Belarus will acquire Russian Su-30CM after 2020

Belarusian Defense Ministry plans to purchase Su-30CM fighter jets, reports RIA News Post commander of the Air Force and the country's air defense forces Oleg Dvigalev.

“It is time to replace outdated aircraft. As an alternative, we consider the Su-30CM, ”said the general.

According to him, "new fighter aircraft should replace the aging MiG-29."

Dvigalev clarified that procurement is likely to be made after 2020.

“At the MAKS-2015 exhibition in the Moscow region, the Belarusian pilot tested the Su-30CM. He has very good reviews about this car, ”- said the commander.

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[cerbuk6155]

Acquired, only at the expense of RUSSIA, they themselves will not pay.

[vovanpain]

Quote: cerbuk6155

Acquired, only at the expense of RUSSIA, they themselves will not pay.

No, for a base on its territory, but until 2020, a lot more can change

[Nevsky_ZU]

According to him, "new fighter aircraft should replace the aging MiG-29."

Perhaps considering the territory of Belarus and experience in the operation of the MIG-29, it is more logical to take the MIG-35, which will probably still be brought to mind by the year of 2020?

[cerbuk6155]

For a blink of an hour, Lukashenko disagrees, he wants a ship and even at the expense of RUSSIA he doesn’t want a base, and he wants to see only his pilots on airplanes. Here you have an ally.

[Saratoga833]

Quote: cerbuk6155

For a blink of an hour, Lukashenko disagrees, he wants a ship and even at the expense of RUSSIA he doesn’t want a base, and he wants to see only his pilots on airplanes. Here you have an ally

No wonder! As always a tropodopit! He is our ally, but with a stone in his bosom!

[molva73]

And what, in fact, do you dislike? We are allies, we will buy airplanes from Russia. Perhaps we will place the base. But even if we don’t post it, what are your complaints? At least 2 Russian military units are deployed in Belarus. I see no reason to blame Belarus for infidelity to allied obligations. By the way, we buy Russian equipment, no one gives us it.

[pilot8878]

Quote: cerbuk6155

... Lukashenko ... wants a sou and even that at the expense of RUSSIA and does not want a base, but on planes he wants to see only his pilots. Here you have an ally.

And tell me, please, which collective farm director will say: "Come, neighbors, on your tractors and work our fields in your bins." Such a director will be quickly removed - and why is he needed if the neighbors are coping with his duties? And Grigorich is an old, seasoned director. You can't go round this on a crooked goat.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Perhaps considering the territory of Belarus and experience in the operation of the MIG-29, it is more logical to take the MIG-35, which will probably still be brought to mind by the year of 2020?

It’s also strange, like, a year or two ago they wanted to put the Su-27 into reserve, they say heavy fighters are expensive to refuel and service, and for a small territory of Belarus a light fighter is preferable.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

It’s also strange, like, a year or two ago they wanted to put the Su-27 into reserve, they say heavy fighters are expensive to refuel and service, and for a small territory of Belarus a light fighter is preferable.

That's right, but there are a few nuances.
- Aircraft of the Su-27 family in Russia are mass-produced, and at several factories. Delivered to many countries of the world. Accordingly, there should be no problems with operation and maintenance. A plane is not a one-time phone for $ 50.
- Serial production of modern light class fighters in Russia is not available now. Experienced vehicles have the MiG-35 and other modifications as a development model for the MiG-29th. Now the new light class fighters are either west or China. Alas.

[molva73]

A resource was released in Su-27. There is no money to buy new yet.

[Thronekeeper]

Belarus is not a poor country. Moreover, installment purchase.
But the Su-30SM is a good defense of our western borders.
And, if you call a spade a spade, it is impossible for Russia to save on customers in plans for the supply of weapons. It is not for nothing that Pe-stan does not save on this. It depends on the political factor, depending on the components.
The main thing is to ensure the continuity of power and prevent oranzhada.

[War and Peace]

and dad is trifling? take so f35, about 30 should be enough for Belarus ...

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: War and Peace

and dad is trifling? take so f35, about 30 should be enough for Belarus ...

No one will sell. Why is the Su-30SM interesting, not the Su-35, Mig-35, or PakFa, which will be in the midst of production with second-stage engines after 2020.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

Mig-35, or PakFa which will be after 2020 in the midst of production with engines of the second stage.

PakFa - first of all, the Russian Air Force itself is needed.
MiG35 - it is now not mass-produced unfortunately. Unlike Su

[Garris199]

Quote: prosto_rgb

PakFa - first of all, the Russian Air Force itself is needed.
MiG35 - it is now not mass-produced unfortunately. Unlike Su

It's like that. So what about the SU-35s? In my opinion, he surpasses 30ku in everything.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: War and Peace

take so f35, pieces 30

For the money you can buy 3 times more Su-30SM. And under f35 it is necessary to switch to the NATO standard in the Air Force.

[Oman 47]

Comrades!
Another five-year-old bear is running, and the skin is being cut in a nine-node move ?!
IS IT NOT EARNING ?!
What are we discussing?
Future possible intentions?
Hints Old Man?

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: cerbuk6155

Acquired, only at the expense of RUSSIA, they themselves will not pay.

Alternatively, you can lease.

[Prisoner]

And what kind of shisha? But it is necessary to give. Old Man in Europe is not breathing evenly.

[fox21h]

A lot of water leaks during this time, they make a far cry ...

[figwam]

As an alternative, we are considering the Su-30SM, ”the general said.

Isn’t it too late? after 2020.

[theadenter]

And why late, this is the same fresh modification.

Another thing - the situation in the world can greatly change.

[DMoroz]

after the break-in in Syria, they can not only be delivered to Belarus, the line will be built. And by 2020 they are already modernizing again ...

[Armored optimist]

The general's surname is "aviation".

[Hubun]

but it seems to me with that last name he would have to work in drug control

[theadenter]

MiG-29 is a beautiful plane. Too bad it's getting old.
But it is necessary to rearm, and the Su-30SM is a good choice.

[avt]

Quote: theadenter

But it is necessary to rearm, and the Su-30 is a good choice.

I propose to the general to write down an old toast, which he had forgotten during the campaign, but judging by what he dreams of by 2020, he still remembers something- ,, I have a desire to buy a house, but I have no opportunity, I have the opportunity to buy a goat, but I have no desire. So let's drink to our capabilities, coincide with our desires. "His wishes are akin to the wishes of our admirals to have an aircraft carrier after 202 ...

[theadenter]

Yes, agree, I think. Not a strange country for us. As usual, political concessions and agreements will clear everything out. Not only money is beneficial to Russia.

[Denis DV]

Lukashenko would not engage in nonsense, Russia is the main guarantor of independence and security in Belarus. It would be better to buy rubles

[740]

Quote: Denis DV

Lukashenko would not engage in nonsense, Russia is the main guarantor of independence and security in Belarus. It would be better to buy rubles

Some kind of aircraft, this is all a trifle compared to the nuclear power plant under construction in Belarus. This is where he competently led our grandmother to grandmas. He knows how to take profit.

[molva73]

I can’t understand. Do you reckon the Russian leadership for suckers or Lukashenko for a cunning devil?

[Alexander 3]

Not only Russia should bear the burden of defense of the CST countries. It is necessary to support our defense industrial complex with orders.

[Robbihood]

Quote: cerbuk6155

Acquired, only at the expense of RUSSIA, they themselves will not pay.

If you look at the allies only as parasites, and this is not so (Belarus pays for weapons), then by 2020 our Air Force can transfer to other aircraft, you will only have an extra headache.

[avt]

Quote: robbihood

then by 2020 our Air Force can transfer to other aircraft, you will only have an extra headache.

At one time, the ambassador to Ukraine, PMC, somehow spoke out on something that the predecessors of the current Kiev velikoukrov expressed in the same spirit - "They scared the woman with high-heeled shoes." Yes, no question - buy pennies.

Quote: robbihood

, you will only have an extra headache.

Yes, we’ll survive somehow - the first time or something. We’ve got used to it — when Butska needs something, well, basically there are pennies there, the planes are different, then right away we’re the state of the state, we are covering you! As Russia needs something, well, there’s to answer for a bazaar, moreover, which no one forced him to voice publicly on the camera, in the same currency, of South Ossetia, Abkhazia, there is an aviation base there - we are a sovereign state and do not trade sovereignty!

[Steppe]

I believe that we are on the verge of major historical events. I think the dollar will collapse earlier. And therefore, I believe that the United States and NATO are unlikely to survive until 2020. Therefore, they may not need fighters.

[With Siberian Cranes]

What is your forecast based on?

[dvina71]

Quote: With Siberian Cranes

What is your forecast based on?

The states run out of money on November 30th. It will be interesting how to resolve it. But in finance, the states are falling into the abyss, this is not my opinion.
The trouble is that too fast speed down can overheat the world and then EVERYTHING will come out more expensive.
So everyone will smile and wave, greeting another increase in the US government debt and slowly transfer reserves to other assets and arm themselves. What is already happening.

[Bthuk]

after 2020

[Arktidianets]

The mustachioed seeks profit everywhere, right after the re-election he started talking about the Russian air base on the territory of the Republic of Belarus, and literally a week before he said that these were all inventions of the magazine.

[Mercenary]

What is really there, by 2020 take the T-50, or maybe the T-60.

[combat66]

It's a good thing, this car, as I understand it, should become the most popular in Russia? And where there is quantity, it is easier with spare parts. Yes, and created a machine for the Russian-speaking ..... so for you and me. And about the type of freebie, "dad spread for money" and so on. As I understand it, "whoever eats a girl's dinner is her and dances."

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Beautiful fighter.

[avt]

Quote: combat66

... And about the type of freebie, "dad spread for money" and so on. As I understand it, "whoever eats a girl's dinner is her and dances."

Not in the case of Batskaya. Here it has never been "danced" like an adult. These airplanes of the Belarusian Air Force are not needed - they are too heavy, and Russia, too, is not particularly keen to maintain all the accompanying infrastructure and have pilots who are not subordinate to Russia. Well, it would be a CSTO with a single decision-making center compulsory for execution by ALL national formations and parts of it included at least at the current time. So there is simply NO and whether it will be unknown. So there is not only money down the drain, but also scarce equipment - we get them one by one for ourselves, rejoicing to each board that took off. Even such a simple moment - But Father, when Bakiev was thrown off, shouted - "Well, where is the CSTO !?" And I quietly forgot to mention the fact that according to the Constitution of Belarus it is forbidden to use its Armed Forces abroad. Well, who then will squirm on the borders of the eastern CSTO ???

[combat66]

Do not focus on relations with the country only on one person. It is possible that it is, it is not really manageable, from which side look. But, Russia has the opportunity to influence the minds of an entire nation, not to let it roll its brains (which was depressed by the forelocks).
But aircraft are needed and the structure can be jointly maintained and there are enough tasks for them. Much has been said about the role of Belarus in the western direction.
So if the question arises, How to deal with an adversary? We will not last long on sapper blades, will we rake the cradles until Russia pulls up ?! For me, both Russian bases and your equipment are needed, as it’s calmer.

[avt]

Quote: combat66

Do not focus on relations with the country only on one person

Even if this person determines the foreign and domestic policy in the state! ????

Quote: combat66

How to deal with an adversary? We will not last long on sapper blades, will we rake the cradles until Russia pulls up ?!

Well, let's be honest - do you really think that the army of Belarus is able to withstand the NATO bloc along with Russia !? Naturally, within the framework of the CSTO, Russia will solve a full-scale conflict and its prevention at the stage of the threat of the use of force. Do you think that the air defense of Belarus is capable of closing the western direction? Again, the functioning of such a force component is possible only if there is a single center for prompt decision-making and its MANDATORY execution. Is he there? Well, apart from the artistic whistle about the unified air defense and Batskin, we’ll zaschishay you. “This is not a whim of some kind, bend down, it’s quite an urgent need - there were so many stupid situations during the Soviet era, when even with a centralized system NOBODY wanted to take responsibility for ordering the destruction of the violator? Especially considering the flight time from Moscow to Brest.

Quote: combat66

For me, Russian bases are needed

The Russian air base would solve the issues of covering Belarus from the air with minimal costs, but ..... I do not believe that they will agree. But father wants to steer at least. And who in his right mind and firm memory will allow him to give orders to the RF Armed Forces? Maybe he will still give GDP and "a nuclear suitcase" to vilify for the weekend? Here is something that tells me - it will be like with a single currency - long, dreary and with scandals, but actually already. So for me - it’s better to leave everything as it is and engage in arrangement in the Smolensk, Kaliningrad, Pskov regions. There is less headache, and the effect is greater, and then, over time, it may be .... someday ..... Yes, actually the campaign has already begun - there was infa that a new team is being deployed in Smolenskaya.

[yan 2015]

it would be necessary to immediately identify the flies separately - cutlets separately. that is, either the VKS base in Belarus. or money for the SU-30SM. THIS ALTRUISM ONE SIDE .. already looks indecent.

[With Siberian Cranes]

The cunning Old Man will receive them for nothing

[By001261]

Maybe for nothing but we don’t know about it.

[m-arsenich]

Quote: robbihood

our Air Force can transfer to other aircraft, you will only have an extra headache.

Let me note: in this case, the headache will be for you, I suspect, even female - the migraine is called ...

[Knight Rider]

They will buy at domestic prices, like Kazakhstan. In any case, the old equipment, and the materiel they have since the days of the USSR, sooner or later need to be replaced with a new one. First, Kazakhstan, now Belarus, and then you look and other members of the CIS will catch up, if they have tension with money, let them provide us with their airfields for bases ...