"Admiral Gorshkov" will pass the final test in the White Sea

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The lead frigate of the 22350 project has entered the White Sea today to carry out the final stages of state tests of equipment and weapons, reports MIC With reference to the representative of the Federation Council Vadim Sergu.



“On board the frigate Admiral Gorshkov, in addition to crew members, are industry representatives who oversee the progress of the tests. On September 30, the ship completed the inter-naval transition from Baltiysk to Severodvinsk and temporarily became part of the forces of the White Sea Naval Base of the North fleet. During the inter-naval transition, the navigation system, communications and radar systems were checked on the frigate, ”said Serga.

“According to the results of the final stages of state tests, a decision will be made to admit the ship to the fleet,” he noted.

The officer recalled that “the frigate passed sea trials in the Baltic, where he successfully conducted artillery and rocket firing and worked out the fight against submarines along with the sea aviation Baltic Fleet. "

Help "MIC": “Admiral Gorshkov” was laid at the start of 2006 of the year and launched in the fall of 2010. For the first time, a new ship was launched in November 2014. The 4,5 frigate with a displacement of thousands of tons can reach speeds up to 29 nodes, and is armed with 16 Onyx or Caliber missiles, as well as the Polimen Redut air defense system. ”
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  1. Bys
    +14
    20 October 2015 17: 18
    well done of course, well, very long
    1. -1
      20 October 2015 17: 22
      But in NATO they will again be surprised !!!
      1. +1
        20 October 2015 18: 08
        And surprise Nat belay and the quality will be on top good ! That’s why and for a long time! And if such a boat tyap blunder can be done then quickly ... That will only be tyap-blunder!
    2. -7
      20 October 2015 18: 41
      and armed with 16 Onyx missiles or "Caliber"

      How shoud I understand this? Calibers start vertically from glasses, and "Onyxes" from horizontal inclined PU? In addition, "Caliber" is a subsonic anti-ship missile system, and "Onyx" is a hypersonic anti-ship missile system! In general, everything is different. So what will it be armed with?
      1. +6
        20 October 2015 18: 55
        I don’t know if Caliber has limitations on the type of launch, but Onyx starts both vertically and at an angle, both at 60 and 30 degrees (here I’m about, by eye).

        And in what place is Onyx hypersonic? What, Mach 2,5-2,9 suddenly became hypersound? I remember recently, on some of the foreign sites there was information saying that Onyx in the final section accelerates to 4,5 Machs, but this is not hypersonic

        hi
        1. -2
          20 October 2015 19: 13
          Quote: Wiruz
          I don’t know if Caliber has limitations on the type of launch, but Onyx starts both vertically and at an angle, both at 60 and 30 degrees (here I’m about, by eye).

          It will hurt my eyes. Let's be more precise. Onyxes are anti-ship missiles. Onyx anti-ship missiles are 8,2 meters long and weigh 3 tons.


          "Caliber" KR is from their entire range of 6-meter missiles.


          So how to unify PU (difference in length-2 meters) and controls?
          1. +2
            20 October 2015 19: 29
            The hole will be painful. Let's be more precise. Onyxes are anti-ship missiles. Onyx anti-ship missiles are 8,2 meters long and weigh 3 tons.
            "Caliber" KR is from their entire range of 6-meter missiles.

            Honestly, I hardly understand how your post is connected with the previous one, but still I put my three pennies.

            So you say that Onyx is a hyper-RCC (by the way, you didn’t say where, in your opinion hypersound begins). Yes, the mass is 3 tons, and the length is more than 8 meters. And what? Granite, it weighs 7 tons, and it is 10 meters long, they have the same speeds, although the P-700 has a range of more than 500 km (and few people know the real Onyx range).

            As for Caliber, well, I will reveal a terrible secret, known, apparently, to everyone except you. There is also a Caliber anti-ship missile. Can you imagine? In narrow circles they call "3M54". Its length is also more than 8 meters, weight is 2,3 tons, range and speed ... well, Google will help you. Just keep in mind that all you find is the performance characteristics of the export rocket. We turn on logic and imagination (the order does not matter) and we get that the non-export RCC Caliber flies, well, at least 500 km, and at supersonic at the end.

            By the way, the Caliber that is 6 meters long is an export 3M14E, "our" will be more authentic, almost like a 3M54 (by eye)

            hi
          2. +3
            20 October 2015 21: 18
            Quote: GSH-18
            "Caliber" KR is from their entire range of 6-meter missiles.

            6,20 m = only "E" for export,
            under NATO, the TA "E1" standard is even shorter. 54E -8,22 m "is not included in NATo"
            "Tomahawk" (more precisely, its protective launch capsule) - diameter 21 inches (533 mm), length 20 feet 6 inches (246 inches. = 6,25 m) originates from the TA for the Mark 14 in 1931, when the US Navy adopted the 533-mm Mark 14 anti-ship torpedo boat.

            Ours is longer.
            "Granat" (3M10) 8,09 m, 53-65K = 7,945 m, TE-2 with a detachable (boat) towed telecontrol coil - 8,3 m, etc.

            3M14 is similar (like a twin) to 3M10 and 3M10B2.
            those. from 7,2 to 8,1 m

            UPU 3S-14 vertical launch can take various types of missiles in the transport launch tubes (TPS) SM-324 or in TPS 3C-44 of various modifications (R length up to 9m)

            The 3C-14K universal deck launcher - a vertical universal PU launcher (modular) is designed to accommodate four 3C-44 or SM-324 TPNs on a cushioned platform with missiles for various purposes (R length up to 9m)
            data on "E"
          3. 0
            20 October 2015 21: 50
            Quote: GSH-18
            Caliber "KR" is from all their range of 6-meter missiles.

            No, ZM-54AE, for example, has a length of ~ 8m
        2. 0
          20 October 2015 19: 19
          Quote: Wiruz
          And in what place is Onyx hypersonic?

          Onyx is an export version. Like "Club-k" flying only 300 km, unlike "Caliber". Experience the difference. "Yakhont" will be on our ships and its performance characteristics have not been declassified. Written about him in the Internet is taken from Onyx.
          1. +7
            20 October 2015 19: 34
            Onyx is an export version. "Yakhont" will be on our ships and its performance characteristics are not declassified

            As my physics teacher said "This is exactly the same thing, just the opposite."

            Onyx is for sebe. Yakhont (based on Onyx) - for export. BrahMos (based on Yakhont + Indian sticker) - Indians.

            bully
          2. +1
            21 October 2015 00: 13
            Quote: GSH-18
            Our ships will have "Yakhont"

            Dimensions Yakhont and Onyx are the same, the rocket is the same. Rocket 3M55 / ZM55E (limited range)

            the limitation on the SRMT is solved differently (not smaller):
            Beep
            self-liquidator
            "smaller" tank TK (capacity is stupidly selected .. "foamed"?)
            Quote: GSH-18
            Written about him in the Internet is taken from Onyx.

            Launching anti-ship missiles 3M55 "Onyx" with MRK "Nakat" pr.1234.7 in 1996
      2. +1
        21 October 2015 08: 29
        Quote: GSH-18
        How shoud I understand this? Calibers start vertically from glasses, and "Onyxes" from horizontal inclined PU? In addition, "Caliber" is a subsonic anti-ship missile system, and "Onyx" is a hypersonic anti-ship missile system! In general, everything is different. So what will it be armed with?


        There is a universal PU. Everything is launched from it. In the future, I hope they will launch the 48n6 SAM

  2. +2
    20 October 2015 17: 19
    I agree for a long time. But here the main thing is not to rush. almost ready. here the fundamentals for the destroyer are being worked out on the basis of this project.
    1. 0
      20 October 2015 18: 47
      here the fundamentals for the destroyer are being worked out on the basis of this project.

      Your words, as they say ...
    2. 0
      20 October 2015 21: 16
      only here is the problem in the engines. we have analogues. but more aviation. and generally between repair cycles no more than 4000 hours.
      and all responsible GTE remained in Ukraine - GP NPKG "Zorya" - "Mashproekt"
      DR59 - 12316 hours
      DZh59 (afterburner 22500 hp) - 12872 hours (x 2 on BOD pr. 1155)
      DG90 (marching 9000 hp) - 14199 hours (x 2 on BOD pr. 1155)

      in short, I don’t like my personal conclusions about our future destroyers!
  3. +15
    20 October 2015 17: 20
    It goes beautifully, and most importantly, what's inside it!
    1. +7
      20 October 2015 17: 30
      Frigates project 22350 - Multipurpose frigates of the far sea zone, designed for the rearmament of the Russian Navy.
      Main characteristics
      Displacement 4500 tons (full)
      135 m length (longest)
      Width 16 m
      Precipitation 4,5 m
      Engines Diesel Gas Turbine Power Plant (CODAG)
      Power 65 000 l. With. (general)
      2 diesel engine 10D49 power on 5200 l. with.,
      2 GTE M90FR with a capacity of 27 liters. with.
      29 nodes travel speed
      Cruising range 4000 nautical miles (at 14 knots)
      Crew 180-210 people
      weaponry
      Artillery 1×1-130mm AU A-192
      Missile armament up to 16 ZM55 Onyx or 3M54 anti-ship missiles (Caliber-NK family),
      SAM "Poliment-Redut" (32 9M96 missiles or up to 128 9M100 missiles in any combination),
      2 ZRAK "Broadsword"
      Anti-submarine armament up to 16 anti-submarine missiles 91RE1 (Kalibr-NK family),
      2x4 PU complex PLO and PTZ "Package-NK"
      Aviation group 1 helicopter Ka-27PL
      1. +1
        20 October 2015 18: 43
        And still, his air defense systems haunt me. Too fat cells there for 9m96m, whose diameter does not exceed a quarter meter request
        1. 0
          21 October 2015 08: 34
          Quote: Wiruz
          And still, his air defense systems haunt me. Too fat cells there for 9m96m, whose diameter does not exceed a quarter meter request


          You probably confuse accelerated redoubts with ss-14. They’re not fat. just in diameter



          But the ss-14 is certainly larger, but they do not put 9m96 there either

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  4. +4
    20 October 2015 17: 22
    “Sea trials frigate passed in the Baltic

    It is urgent to improve the quality of sea trials, passing through to the Mediterranean. There will be more warmer and more useful.
  5. +4
    20 October 2015 17: 26
    Seven Feet Keel.
  6. +11
    20 October 2015 17: 29
    Yes. A very strong ship. Voor corresponds to the EM project "Arli Boek" or KR pr. "Ticonderoga", heavy anti-ship missile and air defense / missile defense systems with KR, PLO complex. It can be used for strategic defense, is especially effective off the enemy's coast, intercepting ICBMs in the active sector. It is irreplaceable in closed waters, where it ensures the closure of the sky and the sea. The Franks and the USA did not have frigates next to each other.
    I am glad that this ship was sent for state tests. Limited cruising range and "non-squadness" are relative things, the ship is technologically advanced and refueled without a headache, which allows the projection of force to be provided.
    Notable positive event.
    1. +7
      20 October 2015 18: 45
      Yes. A very strong ship. Voor corresponds to the EM project "Arli Boek" or KR pr. "Ticonderoga", heavy anti-ship missile and air defense / missile defense systems with KR, PLO complex. It can be used for strategic defense, is especially effective off the enemy's coast, intercepting ICBMs in the active sector. It is irreplaceable in closed waters, where it ensures the closure of the sky and the sea. The Franks and the USA did not have frigates next to each other.

      Forgot to mention the destruction of the Death Stars by the exact hit of a shell in the main reactor laughing
    2. +12
      20 October 2015 19: 23
      Alas, the EM project "Arleigh Burke" with a displacement of under 9 thousand tons carries more than 70 cruise missiles against 16 pieces. our 22350; the Ticonderoga has even more - 122 missiles.

      We will have similar indicators only for the modernized TARK 1144.2 "Admiral Nakhimov", then apparently the "Peter the Great" and 3 cruisers 1164, if they are upgraded with "Caliber".

      But 22350 needs to be built, and a lot, especially since it is the largest warship that we have mastered from scratch. And that is a lot.
    3. +2
      20 October 2015 19: 44
      Quote: Thronekeeper
      Yes. A very strong ship. Voor corresponds to the EM project "Arli Boek" or KR pr. "Ticonderoga", heavy anti-ship missile and air defense / missile defense systems with KR, PLO complex. ...
      Notable positive event.


      Only now, the number of portable weapons is approximately 2.5-3 times less ...
      Do not try to keep silent about it.
      Well, her 4.5-kiloton frigate can carry as many weapons as 9.7-kiloton destroyers and cruisers.
      Physics and mathematics cannot be fooled.
      Even if you really want.
      1. +4
        20 October 2015 19: 54
        Most recently, on the same site, I explained to one resident of the promised land that a non-export Caliber could not fly just 300km, if only because its mass + speed + length + diameter + height_flight is almost the same as that of Tomahawk with a Grenade, whose ranges are almost much higher. I didn’t believe it. Fortunately, the recent shooting showed everything to everyone. Today people do not know how to use the brain, but blindly believe in all the inscriptions on the fences

        request
      2. 0
        21 October 2015 02: 30
        Quote: mav1971
        Only now, the number of portable weapons is approximately 2.5-3 times less ...

        In general, comparing ships of different classes is wrong, but for that matter, his price is much lower than that of a destroyer.
    4. +2
      21 October 2015 09: 11
      Quote: Thronekeeper
      Air defense / missile defense


      There is no missile defense there! And even more so

      Quote: Thronekeeper
      intercept ICBMs on an active site


      NO ONE CAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Here's a comrade case says:

      Quote: Wiruz
      Forgot to mention the destruction of the Death Stars by the exact hit of a shell in the main reactor

      wassat
  7. +7
    20 October 2015 17: 36
    I read how: “Admiral Gorshkov” will pass the final test in the WHITE HOUSE)
    1. +5
      20 October 2015 17: 51
      You read about Ukraine, everywhere you will see the "white house"
    2. +2
      20 October 2015 19: 12
      You have the right thoughts, colleague!)
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  8. +2
    20 October 2015 17: 44
    Time will tell us good luck. Well, if it reaches the glory of project 1135.
    1. +1
      20 October 2015 18: 59
      Well, if our naval commanders give preference to building as many as (!) 12 nuclear destroyers ala-WunderKirov, then, I think, 20-30 frigates 22350 / 22350M will be built in pairs with them.
  9. +7
    20 October 2015 17: 44
    “The Admiral Gorshkov was laid down in early 2006 and launched in the fall of 2010. For the first time, the new ship entered trials in November 2014. The frigate with a displacement of 4,5 thousand tons can reach speeds of up to 29 knots, and is armed with 16 Onyx or Caliber missiles, as well as the Polyment-Redut anti-aircraft complex
    Well done. But gentlemen, this is not a deadline. But I hope it will be better. And the best thing is not how much we can, but how much we need. Seven feet under the keel. Good luck Admiral Gorshkov.
  10. 0
    20 October 2015 18: 33
    It is gratifying.
    But I do not like the power reserve (little) and the manufacturer of the power plant.
    1. 0
      20 October 2015 19: 13
      The main thing is that "Calibers" fly far.
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  11. +1
    20 October 2015 19: 40
    Quote: Bone
    But in NATO they will again be surprised !!!

    Doo well? Do you think that they know nothing and are surprised about every occasion? At one time, Professor Preobrazhensky gave good advice: "Never read Soviet newspapers before meals." There are no Soviet newspapers now, so do not read the electronic media ... As something - so the West turns out to be surprised by everything ... Damn, is not it tired of all this writing and talking?

    Quote: GSH-18
    How shoud I understand this? Calibers start vertically from glasses, and "Onyxes" from horizontal inclined PU? In addition, "Caliber" is a subsonic anti-ship missile system, and "Onyx" is a hypersonic anti-ship missile system! In general, everything is different. So what will it be armed with?

    How to understand? But simple. Exist 3C14 Universal Deck Launcher... Vertical, by the way. And it is designed to launch missiles of the Caliber and Onyx families. By the way, "Onyx" has never been HYPERSONIC rocket. If the speed is in 2,5-2,9М became for you HYPERSONIC - then no problem, consider it not just hypersonicand even superlight

    Also, you would have decided. "Onyx" is launched from horizontal or inclined launchers? AND horizontal inclined is nonsense

    Quote: Thronekeeper
    Yes. A very strong ship. Voor corresponds to the EM project "Arli Boek" or KR pr. "Ticonderoga", heavy anti-ship missile and air defense / missile defense systems with KR, PLO complex. It can be used for strategic defense, is especially effective off the enemy's coast, intercepting ICBMs in the active sector. It is irreplaceable in closed waters, where it ensures the closure of the sky and the sea. The Franks and the USA did not have frigates next to each other.


    Well, does it really match? That 16 cells on the CD (by no means heavy, as you write) and 32 SAM cells (again, by no means heavy) correspond to 96 universal launchers from Burke (I don't take Tiku). So 48 cells are equivalent to 96 cells? And a maximum of 16 cruise missiles are equivalent to variants of 8 to 56 cruise missiles? Oh well. Well, about intercepting ICBMs - this is STRONG. Rocket with speed in 900-1000 m / s capable of intercepting ICBMs at speeds of 7,5 km / s?
    American "Standards" at a speed of 3,5-4,2 km / s cannot, but ours at a speed of 0,9-1 km / s can. Do you happen to know if our starships in the orbit of the Moon cannot intercept or the Death Stars?

    Quote: Thronekeeper
    At the Franks and the United States frigates did not stand nearby.

    Sure. even the decommissioned American frigates "Oliver Perry" were armed with 36 "Standard" missiles, which, in terms of performance characteristics, were more powerful than the 9M96 ... How could it be otherwise ...
    1. 0
      21 October 2015 09: 36
      How tough you are with Urya patriots then!

      Quote: Old26
      What are 16 cells in KR (not at all heavy, as you write)


      Why not? they have more loaded rockets than MK 41. They are just heavy, and even heavier than MK41.

      Quote: Old26
      Is a missile with a speed of 900-1000 m / s capable of intercepting ICBMs with speeds of 7,5 km / s?
      American "Standards" at a speed of 3,5-4,2 km / s cannot, but ours at a speed of 0,9-1 km / s can.


      Speed ​​is not the most important parameter.

      For example, the speed 48n6 (2100m / s) which is more precisely for air defense is greater than that of 9М82 (1800m / s) which is more than PRO.

      The question is the height of the interception, since the ICBMs on the marching section reach too high a height in space - we simply cannot get it. And even more so, the principle of kinetic interception has not yet been implemented with us - this is the whole problem of missile defense
  12. 0
    20 October 2015 22: 25
    I agree that everything has been going on for a very long time !!!
  13. +3
    21 October 2015 00: 51
    Great ship.
    We would have such a couple in the Pacific Fleet.
    And Caliber, as I look, becomes a brand similar to Kalashnikov.
  14. +2
    21 October 2015 03: 29
    Quote: Old26

    Sure. even the decommissioned American frigates "Oliver Perry" were armed with 36 "Standard" missiles, which, in terms of performance characteristics, were more powerful than the 9M96 ... How could it be otherwise ...

    Yeah, they did. Only here, the sense of them was like a goat of milk, because the most advanced version has a minimum height of damage of 15m. Our P-270 Moskit, which was put into service 5 years after the construction of the lead ship Oliver Hazard Perry, flew on a low trajectory at an altitude of 10-7 meters. Accordingly, knocking them down with the Standard was impossible. By the way, the 9M96 you mentioned has a minimum height of 5 meters.
  15. 0
    21 October 2015 03: 44
    We are able to build ourselves !!! And why the heck feed the custodians. It is not clear why so long ??? The armament is impressive.
  16. 0
    21 October 2015 08: 05
    Quote: OQtagooi
    Yeah, they did. Only here, the sense of them was like a goat of milk, because the most advanced version has a minimum height of damage of 15m. Our P-270 Moskit, which was put into service 5 years after the construction of the lead ship Oliver Hazard Perry, flew on a low trajectory at an altitude of 10-7 meters. Accordingly, knocking them down with the Standard was impossible. By the way, the 9M96 you mentioned has a minimum height of 5 meters.

    So what? It was about quantity. About quality if, i.e. height of interception, the same "Americans" were armed not only with "Standards". but also other anti-aircraft complexes. The point is that here our frigate in terms of armament is placed on a par with a cruiser and a destroyer, and they say about the Americans that they were not even close to armament. Alas, they stood ...

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