Egypt buys four submarines in Germany

Egypt ordered from Germany 4 diesel-electric submarines of the Type 209 project, as expected, the first submarine will be included fleet at the end of 2016, reports RIA News the message of the commander-in-chief of the Egyptian Navy, Munir Rabia.

“Acceptance of the first Type 209 submarine of the four ordered in Germany will take place at the end of 2016 of the year”- Rabia told reporters.

According to him, "at the moment, Egyptian sailors are undergoing special training in Germany on the further exploitation of these submarines."

The commander also told about the conclusion of a contract with France for the supply of more 4-frigates. Three of them will be built on the territory of Egypt.

Rabia answered the questions of journalists about the appointment of the recently acquired “Mistrals” from France: "The strategic goals that the Mistral fulfills are landing from sea to coast, the transfer of armed forces to other states, work as a joint headquarters for operations management, as well as operations to provide assistance to the affected countries."

Comments

[Alex_Rarog]

Oh, you shouldn’t be fooled by the French))) they are not reliable tips)

[Air Force captain]

Somehow abruptly, Egypt begins to gain momentum in armament ... Given the fact that they are all bought by Salafists (Saudis) .. to put it mildly - I do not like it ... until the heap of the Russian Defense Ministry they were going to understaff

[Hello]

Quote: Captain Air Force

Somehow abruptly, Egypt begins to gain momentum in armament ... Given the fact that they are all bought by Salafists (Saudis) .. to put it mildly - I do not like it ... until the heap of the Russian Defense Ministry they were going to understaff

The Saudis are interested in a counterweight to Iran, nothing comes out of their army, and they are arming Egypt.
Do not quite understand what prevents Russia from strong Egypt?

[Eugene-Eugene]

Do not quite understand what prevents Russia from strong Egypt?

The people are trying to understand the "Egypt-Saudis" link, hence some questions arise.

If Egypt fights in the Middle East, nothing good comes of it: it has a collapsing North Africa with weakened or destroyed regimes (except Algeria) and 100 has no geopolitical competitors per square meter. Apparently, the Saudis and took his army to provide, to send it in the right direction to them, that is, to the Middle East and thereby divert Egypt from North Africa. But, on the other hand, the British also pumped some people on the threshold of the 2MW, and then hid in basements.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Eugene-Eugene

But, on the other hand, the British also pumped some up on the threshold of WW2, and then hid in the basements.

and then Rommel came and debased everything ...

[zadorin1974]

It is better to communicate with 10 small armies (there is a chance that they will quarrel). With the Arabs, the brain dries up with an increase in strength and begins to pull them on stupid actions (At one time, Turkey got tired of it all.)

[avt]

Quote: Hello

Do not quite understand what prevents Russia from strong Egypt?

Yes, nothing.

Quote: Hello

The Saudis are interested in a counterweight to Iran, nothing comes out of their army, and they are arming Egypt.

Well, if they want to put them in Yemen .... But the local men in skirts already at the time of Nasser put an enema to the Egyptian corps with gramophone needles on a scipedar, even though Nykyt packed them with our weapons to build socialism.

Quote: Eugene-Eugene

The people are trying to understand the "Egypt-Saudis" link, hence some questions arise.

What is there to understand? It’s all that’s needed. Earlier, Egyptian migrant workers at Muammor worked in Libya, while the local jamaherians worked. I just didn’t understand what they clung to in the 209s? Like Israel? Could and order 212/214 - to walk, so to walk, especially since the Saudis pay.

[wk]

Quote: Air Force Captain

Salafis (Saudis) ..

the Saudis are not Salafis, but Wahhabis! ..... and how do you get information that the SA is providing military assistance to the Egyptian regime ?, where radical Islam is being severely persecuted.

[Slobber]

the Saudis are not Salafis, but Wahhabis!

Well kah, well kah, but how are the Salafis different from the Wahhabis?

[andj61]

Quote: wk

Quote: Air Force Captain

Salafis (Saudis) ..

the Saudis are not Salafis, but Wahhabis! ..... and how do you get information that the SA is providing military assistance to the Egyptian regime ?, where radical Islam is being severely persecuted.

In fact, if we consider these religious movements in a complex, the difference is small.

To understand the difference between today's Salafism and Wahhabism, it must be borne in mind that among the Salafists themselves there are various currents. One of them is the purists, who preach the true, from their point of view, Islam, do not pursue any political goals and reject violence. Wahhabis, as a rule, can only be assigned to the first group of Salafists. The obvious difference between the two is that the Wahhabis maintain the loyalty of the royal al-Saud dynasty. Salafis, however, seek to create a purely Islamic state without the secular power inherent in the kingdom. Http://www.dw.com/en/%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BC-%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1% 85% D1% 85% D0% B0% D0
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Oddly enough, Egypt arms itself with the money of the Saudis - and buys planes, and Mistrals, and submarines. In response, Egypt assists the SA in its war in Yemen.

[Hello]

Quote: wk

and where did you get the information that the CA is providing military assistance to the regime of Egypt ?,

The Saudis do not hide their help to Egypt, they really do not like the Muslim brothers whom Qatar sponsors.

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

Mistrals, submarines, one question why do they need them?

[Maxom75]

The Saudis are preparing a counterweight to Iran. They want Egypt to keep Suez untouchable.

[V.ic]

Quote: Maxom75

counterbalance to Iran. They want Egypt to keep Suez untouchable.

Where is Iran and where is Suez ...

[bulvas]

Quote: V.ic

Quote: Maxom75

counterbalance to Iran. They want Egypt to keep Suez untouchable.

Where is Iran and where is Suez ...

Iran can enter the world only through Suez

Oil to be transported to Europe - only through Suez

[atalef]

Quote: bulvas

Quote: V.ic

Quote: Maxom75

counterbalance to Iran. They want Egypt to keep Suez untouchable.

Where is Iran and where is Suez ...

Iran can enter the world only through Suez

Oil to be transported to Europe - only through Suez

Strange, but something else is visible on the map.

[bulvas]

Quote: atalef

Quote: bulvas

Quote: V.ic

Quote: Maxom75

counterbalance to Iran. They want Egypt to keep Suez untouchable.

Where is Iran and where is Suez ...

Iran can enter the world only through Suez

Oil to be transported to Europe - only through Suez

Strange, but something else is visible on the map.

Into the world - meaning the West, for example, the sea route to the coast of Gaza or Syria

As for oil to Europe -
- what is seen on the map? Way around Africa?

[atalef]

Quote: bulvas

Quote: atalef

Quote: bulvas

Quote: V.ic

Quote: Maxom75

counterbalance to Iran. They want Egypt to keep Suez untouchable.

Where is Iran and where is Suez ...

Iran can enter the world only through Suez

Oil to be transported to Europe - only through Suez

Strange, but something else is visible on the map.

Into the world - meaning the West, for example, the sea route to the coast of Gaza or Syria
о
As for oil to Europe -
- what is seen on the map? Way around Africa?

You know, you used the word - only - it doesn’t mean options in Russian, then, but what Iran sells oil to Gaza and Syria? - Are these his main buyers here?
Then, and with what exit (free) of Iran - to the Indian Ocean - is this not an exit to the world? Isn't the way around Africa to Europe?
I do not want to remind you about the purchase of oil and the fact that tankers do not have state. Supplies of oil transported by them, Iran can so easily (as is often done) sell oil in the bulk port, and the tanker carrying it is not Iranian, and oil is no longer his. How about this?

[bulvas]

Quote: atalef

How about this?

If I had the illusion that atalef knows more than others or sees farther than others, or it seemed that atalef had interesting thoughts,
- now it is clear that you don’t feed atalef with bread (or pita with hummus, whichever you prefer), let’s argue on business or without business - it does not matter

[atalef]

Quote: bulvas

Quote: atalef

How about this?

If I had the illusion that atalef knows more than others or sees farther than others, or it seemed that atalef had interesting thoughts,
- now it is clear that you don’t feed atalef with bread (or pita with hummus, whichever you prefer), let’s argue on business or without business - it does not matter

Disappointments are a part of life, with respect.
Yes, re-read your post and maybe decide otherwise

[Vend]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Mistrals, submarines, one question why do they need them?

If you want to prevent mattresses from reaching you, you have to be strong. Then the allies will help to defend against the United States.

[A-Sim]

I already asked. Our Israeli forum users assured that they know well - why.

[The boat]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Mistrals, submarines, one question why do they need them?

Rabia replied: “The strategic objectives of the Mistral are landing from sea to coast, transfer of armed forces to other states(C)
no more, no less)

[Tra-ta-ta]

one question why do they need them?
Go to YouTube on the page of E. Satanovsky:
Egypt will face severe dehydration when the construction of the "dam" in the South is completed.

[veksha50]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Mistrals, submarines, one question why do they need them?

Most likely, it was not for them specifically, but for the Saudis ... They are behind Egypt ...

[Tuzik]

Libya, Syria, Turkey, Israel.

[vodolaz]

I look Egypt is specifically armed like that, and it’s very diverse, in terms of origin, weapons.

[Mister22408]

As my military instructor (who was an adviser there) used to say for the Arabs: "Strength is there, will is there, will power is not."

[perfect100]

But are the Egyptians going to sell the Mistral to Russia? Huh? ....... This is the first thing that occurred to me after I found out that Egypt buys Mistral and our helicopters to them ...

[Meckajiuhe]

The Egyptians bought the change from the Mistrals?)))

[Vladimyrych]

It is strange that it is not with us. It seems that the technique is familiar, and the reputation of Varshavyanka is wonderful. Yes, and with Westerners in our time it is better not to have business.

Quote: kote119

Egypt clearly wants to dominate the region, it seems like the country is poor, and so much money has been let down for rearmament.

The Saudis most likely pay for them. Or in a serious share.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Vladimir

It’s strange that we don’t.

We have all the shipyards inundated with orders.

[veksha50]

Quote: Vladimir

Yes, and with Westerners in our time it’s better not to have affairs

To whom ??? Russia or Egypt ???

[kote119]

Egypt clearly wants to dominate the region, it seems like the country is poor, and so much money has been let down for rearmament.

[Kasym]

It is not even in Egypt. For example, the United States annually allocates several billion to Israel through the Ministry of Defense. And moreover, they are targeted. They have their own military developments, but are forced to take American weapons. And that is the story with Egypt. Both Arabs and the West help there. And most likely German. the submarines will be bought with EU money, and those Mistrals too. So the Egyptians do not see this money alive.

[Corsair0304]

"The strategic goals that the Mistral fulfills are landing from sea to coast, the transfer of armed forces to other states, work as a joint headquarters for operations management, as well as operations to provide assistance to the affected countries."

In my opinion it looked a little different:

[A1L9E4K9S]

Quote: Vladimir

It’s strange that we don’t.

Most likely in this direction in Russia the entire industry is loaded with its own orders.

[Corsair0304]

It is strange that Egypt began to arming itself so actively on a maritime theme, and even more strange that he had money for all this. What would that mean? Appendix - cutaway boat.

[veksha50]

Quote: Corsair0304

it is even more strange that he had money for all this.

They have already said, and more than once - the majority of the payments for these orders are Saudis ...

[Sergey-72]

If a country does not think about its armed forces, then the country turns into 404 (we have already seen this somewhere).

[Maksus]

But will these expensive toys go straight into the hands of ISIS?

[vell.65]

Mistrals can be placed next to the pyramids and guided tours, again profit.

[mpzss]

Yes, well, our tourists there will scatter money ... and they littered DEPL!

[just exp]

not tourists. and the Saudis, they pay them the whole ball.

[Mister22408]

The channel gives a lot more.

[roskot]

Seriously, Egypt undertook to protect its resorts. That Mistral, now a submarine.
And it will come to missile defense.

[Gormenghast]

Egypt made an anti-Maid choice by electing Al-Sisi. From that moment on, the country, obviously, became disillusioned with the American paper "umbrella", and with the reliability of the United States as a partner, having decided to strengthen its defenses on its own. A sign of the state's sovereignty, in my opinion.

[Engineer]

Do Saudis arm Egypt? Are they getting ready for war with Israel again?

[voyaka uh]

Offshore Egypt found a lot of gas. Platforms must be protected.
And in the Red Sea, they want to establish their permanent presence.
So that whoever blocked the Suez Canal, in case of war.
Egypt has a good relationship with Israel. There are no territorial claims.
If there again the Islamists come to power, then, of course, the attitude will change dramatically.
Egypt has potential adversaries: Ethiopia and Libya.
They have a conflict with Ethiopia over the construction of dams on
Upper Nile. And in Libya - the Islamists who muddied the border.

[made13]

The construction speed is just cosmic - 1 year.

[The boat]

Quote: made13

The construction speed is just cosmic - 1 year.

Yeah. The Kiel shipyard steers ...
Novorossiysk: bookmark-20.08.2010/28.11.2013/17.09.2014, descent-XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, in operation-XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
Stary Oskol: 17.08.2012-28.08.2014-03.07.2015

[Amurets]

Nothing of space. In 70-80 in the USSR, the rocket carrier 667 projects were completed in a year. Before the revolution, destroyers like Novik riveted in 12-15 months.

[The boat]

Quote: Amurets

.A before the revolution

Quote: Amurets

destroyers

Duc Hamburg Blohm & Voss in the war of the "seven" Dönitz, it happened, and in less time sculpted. And U-4712 type XXIII in general: tab 03.01.1945/01.03.1945/XNUMX, launching XNUMX.
historical retrospectives are useless here, I think)

[V.ic]

However, Egypt becomes a "mighty" sea power. Israel probably want to scare?

[veksha50]

"Egypt buys four submarines from Germany" ...

Interesting girls are dancing ... If you also take into account the fact that behind the naval purchases of Egypt, Saudi Arabia is behind the financial wall-support ...

It seems that the SA, under the guise of the Egyptian flag, is trying to create its own navy ...

And with the Saudis because of Syria (and not only), we have tension ...

The Egyptians bought the mains, and now yesterday or the day before yesterday turned to Russia for the supply of equipment (in the case it was removed then before purchase ???) ...

In addition, a contract has been signed for a large batch of offshore spacecraft ... And again it will pay the CA ...

A strange situation ... In that region, another big mess is being prepared ...

[Dan Slav]

Mistrals, submarines! Yes, Egypt is a rich country!
Who are they going to fight with!
Oh, they still wait for the next orange revolution.
Or decided to warrior please? Buy them new toys!
It is necessary to invest in the country in the people. Housing, healthcare, roads, food, water, energy - there are problems with almost everything in Egypt.
And they cheated for something incomprehensibly on what! )))

[voyaka uh]

Their cash is not a dime.
But they gave permission to foreign companies
for exploration of all minerals throughout the country
with guarantees of profits. And they already found something.
Under this case (foreign investment) they are given
loans. Well, the Saudis, the emirates give them money.
Apparently hoping that in difficult times the Arabs of Egypt
will help the Gulf Arabs against the Persians.

[Wolka]

I see the Syrian war great boosted the arms race in the Middle East, if Egypt has money, let it buy if there is a desire, the alignment of forces in the region is changing, apparently everyone wants to be at the helm ...

[gridasov]

The Egyptians have a hidden problem. Buying high-tech weapons from different countries, they come in contact with various scientific and technological approaches. This carries such important negative aspects, as such, that they can introduce imbalance in the capabilities of the combat use of various weapons. In other words, for this position of the Egyptian military it is necessary to create new technologies for combining weapons from various centers of its production.

[satellite24]

they will all unite (and the fleet will come in handy) when they remember that Israel is at their side

[pts-m]

the Egyptians are starting a new direction in the tourism industry. Therefore, they buy thought and death in Germany. There will be no end to tourists, just let them ride and steer. Everything else is only in the application, that is, in reptiles.

[TIO1969]

It must be said that not only Saudi Arabia finances the purchase of weapons by Egypt. The UAE is also participating in this project. Think of the same Rafale contract.
In general, Egypt forms a powerful and mobile army. What are the internal trends and the role of the Saudis and the UAE in this construction is difficult to predict. But obviously, the Egyptian leadership knows that there are probably no public agreements on what the global goals are.

[andron72]

our people know about these goals