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Belarus will acquire Russian Su-30CM after 2020

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Belarusian Defense Ministry plans to purchase Su-30CM fighter jets, reports RIA News Post commander of the Air Force and the country's air defense forces Oleg Dvigalev.




“It is time to replace outdated aircraft. As an alternative, we consider the Su-30CM, ”said the general.

According to him, "new fighter aircraft should replace the aging MiG-29."

Dvigalev clarified that procurement is likely to be made after 2020.

“At the MAKS-2015 exhibition in the Moscow region, the Belarusian pilot tested the Su-30CM. He has very good reviews about this car, ”- said the commander.
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  1. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 20 October 2015 17: 40 New
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    Acquired, only at the expense of RUSSIA, they themselves will not pay. soldier
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 20 October 2015 17: 44 New
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      Quote: cerbuk6155
      Acquired, only at the expense of RUSSIA, they themselves will not pay. soldier

      No, for a base on its territory, but until 2020, a lot more can change
    2. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 20 October 2015 17: 45 New
      +8
      According to him, "new fighter aircraft should replace the aging MiG-29."

      Perhaps considering the territory of Belarus and experience in the operation of the MIG-29, it is more logical to take the MIG-35, which will probably still be brought to mind by the year of 2020? what
      1. cerbuk6155
        cerbuk6155 20 October 2015 17: 56 New
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        For a blink of an hour, Lukashenko disagrees, he wants a ship and even at the expense of RUSSIA he doesn’t want a base, and he wants to see only his pilots on airplanes. Here you have an ally. soldier
        1. Saratoga833
          Saratoga833 20 October 2015 20: 13 New
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          Quote: cerbuk6155
          For a blink of an hour, Lukashenko disagrees, he wants a ship and even at the expense of RUSSIA he doesn’t want a base, and he wants to see only his pilots on airplanes. Here you have an ally

          No wonder! As always a tropodopit! He is our ally, but with a stone in his bosom!
        2. molva73
          molva73 20 October 2015 21: 56 New
          +1
          And what, in fact, do you dislike? We are allies, we will buy airplanes from Russia. Perhaps we will place the base. But even if we don’t post it, what are your complaints? At least 2 Russian military units are deployed in Belarus. I see no reason to blame Belarus for infidelity to allied obligations. By the way, we buy Russian equipment, no one gives us it.
        3. pilot8878
          pilot8878 20 October 2015 23: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: cerbuk6155
          ... Lukashenko ... wants a sou and even that at the expense of RUSSIA and does not want a base, but on planes he wants to see only his pilots. Here you have an ally. soldier

          А скажите-ка мне, пожалуйста, какой директор колхоза скажет: "А приезжайте-ка вы, соседи, на своих тракторах и обрабатывайте наши поля к себе в закрома". Такого директора быстро снимут - а зачем он нужен, если соседи справляются с его обязанностями? А Григорьич - директор старый, матёрый. Такого на кривой козе не объедешь. laughing
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      3. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 20 October 2015 18: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Perhaps considering the territory of Belarus and experience in the operation of the MIG-29, it is more logical to take the MIG-35, which will probably still be brought to mind by the year of 2020?

        It’s also strange, like, a year or two ago they wanted to put the Su-27 into reserve, they say heavy fighters are expensive to refuel and service, and for a small territory of Belarus a light fighter is preferable.
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 20 October 2015 20: 06 New
          +1
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          It’s also strange, like, a year or two ago they wanted to put the Su-27 into reserve, they say heavy fighters are expensive to refuel and service, and for a small territory of Belarus a light fighter is preferable.

          That's right, but there are a few nuances.
          - Aircraft of the Su-27 family in Russia are mass-produced, and at several factories. Delivered to many countries of the world. Accordingly, there should be no problems with operation and maintenance. A plane is not a one-time phone for $ 50.
          - Serial production of modern light class fighters in Russia is not available now. Experienced vehicles have the MiG-35 and other modifications as a development model for the MiG-29th. Now the new light class fighters are either west or China. Alas.
        2. molva73
          molva73 20 October 2015 21: 59 New
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          A resource was released in Su-27. There is no money to buy new yet.
    3. Thronekeeper
      Thronekeeper 20 October 2015 18: 08 New
      +5
      Belarus is not a poor country. Moreover, installment purchase.
      But the Su-30SM is a good defense of our western borders.
      And, if you call a spade a spade, it is impossible for Russia to save on customers in plans for the supply of weapons. It is not for nothing that Pe-stan does not save on this. It depends on the political factor, depending on the components.
      The main thing is to ensure the continuity of power and prevent oranzhada.
    4. War and Peace
      War and Peace 20 October 2015 18: 42 New
      +1
      and dad is trifling? take so f35, about 30 should be enough for Belarus ...
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 20 October 2015 19: 00 New
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        Quote: War and Peace
        and dad is trifling? take so f35, about 30 should be enough for Belarus ...

        No one will sell. Why is the Su-30SM interesting, not the Su-35, Mig-35, or PakFa, which will be in the midst of production with second-stage engines after 2020.
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 20 October 2015 20: 00 New
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          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          Mig-35, or PakFa which will be after 2020 in the midst of production with engines of the second stage.

          PakFa - first of all, the Russian Air Force itself is needed.
          MiG35 - it is now not mass-produced unfortunately. Unlike Su
          1. Garris199
            Garris199 21 October 2015 02: 10 New
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            Quote: prosto_rgb
            PakFa - first of all, the Russian Air Force itself is needed.
            MiG35 - it is now not mass-produced unfortunately. Unlike Su

            It's like that. So what about the SU-35s? In my opinion, he surpasses 30ku in everything.
      2. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 20 October 2015 20: 10 New
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        Quote: War and Peace
        take so f35, pieces 30

        For the money you can buy 3 times more Su-30SM. And under f35 it is necessary to switch to the NATO standard in the Air Force.
        1. Oman 47
          Oman 47 20 October 2015 23: 12 New
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          Comrades!
          Another five-year-old bear is running, and the skin is being cut in a nine-node move ?! stop
          IS IT NOT EARNING ?!
          What are we discussing?
          Future possible intentions?
          Hints Old Man?
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    5. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 20 October 2015 18: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      Acquired, only at the expense of RUSSIA, they themselves will not pay.

      Alternatively, you can lease.
    6. Prisoner
      Prisoner 20 October 2015 19: 53 New
      +1
      And what kind of shisha? But it is necessary to give. Old Man in Europe is not breathing evenly. winked
  2. fox21h
    fox21h 20 October 2015 17: 40 New
    +6
    A lot of water leaks during this time, they make a far cry ...
    1. figwam
      figwam 20 October 2015 17: 43 New
      +6
      As an alternative, we are considering the Su-30SM, ”the general said.

      Isn’t it too late? after 2020.
      1. theadenter
        theadenter 20 October 2015 17: 48 New
        +5
        And why late, this is the same fresh modification.

        Another thing - the situation in the world can greatly change.
  3. DMoroz
    DMoroz 20 October 2015 17: 41 New
    +4
    after the break-in in Syria, they can not only be delivered to Belarus, the line will be built. And by 2020 they are already modernizing again ...
  4. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 20 October 2015 17: 42 New
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    Фамилия у генерала "авиационная".
    1. Hubun
      Hubun 20 October 2015 17: 45 New
      +4
      but it seems to me with that last name he would have to work in drug control
  5. theadenter
    theadenter 20 October 2015 17: 44 New
    +1
    MiG-29 is a beautiful plane. Too bad it's getting old.
    But it is necessary to rearm, and the Su-30SM is a good choice.
    1. avt
      avt 20 October 2015 17: 47 New
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      Quote: theadenter
      But it is necessary to rearm, and the Su-30 is a good choice.

      laughing Предлагаю генералу записать старинный тост , который он походу подзабыл , но судя по тому о чем мечтает к 2020 , все таки что то помнит-,, Имею желание купить дом , но не имею возможности, имею возможность купить козу, но не имею желания . Так выпьем за то , чтобы наши возможности , совпадали с нашими желаниями ."Его хотелки сродни хотелкам наших адмиралов иметь авианосец после 202..ого года
      1. theadenter
        theadenter 20 October 2015 17: 56 New
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        Yes, agree, I think. laughing Not a strange country for us. As usual, political concessions and agreements will clear everything out. Not only money is beneficial to Russia.
  6. Denis DV
    Denis DV 20 October 2015 17: 44 New
    +5
    Lukashenko would not engage in nonsense, Russia is the main guarantor of independence and security in Belarus. It would be better to buy rubles hi
    1. 740
      740 20 October 2015 17: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Denis DV
      Lukashenko would not engage in nonsense, Russia is the main guarantor of independence and security in Belarus. It would be better to buy rubles hi

      Some kind of aircraft, this is all a trifle compared to the nuclear power plant under construction in Belarus. This is where he competently led our grandmother to grandmas. He knows how to take profit.
      1. molva73
        molva73 20 October 2015 22: 03 New
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        I can’t understand. Do you reckon the Russian leadership for suckers or Lukashenko for a cunning devil?
  7. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 20 October 2015 17: 46 New
    +3
    Not only Russia should bear the burden of defense of the CST countries. It is necessary to support our defense industrial complex with orders.
  8. robbihood
    robbihood 20 October 2015 18: 07 New
    +3
    Quote: cerbuk6155
    Acquired, only at the expense of RUSSIA, they themselves will not pay. soldier

    If you look at the allies only as parasites, and this is not so (Belarus pays for weapons), then by 2020 our Air Force can transfer to other aircraft, you will only have an extra headache.
    1. avt
      avt 20 October 2015 19: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: robbihood
      then by 2020 our Air Force can transfer to other aircraft, you will only have an extra headache.

      В свое время посол на Украине ЧВС как то высказался на нечто такое о чем предшественники нынешних киевских великоукров высказались в том же духе-,,Напугали бабу туфлЯми на высоком каблуке." laughing Yes, no question - buy pennies.
      Quote: robbihood
      , you will only have an extra headache.

      Yes, we’ll survive somehow - the first time or something. We’ve got used to it — when Butska needs something, well, basically there are pennies there, the planes are different, then right away we’re the state of the state, we are covering you! As Russia needs something, well, there’s to answer for a bazaar, moreover, which no one forced him to voice publicly on the camera, in the same currency, of South Ossetia, Abkhazia, there is an aviation base there - we are a sovereign state and do not trade sovereignty!
  9. Steppe
    Steppe 20 October 2015 18: 17 New
    -1
    I believe that we are on the verge of major historical events. I think the dollar will collapse earlier. And therefore, I believe that the United States and NATO are unlikely to survive until 2020. Therefore, they may not need fighters.
    1. With Siberian Cranes
      With Siberian Cranes 20 October 2015 20: 34 New
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      What is your forecast based on?
      1. dvina71
        dvina71 20 October 2015 23: 32 New
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        Цитата: Со Стерхами
        What is your forecast based on?


        The states run out of money on November 30th. It will be interesting how to resolve it. But in finance, the states are falling into the abyss, this is not my opinion.
        The trouble is that too fast speed down can overheat the world and then EVERYTHING will come out more expensive.
        So everyone will smile and wave, greeting another increase in the US government debt and slowly transfer reserves to other assets and arm themselves. What is already happening.
  10. Bthuk
    Bthuk 20 October 2015 18: 32 New
    +1
    after 2020

    laughing
  11. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 20 October 2015 18: 43 New
    +2
    The mustachioed seeks profit everywhere, right after the re-election he started talking about the Russian air base on the territory of the Republic of Belarus, and literally a week before he said that these were all inventions of the magazine.
  12. Mercenary
    Mercenary 20 October 2015 18: 47 New
    +2
    What is really there, by 2020 take the T-50, or maybe the T-60. laughing
  13. combat66
    combat66 20 October 2015 18: 49 New
    +4
    Дело хорошее, эта машина я так понимаю должна стать в РФ самой массовой? А там где количество, там и с запчастями проще. Да и создана машина под русскоязычного.....так что для нас с вами. А по поводу типа халява, "батька развел на деньги" и тп. Я так понимаю, что "кто девушку ужинает тот её и танцует". wink
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 20 October 2015 19: 13 New
      +2
      Beautiful fighter.
    2. avt
      avt 20 October 2015 19: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: combat66
      . А по поводу типа халява, "батька развел на деньги" и тп. Я так понимаю, что "кто девушку ужинает тот её и танцует".

      Не в случае с Бацкой. Вот его еще ни разу не ,,танцевали" по взроcлому.Эти аэропланы ВВС Белоруссии не нужны - неподъемные , а России тоже особо ни в кайф содержать всю сопутствующую инфраструктуру и иметь летчиков которые России не подчиняются .Ладно бы было ОДКБ с единым центром принятия решения обязательного для исполнения ВСЕМИ национальными соединениями и частями в него входящими хотя бы на текущий момент времени .Так этого просто НЕТ и будет ли - неизвестно . Так что тут не только деньги на ветер , но и дефицитная техника - мы их поштучно для себя то получаем радуясь каждому взлетевшему борту. Вот даже такой простой момент - Бацка, когда Бакиева скинули, крычал -,,Ну и где это ОДКБ!?" А про то что согласно конституции Белоруссии применять ее ВС за рубежом запрещено - тихо забыл упомянуть . Ну и кто тогда на рубежах восточных ОДКБ корячиться будет ???
      1. combat66
        combat66 21 October 2015 08: 04 New
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        Do not focus on relations with the country only on one person. It is possible that it is, it is not really manageable, from which side look. No. But, Russia has the opportunity to influence the minds of an entire nation, not to let it roll its brains (which was depressed by the forelocks).
        But aircraft are needed and the structure can be jointly maintained and there are enough tasks for them. Much has been said about the role of Belarus in the western direction.
        So if the question arises, How to deal with an adversary? We will not last long on sapper blades, will we rake the cradles until Russia pulls up ?! For me, both Russian bases and your equipment are needed, as it’s calmer.
        1. avt
          avt 21 October 2015 09: 09 New
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          Quote: combat66
          Do not focus on relations with the country only on one person

          No. Even if this person determines the foreign and domestic policy in the state! ????
          Quote: combat66
          How to deal with an adversary? We will not last long on sapper blades, will we rake the cradles until Russia pulls up ?!

          Well, let's be honest - do you really think that the army of Belarus is able to withstand the NATO bloc along with Russia !? wassat Естественно что в рамках ОДКБ решать полномасштабный конфликт и его предотвращение на стадии угрозы применения силы будет Россия .Полагаете что ПВО Белоруссии способно закрыть западное направление ?Опять же функционирование такой силовой составляющей возможно только при наличии единого центра оперативного принятия решения и его ОБЯЗАТЕЛЬНОГО исполнения . Он есть ? Ну кроме художественного свиста про единое ПВО и Бацкиного,,мы вас засщишаем." Это не прихоть какая то по типу ,,нагнуть сувярянятет" , это вполне себе насущная необходимость - сколько было дурацких ситуаций во времена СССР , когда даже при централизованной системе НИКТО не хотел брать ответственность отдать приказ на уничтожение нарушителя ?А тут сколько будут согласовывать ? Особенно если учесть подлетное время от Москвы до Бреста.
          Quote: combat66
          For me, Russian bases are needed

          Российская авиационная база решила бы вопросы по прикрытию Белоруссии с воздуха с минимальными затратами, но .....не верю я что согласуют . Бацке захочется как минимум порулить . А кто в здравом уме и твердой памяти ему это позволить - отдавать приказы ВС РФ ? Может ему еще ВВП и ,,ядерный чемоданчик" поносить на выходные даст ? wassat Here is something that tells me - it will be like with a single currency - long, dreary and with scandals, but actually already. So for me - it’s better to leave everything as it is and engage in arrangement in the Smolensk, Kaliningrad, Pskov regions. There is less headache, and the effect is greater, and then, over time, it may be .... someday ..... Yes, actually the campaign has already begun - there was infa that a new team is being deployed in Smolenskaya.
  14. yan 2015
    yan 2015 20 October 2015 19: 14 New
    +1
    it would be necessary to immediately identify the flies separately - cutlets separately. that is, either the VKS base in Belarus. or money for the SU-30SM. THIS ALTRUISM ONE SIDE .. already looks indecent.
  15. With Siberian Cranes
    With Siberian Cranes 20 October 2015 20: 33 New
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    The cunning Old Man will receive them for nothing
    1. By001261
      By001261 20 October 2015 23: 20 New
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      Maybe for nothing but we don’t know about it.
  16. m-arsenich
    m-arsenich 20 October 2015 22: 10 New
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    Quote: robbihood
    our Air Force can transfer to other aircraft, you will only have an extra headache.


    Let me note: in this case, the headache will be for you, I suspect, even female - the migraine is called ...
  17. KnightRider
    KnightRider 20 October 2015 22: 56 New
    +1
    They will buy at domestic prices, like Kazakhstan. In any case, the old equipment, and the materiel they have since the days of the USSR, sooner or later need to be replaced with a new one. First, Kazakhstan, now Belarus, and then you look and other members of the CIS will catch up, if they have tension with money, let them provide us with their airfields for bases ...