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Former US President Jimmy Carter: "I handed over to Vladimir Putin maps with the militant positions in Syria"

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39 US President Jimmy Carter (presidency: 1977-1981) shared a sensation with the media. According to him, he personally asked the Russian president what information regarding the fight against international terrorism is important for Moscow today. According to Carter, in the Kremlin he was told that they would not have refused to receive information about the targets - the locations of the militants of the so-called "Islamic State" in Syria. And, if you believe the former owner of the White House, such data in the form of maps with special notes for Moscow were provided. This is reported by the American newspaper. The Washington Free Beacon.


Former US President Jimmy Carter: "I handed over to Vladimir Putin maps with the militant positions in Syria"


Last weekend, Jimmy Carter was on a visit to Georgia, where he said that he was “quite well acquainted” with Vladimir Putin, Putin “treats (to Carter) well.”

Carter:
I sent (to the Kremlin) a message on Thursday and asked him (Putin) if he would like to receive a copy of our map so that he could bomb the position of terrorists in Syria. Then, through the Russian Embassy, ​​they told me that they were interested in receiving such a card.


Further, Carter stated, not without irony:
Thus, in the future, if Russia suddenly bombed the wrong places, you will know that this is not Putin’s fault, but my fault.


With this, Carter is on the air NBC News He added that he has enough military sources who know a lot about the positions of the militants in Syria.

At the Pentagon, the transfer of secret maps to Moscow by former President Carter did not comment, saying that journalists should contact the Carter Center to answer this question, the head of which is the former US president.

Recall that Jimmy Carter expressed support for the decision of Russia to help the Syrian army by striking militants from the air. In addition, the former US president said earlier that he understood Russia's concern about the coup d'état in Kiev, after which NATO may well move on to Russia's borders. Carter noted that in those conditions that developed in Ukraine, the exit of the Crimea from its composition was inevitable.
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  1. A-Sim
    A-Sim 21 October 2015 14: 45 New
    25
    Какая неприкрытая дэза ("газетная утка"). Как же бомбили до четверга???? Наверное "по глобусу".
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 21 October 2015 14: 48 New
      86
      Yes, the devil knows them, when they become former, they somehow suddenly see clearly.
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 21 October 2015 14: 49 New
        +8
        Smeared up!

        In the decrepit years of fame, they are looking for, to cut the dough for the granddaughter for sensational intervals!

        And so - where did he (Jimmy Carter (presidency: 1977-1981) get maps of the position of the militants in Syria today and how did he convey to Putin that, in theory, is secret in the US?
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 21 October 2015 14: 57 New
          -23
          Quote: Baikonur
          In the decrepit years of fame seek, cut the dough!

          What Ishak sweaty old can offer acre:
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 21 October 2015 15: 12 New
            +4
            Quote: Papakiko
            What Ishak sweaty old can offer acre:
            1. mitrich
              mitrich 21 October 2015 16: 18 New
              15
              А кто мне подскажет, почему всегда, первые в комментах, как правило, много звёздные "генералы-адмиралы-и генералиссимусы"? recourse
              The trend, however .... lol
              1. vsoltan
                vsoltan 21 October 2015 16: 47 New
                +2
                It's simple, set up your notifications accordingly .... and you will have many, many stars .... I put a plus sign for you ... love
                1. Throw
                  Throw 21 October 2015 17: 02 New
                  +5
                  Carter draws cards laughing

                  У нас своя разведка есть, Джимми, поэтому рисуй карты на бумажке помягче и шли по адресу: "ИГИЛ. Сортир. Лично в ..."
                  am
                  1. Eugene-Eugene
                    Eugene-Eugene 21 October 2015 18: 12 New
                    0
                    Экс-президент США Джимми Картер: "Я передал Владимиру Путину карты"

                    Oh, another marazmatic drew. One has already been sent to negotiate: he cannot find the second shoe, he will confuse the day of the meeting in Minsk.
                  2. BABAY22
                    BABAY22 22 October 2015 01: 48 New
                    12
                    Quote: Lance
                    А кто мне подскажет, почему всегда, первые в комментах, как правило, много звёздные "генералы-адмиралы-и генералиссимусы"?


                    And I'll tell you how to become a cardboard marshal.

                    1. Придумываете лозунг. Например "Смерть фашистам!" Публиковать можно практически к любой статье. Минимум 20 плюсов вам обеспечено.
                    2. You need to put your comment in the top 5, for this there are two ways:
                    - Get ahead of everyone and be the first (it is the first, not the second, otherwise in half an hour your comment will be fifty-second). This option is of little use.
                    - Do not hurry. Wait for the first comments. And comment on the comment on the first comment or comment on the comment of the first comment. The whole thing is done. Make a hole in pursuit.
                    After 3-4 months, you - cardboard marshal!
                    1. Throw
                      Throw 23 October 2015 17: 26 New
                      0
                      Babai, if you quote, do not confuse the authors negative
                      1. BABAY22
                        BABAY22 23 October 2015 21: 46 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Lance
                        Babai, if you quote, do not confuse the authors

                        Lance, я ничего не путаю. Мой пост адресован именно Вам. А что бы мой ответ Вам не "упал" слишком низко в списке ответов, я его прикрепил к посту Юджин-Евгения. Всё согласно описанной мной выше технологии.
                      2. Throw
                        Throw 23 October 2015 22: 31 New
                        -1
                        Я "подсказок" не запрашивал. laughing
                        And I don’t need to ascribe to me Mitrich’s questions.
                        See who you quote.
            2. Doctor Savage
              Doctor Savage 21 October 2015 17: 38 New
              +6
              У меня был однажды первый коммент под текстом. Потом зашёл - а меня уже переместили. Подальше. А первыми стали быть "генералы".
              1. Eugene-Eugene
                Eugene-Eugene 21 October 2015 18: 25 New
                +8
                Conspiracy marshals become
              2. andj61
                andj61 21 October 2015 19: 58 New
                +9
                Quote: Doctor Savage
                У меня был однажды первый коммент под текстом. Потом зашёл - а меня уже переместили. Подальше. А первыми стали быть "генералы".

                While you read the article and wrote your comment generals and marshals have already managed to be noted - and nothing more. You would look at the time of your comment and others - and questions would no longer arise.
                1. Doctor Savage
                  Doctor Savage 23 October 2015 12: 19 New
                  +4
                  No, my dear!
                  After all, I have a saved file - where there is only one comment, mine.
              3. vsoltan
                vsoltan 21 October 2015 22: 58 New
                +1
                Well, you plus sign .... To comfort ... :)
                1. Throw
                  Throw 22 October 2015 00: 19 New
                  +4
                  Я вот все ххудею, зесь чо, "пoцpeoты" за звездами картонными сидять что ли?? laughing
            3. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 21 October 2015 21: 41 New
              11
              Quote: mitrich
              А кто мне подскажет, почему всегда, первые в комментах, как правило, много звёздные "генералы-адмиралы-и генералиссимусы"?

              Come on))) Do not envy, but rejoice for colleagues in the workshop)))
              Simply, unlike the ordinary and junior chief of staff. In the morning in the palms of the hands holding a tit, the senior chief of staff is already with a curvimeter and a map ........ i.e. with a mouse in his hands moves the front line soldier
              1. sharp-lad
                sharp-lad 21 October 2015 22: 05 New
                +5
                And someone humps behind claudia in front of the monitor for long nights, collecting stars slowly, tirelessly erasing letters from the keys smile hi .
                1. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 21 October 2015 22: 17 New
                  +3
                  Quote: sharp-lad
                  And someone humps behind claudia in front of the monitor for long nights, collecting stars slowly, tirelessly erasing letters from the keys

                  So what to do????? Sappers and snipers should not be in a hurry))) Step by step and stretching, pebble after bush, here’s a plus for you in a book, and you’ll smoke a minus for them all night FIG)))
            4. Bogranz
              Bogranz 21 October 2015 23: 49 New
              +5
              Well ... if you came here for high ranks, then I’ll disappoint: high military ranks earn in a completely different place.))) Well, SOME here simply treat their Napoleonic complexes.
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          3. sandrmur76
            sandrmur76 21 October 2015 16: 31 New
            +2
            05.07.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX Carter flew to us (Murmansk region) to fish! Now he provides maps of the militants. It’s hard to understand all this wassat .And it was like an enemy. Most likely the pensioner has nothing to do request
          4. meriem1
            meriem1 21 October 2015 18: 36 New
            0
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Quote: Papakiko
            What Ishak sweaty old can offer acre:

            Not even a couple. Demolish)))))))
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        3. Alexxas
          Alexxas 21 October 2015 19: 36 New
          0
          if I am not mistaken: ex-presidents have access to all the data of the existing president, or almost all? winked
          1. victor
            victor 21 October 2015 22: 39 New
            +4
            As the p., American intelligence officers are very well-mannered people, they naturally report to the first elder of the tribe of presidents. Since the elder - Jim, respectively, they reported to the first one. Then Bush is old, well, according to the list ... You can see Obama ... go for a long time (maybe that’s why he and Medvedev didn’t want to accept - it hasn’t come yet ... or have they reached?)
        4. velikoros-xnumx
          velikoros-xnumx 22 October 2015 08: 55 New
          +6
          Quote: Papakiko
          What Ishak sweaty old can offer acre:

          stop
          Потихоньку превращаемся в подобие цензора. Непристало воспитанным людям, уважающим себя высказываться подобным образом. Это не красит Вас, неуподобляйтесь "братьям нашим меньшим" с Украины.
      2. Karlovar
        Karlovar 21 October 2015 15: 02 New
        30
        In this way (through a combination allegedly Carter passed) the State Department preserves the face ....
      3. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 21 October 2015 15: 58 New
        +8
        Quote: Baikonur
        And so - where did he (Jimmy Carter (presidency: 1977-1981) get maps of the position of the militants in Syria today and how did he convey to Putin that, in theory, is secret in the US?
        positions since 1977 cooked, the Americans already knew exactly then, and about ISIS, Syria, Iraq ..... bully hi
      4. Thronekeeper
        Thronekeeper 21 October 2015 16: 28 New
        12
        No, not for money or cheap popularity for the sake of.
        Раньше, до рейгана у нас и враги были достойные (и ето не нытьё в стиле "Раньше девки были краше"). А так - последний адекватный президент - Дж.у. Буш старший. Нельзя оппонентов судить по де Биллу, Будаку и Бардаку, которые на горе всему миру и США Америкой последние 23 года правят.
        Картер если считает, что Обама делает д*урь, говорит об этом прямо. Как и констатация Киссинджером факта, что "Обама слил", а точнее, проспал, и в итоге переуступил лидерство на БВ.
        And about the goals. Maybe there were acquaintances with the modern military and intelligence elite of the United States, maybe - Obamku troll - HZ.
        May be an element of populism. According to the polls, in the USA, the operation of Russia supports 60%, and the policy of Obama - 32 :-)
        Well, the deceitful, talking nonsense Barack Gulag looks like a kind of whipping boy even inside the country.
        I don’t understand why (not you, but many) the poison comes from the address of the grandfather-dandelion.
      5. sherp2015
        sherp2015 22 October 2015 05: 43 New
        -2
        Quote: Baikonur
        Smeared up!


        Jimmy bullshit vparim our!
        Whatever they do, everything is necessary for some vile purpose ...
    2. _Vladislav_
      _Vladislav_ 21 October 2015 14: 54 New
      13
      Quote: vovanpain
      Yes, the devil knows them, when they become former, they somehow suddenly see clearly.

      What is true is true.

      But with regards to the data transferred. Believe not believe, the question is not even worth it. He is not an official person. The maximum that Russia will do with these data is only if it checks (and even that is not a fact). It is unlikely that anyone will carry out any actions based on what is written there accordingly.

      By the fact that for good, seriously, such data should be provided by the CIA, and not the 39th US President Jimmy Carter.

      PS
      In principle, Gorbachev could also transmit some data to Obama - but that would be the same nonsense.
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 21 October 2015 15: 01 New
        +1
        Senile senility ... An ordinary American will say ..... Yes, do Anglo-Saxon really have to live 80 years at least to see clearly ....
        Quote: _Vladislav_
        Quote: vovanpain
        Yes, the devil knows them, when they become former, they somehow suddenly see clearly.

        What is true is true.

        But with regards to the data transferred. Believe not believe, the question is not even worth it. He is not an official person. The maximum that Russia will do with these data is only if it checks (and even that is not a fact). It is unlikely that anyone will carry out any actions based on what is written there accordingly.

        By the fact that for good, seriously, such data should be provided by the CIA, and not the 39th US President Jimmy Carter.

        PS
        In principle, Gorbachev could also transmit some data to Obama - but that would be the same nonsense.
      2. Altona
        Altona 21 October 2015 15: 09 New
        +9
        Quote: _Vladislav_
        PS
        In principle, Gorbachev could also transmit some data to Obama - but that would be the same nonsense.

        -------------------
        Why nonsense? Mikhail Sergeyevich, in a blue eye, as they say, informed the Americans about the presence of a second nuclear center in Chelyabinsk, and so, by the little things, what kind of missiles, planes we have and what experts brought him to conclude contracts ... So it’s quite maybe through old connections I could get operational maps and photos ...
    3. viktorrymar
      viktorrymar 21 October 2015 14: 56 New
      +7
      "Карта с позициями боевиков", а на самом деле с больницами и мечетями?
      Nah such a card, which then will need to be double-checked?
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 21 October 2015 15: 00 New
        +6
        At one time they had a different attitude towards nuclear deterrence and understood (they still understand) that this was not a joke

        Therefore, they try to cooperate
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 21 October 2015 15: 35 New
          +3
          Quote: bulvas
          Therefore, they try to cooperate


          Вероятно по этому завезли модернизированные "А"-бомбы на свои базы в Германии. Нихерасе сотрудничество.
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          2. bulvas
            bulvas 21 October 2015 15: 53 New
            0
            Quote: Lelek
            Quote: bulvas
            Therefore, they try to cooperate


            Вероятно по этому завезли модернизированные "А"-бомбы на свои базы в Германии. Нихерасе сотрудничество.


            Carter is not in power now. He is most likely against any escalation, especially nuclear.
            By the way, it was Jimmy Carter who pushed OSV-1 and signed it together with Brezhnev in the 79th


            The problem is not that the bombs are modernized, we are also improving our nuclear weapons.
            The problem is that German planes are being remade under these bombs and trained pilots

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      3. Lelek
        Lelek 21 October 2015 15: 31 New
        +4
        Quote: viktorrymar
        "Карта с позициями боевиков", а на самом деле с больницами и мечетями?
        Nah such a card, which then will need to be double-checked?


        Вы совершенно правы. Может оказаться большой подставой. Англо-саксы на этом "собаку порыли". Потом доказывать, что ты не верблюд захохочешься. yes
    4. Sasha 19871987
      Sasha 19871987 21 October 2015 14: 58 New
      +6
      Carter is apparently tormented by conscience, so I decided to help ... maybe I'm mistaken, but I got this opinion
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 21 October 2015 16: 54 New
        +4
        Quote: sasha 19871987
        Carter is apparently tormented by conscience, so I decided to help ...


        Dear Alexander, I think Carter’s conscience should not be tormented, he is one of the few American presidents who really sought to reduce tension with the USSR. On his conscience, the signing of OSV-1, which was the first step towards detente.

        Something like this. hi
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 21 October 2015 17: 59 New
          +4
          Dear Alexander, I think Carter’s conscience should not be tormented, he is one of the few American presidents who really sought to reduce tension with the USSR. On his conscience, the signing of OSV-1, which was the first step towards detente.

          "+"! хотел написать то же самое... помнится 79-й год, приезжала выставка достижений сельского хозяйства США в Ростов-на-Дону. По-моему это был пик нормальных отношений. Его еще обвиняли в доверчивости к СССР. А что касается ложных целей, как некоторые кричат - внимательно надо слушать наших военных все проверяется многократно, никогда наша разведка не пользовалась одним или двумя источниками информации. Да и он хоть и в годах, но маразмом не отличается хотя бы последовательностью своих поступков. А это тоже поступок, даже если цели и не представляют особой ценности hi
    5. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 21 October 2015 15: 24 New
      +5
      vovanpain
      Yes, the devil knows them, when they become former, they somehow suddenly see clearly.

      Это не прозрение! Это пример НЕ ТРАДИЦИОННОЙ ДИПЛОМАТИИ! Официоз Вашингтона, после серии заявлений об отказе в сотрудничестве с РФ просто, не может вот так - взять и передать эти карты ВКС РФ...что бы не "потерять лицо" перед своими избирателями и союзниками, перед организованными теми же а.М.ерами отрядами террористов!...
      Who will believe in WASHINGTON AFTER THIS!
      А вот передав через КАРТЕРА... карты дислокаций игиловцев, решён вопрос взаимоотношения волков и овец! РФ - получила то, что нам надо (вроде как волки сыты!)...и США как бы ни причем (и овцы -целы!)! Ведь Картер - это "частное лицо," хотя и носит до смерти звание МИСТЕР ПРЕЗИДЕНТ!!! Не зря же Картер пошутил и :
      ... not without irony, declared:
      Thus, in the future, if Russia suddenly bombed the wrong places, you will know that this is not Putin’s fault, but my fault.

      But calling the name of V. PUTIN, Carter had in mind and should read - THAT THIS IS NOT USA Fault !!!
    6. Lelek
      Lelek 21 October 2015 15: 26 New
      -2
      Quote: vovanpain
      Yes, the devil knows them, when they become former, they somehow suddenly see clearly.


      Ну, знаете, с паршивой овцы - хоть "файв о клокк".
    7. nadezhiva
      nadezhiva 21 October 2015 15: 49 New
      +1
      I hope this today's strike Carter does not ascribe to himself laughing
    8. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 21 October 2015 16: 06 New
      0
      Quote: vovanpain
      Yes, the devil knows them, when they become former, they somehow suddenly see clearly.


      It is understandable - the party does not need to work out. Another is strange. Where did he get such a card from and why is he still not in prison if the transfer took place.
    9. mosquit
      mosquit 21 October 2015 20: 36 New
      0
      Да нет, во времена Картера, вроде был "застой" "холодной войны"... hi
    10. Koshak
      Koshak 21 October 2015 23: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: vovanpain
      Yes, the devil knows them, when they become former, they somehow suddenly see clearly.

      Well, where did the former map with the positions of terrorists come from? Or is he part of the leadership of ISIS?
    11. shpilkerman
      shpilkerman 23 October 2015 21: 13 New
      -1
      Well, of course) Have you seen Gorbachev? After all that he had done, he began to sculpt on the air, saying that Russia needs to be done so as not to collapse))
      Maybe it's such a delicate trolling?
  2. Good me
    Good me 21 October 2015 14: 49 New
    +3
    Quote: A-Sim
    Какая неприкрытая дэза ("газетная утка").


    Yes ? And if so, how and why did she appear here? How did you miss it?

    Question... what
  3. Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 21 October 2015 14: 57 New
    +3
    Any information is useful - as information for consideration. what
  4. vodolaz
    vodolaz 21 October 2015 15: 05 New
    +1
    As Western politicians resign, it seems that their brain is turning on. Although this story is hard to believe.
  5. Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 21 October 2015 15: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: A-Sim
    Какая неприкрытая дэза ("газетная утка"). Как же бомбили до четверга???? Наверное "по глобусу".

    And without this old pepperstick, would nothing have happened at all? Without his cards. It's amazing how you want to attract attention to yourself in retirement ...
  6. Puler
    Puler 21 October 2015 15: 10 New
    +3
    where the globe comes from, a pack of cigarettes Belomor Canal ...
  7. Russian Uzbek
    Russian Uzbek 21 October 2015 15: 40 New
    +3
    здесь дело то не в картах с отметками а в том что в американском истеблишменте назрела открытая фронда "неоконам"...
    noteworthy in this context are the words of Mr. Carter:
    """таким образом, в будущем, если Россия вдруг будет бомбить неправильные места, вы будете знать, что это не вина Путина, а моя вина"""
  8. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 21 October 2015 15: 55 New
    +3
    Calmly. Do not think that these cards were immediately handed over to the pilots. There is intelligence, it will put everything in its place. We have no fools of this level.
  9. atalef
    atalef 21 October 2015 16: 02 New
    -3
    Quote: A-Sim
    Какая неприкрытая дэза ("газетная утка"). Как же бомбили до четверга???? Наверное "по глобусу".

    Carter Old senile laughing
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 21 October 2015 16: 22 New
      -2
      Quote: atalef
      Carter Old senile


      ... and he promised Putin to give him a nuclear suitcase ...
  10. Proud.
    Proud. 21 October 2015 16: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: A-Sim
    Как же бомбили до четверга???? Наверное "по глобусу".

    good Ага.По "глобусу Сирии".
  11. Ratnik555
    Ratnik555 21 October 2015 17: 00 New
    +1
    Offend .... by a pack of Belomera
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  13. pvv113
    pvv113 21 October 2015 20: 05 New
    +2
    У нас в аналогичных случаях говорили: "По пачке Беломора" wink
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 21 October 2015 22: 08 New
      -2
      Блин! Мне кажется, что на этой "карте" Сирии нет! Или у вас выпустили папиросы в пачках с актуальной картой. wink
  14. Lenin
    Lenin 23 October 2015 09: 06 New
    0
    How? How? ... According to school outline maps of the history of the Ancient World ... laughing
  15. MAFIA
    MAFIA 24 October 2015 01: 36 New
    -1
    Good man Carter, probably the best president of the United States.
  • Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 21 October 2015 14: 46 New
    11
    Already read somewhere. For me, nonsense. Old Man Jimmy will not hide in Sheremetyevo like Snowden. laughing Wrong age. But if the grandfather’s truth is titanium Faberge !!! good
    1. Penetrator
      Penetrator 21 October 2015 14: 51 New
      +9
      Quote: Vladimir
      Grandfather has titanium Faberge !!!

      Old Guard, what do you want smile Many sane Presidents in the United States were, starting with Roosevelt - Kennedy, Nixon, the same Carter, Bush Sr. .. In general, one cannot measure US politics with one measure - Carter’s America is not Obama’s America at all. Previously, more sane people were in power.
      1. Michael easily
        Michael easily 21 October 2015 14: 58 New
        +2
        Старая "гвардия" может себе позволить пооткровенничать - http://russia-insider.com/ru/politika/dzhimmi-karter-ssha-eto-oligarhiya-s-neogr
        anichennym-politicheskim-vzyatochnichestvom # .Vhz63k_KeKU.vk
      2. Good me
        Good me 21 October 2015 15: 08 New
        +7
        Quote: Penetrator
        Previously, more sane people were in power.


        And sanity begins with awareness of responsibility. That benefactor, which the Presidents of the USA have fatally missed for almost 3 decades.

        Но "невменяемость",она лечится, треснул по башке,раз-другой-третий, и Оп-Па fellow , began to think ...
    2. Denis DV
      Denis DV 21 October 2015 14: 54 New
      +3
      It seems he has immunity. They are presidents, as well as former, who quietly urinate - without ships. Democracy her mother hi
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 21 October 2015 14: 46 New
    +4
    The old devil is lying ... Like a gray gelding! We know these cards already ... hi
  • olegfbi
    olegfbi 21 October 2015 14: 46 New
    +2
    Ах какие "красивые" игры или откровенная деза\вброс.
  • lukke
    lukke 21 October 2015 14: 48 New
    +2
    something nikher did not understand: Carter imagined himself? positions for airstrikes a clean gag of the Carter Center and its sources from intelligence?) times the Pentagon and the State Department are denied? Cool ...
    I hope on those maps of the residence of Bashar al-Assad and much of which has not been applied)))
    In general, it’s fun - it’s like, for example, Gorbi would come to the United States and declare: I brought them my maps of Afghanistan with the Taliban positions on them. I got the data from my sources, so comrade Democrats, if Che, blame not Obama but me, Michael Gorbi!
    Clowns
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    2. lukke
      lukke 21 October 2015 15: 10 New
      0
      So I see a press conference in the State Department and Jen Psaki makes excuses about the next bombing of some school, hospital near Kabul: You see, one grandfather from Russia came here, the former prezik, brought a bunch of cards to us and said, if it’s not so - personally answer!) and left, the old gelding. Well, we believed, although the Kremlin did not officially confirm ANYTHING ... So what ?!
    3. 0255
      0255 21 October 2015 15: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: lukke
      In general, it’s fun - it’s like, for example, Gorbi would come to the United States and declare: I brought them my maps of Afghanistan with the Taliban positions on them. I got the data from my sources, so comrade Democrats, if Che, blame not Obama but me, Michael Gorbi!
      Clowns

      Gorbachev long ago gave Margaret Thatcher maps, parts of the Strategic Missile Forces, even before he became Secretary General. It was obviously fun am
      1. lukke
        lukke 21 October 2015 16: 16 New
        +2
        and where did he get them (and what does the part of the Strategic Missile Forces on the map mean - the launch mines? the canteen of the missile soldiers)? or - and who gave them to him? we have that they were drawn up in the USSR for each collective farm chairman?
  • Finches
    Finches 21 October 2015 14: 48 New
    +2
    А почему бы и нет!Ведь именно в соответствие с "доктриной Картера", объявленной в 1980 году, попытки любой державы установить свой контроль над регионом Персидского залива есть посягательство на национальные интересы США!Так что такие карты у 39-го президента США могли быть!Я к тому, что американцы, еще тогда могли начать создавать стационарные базы на этих территориях - законсервированные опорные пункты!
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 21 October 2015 15: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: Finches
      I mean, the Americans, even then, could begin to create stationary bases in these territories - mothballed strong points!

      Не плохая версия, но это по сути " инфо бомба" для США! Я не верю, считаю попытка поднять имидж США на БВ...Нужно продолжать мочить, иначе "уболтают"!
  • roskot
    roskot 21 October 2015 14: 48 New
    +2
    But Brokeback did not transmit anything. He is also one of those democrats.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 21 October 2015 15: 06 New
      +4
      Hunchback didn’t pass .... he betrayed ....
  • Genur
    Genur 21 October 2015 14: 49 New
    +4
    On this subject, Russian sayings:
    -Trust but verify
    -Seven times measure cut once...
    1. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 21 October 2015 15: 09 New
      +2
      Or here’s an old hunting one: a bear that knows about an ambush, when it doesn’t get into it.
  • AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 21 October 2015 14: 50 New
    0
    grandfather’s attempt to remind himself of the world.
  • GYGOLA
    GYGOLA 21 October 2015 14: 50 New
    +3
    Cards ... cards ... handed out ... But is Carter not whistling? I think they are being checked with his own, are they not speckled hi
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 21 October 2015 15: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: GYGOLA
      I think they are checked with their own, are they not speckled


      You sho belay how could you think this about Carter! laughing - Valid! Here is the signature and seal: Minister of Finance and Adjutant Popandopulo from Odessa, take everything, I’ll draw it for myself (c)
      Quote: GYGOLA
      Cards ... cards ... handed out ... But is Carter whistling?


      In their club it is customary for gentlemen to take a word! laughing
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 21 October 2015 15: 04 New
      +1
      Maybe he already confuses poker cards with the globe ...
      Quote: GYGOLA
      Cards ... cards ... handed out ... But is Carter not whistling? I think they are being checked with his own, are they not speckled hi
  • Portak
    Portak 21 October 2015 14: 52 New
    +2
    in Georgia are still growing drug-containing plants in the mountains?)))
  • mig31
    mig31 21 October 2015 14: 52 New
    +7
    Be it true, I’ll drink standing up !!!! If only without loss. Take-off and landing, and may the Lord keep our VKS, as he kept us in the days of the USSR, what a witness .....
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 21 October 2015 14: 58 New
      +4
      I have a feeling that we are on the censor.
      1. kil 31
        kil 31 21 October 2015 15: 11 New
        0
        For what a minus. Because the old one is not needed by anyone, he decided to remember about himself? Such and others before .... I. One hunchback was worth it.
        1. mig31
          mig31 21 October 2015 15: 18 New
          0
          Less - not mine - I'm a soldier with the rank of colonel, by the way - cropped ....
        2. kil 31
          kil 31 21 October 2015 15: 24 New
          -5
          Who minus, think so. Old Russophobe, even himself poorly moving. He knows where on the BV points of ISIS. Who does he need .... to throw off information to him. You are stupid.
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 21 October 2015 14: 56 New
    11
    Carter, I remember, was negotiating and negotiating with the Soviet leaders, despite all the difference in ideology. Carter never equated Brezhnev with a virus and, moreover, did not compare it with Hitler, which is a monstrous blasphemy over the memory of the Great Patriotic War.

    Обама вообще разговаривать демонстративно "не хочет", не говоря о том, чтобы что-то положительное совместно делать.

    Видимо, потому, что Картер осознавал, что он руководит мощной страной, которая, однако, не является "исключительной" и "богоизбранной". Исключительность (чисто фашистская идеология) придумал Обама.
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 21 October 2015 15: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Gormengast
      negotiated and agreed with the Soviet leaders

      Yes, Carter was never a convenient president:
      - military assistance to Afghan mujahideen;
      - boycott of the Moscow Olympics;
      - freezing ratification of OSV-2;
      - sanctions against the USSR.
      1. Corsair0304
        Corsair0304 21 October 2015 15: 48 New
        +2
        Strategic planning for the USSR was carried out under President J. Carter in two planes:

        In one, the American government recognized parity and signed the SALT-2 Treaty, fixing the approximate equality of the strategic arsenals of the two great powers. In another plane, the American leadership stubbornly searched for ways to optimize its military machine, and modernized its strategic forces.
      2. Gormenghast
        Gormenghast 21 October 2015 15: 53 New
        +4
        Undoubtedly not. Like none of the presidents of the USSR.

        Однако, даже "Evil empire" от Рейгана не так гнусно звучит, как "Ebola virus and Russia" от Обамы. И я не помню высказываний, насчет "исключительности", как от фашиста Обамы.
    2. AlexeyL
      AlexeyL 22 October 2015 18: 46 New
      0
      Exclusivity (purely fascist ideology) was invented by Obama.

      More precisely, under Obama. I don’t think that Obama has independent decisions, most likely this is a doll on someone’s hand.
  • pts-m
    pts-m 21 October 2015 14: 57 New
    0
    apparently, this crater all night long drew a map with the coordinates of the militants. Having received not long before this a bribe from the same militants with their notes, where the points of deployment of the Bashar al-Assad forces were plotted.
  • HMR333
    HMR333 21 October 2015 14: 59 New
    +1
    cheap PR! he is someone and his data is nothing if you bomb on his map, the stink will go that they say you’re not going to hit it! not one sane person seriously will not behave such a card from a former non-representative of power! It’s for the media that we are working together! they would still have a homeless person from a bradway asked for a map to be sent to the embassy!
  • Evver
    Evver 21 October 2015 15: 03 New
    +5
    " ...Джимми Картер выразил поддержку решению России помочь сирийской армии ударами по боевикам с воздуха"

    even for that alone - thanks, Mr. ex-president laughing
  • Engineer
    Engineer 21 October 2015 15: 04 New
    +1
    I don’t understand, but what Carter has to do with US military intelligence? He has nothing to do with the CIA or the Pentagon. Is this a joke or something?
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 21 October 2015 15: 04 New
    +1
    And, according to the former owner of the White House, such data in the form of cards with special notes were provided to Moscow.

    And if not to believe?
    После всех инсинуаций со стороны официальных лиц Белого Дома в своих действиях Россия должна руководствоваться предположениями "бывших"? Собственно, у наших ВКС и без них неплохо получается. request
  • Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 21 October 2015 15: 05 New
    +2
    Before transferring data, everything that needs to be moved
  • Steppe
    Steppe 21 October 2015 15: 10 New
    +1
    winked Why would the US suddenly want to merge Russian terrorists into Syria? After all, they poured crazy money into them to appear and multiply there. Is it because they behave so that they waved a hand at Syria? And is it not because they behave in such a way that the things in Afghanistan to plant terrorists went well with them?
  • veksha50
    veksha50 21 October 2015 15: 11 New
    +2
    "Напомним, что Джимми Картер expressed support решению России помочь сирийской армии ударами по боевикам с воздуха"...

    This, it seems, is good ... However, I would absolutely not trust this card ... Maybe there is such a setup that we will spit and launder for a long time ...

    PS Where did the ex-president get top secret information about the locations of ISIS formations ??? Who will give it to him, if not for the purpose of misinformation ???
  • vobels
    vobels 21 October 2015 15: 12 New
    +4
    Any information is interesting, there is something to compare. And, of course, our VKS will not fly headlong at these points. Trust and Verify! And the very fact of sobriety of Carter’s views on the situation in Syria is already pleasing.
  • Starik72
    Starik72 21 October 2015 15: 13 New
    +1
    Well, I handed over the cards, so what. Who said or said that WE will strike on these cards? Indeed, the US has its own intelligence, backed up by Syrian and Iranian intelligence, and they are more accurate as far as received at the moment, and not yesterday. It’s just a good game with a bad mine. Or, as the people say: God is on you that I’m not good!
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 21 October 2015 15: 15 New
    +3
    Jimmy Carter is 90 years old (and he is now being treated for cancer).
    What kind of cards does he have, it's hard to even guess ...
    1. twviewer
      twviewer 21 October 2015 16: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Jimmy Carter is already 90 years old (and now he is being treated for cancer). What kind of cards he has, it's hard to even guess ...

      It's not about the cards, but about what he says.
      if Russia suddenly bombed the wrong places, you will know that this is not Putin’s fault, but my fault.

      Grandfather whipped a pair of twos of lovers of flash drives - just business :)
    2. Das Boot
      Das Boot 21 October 2015 16: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      What are his cards

      medical
    3. user1212
      user1212 23 October 2015 06: 02 New
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Jimmy Carter is 90 years old (and he is now being treated for cancer).
      What kind of cards does he have, it's hard to even guess ...

      Официально РФ не входит в американскую коалицию, потому никакого обмена разведданными быть не может. Однако отсутствие диалога пугает американцев и рождает много вопросов у журналистов по теме "борьбы с терроризмом". Если официальные контакты не желательны (вспомним как американцы отказались принимать медведя), а диалог нужен, то можно достать из шкафа старого президента и отправить с неофициальным визитом. На официальном уровне, безусловно, будут все отрицать и сказки рисовать из разряда "это он сам и мы тут не при чем"
  • Aleksey888
    Aleksey888 21 October 2015 15: 29 New
    +1
    And why in the age of mobile communications cards? laughing
  • Riv
    Riv 21 October 2015 15: 32 New
    +2
    The article was translated a little incorrectly. Carter said:
    - Я ему (Путину) передал все карты, которые у меня были. А он потом звонит мне и говорит: "Ну ты, Джимми, и гаденыш! У тебя в колоде туза червей не хватает, а валетов семь штук. Сели с Димоном в рамс, он как начал мальцов объявлять... Хрен тебе сам знаешь куда, а не новый зубной протез!" В общем нехорошо получилось.

    That's how it was.
  • xBoris
    xBoris 21 October 2015 15: 36 New
    -1
    .. Ah well done !!! The old guard.
    He clearly understands that you need to think not about the short-term, about the pocket ... but about the great, interests of everyone as a whole.
    That's just scary to think - what would we do with such a person ..
    1. vitaliy.rnd
      vitaliy.rnd 21 October 2015 15: 45 New
      +2
      I do not believe him. Such things are not arbitrarily done.
  • Gor-1974
    Gor-1974 21 October 2015 15: 37 New
    +1
    Yes ... campaign cards are marked. I wonder what game Carter wants to throw them.
  • vitaliy.rnd
    vitaliy.rnd 21 October 2015 15: 41 New
    0
    Interestingly, he himself drew them or a specialist from ISIS helped.
  • semuil
    semuil 21 October 2015 15: 42 New
    +1
    In the photo, is this how he draws a map for Putin? We need to give the grandfather a return gift: a pencil, where on one side there is a blue stylus, on the other red.
  • slaw14
    slaw14 21 October 2015 15: 44 New
    +1
    Джимми Картер:"Я передал Владимиру Путину коды запуска наших ракет, тфу, карты с нанесёнными позициями боевиков в Сирии"
  • AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 21 October 2015 15: 48 New
    0
    It is likely that these data were correct a month before the transfer of card A. Since then, a lot of water has flowed
  • Gorbtk
    Gorbtk 21 October 2015 15: 52 New
    +1
    But what didn’t he ask for citizenship at once .... probably forgot ... he became old, memory to hell ..
  • prishelec
    prishelec 21 October 2015 15: 54 New
    0
    Can I also give Putin cards with tags. wassat
  • 501Legion
    501Legion 21 October 2015 15: 57 New
    0
    this is a turn, someone is very upset in the west and dill
  • KORSAR12
    KORSAR12 21 October 2015 16: 00 New
    +1
    Suppose he generally handed over blank sheets of paper, without any information. What harm did he do to Russia? The fact that he is a used president of the United States by his example has shown that Russia needs help in the fight against this infection, is already distancing him from ISIS. And about the quality of infa, desa or not, such things are being checked very quickly now ...
  • Byordovvv1
    Byordovvv1 21 October 2015 16: 09 New
    +2
    He betrayed those places where IG MANPADS could be
  • kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 21 October 2015 16: 13 New
    0
    what the hell is not joking, we can really convey!
  • Das Boot
    Das Boot 21 October 2015 16: 13 New
    -1
    B / \ i-in, so Gorbachev has all our plans in the bedside table near the bed, somewhere between a bottle with a laxative and a Nobel letter ... Bony fingers of pensioners on the pulse of the world .... I'm in shock ... .
  • 1rl141
    1rl141 21 October 2015 16: 15 New
    +1
    Yes, everything is clear why he said this. That there was a small reason to cling to a strange, inevitable victory. This was already in 1945. And then to inflate its significance and quietly move all the other winners. In 5-6 years, the Americans will scream at the whole world with foam at the mouth that they were a key figure in the victory over terrorism and without their secret map the world would plunge into chaos. And the map was personally obtained by James Bond, on the instructions of Obama, from the most important terrorist, after having seduced his entire harem. And he was helped by Spider-Man, Captain America and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Turtles were also seen in the harem .... All awarded with orders of Sutulov with a spin on the back!
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 21 October 2015 19: 52 New
      +4
      But this is soooooo good for the truth, + mine. But didn’t they rewrite the history of the Second World War. Then it will be very similar to the truth. Was it in Moscow? It was! It was transmitted? It was transferred! It was bombed exactly at the objects? Sniper !!! a new story. And what was there on the map? Yes, it doesn’t matter. The main thing is to put together the facts in one big lie. Well, ours will be silent, and silence is a sign of consent.
  • Shmal_
    Shmal_ 21 October 2015 16: 16 New
    0
    Yes, the old man is certainly well done! Perhaps he really, through old contacts has not the latest and not the most accurate information. What he himself admitted, saying that he lacks data. But such an act cannot but arouse respect and attract attention to it! And he is pleased, to amuse pride and Russia is useful politically.
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 21 October 2015 16: 21 New
    0
    Map of the strikes of the Russian Aerospace Forces.
  • Zai pali
    Zai pali 21 October 2015 16: 25 New
    0
    If you helped, then well done. good
  • 31rus
    31rus 21 October 2015 16: 26 New
    0
    Dear, everything is simple, it’s quite possible that I transferred the cards, and some of the goals will be reliable (those that we already know about), but the supply of arms and mercenaries will be increased right there, the goal is understandable to draw Russia into the war as much as possible I’m surprised if both Iraq and Afghanistan ask for our help, war is war and not only troops are defeated, but also economies, politicians
  • Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 21 October 2015 16: 28 New
    0
    Quote: Baikonur
    And so - where did he (Jimmy Carter (presidency: 1977-1981) get maps of the position of the militants in Syria today and how did he convey to Putin that, in theory, is secret in the US?

    В СГА никто лучше ЦРУ не знает мест дислокации их верных сатрапов, так что этим картам доверять нельзя - пахнет большой подставой России, ну на худой конец эти объекты окажутся "секретными" тракторами, а в худшем очередным госпиталем или электроподстанцией. Ну а старичок прославится как друг России и Путина, и вообще поборник борьбы с террористами! Ну и дай бог ему еще много лет жизни. hi
  • Max40
    Max40 21 October 2015 16: 28 New
    0
    Although he correctly showed on the map where Syria is located, it wasn’t a lot of mistakes and showed somewhere around Saudi Arabia)))))
  • bubla5
    bubla5 21 October 2015 16: 43 New
    0
    What this old morazmatik can convey, only satin maps of the last century
  • gomer
    gomer 21 October 2015 16: 53 New
    0
    Something they see when they become out of work. Either conscience torments, or simply muddied water.
  • mamont5
    mamont5 21 October 2015 16: 56 New
    0
    Quote: A-Sim
    Какая неприкрытая дэза ("газетная утка"). Как же бомбили до четверга???? Наверное "по глобусу".

    And here is the duck and death? No one even says that they used to be bombed at random, and additional intelligence is never superfluous. Of course, everything needs to be checked.
  • Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 21 October 2015 16: 57 New
    -1
    In addition, the former US president previously stated that he understood Russia's concern about the coup d'état in Kiev, after which NATO could well move on to the Russian borders. Carter noted that under the conditions that developed in Ukraine, the exit of Crimea from its composition was inevitable.


    Carter has always been a pragmatist; this cannot be taken away from him. hi