Baltic defense: the eye sees, yes toothpicks

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Baltic defense: the eye sees, yes toothpicksIn October, the Latvian Ministry of Defense 2015 signed a contract with Lockheed Martin, a US corporation, for the supply of three AN / TPS-77 MRR (Multi-Role Radar) radar for detecting airborne targets to increase air monitoring capabilities.

Currently, the Latvian air force as part of the airspace control squadron already has two AN / TPS-77 radars, purchased under the 2007 contract worth 44 million dollars and deployed at radar posts in the Kala (Ventspils) and Lielvarde areas, as well as one radar station completely stationary version AN / FPS-117 at the radar station in the Audrini area (acquired back in 2003 year).

Knowing the amount of money laid out by Latvia on previously acquired radar, you understand why the amount of the current transaction remains a secret.

Lithuania is taking similar actions. By 2016, Vilnius intends to equip two new long-range radar towers. By 2018, three short-range radars will be commissioned in the country.

The reaction of the majority of residents of Latvia and Lithuania, who asked the question: "Why do we need a radar station?"

Anticipating this kind of indignation, Latvian Defense Minister Raimond Bergmanis tried to give at least some preventive-primitive justifiable comment.

“The acquisition of radars will make a great contribution to strengthening the combat capability and modernization of the National Armed Forces, allowing us to adequately respond to modern threats faced by the NATO countries,” said the head of the Latvian Defense Ministry.

In turn, the commander of the National Armed Forces, Raymond Graube, said that "early warning and understanding of the situation is a prerequisite for timely decisions and an effective response."

However, these statements of military leaders, judging by the reviews on the Internet, did not find support from the local population.

What timely decisions can be made if the 5 warning minutes to the time of “X” do not give anything? Responsiveness? So it will not follow, if it accomplishes what the military and political leadership of Latvia is afraid of.

Well, if the Baltic military wants to see the potential enemy’s missiles more clearly, then binoculars are the best way to monitor the airspace. After all, what perfect equipment do not buy, anyway, it is not possible to make anything to “violators”. But "cheap and angry," and, most importantly, safe, because the air-to-surface missile is very well guided along the beam of the locator, and there is nothing to protect this "land" ...

There are no aircraft of their own, only the German Eurofighter Typhoon fighters participating in the air defense mission are now flying with bombs, which, like their well-known “external fuel tanks”, can come off at any moment and fall on a populated area.

Yes, even the Balts do not have a nuclear submarine, an aircraft carrier and stealth aircraft. One way or another, the government would not forget to put all this on the list of urgent purchases.

The paradox is that even to provide NATO radars, electricity has to be bought at the Leningrad NPP!

It should be noted that the radar is necessary not only to detect air targets, but also to ensure their further destruction. And if there are no air defense weapons, then this is a banal rollback contract. In another way it can not be called. But the Baltic countries, it seems, have extra money, no problems in the social sphere and a complete lack of responsibility among officials who should watch not the air, but the ground space, in order to see the plight of their people.
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  1. +5
    22 October 2015 05: 40
    the supply of three AN / TPS-77 MRR (Multi-Role Radar) airborne radars to enhance airborne control capabilities

    What is this and why? Does the Balts need this? Sold for 5 cents, do not work for themselves.
    1. +7
      22 October 2015 05: 50
      Quote: venaya
      Sold for 5 cents, do not work for themselves.

      it is important for them that it is against us ...
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      2. +10
        22 October 2015 06: 46
        The Ministry of Defense of Latvia in October 2015 signed a contract with American Lockheed Martin Corporation to supply three AN / TPS-77 MRR (Multi-Role Radar) airborne target radars to enhance airborne control capabilities.
        The key word in the article is "American". Those. everything is explained simply - lay down under the client, now they will not go anywhere until he allows!
        1. +6
          22 October 2015 06: 54
          Quote from the article.
          It should be noted that the radar is necessary not only to detect air targets, but also to ensure their further destruction. And if there are no fire defense systems, then this is a banal contract with a rollback. You cannot call it any other way.
          That's exactly the banal contract with a rollback! There is nothing surprising in this.

          NATO, in fact, in terms of trade, partly also exists economically to meet the interests of a corrupt arms lobby to promote military products in the global arms market for sales to other countries - even just in the absence of war.
        2. +4
          22 October 2015 11: 37
          Quote: Dembel 77
          The key word in the article is "from American"


          Nooo))) The key word in the article is "Leningrad NPP"

          The paradox is that even to provide NATO radars, electricity has to be bought at the Leningrad NPP!


          The question is what will prevent the switch from turning off at the right time? )))
          1. +2
            22 October 2015 12: 41
            The question is what will prevent the switch from turning off at the right time? ))) ,,
            this is not an argument, there is a backup power supply. But to apply electronic warfare, that's it.
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    2. +15
      22 October 2015 08: 37
      Everything is simple and clear ... Radars, in fact, are not installed by the Balts, but by the Americans, and despite the Baltic military serving there, all the information is intended and will be used by the USA ... The USA did it very competently, and they sold their equipment to They saved the service and got all the information they need ... And the Balts in the wave of hatred of Russia became completely dependent on the United States and can no longer object to them ... Forgot the hell that it was the Russians who saved them from complete destruction by the crusaders ... Only Russian Lithuanian Union where there were more than 90% of Russians able to resist the invasion of the West ... But they probably didn’t forget, the Baltic creatures are simply corrupt by nature ... I consider it simply necessary to take into account their behavior in Russian relations and adequately build relationships and conduct business .. They don’t buy anything from them, do not transport goods through their territory and don’t go there to rest ... They will shoot us in the back, there’s nothing to feed them ...
      1. +1
        22 October 2015 14: 53
        Well, what’s not clear here? Radars will be used to send GA planes to the peak of Ukropiya. Dill closed their skies for our planes, and the Balts cut down the loot on the plane from Europe to Russia and vice versa.
        1. 0
          24 October 2015 11: 50
          Latvia does not have its own air forces, there is no air defense, but there are radars, probably in order to have time to escape at least somewhere in 5 minutes.
  2. +4
    22 October 2015 05: 46
    These radars will be used by NATO as the forefront of detection. To view our territory.
    1. +1
      22 October 2015 05: 52
      In the photo, by the way, the Royal Air Force radar of Australia, where ...?
    2. +4
      22 October 2015 10: 20
      So you need to find a way to make them blind so that they swell millions, and get trash at the exit.
  3. -3
    22 October 2015 06: 02
    Another fake? I do not see any need for such a purchase.
    1. 0
      22 October 2015 13: 43
      Quote: EvgNik
      I do not see any need for such a purchase.

      excuse me, who are you? .... well, what would you understand in this? .... I mean the geopolitics of sprats .....
      1. +1
        22 October 2015 14: 47
        Quote: gispanec
        I mean the geopolitics of sprats .....

        there is not that there is no geopolitics, there is no logic at all ...
        By the way, the Baltic states came to an honorable fifth place in sexturism according to the armies of NATO countries ...
        1. 0
          24 October 2015 11: 55
          With an 80% probability, the station is capable of detecting a target with an EPR of 300 square meter for 1 kilometers. Judging by the ads.
          http://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed/data/ms2/documents/TPS-77-Fac

          t-Sheet.pdf
  4. +10
    22 October 2015 06: 16
    If sprats really buy radar, then they themselves loudly claim that they are a supply zone for NATO countries. They just give a few extra minutes to their owners at the cost of their worthless life.
    1. 0
      22 October 2015 07: 01
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      They just give a few extra minutes to their owners at the cost of their worthless life.

      my harsh countryman said how he cut off. wink Hello "construction battalion"! congratulations on the first cold today ... I have 16 smile
      1. +4
        22 October 2015 09: 09
        Strongly welcome! I still didn’t see -16, but yesterday -9 with the wind up to 6 \ s didn’t seem to be enough))) That way winter will really come soon laughing So congratulations mutually! drinks
  5. +4
    22 October 2015 06: 18
    What timely decisions can be made if the 5 warning minutes to the time of “X” do not give anything? Responsiveness? So it will not follow, if it accomplishes what the military and political leadership of Latvia is afraid of.


    The author is wrong, five minutes gives a lot ... during this time you can have time to take off your pants, rip them off, read a few lines and stretch the required size of "Galyountime".
  6. +2
    22 October 2015 06: 22
    The paradox is that even to provide NATO radars, electricity has to be bought at the Leningrad NPP!


    That is the conclusion! If you turn off the power supply from the territory of Russia, then until they switch to an emergency power source, they will be "blind" ??? H-yes .... No words.
  7. +4
    22 October 2015 06: 34
    This situation can be described as follows - there are no pants, and I already bought suspenders. With this we congratulate the boisterous politicians of the Baltic states.
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  9. +4
    22 October 2015 06: 59
    Quote: meriem1

    meriem1
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    Today, 06: 22

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    The paradox is that even to provide NATO radars, electricity has to be bought at the Leningrad NPP! That is the conclusion! If you turn off the power supply from the territory of Russia, then until they switch to an emergency power source, they will be "blind" ??? Hmm ... no words


    There will be no blindness. ATS will work (automatic inclusion of a reserve), that is, either a diesel generator will be launched, or switching to another feeder will occur. The timing characteristics of the switch are extremely small.
    1. +2
      22 October 2015 15: 07
      I can clarify the transition to another feeder; almost instantly, fractions of a second. When powered by a diesel generator, depending on the type of DEL up to two minutes. This was checked almost when the emergency DEL was checked and set up. The time to enter the mode depends on the type of DEL.
  10. +4
    22 October 2015 07: 02
    Pitiful, worthless pseudo states, hence the behavior of moseks from the famous Krylov's fable!
    1. -3
      22 October 2015 07: 25
      Quote: Neophyte
      Miserable, worthless

      Well ka, great and mighty, march to school (college). Vacations have not yet begun.
      1. +8
        22 October 2015 07: 48
        In vain irony! Latvia is the only country in the world that has demonstrated a powerful navy that proudly followed the cobblestones during a military parade. Even the leading naval powers cannot do this. Pride rolls over and pride from all the cracks!
  11. +3
    22 October 2015 07: 54
    So this is not purchased for the Balts.
    Gadgets are needed purely to accommodate this radar.
    And the data will go overseas to America.
    And as I understand it, a threat to us
    removed by disconnecting the feeder at LNPP.
    The feeder rubanuli and the radar went out ...
    1. +2
      22 October 2015 09: 36
      I agree with the first, and I don’t think that everything is so primitively simple.
  12. 0
    22 October 2015 09: 35
    I would not be so happy.
  13. +3
    22 October 2015 09: 39
    "Caliber" radars, due to the low altitude, do not see at all, as the American ones did not see them, etc. radars in Syria ... A scow with a "Caliber" will swim up and a rocket will whistle over the radar itself, and it will show the cloudless sky .. It makes me happy ... Let them buy what they want ..
    For me, it would be better to buy x-ray machines, check migrants at the border. Now the bearded will replace the rifles with drug capsules and go, proven paths ...
    1. +1
      23 October 2015 20: 11
      Quote: AlexTires
      "Caliber" radars, due to the low altitude, do not see at all

      Isn't it too bold to spend "Caliber" on them? "Tornado" is enough for the eyes. Let them look at the volley as long as they want. smile
  14. +2
    22 October 2015 09: 49
    To drag military bases from the adversary to oneself is the first thing for the newly-minted Baltic under-states + Ukraine, as well as for the old enemies of Russia, such as Poland.

    It helps the ruling layer to stay in power, and the people get free jobs at the bases for free, and as they all think, Russia was afraid of them, the mighty Estonian soldaten, with fraternal US behind.

    But if a military conflict suddenly shakes and breaks out, then the first blow will be precisely on these bases and on freebie lovers at the expense of Russia.

    What no one thinks about, believing all this is such a joke, the Russian bear growls - growls, gets scared, and even in a den, and they will remain in Europe with Jurmala.

    What is their big mistake.
  15. +1
    22 October 2015 11: 32
    The whole Latvian political elite is corrupt, full of mediocrity, screaming dullness on the verge of cretinism. After 20 years some baboons from some Somalia will live in this territory, the locals will flow to Geyropa!
  16. +2
    22 October 2015 12: 18
    Well, all serious, respectable states (and the Baltic states are certainly solid, I am not afraid of this word "key" in Europe laughing ) there is air defense and only the Baltic countries do not. DISORDER !!! Let them buy, you can even buy more defective laughing not be bad!
  17. +1
    22 October 2015 12: 24
    Well, I think that they merge Old into NATO headquarters
  18. +1
    22 October 2015 12: 30
    The Baltic states are part of large Russia, but for some reason we-Russians have forgotten about this ...
  19. 0
    22 October 2015 12: 32
    All Latvian political reptile is corrupt, complete mediocrity, screaming dullness on the brink of cretinism. After 20 years, some baboons from some Somalia will live in this territory, the locals will flow to Geyropa!
  20. +2
    22 October 2015 13: 18
    Well, if the Baltic military wants to see more clearly the missiles of a potential adversary, then the best tool for observing airspace is binoculars
    OR ON THE TELE LOOK - A PICTURE IS BETTER AND INFA ALREADY PROCESSED - DO NOT HAVE TO THINK OUT
  21. +1
    22 October 2015 13: 47
    So where are Serdyukov and Vasilyeva now working?!?
  22. +1
    22 October 2015 16: 26
    Funny, but there is a reason. They will know and see where they will fly into lobeshnik. winked Although who needs to offend such little things?
  23. +1
    22 October 2015 16: 45
    Latvian Minister of Defense Raymond Bergmanis
    In 1991, he was educated as a chemical engineer at the Riga Technical University; in 2003, he graduated from the Latvian Sports and Pedagogical Academy with a degree in sports work and weightlifting trainer.

    Well, to hell with a military education with such serious training? Che there to defend something: raised, swung, threw what
    From an interview on the situation in Syria:
    But this happens as follows: a man in Baghdad comes an hour before the bombing (I mean the visit of a Russian general to the US embassy an hour before the bombing of Syria. - “Gazeta.Ru”) and says that we will bomb Syria, so please Do not fly over it. It looks like a continuation of what is happening in Ukraine.
    Applause. Curtain!
  24. 0
    22 October 2015 20: 21
    Ventspils, scans the sea and almost the entire gulf.
    Cape Kolka, partly the sea. Ciruli, almost the entire center of the peninsula,
    partially bay. In any case, it almost overlapped
    all Latvia for low altitude targets from 50m and above.
    Oh youth!
  25. 0
    22 October 2015 20: 52
    Quote: Ratmir
    The question is what will prevent the switch from turning off at the right time? )))

    Have you already canceled backup power? Power is only 24,6 kW

    Quote: vladimirw
    Well, I think that they merge Old into NATO headquarters

    And for what else are these stations needed that look through space almost to Moscow ...
  26. 0
    22 October 2015 21: 07
    The article is simply not an article, but a feuilleton. It is easy to read and very funny. And the emphasis is on the fact that the narrow-minded Balts fell for the American layout and once again sponsored their welfare from their own pockets. I would also wonder how this "radar sting" complicates the work our aviation at the present time and what a great deal of preparatory work is now being carried out in the Baltic States to deploy a large NATO contingent (up to several AK).
  27. +1
    23 October 2015 07: 18
    poor countries and such a concrete cut of money that not even a millimeter will make the sky safe for them.
    Well radar, so what? what are they for? so that people have time to collect documents in houses before fleeing?
  28. 0
    23 October 2015 12: 14
    Just for what it’s understandable. To ensure NATO aviation (there’s not one of its own). Everything gradually went to this (old Soviet airfields were built) What’s next? It’s also predictable that aviation will be built up.

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