October 2015 07: 00 New
    +2
    It is necessary to establish communication with the Kurds along the way, they are really moderate opposition and enemies to the Turks. And the Turks are friends of the Isis. I think Assad will agree with the Kurds later.
    1. Haettenschweiler
      Haettenschweiler 22 October 2015 07: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Mercury
      It is necessary to establish communication with the Kurds along the way, they are really moderate opposition and enemies to the Turks. And the Turks are friends of the Isis. I think Assad will agree with the Kurds later.


      - А Турция - лучший друг "Газпрома", покуда "Турецкий поток" строится.
      1. Mercury
        Mercury 22 October 2015 08: 44 New
        -1
        We also had enough robbers first Cossacks then Chechnya and Dagestan. Gasprom risks making friends with the Turks
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 22 October 2015 12: 25 New
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      Quote: Mercury
      .I think Assad will then agree with the Kurds.

      Assad Kurds do not like a little less ISIS
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 October 2015 07: 10 New
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    Курды не доверяют Асаду. Почему - мы не знаем, есть наверное, "скелеты в шкафу". Видимо, на переговорах в Москве и об этом речь была.
    1. Hello
      Hello 22 October 2015 19: 00 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Курды не доверяют Асаду. Почему - мы не знаем, есть наверное, "скелеты в шкафу". Видимо, на переговорах в Москве и об этом речь была.

      Taki Assad spread them a little bit.
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Конфликт_в_Сирийском_Курдистане
  6. ratfly
    ratfly 22 October 2015 07: 11 New
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    There is a lot of talk about the Kurds, but to no avail. They were fucked by everyone and sundry (Turks, Saddam, ISIS ...) The Angles did not take them into account when they drew these smooth borders on the map. As a result, the Kurds do not have their own official state. They are to blame for something on their own, the state is an organized structure created around its leader (group of leaders, elite). And if they could not organize themselves, no one will do this for you (in fact, Russia has spawned artificially created states around itself, but the Kurds are too far away).
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 October 2015 07: 14 New
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    Let’s put it this way: the Kurds are solving their tasks, the Turks are quiet under their noise, and the United States uses this to its advantage if possible.
  8. bashkort
    bashkort 22 October 2015 07: 26 New
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    Since the Middle Ages, the Kurds have become famous as the first thieves of those places. As for creative work, they have stress. Therefore, it is not surprising that they never created their own state. Both Turks and Arabs know this best of all, therefore they are hindering the creation of Kurdistan as a potential crap for their national security. If such a state is created, it will automatically turn into a likeness of Albania for Europe, or Chechnya 1994-1998.
    1. Hello
      Hello 22 October 2015 19: 06 New
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      Quote: bashkort
      about the Middle Ages, the Kurds became famous as the first robbers of those places

      Oh, whoever only in the Middle Ages did not rob for example the Swedes, and now they live quietly and peacefully.
      Quote: bashkort
      As for creative work, they have stress. Therefore, it is not surprising that they never created their own state.

      And the fact that, for example, the Druze did not create their own state, suggests that they have tension with creation? Or Alawites? Or Copts?
      Quote: bashkort
      Turks and Arabs know this best of all, therefore they are hindering the creation of Kurdistan as a potential crap for their national security.

      I don’t know which Turks are the creators, but the Kurds are clearly creating the worse Arabs.
  9. mamont5
    mamont5 22 October 2015 08: 14 New
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    Quote: avvg
    If Turkey will not interfere with the Kurds


    - It's very, very big if a. In general, there are surprisingly many armed women in the photograph. Are the Kurds men over?

    There is a civil war and ALL who can fight go into battle. Who wishes, of course.
  10. mamont5
    mamont5 22 October 2015 08: 20 New
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    Quote: bashkort
    Since the Middle Ages, the Kurds have become famous as the first thieves of those places. As for creative work, they have stress. Therefore, it is not surprising that they never created their own state.

    Well, skills should come in handy in this situation. And as for the Kurdish country ... They tried more than once, but for a long time did not exist, there were too many people who wanted to and land. And you can recall the Kurdish Sultan of Syria and Egypt Salladin (Salah ad-Din), who led the fight against the crusaders during the Crusades and successfully beat them, liberating Jerusalem and destroying the states created by the crusaders in Palestine.
    1. traveler
      traveler 22 October 2015 08: 45 New
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      and who else can you remember?
      but even if we are talking about saladdin, the Ayyubid sultanate was not a Kurdish state, it was another Gulam (Mameluk) state formation, based on Turkic mercenaries. The Saladdin’s army was based on the same Seljuks as its zengid opponents.
  11. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 22 October 2015 08: 30 New
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    У Курдов, древняя история, они смогли сохранять свою идентичность несмотря ни на что.Англичане,участвуя в формировании границ создали очаг напряженности,как они любят делать.К чему приведёт "сотрудничество"--скоро узнаем.
  12. Engineer
    Engineer 22 October 2015 08: 51 New
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    Quote: V.ic

    Look at the photos of the Israeli military ... Are the men over the Jews?

    It’s time to already mean that in Israel, women are drafted into the army. A radical decision, but had to survive.
  13. xin-l
    xin-l 22 October 2015 09: 18 New
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    Women are still fighting there because if a woman kills you, then there is no paradise and no gurus. And they are fighting skillfully.
    As for the Kurds, well, let’s see we need this Aleppo-Raqqa denoue, and our Kurds will be helped, they will be covered from the air if the Turks try to bomb them. I don’t know where the Americans fit in. If only they decided not to quarrel with the Turks at the end. I think it suits us. Because Aleppo is gradually taken into the ring, and if they help us from the other side, then this is only in our favor. So the autonomy of the Kurds in Syria to be, the truth will not allow the Kurds to create Kurdistan, for Turkey it will be like death. So everything is going as it should.
    1. traveler
      traveler 22 October 2015 09: 32 New
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      Women are still fighting there because if a woman kills you, then there is no paradise and no gurus

      Yes, you are a theologian, an Islamic scholar, probably.
      the truth will not allow the Kurds to create Kurdistan, for Turkey it will be like death

      In fact, Turkey is one of the main sponsors and allies of Iraqi Kurdistan, the problem of the Syrian Kurds with respect to Turkey is not that they are Kurds, but that they are headed by the same anarchist-communist characters as in the RPK. if you think of them as a Naqshbandi Sheikh Barzani, you would look and heal differently, the Turks would also help them recover from the war.
      1. Asadullah
        Asadullah 22 October 2015 10: 27 New
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        Think of them for yourself Naqshbandi Sheikh Barzani


        I don’t understand, do you write this absurdity from the presence of a smart person, or is it such a cunning game of a fool?
        1. traveler
          traveler 22 October 2015 23: 57 New
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          and what is the absurdity?
          in what I called Masuda Barzani Sheikh? officially the president, of course, autonomy. but where is he from?
          the fact that if there were Syrian Kurds under his leadership, their support for the PKK would become minimal, if not zero, and therefore relations with Turkey would noticeably improve, this is certainly from the field of speculation, but in Iraqi Kurdistan it is.
          just barzani chose the path to cooperation, because to be on the counter with all those around him - Arabs, Turks, Persians, this is obviously a loss. at this historical stage, a real, small, independent Kurdistan is better than pipe dreams of a great Kurdistan - a bird in their hands is better than a crane in ...
          1. Hello
            Hello 23 October 2015 00: 32 New
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            Quote: traveler
            and what is the absurdity?

            The absurdity is that the Turks are friends with the Iraqi Kurds only because they are Iraqi, and also in great friction with the Syrian and Turkish Kurds. I won’t be surprised if the Turks are friends or want to be friends with Iranian Kurds
            1. traveler
              traveler 23 October 2015 01: 05 New
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              I don’t understand, is Turkey and Iraqi Kurdistan on good terms or did it seem to me?
              RPK and their Rozhavsky branch are opponents of Barzani or am I mistaken again?

              I won’t be surprised if the Turks are friends or want to be friends with Iranian Kurds

              perhaps
  14. S-cream
    S-cream 22 October 2015 09: 24 New
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    Я, конечно, вещаю "с дивана" и многого не знаю и не вижу, но приходит мне мысль в голову такая: почему бы Асаду не пообещать курдам автономию? Думаю, это было бы выгодно с военной точки зрения сейчас. И неплохо с политической точки зрения потом, когда террористов добьют.
    1. metropolity
      metropolity 22 October 2015 09: 37 New
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      Quote: S-cream
      Я, конечно, вещаю "с дивана" и многого не знаю и не вижу, но приходит мне мысль в голову такая: почему бы Асаду не пообещать курдам автономию? Думаю, это было бы выгодно с военной точки зрения сейчас. И неплохо с политической точки зрения потом, когда террористов добьют.

      Assad has already agreed to autonomy. Slipped somewhere.
  15. AlexTires
    AlexTires 22 October 2015 09: 31 New
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    If the Kurds want to achieve at least autonomy within Syria, they need to coordinate their actions with Russia and with the Syrian government forces, because the United States and the company will never allow them to, as they will not want to ruin relations with Turkey ...
    1. Asadullah
      Asadullah 22 October 2015 10: 46 New
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      If the Kurds want to achieve at least autonomy within Syria, they need ....


      Kurds de facto live in autonomy, de jure, there was always one obstacle, a complication of relations with Turkey until the war. And vice versa, Assad’s refusal to engage in dialogue with the Kurds led to a warming of relations with Turkey. In those years, cross-border trade flourished and the border regions grew rich. Today, of course, everything is different, and many mistakes may have been made, but the problem of Turkey remains. Turks will never allow the creation of any legal union of Kurds. The only exception is Iran, but the Turks have no influence on Iran. In general, the creation of Kurdistan on the territory of today's Iraq is a matter of time, but I doubt that it meets the interests of at least some country in the region. Kurds in the Middle East, like a rock on a field, cannot be removed, but they cannot be plowed.
  16. 0255
    0255 22 October 2015 10: 05 New
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    According to some reports, Kurdish militias intend to coordinate their actions with a coalition led by the Americans

    Do Americans want to use Kurds against Russia and Assad?
    1. avt
      avt 22 October 2015 10: 27 New
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      Quote: 0255
      Do Americans want to use Kurds against Russia and Assad?

      Не хотят , а вполне себе используют .Да к тому же добавляют геморроя Турции вполне себе конкретного . Если так дальше пойдет , да еще Эрдоган не наберет большинства на выборах - запалят Турцию как Сурию.Вот тогда Европе вполне конкретный кердык ,ну всем этим ,,арийцам" и прочим коренным туземцам Европы - носителям новой рэволюционной кричалки , ну вместо старого -,,либертэ, игалитэ, фгонтолитэ"c их новым эуропэйским -,,демократия, толлерантность,педерастия".
  17. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 October 2015 10: 22 New
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    Kurds gain the right to their territory.
    Do it right.
    If Assad will give them the opportunity to build autonomy on the border with Turkey,
    then it will be the best defense against ISs that come from that side.
    1. avt
      avt 22 October 2015 10: 39 New
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      Quote: Zomanus
      If Assad will give them the opportunity to build autonomy on the border with Turkey

      No. You read the article inattentively
      On the eve of the Kurds announced the proclamation of a new province adjacent to the Turkish border. According to a Vesti correspondent, the city of Tel-Abbyad, previously recaptured from terrorist groups, will enter it. At the same time, in Ankara, considering the Kurdish units themselves as “terrorist structures”, they express concern about Kurdish activation on the Turkish borders.
      They ALREADY do this and precisely with the blessing of the Yankees - it painfully looks like what happened in Iraq after Saddam, putting Assad before the fact. And Ankara really has something to twitch about - these Kurds are not Iraqi Borzans, they really know how to fight and everyone will remember Erdogan and the Turks in general - they will not forgive the bombing.
  18. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 22 October 2015 10: 47 New
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    Quote: Mercury
    It is necessary to establish communication with the Kurds along the way, they are really moderate opposition and enemies to the Turks. And the Turks are friends of the Isis. I think Assad will agree with the Kurds later.

    Already, Americans are trying to get in, i.e. the creation of the Kurdish State is another hotbed of tension. As always, it is to divide and rule
  19. Leeder
    Leeder 22 October 2015 11: 03 New
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    Quote: voyaka uh
    "В армию Израиля призывают и мужчин, и женщин!"///
    Part - instructors (a girl instructor raises motivation in the courses of a young fighter).

    For me, the instructor should be an ideal to follow, i.e. an army ideal with unrealistic indicators for beginners in the subject that it teaches, and in all others, a kind of Terminator with steel eggs. And a woman, all the more attractive, will distract from the training process the youngsters, who have testosterone in their pants. Those. IMHO it is impossible to learn from someone for whom an erection! laughing
  20. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 22 October 2015 12: 23 New
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    Ох,не с теми "союзничками" курды связались,не с теми No. !
    1. Hello
      Hello 22 October 2015 16: 45 New
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      Quote: gladysheff2010
      Ох,не с теми "союзничками" курды связались,не с теми !

      Well, you, as little Kurds, need their own state and arms supplies, whoever gives them the first one they will be friends with and will be. In general, it seems to me that they are not averse to maintaining normal relations with Russia and the USA as well, their chances for their state are growing . hi
  21. cniza
    cniza 22 October 2015 13: 56 New
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    Quote: gladysheff2010
    Ох,не с теми "союзничками" курды связались,не с теми No. !



    I think they understand perfectly, but they want to use every opportunity to bend their line.
  22. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 23 October 2015 21: 03 New
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    Вообще-то американцы подтягивают курдов к своим действиям для того, чтобы те помогли им захватить г.Ракка - т.н. столица ИГ, боясь что это раньше сделает армия САР. СГА это нужно чтобы на этой территории создать противовес Асаду из якобы "умеренных" повстанцев, что может вызвать раздел Сирии как и раздел Германии после ее разгрома.Союзнички 4года наблюдали кто кого, а потом лихо примкнули к настоящему победителю. Точно также они собираются действовать и в Сирии, но уже руками курдов, обещая им, наивным, создание Курдистана на территории Сирии. Турцию они им не сдадут - это факт. А в случае заварушки между курдами и "умеренными" поддержут ясно кого! Боюсь как бы курды не просчитались понадеявшись на обещания янки. soldier