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Tricky comments. Anti-IGIL coalition: first went?

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No, well, it happens the same way ... Elections, re-election, democracy, neighborhood relations. The president is calling the most democratic power in the world, with congratulations to a colleague in Canada, and he like him, yes, thank you, very nice, and all that. And yes, Mr. Obama, we from Syria are ... dumping.




No, we both fought with IS, and we will fight. The war against international terrorism is sacred. And our role in this war will continue to be significant, and so on.

But our military people we are from Syria ... we withdraw. And all the bells and whistles that were brought, also pick up. Husseinich, you yourself, without offense, you understand, I promised the people before the elections. And since my party only entered the first term, then ... Well, everything is clear.

This is the turnaround made by the leader of the Canadian Liberal Party and the Acting Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

On the one hand, as if nothing terrible. Six CF-18A fighters, two CP-140 “Aurora” reconnaissance aircraft and one “Airbus” CC-150 “Polaris” tanker aircraft. Not God knows the set, right?

To "support the air mission" in the Middle East, 600 troops arrived. The Canadian contingent is stationed at an air base in Kuwait. In addition, there are still some 70 expert advisors from Canada in Iraq who advise Iraqi and Kurdish military leaders.

Considering that there is no one to exterminate anyone in Syria's sky (Russians don't count for obvious reasons), all the excavators in the desert are broken, in principle, the loss is small.

However, the precedent ... makes you wonder.

It is clear that Mr. Trudeau is on the termination of the participation of his guys in Syria and made a bet. And won. And it is clear that now he will have to withdraw the contingent. And, most interestingly, no one will feel bad about this. In Syria itself, the squad will not notice the loss of a fighter. And the return of nearly seven hundred Canadian soldiers back will definitely be noticed by the whole of Canada.

By the way, about the supply of "moderate", which are "free", NATO MANPADS. Probably, it makes no sense to explain that the east is a delicate matter. And those MANPADS that the coalitionists are going to hand over to their wards, so that they at least try to protect themselves from the punishment of heaven (we will be simpler, from the Russian videoconferencing systems), they will be able to be completely on the other side in a short time. And in the sight can be quite a not "drying", and even very "efki" or "mirages."

Say fiction? Come on ... The world knows more than a dozen examples where the modern (relatively) weapon delivered by one and used by others. But it is worth talking about this, for example, with representatives of Israel. Over the past three decades, a lot of things have come to them, and not everyone in the garage has been collected by a manicon.

But in general, the situation is funny. Mr. Trudeau decided that in Syria, Canadians have nothing to catch. Especially from the moment when you can really catch the Stinger. It's clear. But, since Trudeau’s party won such a convincing election victory, it means that Canadians think so too? Otherwise, they would definitely not vote.

And, no matter how unpleasant the States are, this moment, but, alas, they will have to accept the will of the Canadian people as it is. For democracy and all that. Against the elections you will not trample. Canada is not Russia or Belarus, there if elections, then on 100% are fair and transparent. Here it is.

However, all those interested vigilantly watched this. For the precedent was born. Whether he was born or not, time will tell. But what follows is what we will see. I bet that in some countries there will be those who want to play a political aria on the Syrian theme. Rolled in Canada - why not repeat in some other country, whose soldiers knead the Syrian sand.

Coalition - a difficult matter. And the East is a delicate matter. And usually where it is thin, there it is torn. The first of the coalition, as they say, went. Let's see how it ends. In any case, the Syrian show is not for a couple of months. And to wait for the final, will have to be patient. Let's see who has the most.
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  1. venaya
    venaya 22 October 2015 06: 44 New
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    Coalitions are complicated. And the East is a delicate matter. ... The first of the coalition, as they say, went

    The good news has already gone. Not everyone wants their ... desert adventure. Let's wait, someone else to join the Canadian initiative. And in general, what canadians do over a large puddle, they live well at home.
    1. i80186
      i80186 22 October 2015 06: 57 New
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      C'mon out of the coalition out. There is a complete divorce, a bedside table between the beds, Canadians will not buy F-35. laughing
      1. BilliBoms09
        BilliBoms09 22 October 2015 07: 11 New
        +8
        Guess who will receive the Nobel Peace Prize in 2016? wink If the US allows! what
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 22 October 2015 07: 29 New
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          Quote: BilliBoms09
          Guess who will receive the Nobel Peace Prize in 2016?

          Poroshenko, there are no other candidates.
          1. BilliBoms09
            BilliBoms09 22 October 2015 07: 34 New
            +5
            Poroshenko, there are no other candidates.
            Poroshenko is possible, but unlikely not Anglo-Saxon. But Mr. Trudeau is quite. Obama was given only for a promise, and Trudeau deduces. winked
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 22 October 2015 08: 57 New
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              Quote: BilliBoms09
              Poroshenko is possible, but unlikely not Anglo-Saxon.

              But the Jews.
              1. james
                james 23 October 2015 14: 16 New
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                Leave the Jews alone - they poured salt under your tail?
                And I want to remind you:
                Artist Levitan - praised the Russian nature in his paintings.
                Lavochkin - created the LA-5FN (one of the best World War II fighters), etc.
                Aircraft Designer Miles - Created MI-2,4,8, 24 (something that Russia is still proud of), etc.
                Aircraft designer Gurevich - one of those who created the first MIGI (MIG-1,3,9,15,19 and finally MIG-25) it.d)
                Yoffe — Academician, Russian and Soviet physicist, organizer of science, commonly referred to as the “father of Soviet physics”
                A whole galaxy of missile designers, nuclear physicists, aerospace specialists, writers, poets have done so much for the greatness of Russia, which is difficult to comprehend.
                And each of us has met wonderful doctors, teachers, just experts in any field
                And these were also Jews, so no black sheep should be hung on the whole people, any people have such sheep.
                1. pas682010
                  pas682010 24 October 2015 09: 27 New
                  +3
                  Strongly agree! People should not be judged by nationality, but by deeds and deeds.
                  1. Sbpereiro
                    Sbpereiro 24 October 2015 13: 18 New
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                    In-in! That still a Jew!
                2. Fat
                  Fat 24 October 2015 15: 43 New
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                  so many Jews. and those that are now spinning here with us. these are Jews
            2. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 22 October 2015 11: 25 New
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              Quote: BilliBoms09
              but unlikely not Anglo-Saxon

              Gorby also seems to be not ...
              1. cap54
                cap54 23 October 2015 11: 45 New
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                Gorby also seems to be not ...
                Историческая справка: Горбачев Михаил Сергеевич (Гайдер) (02.03.1931). Горбачев лауреат: премии Царя Давида (США, 1997), премии Международной женской сионистской организации (Майами, США, 1998). Кавалер «Звезды Героя» Университета Бен-Гурион (Израиль, 1992), памятной награды «Врата Свободы» в честь 10-летия со времени предоставления евреям бывшего СССР возможности свободно эмигрировать (компания «Израиль бондс», Нью-Йорк, 1998). Имеет почетную ученую степень Университета Бар-Илан (Израиль, 1992), Университета Бен-Гурион (Израиль, 1992). Горбачев - знаковая фигура в иудейском мире, посвящен в рыцари масонского Мальтийского ордена. Горбачеву обещали должность генерального секретаря всех раввинов. Он награжден двумя премиями Царя Давида, что редкость даже для высокопоставленных иудеев. Как сказано, "за заслуги перед еврейским народом".

                А в остальном он конечно же "не еврей"!!!
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 23 October 2015 14: 07 New
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                  Quote: cap54
                  А в остальном он конечно же "не еврей"!!!

                  Судя по всему, определять национальность по матери всё больше и больше у "богоизбранных" становится анахронизмом. Главное - поступки. Горбачёва, похоже, признали.

                  Concerning. America once boasted that 5 of lard of its money spent on the freedom of Ukraine

                  Netanyahu phoned GDP:
                  - Vladimir Vladimirovich, and you, by chance, not a Jew?
                  - By chance not !!!!!! And why suddenly .....
                  - Yes, to dodge so that America paid five lard to Ukraine for your Crimea - we thought that only ours can ...
                  1. cap54
                    cap54 25 October 2015 16: 25 New
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                    Netanyahu phoned GDP:
                    - Vladimir Vladimirovich, and you, by chance, not a Jew?
                    - By chance not !!!!!! And why suddenly .....

                    Wolf (Vladimir) Putman is the secret leader of the St. Petersburg Bnay Brit community. Putman on the instructions of Bnai Brit entered the KGB and changed his name to Putin. He acts on the orders of the chief rabbis of Russia Adolf Shaevich and Berl Laser ...
                    I don’t know ... what to believe? .. The whole world is upside down !!!
                    1. james
                      james 25 October 2015 18: 49 New
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                      Do you believe in what you write? Or do you work out money?
                2. pas682010
                  pas682010 24 October 2015 09: 33 New
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                  It is a pity that nobody from Russia awarded him a bullet in the head.
            3. kotvov
              kotvov 22 October 2015 12: 11 New
              +4
              Poroshenko is possible, but unlikely not Anglo-Saxon. ,,
              Do not forget about his nationality. Do not be lazy to google how many representatives of the God-chosen in the lists of Nobel Prizes.
          2. Penetrator
            Penetrator 22 October 2015 08: 13 New
            +9
            And I think Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is a caliph of the Islamic state. In this twisted world everything is possible.
            1. Varyag_1973
              Varyag_1973 22 October 2015 08: 58 New
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              "А я думаю, Абу Бакр аль-Багдади - халиф Исламского государства. В этом вывернутом мире всё возможно."

              Yeah, if he survives! Or rather, if his American owners allow him to stay alive! They do not like extra witnesses, and this one can tell a lot of things if the Syrians take him alive!
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 23 October 2015 14: 32 New
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                Quote: Varyag_1973
                Yeah, if he survives! Or rather, if his American owners let him stay alive! They do not like extra witnesses

                Let me guess - suicide with three shots in the heart?

                The example of Ahmad Shah Masoud is very revealing in this regard.
                Since 1999, he has worked closely with the CIA.

                On 9 of September 2001 of the year, an assassination attempt was committed during an interview - suicide bombers pretended to be journalists, hiding the explosives in a video camera. Ahmad Shah Masoud died of his wounds the next morning, 10 of September. According to some allegations, Ahmad Shah Masood was eliminated by bin Laden, due to the recruitment by US intelligence agencies of the perpetrators of an attempt to eliminate bin Laden.
                Это из Википедии. И поскольку пишет там кто попало, не всё так просто, как там написано. Бен Ладен, будь он неладен, тут ни при чём. Масуд прекрасно кормился на американские деньги задолго до 1999-го года. А, будучи очень влиятельным дядькой, и знал немало. А больше всего смешит американская версия о причинах его убийства - достаточно вспомнить, что покушались на него за 2 дня до башен-близнецов и за 3 дня до того, как виноватым в терактах объявили бен Ладена и за почти 10 лет до смешной операции "по ликвидации" бен Ладена. И Масуда грохнули, и башни взорвали одни и те же люди и сидят они не в Афганистане, а в ЦРУ. И если бы Буш-старший числился советником в семейном бизнесе Масудов, также, как в семейном бизнесе бен Ладенов, то и Масуд был бы жив до сих пор.

                And this is just one example of friendship with America in general and with the CIA in particular. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi would be well aware of this. И готовиться к расплате за "дружбу".
            2. ydjin
              ydjin 22 October 2015 17: 19 New
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              Quote: Penetrator
              And I think Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is a caliph of the Islamic state. In this twisted world everything is possible.

              Well, Nobels are not the lambs of God, they invented explosives that sent many millions of lives to the world, having had a good gesheft, and bazaar for peace with this money? Trying to buy indulgence!
          3. Panikovsky
            Panikovsky 22 October 2015 10: 40 New
            +6
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Poroshenko, there are no other candidates.

            Well, why, in the 2016 election in the United States, that’s a match for the newfound freak.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 24 October 2015 02: 16 New
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              Quote: Panikovsky
              Well, why, in the 2016 elections in the USA, here they’ll steal a newfound freak

              Rather, a freak. According to the traditions of American tolerance, the next president of America (after the Negro, in order to deepen tolerance) should be an elderly lesbian in a wheelchair of Mexican descent. Well, to respect everyone. She will receive a prize even before the end of the election.
          4. Turkir
            Turkir 22 October 2015 11: 57 New
            +3
            Rather, the prize will receive Erdogan.
            In order not to flirt with Moscow and this did not get on Washington’s nerves.
          5. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 23 October 2015 13: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Poroshenko, there are no other candidates.

            What about Saakashvili? With such hatred of Russia - yes the best candidate! Say, the scale is not the same? Nothing, and smaller received. The main thing is that he did nothing for the world and managed to fight with Russia. This is defining. Look, Obama knows ...
        2. skrabplus.ru
          skrabplus.ru 23 October 2015 11: 29 New
          0
          Usama bin Muhammad bin Awad bin Laden
          1. NordUral
            NordUral 23 October 2015 14: 34 New
            0
            You mixed up with Bush.
          2. Fight cat
            Fight cat 23 October 2015 21: 04 New
            +1
            Well, this is generally the first conspiracy theories even though one Partagenigenoss said; the more monstrous a lie, the more likely it is to be believed! hi
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 24 October 2015 02: 20 New
              +1
              Quote: Fighting Cat
              Well, this is generally the first conspiracy theories even though one Partagenigenoss said; the more monstrous a lie, the more likely it is to be believed!

              And Lenin is a mushroom. Did you not know? laughing laughing There is conspirology - and there’s no getting away from this fact, but to invent such a thing is that the people clearly have seen enough of Prokopenko at night ...
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 22 October 2015 08: 12 New
        +8
        Quote: i80186
        C'mon out of the coalition out. There is a complete divorce, a bedside table between the beds, Canadians will not buy F-35. laughing

        Это вообще атас,теперь "золотой" ф-35 станет ещё дороже. yes

        A possible refusal by Canada to purchase American F-35 aircraft will increase the cost of this equipment for customers from other countries by about one million dollars for a combat vehicle, said F-35 program director Lieutenant-General United States Air Force Chris Bogdan.

        Lockheed Martin’s fifth-generation F-35 fifth generation fighter-bomber program is co-financed, and Canada planned to cover about 2% of costs, Reuters reports.

        Speaking on Wednesday at the congress, Bogdan noted that for the time being these cost estimates were preliminary, since Canada had not officially announced that she had refused to buy 65 F-35, which she planned to buy to replace CF-18 aircraft.

        Earlier, the possibility of abandoning the program was announced by the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada, Justin Trudeau, who, after winning the elections on Monday, intends to take the post of prime minister of the country.
        http://ria.ru/world/20151022/1306046992.html
      3. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 23 October 2015 13: 56 New
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        Quote: i80186
        C'mon out of the coalition out. There is a complete divorce, a bedside table between the beds, Canadians will not buy F-35.

        I had previously suspected that the United States was friends more, and not for some merit and valor, Canada was dragged everywhere for itself - to fight, in the G8, which became the Seven ... А теперь либо лесорубов одёрнут так, что мало не покажется, либо из Семёрки "самых-самых наивеличайших" выгонят. Скажут, что только сейчас увидели, что ничего великого в той Канаде нет и at the same table with the USA, Great Britain and Germany, she is not sitting according to her status ...

        Although, most likely, they will make some proposal that cannot be refused. America is no stranger ...
      4. Cherdak
        Cherdak 23 October 2015 19: 08 New
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        Quote: i80186
        Canadians F-35 will not buy


        Did they remember the old story?
    2. Shiva83483
      Shiva83483 22 October 2015 06: 59 New
      +8
      Как по мне, все описано фразой Попандопало из к-ф "Свадьба в Малиновке"...да-да, о кануне грандиозного шухера, хотя...что-то там и про золотой запасец как бы было? wassat
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 22 October 2015 07: 16 New
        +8
        In Canada, the conservatives lost the election. Here and the Air Force withdrew from Syria. The population of Canada realized that a confrontation with the Russian Federation for the sake of Hohlokanadans is fraught.
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 22 October 2015 07: 40 New
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      Quote: venaya
      Coalitions are complicated. And the East is a delicate matter. ... The first of the coalition, as they say, went

      The good news has already gone. Not everyone wants their ... desert adventure. Let's wait, someone else to join the Canadian initiative. And in general, what canadians do over a large puddle, they live well at home.

      у меня,у старого,"чуйка" такая: так сказать "западная коалиция",пришла к подковёрному согласию,поставить ПЗРК,"умеренной оппозиции", а так ка они практически не управляемы,и им пофигу кто летит по воздуху-нужно вовремя от туда смыться,дабы не попасть под "friendly fire"... как то так.
      1. corporal
        corporal 22 October 2015 07: 58 New
        +6
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        ПЗРК,"умеренной оппозиции", а так ка они практически не управляемы,и им пофигу кто летит по воздуху-нужно вовремя от туда смыться,дабы не попасть под "friendly fire"... как то так.

        Профессор, помниться, объяснял, что на этих самых "Стингерах" стоит система "свой-чужой", и она никак не даст пальнуть по ЛА стран НАТО и иже с ними. И отключить её,не выведя из строя ракету-никак невозможно.
        Таким образом, эти "Стингеры" целиком и полностью предназначены против нас и тех,кто с нами.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 22 October 2015 08: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: Corporal
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          ПЗРК,"умеренной оппозиции", а так ка они практически не управляемы,и им пофигу кто летит по воздуху-нужно вовремя от туда смыться,дабы не попасть под "friendly fire"... как то так.

          Профессор, помниться, объяснял, что на этих самых "Стингерах" стоит система "свой-чужой", и она никак не даст пальнуть по ЛА стран НАТО и иже с ними. И отключить её,не выведя из строя ракету-никак невозможно.
          Таким образом, эти "Стингеры" целиком и полностью предназначены против нас и тех,кто с нами.

          по "стингерам" вопросов нет,Профессор прав,английский комплекс «Блоупайп»тоже читает "своих-чужих",а по другому железу, «Ред Ай» например:которому всё равно кого валить ? или только дорогие "стингеры" подкинут,в целях собственной безопасности?what
          1. Unclean
            Unclean 22 October 2015 12: 25 New
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            And if the Ukrainians hoisted their MANPADS there, that is, Soviet-made, then. Although this is unlikely, but what the hell is not joking, this would only harm Russia, but at the same time cut the dough. It is surprising that padloshenko still did not offer air defense protection to Ishilov’s men. And the egg keeps silent on this topic, it is strange that they did not cut this chip. It’s not in theirs, the omission of such a topic to annoy Moscow, not in the Great Ukropsk it.
            1. Unclean
              Unclean 22 October 2015 16: 03 New
              +2
              Well, finally I found on the tape ru, hohlopropoganda in its place (at the bucket or parashenko) and in its repertoire, here is an excerpt from the article:
              ... Kiev authorities are not the first time to announce the participation of Russians and Moscow supporters in the armed conflict in the Middle East. On September 11, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko announced the landing in Syria of hundreds of “green men” from Russia, who, he said, provoke a further increase in violence in the Middle East. However, the leader did not give concrete evidence of his words to the Ukrainian.
              Attention, Khokhloprident is not asleep and everything is buzzing.
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 22 October 2015 09: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: Corporal
          Таким образом, эти "Стингеры" целиком и полностью предназначены против нас и тех,кто с нами.

          what интересно, а ежели каким-нибудь трофейным Стингером шмальнуть в еуропский самолет (трофейный или там с "повстанцами" какими перетереть на предмет провокации) и перехватить запрос и ответный сигнал - можно ли его сымитировать на наших самолетах потом? Вот эта идея мне уже пару дней покоя не дает.
          If there is an encrypted signal and all the time is different, is it possible to repeat the nth number of times in order to then decrypt and understand the logic ...
          1. dauria
            dauria 22 October 2015 10: 14 New
            +5
            If there is an encrypted signal and all the time is different, is it possible to repeat the nth number of times in order to then decrypt and understand the logic ...


            Having the entire fleet of computers in the world, it is impossible to decrypt the algorithm for the time (usually a day) while it is in operation. This ancient requirement for developers is almost 40 years old. To maintain such a system on MANPADS is unthinkable in principle. The system of centralized distribution and key entry is too complicated. (And she is not technical)
            1. Corsair
              Corsair 22 October 2015 14: 15 New
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              Quote: dauria
              The system of centralized distribution and key entry is too complicated.

              belay Want to say that each rocket is sent codes before launch? Or each plane before departure?
              1. Does your alien system work in which algorithm?
              2. Does the plane give the rocket some kind of information that processes it and decides not to attack? or vice versa?
              3. Does this mean that the rocket and the plane generate signals in accordance with the specified algorithm, or are all the codes long ago encoded in chips and stupidly matched in the matrix in accordance with the request?
              In short, there are a lot of questions ... If at the time of a missile’s flight it is stunned, stupidly with electronic warfare systems (remotely or an external device such as a parasitic device with a jammer) - it will extinguish its plane or go into milk?
              1. dauria
                dauria 22 October 2015 16: 53 New
                +4
                belay Want to say that each rocket is sent codes before launch? Or each plane before departure?


                1. there are no systems on missiles
                2. There is a defendant on the plane, but not necessarily an interrogator. And this does not prevent him from attacking targets, both air and ground.
                3 yes, it was introduced to every aircraft prepared for departure

                4 алгоритм на иностранные системы прост. Запрос-случайное число. Ответ -это принятое число обрабатывается по формуле и отправляется обратно спрашивавшему. Естественно , формула есть у обоих участников "диалога". Она меняется раз в сутки,( обычно). Не передаётся в эфир - сторонний наблюдатель "слышит" только пары случайных чисел запрос-ответ. Вычислить формулу по этим данным можно, но заведомо очень долго ( больше суток) Противник просто не наберёт необходимого "материала". Наличие у противника исправной ( но без формулы) аппаратуры ничего не даёт.
                1. Corsair
                  Corsair 23 October 2015 14: 48 New
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                  Quote: dauria
                  4 алгоритм на иностранные системы прост. Запрос-случайное число. Ответ -это принятое число обрабатывается по формуле и отправляется обратно спрашивавшему. Естественно , формула есть у обоих участников "диалога". Она меняется раз в сутки,( обычно).


                  1. Тогда закономерный вопрос - Как этим "тварищам" раз в сутки отправляют сигнал в горах, ущельях и т.д. где связь не ловит GSM? В каждой ПЗРК есть спутниковый приемник?
                  2. The meaning of changing formulas every day, and synchronously, as far as I understand, should this be done?
        3. Simple
          Simple 22 October 2015 10: 34 New
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          Quote: Corporal
          And disabling it without disabling the rocket is impossible.



          Well this is a moot point.
        4. Unclean
          Unclean 22 October 2015 16: 13 New
          +1
          I doubt that missiles of this class have a similar system. Not the same size as this racket. She is guided by the thermal trail and therefore she does not care on which side he has a tube. Let the professor do not throw fluff on the stingers, they stupidly put a rod to the heat and do not have any receiving radars other than the GTSN.
    4. rpek32
      rpek32 22 October 2015 09: 28 New
      0
      And tell us what kind of story with excavators, please
      1. i80186
        i80186 22 October 2015 09: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: rpek32
        And tell us what kind of story with excavators, please

        http://ria.ru/arab_sy/20151001/1294649378.html laughing
        1. Simple
          Simple 22 October 2015 10: 50 New
          +1
          Где то читал рассказ одного военнослужащего о использовании "Апачей" в Авганистане.

          Так вот при возвращении "Апача" с задания с неиспользованой AGM-114 «Хеллфаер», последнюю надо было отправлять на юстировку в США, что довольно накладно.
    5. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 22 October 2015 11: 53 New
      +4
      This question, about Canada’s withdrawal from Syria, was decided in London, for Canada is dominion. And if he decided in London, then Washington is in the know about all the events. In general Canada, they gave the green light, after all, the Anglo-Saxons, native blood. Other members of the coalition do not shine.
    6. 73bor
      73bor 23 October 2015 22: 31 New
      0
      They say when the first immigrants met the Indians they asked-what is this area called? the Indians said Canada-what did it mean- VILLAGE!
  2. yegor_k
    yegor_k 22 October 2015 06: 51 New
    +7
    Not democratic, it is necessary to stir up amers in Canada with amers ...
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 22 October 2015 06: 54 New
    10
    Это только Канада собирается(!) вывести войска. Все остальные только увеличивают свое присутствие. И в Афгане немцы расширяют свой контингент. Пока Черный властелин велит, вся шайка будет плясать под его дудку. Для изменения концепции необходима победа на выборах во Франции и Германии совсем других сил, причем с таким счетом, чтобы можно было формировать правительства без оглядки на конкурентов. А к этому большинство жителей этих стран пока не готово. Надо годика два-три подождать, пока "понаехавшие" их раком не поставят, да и то не факт.
    1. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 22 October 2015 08: 50 New
      +9
      Надо годика два-три подождать, пока "понаехавшие" их раком не поставят, да и то не факт.[
      - Учитывая современные европейские тенденции в области гендерных взаимоотношений (толерантность, ЛГБТ, Кончита которая Вурст, тьфу!) господам гейропейцам такая трактовка взаимоотношений (если в буквальном смысле)с "понаехавшими" скорее даже понравится. А если рассматривать в фигуральном смысле, то всевозможные турки, арабы, индусы и т.д. и т.п. уже минимум 60 лет ставят Францию, Германию, Британию в позу пьющего оленя. И ... ровным счетом ничего! По крайней мере пока. Хотя вполне возможно, что приехавшие в последнее время в Европу "беженцы" из Африки и Ближнего Востока окажутся той последней соломинкой, сломавшей спину верблюду. И европейцы, осознав наконец, что их скоро тупо лишат не только денег, которые идут на пособия, но и т.н. достижений европейской цивилизации и даже родины, могут припомнить о своих корнях(хотя бы из чувства самосохранения) и в них проснутся инстинкты варваров , в свое время разрушивших Рим. Поживем - увидим.
      I have the honor.
      1. 341712
        341712 22 October 2015 13: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: Aleksandr72
        Alexander72 (1) Today, 08: 50 ↑ New
        Надо годика два-три подождать, пока "понаехавшие" их раком не поставят, да и то не факт.[ - Учитывая современные европейские тенденции в области гендерных взаимоотношений (толерантность, ЛГБТ, Кончита которая Вурст, тьфу!) господам гейропейцам такая трактовка взаимоотношений (если в буквальном смысле)с "понаехавшими" скорее даже понравится. А если рассматривать в фигуральном смысле, то всевозможные турки, арабы, индусы и т.д. и т.п. уже минимум 60 лет ставят Францию, Германию, Британию в позу пьющего оленя. И ... ровным счетом ничего! По крайней мере пока. Хотя вполне возможно, что приехавшие в последнее время в Европу "беженцы" из Африки и Ближнего Востока окажутся той последней соломинкой, сломавшей спину верблюду. И европейцы, осознав наконец, что их скоро тупо лишат не только денег, которые идут на пособия, но и т.н. достижений европейской цивилизации и даже родины, могут припомнить о своих корнях(хотя бы из чувства самосохранения) и в них проснутся инстинкты варваров , в свое время разрушивших Рим. Поживем - увидим.
        I have the honor.


        The locals will not be able to do anything with the crowds, because atrophied in all respects ... The maximum that can happen is that we will get refugees from Europe when they start letting them into their belts .... The charge is already laid ... the only question is who and when will blow the fuse ....
  4. CAPILATUS
    CAPILATUS 22 October 2015 06: 55 New
    12
    no hatred moods, it was part of the election program. And since the conservatives in the person of Harper were fed up with everything, they chose another. If he had left the contingent in the program - they would have chosen anyway. This is not interesting. Interestingly, in his campaign promise, the new prime minister promised to abandon the purchase of the F-35 and hold an open tender for the cheaper aircraft. Theoretically, even Su or Mig can get there. Then it will be really fun!
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 22 October 2015 07: 18 New
      +8
      Да ну?отказ от Ф35? ну не будет этого.это и есть предвыборный пиар-что откажуться от закупки дорогих самолетов,а на деле именно по указу черного властелина и купят,ибо нужно поддержать "братского" производителя.
    2. vadson
      vadson 22 October 2015 09: 40 New
      +3
      they won’t take a hundred pounds because it’s not for Feng Shui, but the whales will be able to use the same dryers, but the view from the side will get into the tender but not win
  5. SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 22 October 2015 07: 08 New
    +2
    Fair elections? 100%? I do not believe! But what about the long and hairy arm of the Kremlin?
  6. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 22 October 2015 07: 16 New
    +4
    " ... И чтобы дождаться финала, надо набраться терпения."

    " Как бы сейчас не было тяжело, однажды.... всё будет хорошо! Бог любит терпеливых."
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 October 2015 07: 24 New
    +6
    For Russia, it is neither cold nor hot. The Americans will get crooked, but they can bear it; indeed, the loss is not big, but a blow to the image. But the new Canadian prime minister will benefit from all this. Perhaps in the first stage. And of course it’s too early to talk about the possible collapse of the Western coalition.
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 22 October 2015 07: 29 New
    +4
    ... Barack Obama, congratulated D. Trudeau on the victory .. and asked to put a song for him: You, you threw, you .. you, you ...
  9. Sibiryak13
    Sibiryak13 22 October 2015 07: 39 New
    +4
    It's cool when they write Obama, Obama this. You might think the monkey decides something.
  10. Socialism 2.0
    Socialism 2.0 22 October 2015 07: 39 New
    -6
    Article - semolina smeared on a plate. About nothing.
  11. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 22 October 2015 07: 41 New
    +7
    Promise and do are two different things. The head of that country south of Canada promised so much before the election that he snatched up the prize in advance. Of course, after receiving the prize, I did not scratch anything (and why - after all, there is already a bonus).
    Maybe the new Canadian prime minister will succeed, although they are too dependent on their neighbor. And from overseas they can remind you that this is not a country at all, but a province under the control of the Governor General on behalf of the Queen.
  12. cniza
    cniza 22 October 2015 08: 32 New
    +7
    Quote: Sergey-8848
    Promise and do are two different things.



    Politics is a dirty occupation, and Western politicians are those who create this dirt.
  13. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 22 October 2015 08: 34 New
    +3
    And after all, the new Canadian leader was not shy! Refused, didn’t it? Will there be something further?
  14. kenig1
    kenig1 22 October 2015 08: 47 New
    23
    Syrian Mig-21
    1. Batia
      Batia 22 October 2015 09: 26 New
      +2
      oh have fun! Thank. A pleasant charge of positive emotions.
    2. ermak.sidorov
      ermak.sidorov 22 October 2015 10: 03 New
      +2
      Жалко целую бомбу на тачанку, да и бабаи вроде как все успели разбежаться...не проще было всю эту компанию из пушки "покрошить"?
  15. Manul
    Manul 22 October 2015 08: 56 New
    +6
    Oh, it’s not in vain that so many Ukrainians have taken root in Canada. Canadians Mentality Acquired Definitely Practical Features lol .
    1. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 22 October 2015 09: 58 New
      +2
      The bulk of future dill emigrated mainly to Canada in three waves the year before and last century - during the Austro-Hungarian and Polish occupations, and fascist henchmen also fled! All this audience is represented by residents of the western regions. Therefore, support for this scum and their offspring of maydanut dill is not surprising!
  16. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 22 October 2015 10: 06 New
    +1
    "Особенно с того момента, когда реально можно будет поймать "Стингер""///

    They do not fly so low. They bomb without any risk from a great height.
    1. Manul
      Manul 22 October 2015 11: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      "Особенно с того момента, когда реально можно будет поймать "Стингер""///

      They do not fly so low. They bomb without any risk from a great height.

      What about the Su-25 and Mi-24?
  17. Vega
    Vega 22 October 2015 10: 22 New
    +1
    Западная коалиция по сути развалилась когда первые толпы беженцев устремились в Европу. А тугриков и на беженцев, и на войну одновременно не хватает. Начало положено было с началом отвода войск с востока, а продолжилось поисками "новых партнеров", задача провальная.
  18. rus-5819
    rus-5819 22 October 2015 10: 27 New
    +2
    Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
    The bulk of future dill emigrated mainly to Canada in three waves the year before and last century - during the Austro-Hungarian and Polish occupations, and fascist henchmen also fled! All this audience is represented by residents of the western regions. Therefore, support for this scum and their offspring of maydanut dill is not surprising!


    Yeah! You can’t argue against genetics, science, you know!
  19. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 22 October 2015 11: 44 New
    +2
    Quote: Sid.74
    F-35 Program Manager, US Air Force Lieutenant General Chris Bogdan

    What a remarkable little name, not from the Ukrainian refugees for an hour wassat ?Ежели так,то понятно отчего самолетик такой "бесценный"!
  20. slizhov
    slizhov 22 October 2015 11: 54 New
    +1
    Canada was the first tired of this corps de ballet on ice ...
    Why continue to jump upwards, if up to a banana, from the highest point reached, even more than three meters ???
  21. Lookark
    Lookark 22 October 2015 12: 05 New
    +1
    For politicians, word and deed rarely go in the same direction. Given Canada’s dependence on the United States, I think it will be like with Tsipras in Greece.
  22. alovrov
    alovrov 22 October 2015 12: 57 New
    +1
    These are all verbal exercises - no more. There was recently a talker named Tsipras. Notably, I remember, they bent it. Canadian Tsipras shines the same.
  23. Belousov
    Belousov 22 October 2015 13: 40 New
    0
    Something in Canada sharply formed a lack of democracy, do not you?
    As for the statements, it most likely has not yet departed from the election rhetoric. Tsipras also screamed a lot, and even met with Putin. And where is he now? And what is he saying now? So from Canadians it is all the more not worth waiting for such sharp steps.
  24. Balagan
    Balagan 22 October 2015 14: 04 New
    +1
    Yes, are there really any advantages in democracy ... We will see how the Chief Democrat will react to this.
    1. By001261
      By001261 22 October 2015 14: 16 New
      +1
      Well, how to express concern wink
  25. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 22 October 2015 15: 47 New
    +1
    Кстати, о поставках "умеренным", которые "свободные", натовских ПЗРК. Наверное, нет смысла объяснять, что восток — дело тонкое. И те ПЗРК, которые коалиционщики собираются передать своим подопечным, чтобы те хотя бы попытались защитить себя от кары небесной (будем проще, от российских ВКС), вполне себе через небольшое время смогут оказаться совсем в другой стороне. И в прицеле могут оказаться вполне себе не "сушки", а очень даже "эфки" или "миражи"
    and what prevents us from starting to shoot down striped? after all, you can blame on igil shmigil.
  26. Starshina wmf
    Starshina wmf 22 October 2015 18: 26 New
    +1
    In the area of ​​the settlements of Rakka, Vashiya and Mara, two tactical militant units, a heavy machine gun, a building and an excavator were destroyed by air strikes. American aviation.

    read in AIF. how many excavators in igil?
  27. Russia
    Russia 22 October 2015 19: 30 New
    +1
    Anti-ISIS coalition: the first to go?

    Fall. Fall foliage however! Maple leaf fell off!
  28. Filxnumx
    Filxnumx 22 October 2015 19: 35 New
    +1
    Quote: UNCLE
    I doubt that missiles of this class have a similar system. Not the same size as this racket. She is guided by the thermal trail and therefore she does not care on which side he has a tube. Let the professor do not throw fluff on the stingers, they stupidly put a rod to the heat and do not have any receiving radars other than the GTSN.

    On modified stingers, a two-channel target location system: GOS is induced by radiation not only in the infrared part of the spectrum, but also in the far, as far as I remember (correct if not so) ultraviolet. But for every tricky bolt there is a lock nut. At VO it seems such a topic has already been discussed.
  29. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 22 October 2015 21: 16 New
    +1
    It’s like Canada right there helped so much before. Have they bombed at least once?
    1. Wingpilot
      Wingpilot 24 October 2015 00: 57 New
      0
      Bombed. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canadian-jets-drop-first-bombs-in-s
      yria / article23850987 /
  30. Aleksiy
    Aleksiy 23 October 2015 05: 18 New
    +1
    Syria is the twentieth business for Canadians, and therefore no one is worried about that, BUT, the withdrawal of a maple leaf soldier from Syria is the simplest of Trudeau's promises, and nothing more. That's when the liberals will take to reduce social programs, it will really be a topic for discussion and unrest, as well. They sent the soldiers, they returned the soldiers - it concerns ME - no, well then let them.
  31. Silman1985
    Silman1985 23 October 2015 07: 30 New
    +1
    One thing I can say for sure, the world community is changing course, and this course is contrary to US policy, they are starting to turn away from them. Pretty nice fact)
  32. win
    win 23 October 2015 08: 53 New
    +3
    excavators in the desert are all broken

    Surely there are still hospitals ...
  33. kirpich
    kirpich 23 October 2015 14: 28 New
    0
    But our military people we are from Syria ... we withdraw. And all the bells and whistles that were brought, also pick up. Husseinich, you yourself, without offense, you understand, I promised the people before the elections. And since my party only entered the first term, then ... Well, everything is clear.


    That's all ... after this phrase I crawled under the table ... laughing
  34. acetophenon
    acetophenon 24 October 2015 19: 00 New
    0
    As the Chinese emperor said to one of his concubines, looking after the empress quarreling with him:
    - These people are gone, and - well done!