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RT: “Caliber” proved the worthlessness of the expensive US missile defense system

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Demonstration of high-precision Russian capabilities weapons in Syria, it showed the futility of Washington’s multibillion-dollar plans to deploy a missile defense system in Europe, said RT analyst Pepe Escobar. His words leads RIA News.




"Obviously, not only that the Russian campaign in Syria ruined the US plans to create a" Greater Middle East ", but also that the Pentagon did not foresee such a turn and is horrified by the inevitable consequences," writes Escobar.

Citing the words of the NATO commander in Europe that “Russia's very sophisticated missile defense capabilities are not directed against jihadists in Syria, but against something else,” he notes: “Breedlove cannot publicly admit that the launch of Caliber missiles from the Caspian Sea could be a signal to NATO. "

"Calibers", according to the analyst, have become a factor that changed the rules of the game.

"The missiles swept through the territory of Iran and Iraq at a height of no more than 100 meters at a speed exceeding the speed of American UAVs, which proves the futility of deploying American missiles in Eastern Europe, allegedly directed against the" Iranian threat. "He writes.

Escobar also notes that “the alliance is frightened by the fact that its advanced software C4i (from English. command, control, communications, computer, intelligence - command, control, communications, computer, intelligence) showed complete failure to Russian technology in Syria and southern Turkey. "

“Essentially, NATO has become easy prey,” the analyst concludes.
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  1. prabiz
    prabiz 21 October 2015 09: 48 New
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    We still have a lot of evidence of its uselessness!
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 21 October 2015 09: 52 New
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      That's what the life-giving caliber does, cools too hot heads.
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 21 October 2015 09: 55 New
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        Life-giving caliber
        - laughing
        Finally, they revealed to the world our CALIBER (thick and long) and showed which Americans are dull!
        Maybe it will reach the rest of the USA! Who is who! drinks
        1. Ross_ulair
          Ross_ulair 21 October 2015 10: 02 New
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          Quote: Baikonur
          Finally revealed to the world and showed what ameripeda - Dull!


          But we said ... But we warned ...
          They did not believe us that all of their missile defense was an expensive toy and nothing more.

          Хотя, если рассматривать ПРО как системы "земля-земля" тут логика штатовцев железная: держать под прицелом РФ, при этом рискуя только своими европейскими "партнерами"
          1. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 21 October 2015 10: 41 New
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            “Essentially, NATO has become easy prey,” the analyst concludes.

            Well easy, not easy. Simply, this significantly expands the range of combat capabilities for the Russian Armed Forces.

            The missile defense system is a useful system. Take at least the SM-6 missile (RIM-174 SM-6 ERAM), which will begin to be adopted from 2016, its combat capabilities include the defeat of low-flying targets, including. Well, the defeat of stealth targets at long distances.
            And the notorious AN / SPY-1 Aegis, which promises to be in Europe, knows how to shoot down a variety of goals. And taking into account bringing to mind the Standard rocket, its capabilities will only increase.

            It is clear that they cannot shoot down all Russian missiles (at least for now), but to say that NATO is an easy target, I think this is a mistake.
            1. alauda1038
              alauda1038 21 October 2015 11: 26 New
              +8
              you don’t take into account a number of factors of the mattress system, they are far from perfect and fragmented, which means there are gaps, only mattresses or the British are allowed to missile defense and no one means everything in the missile defense system is hurt and there are obvious fears of elementary sabotage or wrecking, in Eastern Europe a small number of people who are ready to fight with America (there are quite a lot of them in the Donbas all over Europe, which means that people are gaining real combat experience for guerrilla warfare) and the experience gained they will be ready to use puff cake against the Americans, part of the European armies is more decorative than the real ones in the Baltics, some armies have a Russian-minded contingent and this is not only Eastern Europe, so where it’s subtly torn
            2. umah
              umah 21 October 2015 11: 34 New
              +7
              Take at least the SM-6 missile (RIM-174 SM-6 ERAM), which will begin to be in service since the 2016 of the year, its combat capabilities include the defeat of low-flying targets, including

              A missile defense system is a very expensive thing. If to shoot down vigorous warheads with this missile, then normal, the launch price will correspond to the downed target. And if you shoot on cruise missiles, then it’s like a gold bar to support a door in a barn, in principle it is acceptable, but not rational.
              1. Photon
                Photon 21 October 2015 11: 42 New
                +6
                Unfortunately, gauges are also not three pennies
                1. Samaritan
                  Samaritan 21 October 2015 12: 35 New
                  +5
                  Ну да есть и "земной" вариант, подешевле wink :))
                2. Xsanchez
                  Xsanchez 23 October 2015 12: 05 New
                  +2
                  Tomahawks were also expensive, but after 2 thousand, the price is reduced. Well, etc.
                  I am sure Caliber will also fall in price over time.
                  1. nemets
                    nemets 24 October 2015 09: 12 New
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                    The cost reduction of the tomahawks was due to the reduction in mass - both the warhead and the installation of a lighter engine, that is, the flight distance was reduced. Doubtful cheaper, isn’t it?
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                4. red_october
                  red_october 23 October 2015 15: 46 New
                  +1
                  well, at least there is confidence that the money that was spent on these specific 26 missiles is no longer stolen
              2. Samaritan
                Samaritan 21 October 2015 12: 32 New
                +3
                Well, for example, the cost of supplying 9 batteries (4 launchers per battery) of the Patriot systems can reach up to $ 9 billion (includes: 36 launchers of the Patriot launcher PAC-3 (9 launchers of 4 launchers), 288 launchers of the Patriot "PAC-3, 216 missiles with advanced guidance GEM-T, 10 sets of radars with phased array, 10 control stations capture target)
                In Europe, it is installed! True, she will not bring down Kolibra :)
                1. remy
                  remy 21 October 2015 14: 58 New
                  +2
                  I agree. RAS-3 has a lower limit of 60 meters. and the scribe can go to 15 gauge.
            3. Samaritan
              Samaritan 21 October 2015 12: 39 New
              +3
              Vladislav, this is not the point, it is clear that the United States has something to bring down hummingbirds ... They simply deliver to Europe a Patriot, which is not intended for such purposes !!!
              So right now, all our partners in the EU will begin to ask for a complete missile defense, air defense !!!
            4. g1v2
              g1v2 21 October 2015 14: 01 New
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              Again, people are fond of. Straight swing - from all gone to all tear. Volley from the Caspian Sea is of course a very serious step, which made the mattresses to burn, but he does not make anyone easy prey. Our Navy is just getting in shape and before 2020 its capabilities will be much weaker than necessary. By 2020, a significant part of the submarine will be modernized, both apple and diesel, more than 20 ships of the second rank will be built, more than a dozen of the third, squids will be replaced by boreas, up to 5 ash trees will be built and at least 5 new ones will be delivered. Plus, in the near future, the auxiliary fleet will be in order. After modernization, Nakhimov will replace Petya, and Ustinov and Moscow will undergo modernization. However, even then we will not tear the states with ease - the fleet will just bounce back, but it will only increase in quality by 2025, when all modernizations are over and the fleet will begin to receive the first udk and leader. The development of the fleet is a matter of years and is not worth drooling over every success or failure. The process is underway, the fleet is being restored to normal, and this is the main thing.
              1. nemets
                nemets 24 October 2015 09: 16 New
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                зачем строить дорогостоящие авианосцы,которые можно утопить с помощью того же "калибра" находясь на приличном расстоянии.лучше вложиться в апл-ы, и легкие ракетоносцы ,которые на порядок сложнее уничьтожить.
          2. bear-hn
            bear-hn 23 October 2015 16: 26 New
            +1
            Вспомните программу стелс и наши "древнию" систему наведения в метровом диапазоне....
        2. Roman1970
          Roman1970 21 October 2015 10: 10 New
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          Quote: Baikonur
          Finally revealed to the world and showed what ameripeda - Dull!
          Maybe it will reach the rest of the USA! Who is who! drinks

          Я бы не был столь категоричным. В любом случае у США есть аналитики и военные эксперты, которые прекрасно и до пресловутого запуска ракет понимали все возможности нашего оружия, а значит, были в курсе первые лица государства, в том числе Обама. Тут другое. Вся бодяга с развёртыванием систем ПРО была затеяна ради поддержания должного уровня военных расходов, ну, а как следствие, ради формирования "нужного" общественного мнения. Как-то так...
          1. iConst
            iConst 21 October 2015 10: 22 New
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            Quote: Roman1970
            I would not be so categorical. In any case, the United States has analysts and military experts who perfectly and before the notorious launch of missiles understood all the capabilities of our weapons
            - I agree. Shapkozakidatelstvo to good will not bring.

            Хотя, на мой взгляд, как это не парадоксально звучит, имея адекватные системы воевать с противником имеющим высокотехнологичное оружие "легче", чем с упоротым сбродом вооруженным автоматом и РПГ.

            I will explain:
            This thought came to me from my friend - martial artist.
            Он как-то сказал - мне проще сражаться с подготовленным противником, чем с "дворовым" бойцом.
            From the first I know what to expect, from the second - no.
            1. Mikhail3
              Mikhail3 21 October 2015 13: 00 New
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              Quote: iConst
              Quote: Roman1970
              I would not be so categorical. In any case, the United States has analysts and military experts who perfectly and before the notorious launch of missiles understood all the capabilities of our weapons
              - I agree. Shapkozakidatelstvo to good will not bring.

              Хотя, на мой взгляд, как это не парадоксально звучит, имея адекватные системы воевать с противником имеющим высокотехнологичное оружие "легче", чем с упоротым сбродом вооруженным автоматом и РПГ.

              I will explain:
              This thought came to me from my friend - martial artist.
              Он как-то сказал - мне проще сражаться с подготовленным противником, чем с "дворовым" бойцом.
              From the first I know what to expect, from the second - no.

              Все верно. Поэтому если вы не умеете оценить уровень противника (прикольный вообще то "мастер единоборств", меня за неумение оценить уровень... ладно, это другая история) то никакой драки с ним допускать нельзя. Необходимо ввязать ему самым мощным, что у вас есть, и надеяться что он будет не в состоянии ответить. Или не лезть тогда, а как то договориться!
          2. Vita vko
            Vita vko 21 October 2015 10: 25 New
            +4
            Quote: Roman1970
            analysts and military experts

            they are everywhere, but unfortunately few of them really affect politics. The launch of the Caliber against terrorists can be compared with the effect of the US bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on militaristic Japan. Then, military experts also knew that work was underway on nuclear weapons, but the political consequences came only after its use.
            1. region58
              region58 21 October 2015 10: 39 New
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              Quote: Vita VKO
              they are everywhere, but unfortunately few of them really affect politics

              Probably all the same, the army is one of the tools with which you can achieve the desired goal. Having a strong army can lead an independent policy. And politics without an army and without an economy is ordinary balabolstvo ... who will listen to you then.
            2. veksha50
              veksha50 21 October 2015 11: 00 New
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              Quote: Vita VKO
              The launch of the Caliber against terrorists can be compared with the effect of the US bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on militaristic Japan.



              Mdaaaaa ... Wow comparison ...

              В случае бомбардировки Хиросимы и Нагасаки (которые, по существу, в исходе войны ничего уже не меняли) было дано предупреждение СССР, чтобы оно дальше никуда "не совалось", и показан кулак...

              Now Russia, having struck the wild rabble with expensive high-precision weapons on the wild rabble (and not against civilized cities with a population of many thousands !!!), has shown its ability to counter the US and NATO ...

              PS The death toll in Hiroshima is about 166 thousand people, in Nagasaki - about 80 thousand people ... Civilians, not militants killed by Caliber in Syria !!!
              1. Vita vko
                Vita vko 21 October 2015 13: 09 New
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                Quote: veksha50
                Civilians, not militants destroyed by Caliber in Syria !!!

                If you calculate the number of civilians killed during the US and NATO operations in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and other countries, the figure will be an order of magnitude larger. As soon as the power of $ in international politics is over, humanity will immediately evaluate these war crimes. Hirasima and Nagasaki were just the first on the list of NATO's system of mass intimidation. And after Caliber strikes, a system failure occurred in this NATO system. It came to be understood that sanctions did not tear the Russian economy, but quite the contrary, healed it, and politics became much more independent and unpredictable. Hence the panic, the change of priorities, etc. Therefore, the political effect is comparable to the first use of a nuclear bomb.
                1. veksha50
                  veksha50 21 October 2015 23: 40 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Vita VKO
                  Therefore, the political effect is comparable to the first use of a nuclear bomb.



                  Well, if only from this point of view ... But it was just a comparison that shocked ... It is immediately perceived as if Russia trembled in the Syrian desert and destroyed about 200 thousand civilians ...
            3. Oman 47
              Oman 47 21 October 2015 13: 47 New
              +2
              And I was straightforward from a near coincidence: RT analyst (Pablo) Escobar! ... belay
              First thought: the drug lord went to military analysts! Guy - deep in the subject, hehe!
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          4. Corsair
            Corsair 21 October 2015 10: 48 New
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            Quote: Roman1970
            Вся бодяга с развёртыванием систем ПРО была затеяна ради поддержания должного уровня военных расходов, ну, а как следствие, ради формирования "нужного" общественного мнения. Как-то так...

            belay I don’t think that just for this, most likely the missile defense systems installed in the Europope are not a pure missile defense system, but have more prosaic goals - specifically unification for launching missiles at ground targets in Russia, including launching missiles with nuclear warheads. The missiles are apparently ready or at the completion stage.
            And shouting about missile defense is just a screen for the media and local people. It would also be nice for us to envisage the possibility of launching S-300-400-500 systems of Earth-to-Earth missiles with various warheads.
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 21 October 2015 11: 09 New
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              Quote: Corsair
              most likely the missile defense systems installed in europope are not a pure missile defense system, but have more prosaic goals — specifically unification for launching missiles at ground targets in Russia, including launching missiles with nuclear warheads. The missiles are apparently ready or at the completion stage.

              But here, in principle, nothing needs to be completed - the cells in which the missile defense systems are located are standard (for amers this is an old trend), which means that ordinary shock missiles can theoretically be placed in them.
              Our military. By the way, such concerns have been voiced for a very long time, and by the way this is the main reason why we are against the deployment of missile defense in Europe, and not just because of the possibility of intercepting our ICBMs.
            2. Varyag_1973
              Varyag_1973 21 October 2015 11: 33 New
              +2
              For Corsair.
              "Неплохо было бы и нам предусмотреть возможность пуска из систем С-300-400-500 ракет Земля-Земля с различной БЧ."

              А зачем такие сложности?! Для этих целей есть "Искандер", а теперь вот еще и "Калибр"! Уничтожение стационарных систем - это и есть их прямая задача! Зачем переделывать системы ПВО для нанесения ударов по земле?! Они изначально создавались для другого!
          5. Col.
            Col. 21 October 2015 10: 51 New
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            Quote: Roman1970
            I would not be so categorical.


            Добавлю. Автор статьи продемонстрировал элементарное незнание сути вопроса. Это называется "слышал звон...". Американская система ПРО предназначена для защиты от BALLISTIC ROCKETS!
            А обыватели и диванные "специалисты" как дети радуются тому, что WINGED ROCKETS "доказали её бесполезность". Не путайте кузькин хрен с сосиской, ребята! Это, как говорят в Одессе, - две большие разницы!
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 21 October 2015 11: 07 New
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              Quote: Colonel
              А обыватели как дети радуются тому, что КРЫЛАТЫЕ РАКЕТЫ "доказали её бесполезность". Не путайте кузькин хрен с сосиской, ребята! Это, как говорят в Одессе, - две большие разницы!

              Тут, видимо, просто не так перевели/передали слова эксперта - скорее всего имеется ввиду. что ракеты аля "колибр" смогут легко раздолбить американскую систему ПРО в Европе, да и фактически нивелируют американскую стратегию "молниеносного глобального удара" - ведь и мы теперь ответить можем))
              1. Kalmar
                Kalmar 21 October 2015 11: 34 New
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                фактически нивелируют американскую стратегию "молниеносного глобального удара" - ведь и мы теперь ответить можем))

                Кому ответить? Мы пока что можем только бахнуть по нескольким объектам американской военщины в Европе. Причем именно по нескольким: нет у нас достаточного количества ракет и носителей, чтобы всей Европе грозить. Территории США "Калибры" ни сейчас, ни в ближайшем будущем не угрожают.

                "Эксперт", в общем, раздувает дешевую сенсацию: до "бесполезности ПРО", легкого ее раздалбывания и прочего нивелирования еще очень и очень далеко.
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 21 October 2015 11: 44 New
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                  Quote: Kalmar
                  Who to answer? For the time being, we can only plop around several objects of the American military in Europe. And for just a few: we do not have enough rockets and carriers to threaten all of Europe.

                  How to say, the production of cruise missiles is now proceeding at a very good pace, with launchers, yes, it’s not very good yet, but here the situation is fixable, but as for whom to answer, there’s no need to hammer on the territory of the USA, it’s necessary to hit their ships to launch lionfish for us (they are their main carriers of KR).
                  Quote: Kalmar
                  Территории США "Калибры" ни сейчас, ни в ближайшем будущем не угрожают.

                  Для "территории США" у нас есть, например, Х-101, запускаемая со стратегических бомбордировщиков.
                  1. Kalmar
                    Kalmar 21 October 2015 23: 16 New
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                    it’s not necessary to hammer across the territory of the USA - it is necessary to hit their ships, which will launch lionfish on us

                    It is necessary to hit the ships, but this does not give parity: it turns out that they can strike on our shores, but we can only wave it off, strike back in the same volume - no.

                    Для "территории США" у нас есть, например, Х-101, запускаемая со стратегических бомбордировщиков.

                    Не спорю, Х-101 - аргумент весомый. Жаль, маловато их и ракетоносцев. Опять же, носители "Томагавков" могут почти постоянно пастись у наших границ, а вот Ту-160-е в районы пусков еще должны суметь долететь.

                    In other words, the United States and I will not succeed in an equivalent duel on the Kyrgyz Republic alone; in any case, we will have to connect ICBMs.
                    1. Albert1988
                      Albert1988 21 October 2015 23: 35 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Kalmar
                      It’s necessary to hit the ships, but this does not give parity: it turns out that they can strike on our shores, and we can only brush it off

                      In our current situation, at least brushing it off will already be good.
                      Quote: Kalmar
                      Не спорю, Х-101 - аргумент весомый. Жаль, маловато их и ракетоносцев. Опять же, носители "Томагавков" могут почти постоянно пастись у наших границ, а вот Ту-160-е в районы пусков еще должны суметь долететь.

                      The Tu-160 has a radius of 16000 km at subsonic speed, and 10000 km at supersonic, plus at least 5000 km radius of the X-101, so it will fly and shoot, otherwise why the Americans were so wary when we decided to produce swans again)))
                      Quote: Kalmar
                      In other words, an equal duel on the Kyrgyz Republic alone will not work with the USA,

                      The fact is that here we need to protect ourselves precisely and, first of all, to secure our military infrastructure - we’ll gouge their favorite destroyers with calibers - they, in turn, will not be able to hit us, which means we will have some time to make a decision.
                      And so, of course, you are right - you cannot rely on some CDs, the answer should be complex in any case.
                2. Mikhail3
                  Mikhail3 21 October 2015 13: 06 New
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                  Quote: Kalmar
                  "Эксперт", в общем, раздувает дешевую сенсацию: до "бесполезности ПРО", легкого ее раздалбывания и прочего нивелирования еще очень и очень далеко.

                  And think before you answer? The expert does not say anything about the strike on the United States. And he says that NATO is in a panic! The difference between the United States and its cannon fodder, bayonet grease, strategic field, you realize?
                  The United States promised them protection; all this NATO was created as an umbrella from us. They say we will rob with impunity, Russia will not be able to hit us ... And now it turns out - it can, and when it wants. The umbrella is full of holes. About this and the article. By the way, there is nothing fundamentally impossible to install a nuclear warhead on Caliber.
                  1. Kalmar
                    Kalmar 21 October 2015 23: 06 New
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                    And he says that NATO is in a panic!

                    Очень смешно. Кто там в панике? Польша и всякая прибалтийская шелупонь? Так они постоянно "в панике" уже лет десять точно. Такая у них роль - вопить о российской угрозе почем зря, чтобы амерские вояки под эти вопли себе дополнительных бюджетов могли выбивать.

                    NATO, in the end, is just a screen for the US Armed Forces, necessary to imitate collegiality in matters of forcing all Papuans to peace and democracy (like, it’s not America that aches them, but the whole civilized world in a single rush, etc.). Therefore, speaking of NATO, we primarily understand the United States. And while the United States is not in a panic, NATO will not be in it either (which cannot be said about individual members - see above).
              2. Col.
                Col. 21 October 2015 11: 35 New
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                Quote: Albert1988
                скорее всего имеется ввиду. что ракеты аля "колибр" смогут легко раздолбить американскую систему ПРО


                "Раздолбить" эту систему может и авиация, и артиллерия (если война уже идёт), и даже "террористы". Но ведь никто не будет утверждать, что, например, "штурмовая авиация доказала бесполезность дорогостоящей американской системы ПРО". lol В общем, статья из разряда ОБС (одна бабка сказала). Гнать таких "экспертов" надо...
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 21 October 2015 11: 51 New
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                  Quote: Colonel
                  "Раздолбить" эту систему может и авиация, и артиллерия (if war is already on)

                  Во первых те же "Искандеры" раздолбят её эффективнее. Во вторых жирным выделено главное большое такое и толстое ЕСЛИ... А если необходимо нанести что называется "первый удар"? Но даже не в этом суть - описанные вами средства могут уничтожить объекты на относительно небольшом удалении от границ, а вот КР простреливают всю Европу. Так что смысл слов "эксперта" может заключаться ещё и в том, что теперь Россия доказала, что у неё есть весьма дальнобойные средства, кроме МБР. Ясен пень, что они были и раньше, но большинство людей отличаются тем, что не верит, пока не увидит, учитывая многолетнюю пропаганду о "никчёмности России", в которую, похоже, уверовали и сами пропагандисты.
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              4. SIvan
                SIvan 21 October 2015 20: 07 New
                +1
                Quote: Albert1988
                Here, apparently, the expert’s words were simply not translated / conveyed - most likely it is meant. what ракеты аля "колибр" смогут легко раздолбить американскую систему ПРО в Европе, да и фактически нивелируют американскую стратегию "молниеносного глобального удара" - ведь и мы теперь ответить можем))

                It seems to me that it is much more efficient to gouge it with Iskanders than subsonic CDs.
                А эта статейка похожа на раздувание "сенсации".
                1. Albert1988
                  Albert1988 21 October 2015 20: 36 New
                  +1
                  Quote: SIvan
                  It seems to me that it is much more efficient to gouge it with Iskanders than subsonic CDs.
                  А эта статейка похожа на раздувание "сенсации".

                  Во первых баллистическая ракета Искандера бьёт всего на 300-500 км, "калибр" - на 1500-2000 км - разница ощутимая. И потом - с пусковой установки Искандера можно запускать те же самые крылатые ракеты (по этому числе прочего американцы и подняли шум про РСМД).
                  And the Kyrgyz Republic is good not so much for destroying the ground component of missile defense as for working on Amer’s ships, or for targets in the western part of Europe, where Iskander will not get it.
            2. satris
              satris 21 October 2015 11: 18 New
              0
              And what's the difference, which missile will deliver a nuclear charge - winged or ballistic? Well, yes, the winged one will bring less, but there can be more of them ...
              1. Albert1988
                Albert1988 21 October 2015 11: 26 New
                +3
                Quote: satris
                And what's the difference, which missile will deliver a nuclear charge - winged or ballistic? Well, yes, the winged one will bring less, but there can be more of them ...

                Дело в том, что американцы долгое время упирали на стратегию так называемого "молниеносного глобального удара" - пользуясь своим превосходством в количестве крылатых ракет они рассчитывали проста заплевать нас ими: все ракеты наша ПВО просто не собьёт, оставшиеся причинят серьёзные разрушения, что должно "вынудить Россию капитулировать". При это расчёт был ещё и на то, что у нас крылатых ракет мало, радиус действия у них небольшой, а значит ответить мы сможем только МБРами, а в таких условиях, по мнению амеров, мы бы не решились начать ядерную войну. Так что они рассчитывали именно что неядерными средствами нас завалить. Но вот беда - "калибры" их немного отрезвили.
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        3. Blondy
          Blondy 21 October 2015 11: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: Baikonur
          Finally, they revealed to the world our CALIBER (thick and long) and showed which Americans are dull!
          Maybe it will reach the rest of the USA! Who is who!



          Да-а, тут наше МО во главе с Кужугетычем можно поздравить с успешным экспортом двух извечных российских ворпосов "что делать?" и "кто виноват?" по поводу размещения американской ПРО в Еропе, когда на кнопки нажимают американцы, а получать будут европецы.
      2. Alex_Rarog
        Alex_Rarog 21 October 2015 10: 36 New
        +1
        Yeah, only in the morning in the article about the Euro missile defense test wrote that it was meaningless in the light of new data on the Caliber.
        1. region58
          region58 21 October 2015 10: 46 New
          +3
          Quote: Alex_Rarog
          Yeah, only in the morning in the article about the Euro missile defense test wrote that it was meaningless in the light of new data on the Caliber.

          ПРО не только против крылатых ракет. Разные цели, разные скорости, да много чего разного... В конце концов "Томагавки" давно появились, и что нам ползти в сторону кладбища? Да ну на...
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 21 October 2015 11: 07 New
            +5
            Quote: region58
            В конце концов "Томагавки" давно появились, и что нам ползти в сторону кладбища? Да ну на...


            As well as calibers, it’s not a mystery or a child prodigy for a long time ... it’s just too simple for patriots to become masters of the world, such a feeling read comments from each other fellow and the remnants of the brain wedge tightly ..
            1. Albert1988
              Albert1988 21 October 2015 14: 56 New
              0
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              As well as calibers, it’s not a mystery or a child prodigy for a long time ..

              Дело не в том, что про них "не знали", а что предполагали у них на порядок меньший радиус действия, а значит что не только у амеров теперь есть длинные "крылаторакетные" руки корабельного базирования.
              Ну и информационный эффект, конечно, имеет место быть - ведь одно дело просто прочитать ТТХ "на бумажке" и совсем другое, когда "реальные ракеты реально бомбанули по реальным целям на нереальном расстоянии". Живое подтверждение поговорки о том, что единожды увиденное имеет много больший эффект, чем многократно услышанное.
        2. Polite Moose
          Polite Moose 21 October 2015 10: 51 New
          +2
          Quote: Alex_Rarog
          Yeah, only in the morning in the article about the Euro missile defense test wrote that it was meaningless in the light of new data on the Caliber.


          I’m afraid that the true purpose of the Euro missile defense is not to intercept our missiles, but to launch the first disarming strike (with the appropriate equipment of anti-missile). That is, placing directly at our borders URO with a very short reaction time.
          1. made13
            made13 21 October 2015 11: 04 New
            +2
            ABM protects the US in the first place. All other countries - either a bargaining chip or a springboard for the deployment of preventive strike forces. And no one will guarantee that the United States did not deploy missiles prohibited by the INF Treaty there.
        3. Bayonet
          Bayonet 22 October 2015 07: 11 New
          0
          Quote: Alex_Rarog
          Yeah, only in the morning in the article about the Euro missile defense test wrote that it was meaningless in the light of new data on the Caliber.

          This missile defense is designed to combat ballistic rather than cruise missiles. Why empty chatter? request
      3. nemo778
        nemo778 23 October 2015 23: 34 New
        0
        Не знаю! Может Я! И Уря-яяя Патриот! Но!У меня до сих пор, мурашки по коже,от таких возможностей нашего "калибра"!А ведь 1500км-это по прямой!С огибанием рельефа-мин2500км( с бч-450кг)! А ядерная около-100кг,дальше простая физика good А если такой сюрприз из под воды! С"ВАРШОВЯНКИ"! love hi
    2. Kostyar
      Kostyar 21 October 2015 09: 52 New
      +1
      “Essentially, NATO has become easy prey,” the analyst concludes.

      What is this ...?! You have not seen the rest yet, NATO ...! - the anchor to you, in, right there ... !!!
      1. Aleks28
        Aleks28 21 October 2015 10: 03 New
        0
        Quote: Bone

        What is this ...?! You have not seen the rest yet, NATO ...! - the anchor to you, in, right there ... !!!

        They are now convulsively testing their ABM to be unsuitable ... laughing
        1. Bombardier
          Bombardier 21 October 2015 10: 12 New
          +1
          MOSCOW, October 20 - RIA News. A large number of foreign mercenaries arrive in the Syrian province of Idlib and join the ranks of terrorists, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Tuesday.
          Russian military aircraft at the Khmeimim airbase in Syria.

          "Главарями бандформирований проводится работа по восполнению потерь, понесенных в боях с сирийскими войсками и в результате дезертирства боевиков. По сведениям сирийской разведки, в провинции Идлиб отмечается прибытие большого количества иностранных наемников", — говорится в сообщении на сайте российского оборонного ведомства.

          RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/syria/20151020/1305320031.html#ixzz3pBVUKKgG
          1. Aleks28
            Aleks28 21 October 2015 10: 16 New
            +1
            Quote: Bombardier
            MOSCOW, October 20 - RIA News. A large number of foreign mercenaries arrive in the Syrian province of Idlib and join the ranks of terrorists, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Tuesday.

            Eh, without the Kadyrovskys apparently can not do .... request
        2. veksha50
          veksha50 21 October 2015 11: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: Alex28
          They are now convulsively testing their ABM to be unusable ..



          Hmm ... Starts - showed, but the effectiveness remained in seven seals ...

          It seems to me that if everything went well, then there would be a lot of noise ... Like - we are not afraid of your Caliber-Iskander and other and other ...
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    4. One, two, on the left.
      One, two, on the left. 21 October 2015 10: 18 New
      0
      The name of the analyst killed me, P. Escobar. Greetings to Colombia. And I also think it’s time to open the drug trafficking corridor. Afgan-usa. My hands are itching straight. They are the eastern city, singing us. And we are their east.
    5. Rus2012
      Rus2012 21 October 2015 10: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: prabiz
      We still have a lot of evidence of its uselessness!

      ...если рассуждать трезво, то Калибр в любом виде оснащения и размещения - это оружие превентивного удара. Это значит, учитывая подлетное расстояние - 500-1000км, ударить первыми за час-полтора до момента "Х". Чтобы успеть вывести из строя евроПРО до старта противоракет (или томогавков с ПУ Мк41)...
      Получатся "оружие сдерживания".
      "Искандер-М" и "Рубеж" РС-26 успевают сделать то же, минут за 10-30.
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 21 October 2015 10: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: Rus2012
        In order to have time to disable Euro missile defense systems before the launch of anti-ballistic missiles (or Tomahawks with PU Mk41) ...

        There is a concept of using a leader rocket. The leading missile detonates a nuclear warhead in the atmosphere, as a result of which the enemy’s air defense and missile defense go blind and then are carried out following her followers.
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 21 October 2015 11: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: GRAY
          There is a concept of using a leader rocket. The leading missile detonates a nuclear warhead in the atmosphere, as a result of which the enemy’s air defense and missile defense go blind and then are carried out following her followers.

          And that the electronics of the guided missiles will not suffer?
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 21 October 2015 13: 54 New
            0
            Quote: sa-ag

            And that the electronics of the guided missiles will not suffer?

            All military equipment is designed taking into account the impact of electromagnetic radiation. However, radars and radio communications are most sensitive to this damaging factor, not the fact that the equipment will burn off tightly, but a malfunction is inevitable.
        2. gunya
          gunya 21 October 2015 14: 27 New
          +1
          А почему остаются "зрячими" последующие ракеты?
          Ionizing radiation is still not targeted.
      2. Kalmar
        Kalmar 21 October 2015 11: 39 New
        +2
        ... soberly speaking, then the Caliber in any form of equipment and placement is a weapon of a preemptive strike

        Маловероятно. Не забываем, что к объектам евроПРО ракеты полетят не над безлюдной пустыней, а над густонаселенными районами, где действует полно военных и гражданских радаров, в воздухе вьются истребители и самолеты ДРЛО и т.п. Да и все потенциальные носители "Калибров" в угрожаемый период будут под плотным наблюдением.

        В таких условиях бахнуть незаметно будет очень и очень сложно; противник почти наверняка узнает об атаке задолго до подлета ракет к целям. Как следствие, у него будет предостаточно времени, чтобы бахнуть в ответ, и "Калибрам" останется долбить уже пустые ПУ.
    6. Vend
      Vend 21 October 2015 10: 19 New
      0
      Quote: prabiz
      We still have a lot of evidence of its uselessness!

      Вот только для США это без разницы. По ходу дела установка ПРО в Европе это чистый бизнес. И чем дороже это будет для Европы, тем выгодней для США. "Соединенные Штаты впервые провели испытания по программе ПРО в Европе, уничтожив учебную баллистическую ракету в северной части Атлантического океана."https://news.mail.ru/politics/23701032/?frommail=1
    7. yushch
      yushch 21 October 2015 10: 38 New
      0
      I do not agree about the futility of the American expensive missile defense system in Europe. It is very useful to the arms lobby of the United States, because the key word here is EXPENSIVE, and the rest is noodles on the ears of their vassals. The main thing is the superprofits of arms corporations.
    8. vodolaz
      vodolaz 21 October 2015 10: 57 New
      0
      Like in a joke: -And next time we will release a combine in the field!
      1. kodxnumx
        kodxnumx 21 October 2015 11: 14 New
        0
        Of course, it’s very nice to hear such an analysis addressed to Russia and its weapons, but you need to understand that the United States and NATO will not stand still, their technologies are also advanced, so that everything is just beginning, Russia has gone out of existence, 90x. So we challenged now there is no turning back only forward to Victory! So the country will wait and hope that our scientists will not fail.
        1. Kalmar
          Kalmar 21 October 2015 11: 44 New
          +2
          you need to understand that the US and NATO will not stand still, their technologies are also advanced

          Хуже того, конкретно в части крылатых ракет вроде "Калибра" они нас лет на 30 опередили: "Томагавки" еще с 80х годов штампуются как горячие пирожки, носителей ракет - десятки уже в строю. "Калибр" же еще только-только осваивается войсками, так что расслабляться да, еще очень и очень рано.
    9. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 21 October 2015 14: 44 New
      0
      It's nice to hear it....
    10. GSH-18
      GSH-18 21 October 2015 19: 23 New
      0
      Citing the words of the Commander-in-Chief of NATO forces in Europe that “Russia's very sophisticated missile defense capabilities are not directed against jihadists in Syria, but against something else”

      laughing laughing laughing Smoke less! lol
    11. meriem1
      meriem1 23 October 2015 18: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: prabiz
      We still have a lot of evidence of its uselessness!


      We have such ....... appliances. But we will not tell them about them.)))
    12. GSH-18
      GSH-18 26 October 2015 18: 33 New
      0
      "Calibers", according to the analyst, have become a factor that changed the rules of the game.

      Yeah.. lol The scribe crept unnoticed, even though he was visible from afar!
      Единственное, чего не знали aмерспецслужбы-это о реальной дальности "Калибров". Они и сейчас предела этого параметра не знают скорей всего lol
      Hence the panic.
  2. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 21 October 2015 09: 49 New
    +6
    I am tormented by vague doubts - but did the NATO members observe the flight trajectory? Dyuzhe curious! wink
    1. Good me
      Good me 21 October 2015 09: 54 New
      10
      Quote: Black Colonel
      I am tormented by vague doubts - but did the NATO members observe the flight trajectory? Dyuzhe curious!


      There are suspicions that they are AT ALL GROUP START, "прозевали" yes .

      Where else is there to trace the trajectory ...


      Всё как на картинке, за исключением "Никому ничего не скажу".

      Подняли вой об "упавших в Иране" "Калибрах"... Лучше бы молчали, за умных сошли бы...
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    2. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 21 October 2015 09: 58 New
      +5
      Rockets flashed

      An excerpt from what I read earlier on the site.
      Quote : ""... думаю, все понимают, что Россия здесь проверила и продемонстрировала свои возможности. Безусловно, everything shrank in the West, когда их радары не засекли наши ракеты.""

      But the bench press was in fact.
    3. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
      Vladimir Pozlnyakov 21 October 2015 10: 00 New
      +3
      После успешного пуска "Калибров", ые гейевропоиды и натовский заокеанский обезьянник с линейками и циркулями бросились к картам, отмеряя 1500 км от акваторий ближлежащих морей и заливов океанов! А ещё "Юрий (да ещё) Долгорукий" не всё сказал! Трепещите твари!
      1. Good me
        Good me 21 October 2015 10: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir Pozlnyakov
        А ещё "Юрий (да ещё) Долгорукий" не всё сказал! Трепещите твари!



        Will build Moscow, in the zone of maximum radius of fire repeat .

        A LIMIT, then, for him NO laughing

    4. Meh-forester
      Meh-forester 21 October 2015 10: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Black Colonel
      I am tormented by vague doubts - but did the NATO members observe the flight trajectory? Dyuzhe curious!

      Что бы что наблюдать, в ту сторону надо хотя бы по крайне мере смотреть, а так как в акватории Каспийского моря у нас нет стратегических ракетоносцев, то и за этим регионом следили так себе, ну не ожидали же они, что мы способны вот такой "фейрферк" устроить от туда, вот и просмотрели. Не надо недооценивать возможности противника. хуже иное, один из наших секретов, мы противнику уже показали и в следующий раз он будет готов.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 21 October 2015 10: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: Meh-forester
        Do not underestimate the capabilities of the enemy. worse, one of our secrets, we have already shown the enemy and the next time he will be ready.

        laughing ready to track the Caspian? and if from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk or the Barents, what will arrive? or even a boat from the Volga will be blown up, the Volga is a big river and wide in some places.
        1. Good me
          Good me 21 October 2015 13: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: Corsair
          Quote: Meh-forester
          Do not underestimate the capabilities of the enemy. worse, one of our secrets, we have already shown the enemy and the next time he will be ready.

          laughing ready to track the Caspian? and if from the Sea of ​​Okhotsk or the Barents, what will arrive? or even a boat from the Volga will be blown up, the Volga is a big river and wide in some places.


          А ведь поговаривают и о "контейнерной" модификации "Калибра". А это уже не только морской, речной и Ж/Д транспорт, но и любая площадка на которой в в какой-то момент оказался "груз"...

          Такой "логистикой", можно свести с ума любую разведку...
  3. Decathlon
    Decathlon 21 October 2015 09: 49 New
    +1
    "... а против чего-то ещё..."
    Well done! Design, without intent, is fiction!
  4. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 21 October 2015 09: 49 New
    +2
    По поводу переформатирования Ближнего Востока на амерский лад соглашусь что не получится всё чо задумано в фашингтоне. Но по "Калибрам"... не так всё благостно как хотелось бы. Упуская ТТХ упомяну восполняемость арсенала и носители. С носителями то швах... crying
  5. podpolkovnik
    podpolkovnik 21 October 2015 09: 50 New
    14
    A demonstration of the capabilities of high-precision Russian weapons in Syria has shown all the futility of Washington's multi-billion dollar plans to deploy a missile defense system in Europe
    1. amirbek
      amirbek 21 October 2015 11: 30 New
      +2
      and this is at that moment when the deployment was almost completed ... and this is all that was invested / acquired by overwork ... laughing
      let now come up with some kind of protective field!
  6. Midshipman
    Midshipman 21 October 2015 09: 50 New
    +4
    It feels like they are playing giveaways.
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  8. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 21 October 2015 09: 51 New
    +2
    Euro-missile defense has one goal - to be a target for Russian missiles. smile
    1. oblako
      oblako 21 October 2015 10: 18 New
      +3
      Сейчас есть концепция универсальности пусковых установок. так вот из этих ПУ вполне можно пускать СКР класса "земля-земля", "земля-море". Я бы не забывал, что сюрпризы не только мы можем делать...
  9. meriem1
    meriem1 21 October 2015 09: 51 New
    +1
    “Russia's very sophisticated missile defense capabilities are not directed against jihadists in Syria, but against something else”


    Not for anything else !!! And specifically it is clear to anyone! Were they warned? or not???
  10. bmv04636
    bmv04636 21 October 2015 09: 52 New
    0
    It’s interesting here we were scared that they would give cruise missiles to planes to their husbands, well, now who scared anyone? laughing
  11. Abakan
    Abakan 21 October 2015 09: 52 New
    0
    again buzzing money)) as usual))
  12. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 21 October 2015 09: 52 New
    14
    In essence, NATO has become easy prey, ”the analyst concludes.

    Frankly, you’re an analyst so-so ...
    Yes, our blow was unexpected, I would say shocking for NATO. However, now they’re already komoechut something there to counter. In addition, their entire missile defense system is not a defense scheme (which Kalibrov actually confirmed), but a weapon to strike at Russia. And since the number of points of the so-called missile defense system is only increasing, it means that the danger for Russia is also increasing.
    1. amirbek
      amirbek 21 October 2015 11: 46 New
      -1
      hawks depressed from the result ... do not reach the ark don't fly don't fly
  13. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 21 October 2015 09: 52 New
    +5
    I have been waiting for this information for a long time that their IJIS is rag bullshit hi
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 21 October 2015 09: 56 New
      +4
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      that theirs is AJIS, this is rag bullshit

      Оружие плохим не бывает, бывают "кривые" руки и тухлые мозги.
    2. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 21 October 2015 09: 57 New
      +1
      And what does IJIS have to do with it?
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 21 October 2015 10: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: Corsair0304
        And what does IJIS have to do with it?

        laughing oh well, people have not woken up yet ...
      2. Good me
        Good me 21 October 2015 13: 04 New
        -1
        Quote: Corsair0304
        And what does IJIS have to do with it?


        Quote: Das Boot
        Quote: Corsair0304
        And what does IJIS have to do with it?

        laughing oh well, people have not woken up yet ...



        А чего "наехали" на человека ? Что не так он написал ?

        To date, Aegis BIUS is used by the US Navy, the Spanish Navy, Norway, the Republic of Korea and the Japanese Naval Self-Defense Forces (in total, more than 100 ships are equipped with it). Soon, the Aegis installation is expected on the new Australian Navy air defense destroyers. In addition, US Navy ships equipped with this system will be used as a ship component of NATO’s European missile defense system.



        An article about the inability of the missile defense created by the Yusovtsy to intercept our missiles? Is not it ?
  14. gelezo47
    gelezo47 21 October 2015 09: 53 New
    +1
    May God grant that it would be so. It’s time for the mattresses to abandon their exclusivity ... soldier
  15. ImPerts
    ImPerts 21 October 2015 09: 53 New
    +3
    Когда были запущены КР, то меня охватили радостные чувства. Читая рассуждения доморощенных икспертов, что публиковали отечественные "независимые" СМИ, где сравнивались методы ведения боевых действий НАТО в Югославии и наших в ЧР, то взахлёб говорили о превосходстве западных технологий и нежелательности сопротивления планам "цивилизованного" мира.
    En here, take a bite)))
  16. venaya
    venaya 21 October 2015 09: 54 New
    0
    the alliance is scared that its advanced C4i software has shown complete failure before Russian technologies

    Хоть таким способом, но успокоить западников со своими ПРО. Пусть пока подумают, что им дальше делать, а нам не стоит расслабляться и стоит придумать ещё очередную бяку, для "хороших" людей.
  17. sl22277
    sl22277 21 October 2015 09: 54 New
    0
    Последняя показательная демонстрация в Сирии лишь части возможностей российского вооружения, ярко доказала США и всему миру, что пора бы, наконец, серьезно задуматься.А Вашингтону– пересмотреть сомнительные перспективы так называемой политики "глобального доминирования",а другим странам – поразмыслить о том, правильно ли выбран "гегемон", во благо которого приходится терпеть столько экономических и политических неудобств.
  18. marlin1203
    marlin1203 21 October 2015 09: 54 New
    19
    The analyst is clearly not an analyst. am Система ПРО вообще была ориентирована на перехват стратегических баллистических ракет. "Скорость, превышающая скорость американских беспилотников" - фраза совсем ни о чем. Ракеты "калибра" дозвуковые крылатые, да и беспилотники разные бывают. "НАТО превратиличь в легкую добычу" - это вообще детское заявление. Появление у нас эффективной системы крылатых ракет -это прекрасно. Американцы такими уже лет 30 пользуются, соответственно неплохо представляют как их и сбивать. Вот то, что они эти запуски не отследили со всей своей спутниковой группировкой и средствами обнаружения (как по крайней мере писалось в сми) вот это им "тревожный звоночек". Так что ну их нафиг таких "аналитиков" Рассуждают на уровне бабушек у подъезда. На ВО можно более зрелые статьи и комменты увидеть чем у этого Пепе.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 21 October 2015 09: 59 New
      0
      Quote: marlin1203
      Here is what they did not track these launches with all their satellite constellation and detection tools.

      The human factor, as it was then in the exercises, when they took the target on board the destroyer
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  19. Meckajiuhe
    Meckajiuhe 21 October 2015 09: 55 New
    +1
    Something like I do not really believe ... All the same, too much was lost in the 90s ... although ... for every tricky one ... there is ... with a screw.
  20. Prisoner
    Prisoner 21 October 2015 09: 55 New
    +1
    "Со скоростью превышающий скорость наших беспилотников" No. А что не сказал о том, что и скорость ваших "томагавков" превышает?
  21. Hubun
    Hubun 21 October 2015 09: 55 New
    +1
    Eh early, we flashed the skill, even if we invested even more significantly in our air defense, which ultimately will be useless
  22. V.ic
    V.ic 21 October 2015 10: 01 New
    0
    Для USA демонстрация нами "Калибра" - это "нежданчик" высшего сорта, хотя они что-то там трындели про наши модернизированные ракеты, якобы нарушающие договор по ПРО... Вот и дотрынделись до мокрых памперсов! А нам приятно!
  23. Victor-M
    Victor-M 21 October 2015 10: 01 New
    +1
    A demonstration of the capabilities of high-precision Russian weapons in Syria showed the futility of Washington’s multi-billion dollar plans to deploy a missile defense system in Europe, RT analyst Pepe Escobar said.

    Российский "Калибр"универсальный "инструмент", подойдёт к любому размеру западных натовских задниц от "L" до "XXXL". Им должно понравиться. wink laughing
  24. Dimka off
    Dimka off 21 October 2015 10: 06 New
    0
    beauty)) did not see the missiles - in case of war they will suffer a serious defeat)
  25. 79807420129
    79807420129 21 October 2015 10: 08 New
    +9
    The United States understands only power and it is possible to negotiate with them only with the help of Caliber and other systems, otherwise all contracts are cheaper than the paper on which these contracts are written.
  26. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 21 October 2015 10: 08 New
    +9
    Caliber - subsonic KR, similar to the American Tomahawk.
    Both are good long-range precision weapons. Both are not so difficult
    knock down an organized air defense system.

    To the US missile defense system operating on medium-range ballistic missiles,
    Gauges are irrelevant.
    1. just exp
      just exp 21 October 2015 10: 37 New
      0
      if we take into account that the calibers, and indeed any other missile defense systems, can carry out the objects of this missile defense system, they still begin to have an attitude.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 21 October 2015 11: 15 New
        +2
        You are right, in general ...
        The objects of the American missile defense are destroyers.
        Caliber (redone, with a decent seeker) can be launched
        and to the ship. But the destroyer has its own air defense. If the destroyer in the composition
        AUG, then the air is full of airplanes: and AWACS and fighters,
        which intercept subsonic KR is quite capable.
        That is, there will be a certain battle between the Kyrgyz Republic and air defense.
  27. yan 2015
    yan 2015 21 October 2015 10: 10 New
    -2
    how it’s basking .. here’s your grandmother and St. George’s Day. Repin's picture Didn't Wait. what to do now. how to live on.
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  29. shimus
    shimus 21 October 2015 10: 13 New
    +2
    Да, а еще нужно учесть тот факт, что по словам "великого" демократа "исключительной" нации, господина Обамы, ЭКОНОМИКА РОССИИ РАЗОРВАНА В КЛОЧЬЯ. Резонный вопрос, ОТКУДА ТАКОЕ ВЫСОКОТОЧНОЕ ВООРУЖЕНИЕ??? Россия что, клад нашла???
    No, Russia was, is and WILL be a Great Power !!!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 21 October 2015 11: 20 New
      +5
      High-precision weapons are not enough to create - they need to be produced
      in large quantities. And it takes a lot of money. From the budget.
      And the budget is part of the economy.
      Tomahawk may not be super-weapons, but the Americans have thousands of them.
      And how many calibers? I dont know.
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      2. Now we are free
        Now we are free 21 October 2015 12: 38 New
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        High-precision weapons are not enough to create - they need to be produced
        in large quantities. And it takes a lot of money. From the budget.
        And the budget is part of the economy.
        Tomahawk may not be super-weapons, but the Americans have thousands of them.
        And how many calibers? I dont know.

        Shalom is another warrior. hi
        Американцы и Ко во время агрессии в Ираке израсходовали почти весь боезапас Томагавков. По этому поводу были даже слушанья в конгрессе США, где был поставлен вопрос о том, что использование КР это конечно хорошо и удобно/безопасно, но на тот момент США и её союзники остались практически без КР (остаток КР составил чуть более 20 %) А ведь это был не такой уж и большой Ирак уже по большому счёту задушенный санкциями и не восстановившийся после разгрома 1991 года... Если же говорить о какой либо стране, которая больше Ирака по размеру и явно стоит выше в плане оснащения своей ПВО и управления, вопрос о всемогуществе "Томагавков" повистает в воздухе...
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 22 October 2015 09: 51 New
          +1
          What to do. Ammunition Consumption in Intensive
          wars are crazy. And often that simply wins
          who has more.
          In the Doomsday War, there was such a tank-cutting that Israel
          tank shells ended. Americans urgently planted
          on transporters.
          Israel still stores all 105 mm shells (although such
          tanks are no longer) to use in case of a similar emergency, as
          subcaliber (with nozzle).
  30. afrikanez
    afrikanez 21 October 2015 10: 13 New
    0
    proves the futility of deploying American missiles in Eastern Europe
    We then perfectly understand this, only the Americans have to understand it. Well, as we all know, this is impossible for them. Anything to change or change is similar to death for them. That will rest until the very end. Well, as they say: -Humpback only the grave will fix!
  31. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 21 October 2015 10: 17 New
    +8
    The article is muddy ... ABM is able to work on cruise missiles. On a military review, they post articles of stupid people who, in their miserable arrogance and hatred, are simply ridiculous.
    Do not underestimate your enemies, you need to really assess the situation.
  32. Engineer
    Engineer 21 October 2015 10: 19 New
    +1
    It feels like we didn’t have cruise missiles before Caliber 3m14. And then bang, and appeared. About the Soviet Grenade 3m10 and X-55 completely forgot something. And 3m14 is just the development of the Grenade, which can all be the same, only the accuracy is slightly less, but the range seems to be larger, since the Caliber is shorter than it.
  33. Arkan
    Arkan 21 October 2015 10: 21 New
    +1
    RT: “Caliber” proved the worthlessness of the expensive US missile defense system


    We should not be misled by the speeches of our opponents. We must be on the alert and further improve the striking power of our Armed Forces. Let them fear us.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 21 October 2015 10: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Arkan
      We should not be misled by the speeches of our opponents.

      Well, actually Escobar from a biased RT) If you read in English, I recommend it Say hello to my cruise missiles
  34. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 21 October 2015 10: 21 New
    +2
    Drying nightmare ISIS

    1. Gloomy Hedgehog
      Gloomy Hedgehog 21 October 2015 10: 34 New
      +3
      These igilov terrorists need to be informed that our missiles are pointing at their alahuakbar. Let them already shout something else, tired of it already.
      1. Good me
        Good me 21 October 2015 13: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Gloomy Hedgehog
        These igilov terrorists need to be informed that our missiles are pointing at their alahuakbar. Let them already shout something else, tired of it already.


        Интересно,уровень образованности этих "алллахакбаров", позволяет осознать где эта страшная Россия находится,и почему они навлекли на себя гнев небес ?

        DO NOT ANGRY RUSSIA!
    2. asbaev
      asbaev 21 October 2015 17: 35 New
      -1
      Already the voice is cracking, their speech is not intelligible, they cannot pronounce their favorite words clearly
  35. bugrovata
    bugrovata 21 October 2015 10: 21 New
    +2
    Not! Fine! To get a taste of it! wink Putin said that we still have many surprises! wassat Let them break their heads - if this is the smallest surprise, then how we will hit them with the next (what a good word: hit, kill, surprise - surprise!)! soldier
    Give me more pluses! I want to advance on the job! repeat
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 21 October 2015 10: 32 New
      0
      for 16 days of presence on the site with the registration of 16 comments.
      Kitty, you need to work (s)
  36. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 21 October 2015 10: 27 New
    +1
    It’s just that the Americans, after reading the Internet and newspapers (where they get all the evidence from), were fully confident that the former manager of the furniture salon (did everything for them) had destroyed, reduced, plundered everything in the Russian army and replaced the dismissed generals and colonels Vasiliev and other women who supplemented the complete rout (in their opinion) of the army. And then out of nowhere (well, just like a Russian folk tale) thunder from a clear sky.
  37. Das Boot
    Das Boot 21 October 2015 10: 28 New
    +2
    speeding american drones

    одна эта фраза отправляет "аналитика" в мусор. Правда, перевод не корректен. Вот оригинал с RT: "The Kalibr-NK flew over both Iran and Iraq, at a maximum altitude of 100 meters – not to mention speeding by a US drone."(с) Но тем не менее, сравнивать КР с 0.8М и UAV с 400-ми км/ч, по меньшей мере, глупо.
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 21 October 2015 10: 42 New
      -1
      and what is wrong with this translation?
  38. Watchdog
    Watchdog 21 October 2015 10: 30 New
    0
    Самое интересное, что на западе знают - русские не любят демонстрировать свои "игрушки". Раз показали "Калибр" значит есть еще "сюрпризы". А куда уж еще сюрпризнее, то??? request fellow
  39. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 21 October 2015 10: 37 New
    +1
    Ну, американцы же сами вещали что "на первом этапе Евро ПРО не будет направлена против России" (за точность цитаты не ручаюсь, по памяти привожу) вот наши и "спрофилактировали" не дожидаясь второго и третьего этапов. Это им " на подумать"- вбивать деньги дальше или плюнуть на всё winked
    Personally, I think they will choose the first option lol
  40. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 21 October 2015 10: 37 New
    -1
    Quote: vovanpain
    That's what the life-giving caliber does, cools too hot heads.


    Inspired.
    "Я достаю из широких штанин
    Дубликатом бесценного груза ..."
    This is for you Americans, not some citizen, citizen.
    It feels like Putin is playing 21 with Obama. Knowing the cards. And we thought about poker ... Again, the inadequate use of force by the Russians. Why does he know the cards? And why the SVR? And the greedy CIA-schnicks.
  41. Selevc
    Selevc 21 October 2015 10: 41 New
    +1
    «весьма изощренные возможности России по противоракетной обороне направлены не против джихадистов в Сирии, а против чего-то ещё», он отмечает: «Бридлав не может публично признать, что запуск ракет "Калибр" из Каспийского моря может быть сигналом для НАТО».
    No, no ... In no case is it against NATO ... Caliber rockets from the very beginning were created as a response to the Somali missile defense, the Honduran hypersonic super stealth helicopter and Paraguayan aircraft carriers !!! ))))))))))))
  42. X Y Z
    X Y Z 21 October 2015 10: 46 New
    0
    The author does not own shares in the manufacturing company and therefore for him everything is useless and expensive. For the guys who pierced through the Congress all these toys, everything is just fine and optimal. Work on the next step, even more expensive. And for those who doubt, there is a Russian military threat.
  43. veksha50
    veksha50 21 October 2015 10: 49 New
    +3
    "запуск ракет "Калибр" из Каспийского моря may be a signal для НАТО"...

    He (signal) - cannot ... For the reason that he - took place... In this case, Russia has shown that it has an effective weapon against the deployed missile defense ...

    Только вот убивают напрочь такие фразы, как "Запад в ужасе"... "НАТО в ужасе"... И доверять им - нельзя...

    No one is terrified, especially the military ... Now they are rethinking the current situation ... They have enough money and opportunities, they will spin up new military toys, and ours will come up with new countermeasures for them ... The usual course of further development of military science and technology ...

    Russia cannot rest on its laurels ... It’s like riding a bicycle: if you go, it means that on a horse; stopped - fell ...
  44. Velizariy
    Velizariy 21 October 2015 10: 51 New
    0
    Quote: Gormengast
    Euro-missile defense has one goal - to be a target for Russian missiles. smile

    I think this is not entirely true ... SM-3 is a good rocket, and flies far ... and warhead? and you can change the warhead, rewrite the program ... The main thing is to place it.
  45. Mera joota
    Mera joota 21 October 2015 11: 04 New
    -2
    Pepe Escobar, go further coke sniff, found a pancake specialist analyst ... Where does RT find such boobies?
  46. gg.na
    gg.na 21 October 2015 11: 04 New
    -1
    The exclusivity of our products ....... s, wassat partners came to an end !!! lol
  47. barclay
    barclay 21 October 2015 11: 05 New
    -1
    “Essentially, NATO has become easy prey,” the analyst concludes.

    If they want to consider themselves to be prey, then let them not worry anymore. And then with their nervous movements they will break firewood.
    We will be calmer.
  48. Kibl
    Kibl 21 October 2015 11: 10 New
    +1
    Да эта хваленная матрасная ПРО и без "Калибра" бестолковая дорогущая куча хлама,очередной пентагоновский распил нарезанной бумаги.
  49. slizhov
    slizhov 21 October 2015 11: 24 New
    +2
    But the consequences are the same ...
    For a long time, Uncle Sam watched those whom he decided to destroy wrinkle in agony ...
    And NOW IS THE MOMENT, when the same Uncle began to CONSTANTLY LOOK UP, in fear -
    but doesn’t fly something into lobeshnik ???
  50. roskot
    roskot 21 October 2015 11: 31 New
    +1
    Russia's most sophisticated missile defense capabilities are not directed against jihadists in Syria, but against something else, ”

    You have a missile defense against Iran, we have jihadists in Syria. What is not clear.
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 21 October 2015 18: 41 New
      +4
      Or against the extraterrestrial invasion of the brothers in the mind, eating hamburgers and drinking it with cola, as well as in the case of the zombie apocalypse, where zombies jump, but they do not eat the brain. They have it all around.
      1. _GSVG_
        _GSVG_ 22 October 2015 20: 41 New
        0
        laughing They have it all around. laughing