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Service and combat use of the Su-24 front-line bomber. Part 1

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In the light of the operation of the Russian VKS, deployed in the Syrian Arab Republic, the attention of foreign and domestic media once again attracted one of the most recently discussed Russian combat aircraft - Su-24M.

Previously, this front-line bomber was heavily criticized for its high accident rate, operational complexity and “outdated design”. The opinion of “experts” and officials of the Russian Ministry of Defense about the necessity of decommissioning these aircraft was repeatedly published in print and online publications. Now, in the same media, the combat effectiveness of the upgraded Su-24М is very high, according to the results of attacks on IG facilities. In the photo and video coming from Syria, the combat work of the “obsolete” Su-24М is demonstrated even more often than the more modern Su-34. In fairness, it should be said that the Su-24 family of bombers have always been controversial.

On the one hand, this plane has in many respects still not been surpassed in the Russian air force by the possibility of a breakthrough of air defense and the application of high-precision rocket-bomb strikes. For a long time it was equipped with the most advanced among other domestic winged percussion machines with sighting and navigation equipment.

On the other hand, Su-24 did not forgive piloting errors and negligence of ground maintenance. Since its inception, this aircraft has earned a very strict reputation. This is largely due to the fact that the designers in the pursuit of high performance even at the design stage laid many new technical solutions that were not previously used in other domestic combat aircraft.

The first serial Su-24 in 1973 year entered the Lipetsk Center for combat use and retraining of flight personnel. The first military unit that began to master the Su-24 in 1974 was the Kerch Red Banner 63-th BAP stationed in the Kaliningrad region, before that it was armed with Yak-28B aircraft.

Service and combat use of the Su-24 front-line bomber. Part 1

One of the first production Su-24s at the Museum aviation Air Force technicians in Monino


In the initial period of operation, when the technical reliability of the aircraft was rather low, the necessary experience was not accumulated, and it was not possible to get rid of most of the “childhood ills”, the reputation of the Su-24 among the flight crew was largely saved by the reliable ejection seats of the K-XNUMHD. As well as initially a large margin of safety, often in the event of an emergency landing, even though the aircraft could not be restored after that, the crew remained unharmed.

Compared with its predecessors, the front bomber Il-28 and Yak-28B supersonic Su-24 had more than doubled the bomb load and could carry almost the entire spectrum of the then-guided aviation armament of front-line attack aircraft. Due to the variable geometry of the wing, the Su-24 had the ability to make low-altitude high-speed throws, while having good take-off and landing characteristics. Especially for this front-line bomber, large-caliber one-and-a-half bombs FAB-1500С were created with aerodynamically perfect hull shape.

The large range and complexity of the use of certain types of guided weapons and "special ammunition" led to the fact that in the bomber regiments had to introduce "specialization". In combat training of one or two squadrons, emphasis was placed on the use of X-23M and X-28 guided air-to-air missiles, another squadron was preparing to use nuclear weapon.

The fact that the Su-24 in the USSR was considered as one of the main carriers of tactical nuclear weapons was reflected in the appearance of the aircraft. On all the Su-24 combatants, a special paint with a highly reflective white coating was applied to the nose, front edges of the wing and the lower part of the fuselage. Part of the Su-24 was completed with curtains to protect the crew from blinding with a flash of a nuclear explosion.

Unlike the first Su-7B and Su-17, built on AZiG and originally entered service in combat regiments stationed in the Far East, Su-24, which were produced in Novosibirsk, were mainly sent to Western airfields. An exception was the 277 th Mlavsky Red Banner BAP, based at the Khurba airfield at Komsomolsk-on-Amur, which in 1975 was one of the first in the Air Force to change its IL-28 to Su-24.

Despite the fact that until the end of 70's, the reliability of a number of Su-24 electronic systems left much to be desired, in the 1979 year, these machines armed three bomber regiments deployed in the territory of the GDR. Soon, at the disposal of the Western press and special services appeared high-quality photos of the Su-24, as well as the real name of the aircraft became known.



At that time, foreign intelligence paid particular attention to the Su-24. In the West, they rightly feared that a front bomber, literally stuffed with numerous technical innovations, by virtue of its high speed and impact characteristics, could change the balance of power in Western Europe. Even with a low-altitude flight profile, the Su-24, based in East Germany, could strike targets in the UK, France, the Netherlands and Northern Italy.

In the first half of the 80-s, most of the aiming and navigation equipment of the Su-24 combat units reached an acceptable level of reliability. At the plant in Novosibirsk, where construction was carried out, improvements were introduced from series to series. Changes were made to the mechanization of the wing, electrical equipment, navigation systems, radio intelligence and state recognition.

A very important feature of the Su-24 is the high degree of interchangeability of nodes and some large units. This allowed for urgent repairs in combat conditions to move the damaged part or assembly from one machine to another.

Su-24 bombers (without the letter “M”) in 80-s were refined to allow the use of new anti-radar missiles X-58, for which a suspension was provided in the container of the “Phantasmagoria” target station.

To maintain a high combat potential in the new conditions and eliminate a number of deficiencies in the design of the aircraft and the avionics, almost immediately after the Su-24 was put into service, the design bureau began to develop an improved version of the front bomber with higher operational and combat characteristics. In 1984, the Su-24M entered service.

The most noticeable external difference from the Su-24 was the longer nasal part, which received a slight downward slope. Installing an air refueling system significantly increased the combat range. Another innovation was the sighting and navigation station PNS-24М "Tigr", which includes the search radar "Orion-A" and the radar "Relief", with the help of which the flight is carried out at extremely low altitude with rounding of the terrain. The introduction of the Seagull, instead of an electron-optical reticle, of the new Kaira-24 sighting system with a laser range finder, a target designator and a television unit, made it possible to use new types of high-precision guided aircraft weapons.

The laser-television station LTPS-24 "Kaira-24", thanks to a special prism made of ultra-pure glass, deflected the rays to an angle of up to 160 degrees down and back, could "see" the reflected signal from the target laser target indicator falling into the lens of the tracking camera in horizontal flight bomber when the target was behind him. This made it possible to use guided weapons even in a gentle climb. Prior to this, front-line aircraft could use weapons from a laser seeker only with a dive.



The introduction of the Su-24M avionics with the new sighting equipment gave the bomber a “second wind” and the possibilities that no Soviet combat aircraft had before. The front-line bomber ammunition was replenished with adjustable bombs KAB-500L, KAB-1500L and guided C-25L, X-25, X-29L missiles with semi-active laser homing heads. The Kaira-24 sighting system television indicator was also used for targeting X-29T guided missiles and KAB-500Kr adjustable bombs.


Rocket X-59


Heavy X-59 guided missiles with a 40 km launch range and KAB-1500ТК bombs could be used to attack fortified targets covered with strong air defense. To do this, the aircraft was suspended on a container APK-9 with television control equipment. The planning range of the KAB-1500ТК and the launch of the X-59 made it possible to hit targets that were covered with a small-range air defense missile system without entering their zone of operation. In some ways, only the MiG-24K fighter-bomber could compete with the Su-27K sighting system Kaira in terms of the use of guided weapons in the Soviet air forces. But compared with the Su-24M, which carried a much greater bomb load and had a greater range of fighter-bombers, the MiG-27 of this modification was not built much.

But not all the improvements and innovations were definitely successful. As it often happens, winning in one - lost in the other. The pilots who previously piloted the Su-24, during the transition to the Su-24M, noted a deterioration in handling on turns. Due to the introduction of the "aerodynamic knives", the flight range fell somewhat.



The transition to the Su-24M with its new aiming and navigation complex of the flight crew passed fairly quickly. Certain difficulties in the development of a new, more complex avionics arose from the engineering service.

In 1985, reconnaissance Su-24MR began to arrive in the troops. At that time, the Soviet Air Forces experienced an acute need for a tactical reconnaissance aircraft with an increased range, which could conduct not only aerial photography, but also radio reconnaissance.

Unlike the bomber, the reconnaissance version of the "twenty-four" is deprived of the opportunity to carry the bomb load. Pylons can be used to hang two outboard fuel tanks PTB-2000 or PTB-3000, or lighting bombs to provide photography at night.

For self-defense on the Su-24MR suspended rocket melee P-60. The main "weapon" of the reconnaissance aircraft is side-looking radar, aerial cameras, as well as removable outboard containers that house equipment for electronic and radiation reconnaissance, as well as laser systems.

Theoretically, the Su-24MR provides comprehensive reconnaissance at any time of day, to a depth of 400 km from the line of military contact of troops. But in the troops, the Su-24MR’s flight and technical staff are quite skeptical about the capabilities of remote transmission of reconnaissance equipment.

In practice, the equipment with which the information from the aircraft of the reconnaissance aircraft was supposed to be transmitted in real time did not work reliably. As a rule, intelligence was obtained with some delay. After the flight, the blocks of information storage and film with the results of aerial photography are sent to decryption, which means the loss of efficiency and the possible exit of mobile targets from the planned impact. In addition, data collection with the help of aerial cameras in the presence of the enemy advanced air defense system is always fraught with considerable risk of losing reconnaissance aircraft, which happened more than once during real combat operations.

The new Su-24M front-line bombers came mainly to the regiments that had previously operated the Su-24. But, in contrast to, say, the Su-17 fighter-bombers, whose early modifications were put into storage as more advanced versions arrived, the Su-24 front-line bombers continued to fly even to the full development of the resource.


Su-24 naval aviation at the airfield Guards


An example of the longevity of the Su-24 (without the letter “M”) is that the aircraft of this modification, belonging to the 43-th Sevastopol Red Banner Order of Kutuzov, had a separate naval attack aviation regiment based at the Guards Airfield in the Crimea, until recently they were lifted into the air. After the annexation of the Crimea to Russia, it was decided to re-equip this regiment with more modern machines, which the leadership of Ukraine had previously opposed. Until now, several Su-24s at the airfield in Guards are in flying condition and can, if necessary, accomplish a combat mission. But the age of these bombers is approaching 40 years, these are the most honored Russian combat aircraft of front-line aviation.

The used Su-24 re-armed aviation regiments in the rear military districts. There are cases when not only bomber and fighter-bomber air regiments passed on them, but also fighter ones, armed with which before that were air defense interceptors.

To a large extent, this demonstrated the importance the Soviet military leadership attached to this front-line bomber, which, in addition to high impact capabilities, laid a large margin of safety. Despite the high price, the complexity of operation and the accident rate, a total of about 1993 Su-1200 of various modifications was built before the end of production in 24. For comparison, the F-111, which is considered to be an analogue of the Su-24, was built in the USA in two times less - the 563 aircraft. Operation of the F-111 ended in the 1998 year.

There is information about the conversion of a certain amount of Su-24 into aircraft tankers Su-24T (tanker). Small series built aircraft EW Su-24MP (jammer). From the Su-24M they externally differed by the presence of a small fairing in the nose. The plane was set up very sophisticated for the beginning of 80-s complex of jamming "Lily of the valley." It was intended primarily for organizing opposition to the air defense system stations, including the American “Patriot”, which was only just beginning to enter service.


Su-24MP


As conceived by the developers, the built-in and suspended container equipment of the Su-24MP was supposed to provide group protection for the Su-24 bombers under the conditions of operations of a well-organized enemy air defense system. The first Su-24MP were operated in "test mode". Due to the great complexity, the reliability of the REP “Landysh” complex was low, the collapse of the USSR did not allow to bring this equipment to the performance characteristics that satisfied the military.

In the same way as the Su-24MR reconnaissance engineer, the Su-24MP jammer from a weapon carried only the P-60 air combat missiles. After the collapse of the USSR, all the Su-24MP combat troops remained in Ukraine (the 118-th separate air regiment of REP aircraft in Chertkovo).

In 80-e for the Su-24 was developed universal suspension unit refueling (ORM), which was later used on other types of combat aircraft.



Due to the absence of the internal bomb-landing package of the Su-24, the UPAZ was made suspended. A turbine is used to drive the fuel pump, which is driven by the oncoming air flow. For refueling the unit has a hose length of about 30 meters. Refueling begins automatically after a reliable docking cone with the bar of the refueled aircraft.


Su-24M with suspended ORM and outboard fuel tanks


In 1984, it was decided to "run around" the Su-24 in real combat conditions. The mountains of Afghanistan were completely unlike the European plains, for the actions on which this front-line bomber was conceived. In Afghanistan, a low-speed high-speed flight mode designed to break through air defense proved to be unclaimed. Lack of large radio contrast targets, such as enemy columns tanks or bridges, and the features of the terrain did not make it possible to fully realize the capabilities of the sighting and navigation complex.

There was no particular difference in the effectiveness of the air strikes inflicted by the Su-24 149 Guards Red Banner BAP and the upgraded Su-24М 43 BN. At the same time, it was noted that, despite the lack of preliminary training and the crew’s lack of knowledge of the target area, these front-line bombers experienced no difficulties with navigation and carried a much greater bomb load compared to other fighters, fighter-bombers and attack aircraft.

Su-24 turned out to be the only front-line aircraft under which powerful FAB-1500 was hung. In addition, the large range of the “twenty-fours” allowed them to be based outside Afghanistan, on Soviet airfields in Central Asia.

To ensure the operation of the Su-24 sighting systems, the An-30 and Su-17М3Р reconnaissance aircraft carried out aerial photography in the area of ​​the alleged air strikes, as well as the exact coordinates of the targets.

In the course of the assault on the fortification of the Akhmat Shah Masud area in the Panshsky gorge, there was a moment when, due to weather conditions, the Su-24 was the only combat aircraft providing air support to the advancing troops.

The next time, the Su-24 was shaken by the Afghan mountains with the roar of its engines and the explosions of 1988-1989 in the winter, covering the exit of the 40 Army. As in the 1984 operation, high-explosive aerial bombs weighing 250-500 kg were mainly used. The obvious advantage of the Su-24 - the ability to deliver fairly accurate strikes from remote home-based airfields, regardless of the weather conditions in the target area, was confirmed. In Afghanistan, the Su-24 flew at altitudes not lower than 5000 m, beyond the reach of MANPADS.

After the collapse of the USSR, Su-24 of various modifications, except Russia, went to Azerbaijan (11 units), Belarus (42 units), Kazakhstan (27 units), Ukraine (200) units. and Uzbekistan (30 units).

Azerbaijani Su-24 front-line bombers and Su-24MR reconnaissance aircraft were used in the conflict with Armenia in the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. One Azerbaijani Su-24MR crashed, crashing into a mountainside. At the same time, the defense forces of Nagorno-Karabakh ascribe this victory to themselves.

Uzbekistan in 1993 used Su-24М for bombing the camps and villages occupied by the Tajik armed opposition during the civil war in Tajikistan. Apparently, they were not ruled by ethnic Uzbeks. The Uzbek authorities acknowledged the loss of one front-line bomber shot down from Stinger MANPADS. Crew members managed to successfully eject, and they were picked up by a search and rescue helicopter.


Uzbek Su-24M at Karshi airbase


In August, 1999 of the year in Tajikistan, residents of several villages rallied over the alleged bomb strike that was inflicted by four Su-24M of unidentified affiliation. As a result of the bombing of human victims there was no, but, as the protesters stated, about 100 livestock heads died, and the crops were set on fire. Perhaps the purpose of this demonstration bombardment was the “intimidation action” of the opposition Tajik field commanders.


Satellite image Google Earth: Su-24 Uzbekistan Air Force at Karshi airfield


In 2001, the Uzbek Su-24M, supporting the "Northern Alliance", attacked the Taliban's positions. One bomber was shot down, both crew members died. At present, all the surviving Uzbek Su-24 are “stored”.

An interesting case is related to the “twenty-fours” inherited to Ukraine, which was forever included in history Air Force of Russia and Ukraine. February 13 1992 from the Ukrainian Starokonstantinov airfield, where the 6 BAP airplanes were based, 6 Su-24M soared. Bombers landed at a Russian airfield in Shatalovo near Smolensk. The main motive of the pilots who hijacked the Su-24M to Russia was the unwillingness to swear allegiance to the new Ukrainian authorities. In this case, the banner 6-th BAP was taken to Russia by car. 12 people, including five regimental commanders of various ranks, including the chief of staff of the regiment, left Ukraine together with their bombers. This story, which happened on the eve of the meeting of the leaders of the CIS in Minsk, received a great response.

The fate of the “twenty-fours” hijacked from Ukraine turned out to be unenviable. Having removed, in general, the banner of an aviation regiment in Russia, which was useless, the pilots, some of whom were in considerable ranks, for some reason did not bring with them the forms for the main units — the airframe and the engines. Operation without the forms according to the existing rules of combat aircraft is impossible, since it is not known how long the aircraft spent in the air, when and what types of maintenance and repairs took place. This is especially true for the AL-21F-3 engines, the overhaul life of which is 400 hours, and the 1992 hours assigned to the 1800 year.

As a result, no one began to take responsibility and bother with the restoration of technical documentation. All the "Ukrainian" Su-24M in Shatalovo were "under the fence." Where they were “buried”, using as “donors”, dismantling some “non-critical” units and parts from them.

Currently, all Ukrainian Su-24М and Su-24МР are concentrated in Starokonstantinov, which became famous in 1992, where the 7 Brigade of tactical aviation is based. Brigade planes took part in the ATO in the south-east of Ukraine, where they lost three combat vehicles from anti-aircraft guns and MANPADS. Apparently, the Ukrainian pilots, using unmanaged types of aircraft armament, neglected the “golden” rule for the Su-24 - in combat missions against irregular armed formations that have small-caliber anti-aircraft installations and MANPADS, do not descend below 5000 meters.

The author is grateful to the "Ancient" for the advice

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  1. avia12005
    avia12005 26 October 2015 07: 50 New
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    Yes, I will never forget how the regiment Su-24 on the Aginsky proving ground in Transbaikalia "cracked" in the trash a column on the hill ...
    1. Bongo
      26 October 2015 08: 00 New
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      Quote: avia12005
      Yes, I will never forget how the regiment Su-24 on the Aginsky proving ground in Transbaikalia "cracked" in the trash a column on the hill ...

      He can yes Now the modernized Su-24M are being carried into the trash of terrorists in Syria.
  2. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign 26 October 2015 08: 15 New
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    Many human thanks to the author for the material and greetings from veterans of the 63rd Kerch Red Banner BAP (military unit 21917), a regiment in which military and state tests of this aircraft took place.
    In the seventies he was a kid and at night climbed with friends on the roof of the house to watch how beautifully and powerfully these planes of the 63rd and 4th regiments take off.
    SU-24 - the workhorse of front-line bomber aviation for 40 years! Glory to the Soviet and Russian Air Force-VKS! ..
    1. Bongo
      26 October 2015 08: 17 New
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      Quote: Scary Warrant Officer
      Many human thanks to the author for the material and greetings from veterans of the 63 Kerch Red Banner BAP (military unit 21917)

      You are welcome! drinks Himself in childhood often observed the flights of the Su-24 277-th BAP from Khurba.
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    3. gjv
      gjv 26 October 2015 10: 26 New
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      Quote: Scary Warrant Officer
      SU-24 - the workhorse of front-line bomber aviation for 40 years! Glory to the Soviet and Russian Air Force-VKS! ..


      Su-24M in Latakia at the Hmeimim air base, Syria. October 2015
  3. rassom
    rassom 26 October 2015 08: 19 New
    +9
    Thank you for the article!
  4. tchoni
    tchoni 26 October 2015 10: 35 New
    +7
    But, nevertheless, 24 ka is really, quite an emergency plane. Strict in piloting and maintenance. During a service in Voronezh for 6 years, two dryers fell in my memory ..
    1. Terrible ensign
      Terrible ensign 26 October 2015 13: 06 New
      +9
      He lived in Chernyakhovsk near the airfield for almost eight years. At the 24th, at first there was only the 63rd regiment, then the 4th Guards Novgorod on the Su-24 was transplanted from yaks. So, during this period, there were about 12 or 14 crashes of aircraft in about a third of which pilots died. Everlasting memory...
      The technique is very strict, at that time (the 70s) the latest, but my father still recalls with great warmth and colleagues, and developers, and representatives of factories who were constantly in the regiment and brought this machine to perfection.
  5. EvilLion
    EvilLion 26 October 2015 10: 43 New
    +1
    By the way, where are skakly delhi 200 pcs. aircraft? All sawed?
    1. Bongo
      26 October 2015 13: 22 New
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      Quote: EvilLion
      By the way, where are skakly delhi 200 pcs. aircraft? All sawed?

      Unfortunately, not all ... As part of the Ukrainian Air Force, more than 30 Su-24M and MP are currently capable of functioning. All of them are based in Starokonstantinov (pictured). This is mentioned in the publication hi .
  6. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 26 October 2015 11: 26 New
    +5
    Article plus, interestingly thanks.
    How to distinguish the Su-24M from the Su-24MR?
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 26 October 2015 11: 32 New
      +6
      At the radar mark in any way.
    2. avia12005
      avia12005 26 October 2015 11: 33 New
      +1
      The MP has a container under the left plane and under the bottle too.
      1. ancient
        ancient 26 October 2015 16: 50 New
        +9
        Quote: avia12005
        The MP has a container under the left plane and under the bottle too.


        Correct a little, with your permission wink

        1. The container with the “Efir-1M” radiation reconnaissance station is located only on the rotary unit of the RIGHT console, but on the LEFT .. only the twin APU-60-M or APU-60-1M launchers for R-60 or R-60M missiles soldier

  7. Andrey77
    Andrey77 26 October 2015 11: 29 New
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    On the one hand - difficult to manage. On the other hand, a serial (!) Aircraft in service (read, not only for aces). My brain exploded :)
    1. Bongo
      26 October 2015 13: 06 New
      +5
      Quote: Andrey77
      On the one hand - difficult to manage. On the other hand, a serial (!) Aircraft in service (read, not only for aces). My brain exploded :)

      It is more correct "not difficult to manage", but rather strict, not forgiving frank errors and careless attitude to oneself.
      1. Andrey77
        Andrey77 26 October 2015 19: 31 New
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        Ok, and ... ??
  8. kote119
    kote119 26 October 2015 12: 34 New
    +6
    thanks for the article, was in the garrison near Pskov, Lyubimets called a very airplane
    1. ancient
      ancient 26 October 2015 17: 01 New
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      Quote: kote119
      was in the garrison near Pskov, Lyubimets called a very plane impressed


      Well, that were not now crying



      When I first saw .. "this" am , then ..... like a knife to the heart crying , but once it was 9 to 2009 (!!!!!) THE LEADER 722-bap (until the 90th year it was APIB, it flew the MiG-27s, including the stage of factory tests) 90 years on the Su-24's soldier

  9. Wedmak
    Wedmak 26 October 2015 13: 06 New
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    In Syria will be his swan song. Deserved peace and relaxation. Although probably still years 5-7 flies, waiting for the brand new Su-34.
    1. Bongo
      26 October 2015 13: 25 New
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      Quote: Wedmak
      Although probably still years 5-7 flies, waiting for the brand new Su-34.

      I think that 10 will last even more years, especially since it is being seriously modernized now. This will be tomorrow in the second part. hi
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 26 October 2015 13: 51 New
        +7
        This will be tomorrow in the second part.

        Waiting for. Very interesting.
  10. mvg
    mvg 26 October 2015 14: 36 New
    +4
    Good, worthy article. Nice plane, for lack of a better one. But dear. MiG-27 is much inferior, except for the price ...
    It is a pity that during the collapse of the Union all planes were not taken out .. Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine .. why do the Papuans need such equipment (they will either break or break or lose).
    After a worthy modernization, 10-15 years will still serve. Confused the overhaul resource AL-21 at 400 hours .. As far as I remember, the AL-41 was brought to 4000.
    Regarding the "analogue" of F-111 .. The tasks are similar, but the 111 is much more interesting, harder, takes more loads and its electronic filling, at that time, is just a masterpiece ..
    Waiting for part II.
    1. Bongo
      26 October 2015 14: 43 New
      +7
      Quote: mvg
      Good, worthy article.

      Thank you! hi
      Quote: mvg
      But dear. MiG-27 is much inferior, except for the price ...

      MiG-27K is comparable in the possibilities of using guided weapons. But the radius of action, the possibility of action at night, in difficult weather conditions and flights on the PMV-MiG-27 is much inferior. MIG-27K with the Kaira complex were also not released much because of the high cost.
      Quote: mvg
      Regarding the "analogue" of F-111 .. The tasks are similar, but the 111 is much more interesting, harder, takes more loads and its electronic filling, at that time, is just a masterpiece ..

      By the time when the F-111 brought the stuffing to mind the plane began to write off. By the way, the Su-24 is much stronger, on the F-111 there were considerable problems with this.
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      2. 79057330785
        79057330785 28 October 2015 16: 36 New
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        Western planes always fly worse from bad runways, as far as I know with F-111 they took the idea for the Su-24 (crew layout, engine layout, variable wing geometry) Externally, the planes are very similar, although smaller than the B-1 on the Tu-160 and Concord on the Tu-144
        1. Bongo
          29 October 2015 06: 08 New
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          Quote: 79057330785
          Western planes always fly worse from bad runways, as far as I know with F-111 they took the idea for the Su-24 (crew layout, engine layout, variable wing geometry) Externally, the planes are very similar, although smaller than the B-1 on the Tu-160 and Concord on the Tu-144

          The list of analogue aircraft can certainly be continued. yes But when they talk about the "superiority" of the F-111 over the Su-24, they usually compare the later versions of the F-111 with the earlier Su-24 (without the letter "M"). However, at present, the F-111 is not in service, and the Su-24M is actively fighting around the world. The extreme version of the modernization of the Su-24M in the version of the Hephaestus design and development complex has seriously surpassed the F-111 in the possibilities of using weapons.
    2. Bongo
      26 October 2015 14: 50 New
      +5
      Quote: mvg
      Confused overhaul resource AL-21 in 400 hours ..
      1. mvg
        mvg 26 October 2015 16: 28 New
        +5
        MiG-27, radius, load, "devices". Initially cheaper. Therefore, the Indians, who were not very rich at that time, took it. And, frankly, I don’t remember that Mikoyan and Gurevich’s design bureaus were engaged in bombers or attack aircraft. The assault version of the 19th does not count.

        F-111 to this day, there are no equal, but he only served in the Australian Air Force .. Roads, little devil ..
        As for the strength ... Doubt that the 24-th glider will withstand the start from the catapult, and the 111-th was developed, initially, for aircraft carriers.

        Su-34, too, since the 3rd, it passed state tests .. The military did not want it. Pressed on top. I think not the last, in this, was the fact that avionics is new. Let's see how it will fly. So I understand that the "youngest" 24th is already over 22 years old. Therefore, a replacement must be urgently prepared, in the sense of producing not 5-7 cars a year. The front-line aviation fleet should be 200-250 flight-suitable machines.
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 26 October 2015 18: 43 New
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          Quote: mvg
          As for the strength ... Doubt that the 24-th glider will withstand the start from the catapult, and the 111-th was developed, initially, for aircraft carriers.

          F-111 after a collision with a bird


          1. TT62
            TT62 28 October 2015 08: 23 New
            0
            Nonsense, the paint peeling off.
        2. Bongo
          27 October 2015 00: 55 New
          +4
          Quote: mvg
          F-111 to this day, there are no equal, only he remained to serve only in the Australian Air Force ..

          Not anymore, the last ones were written off in the 2011 year (in the picture).
          Quote: mvg
          As for the strength ... Doubt that the 24-th glider will withstand the start from the catapult, and the 111-th was developed, initially, for aircraft carriers.

          Do not doubt, have you ever heard of cracks in the power structures of the Su-24? And on F-111 they were. Su-24 could even fly with missing hatches and serious damage. When it was created, a very large margin of safety was laid, it is not surprising that these machines fly for so long.
          Quote: mvg
          . Therefore, the replacement must be urgently prepared, in the sense that it is not possible to produce machines per 5-7 per year. The fleet of front-line aviation should be 200-250 aircraft suitable for flight.

          But with this I agree on 100% drinks
  11. Captain45
    Captain45 26 October 2015 17: 30 New
    -4
    Thank you for the article, it’s very informative (for a non-specialist) about the aircraft in the light of recent events. The only comment on this phrase is: "Having taken out, in general, the flag of the aviation regiment, which is useless in Russia", Author, since when did the banner of the piece become useless? fool You personally for this phrase "-", and the article "+".
    1. Bongo
      27 October 2015 00: 58 New
      +7
      Quote: Captain45
      Author, since when did the banner of the unit become useless? You personally for this phrase "-", and the article "+".

      Sorry stop And what good does Russia have for the BAP banner whose technology has remained in Ukraine? fool
  12. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 26 October 2015 18: 01 New
    +8
    A very professionally written article! Many thanks to the author!
  13. ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 26 October 2015 18: 04 New
    +9
    An excellent statue, I especially liked the photo of the cockpit, most authors give ten different pictures of the appearance from different angles and not a single photo of the cockpit.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 26 October 2015 19: 35 New
      0
      Google to the rescue. You are just too lazy to look.
  14. NIKNN
    NIKNN 26 October 2015 18: 59 New
    +7
    Thank you for the article, I look forward to continuing,

    Only
    For comparison F-111, which is considered an analogue of the Su-24, built in the United States half as much - 563 aircraft. The operation of the F-111 was completed in 1998.


    slightly different Su 24 analog F-111 since the first drying flight of 71, and the 111th with the 67th in service
  15. By001261
    By001261 26 October 2015 20: 35 New
    +6
    The article is a huge fat plus !!!
  16. bober1982
    bober1982 26 October 2015 20: 51 New
    0
    the planes left the 7th BAP (the 6th regiment never existed), the banner wasn’t taken out in a passenger car (this is not true), the flag was also transported by air, there were no 5 people of regimental rank in the group. The group was heterogeneous, not only high ranks, from senior lieutenants, captains, majors and to the colonel. After a year, the technical documentation for the aircraft was restored, and the machines were put into operation (67 BAP), under what Shatalov’s fence the aircraft did not rot. The passage about a useless banner is without comments. Conclusion article is illiterate.
    1. Bongo
      27 October 2015 01: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: bober1982
      the planes left the 7th BAP (the 6th regiment never existed), the banner was not taken out on a passenger car (this is not true), the banner was flown through the air

      When writing this publication, about this episode, I consulted with knowledgeable people who were aware of what was happening. If you have evidence (and not just your words) that what is stated in the article is "untrue," I will greatly appreciate this evidence.
      Quote: bober1982
      the group did not have 5 people of regimental rank. The group was heterogeneous, not only high ranks, from senior lieutenants, captains, majors to the colonel. After a year, the technical documentation for the aircraft was restored, and the machines were put into operation (67 BAP) , under what Shatalov’s fence the planes did not rot.

      Please bring the positions and pilots? And also copies of the forms?
      Quote: bober1982
      the arguments in the article about the use of Ukrainian Su-24 in the ATO zone are extremely illiterate. The level of the 7-Ukrainian brigade is extremely low, if not rude-moronic. Therefore, the machines were not used, or extremely unsuccessful. There were no golden rules, everything was much simpler.

      And in the publication what is actually spoken about? If the front-line bomber is lowered and exposed to anti-aircraft fire, is that not so?
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 27 October 2015 07: 37 New
        0
        about knowledgeable people: a huge number of pilots, navigators, engineers, technicians, mechanics passed through the Su-24. And they all know. Even the waitresses can tell you a lot of interesting things. The whole story from 7bap, presented by you, was taken by knowledgeable people from the Internet, with everyone inaccuracies and mistakes, which indicates the low level of those who advised you.
        The positions and ranks of pilots and navigators (and not pilots!) Should be named just as the author of the article. Although this is not a secret, everyone lives on.
        According to the forms in the article, you are quite naively surprised that the crews did not take them with them. But how do you even imagine what it is? If you continue in the same vein: the crews did not take food tickets with them in the food service, and did not write out in the combat department travel to Shatalovo.
        1. Bongo
          27 October 2015 07: 42 New
          +3
          Quote: bober1982
          The positions and ranks of pilots and navigators (and not pilots!) Just you should name, how to become an author

          Every time I am sincerely surprised when strangers try to prove to me that I owe them something ... stop
          Quote: bober1982
          which indicates the low level of those who advised you

          One of the consultants at the end of the publication is indicated before the sources, you can write to him, this is a rather well-known person, unlike you at VO, who has been serving on Su-24 for several decades.
  17. bober1982
    bober1982 26 October 2015 21: 03 New
    -2
    the arguments in the article about the use of Ukrainian Su-24 in the ATO zone are extremely illiterate. The level of the 7-Ukrainian brigade is extremely low, if not rude-moronic. Therefore, the machines were not used, or extremely unsuccessful. There were no golden rules, everything was much simpler.
  18. not main
    not main 26 October 2015 22: 21 New
    +7
    Thanks for the article! And in the 70s they said about the Su-24: "Pal Stepanych’s favorite plane! (Kutakhova)!"
  19. antiexpert
    antiexpert 26 October 2015 23: 46 New
    +7
    Tao and Su-24)))
    (photo copyright)))
  20. _dimasik_
    _dimasik_ 28 October 2015 17: 07 New
    +5
    Thanks to the author for the article. it was very interesting to read.
    And people like beaver really annoy. There is nothing to comment about, and he kind of knows everything and the author wrote nonsense. He is one smart and all fools. Specifically, he did not answer.
    I saved the article in bookmarks, went to read the second part.
  21. Gunther
    Gunther 28 October 2015 21: 43 New
    +3
    Good article, I look forward to continuing.
  22. iouris
    iouris 29 October 2015 18: 44 New
    +7
    It turns out that the officers who hijacked the Su-24 in the Russian Federation reduced the combat capabilities of the ukroluftwaffe and already for this they can consider themselves heroes of the Russian Federation and Donbass (and maybe Ukraine).
    As for the "complexity" of the Su-24, we must remember that the regiments switched to these aircraft from the Yak-28, Il-28, etc. Often retraining pilots, navigators and ITS was simply impossible. The plane required a different culture. If the Su-24 did not appear, then the operation in Syria was unlikely to be as effective as we are shown.
  23. bober1982
    bober1982 31 October 2015 14: 32 New
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    7th Bomber Aviation Regiment (Starokonstantinov): Il-28, Yak-28, Su-24, Su-24m, (24 Air Army (Vinnitsa), 32 division)
    "Old", "Skotinovskie" (lovingly), it was, it was and it passed ..... there remained the 7th Ukrainian brigade named after some sychkeres.
  24. autoflex
    autoflex 18 November 2015 13: 48 New
    +4
    Tell me please. But are Su-24 in the Guards at least in some form still flying? Re-equipment is certainly good, but not really the pilots on earth are all sitting?
    1. Bongo
      18 November 2015 13: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: autoflex
      Tell me please. But are Su-24 in the Guards at least in some form still flying? Re-equipment is certainly good, but not really the pilots on earth are all sitting?

      According to people whom I fully trust, several Su-24 remained there in flight condition. Now the 43 Sevastopol Red Banner Order of Kutuzov, a separate naval assault aviation regiment is re-equipped and retrained on the Su-30СМ. Apparently the name of the regiment will be changed to "mixed."
  25. autoflex
    autoflex 18 November 2015 14: 40 New
    +3
    Quote: Bongo
    Quote: autoflex
    Tell me please. But are Su-24 in the Guards at least in some form still flying? Re-equipment is certainly good, but not really the pilots on earth are all sitting?

    According to people whom I fully trust, several Su-24 remained there in flight condition. Now the 43 Sevastopol Red Banner Order of Kutuzov, a separate naval assault aviation regiment is re-equipped and retrained on the Su-30СМ. Apparently the name of the regiment will be changed to "mixed."

    Clear. Thank. But I didn’t quite understand that. The fact that in flight condition is understandable. But does anyone even fly at them? That is, at least some flights are carried out, or are they purely suitable for flights on the ground?
    1. Bongo
      18 November 2015 14: 43 New
      +4
      Quote: autoflex
      Clear. Thank. But I didn’t quite understand that. The fact that in flight condition is understandable. But does anyone even fly at them? That is, at least some flights are carried out, or are they purely suitable for flights on the ground?

      You are welcome. At the beginning of this year, they still flew, but now I will not say. request
  26. chetbor
    chetbor 22 November 2015 14: 36 New
    -4
    The number of errors just goes beyond understanding, it’s hard for me to understand the consultants, apparently they saw the plane from afar
    1. chetbor
      chetbor 22 November 2015 14: 49 New
      -3
      Someone's hand wavered ???
  27. chetbor
    chetbor 22 November 2015 14: 40 New
    -4
    Errors of the article. I flew on both types of Su-24: Su-24 and Su-24m, and on a variety of aircraft series, from old to new, which were the last to leave the NAPO plant.
    - Part of the Su-24 was equipped with curtains to protect the crew from being blinded by a flash of a nuclear explosion. ALL aircraft had the specified curtain
    - The most noticeable external difference from the Su-24 was the longer nose, which received a slight downward slope. The installation of a refueling system in the air significantly increased the combat radius of action. Another innovation was the PNS-24M Tiger sighting and navigation station, which includes the Orion-A search radar and the Relief radar, with the help of which flight is carried out at an extremely low altitude with an envelope around the terrain. The Su-24 aircraft became the first Soviet aircraft with a relief envelope mode, this is the MKV mode, which was preserved on the next modification of the Su-24m and there are no differences in this between the planes. Radar "Relief", correctly called RPS "Relief", is on both types of aircraft.
    - In 1979, these machines were armed with three bomber regiments deployed in the GDR. First, the regiments in Poland were re-equipped, and only then in the GSVG.
    - Even with a low-altitude flight profile, the Su-24, based in East Germany, could strike at targets in the UK, France, the Netherlands and Northern Italy. Well, it turns out if you fly only in one direction, and then catapult there ...
    - Pilots who previously piloted the Su-24, when switching to the Su-24M, noted a deterioration in handling on bends. Unfortunately - this is the personal opinion of the author, nothing like this is not described by the RLE to the pilot, in Practical Aerodynamics or in the Methodological Manual on the Pilot Technique ..
    - Due to the introduction of “aerodynamic knives”, the flight range has slightly decreased. The author came up with new terms for “aerodynamic knives”, which is known only to him. And the flight range fell due to an increase in the mass of an empty aircraft by almost 2 kg, which led to an increase in aerodynamic drag (drag coefficient - PLC increased from 000 to 120).
    - Su-24 bombers (without the letter "M") in the 80s were finalized with the aim of the possibility of using new X-58 anti-radar missiles, for which suspension was provided in the container of the Phantasmagoria target designation station. Author's gag ...
    - The laser-television station LTPS-24 "Kaira-24", thanks to a special prism made of ultra-pure glass, deflected the rays up to 160 degrees down and back, could "see" the signal of the laser target indicator reflected from the target, which hits the lens of the tracking camera in horizontal flight of a bomber when the target was behind him. This made it possible to use guided weapons even in a gentle climb. Prior to this, front-line aircraft could use weapons of destruction with a laser seeker only from a dive. LTPS-24 Kaira-24 has long been used in the specified version on the MiG-27K, in addition, the UR with LGSN was allowed to be used from horizontal flight even from low altitudes on MiG-27 and Su-17 aircraft of various modifications.
    - The reconnaissance version of the “twenty-four” is deprived of the ability to carry a bomb load. Pylons can be used for suspension of two suspended fuel tanks PTB-2000 or PTB-3000. We remember that the PTB-200 can only be suspended in the amount of ONLY one piece under the fuselage.
    - There is information about the conversion of a certain amount of Su-24 into aircraft Su-24T tankers (tanker). We quickly forget that they read it. Any Su-24m can be a tanker, hang up the UAZ, add the easily installed Sakhalin equipment to the cockpit, the PTB and the wu-ala tanker are ready for flights to deliver the Su-24m fuel. In the photo of the cabin it is visible.
    hi
    1. ancient
      ancient 24 November 2015 16: 09 New
      +6
      Quote: chetbor
      ALL aircraft had the specified curtain


      Not all, but only planes with 14 (!!!) series soldier

      Quote: chetbor
      The Su-24 aircraft became the first Soviet aircraft with a relief envelope mode, this is the MKV mode, which was preserved on the next modification of the Su-24m and there are no differences in this between the planes.


      The mode is not MKV, but MVK wink if "love to find fault with the" letters " wassat Well, the person wrote not the RPO, but the Relief radar ... in the end, it’s still a RADAR, but in addition to warning about a collision, it also functions as a range finder on the Su-24 wink

      Quote: chetbor
      First, the regiments in Poland were re-equipped, and only then in the GSVG.


      Oh well in FIG belay The very first regiments on the Su-24 were the regiments of the GSVG 218-bad (16th VA) (June 1979 - Templin) and then Yutsnbsrgs and Brand. wink but then already .. Poland

      Quote: chetbor
      Well, it turns out if you fly only in one direction, and then catapult there ...


      The tactical range with 4 five hundred and 650 km at an altitude of 200 meters is in the Federal Republic of Germany and the Netherlands, in the rest, of course with a variable profile, but .... they got it calmly wink
      1. ancient
        ancient 24 November 2015 16: 11 New
        +6
        Quote: ancient
        Author's gag ...


        I’ll continue .. and then there are too many of your “aplomb” .. therefore, the answers do not interfere wassat

        Quote: chetbor
        this is the personal opinion of the author, nothing like this is not described by the RLE to the pilot, in Practical Aerodynamics or in the Methodological Manual on the Pilot Technique ..


        As it is not said belay See Section LIMITATIONS ...- with which rolls you can perform turns without loss of stability wink

        Quote: chetbor
        which led to an increase in aerodynamic drag (drag indicator - PLC increased from 120 to 140).


        This is WHAT this sideways PLC increases due to the increase in mass of the aircraft belay

        Quote: chetbor
        Author's gag ...


        All T-6 vehicles alive after 84 were converted to X-58 and Fantosmogoria
        soldier

        Quote: chetbor
        It has long been used in the specified version on the MiG-27K,


        The author meant the aircraft equipped with "Background" and "Maple", "Rowan", "Winter", etc. wink

        About PTB -2000, everything is true ... one piece under the "belly".
        About tankers ... that's right wink just not so ... "quick" lol

        So in vain you are on the author ... "roll the barrel" lol