From the air deadlock

"The state of civil aviation Of Russia. Flight safety. Personnel. Public Administration and Regulation ”- hearings on this subject were held in the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation.


The hearings in the Public Chamber were attended by members of the public councils of the Federal Air Transport Agency and the Federal Service for Supervision in the Field of Transport, members of the Expert Council in the field of civil aviation of Russia, representatives of trade unions, public and veteran organizations, enterprises and institutions of civil aviation, the State Duma and the Council The Federation, the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs, the Union of Transport Workers of Russia, the presidential administration, the government, interested representatives STV, other executive authorities. The reports of the Chairman of the Public Council under the Federal Air Navigation Agency Peter Deinekin and seven co-reports of leading experts of the industry were heard.

Last year's achievements

The Public Chamber notes that in recent years, civil aviation in Russia has achieved some success:

- The volume of domestic airline traffic in 2014 increased to 93 million passengers;
- Russian airports served 157 to millions of Russian and foreign citizens;
-for the development of the regional route network in 2014, the state allocated 3,58 billion rubles. Subsidies covered 130 domestic routes between 80 cities of the country. The total air transport subsidy for the five programs amounted to 8 billions 700 million rubles;
- introduced 13 routes for the development of communication with the Republic of Crimea;
- during the Olympics 2014, more than six thousand flights to Sochi were exemplary performed, about 400 thousands of passengers were transported;
- a system of aviation education has been maintained, the material and technical base of universities and colleges of civil aviation has been strengthened. In recent years, 320 training aircraft and modern simulators have been acquired. The number of students in educational institutions GA is about 25 thousands;
- successfully introduced a new (more dense) vertical separation system, the traffic intensity in the Russian airspace has increased one and a half times in five years;
- From 2007 to 2015, seven federal state-owned enterprises were established, including 67 airports and landing sites in the Far North, Siberia, and the Far East;
- reconstruction and construction of federal airports will be carried out. In 2014, 73 billion rubles were allocated for these purposes, of which 34,6 billion - from the federal budget, 38,4 billion - from other sources.

Reasons to think

From the middle of 2014, the growth rate of air travel began to decline, reaching zero in December. Almost every second airline has completed a year with a negative financial result. For Transaero, No. 2 in Russia in terms of air traffic, the situation turned into a crash.

Losses from the industry of air transport activities in the 2014 year on domestic lines amount to 32 billion rubles.

From the air deadlock


The decline in air traffic continued and reached nine percent in the first four months of 2015. For example, about Transaero flights have sold about 650 thousands of tickets with a total value of about 10 billion rubles. Nevertheless, the air carrier (after the companies UTair, Vladivostok Avia and others) goes through a bankruptcy procedure. Russian tour operators have already recorded the resulting increase in air ticket prices. For example, a flight from Moscow to Blagoveshchensk costs now thousands in 22, thousands in Magadan - thousands 32, and in Anadyr - 68 thousands of rubles.

The country does not currently have a national civil air fleet. In Russian airlines, more than 90 percent of all passenger commercial air transportation is carried out by about 900 long-haul aircraft of foreign production. They are not Russian property, the vast majority are leased from foreign enterprises. In recent years, 700 foreign-made helicopters have also arrived in our country. These aircraft are registered in state registers of other countries. Foreign sanctions can stop their operation at any time and create a collapse in the country's air transport system.

Who is at the helm?


The current situation allows us to conclude that the air fleet structure formed spontaneously over the past 25 years is the greatest threat to the stable operation of the industry and the national security of the country.

The Ministry of Transport has not defined acceptable safety performance indicators, as required by the government decree “On Approval of the State Civil Aviation Safety Program for Civil Aviation Aircraft” (No. 641-r dated May 6 on 2008). Target levels and safety performance indicators have not been established in the state, and the official responsible is not defined.

The aforementioned state program requires updating and re-approval in connection with the entry into force of the 2013 Annex “Safety Management” to the Convention on International Civil Aviation since November 19.

In connection with the decline in transportation in the current period, the number of flight and engineering staff, which is a strategically important personnel potential, sharply decreases in airlines. For 2014 – 2015, about a thousand highly qualified pilots were reduced, however, contrary to public opinion, an article of the Air Code of the Russian Federation was introduced, allowing companies to hire foreign nationals as 500 pilots as aircraft captains.

Further strengthening of the educational base of universities, flight and technical schools of civil aviation, and an increase in the funding of the educational process are required. At the same time, the reforms proposed by the Ministry of Education and Science do not take into account the features (difficulties) of the initial flight training process and harm the specific system of training flight personnel.

Russia - the airfield cemetery


Despite the measures taken by the state and business to develop infrastructure in connection with the World Cup, the overall situation with the country's airport network remains unsatisfactory.

The total number of airports and airfields in Russia has decreased five times - from 1450 (in 1991) to 287 (in 2015). The closure of small but socially significant airports and airfields occurred where there is no alternative to air transport: in Siberia, in the Far East and the Far North. The volume of traffic on local airlines currently accounts for only eight to nine percent of the total number of air passengers in Russia.

The lack of stable air traffic in these regions creates difficulties for the population and impedes the realization of the right of citizens to free movement (Article 27 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation).

The current system of state administration and regulation does not meet the requirements of ICAO and is an inhibiting factor in the development of civil aviation. If there are serious internal and external challenges, this structure does not cope with ensuring stable work and intensive development of the industry.

Today, there are four government agencies operating in civil aviation in Russia, the interaction of which is not established, and the functions are not demarcated. None of these structures is responsible for flight safety.

The work of the Department of State Policy in the Field of Civil Aviation, which was not coordinated with the above government bodies, led to serious flaws in the legislation. The development and implementation of regulatory legal acts are carried out at a low professional level, apart from the real activities of airlines.

Software summary


A significant amount of air travel, the vast territory of the country, the presence of hard-to-reach regions, the harsh climate, the needs of society and the real economy in high-speed transport, the need to integrate into the global system, ensuring flight safety in accordance with international standards, eliminating dependence on aircraft imports, maintaining the air business and Ultimately, the security interests of Russia urgently require the creation of a single competent authority to manage, regulate and reconstruct ety of Civil Aviation.

Great concrete work is needed on import substitution of the entire civil air fleet. This is hardly feasible only for the Ministry of Transport and the Ministry of Industry and Trade. It is necessary to consolidate the efforts of many branches of government, departments of the federal and regional levels, the aviation business and the public.

Based on the above, the Public Chamber recommends that the government:

1. Develop and introduce a draft Federal Law on Amendments to the Air Code in order to bring it in line with the Convention on International Civil Aviation.

2. Develop and adopt the State Aviation Safety Program (in accordance with the requirements of Annex 19 “Flight Safety Management” to the Convention on International Civil Aviation).

3. Form the system of state administration and regulation of civil aviation in Russia in accordance with the requirements of ICAO. To form a single body in the format of the Ministry of Civil Aviation or another federal executive body that reports directly to the government of the Russian Federation.

4. Adopt an updated State Program for the Development of Civil Aviation to 2030, providing for the creation of the necessary legal and economic conditions for solving the problems of civil aviation, linked to the regional development programs of the country, with a detailed “road map” of its implementation for each year.

5. Develop measures of import substitution and begin their implementation.

6. Strengthen the training base of universities, flight and technical schools of civil aviation on the basis of increasing funding and updating curricula.

7. To create the Aviation Collegium under the Government of the Russian Federation, whose competence is to include coordination of the entire technological cycle from the development to the end of the operation of aviation technology in order to cover the areas of activity of all suppliers established by the Flight Safety Management 19 Annex to the Convention on International Civil Aviation.
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  1. mig31 21 October 2015 14: 30 New
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    Truly a mess !!!, I remember from the beginning of the nineties, God forgive me, my civic brothers, there really are no others, but GA seems to have lagged behind in its development, it’s time to do it ....
    1. Engineer 21 October 2015 14: 42 New
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      After the collapse of the Union, our liberal democrats were given the clear task of destroying all industries, especially the heavy and defense ones. The goal was to develop trade, of course not domestic products and the development of resource-extracting industries. What, in fact, was done - Russia has become a world gas station. Aviation, as a very high-tech industry, itself suffered greatly, but it was even more affected by the decision to bring cheap air junk to the domestic market. Hundreds of newly formed airlines bought used Boeings, there was no need for domestic aircraft, there was no development of new airliners, production began, robbery, the collapse of related industries and, as a result, SuperJet from imported components. Andrei Nikolaevich in a coffin turned over from this.
      1. quote 21 October 2015 16: 01 New
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        Quote: Engineer
        SuperJet from imported components.

        But are Boeings not from imported components? Or is it all made in the United States?
        1. Haettenschweiler 21 October 2015 16: 38 New
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          Quote: devis
          But are Boeings not from imported components? Or is it all made in the United States?


          - Not everyone.

          http://www.tekku.ru/zavod-boeing-everett-v-ssha/
          1. vladimirZ 21 October 2015 19: 07 New
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            At the moment, the country does not have a national civil air fleet.
            - from article

            And who brought our aviation and Russia to such a state?
            The Americans, the British, sent to harm us?
            Yes, no, our home-grown comprador liberals, pro-Westerners, led first by the US puppet Yeltsin, later Medvedev and Putin.
            Yes, yes, VV Putin, how sad it is to read our "cheers-patriots" singing him ally. It is he, the last one and a half decades, who has been taking on the most important issues of the state, political and economic life of Russia. Is not it?
            As they said in the time of I.V. Stalin every incident, accident, collapse, etc. unhappiness, there is a surname, name, patronymic.
            This trouble has a full name: Yeltsin B.N., Medvedev D. and Putin V.V.
            And there is no way to get away from this fact.
            1. EvilLion 21 October 2015 20: 37 New
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              Between Putin and the collapse of the Union as if 9 years interval. And if you are not able to even see the development trends of the state over this period, then it’s better not to write anything. For some reason, no one criticized anything in the 90s, but they did get how to really start to do something.
              1. vladimirZ 22 October 2015 05: 07 New
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                Dear EvilLion (3), you don’t see the tendency to destroy civil aviation, and the entire Russian economy, which has been going on for over a decade and a half, that the President, Prime Minister of the Russian Government at one time, but permanent political leader of Russia Putin V .V., Is in the supreme power of the state.
                During this period, at least something could be done if one had the desire and political will to do so.
                According to the great statesman of Russia-USSR I.V. Stalin, who had made an industrial breakthrough in the state during the same period, which had won the Great Victory over fascism in the same 15 years, “desire to fulfill, make is 75% of the success” outlined.
                Putin V.V., an adherent of the liberal path of development of Russia, does not have such a desire to bring our state out of the influence of destructive oligarchic governance, the desire for the industrial development of the state for the whole people.
                Everything is left to chance of liberal development, which inevitably leads Russia to collapse.

                Only a blind person like you can not see or analyze these trends.
                And advice to you, if you are referring to strangers, please contact "You." Were you not taught this in your childhood?
                1. andron72 22 October 2015 15: 09 New
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                  so do it you don’t shout from the stool in the kitchen, remember 90 and how you lived fool
              2. 16112014nk 22 October 2015 12: 23 New
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                Pay attention to a man in a raspberry jacket next to Sobchak, one of the destroyers of the USSR. Is it worth reminding or not, who at that time wore such jackets?
        2. Letun 21 October 2015 17: 08 New
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          Quote: devis
          But are Boeings not from imported components? Or is it all made in the United States?

          What is not from the USA is done in their colonies or by their sixes, so there is no need to compare the warm with the soft.
          1. Haettenschweiler 21 October 2015 17: 15 New
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            Quote: Letun
            What is not from the USA is done in their colonies or by their sixes, so there is no need to compare the warm with the soft.


            “That is not the point.” What is produced, as you put it, "in the colonies" is invented by American engineers and produced under an American license. Unlike the Superjet, which is a shameful page in the history of Russian civil aviation.
      2. EvilLion 21 October 2015 20: 34 New
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        If Tupolev made normal planes on time, then you look and would fly on it. But you don’t need to drive to SSJ, it just flies normally and was created already when the market was divided and redistributed and you have to compete with the whole world. At the same time, the creation of civilian liners by the forces of one state has not been practiced for a long time, and it is hardly possible at all because of the need to obtain the best equipment to ensure competitiveness.

        And before you blather something back, I advise you to get out of your Renault, Frod or whatever is there, and transfer to a VAZ.
  2. DMoroz 21 October 2015 14: 33 New
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    And small civil aviation de facto ordered to live long

    "The total number of airports and airfields in Russia has decreased by five times - from 1450 (in 1991) to 287 (in 2015)."
  3. FID
    FID 21 October 2015 14: 42 New
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    Our airports ... Airplanes of the presidential detachment, for practicing landing in the 3rd category, fly to St. Petersburg or Astana, since only there are radio facilities for landing in the 3rd category (I tactfully keep silent about SHRM, they ask for money there) ... And so called the "international" airports of Voronezh, Ulyanovsk-Central and several other cities ... Yes, they are difficult to accept in the 1st category ... "Visual landing", God forgive me ... They ruined my aircraft industry ... Late to treat the liver when the patient on the mine blew up, late!
    1. aleks 62 next 21 October 2015 15: 23 New
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      .... to practice landing on the 3rd category, they fly to St. Petersburg or Astana, ..... Yes, they hardly accept the 1st category ... "Visual landing", God forgive me ...

      ..... belay ..... Really !! ??? ..... The whole GA flies “visually” ????? ..... Below the lower echelon !! ??? .... laughing
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        FID 21 October 2015 16: 05 New
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        Quote: aleks 62 next
        Really !! ??? ..... The whole GA flies “visually” ????? ..... Below the lower echelon !! ??? ..

        Where did you read it? I wrote about certain "international" airports ... And you can get out of here, but name at least 3 Russian airports that are allowed to instrumental landing in the 3rd category.
        1. aleks 62 next 21 October 2015 16: 48 New
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          .... I wrote about individual "international" airports .....


          .... They used to be separate before the Union .... Aerodromes capable of receiving 1 category (visibility less than 400m, vertical less than 30m — approach in the automatic or semi-automatic mode) were piece-wise (there are more fingers on the hand than them) .. .. Basically, the majority worked in 2 categories (visibility from 400m to 800m, vertical from 30 to 60m) .... Mountain or those located in mountainous areas are a separate topic ..... The truth is that the minimum of the aircraft and the minimum of the FAC are taken into account .. .. But still, at the last stage of landing, you still need visual contact with the ground and landing in manual mode .... hi
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            FID 21 October 2015 18: 08 New
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            Quote: aleks 62 next
            .. But still, at the last stage of landing, you still need visual contact with the ground and landing in manual mode ....

            You lagged behind life ... Categories of landings on the contrary go, 3rd is the most difficult. IL-96 - landing in the machine until the nose rack is compressed (you can steer to the trunk, but our airdromes are not equipped). Tu-204/214 - similarly ... FAC only holds onto the helm ... Therefore, they fly to St. Petersburg, or fly to automatic landing modes in Astana ...
            1. roman_pilot 21 October 2015 20: 08 New
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              Can’t you work out on the simulator?
    2. alicante11 21 October 2015 15: 27 New
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      Our airports ... Airplanes of the presidential detachment, for practicing landing in the 3 category, fly to St. Petersburg or Astana, since only there are radio means of landing in the 3 category


      Excuse me, you want to say that in addition to the ShRM and Peter, we do not have airfields with instrument landing, I understand you correctly?
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        FID 21 October 2015 16: 01 New
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        Right...
  4. propolsky 21 October 2015 14: 43 New
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    Well, God forbid, that at least something will move after the aircraft was “handed over” to the United States in the 90s (Boeing) and Europe (Aerobus). In Russia, aviation should be its own, and not only military. Even Brazil and Canada have their own piece of cake, and we ... Wait.
  5. IAlex 21 October 2015 14: 44 New
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    Ha, ha, ha ... All this we have already gone through three times, in my memory, and when the GDP gave the bear orders to buy domestic aircraft in the ratio of 1: 2 to the airlines. And when they shouted about the need to break the umbilical cord of pseudo-private companies with a state feeder, and when they demanded to increase payments for the dead in order to reduce the purchase of flying garbage abroad ... In general, the cart is still there.

    It is clear to any adequate person that the level of salaries in the Russian Federation is low, especially in the regions, as a result, it is impossible to increase the flow of passengers who will pay for the service of expensive foreign aircraft and airports due to the impoverished internal flow of oil-pumping dollars.
    We need simple airfields and cheap unpretentious domestic aircraft of the IL-114 type which are economical, do not require complicated and expensive repairs, are as autonomous as possible and can fly to shitty airports, including ice ones. Moreover, it is clear to everyone except the government ..
    Well, right, what the hell is he understanding something, if you can buy used trash cans 25 years ago for $ 500.000 by reselling it in the domestic market for 50.000.000, as well as with spare parts and airports ...

    To summarize: you expect something from the ghouls who are able to steal and share, so here they stole public resources, and with these funds they can only buy everything for a cardon.
    In principle, they cannot provide any correct or correct development for aviation, because this is not their profile. Moving forward is always a mistake, it is always a risk and always a loss, but all this is offset by the income received from development. And which of the local embezzlers-traders will risk almost honestly worn-out bulls, investing in what cannot be rolled back and what you don’t understand anything ???
    1. Dembel77 21 October 2015 18: 45 New
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      I agree with you IAlex. As long as there are no normal salaries for hard workers in the country, only a select few will fly on planes, and there are few of them.
  6. dvg79 21 October 2015 14: 45 New
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    The state needs to help those airlines that are ready to buy domestic aircraft, they need interest-free loans for the aviation industry, pilot training for GA also needs to be taken under special control. And it would not hurt to slow down the purchase and leasing of Western aircraft, sanctions however.
  7. NOTaFED 21 October 2015 14: 47 New
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    It would be good to extend all this to the railways. And then Russian Railways stubbornly moves along the rake of civil aviation.
  8. alicante11 21 October 2015 15: 17 New
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    Hmm, and Khabarovsk-Moscow from Aeroflot 11tys. True, in December. For tomorrow 108tyr. But private traders usually fly as planned and can buy tickets in advance. But it was always problematic to fly on business trips, operational tickets are always more expensive.
  9. nazar_0753 21 October 2015 15: 21 New
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    The total number of airports and airfields in Russia has decreased five times - from 1450 (in 1991) to 287 (in 2015). The closure of small but socially significant airports and airfields occurred where there is no alternative to air transport: in Siberia, in the Far East and the Far North. The volume of traffic on local airlines currently accounts for only eight to nine percent of the total number of air passengers in Russia.

    I do not see anything surprising. Such transportations are unprofitable for private companies, which means that they will not exist in a market economy. Until the state takes the liberal branch of government for Faberge, there will be no education, no transport, no industrial production. Only the oil industry and the financial field
    1. Vladimir 1964 21 October 2015 17: 09 New
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      Quote: nazar_0753
      Until the state takes the liberal branch of government for Faberge, there will be no education, no transport, no industrial production


      Dear Nazar, but try to take yourself for this very thing. yes hi

      PS "United Russia" is the most united in Russia. wassat
  10. Rostislav 21 October 2015 15: 22 New
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    A very necessary action!
    They ruined their aircraft industry ... It’s too late to treat the liver, when the patient blew up a mine, it’s too late!

    But you need to! The longest road begins with the first step.
  11. Alex_59 21 October 2015 15: 33 New
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    Gentlemen, still there is still some progress. Here is the first PD-14 on IL-76LL put http://russianplanes.net/id175655
    Next year they promise MS-21 live roll out
    In Ulyanovsk, IL-76 began to produce. If it weren’t for Ukrainians, An-148 and An-140 would fly in abundance (which are actually ours at 90%).
    1991 aircraft were produced at 367 in the territory of the RSFSR, 1996 at 40, 2001 at 28, 2006 at 95, 2011 at 148, and 2014 at 174. We grow, but of course slowly. Although growth is still mainly due to the military.
    Quote: IAlex
    if you can buy 25 trash cans a year ago for 500.000
    S7 and Aeroflot takes the nova, here is a mistake. But still, of course, it’s bad that it’s not ours, but foreign cars, albeit new ones.
    1. IAlex 21 October 2015 15: 44 New
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      Yeah, they only take new ones, and then only according to the documents.
      Well, Aeroflot doesn’t feel sorry for the public account of money for its own sake ...

      And about S7 I spoke about it 5 years ago with their pilot in my park in the evening, their planes were firewood, he said that now he was flying and winding, because flying on them is just scary, and God forbid that he will live to see care ...

      IL-76 is a military transport aircraft, it is being manufactured, is being manufactured and will be produced, incl. this is not an indicator ...
      An-148 is a Khokhlos aircraft, from avionics to engines and open planes, i.e. there are so many of ours there that you can put domestic parts up the hill and look at them with the question of what to do next ...
      Tu-334 - went down in history, for the same reason that the An-148 dviglo turned Khokhlyad ...
      IL-86 - no one else needs it, it was even taken out of the state fleet (aeroflot) into a sedimentation tank, not a competitor at the price of airbases and Boeing 25 old from China with fake documents ...
      SSJ-100 is an imported aircraft with screwdriver assembly for which sales are made, and as a result, even expensive for non-domestic flights, I'm not saying that normal airports are needed for its operation ...
      By the way, your MS-21 will be the same as the SSJ-100, imported and expensive, as a result of which it will not change the situation in the country, except for a further cordyk of remnants of purely domestic industry ...

      Those. no achievements, except for the further collapse of the remnants of the aviation industry ...
      1. Hleb 21 October 2015 15: 58 New
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        he is telling the truth. normal planes today in the S7 and Aeroflot. I got caught in Transaero (but at the airport they can eat for 150 rubles in the canteen)).
        but to be honest, thoughts in flight are visited by one hell of a gloom, and frankly at this moment it’s not up to patriotism, just to land)
        1. IAlex 21 October 2015 16: 01 New
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          My neighbor gave out (now hell knows, probably retired) certificates of airworthiness for airplanes, offer a few $ Lyam, he will write what you want, he doesn’t feel sorry for good people with good grandmothers ...
          1. Hleb 21 October 2015 16: 07 New
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            Well this is for today, but in general it’s a shame, of course, for our aviation industry
      2. Alex_59 21 October 2015 20: 26 New
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        And about S7 I’m 5 years ago with their pilot in my park in the evening as I said
        I don’t know, at one time I was constantly flying S7, their air buses smelled like paint like a new car. Unlike the same Orenair where you can see that the Boeings are shabby. And in general, there are bourgeois sites on the Internet where you can see the entire history of the board by registration, so check for health.
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        IL-76 is a military transport aircraft, it is being released, is being issued and will be produced
        Whatever it was, they let out and will let out ... When the plant in Tashkent said "quack" they weren’t even let out at all, and honestly I thought that it was forever. And here - oops! Ulyanovsk took up and flooded.
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        By the way, your MS-21 will be the same as the SSJ-100, imported and expensive

        Well, if you wave your saber like that, then there is nothing on 100% of your own. Do you think all the Soviet chtoli machines in the factories in which the same Tu-154 did in Soviet times? Fuck there! Japan, Switzerland and Germany! In electronics, even the United States was. Not all, but many machines are imported. And today Boeing aircraft is collecting from our titanium and strength calculations are being made by their Moscow branch - does this mean that our Boeing is chtoli? And the wings for the Airbus A380 where you think riveted? Take an interest, there will be a lot of laughter. Globalization, however. So it goes...
        1. IAlex 22 October 2015 02: 54 New
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          Most importantly, don’t confuse globalization with bananization - both of them usually start the same way in industrial countries, but end differently ... And the Russian Federation has chosen the path that is clearly not globalized, because globalization for developed countries involves the development of some kind of high-tech direction to create something better than other competitors, and assembly from finished parts clearly does not imply any real breakthrough and a new niche in the market ...
      3. pilot bin-bom 21 October 2015 23: 47 New
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        About SSJ-100 and MS-21 stopudovo agree. For example, Belarusians, as they were not pressured, did not buy a single SSJ-100. Why buy an obsolete clone of a Brazilian plane? And now they are carrying on graters with the Brazilians on the idea of ​​becoming regional Brazilian dealers, with the provision of certificates for maintenance and repair.
  12. askort154 21 October 2015 15: 59 New
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    The heart contracts, looking at the current state of GA.
    It all started with the acquisition of imported aircraft, when Shaposhnikov, Okulov and Neradko lobbied for this issue.
    They shouted that it was only 100-150 to buy Boeings, and then we ourselves would rivet everything. As a result, all of our gouging and now completely fly in a strange park. The same situation with the flight crew. Asked 150 foreign pilots,
    now they are asking for 500! Made changes to the Air Code, now this process can not be stopped. Madhouse!
  13. artura0911 21 October 2015 15: 59 New
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    another f-18 fell today in England
  14. chunga-changa 21 October 2015 16: 21 New
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    "Successful" just need to steal less. Then it will be possible to reduce prices, there will be passengers, there will be money and everything else. And if, as in transaero, using connections and deceit to get mind-blowing state money, stealing it and driving a successful company into a hole, there is no way to help.
  15. samoletil18 21 October 2015 16: 25 New
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    Pancake! Something trouble, straight. Or maybe start with a ban on the operation of aircraft with registration in the Bahamas, etc.? Leasing only through Russian banks and insurance with us? Then, you see, the money will appear both on the service, and on import substitution during production (although something is done on SSJ in this direction, judging by their website), and on transportation subsidies.
    Threat. Does anyone know what happened to the Red Wings? These flew on the Tu-204. There were materials that they were going to reanimate, and then silence.
    1. roman_pilot 21 October 2015 19: 24 New
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      Then the tickets will be two times more expensive. People will completely stop flying, and then Ga will surely die.
  16. lazy 21 October 2015 16: 32 New
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    I often used transaero, I liked it, I flew to the Crimea, transfer, and Aeroflot did not provide. I’m afraid that now that Aeroflot will have no competitor, it will raise prices, that even more people will not be able to fly from the Far East to the center of Russia, and ultimately this can have far-reaching consequences. When it is cheaper to fly from Moscow to New York than to Khabarovsk, there is nothing good for the country.
  17. bubla5 21 October 2015 16: 41 New
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    They themselves came up with a crisis, bent the ruble, the population stopped resting over the hill, and the deputies are no longer flying, sanctions, profit has fallen, and there are few domestic flights.
  18. sa-ag 21 October 2015 17: 24 New
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    And what did you hear on IL-112/114, like the money allocated, VASO was supposed to produce, but not hear anything?
    1. IAlex 21 October 2015 18: 55 New
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      The money is being prepared for rospil, together they decided to "upgrade" the IL-114 to 2019 at the expense of state-owned aircraft, and then they will look at the feasibility of issuing ...
  19. gladysheff2010 21 October 2015 17: 38 New
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    It's a shame for GA! Such aircraft were built, dreamed of "tomorrow", and now on the "suction" of Amerian aircraft industry, like beggars on the sidelines angry !
  20. Dr dron 21 October 2015 18: 00 New
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    Yeah, they only take new ones, and then only according to the documents.
    Well, Aeroflot doesn’t feel sorry for the public account of money for its own sake ...

    And about S7 I spoke about it 5 years ago with their pilot in my park in the evening, their planes were firewood, he said that now he was flying and winding, because flying on them is just scary, and God forbid that he will live to see care ...


    Oh, these experts ... Even today, the average age of the S7 fleet is 9,6 years, go check out
    I'm not talking about such a thing as "airworthiness."
    1. IAlex 21 October 2015 18: 59 New
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      Oh, these marketers, if you buy a car of 2000, which has 1000 km on the speedometer, and by sight it has already run 150000 km, but with documents the basement of the service confirming that it really ran 1000 km and went through all the maintenance up to TO5 (for 150000 km), then no matter how marketers and managers would push it, to trusting idiots, it won’t be new ...
  21. artura0911 21 October 2015 18: 09 New
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    Now I wonder what kind of pindos I put a minus in the previous comment?
  22. Dr dron 21 October 2015 18: 15 New
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    I’m wondering what I put a minus for me in the previous comment?

    If you do this to me, then I did not set))), I put it to zero
  23. Dr dron 21 October 2015 18: 31 New
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    Quote: askort154
    The heart contracts, looking at the current state of GA.
    It all started with the acquisition of imported aircraft, when Shaposhnikov, Okulov and Neradko lobbied for this issue.
    They shouted that it was only 100-150 to buy Boeings, and then we ourselves would rivet everything. As a result, all of our gouging and now completely fly in a strange park. The same situation with the flight crew. Asked 150 foreign pilots,
    now they are asking for 500! Made changes to the Air Code, now this process can not be stopped. Madhouse!


    Your inoKVS fled for a long time, the ruble fell and their trace caught a cold)))

    Quote: alicante11
    Our airports ... Airplanes of the presidential detachment, for practicing landing in the 3 category, fly to St. Petersburg or Astana, since only there are radio means of landing in the 3 category


    Excuse me, you want to say that in addition to the ShRM and Peter, we do not have airfields with instrument landing, I understand you correctly?

    Quote: SSI
    Right...


    No, it’s not right, we forgot Domodedovo)))


    Quote: Gleb
    Well this is for today, but in general it’s a shame, of course, for our aviation industry

    It's okay, we used to fly on "farmers" too ... Everything is still not lost ... Although they like to bow down the superjet, but it’s better than nothing, soon the MS-21 is on its way, so look and go for independent production.
    1. roman_pilot 21 October 2015 19: 27 New
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      Your inoKVS fled for a long time, the ruble fell and their trace caught a cold)))

      Fly until the darlings. Czechs basically.
  24. 31rus 21 October 2015 19: 28 New
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    About how deputies adopted the program, and not deputies voted for private companies, and the more the better it is with foreign planes, registrations, remember the scandal when the St. Petersburg airport belonged to my some Greek, and what to find and attract for all this mess, the question is not worth it? Why did everyone see Transaero fall and didn’t do anything, why will the people's money be put into some programs again, where are reports and conclusions, penalties for past programs, where is the state approach true, and not sharing the feeder?
  25. Dr dron 21 October 2015 19: 58 New
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    Quote: roman_pilot
    Quote: Dr Dron
    Your inoKVS fled for a long time, the ruble fell and their trace caught a cold)))

    Fly until the darlings. Czechs basically.

    And a lot of them are still in Aeroflot?
    1. roman_pilot 21 October 2015 21: 07 New
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      I can’t say for sure that they have their own squadron.
  26. rus-5819 21 October 2015 20: 52 New
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    SuperJet from imported components.

    But are Boeings not from imported components? Or is it all made in the United States?

    Let us glorify D. Manturov and M. Poghosyan with him!
    (Who does not know: undertakers of the domestic aviation industry)
  27. onix757 21 October 2015 21: 03 New
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    Articles of this kind can be devoted to any manufacturing industry.
    In the State Duma on a government report:
    - In Ryazan there is a Ryazan machine-tool plant - a unique enterprise that supplied products to 100 of the most developed countries in the world. In recent years, it has declined. There were 10 thousand workers, and there were only 200 people. The production of machine tools has practically ceased, and this is at a time when Russia is buying abroad 94 percent of machine tools, 90 percent of the tool. Where is the import substitution?
    Manturov:
    - Thank you very much for the question.
    So, with regard to the machine tool industry as a whole, quite a lot has been done over the past three years, about 100 odd positions have been accumulated, which are now just intensively commercialized enterprises.
    And, in particular, we hope that the Ryazan plant will also actively engage in this, taking into account the support that our department has, through industry subsidies, as well as through the Industrial Development Fund. This is the first.
    As for, in particular, the Ryazan plant, recently a decision was made by the STAN company to enter the rehabilitation of this enterprise, more than 30 million rubles of loan have already been provided.
    In the near future, the number of employees in the enterprise will increase to 257. And we Count the fact that next year due to, as you rightly said, those orders that are made primarily for this enterprise, so that they can update their main capacities and ensure the fulfillment of orders.
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    And so it is everywhere and about nothing. Everywhere, one formula is bankruptcy, we are counting .., mythical loans, money withdrawal (if they give) and ruins in any situation.
  28. evge-malyshev 21 October 2015 21: 17 New
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    Based on the above, the Public Chamber recommends that the government:

    1. Develop and introduce a draft Federal Law on Amendments to the Air Code in order to bring it in line with the Convention on International Civil Aviation.

    2. Develop and adopt the State Aviation Safety Program (in accordance with the requirements of Annex 19 “Flight Safety Management” to the Convention on International Civil Aviation).

    3. Form the system of state administration and regulation of civil aviation in Russia in accordance with the requirements of ICAO. To form a single body in the format of the Ministry of Civil Aviation or another federal executive body that reports directly to the government of the Russian Federation.

    4. Adopt an updated State Program for the Development of Civil Aviation to 2030, providing for the creation of the necessary legal and economic conditions for solving the problems of civil aviation, linked to the regional development programs of the country, with a detailed “road map” of its implementation for each year.

    5. Develop measures of import substitution and begin their implementation.

    6. Strengthen the training base of universities, flight and technical schools of civil aviation on the basis of increasing funding and updating curricula.

    7. To create the Aviation Collegium under the Government of the Russian Federation, whose competence is to include coordination of the entire technological cycle from the development to the end of the operation of aviation technology in order to cover the areas of activity of all suppliers established by the Flight Safety Management 19 Annex to the Convention on International Civil Aviation.


    There are no modern plants and technologies. In practice, the restoration of production is possible only in Samara, Voronezh and Ulyanovsk. But this requires large investments in technology, engineering, technical and working personnel. And releasing 10-12 turns per year to replace the existing fleet of leasing aircraft, it will take at least 15-20 years. Regrettably, the train left.
  29. pilot bin-bom 21 October 2015 22: 56 New
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    I sincerely sympathize with the Russian brothers. The ideology and practice launched by Marshal Shapashnikov on the collapse of Russian civil aviation has not been stopped.
    We also explain to aviation officials and lawyers that sneezing on the standards of the Annexes to the Convention on International Civil Aviation is not right, it’s very difficult. But we are working. For a year and a half, having created a department for studying the directions of development of air transport, a number of regulatory documents were developed from scratch.
    Aviation Rules:
    - “Construction of the visual flight scheme and instrument flights. Conventional flight procedures. Schemes using zonal navigation and schemes based on satellite systems. Helicopters Approach using the landing system ";
    - “The list of terms, their definitions and abbreviations used in the civil aviation of the Republic of Belarus” (taking into account the introduction of modern technical means into the production process);
    - “Requirements for the meteorological support of civil aviation in the Republic of Belarus” (taking into account the quality system, training of specialists, taking into account the human factor, etc.);
    - “The procedure for the installation, registration and operation of emergency radio beacons of the International satellite system COSPAS-SARSAT on civil aircraft of the Republic of Belarus”;
    - “The procedure for the recognition of certificates such as means and systems of air navigation services and equipment of civil aviation aerodromes”;
    "Organization of search and rescue support for flights in civil aviation" (in development);
    - “Radio-technical support of flights and aviation telecommunication of civil aviation of the Republic of Belarus” (under development).
    Regulations:
    - The Flight Safety Program of the Republic of Belarus (in accordance with the standards of Appendix 19 to the Convention on International Civil Aviation in order to further develop safety oversight processes and achieve an acceptable level of effectiveness in ensuring the safety of civil aviation);
    Strategy for the innovative development of air transport for the period until 2030.
    We continue the work, if the specialists are interested, I can throw a link to the developer's site.
    1. aviamed90 22 October 2015 16: 23 New
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      pilot bin-bom

      And you read our FAP “Organization of Air Traffic in the Russian Federation” (Approved by order of the Ministry of Transport of Russia from 25.11.2011. No.293), which were composed according to ICAO standards and all questions will immediately disappear.

      I have never had to read more delirium in my life.

      And this is not the only example.
      1. aviamed90 22 October 2015 17: 04 New
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        pilot bin-bom

        Forget the famous AKP and NPP.

        Here are our achievements:

        - The introduction of a vertical separation system based on feet (according to ICAO standards) above the transition height. Moreover, below the transition level, the vertical separation system is measured in meters. Cool? Why not in parrots?

        - the abolition of the norms of longitudinal and lateral separation and the introduction of a single value for them - 10 km. The consequence is a sharp increase in the dangerous proximity of aircraft.

        - the future (soon) complete abolition of the measurement of heights and distances in meters and kilometers and the transition to feet and nautical miles (can you imagine what a mess will begin?). For the Air Force this is generally unacceptable, because Prnk, conditions of BP ASP, etc. - everything is in the metric system. In addition, you have to recycle ALL documentation regarding the organization and execution of flights, air traffic control, etc. (for example, all obstacle heights, approach patterns, etc.). The amount of work ahead is not impressive?

        - the introduction of PIO (flight information services) for flights below the lower echelon and the abolition of the MVL network (in most regions and EU air traffic control areas). As a result, accident rate increased due to this mess and a mountain of corpses continued to grow.

        - refusal to use airfield pressure (QFE) and a complete transition to pressure reduced to sea level (QNH), and not mm Hg. Art., and in GPa.

        - stupid and limited personnel policy (for example, in some centers the average age of dispatchers is 53 years). No comment. At the same time, toughening the requirements for health, knowledge of the English language (4 level of ICAO) and professional training (passing, in fact, "exams" when renewing certificates and the CCP).

        But this is not the limit!
        There are other examples - colleagues will confirm.

        Only one question remains - "WHY?" For what purpose?

        In general, it is not clear - why break a system that works properly?
        And the goal, in my opinion, is one - to master ("wash") the money.
  30. dmmyak40 22 October 2015 14: 44 New
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    While aviation is led by "effective managers" - aviation will be in the pen, because these gentlemen are only interested in profit, not transport safety. In the USSR, only a person from the flight crew could lead an OAO - a united air squad (air squad + ATB and other ground services). Even if not the best pilot or pilot, but he must understand the specifics of flying work.
    Yes, in the USSR there was also a lot of mess and irresponsibility, but in the concept of aviation, everything was fine.
    All flying weather, at least 800/60.