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Egypt buys four submarines in Germany

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Egypt ordered from Germany 4 diesel-electric submarines of the Type 209 project, as expected, the first submarine will be included fleet at the end of 2016, reports RIA News the message of the commander-in-chief of the Egyptian Navy, Munir Rabia.


Egypt buys four submarines in Germany


“Acceptance of the first Type 209 submarine of the four ordered in Germany will take place at the end of 2016 of the year”- Rabia told reporters.

According to him, "at the moment, Egyptian sailors are undergoing special training in Germany on the further exploitation of these submarines."

The commander also told about the conclusion of a contract with France for the supply of more 4-frigates. Three of them will be built on the territory of Egypt.

Rabia answered the questions of journalists about the appointment of the recently acquired “Mistrals” from France: "The strategic goals that the Mistral fulfills are landing from sea to coast, the transfer of armed forces to other states, work as a joint headquarters for operations management, as well as operations to provide assistance to the affected countries."
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  1. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 21 October 2015 10: 44 New
    +2
    Oh, you shouldn’t be fooled by the French))) they are not reliable tips) laughing
    1. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 21 October 2015 10: 46 New
      +8
      Somehow abruptly, Egypt begins to gain momentum in armament ... Given the fact that they are all bought by Salafists (Saudis) .. to put it mildly - I do not like it ... until the heap of the Russian Defense Ministry they were going to understaff
      1. Hello
        Hello 21 October 2015 11: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: Captain Air Force
        Somehow abruptly, Egypt begins to gain momentum in armament ... Given the fact that they are all bought by Salafists (Saudis) .. to put it mildly - I do not like it ... until the heap of the Russian Defense Ministry they were going to understaff

        The Saudis are interested in a counterweight to Iran, nothing comes out of their army, and they are arming Egypt.
        Do not quite understand what prevents Russia from strong Egypt?
        1. Eugene-Eugene
          Eugene-Eugene 21 October 2015 11: 35 New
          +3
          Do not quite understand what prevents Russia from strong Egypt?

          Народ пытается разобраться в связке "Египет-саудиты", отсюда возникают некоторые вопросы.

          If Egypt fights in the Middle East, nothing good comes of it: it has a collapsing North Africa with weakened or destroyed regimes (except Algeria) and 100 has no geopolitical competitors per square meter. Apparently, the Saudis and took his army to provide, to send it in the right direction to them, that is, to the Middle East and thereby divert Egypt from North Africa. But, on the other hand, the British also pumped some people on the threshold of the 2MW, and then hid in basements.
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 21 October 2015 12: 10 New
            +4
            Quote: Eugene-Eugene
            But, on the other hand, the British also pumped some up on the threshold of WW2, and then hid in the basements.

            and then Rommel came and debased everything ...
        2. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 21 October 2015 11: 36 New
          0
          It is better to communicate with 10 small armies (there is a chance that they will quarrel). With the Arabs, the brain dries up with an increase in strength and begins to pull them on stupid actions (At one time, Turkey got tired of it all.)
        3. avt
          avt 21 October 2015 12: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: Hello
          Do not quite understand what prevents Russia from strong Egypt?

          Yes, nothing.
          Quote: Hello
          The Saudis are interested in a counterweight to Iran, nothing comes out of their army, and they are arming Egypt.

          Well, if they want to put them in Yemen .... laughing But the local men in skirts already at the time of Nasser put an enema to the Egyptian corps with gramophone needles on a scipedar, even though Nykyt packed them with our weapons to build socialism.
          Quote: Eugene-Eugene
          Народ пытается разобраться в связке "Египет-саудиты", отсюда возникают некоторые вопросы.

          What is there to understand? It’s all that’s needed. Earlier, Egyptian migrant workers at Muammor worked in Libya, while the local jamaherians worked. I just didn’t understand what they clung to in the 209s? Like Israel? Could and order 212/214 - to walk, so to walk, especially since the Saudis pay.
      2. wk
        wk 21 October 2015 12: 09 New
        -5
        Quote: Air Force Captain
        Salafis (Saudis) ..

        the Saudis are not Salafis, but Wahhabis! ..... and how do you get information that the SA is providing military assistance to the Egyptian regime ?, where radical Islam is being severely persecuted.
        1. Slobber
          Slobber 21 October 2015 12: 19 New
          +4
          the Saudis are not Salafis, but Wahhabis!

          Well kah, well kah, but how are the Salafis different from the Wahhabis?
        2. andj61
          andj61 21 October 2015 12: 30 New
          0
          Quote: wk
          Quote: Air Force Captain
          Salafis (Saudis) ..

          the Saudis are not Salafis, but Wahhabis! ..... and how do you get information that the SA is providing military assistance to the Egyptian regime ?, where radical Islam is being severely persecuted.

          In fact, if we consider these religious movements in a complex, the difference is small.
          To understand the difference between today's Salafism and Wahhabism, it must be borne in mind that among the Salafists themselves there are various currents. One of them is the purists, who preach the true, from their point of view, Islam, do not pursue any political goals and reject violence. Wahhabis, as a rule, can only be assigned to the first group of Salafists. The obvious difference between the two is that the Wahhabis maintain the loyalty of the royal al-Saud dynasty. Salafis, however, seek to create a purely Islamic state without the secular power inherent in the kingdom. Http://www.dw.com/en/%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BC-%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1% 85% D1% 85% D0% B0% D0
          %B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8B-%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%8E%D1%82%D1%81%D1%
          8F-%D0%BE%D1%82-%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2/a-1735825
          2


          Как это ни странно, Египет вооружается на деньги саудитов - и самолёты покупает, и "Мистрали", и подводные лодки. В ответ Египет помогает СА в её войне в Йемене.
        3. Hello
          Hello 21 October 2015 21: 30 New
          0
          Quote: wk
          and where did you get the information that the CA is providing military assistance to the regime of Egypt ?,

          The Saudis do not hide their help to Egypt, they really do not like the Muslim brothers whom Qatar sponsors.
    2. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 21 October 2015 10: 47 New
      +2
      Mistrals, submarines, one question why do they need them?
      1. Maxom75
        Maxom75 21 October 2015 10: 49 New
        +5
        The Saudis are preparing a counterweight to Iran. They want Egypt to keep Suez untouchable.
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 21 October 2015 11: 07 New
          +5
          Quote: Maxom75
          counterbalance to Iran. They want Egypt to keep Suez untouchable.

          Where is Iran and where is Suez ...
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          2. bulvas
            bulvas 21 October 2015 11: 29 New
            0
            Quote: V.ic
            Quote: Maxom75
            counterbalance to Iran. They want Egypt to keep Suez untouchable.

            Where is Iran and where is Suez ...


            Iran can enter the world only through Suez

            Oil to be transported to Europe - only through Suez

            1. atalef
              atalef 21 October 2015 11: 37 New
              +2
              Quote: bulvas
              Quote: V.ic
              Quote: Maxom75
              counterbalance to Iran. They want Egypt to keep Suez untouchable.

              Where is Iran and where is Suez ...


              Iran can enter the world only through Suez

              Oil to be transported to Europe - only through Suez

              Strange, but something else is visible on the map.
              1. bulvas
                bulvas 21 October 2015 12: 36 New
                0
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: bulvas
                Quote: V.ic
                Quote: Maxom75
                counterbalance to Iran. They want Egypt to keep Suez untouchable.

                Where is Iran and where is Suez ...


                Iran can enter the world only through Suez

                Oil to be transported to Europe - only through Suez

                Strange, but something else is visible on the map.


                Into the world - meaning the West, for example, the sea route to the coast of Gaza or Syria

                As for oil to Europe -
                - what is seen on the map? Way around Africa?

                1. atalef
                  atalef 21 October 2015 13: 01 New
                  -1
                  Quote: bulvas
                  Quote: atalef
                  Quote: bulvas
                  Quote: V.ic
                  Quote: Maxom75
                  counterbalance to Iran. They want Egypt to keep Suez untouchable.

                  Where is Iran and where is Suez ...


                  Iran can enter the world only through Suez

                  Oil to be transported to Europe - only through Suez

                  Strange, but something else is visible on the map.


                  Into the world - meaning the West, for example, the sea route to the coast of Gaza or Syria
                  о
                  As for oil to Europe -
                  - what is seen on the map? Way around Africa?

                  You know, you used the word - only - it doesn’t mean options in Russian, then, but what Iran sells oil to Gaza and Syria? - Are these his main buyers here?
                  Then, and with what exit (free) of Iran - to the Indian Ocean - is this not an exit to the world? Isn't the way around Africa to Europe?
                  I do not want to remind you about the purchase of oil and the fact that tankers do not have state. Supplies of oil transported by them, Iran can so easily (as is often done) sell oil in the bulk port, and the tanker carrying it is not Iranian, and oil is no longer his. How about this?
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                  2. bulvas
                    bulvas 21 October 2015 13: 14 New
                    0
                    Quote: atalef
                    How about this?


                    Если у меня и были иллюзии, что atalef знает больше других или видит дальше других, или казалось, что у atalef'а есть интересные мысли,
                    - то теперь понятно, что atalef'а хлебом ( или питой с хумусом, что больше нравится) не корми, дай поспорить по делу или без дела - не важно

                    1. atalef
                      atalef 21 October 2015 15: 46 New
                      -1
                      Quote: bulvas
                      Quote: atalef
                      How about this?


                      Если у меня и были иллюзии, что atalef знает больше других или видит дальше других, или казалось, что у atalef'а есть интересные мысли,
                      - то теперь понятно, что atalef'а хлебом ( или питой с хумусом, что больше нравится) не корми, дай поспорить по делу или без дела - не важно

                      Disappointments are a part of life, with respect. hi
                      Yes, re-read your post and maybe decide otherwise laughing
      2. Vend
        Vend 21 October 2015 10: 50 New
        0
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        Mistrals, submarines, one question why do they need them?

        If you want to prevent mattresses from reaching you, you have to be strong. Then the allies will help to defend against the United States.
      3. A-Sim
        A-Sim 21 October 2015 10: 58 New
        0
        I already asked. Our Israeli forum users assured that they know well - why.
      4. Das Boot
        Das Boot 21 October 2015 11: 17 New
        0
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        Mistrals, submarines, one question why do they need them?

        Рабиа ответил: «Стратегические цели, которые выполняет "Мистраль" – это десантирование с моря на берег, transfer of armed forces to other states(C)
        no more, no less)
      5. Tra-ta-ta
        Tra-ta-ta 21 October 2015 11: 17 New
        +1
        one question why do they need them?
        Go to YouTube on the page of E. Satanovsky:
        Египет ждёт суровое обезвоживание,когда на Юге закончат строительство "запруды"..
      6. veksha50
        veksha50 21 October 2015 11: 23 New
        0
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        Mistrals, submarines, one question why do they need them?



        Most likely, it was not for them specifically, but for the Saudis ... They are behind Egypt ...
      7. Tuzik
        Tuzik 21 October 2015 11: 24 New
        0
        Libya, Syria, Turkey, Israel.
    3. vodolaz
      vodolaz 21 October 2015 10: 55 New
      +1
      I look Egypt is specifically armed like that, and it’s very diverse, in terms of origin, weapons.
      1. Mister22408
        Mister22408 21 October 2015 11: 30 New
        +8
        Как говаривал мой военрук(бывший там советником) за арабов: "Сила - есть, воля - есть, силы воли - нет."
    4. perfect100
      perfect100 21 October 2015 12: 38 New
      +1
      But are the Egyptians going to sell the Mistral to Russia? Huh? ....... This is the first thing that occurred to me after I found out that Egypt buys Mistral and our helicopters to them ...
  2. Meckajiuhe
    Meckajiuhe 21 October 2015 10: 45 New
    +1
    The Egyptians bought the change from the Mistrals?)))
  3. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 21 October 2015 10: 45 New
    +2
    Странно что не у нас. Вроде и техника знакомая, и репутация у "Варшавянки" замечательная. Да и с западниками в наше время дел лучше не иметь. wink

    Quote: kote119
    Egypt clearly wants to dominate the region, it seems like the country is poor, and so much money has been let down for rearmament.

    The Saudis most likely pay for them. Or in a serious share.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 October 2015 10: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir
      It’s strange that we don’t.

      We have all the shipyards inundated with orders.
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 21 October 2015 11: 25 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimir
      Yes, and with Westerners in our time it’s better not to have affairs



      To whom ??? Russia or Egypt ???
  4. kote119
    kote119 21 October 2015 10: 47 New
    +1
    Egypt clearly wants to dominate the region, it seems like the country is poor, and so much money has been let down for rearmament.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 21 October 2015 16: 10 New
      0
      It is not even in Egypt. For example, the United States annually allocates several billion to Israel through the Ministry of Defense. And moreover, they are targeted. They have their own military developments, but are forced to take American weapons. And that is the story with Egypt. Both Arabs and the West help there. And most likely German. the submarines will be bought with EU money, and those Mistrals too. So the Egyptians do not see this money alive. hi
  5. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 21 October 2015 10: 48 New
    +3
    "The strategic goals that the Mistral fulfills are landing from sea to coast, the transfer of armed forces to other states, work as a joint headquarters for operations management, as well as operations to provide assistance to the affected countries."

    In my opinion it looked a little different:
  6. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 21 October 2015 10: 50 New
    +1
    Quote: Vladimir
    It’s strange that we don’t.


    Most likely in this direction in Russia the entire industry is loaded with its own orders.
  7. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 21 October 2015 10: 51 New
    +1
    It is strange that Egypt began to arming itself so actively on a maritime theme, and even more strange that he had money for all this. What would that mean? Appendix - cutaway boat.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 21 October 2015 11: 26 New
      0
      Quote: Corsair0304
      it is even more strange that he had money for all this.



      They have already said, and more than once - the majority of the payments for these orders are Saudis ...
  8. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 21 October 2015 10: 52 New
    0
    If a country does not think about its armed forces, then the country turns into 404 (we have already seen this somewhere).
  9. Maksus
    Maksus 21 October 2015 10: 52 New
    -3
    But will these expensive toys go straight into the hands of ISIS?
  10. vell.65
    vell.65 21 October 2015 10: 53 New
    +2
    Mistrals can be placed next to the pyramids and guided tours, again profit.
  11. mpzss
    mpzss 21 October 2015 10: 53 New
    0
    Yes, well, our tourists there will scatter money ... and they littered DEPL!
    1. just exp
      just exp 21 October 2015 11: 01 New
      +1
      not tourists. and the Saudis, they pay them the whole ball.
    2. Mister22408
      Mister22408 21 October 2015 11: 33 New
      +1
      The channel gives a lot more.
  12. roskot
    roskot 21 October 2015 11: 03 New
    +1
    Seriously, Egypt undertook to protect its resorts. That Mistral, now a submarine.
    And it will come to missile defense.
  13. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 21 October 2015 11: 05 New
    0
    Египет сделал антимайданный выбор, избрав Ас-Сиси. С этого момента страна, очевидно, разочаровалась в американском бумажном "зонтике", и в надежности США как партнера, решив крепить обороноспособность самостоятельно. Признак суверенности государства, по-моему.
  14. Engineer
    Engineer 21 October 2015 11: 06 New
    0
    Do Saudis arm Egypt? Are they getting ready for war with Israel again?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 21 October 2015 11: 32 New
      +5
      Offshore Egypt found a lot of gas. Platforms must be protected.
      And in the Red Sea, they want to establish their permanent presence.
      So that whoever blocked the Suez Canal, in case of war.
      Egypt has a good relationship with Israel. There are no territorial claims.
      If there again the Islamists come to power, then, of course, the attitude will change dramatically.
      Egypt has potential adversaries: Ethiopia and Libya.
      They have a conflict with Ethiopia over the construction of dams on
      Upper Nile. And in Libya - the Islamists who muddied the border.
  15. made13
    made13 21 October 2015 11: 07 New
    +1
    The construction speed is just cosmic - 1 year.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 21 October 2015 11: 25 New
      0
      Quote: made13
      The construction speed is just cosmic - 1 year.

      Yeah. The Kiel shipyard steers ...
      Novorossiysk: bookmark-20.08.2010/28.11.2013/17.09.2014, descent-XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, in operation-XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
      Stary Oskol: 17.08.2012-28.08.2014-03.07.2015
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 21 October 2015 11: 27 New
      +1
      Nothing of space. In 70-80 in the USSR, the rocket carrier 667 projects were completed in a year. Before the revolution, destroyers like Novik riveted in 12-15 months.
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 21 October 2015 12: 09 New
        0
        Quote: Amurets
        .A before the revolution


        Quote: Amurets
        destroyers


        дык гамбургский Blohm & Voss в войну "семерки" Дёницу, бывало, и за меньшее время лепил. laughing And U-4712 type XXIII in general: tab 03.01.1945/01.03.1945/XNUMX, launching XNUMX.
        historical retrospectives are useless here, I think)
  16. V.ic
    V.ic 21 October 2015 11: 11 New
    0
    "Могучей" морской державой становится АРЕ однако. Израиль наверное напугать хотят?
  17. veksha50
    veksha50 21 October 2015 11: 22 New
    +2
    "Египет покупает в ФРГ четыре подлодки"...

    Interesting girls are dancing ... If you also take into account the fact that behind the naval purchases of Egypt, Saudi Arabia is behind the financial wall-support ...

    It seems that the SA, under the guise of the Egyptian flag, is trying to create its own navy ...

    And with the Saudis because of Syria (and not only), we have tension ...

    The Egyptians bought the mains, and now yesterday or the day before yesterday turned to Russia for the supply of equipment (in the case it was removed then before purchase ???) ...

    In addition, a contract has been signed for a large batch of offshore spacecraft ... And again it will pay the CA ...

    A strange situation ... In that region, another big mess is being prepared ...
  18. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 21 October 2015 11: 38 New
    +2
    Mistrals, submarines! Yes, Egypt is a rich country!
    Who are they going to fight with!
    Oh, they still wait for the next orange revolution.
    Or decided to warrior please? Buy them new toys!
    It is necessary to invest in the country in the people. Housing, healthcare, roads, food, water, energy - there are problems with almost everything in Egypt.
    And they cheated for something incomprehensibly on what! )))
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 21 October 2015 15: 00 New
      0
      Their cash is not a dime.
      But they gave permission to foreign companies
      for exploration of all minerals throughout the country
      with guarantees of profits. And they already found something.
      Under this case (foreign investment) they are given
      loans. Well, the Saudis, the emirates give them money.
      Apparently hoping that in difficult times the Arabs of Egypt
      will help the Gulf Arabs against the Persians.
  19. Wolka
    Wolka 21 October 2015 11: 44 New
    0
    I see the Syrian war great boosted the arms race in the Middle East, if Egypt has money, let it buy if there is a desire, the alignment of forces in the region is changing, apparently everyone wants to be at the helm ...
  20. gridasov
    gridasov 21 October 2015 11: 47 New
    +1
    The Egyptians have a hidden problem. Buying high-tech weapons from different countries, they come in contact with various scientific and technological approaches. This carries such important negative aspects, as such, that they can introduce imbalance in the capabilities of the combat use of various weapons. In other words, for this position of the Egyptian military it is necessary to create new technologies for combining weapons from various centers of its production.
  21. satelit24
    satelit24 21 October 2015 12: 29 New
    +1
    they will all unite (and the fleet will come in handy) when they remember that Israel is at their side am
  22. pts-m
    pts-m 21 October 2015 13: 05 New
    0
    the Egyptians are starting a new direction in the tourism industry. Therefore, they buy thought and death in Germany. There will be no end to tourists, just let them ride and steer. Everything else is only in the application, that is, in reptiles.
  23. TIO1969
    TIO1969 21 October 2015 16: 10 New
    0
    It must be said that not only Saudi Arabia finances the purchase of weapons by Egypt. The UAE is also participating in this project. Think of the same Rafale contract.
    In general, Egypt forms a powerful and mobile army. What are the internal trends and the role of the Saudis and the UAE in this construction is difficult to predict. But obviously, the Egyptian leadership knows that there are probably no public agreements on what the global goals are.
  24. andron72
    andron72 21 October 2015 19: 02 New
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    our people know about these goals laughing