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Russian Su-35 vs. Eurofighter: Who Will Win?

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Tensions in Europe due to Russian actions in Ukraine are intensifying, and under these conditions, NATO countries intensified air patrols in the skies over the Baltic states - Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Although the United States Air Force often uses its aircraft to control the airspace over these former Soviet republics, sometimes the task of deterring Moscow falls on the products of European aviation firms.


Many countries in Europe, including the United Kingdom, Germany, Italy and Spain, in aviation Prefer the Eurofighter Typhoon multirole fighter. Initially, it was developed exclusively as a fighter for gaining superiority in the air. The Typhoon behaves excellently in aerial combat. In the unlikely event of a conflict, a European fighter will most likely survive and win the battle with Sukhoi’s latest generation aircraft, such as the Su-35S. Both the Russian and the European aircraft have their own advantages, but in general they are quite comparable.

Russian Su-35 vs. Eurofighter: Who Will Win?

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Recently, the pilots of the Typhoon from the Royal Air Force, who received combat training together with the pilots of the Indian Air Force at the Russian Su-30MKI, found out. “The first impression of the“ Flanker ”(NATO codification) is very positive,” commander Chris Moon, the commander of the 3 (fighter) squadron, said in his statement. “This is a great plane, and working with him on our Typhoon is a privilege.”

Indians "Typhoon" is also impressed, and they noticed that both machines are approximately equal in capabilities. “Both are fourth generation airplanes, and therefore correspond to each other in many characteristics. Therefore, the value of training lies in the personal contacts of the pilots, ”said Aviation Major Aviation, Major Aviation, in a statement to the Royal Air Force. “The man who drives the car is most important.”

As noted by Arya, most fourth-generation fighters, such as the Su-35 and Typhoon, have similar characteristics. Pilots flying these planes must learn to fly them to their limits. This means that they need to use their strengths to the maximum and avoid their weaknesses.

As for the Su-35, it is perfectly manageable at low speeds due to the variable thrust vectoring, which negates the advantages of the Typhoon, such as a very high angular speed of rotation and excellent thrust-to-weight ratio. At the same time, he has a large angle of attack. It acts in much the same way as the pilots of the Air Force and the US Navy on their F / A-18 Hornet and F-15 Eagle machines conduct training battles with the “Typhoons” at a distance of visibility. A lot here depends on the pilot and on luck.

Outside the visual range, the technique plays a more prominent role, but in this case tactics, the level of training and the order of actions are the key points. Fighter groups must interact with each other, as well as with AWACS aircraft and ground controllers. One senior US Air Force instructor gave this example. If a group of four F-15 fights with another group of four F-15 using standard tactics, if there are no errors, the fight will end in a draw. Moreover, such tactics pilots are usually kept secret. For example, US Air Force units do not demonstrate their most advanced tactics at international exercises, so as not to expose them to the risk of exposure.

As for technology, neither the Su-35 nor the Typhoon are currently equipped with an automatic electronic scanning antenna array, but both have good opportunities for conducting combat operations beyond the visual range. Both fighters have high speed and high altitude, and therefore can give a tremendous energy to launch their airborne weapons in such a battle. But it is not known how effective the Russian identification systems are in combat conditions, but you need to know exactly what you are shooting at. Further, Typhoon has an excellent cockpit and a pilot-machine interface is much better than the current Flanker variants.

The euroinstaller has one more advantage. In the coming years, the British Air Force will adopt the MBDA Meteor long-range air-to-air guided missile. This rocket with a sustainer-jet propulsion engine is quite possibly the best in its class to attack targets outside the visual range. She has excellent characteristics in the final segment of the flight, and this rocket can become the trump card of the Typhoon pilots - at least until the Russians invent it to be equal.

There is no doubt that Russian planes have come a long way since the end of the Cold War. Su-30 and especially Su-35 are excellent fighters capable in the event of war to create a lot of problems to the western vehicles of the fourth generation. Still, Russian aircraft are lagging behind in such aspects as detection devices and pilot-machine interfaces. Therefore, Typhoon has more chances to win.
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  1. Magic archer
    Magic archer 25 October 2015 06: 59 New
    +53
    To be honest, this expert has already REACHED! Just the other day, he compared the Su-30СМ and Raptop, before that he had tanks and many more “smart” opuses in the spirit of the Discovery channel! negative
    1. War and Peace
      War and Peace 25 October 2015 08: 06 New
      +33
      Is it possible to compare such aircraft?
      -su35 empty weight -18 tons
      typhoon -11 tons

      -su35 ammunition load -8 tons
      -typhoon ammunition load -6 tons

      Radius Su35 -1600km (with full load or as an exterminator?)
      Radius Tiphun (full load) -600km
      (incomplete exterminator) -1400km


      http://www.best-army.ru/archives/288
      http://army-world.ru/?page_id=813
      1. Ruslan
        Ruslan 25 October 2015 08: 10 New
        +48
        why are you all so evil? :) a man is engaged in complacency in order to overcome depression from the awareness of the superiority of Russian fighters! :)
        1. Alexy
          Alexy 26 October 2015 04: 28 New
          +4
          Hindus need to somehow justify the refusal to purchase Russian aircraft in favor of, for example, French mirages. And so - pure politics. And what can be expected from the British Chaldeans?
      2. Aleks28
        Aleks28 25 October 2015 08: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: war and peace
        Is it possible to compare such aircraft?

        I agree that I’ve fucked up in Russian (in the German media this news has long passed)
        A manufacturing defect in the rear of the fuselage was discovered on an Eurofighter Typhoon fighter, Defense News reported September 30, citing a statement from the German Ministry of Defense. This news was another blow to an expensive program. As a result, Berlin decided to halve its annual flying time - from 3000 to 1500 hours. It is reported that this defect can lead to instability of the aircraft in the air.

        Source: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/ef-2000-typhoon-2014/ MTC "BASTION" AVKarpenko
        1. science fiction writer
          science fiction writer 25 October 2015 09: 22 New
          +23
          I searched and did not find an interview for one GDR flyer flying on MIG-29,
          he gave it for the BATTLE OF FIGHT about the MIG-29 aircraft who can find it harder.
          That's what he said all these Mirages, Fighters2000, Eurofighters - 29MIH for warm-up, a snack for breakfast.
          And this expert decided to compare the SU-35 of the BREEDY YOUNG RYSK with the forever sick donkey laughing
          1. SokolfromRussia
            SokolfromRussia 25 October 2015 11: 17 New
            0
            For objectivity's sake, remember the battles over Yugoslavia in 1999. Unfortunately, the MiG-29 didn’t show itself well.
            1. science fiction writer
              science fiction writer 25 October 2015 12: 28 New
              +7
              Based on the fact that in Yugoslavia there were 16pcs MIG29 (by the spring of 1999, 13 fighters and two UBS remained in service).

              On March 27, at 20.45 in the sky of Yugoslavia, an MiG-29 fighter from the Vityaz squadron piloted by Lt. Col. Gwoden Dyukáč shot down an unobtrusive Lockheed Martin F-117A Nighthook attack aircraft. According to the Serbian pilot, the “Stele” was destroyed at night after it was discovered by the very first air-to-air missile (obviously the R-60MsTGS). On March 26, the Yugoslav Air Force announced the destruction of two F-15C aircraft in air battles (this information was partially confirmed by video frames). Obviously, the last victory in the air war in the Balkans was won by Serbian fighter aircraft on May 20: according to the Yugoslav media, Major Iliya Arizanov shot down the American F-117A (if this information is true, Major Arizanov became the only pilot of the Balkan war who achieved two victories in air).


              Major Iliya Arizanov from the Vityaz squadron received a departure order at 19.00. After practicing guidance commands, he entered a large group of enemy aircraft flying in the opposite direction. The Serbian pilot, having completed an energetic U-turn, went into the tail of an enemy fighter and launched a rocket. The NATO fighter went into a tailspin and crashed to the ground, but the Yugoslav plane, which received a missile hit, caught fire. Major Arizanov managed to eject safely. Already on earth, he watched the wreckage of an enemy fighter shot down by him, whose pilot, obviously, could not escape, burned out (in the early days of the war, the NATO Air Force lost several F-16, F / A-18 and Tornado aircraft, most of whose crew members died


              At 20.30 on March 24, Lt. Col. Lubisha Kulachin from the Vityaz squadron took off his MiG-29 with the task of covering up the plane of Major Nebojši Nikolic, shot down by NATO fighters during a patrol flight of the borders of Serbia (even before the official start of hostilities). Kulachin conducted a maneuverable air battle with several enemy fighters for 15 minutes, after which he safely landed at the alternate aerodrome.

              During an air battle, Neboisha Nikolic at 20.35 was shot down by a NATO fighter of the F-16 type, which fell into the Adriatic Sea (the pilot was picked up by helicopter from a French aircraft carrier). The Serbian pilot, covered by L. Kulachin, managed to get out of the battle, breaking away from the enemy, but he had to leave a heavily damaged car in the air.


              So the 15 Yugoslav MIGs like a huge nail in jo..e had USkal.
              1. SokolfromRussia
                SokolfromRussia 25 October 2015 19: 05 New
                +7
                Sorry, but this is a fairy tale.

                F-117 was shot down by anti-aircraft gunners of the 250 Brigade. Throughout the war, the Serbs were able to show the wreckage of only two aircraft. Both were shot down by the 250 Brigade of Air Defense. Both aircraft are documented - debris presented.

                Well, a few UAVs and a bunch of cruise missiles.
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            3. Alexy
              Alexy 26 October 2015 04: 30 New
              0
              Well, recall the air battles over Yugoslavia. And then I forgot something.
          2. tiheros
            tiheros 26 October 2015 01: 44 New
            +5
            This summer I had a chance to talk with a former Gdrovskiy pilot, people are already retired. He had a chance to fly on many European planes and for a moment. From his words, they say it’s convenient and comfortable to fly on these fighters. But if you fight, it’s only in an instant, because These aircraft are designed specifically for war and not for extreme walks.
      3. sssla
        sssla 25 October 2015 14: 15 New
        +7
        Quote: war and peace
        Is it possible to compare such aircraft?

        If you put a bibbian at the Su-35 helm, then the ace will also knock her onto the Po-2 That's the whole comparison!
      4. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 26 October 2015 06: 33 New
        +3
        Pilots are fighting, not planes.
      5. VP
        VP 5 November 2015 17: 04 New
        0
        Regarding comparisons ...
        Sorry if such an article already existed.
        Training fights of Russian and Western aircraft
        http://chervonec-001.livejournal.com/964001.html
    2. JACTUS RECTUS
      JACTUS RECTUS 25 October 2015 11: 09 New
      +8
      Now you can just look at the author’s name before reading, if Dave Majumdar, you can safely go further. The same as American films: - “Shoot him in the stern (Tiger), there the armor is thinner (according to the American tanker observing the Tiger aboard 10 meters from myself) !!! "The film" Rage ".
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 25 October 2015 13: 08 New
        +6
        In my opinion, Eurofighter Typhoon is a crude machine. Not for nothing half of the available, as reported, Berlin machines on the earth produce their resources. wink
        Judging by the front wings (PGO, in my opinion), it should be better than the MiG-29 in a maneuver. But the pilots say that this is not so. hi
        1. sssla
          sssla 25 October 2015 20: 03 New
          0
          Quote: Kasym
          In my opinion, Eurofighter Typhoon is a crude machine.

          It's just that everyone has a short memory and forgot how much information about defects Super Typer Typhunenka passed after it was adopted
      2. sssla
        sssla 25 October 2015 20: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: JACTUS RECTUS
        Now you can just look at the author’s name before reading if Dave Majumdar

        He needs to change his surname to Kumar!
    3. alexej123
      alexej123 25 October 2015 15: 10 New
      +2
      That's right, compared the Su-30СМ and the Raptor. Now they compare the Su-35 (as I understand more advanced Su-30) and Typhoon. My opinion is that they mantle, calm themselves. For what? Anticipate the war?
    4. alexej123
      alexej123 25 October 2015 15: 10 New
      0
      That's right, compared the Su-30СМ and the Raptor. Now they compare the Su-35 (as I understand more advanced Su-30) and Typhoon. My opinion is that they mantle, calm themselves. For what? Anticipate the war?
    5. Welcome to hell
      Welcome to hell 25 October 2015 16: 28 New
      +5
      yes damn how you can always confuse su30mki and su35s, these are different cars, su35 is in many ways superior to su 30mki, yes our su30cm is better than su30mki in on-board equipment
    6. yugan
      yugan 25 October 2015 20: 14 New
      +5
      There was already an article by this pseudo specialist, it seems like everyone there was already noted with spits and very specific reasoning based on knowledge. However, I’m interested in the question - who posted these articles on this site? A modest person, apparently, but I would like to ask him a couple of questions, not about the articles, but about the goals pursued. I think that it is necessary to know what is written on the other side of the hill. But, posting a similar article, it would be true to analyze some of the "pearls" written there. Otherwise, it looks stupidly a provocation. Everything is subjective of course, but the opponent is not.
    7. GSH-18
      GSH-18 26 October 2015 13: 47 New
      +2
      Russian Su-35 vs. Eurofighter: Who Will Win?

      In my opinion this is a rhetorical question. Su-35y is out of competition here! yes good
    8. GSH-18
      GSH-18 26 October 2015 13: 53 New
      +2
      Recently, pilots of Typhoons from the Royal Air Force, who underwent combat training together with pilots of the Indian Air Force in Russian, found this out. Sioux 30MKI. “The first impression of Flanker (the NATO codification) is very positive,” said Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Chris Moon, commander of the 3rd (fighter) squadron, in his statement. “This is a great aircraft, and working with him on our Typhoon is a privilege.”

      Not understood? What does the Su-30MKI? When the article says:
      Russian Su-35 against Eurofighter: who will win?

      Moreover, the Indians EXPORT option!
    9. samoletil18
      samoletil18 28 October 2015 14: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Magic Archer
      ! Active paper scraper

      If a typhoon is necessary to Indians, then the article will be about the fact that it is the best, and if you lobby for an increase in the military budget, then 10 typhoons with a lot of luck will be able to take their feet off one Su-27, and even against the Su-35 - complete defeat.
      This is called promoting the desired result through the media.
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  2. PlotnikoffDD
    PlotnikoffDD 25 October 2015 06: 59 New
    +15
    Who looked at the author immediately! Immediately ceased to doubt the victory of “Typhoon”)))
    1. Wheel
      Wheel 25 October 2015 08: 00 New
      +11
      Already by the title it’s immediately clear who the author is and who will “win”
  3. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 25 October 2015 07: 13 New
    +8
    The author is dumb, of course ..... Comparison of Eurofighter with the Su-35 is simply incorrect, it would be compared with the MiG35, although it’s clear that Russian planes are very weak compared to high-tech and advanced Europe. when they will adopt a new Pincec rocket full of everything! So we continue to be afraid)))
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn 25 October 2015 09: 26 New
      0
      to be afraid - and to force the development of more modern weapons ... if only not to fly into the arms race.
      Another question is that the same Indians drove Velbrits at 21 instants, of course improved on exercises. But hope for such happiness is not worth it.
    2. avt
      avt 25 October 2015 10: 15 New
      +4
      Quote: Dimon19661
      Author dunce of course ....

      Quote: Creosote
      The confused text is somehow on the "bad" ...

      Yes, you, oooo! The author, this can be seen by name, the genetic descendant of the carriers of secret knowledge about flying vimanas! wassat Who else but him should argue then on such topics-oh-p-th and about nothing in particular. laughing
  4. Igor39
    Igor39 25 October 2015 07: 15 New
    +17
    We must ask the author to write an article about comparing a member with a tram handle, about the advantages and disadvantages of both laughing , it would be interesting to read his comparison laughing
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 25 October 2015 08: 05 New
      +2
      I think in his article on comparison, to have a tram handle from an American tram is much better than having a good member in your pants. laughing laughing laughing
  5. Creosote
    Creosote 25 October 2015 07: 22 New
    +3
    The confused text is somehow "unsuccessful" ... but C300 wins.
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 25 October 2015 10: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: Creosote
      The confused text is somehow "unsuccessful" ... but C300 wins.

      - Valiko, if your helicopter and a large plane are connected in one chain! Who will win?-
      -Chain! - (Ts. Mimino)
  6. andrei.yandex
    andrei.yandex 25 October 2015 07: 43 New
    +4
    Compare the Su-35 and Eurofighter. It is not correct initially, since the Su-35 is a heavy fighter and its capabilities are wider than the middle class fighter, to which Eurofighter belongs. Accordingly, the radar and all kinds of defense and attack means and the TTX of the Su-35 are higher, therefore, the probability of winning the Su-35 is higher, especially since the Su-27 platform on which it was made was already superior to competitors.
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 25 October 2015 09: 33 New
      +8
      Quote: andrei.yandex
      Compare the Su-35 and Eurofighter. It is not correct initially, since the Su-35 is a heavy fighter and its capabilities are wider than the middle class fighter, to which Eurofighter belongs.


      It is also incorrect to compare them because Eurofighter entered the combat units more than 10 years ago. And the Su-35С entered service relatively recently, most of these fighters are operated in “test mode” in the 23 IAP, which is based on at the same airport as the manufacturer in Komsomolsk, which allows, if necessary, to promptly make improvements and eliminate "children's sores."

      Currently, the Su-35C for a number of reasons is not yet able to use the entire range of weapons. Minister of Defense S.K. Shoigu instructed to solve this problem before the end of the year.
      1. ancient
        ancient 25 October 2015 10: 17 New
        +5
        Quote: Bongo
        It is also incorrect to compare them because


        Seryozha, hi! And I didn’t even read ... I immediately put the MINUS article soldier
        Why waste time reading this .. "opus"? wink
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 25 October 2015 10: 27 New
          +5
          Hello to you too! No, I specifically forced myself to read. wassat In places, he even laughed ... laughing Thanks to such "masterpieces" I took up the pen.

          Two parts about Su-24 have been “unpublished” for several days now. request Yesterday, after reading the "masterpiece" of this author, I took up writing a comparative analysis about the F-15E and Su-34. Moreover, I’m sitting at home, our snow fell, it froze and the “tinsmith’s day” arrived.

          You don’t know when finally the long-range missiles will arrive on the Su-35С?
  7. Aleksandr72
    Aleksandr72 25 October 2015 07: 55 New
    +5
    Dave Majumdar:
    Although the Su-30SM is a very efficient fourth-generation fighter, it has no chance against the Raptor, especially if the air battle is out of line of sight. The F-22 has advantages in literally all respects except for range and combat load. The combination of stealth and detection devices will lead to the fact that Russian aircraft are likely to be destroyed before their pilots realize that they have become a target.

    - article http://topwar.ru/84774-su-30sm-if-22-dostoinstva-i-nedostatki.html
    There is no doubt that Russian planes have come a long way since the end of the Cold War. Su-30 and especially Su-35 are excellent fighters capable in the event of war to create a lot of problems to the western vehicles of the fourth generation. Still, Russian aircraft are lagging behind in such aspects as detection devices and pilot-machine interfaces. Therefore, Typhoon has more chances to win.

    - current article.
    That's no more, no less: the F-22 is a prodigy that has no equal, the Eurofighter Typhoon is an excellent fighter for gaining superiority in the air (it does not matter that the British Air Force is considering the decommissioning of this type of aircraft of the first series,
    In accordance with today's plans, by 2019 three squadrons from Tornado will be reduced (87 aircraft), then all the remaining 53 Typhoon Tranche 1 fighters will be decommissioned.

    On the Su-30, you say, why is it so bad? What kind of questions will be answered by expert D. Majumdar, this is a Russian plane, which means a priori is worthless, and generally not kosher. It’s in the style of Discovery Channel.
    I have already said that you should not pay attention to this "specialist", it does not deserve it (it is this brown one that smells like it! laughing ) of that.
    I have the honor.
  8. SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 25 October 2015 08: 17 New
    +4
    This dave spoils my 2nd weekend in a row. Anka machine gunners are not enough for him!
  9. Neo1982
    Neo1982 25 October 2015 08: 51 New
    +10
    detection range of the SU-35 is greater
    1. evge-malyshev
      evge-malyshev 25 October 2015 11: 39 New
      +3
      Litovkin laid on the blades of Majumdar with specific characteristics, and not just blah blah: "the typhoon will win."
  10. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 25 October 2015 09: 11 New
    +11
    Guys, why are you out of your mind drinks ! These "analytics" and "expert" I also can not stand. BUT! This is the fruit of a Western mentality, he writes for Western eyes and ears. How much the people there are inadequate - we all know. And they were still intimidated by various threats lol Therefore, the western man reading the opuses of this "analyst" will take everything at face value. he will not be able to distinguish between different weight categories compared by the sample, possible different birth dates and other inconsistencies that radically change the attitude towards the results. He (the western man in the street) must believe what they say to him, he should not think. That is why such comparisons are written! They are not intended for thinking people, especially if these people are hypothetically considered enemies. They are written to strengthen faith in their “wanderafles.” And we read such nonsense because we need to know the enemy in person, his methods, so that as a result of comparing attitudes towards our electorate, we could trace the moral stability of the population.
    That’s why such comparisons evoke more of a smile and sympathy for a flawed western man in the street when he’s so “shod” laughing
    Personally, my opinion hi The problem always needs to be looked broader, then incomprehensible at first glance absurdities will become clear .... lol
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 26 October 2015 01: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: Rurikovich
      the enemy must be known in person, his methods, so that as a result of comparison ... Therefore, such comparisons cause us more likely to smile and sympathy for the flawed western man in the street when they’re so
      Very well noticed! But what to do when an air duel is played not by Russians, capable of flying even on a poker, but by Indians who have never been Asian ases (not to mention the world!) Level?
      And here Murzilka came up with a great excuse!
      A lot here depends on the pilot and on luck. If a group of four F-15s engage in air combat with another group of four F-15s using standard tactics, then in the absence of errors, the fight will end in a draw. Moreover, such tactics pilots usually keep secret. For example, the US Air Force units do not demonstrate their most advanced tactics in international exercises, so as not to expose them to the risk of exposure.
      That's it - cheap and cheerful! According to the principle: we were put on our heads, but we know that we will put this ambal in a secret trick if things get big ... Therefore, we were beaten by the Indians, we lost to the Russians when they visited Langley.
      In the summer of 1992, our Su-27 unit, by agreement with the American side, landed at Langley air base, where the best US F-15 fighters were based. After mutual acquaintance, our pilots proposed a training battle. The Americans were cautious. Organizing a duel over the airfield in front of journalists, apparently, seemed to them a risky business. The challenge was accepted, but on the condition that the battle take place over the Atlantic Ocean - 200 kilometers from the coast. The training battle scheme was developed quite simple. For starters, the Su-27 was supposed to stay on the tail of the F-15. Then the planes had to change places. The American plane immediately tried to tear itself away from our fighter in full afterburner. But it was not there. At minimum afterburner, the Su-27 easily "got" the American. Switched places. The Su-27 immediately left the F-15 in a U-turn. After making several maneuvers, he fell in the tail of the American. The F-15 pilot lost sight of our fighter. He helplessly turned on the radio to the pilot of the observer aircraft: “Where is the Flenker?” (NATO classification is codenamed Su-27). “He is behind you,” was the answer. All attempts by the American ace to come off ended in failure. Our pilot held it securely in a missile sight.
      But the American, even in fear of the shame of national humiliation! secret reception - did not give out! What time!
  11. Rigla
    Rigla 25 October 2015 09: 17 New
    +10
    Before reading the article, the first thing that looked was who the author was. It immediately became clear that this is another nonsense. I read the article of a 14-year-old (!!!) guy from Colorado, well, that’s just that the boy is passionate about aviation, so I’ll honestly read out (there are also comparisons), very competently and interestingly painted, I was pleasantly surprised. And here the ADULT person writes lol
    We are waiting for a new article from this author, where P51 Mustang will emerge victorious from the battle with SU35 laughing
    1. Dark mol
      Dark mol 25 October 2015 09: 46 New
      +5
      Well, it will! The patrol time is longer, the turning radius is shorter, the number of sorties per day is longer, and the cost is simply incomparable! )))
  12. tomket
    tomket 25 October 2015 09: 38 New
    +2
    Yes, the Hindus were so impressed by the “Typhoon” that they won with him with the score 12: 0)))) Apot declared about “equal” opportunities))))))
  13. X Y Z
    X Y Z 25 October 2015 09: 40 New
    +2
    The article is clearly intended for the western citizen and is focused on the local market. Against the backdrop of the success of Russian weapons in Syria, it was necessary to show that, yes, Russian weapons are good. But you just do not yet know our advanced Western weapons. And it is approximately the same in terms of characteristics, but to some extent it is still better and when meeting with the Russians, it will be difficult.
    The article reminds me of some pills for nerves and for a good sleep + advertising for Asian markets. It is not possible to take it seriously, due to the lack of specific characteristics and adequate, honest comparisons. As a result, it turned out something like an enthusiastic institute more like a black-handed hussar, rather than a blond lancer. But only.
    1. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 25 October 2015 15: 05 New
      +1
      We have different Teachers, and people of a different sort turned out, after we saw more, we will survive, if that.
  14. Dark mol
    Dark mol 25 October 2015 09: 43 New
    +2
    What is this stupid agitation? And there is nothing that the author slightly jumps from the Su-30 to the Su-36 and vice versa? And the fact that all the fight Eurofighter purged the Indian version of the Su-30? And with Indian pilots? And what about the Su-35 radar power as a link Eurofater? etc.
  15. GEORGE
    GEORGE 25 October 2015 09: 50 New
    +6
    Quote: Magic Archer
    To be honest, this expert has already REACHED! Just the other day, he compared the Su-30СМ and Raptop, before that he had tanks and many more “smart” opuses in the spirit of the Discovery channel! negative

    Along the way, this Indian writes scripts for Bollywood ... fellow
    1. tomket
      tomket 25 October 2015 10: 33 New
      +3
      Quote: GEORGE
      Along the way, this Indian writes scripts for Bollywood ...

      Emmmm .... Pilots of "Typhoons" striding along the take-off to the "Eurofighter" suddenly rush to the dance and start to sing?))))
    2. thinker
      thinker 25 October 2015 10: 54 New
      +1
      He is supposed to write this by post: author, Dave Majumdar - American military expert, editor of the military problems department of the information resource The National Interest. hi
      1. tomket
        tomket 25 October 2015 11: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: thinker
        editor of the military problems department of the information resource The National Interest.

        If they have such editors, then we have a simple sofa forumite versed in technology at the level of God .....
      2. Usher
        Usher 18 March 2017 23: 40 New
        0
        This is not an expert, but some kind of autistic.
  16. gorez.69
    gorez.69 25 October 2015 10: 00 New
    +7
    Zadolbil this silly clown, in the course he is not Dave Majumdar, but Dave "Raskumar"
  17. 0255
    0255 25 October 2015 10: 11 New
    +2
    Video for the author of the article:
  18. Rich-ksy
    Rich-ksy 25 October 2015 11: 15 New
    +1
    At least a small plate with the TTX of the compared samples. And then I do not understand a military motorist some moments of flight characteristics
  19. SokolfromRussia
    SokolfromRussia 25 October 2015 11: 21 New
    +3
    The author states that a lot depends on the pilot. Great :) For almost a month and a half, I watched the training of our fighter pilots daily, which was almost continuous and very intense. I am sure the guys will not fail in the case of contact with the "Eurovoin".
  20. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 25 October 2015 12: 14 New
    +1
    F-35 was too expensive even for the USA.
    The author, Dave Majumdar, is great and the first from the end, convince us that f 35 can handle ... At least with someone. Senate FFSA honors your creation and will listen to you. Our analytic engineers and Echsperts have already listened to you. Personally, with one sign, he says tomorrow everything will be rolled up. I asked you to convey, they are waiting for new articles from you in the field of astronomy. Our doubts about the structure of the solar system and in general. Help fsh, "Good man." We are waiting and praying. Open our eyes to the great and the first from the end.
  21. yan 2015
    yan 2015 25 October 2015 12: 47 New
    0
    I will have a request .. don’t post the opinion of this activist here. since his opinion is obviously biased. not an expert, but some kind of a fantasy.
    1. alleksSalut4507
      alleksSalut4507 25 October 2015 15: 09 New
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      Quote: yan 2015

      yan 2015 Today, 12:47 ↓
      I will have a request .. don’t post the opinion of this activist here. since his opinion is obviously biased. not an expert, but some kind of a fantasy.

      maybe he just throws a pebble into the water and watches how the circles diverge, from London or From New York?
  22. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 25 October 2015 12: 54 New
    0
    I do not understand why such bogies on the site on Sunday to spread? It is likely that people would sooner wake up from the day before yesterday and yesterday. Congratulations, judging by the reaction and reader comments, this was 100% successful. good
  23. CRASH
    CRASH 25 October 2015 13: 22 New
    -7
    Eurofighter will win, he is a light fighter
    1. Alec_s
      Alec_s 25 October 2015 13: 48 New
      +5
      Really ... Well, PO-2, in turn, will simply break the Eurofighter, it’s even easier wassat
      1. CRASH
        CRASH 25 October 2015 20: 50 New
        -4
        I153 piston biplane, shot down a ME262 turbojet, funny? Eurofighter in the "dog fight" lowered the raptor, what also prevents the lowering of the su30-35? Vata in the head and urapatriotizm.
        1. gg.na
          gg.na 26 October 2015 09: 51 New
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          Well, if these planes are so cool ... wassat Please, let them rock the boat and it will already be visible who is worth what! wink Or something scary belay rock the boat ??! wassat
  24. SashOK
    SashOK 25 October 2015 14: 32 New
    +2
    And Mithun Chakraborty as Eurofighter pilot
  25. Samarin
    Samarin 25 October 2015 15: 42 New
    +3
    Posted by Dave Majumdar

    "author", move on to the camels
  26. the most important
    the most important 25 October 2015 15: 55 New
    +2
    Not an article, but a straight balm for the European ear !! That's just perfect far from reality !!!
  27. Finntroll
    Finntroll 25 October 2015 17: 03 New
    +2
    The results of training battles of our Su and Foreign birds in the Studio! )
  28. NIKNN
    NIKNN 25 October 2015 18: 26 New
    +4
    I have already commented on an article by this writer Su30 vs F22. Excuse me, I’ll repeat the comment without corrections. the point is that it’s incorrect to compare planes in isolation from other factors and it doesn’t matter if the “typhoon” is “eurofighter” or someone else, because
    1. All comparisons given in both articles are conditional to the extent of discussion in kindergarten since compares data from the press, rather than the actual characteristics of aircraft and equipment.
    2. The battle conditions are given 1 on 1 and it is not known where.
    Given the fact that the Su30 due to the weak avionics (and who said that it is weak) will not even see the "raptor" while it knocks it down, the author -> author -> the author completely forgot that the enemy detects the ground radar or AWACS first and only then a fighter is aimed at the target, so that the "invisible" raptor has no advantages here. Today, there are detection stations not by radar radiation, but by the operation of any REO, including any avionics element, and covers an area of ​​400 km radius. (Such have already been delivered to Moscow and give target designation to electronic warfare systems for counteraction.) I don’t even consider the option that you can only be invisible in a narrow wavelength range, but for example for decimeter or meter wavelengths it is not particularly invisible.
    The next factor in the range of destruction is the presence on board of the appropriate weapons and the range of its use. And even if you have three times negative visibility, but all long-range aerial combat missiles have an active seeker, it’s more than expensive to put an AFAR with a system similar to the one on the raptor that processes and identifies the signals. And therefore, it glows oh-oh and applying to it both boron electronic warfare and other means of jamming is not so difficult (although not so simple).
    Taking into account the launch range (and the launch range of 120 km is an advertisement), it is real 60–70 km and the approach speed of a kilometer per second, the advantages of long-range missile milking are minuscule in time, but then the shortcomings of a flat nozzle and the absence of melee missiles with helmet-mounted target designation go forward because no one can capture the TGSN from the internal weapons compartment, and if there are missiles on the external sling, little remains of STELS's advantages.
    I did not identify all aspects, did not take into account the tactics, did not consider the interaction with the land (sea) air defense zones, which is necessarily present and much more.
    Now I hope it’s clear how incorrect the comparison of aircraft types in real combat is?
    This is a comparison of Su30 and F22. Does it make sense to compare the Su35 with the Eurofighter if the Su35 has a radar with AFAR? decide for yourself.
    1. adept666
      adept666 April 26 2017 09: 06 New
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      This is a comparison of Su30 and F22. Does it make sense to compare the Su35 with the Eurofighter if the Su35 has a radar with AFAR? decide for yourself.
      H035 "tricky" PFAR
  29. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 25 October 2015 20: 07 New
    0
    The Typhoon Indians were also impressed, and they noticed that both cars are approximately equal in capabilities. “Both are fourth-generation aircraft, and therefore correspond to each other in many ways. Therefore, the value of training lies in the personal contacts of the pilots - the Indians have a special caste, and he did not miss the opportunity to praise himself, because they won the training battle.
  30. EvilLion
    EvilLion 25 October 2015 20: 11 New
    0
    In terms of technology, this is a comparison of a machine from the 80s, maybe the 90s and the beginning of the 2000s.
  31. Megatron
    Megatron 25 October 2015 20: 57 New
    +1
    Hindus are also those operators of high-tech equipment.
    Either their submarines are drowning right at the pier with the whole crew, then the planes do not fly, or something else.
  32. wow
    wow 25 October 2015 21: 44 New
    0
    author, stick your airplane "interface" in your ass. Victory is ours !
  33. Steppe
    Steppe 25 October 2015 21: 47 New
    +1
    The United States found itself in a difficult situation. An attack on Russia is necessary to save their dollar. But if they attack, they will subject themselves to physical destruction. In any case, the United States will not be on the globe soon.
  34. Wolka
    Wolka 26 October 2015 05: 57 New
    +1
    I tried to read between the lines of this expert from the air, and so it turns out that our Dryers, that the Typhoons seem to be equal in combat capabilities, but they are weak compared to the F-15, feel the difference, then scanning the target doesn’t work, then the cockpit interface doesn’t that one, and in my opinion a bad dancer, all the asshole is in the way, air-to-air aglitsky racquets saw a super-duper, and Russians can’t beat it, you need to be able to fly and fight, and not to rattle your tongue empty, I also turned out to be an expert provocateur .. .
  35. Azitral
    Azitral 26 October 2015 10: 19 New
    +1
    Here in one place, comparing the Su-30 with the "raptor" they say that the "raptor" is better due to stealth. Like, he will see earlier, and therefore he will win. Explain to me wretched. one thing: it sees something "raptor" - radar. As soon as I turned it on, all "invisibility" ends! Another thing is cruising supersonic. This is a real advantage. And you can catch up and leave.
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 26 October 2015 21: 57 New
      +4
      Article Su 30 against F22 in the same section, where this topic was discussed in comments, there really is a chance not to identify radiation. Only I wrote above that this hour, ground-based (in my opinion and in the first place such systems are installed) means is easily identified. I think in the near future such a bodet system is implemented in the on-board electronic warfare system.
  36. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 26 October 2015 15: 08 New
    0
    The duel will not take place, because the typhoon “Typhoon” has died from the gap of “flesh” before reaching its barrier! Checkmate!
  37. Petr7
    Petr7 27 October 2015 10: 44 New
    0
    Original publication: The National Interest (USA) Russian Lethal Su-35 Fighter vs. Eurofighter: Who Wins?
    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russias-lethal-su-35-fighter-vs-eurofi
    ghter-who-wins-13952
    and translation
    Russian Su-35 vs Eurofighter: who will win? ("The National Interest", USA)
    Dave Majumdar (Dave Majumdar)
    http://inosmi.ru/world/20150930/230539723.html
  38. _my opinion
    _my opinion 27 October 2015 15: 47 New
    +1
    read the title, looked who the author was and decided not to waste time reading this hackneyed record ...
    in view of the fact that this author, with tenacity worthy of another application, makes such comparisons ...
  39. Pacifist
    Pacifist 7 March 2017 10: 17 New
    0
    Some nonsense. Why such conclusions when comparing? What are these problems with the identification system? Why did he get that the efighter can generally be compared in terms of detection and defeat with the SU-35? Did he even look at the TTX tables? This opus is not worth the depreciation of the keyboard from its writing.
  40. ty60
    ty60 18 March 2017 23: 08 New
    0
    There are such sucking mushrooms. Now we know in which forest the expert collects them
  41. adept666
    adept666 April 26 2017 09: 02 New
    0
    automatic electronic scanning antenna array

    wassat
  42. Sergey Kuznetsov_4
    Sergey Kuznetsov_4 13 March 2020 17: 28 New
    0
    Typhoon will win, because kashestvo