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The expert has calculated that in 1992-2011 years in Russia, approximately 22,5 million Russians have died out!

More than a year has passed since the time of the All-Russian Population Census-2010, and Rosstat is still unable to sum up its results in many of the most important indicators. Yes, in March of this year, we were announced (in a preliminary, however, the order) the first figures - in terms of total population, its sex composition and urbanization (see the reference). These data (as well as current reports of Rosstat and other departments), by the way, gave the Russian authorities grounds to talk about the outlined "positive trends" - they are reducing, they say, the overall rate of loss of population by Russia, life expectancy is decreasing, mortality is growing, etc. .

But statistics is a crafty thing (we already talked about some of its “quirks” yesterday). And not by chance, apparently, the Rosstat will not in any way sum up the results of the census on such an indicator as the structure of the national composition of the population - the authorities here cannot say anything comforting to the majority of the country's citizens. After all, the indigenous Russia, the Russians, the very ones whose ancestors, in fact, created Great Russia, continue to die out rapidly (for more information about the demographic situation in our country, see our front project).

The terrible quantitative indicators of this process were presented at a round table in October in the State Duma on the topic “Russian people in the Russian Federation: status, problems and prospects” Andrei Pshenitsyn (his speech published the publication “Patriot”).

According to the results of the 2002 census in the historically Russian regions of the Russian Federation - the Central, Northwestern and Volga Federal Districts - the 21 region was recorded, where the proportion of the Russian population was more than 90% of the population: Vologodskaya (96,6%), Tambov (96,5%), Bryansk ( 96,3%), Lipetsk and Kursk (by 95,8%), Oryol (95,3%), Tula (95,2%), Yaroslavl (95,1%), Nizhny Novgorod (95,0%), Vladimirskaya (94,75%), Ryazan (94,5%), Pskov (94,3%), Arkhangelskaya (94,2%), Voronezhskaya (94,1%), Novgorodskaya (93,9%), Ivanovskaya (93,7%), Kaluga (93,5%), Smolenskaya (93,4%), Belgorodskaya (92,9%), TV rskaya (92,5%), Moscow (91,0%).

In his yearbooks of the Rosstat, he continues, he reports indicators of fertility, mortality, natural increase / natural loss (extinction) in each region of the Russian Federation. For calculating the reference point of the extinction figures of the Russian population, the expert uses the following method: among the listed regions, three are taken with the maximum and three with the minimum indicators of natural loss-extinction (excess of mortality over birth rate). Calculates the average, which is multiplied by the current number of Russian people. The result is the reference point for the extinction of the Russian people in a particular year, the expert believes.

According to the 12 census of January 1989, he continues, the number of Russian people in the RSFSR was 119,9 million people. In 1989-1990 and in the first half of 1991, there was a fading natural increase in the Russian people, but at the same time the mass return of Russians to Russia that had begun increased the number of Russians in the RSFSR to at least 121 million people.

However, in the middle of 1991, the Russian death rate exceeded the Russian birth rate, and the Russian people began to die out. According to the 10 census of October 2002, the Russians in the Russian Federation have only 115,9 million left.

Migration gain over 1989-2002 Rosstat showed in 5,5 million people (entered - 11 million, left - 5,5 million). Obviously, this is the minimum guideline for the number of migration gains of the Russian people during this period. Still, the Russians in those years mainly drove into Russia, and did not leave. Based on these figures, the expert roughly determines the current number of the Russian people for a particular year. And discloses in detail the calculations for several years.

1995 year. The maximum extinction coefficients in this year showed: Pskov region (minus 13,1 on 1000 population), Tverskaya (minus 12,3) and Tula (minus 12,1). Minimum: Belgorod (minus 5,4), Bryansk (minus 6,7) and Orlovskaya (minus 7,4). Thus, the average extinction rate for regions where the Russian share is more than 90% of the population turned out to be in 1995 minus 9,5 per 1000 population. For the whole of the Russian Federation, this figure of 1995 of the year was minus 5,7 on 1000.

Suppose (the word “suppose” used by the author here is clearly a stone in the Rosstat garden. - KM.RU), the expert continues that the number of Russian people in 1995 was 119 million. Hence the reference point of the extinction of the Russian people that year turns out to be minus 1 130 000. The total extinction rate in the Russian Federation was minus 840 thousand. It turns out that the natural increase (excess of birth rate over death rate) among Muslims of Russia and all newcomers from external migration was about plus 1995 thousand in 290 year.

The latter should be clarified, the expert notes. With the full-scale extinction of the Russian people and the steady natural growth of the indigenous Muslims of Russia (God forbid to them!) Everything is clear. All the other peoples of Russia, historically fundamental to it, have a total fertility / mortality ratio of about “zero” (based on the official chronicles of Rosstat). And this total figure practically does not affect the total indicator of natural loss (extinction) in the Russian Federation, which publishes the most honest Rosstat, the expert notes.

But here the natural increase among the newcomers from external migration, he continues, is a very separate issue! After all, mainly young and middle-aged people go to Russia, as they are easier to climb. And for them, life in Russia continues in its natural manifestations: they, in particular, give birth to children. And because of their young and middle age, “external” migrants almost do not die, because their older generation remains at historical homeland. That is, this rapidly growing population of the Russian Federation has the same rapidly growing natural growth.

What are the parameters of external migration? Since 2004, the expert writes, I patiently, six times, asked the higher authorities of the Russian Federation about this. Finally, 21 February 2011 of the year received a letter in its address from the Federal Migration Service from 08.02.2011 #MCN-3 / 2383, which was signed by the head of the Organization and Analysis Department, Ms. E.A. Radochina. And it contains border control data on the total entry into Russia and the total exit from it for the 2005-2010. I quote, writes Pshenitsyn, only one paragraph of this wonderful letter:

"2005 year. The total number of completed migration card forms received from border agencies of the FSB of Russia is 25 506 720; including: entry parts - 14 226 286, exit parts - 11 280 434.

From these data of the FSB Border Guard Service, it follows that the migration increase (excess of entry into Russia over exit from it) in 2005 was 2 945 852 (14 226 286 - 11 280 434). And Rosstat informed us, reminds Pshenitsyn, only about 107 432 (177 entered 230, 69 798 left) migrants. Hence, the hidden (not reflected by Rosstat reports) part of the migration increment was 2 838 418 (2 945 852 - 107 432). As they say in Odessa: "Feel two big differences!"

The specified letter of the FMS directly informs that the actual (!) Migration increase recorded by the Frontier Service of the FSB of Russia for 2005-2010 was recorded. compiled 12 888 774. And Rosstat informed us that the long-term migration increase registered (!) By the territorial bodies of the FMS for 2005-2010 amounted to only 1 127 328. Thus, the unregistered, and therefore the hidden part of the migration increase for 2005-2010. (not reflected by the Chronicles of Rosstat) amounted to 11 761 446 people.

If we take the average annual migration increase for 2 million, the expert continues, then for 1992-2011. Migration increase (excess of entry into Russia over leaving it) was at least 40 million! This is the annual migration growth caused by the rapidly growing natural growth of this population group in the Russian Federation, as mentioned in several paragraphs above. And Rosstat also shows that the migration increase for 1992-2011. made up just a little over 6,5 million

We fix once again. With a general extinction rate for the Russian Federation in 1995, 840 thousand and the reference point of the extinction figures of the Russian people in that year - the “minus” of 1 130 000 natural increase (birth rate over death rate) among Muslims of Russia and all alien peoples from external migration in 1995 approximately 290 thousand

2000 year. The maximum extinction coefficients in this year showed: Pskov region (minus 14,9 per 1000 population), Tula (minus 14,2) and Tverskaya (minus 14,1). Minimum: Vologodskaya (minus 7,2), Belgorod (minus 7,5) and Lipetsk (minus 8,7). The average extinction rate for regions where the Russian share is more than 90% of the population turned out to be in 2000 minus 11,1 per 1000 population. By the way, this indicator 2000 of the year for the whole of the Russian Federation amounted to minus 6,6 on 1000.

Suppose, continues to Pshenitsyn, that the number of Russian people in 2000 was 117 million people. Hence, the reference figure for the extinction of the Russian people in that year is minus 1 300 000. The total extinction rate in the Russian Federation was minus 958,5 thousand. It turns out that the natural increase (excess of birth rate over death rate) among Muslims of Russia and all newcomers from external migration was about plus 2000 thousand in 340 year.

2005 year. The maximum extinction coefficients in this year showed: Pskov region (minus 15,7 per 1000 population), Tula (minus 14,2) and Tverskaya (minus 13,7). Minimum: Belgorod (minus 7,1), Vologda (minus 8,3) and Lipetsk (minus 8,6). The average extinction rate for regions where the Russian share is more than 90% of the population turned out to be in 2005 minus 11,25 per 1000 population. By the way, this indicator 2005 of the year for the whole of the Russian Federation amounted to minus 5,9 on 1000.

Suppose an expert argues that the number of Russian people in 2005 was 114 million. Hence, the reference point of the extinction of the Russian people that year is minus 1 285 000. The overall rate of extinction in the Russian Federation was minus 846,5 thousand. It turns out that the natural increase in Muslims of Russia and all newcomers from external migration in 2005 was about plus 440 thousand.

2010 year. The maximum extinction coefficients in this year showed: Pskov region (minus 10,5 per 1000 population), Tula (minus 9,3) and Tverskaya (minus 9,0). Minimum: Belgorod (minus 3,8), Vologda (minus 3,85) and Lipetsk (minus 5,3). The average extinction rate for regions where the Russian share is more than 90% of the population turned out to be in 2010 minus 7,0 per 1000 population. By the way, this indicator 2010 of the year for the whole of the Russian Federation was only minus 1,7 on 1000.

Suppose the expert continues that the number of Russian people in 2010 was 111 million. Hence, the reference point of the extinction of the Russian people that year is minus 770 000. The total extinction rate in the Russian Federation was minus 240 thousand. It turns out that the natural increase in Muslims of Russia and all newcomers from external migration was approximately plus 2010 thousand in 530. Pay attention, the author notes, how this figure is steadily growing!

As a result of all calculations, it turns out that for 1992-2011. in Russia, an estimated 22,5 million Russians have died out! Not dead - this is not a mortality indicator, and did not die, namely, it died out! And not the average "dear Russians", which does not know any science, namely - Russian!

At the same time, I hope, Pshenitsyn notes, that in Russia as a whole, the demography of the Russian people is still better than its average in the historically Russian regions, in which the Russian share is more than 90% of the population. But even in this case there is every reason to assert that the figure of the extinction of the Russian people during the 1992-2011 years. mark in 20 million has already passed!

Summing up. Over 1992-2011 in present-day Russia, the general indicator of natural loss-extinction (excess of mortality over birth rate) was, according to Rosstat's “data”, minus 13,5 million people. The historically indigenous for Russia Muslims (may God bless them!) And all alien peoples from external migration show a natural increase of at least 6,5 million people. And the Russian people became extinct by no less than 20 million.

Such is the Russian share in the “new democratic” Russia, the author concludes.

Well, as an illustration of their calculations, the publication that published them gives the following diagram:

“You do not need to conquer. You will free the land yourself. ”


True, the illustration clearly demonstrates the dynamics of the reduction in the total (and not just the Russian share) of the population of Russia. But if we now know how much more rapidly - against the background of the general population - it is the Russian population of Russia that is dying out, then the picture emerges even more terrible.
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  1. Lech e-mine
    -33
    16 November 2011 13: 41
    BIG LAGGAGE. THE AUTHOR FOR EARS WILL ATTRACTION HUSBANDS AND FACTS.
    1. +40
      16 November 2011 14: 26
      Open your eyes wider and take off your pink glasses. The reality is even worse. What is the average life expectancy in Russia? Compare with life expectancy in countries that were defeated in World War II. The result, unfortunately, is not in our favor. Therefore, before hanging labels on the author, a thorough analysis is necessary. Good luck.
      1. +8
        16 November 2011 15: 23
        Quote: AleksUkr
        life expectancy in Russia?


        Why go far, I’ll give the figures Russia 129th place


        All countries / Lists /
        Life expectancy in the countries of the world

        Rank Country Average duration
        life, years husband. female
        1 Andorra 82,75 80.4 85.1
        2 Japan 82,15 78.7 85.6
        3 San Marino 82 78.4 85.6
        4 Singapore 82 79.3 84.7
        5 France 81 77.7 84.3
        6 Australia 80,7 77.8 83.6
        7 Switzerland 80,7 77.8 83.6
        8 Sweden 80,7 78.4 83
        9 Iceland 80,45 78.3 82.6
        10 Canada 80,45 77 83.9
        11 Italy 80,05 77 83.1
        12 Monaco 79,95 76 83.9
        13 Norway 79,9 76.5 83.3
        14 Israel 79,9 76.5 83.3
        15 Spain 79,9 76.5 83.3
        16 Liechtenstein 79,8 76.2 83.4
        17 Greece 79,5 76.9 82.1
        18 Austria 79,3 76.3 82.3
        19 Malta 79,25 77 81.5
        20 Luxembourg 79,15 75.8 82.5
        21 South Korea 79,1 78.1 80.1
        22 Netherlands 79,05 76.8 81.3
        23 New Zealand 79,05 76 82.1
        24 Germany 79,05 76 82.1
        25 Belgium 79 75.8 82.2
        26 United Kingdom 78,75 76.2 81.3
        27 Finland 78,75 75.2 82.3
        28 Jordan 78,6 76 81.2
        29 Bosnia and Herzegovina 78,3 74.6 82
        30 United States of America 78,1 75.2 81
        31 Cyprus 78,05 75.6 80.5
        32 Denmark 78,05 75.7 80.4
        33 Portugal 78 74.6 81.4
        34 Ireland 78 75.3 80.7
        35 Albania 77,75 75 80.5
        36 Kuwait 77,4 76.3
        37 Costa Rica 77,25 74.6 79.9
        38 Chile 77,05 73.7 80.4
        39 Libya 76,9 74.6 79.2
        40 Slovenia 76,65 72.8 80.5
        41 Poland 76,65 73.9 79.4
        42 Ecuador 76,65 73.7 79.6
        43 Georgia 76,55 73 80.1
        44 Czech Republic 76,5 73.1 79.9
        45 Argentina 76,4 72.6 80.2
        46 Uruguay 76 72.7 79.3
        47 Cuba 75,95 72.6 79.3
        48 Saudi Arabia 75,95 73.9 78
        49 Mexico 75,95 73.1 78.8
        50 United Arab Emirates 75,8 73.2 78.4
        51 Trinidad and Tobago 75,45 76.8
        52 Paraguay 75,4 72.8 78
        53 Tunisia 75,4 73.6 77.2
        54 Brunei 75,35 73.1 77.6
        55 Serbia 75,2 72.5 77.9
        56 Dominica 75,2 72.2 78.2
        57 Croatia 75,05 71.3 78.8
        58 Slovakia 75,05 71 79.1
        59 Sri Lanka 74,85 72.8 76.9
        60 Panama 74,85 72.7 77
        61 Bahrain 74,75 72.2 77.3
        62 Montenegro 74,6 72.4 76.8
        63 Lithuania 74,6 69.5 79.7
        64 Macedonia 74,3 71.7 76.9
        65 Saint Lucia 74,2 70.5 77.9
        66 Qatar 74,2 71.6 76.8
        67 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 74,1 72.2 76
        68 Oman 73,7 71.4 76
        69 Algeria 73,45 71.9
        70 Venezuela 73,35 70.2 76.5
        71 Suriname 73,3 70.5
        72 Lebanon 73,25 70.7 75.8
        73 Bulgaria 73,2 70 76.4
        74 Solomon Islands 73,2 70.6 75.8
        75 Jamaica 73,15 71.4 74.9
        76 Dominican Republic 73,1 71.3 74.9
        77 Hungary 73,05 68.7 77.4
        78 Barbados 73 71 75
        79 China 72,95 71.1 74.8
        80 Turkey 72,95
        81 Mauritius 72,9 68.9 76.9
        82 Malaysia 72,9 70.1 75.7
        83 Brazil 72,75 69 76.5
        84 Saint Kitts and Nevis 72,75 69.8 75.7
        85 Thailand 72,6 70.2 75
        86 Estonia 72,5 66.9 78.1
        87 Seychelles 72,45 67 77.9
        88 Antigua and Barbuda 72,45 70 74.9
        89 Armenia 72,4 68.5 76.3
        90 Colombia 72,3 68.4 76.2
        91 Romania 72 68.4 75.6
        92 North Korea 72 69.2 74.8
        93 El Salvador 71,9 68.2 75.6
        94 Latvia 71,75 66.4 77.1
        95 Egypt 71,6 69 74.2
        96 Samoa 71,4 68.5 74.3
        97 Morocco 71,3 68.9 73.7
        98 Vietnam 71,2 68.3 74.1
        99 Cape Verde 71,05 67.7
        100 Nicaragua 70,95 68.8 73.1
        101 Palau 70,8 67.5 74.1
        102 Syria 70,65 69.3 72
        103 Marshall Islands 70,65 68.6 72.7
        104 Iran 70,6
        105 Philippines 70,6 67.6 73.6
        106 Federated States of Micronesia 70,4 68.5 72.3
        107 Moldova 70,3 66.5 74.1
        108 Indonesia 70,25 67.7 72.8
        109 Tonga 70,2 67.6 72.8
        110 Fiji 70,2 67.6 72.8
        111 Belarus 70,2 64.3 76.1
        112 Peru 70,15 68.3 72
        113 Guatemala 69,7 67.9 71.5
        114 Honduras 69,4 67.8 71
        115 Iraq 69,35 68 70.7
        116 Kyrgyzstan 68,9 64.8 73
        117 India 68,75 66.3 71.2
        118 Tuvalu 68,7 66.4 71
        119 Turkmenistan 68,35 65.2 71.5
        120 Belize 68,3 66.4
        121 Ukraine 68,1 62.2 74
        122 Sao Tome and Principe 67,65 66 69.3
        123 Kazakhstan 67,35 61.9 72.8
        124 Mongolia 67,05 64.6 69.5
        125 East Timor 66,65 64.3 69
        126 Azerbaijan 66,3 61.9 70.7
        127 Bolivia 66,25 63.5 69
        128 Guyana 66,25
        129 Russia 66,05 59.1 73
        130 Bahamas 65,7 62.4 69
        131 Papua New Guinea 65,7 63.4 68
        132 Grenada 65,25 63.4 67.1
        133 Uzbekistan 65,1 61.6 68.6
        134 Maldives 64,8 63.4 66.2
        135 Tajikistan 64,7 61.6 67.8
        136 Pakistan 63,75 62.7 64.8
        137 Nauru 63,55 59.9 67.2
        138 Vanuatu 63,25 61.7 64.8
        139 Bangladesh 62,85 62.8 62.9
        140 Comoros 62,8 60.4 65.2
        141 Yemen 62,55 60.6 64.5
        142 Kiribati 62,5 59.4 65.6
        143 Myanmar 62,15 59
        144 Madagascar 62,15 60.2 64.1
        145 Cambodia 61,35 59.3 63.4
        146 Nepal 60,55 60.8 60.3
        147 Eritrea 59,6 57.9 61.3
        148 Ghana 59,55 58.7 60.4
        149 Togo 57,9 55.8 60
        150 Democratic Republic of the Congo 57,25 55 59.5
        151 Haiti 57,1 55.4 58.8
        152 Senegal 56,7 55.3 58.1
        153 Laos 55,9 53.8 58
        154 Kenya 55,3 55.2 55.4
        155 Bhutan 55,2 55.4 55
        156 Gambia 54,6 52.7 56.5
        157 Gabon 54,05 52.9 55.2
        158 Benin 53,45 52.3 54.6
        159 Mauritania 53,4 51.2 55.6
        160 Republic of Congo 53,3 52.1 54.5
        161 Cameroon 52,95 52.3 53.6
        162 Uganda 51,75 50.8 52.7
        163 Burundi 51,3 50.5 52.1
        164 Tanzania 50,7 49.4 52
        165 Botswana 50,6 51.6 49.6
        166 Guinea 49,65 48.5 50.8
        167 Equatorial Guinea 49,55 48.1 51
        168 Mali 49,55 47.6 51.5
        169 Ethiopia 49,25 48.1 50.4
        170 Burkina Faso 49,25 47.7 50.8
        171 Sudan 49,1 48.2 50
        172 Rwanda 49,05 47.9 50.2
        173 Côte d'Ivoire 49,05 46.4 51.7
        174 Somalia 48,9 47.1 50.7
        175 Nigeria 47,45 46.8 48.1
        176 Chad 47,25 46.2 48.3
        177 Guinea-Bissau 47,2 45.4 49
        178 Niger 44,05 44.1 44
        179 Afghanistan 43,8 43.6
        180 Central African Republic 43,75 43.7 43.8
        181 Djibouti 43,3 41.9 44.7
        182 Namibia 43,1 44.4
        183 Malawi 43 43.4 42.6
        184 Republic of South Africa 42,45 43.2 41.7
        185 Mozambique 40,9 41.4 40.4
        186 Sierra Leone 40,65 38.4 42.9
        187 Liberia 40,4 38.9 41.9
        188 Lesotho 39,95 40.7
        189 Zimbabwe 39,5 40.6 38.4
        190 Zambia 38,4 38.3
        191 Angola 37,65 36.7 38.6
        192 Swaziland 32,2 31.8 32.6
        1. Lech e-mine
          -1
          16 November 2011 16: 03
          DEAR VADIVAC, CALL THE SOURCE.
        2. Cheburatino
          0
          April 28 2012 13: 26
          According to the UN, the average life expectancy in Russia is more than 70 years. Did you get the information on the Polish site?)) And then they have their own reality there.
      2. Lech e-mine
        -4
        16 November 2011 16: 01
        THERE IS THE ANALYSIS IN THE ARTICLE THERE IS NOT ONE CHERNISH. WHERE IS THE RELIABLE STATISTICS? IT IS POSSIBLE TO REMARK ON THIS TOPIC WHAT IS PLEASANT. SPECIFIC DOCUMENTS ARE NOT REQUIRED WHAT THE AUTHOR WANTS TO SEE. (GIVE THE RELIABLE SOURCES! WHICH YOU CAN CHECK)
        1. per3526
          +10
          16 November 2011 16: 23
          Calm down and drive the cat with caps lock
          1. +7
            16 November 2011 17: 39
            apparently she took root there winked
            my maruska also likes to walk on the clave
    2. Mesniy
      +16
      16 November 2011 17: 58
      that this is all true, one can be convinced very simply: not a single bank gives a loan and does not accept a guarantor of a person of retirement age, while the income of this person does not matter. That's the whole damn thing.
    3. mind1954
      -1
      17 November 2011 05: 40
      Great reaction to the article!
      Chur me! Chur!
      Of course, you can live and ostrich, but all my life
      you won’t live with your head in the sand.
      1. Cheburatino
        0
        April 28 2012 13: 22
        Ostriches do not hide their heads in the sand.
  2. +27
    16 November 2011 13: 52
    but nevertheless, statistics is a stubborn thing - not by hearsay I know about the Pskov region - just w0pa !!!!! There was a city - became smt - where did people go !? how many fathers of friends — died from vodyara before they reached 50 — it’s simple, there’s no work, and so on and so forth — so that the facts are far from the ears drawn to regret recourse
    1. -39
      16 November 2011 14: 21
      Firstly, what is this nickname? Pindos? Here there, my dear, and go and there in the comments and leave your unreasonable fence inscriptions.
      Secondly, what are your links? Do you personally own statistical information? Announce the source, otherwise it is nonsense!
      1. per3526
        +22
        16 November 2011 14: 44
        And what are you all about links, such as some kind of document, it’s enough for your computer to sit out your pants, go outside and see for yourself who is dying and who is appearing.
        Do not be alarmed if they do not understand you in Russian.
        RS: and I can throw you all sorts of links, ddlolliamvavu, but about the nickname is true ...
        1. -36
          16 November 2011 14: 56
          Um. It is you who owe the Pindos service duty to spoil here, and today I have left for free. And on the street - 3-storey cottages, Lexus full hybrid and security ...
          PS Your nickname, nickname, he rolls on "Perdushka"!
          PS2. You absolutely do not own Runet, do not write here anymore - you are ridiculous and incompetent!
          1. per3526
            +17
            16 November 2011 16: 05
            You haven’t taken time off, you have an attack of envy! Even if you were surrounded by barracks and Lada. Do not walk, but you need to work! ---- Yes, I have a cool car.
            The last line is finally a pearl! - Yes, I do not own Runet, Gazprom and not a single galaxy belongs to me, but I do not despair.
            1. -1
              17 November 2011 06: 43
              here you work, probably only for this very cool car. laughing
        2. +16
          16 November 2011 17: 43
          But the fact that Russia does not understand who is to blame ?!
          on one forum one complained, like the wife was driving home, the Gaster hit the bus, she was forced to leave earlier, and when asked what the other passengers did, there was a shocking answer, they can with a knife, bl ..., yes, if we allow to humiliate their women, that the hell do we need on earth ????
      2. Mesniy
        +9
        16 November 2011 18: 08

        For millibyte
        In the first, what kind of avatar is? Bestial? So go to the forest and yap from there.
        In the second, justify that this is nonsense.
        1. Anatoly
          -1
          17 November 2011 00: 00

          Mesniy
          - You have recently been happy with biting remarks and clever thoughts. Respect!
          1. Mesniy
            +1
            17 November 2011 14: 46
            flattered, flattered, although probably getting old, just wink
            by the way, gulchat, open your face fellow
      3. +3
        16 November 2011 19: 00
        source wink - the source, I visit there periodically, and I have relatives there - I see without the Internet, links - the city cemetery. can tell you about Siberia without statistics and other things !? I also lived there, I know a lot of interesting things!


        About Nick - guys - not Pendossky - but intergalactic! wink you generally see what you write: Millibyte and per3526 are like Russian nicknames! ?????????? fellow
        1. per3526
          0
          17 November 2011 20: 24
          I have a nickname shortening from a surname, numbers ... well, just for the sake of difference. I consider indecent a nickname for myself as a fairy-tale hero.
          I do not insist on my opinion, be called at least a pot wink
    2. +7
      16 November 2011 17: 41
      Well, there’s no work in the city, so it’s possible to get to the ground and create work for yourself, if you have hands, you won’t die of hunger, and you won’t drink vodka
      1. +3
        16 November 2011 19: 00
        Are you an idealist or very far from the earth
        you will not die of hunger on it, but you won’t especially eat
        1. +1
          16 November 2011 19: 28
          Quote: Denis
          Are you an idealist or very far from the earth

          smiled, I live in the countryside I breed lambs, I started from scratch, I arrived from the Republic of Kazakhstan according to the program
          Quote: Denis
          you will not die of hunger, but you won’t especially eat

          maybe you can’t buy an Abramovitch’s yacht, but on the other hand, is it necessary ?!
          you will work abundance, although of course everything is individual, if a villa on the islands is required under normal abundance, then of course it’s unlikely
          1. +1
            16 November 2011 20: 05
            what kind of yacht-villa would it be
            But how many difficulties with sales, equipment, etc., were?
            1. +1
              16 November 2011 20: 58
              there are no difficulties, I’m not hiring my equipment yet, I am investing everything in livestock, now I am making another 15 hectares for rent and I think about another 20 hectares if possible, the guys come to buy wholesalers for the purchase, they certainly do not give the highest price, there are buyers it’s normal there, sometimes to the bazaar, but it’s not very good yet, you still need to raise the population to be more profitable.
          2. CARTRIDGE
            0
            17 November 2011 20: 58
            Well done! I am in complete solidarity with you!
            I am for the revival of the village, then there will be population growth! And people will be more humane!

            Well done! I am in complete solidarity with you!
            I am for the revival of the village, then there will be population growth! And people will be more humane!
        2. +1
          17 November 2011 00: 34
          wink
          ... but you won’t especially eat


          So here's the thing ... wink
        3. +1
          20 November 2011 23: 28
          Guys, you're often all about earth and earth. Do you want to get used to the statistics consistent? How old is it? And you are closer to the earth.
  3. Motherland
    -17
    16 November 2011 14: 25
    For how many years this canoe has been crammed into us, terrifying statistics, etc.
    The disinformation is continuous ..
    1. +4
      17 November 2011 03: 04
      Of course, you did not live in our time, dear Dmitry, and you could not see that kindergartens and schools are crowded, there are more young people in the villages (even the most provincial) than the elderly. You, dear Dmitry, travel around Russia and see for yourself what has become, or better yet, join the army.
      1. Motherland
        -1
        17 November 2011 16: 55
        Apparently I incorrectly formulated my thought.
  4. zczczc
    +24
    16 November 2011 15: 09
    Well, we need the "nationality" column to increase the birth rate of dying peoples. Otherwise, how can you tell?

    In general, so that they do not say about the communists, that they are "incapable", "suede", etc., but the Russian people under the communists breathed deeply and the birth rate was excellent!
    1. SAVA555.IVANOV
      +14
      16 November 2011 17: 05
      And WE ALL also lived and breathed deeply and all republics were confident in the future and felt like citizens
      1. zczczc
        +14
        16 November 2011 17: 43
        SAVA555.IVANOV, Asians under the Union in general from the feudal system in the 20th century stepped over several decades. Who should fight for the Union is the Asian republics.

        And, I draw your attention, - the column of nationality did not interfere with this process! There were no interethnic conflicts. To know the matter is not in the graph, but in power.
        1. Mesniy
          +1
          16 November 2011 18: 13
          Come on, "There were no interethnic conflicts"! You did not live in the national republics to see.
          1. Serush
            -1
            16 November 2011 18: 34
            I lived and live, so do not drive ....
            1. Mesniy
              +1
              17 November 2011 14: 52
              don’t drive, where do you live? I lived in Lithuania and from the 3rd grade regularly fought with Lithuanians in a variety of formulations. when we worked at the aircraft repair plant, we walked from work to the pvd (air pressure receiver - a stinging baton from stainless steel) under jackets , walked through the outskirts (forest park), and regularly Labas waited for us.
              1. 0
                17 November 2011 19: 58
                announce the bill
              2. Serush
                -1
                29 November 2011 21: 19
                We, Chmyr who could not stand up for themselves and went with knives, were called surgeons ....
          2. zczczc
            +1
            17 November 2011 01: 18
            Mesniy, did not live, only stayed. It was like in Jurmala. Before the trip, some said that they did not like Russians there. Outwardly, this did not appear in any way. But the distance in the level of education of the local people was obvious - politeness at the household level. And remember what happened after the collapse with the Russians there.

            I know only one case of extremism in Tajikistan during the Union’s era in relation to the Russian parents of a girl who looked like a Tajik. This happens :)
            1. Mesniy
              +1
              17 November 2011 14: 55
              Jurmala is not an indicator, you would have asked for a way in Riga in the 70-80s, and besides, as the union grunted, time passed, and now this problem has practically disappeared there.
        2. SAVA555.IVANOV
          +2
          17 November 2011 00: 39
          THAT'S IT!!!! AND WE ARE NOW "BREAKING" BEFORE THEIR AUL UPBREEDING THANKS TO SALE GARBAGE AND NUCLEAR OFFICIALS
          1. zczczc
            +1
            17 November 2011 01: 20
            SAVA555.IVANOVWell, what is the conclusion? Disclosing the nationality of each reduces problems.
        3. 0
          17 November 2011 06: 51
          [quThere were no ethnic conflictsote] [/ quote]
          1. +2
            17 November 2011 07: 13
            damn wrote the answer zczczc an error popped up, (there were no interethnic conflicts) were especially in the armies,
        4. Marat
          +2
          17 November 2011 22: 20
          As an "Asian" I will support you zczczc! But if it's no joke - then really - none of the Kazakhs of the older generation complains about life under the USSR. And many remember those times with warmth. Despite the oligarchs and corruption, our leadership is pursuing a social policy out of "inertia" from the USSR

          What was the mere compensation of tens of thousands of equity-holders deprived of the crisis (left without housing and with loans). As in the USSR in the spring, sowing and in the fall, harvesting, etc.
          I think that after reunification, Kazakhstan will be a "red zone" like the Kemerovo region and other "red" regions of Russia. By the way, Belarus can also become a "red zone" - so the position of the Communist Party will strengthen with integration
          1. -2
            17 November 2011 22: 24
            take off your pink glasses
  5. +1
    16 November 2011 15: 15
    The cycle takes place over the centuries, then growth, then fertility, do not be afraid nature itself will put everything and everyone in their places
    1. Mesniy
      +5
      16 November 2011 18: 20
      here it is chock and spreads all over Russia
      1. SAVA555.IVANOV
        +4
        16 November 2011 21: 06
        Mesniy Exactly)))) and the corrupt officials and their bitch have nothing to do with the fact that the Russian people are dying and from poverty and despair do not have children, and if they give birth, then one and a maximum of two
  6. ESCANDER
    +6
    16 November 2011 15: 23
    Yes, no, well right now pregnant women are much more than before.
    Already glad that people are working on it.
    1. +7
      16 November 2011 16: 16
      Not just a lot, but a lot. In the spring, like mommy's snowdrops with strollers.

      And the question is, who is stopping the Russians from giving birth? Who makes us thump, inject, do abortions in millions? Why, ceteris paribus, there are only more Muslims, their families are not uncommon 3 or more children. Do you-Russian writers write comments on this article, how many children?
      1. ZEBRASH
        +14
        16 November 2011 16: 44
        I often see pregnant women on our street, I used to think: "Finally they started giving birth!", And then "suddenly" I learned that on our street in the same house on the ground floor there is a women's consultation wink
      2. lightforcer
        +7
        16 November 2011 17: 11
        If they do not give birth, then they are afraid. As it is now very clearly visible demographic hole of the early 90's.
        1. -1
          17 November 2011 15: 17
          Yeah, pregnant women walk around the house ZEBRASHand waiting for better times wink
      3. Mesniy
        +7
        16 November 2011 18: 21
        Well, officially two.
        1. zczczc
          +1
          17 November 2011 01: 22
          Mesniyso that there is no decrease in population, you need 2,11 children per couple. It is only for maintenance.
          1. Mesniy
            +1
            17 November 2011 14: 58
            Well, I still have it on the side, and I’m not stopping, I won’t take social obligations, but I’ll put it, so to speak ....
  7. +6
    16 November 2011 15: 46
    That the population has declined every year by 2 million people is no secret for a long time !!!
    but the fact that this year for the first time in Russia the birth rate exceeded mortality is interesting news;)) and even only for 2 months, but the schedule presented in the article still gradually turns into a hyperbole
    1. +7
      16 November 2011 16: 18
      Everything will be fine, only it is not necessary to whine, but it is better to improve the demographic situation personally in your family. And then all sorts of screaming and critics dohren, but to take something yourself try to do is not enough.
      1. Serush
        +1
        16 November 2011 18: 35
        How many children do you personally have?
        1. +6
          16 November 2011 19: 09
          I have two little sons so far, but we are not going to stop there, we want 4 wink
          1. +2
            16 November 2011 22: 00
            here is what a bastard minus kos-u slapped?
            for what? angry
      2. Anatoly
        +2
        17 November 2011 00: 03
        This is true ... I’ll go as I comrades to correct the demographic situation. winked
        But Obama, Chavez, Syria and Putin will rest for now ...
  8. +14
    16 November 2011 15: 58
    do not wait!
    so that there was a population growth, we should not be afraid
    But how to feed and raise children with such income?
    1. +12
      16 November 2011 16: 05
      I will be 25 years old, the son of 2 years, a year later I still want a daughter, the means allow;)) what are we talking about? if you have brains and hands you can live in Russia
      1. +3
        16 November 2011 18: 33
        Your words yes leadership in the ears
        You can’t live everywhere, only survive in many places
      2. +1
        16 November 2011 19: 11
        Mlyn, I don’t complain about life, I make good money, but don’t forget that everyone can’t make good money, that’s how the world works - someone has to do dirty work, and unfortunately for the minuscule! here is your occupation and approximate earnings! ??? let's kind of poll - and see how we live on average !? Tell me how you got such a good job !? can all your friends boast like that !? I have a millionaire acquaintance - the guy also lives and does not complain about how much the average salary in the city is - and how much a one-room apartment costs! ???? I'm already silent about providing a child! if you’ve settled down well, you’re sitting in a warm place, it doesn’t mean that you are so unique, and everyone who doesn’t have it is just brainless people ... this is unreasonable vanity ....
    2. +8
      16 November 2011 16: 27
      Of course, it’s understandable that you want to give your child the best, and you need money for it. Well, how do chocks produce? They have no level at all in comparison with our standard of living, and they don’t need it. We need a state program, a real one, iron and not half measures, so that our women know that the state will help with food, medical care, clothing, diapers, etc. And instead, we have some kind of maternal capital that you will not use and which crooks have learned to use, and queues in the kindergarten.
      1. +3
        16 November 2011 16: 51
        Such a program has long been running, HUSB called;)) And with honey. provision and free medicines in our city are in full order with baby food too !!!
      2. +2
        16 November 2011 19: 32
        What kind of a nigga, in what other country do mothers of two children pay 10000 euros?
        And to use it is quite possible. (I took advantage)

        And government programs need to start somewhere. carry out some kind of pilot projects, watch how it works in real life, make corrections, changes, all this takes time. The main thing is that there are shifts in this direction.
        It is impossible to immediately take and develop a program that will take into account all the nuances, everyone likes and at the same time be financially feasible, especially in such a huge country as ours.

        Queues in the kindergarten is yes, but this problem did not appear yesterday.
    3. +6
      16 November 2011 19: 22
      This is a typical excuse. if our ancestors followed this logic, the Russian population would have died out more than once. (in the times of Ancient Russia, when the neighboring nomadic peoples constantly raided (they came to us as work) it was easier to live, in troubled times life was probably easier, or during / after world wars)
      Of course, material well-being is important, but not decisive.
      For this I wrote about Muslims, no one pays extra for the practice of Islam, they live in the same conditions, but why not be afraid to give birth, and are we so fearful?
      Who will crush the country?
  9. +5
    16 November 2011 16: 05
    in order to stop the demographic recession, the government urgently needs to adopt new programs for educating young people the fight against alcohol, cigarettes and drugs, which Americans transport by military transport sides from Afghanistan with impunity through their Kyrgyz military base not only to Europe but also to us
  10. +8
    16 November 2011 16: 09
    God grant that he turns into a hyperbole, but while the attempts of power are very weak, more help is needed for young families. If the state would give one for the birth of the first-born, I think the young mother and dad did not hesitate and the second became clumsy, because the angle, although small, is different. Yes, and a lot of crimes against the person, a lot of young people
    1. +4
      16 November 2011 16: 17
      I’m afraid then we would have a bunch of children who were homeless, I don’t mean anyone. but many are ready for much for the sake of money!
      Well, say that almost any student is ready to sleep with a guy if he has an Audi Q7
      1. +1
        16 November 2011 22: 07
        Andrey, you are wrong!
        Not every student is ready for this. Moscow and St. Petersburg are possible (there are very few acquaintances from there), but in the other cities the situation is the opposite - almost any student will send away (I defended myself in September - this was not close at my university (almost 10k full-time students).
      2. +1
        17 November 2011 03: 24
        Not Andrew, experimented. From a gorgeous foreign car, they back away like hell from incense, and if on a golem classic, then they twist the shaft, they see that the guys are simple (theirs) and relax.
  11. +13
    16 November 2011 16: 32
    In vain you are so urzul, the picture from your nickname knows perfectly well what program of stimulating young families was in the GDR, I had a chance to live there with my parents for 5 years. I'm not talking about money, about other mate. benefits, but in our cold country, housing is the main braking force in creating a family. But with maternal capital, the mechanism is buratsky, although the idea was initially not bad
    1. +2
      16 November 2011 16: 57
      I would not say that in vain, I just see I know the current youth, the lost generation, Housing agrees to the problem, he lived in a hostel for 4 years, but as the saying goes "if the state will fully provide young families, then all and sundry will be registered , and give birth to children. But it's not enough to give birth, who will educate ?? Not really those who are used to getting everything for free ???
      PS I do not put you cons !!!
  12. George
    +5
    16 November 2011 17: 05
    Yes, some do not need to live at all: they thump without waking up and breed like cockroaches. They live like worms. And what is the use of worms ?, only if you go fishing, on a bream.
    1. +2
      16 November 2011 18: 34
      and we feed them through benefits, we who pay taxes
      1. +3
        17 November 2011 03: 39
        And in the end, it turned out 5 MILLIONS of street children (the size of the Soviet army). It would be better if they created an apparatus that would catch these street children, and the military would recruit them to special schools. This would be how many recruits of personnel would have turned out ... It would be better for them (children) to have money of the Defense Ministry than in a new form and dubious foreign military developments.
        1. +2
          17 November 2011 07: 25
          But with this I agree with you, and there you look and the onset of drug addiction will go to decline.
        2. +1
          17 November 2011 07: 45
          they won’t accept, kickbacks do not shine there
  13. ESCANDER
    +5
    16 November 2011 17: 15
    urzul
    No offense - you are only 25 years old, and seriously talk about the "lost generation".
    I don’t know where you are watching him so clearly. At least, my younger sister (one year older than you) provides both herself and the mercenaries, and she pays taxes rightly and friends (of whom there are many) fit her. I often see them and am happy for them. And those whom you see in the gates in an unsightly form is not yet an indicator of “the whole generation”.
    Komsomolets
    I totally agree.
    1. +1
      16 November 2011 18: 23
      I'm talking about those who are now from 15 to 18 years, take a closer look. I’m also not a niche either, I have an 2 car apartment and a cottage, I earned everything with my own brains, and not as a gift to someone !! What kind of mercenaries do you mean ??? Yes, and taxes in my budyut occupy only a fraction of the costs
      1. ESCANDER
        0
        16 November 2011 19: 03
        And why should I take a closer look, my son 18 and his friends and girlfriends are the same.
        I was referring to contract workers.
        And as for “taxes, which occupy a small fraction of expenditures in the budget,” I would not say by myself. Are you hiding?
      2. 0
        17 November 2011 02: 15
        urzul I'm glad for you that everything is so good, God forbid that it would be better and more children. But in our country there are few people like you, that would be more of a look at the elections and there would be no need for fraud. The king would have been worn in his arms. You correctly said about the 15-18-year-olds, but in fact it hurts the whole society, people who have lost their meaning in life and do not see a bright future in the country are millions, but tens of millions ......
        PS I don’t believe about taxes, to some extent hide everything ...
        1. +2
          17 November 2011 05: 06
          Quote: Komsomolets
          I don’t believe in taxes, they hide everything to one degree or another ...

          I hide as I can, I’m ready to contain the army and doctors, teachers, but not a herd of fat creatures from the State Duma
        2. +1
          17 November 2011 09: 06
          I do not hide, since I am the head of production;))) I am for a good pension;))
          1. ESCANDER
            0
            17 November 2011 12: 23
            urzul, is that a joke? About a good retirement?
            1. +1
              17 November 2011 15: 15
              And whatever it is, I know my contributions to the FIU, I have long passed my pension to the NPFR, I see the interest that they earn.
              so what not ??? for you, it’s just hard to say, since you have a son 18, you can assume that you will receive a pension the old way, my parents have a pension 10 and 16 respectively, my father honestly worked all his life like his mother. And they don’t complain a bit, as I help them.
              And the care of their old people, primarily the care of CHILDREN.
              1. -2
                17 November 2011 17: 57
                Quote: Own
                And the care of their old people, primarily the care of CHILDREN.

                child care, bring the last glass of water and then close your eyes
                why should they still be burdened, and for that I have been digging in all the way, so that the children will bother with me then?
                a crappy example, but why don't kids mess with old Pindos old people?
                1. 0
                  17 November 2011 20: 06
                  Quote: Denis
                  why children do not bother with Pindos old people

                  because goats
                  1. 0
                    17 November 2011 21: 22
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    because goats

                    this is understandable, I'm talking about the fact that they are provided without children, cruises are different, etc.
  14. His
    +9
    16 November 2011 17: 44
    Give each child a country! Better than boys
    1. Mesniy
      +12
      16 November 2011 17: 55
      only in your family or in general?
      1. +3
        16 November 2011 18: 00
        Well, this is how the wife will allow wink
        1. Mesniy
          +2
          17 November 2011 18: 11
          well, if everyone will ask his wife in such matters, then he’ll definitely die out
          1. +1
            17 November 2011 20: 07
            well, depending on what kind of wife, and after the first trip to the second, there’s no reason to go, there was a case when the wife was a doctor, they put the faithful to sleep and very correctly as a professional surgeon revealed everything, the husband woke up and as in that poem about the hare
            1. Mesniy
              +2
              17 November 2011 21: 14
              at least you don’t tell such passions at night, you will destroy the entire demography.
              after such horror stories the fact that it’s not sad
              1. +1
                17 November 2011 21: 21
                Russian Women, what do you want ?!
      2. ESCANDER
        +10
        16 November 2011 18: 05
        Well Mesniy, this is to the extent of corruption.
        It is possible and "in general", only then provide later, be kind.
      3. His
        +4
        16 November 2011 19: 36
        Local, you are an optimist however
        1. Mesniy
          +1
          17 November 2011 18: 09
          I am a realist, as it seems to me
  15. Mesniy
    0
    16 November 2011 17: 54
    only in your family or in general?
  16. +6
    16 November 2011 18: 23
    I do not want to seem like a sexist, but when women prefer careers to children, it is very deplorable. Why not compile statistics among office workers? My wife works in a logistics company, the manager-staff is more than 40 people, 30 of them are women, half of them are young, of childbearing age, only one is married, and only three have children, including my wife. Girls want to grow up, complain about their husbands, dream of a career in the capital. Smoke, plague themselves with diets, there is no talk about children.
    Unfortunately, arguing with them is useless .. Let's hope that the situation changes.
    1. +6
      16 November 2011 19: 41
      This is the main problem, they brainwashed the young (in principle, I am not yet old myself) about financial well-being, about career growth, about not being losers. But a woman will take place only when she becomes a mother, and not some kind of manager, whom no one is waiting for at home. And then these unfortunate people try to give birth, but health is not the same, the strength to raise the baby is no longer, and the habit of living for oneself will simply morally kill the "old-born". And if she gives birth, then it will be only one child ...

      In short, everything is extremely regrettable.
    2. +4
      16 November 2011 19: 42
      But this is a tendency of all developed countries, it’s funnier to show off in a Lexus than changing diapers, you won’t leave income too for the sake of replenishment in your family, you can turn this situation around, but only with a powerful national upheaval
      1. Mesniy
        0
        17 November 2011 18: 10
        but for me one another doesn’t really interfere
    3. +1
      17 November 2011 02: 23
      Yes, firstly, since 1991, for various reasons (I won’t explain it myself), a peasant has become smaller in our country, and secondly, girls are drawn to a Western lifestyle. And in the west, population growth has long been slowed down. Their situation is not comparable with us, but a fact. But we can’t live like that. We have a different kind of mentality, we are Russians, glamor is not for us. We have always been closer to the earth to nature ...
  17. NUT
    NUT
    +5
    16 November 2011 18: 49
    that the "paragraph" sneaks up on us is a fact and a fact that we cannot solve this issue with tears and money. After all, Moscow does not believe in tears, and those with whom we do not drink live money will be dragged away anyway. So there is only one way out: in All Russia it is free of charge, i.e. for a gift, young families from two children who have, give out state-owned apartments (which forever and should remain state-owned), children from birth to retirement, at state expense to feed, drink, heal and teach wits, dress in school and military uniforms and shoes, ..

    Calculate how much money has been nurtured for all possible programs on this topic, so the hell will work out for the costs, and we will start giving birth without fear ... love
  18. +1
    16 November 2011 19: 40
    well, we’re dying and dying, well, we’re not keen to climb into our country, sit abroad and wait until we die out, but what if you decide to join our federation in some way - well, then you will continue to die out with us
  19. ztk1
    +9
    16 November 2011 21: 25
    When my daughter (born 88) went to grade 1, as many as 6 of these classes were formed in the school (30-35 each). But when the son (born 94) went to the first class, there were only 3 to 25 classes. That’s the whole difference - the daughter was born in the USSR and the son in the Russian Federation. Here is such homegrown statistics. My personal conclusion: the demography cannot be pulled out until the state begins to protect men, at least in the same way as women. It has long been necessary to understand that a man is a carrier of the gene pool, and our best and smartest gene pool works for Americans and others. And it is necessary to protect not only the country's gold reserves, but also those who created it all. But the mass of low-intellectual, able to only dig and not dig, gene pool came to replace it. In order for a Russian woman to want to create a marriage with a Russian man, and not a native of the Caucasus, China and other South. republics need to change the status of our (Russian) man. Look how Finland, France defended its gene pool in the courts against Russian mothers, leaving their sons to these Finns, the French. They (the authorities) are not scattered by their gene pool.
    My slogan: "We must end with matriarchy"
  20. +1
    17 November 2011 04: 00
    Actual narration! I believe that it should be shown on TV more often. And then many do not know. You begin to explain to people that during the war in Chechnya - in Chechnya itself there was the lowest mortality rate compared to other regions of Russia - they do not believe. Well, then I ask them how much they really know or heard that someone had not returned from the war - even acquaintances of acquaintances. They begin to think, to remember - a few. And then I ask how many people know who died from vodka, under drugs, in an accident. Here they begin to believe that our affairs are unimportant.
    1. Mesniy
      0
      17 November 2011 14: 59
      Well, I don’t know who you asked.
  21. Mr. Truth
    +2
    17 November 2011 16: 12
    Only a return to traditional values ​​and a traditional family can help. At my work, out of 10 Russian girls who are from 25 to 30 years old, they have only one child, others say things about children that just make their blood run cold, so selfish, I I barely work with them.
    1. Mesniy
      +4
      17 November 2011 18: 15
      and even worse when I drive past the hospital and see "pot-bellied" smokers around the corners. I want to fight off my hands
  22. +1
    17 November 2011 16: 26
    Children urgently children !!!! although, based on statistics, 70% of divorces in marriage come from women, they have seen enough movies with a good life and leave men ... without words ... It’s harder to raise one or two children in a family than if a big family and then the children work for the family so from time immemorial ...
    1. Mesniy
      0
      17 November 2011 18: 18
      only the elders often do not see childhood and dream of sdhatsya as soon as possible. And then they themselves do not have children for a long time. Everything, it seems to me, depends on a particular family. The main thing is to do everything without fanaticism and listen less to "wise" advice.
  23. mishan
    +4
    17 November 2011 22: 03
    What the fuck are the sources, what kind of data ?? What evidence do you need ??
    Have you torn your asses off the couch for a long time and dragged them out of town? Have you been in a village for a long time? Not in the cottage village, but in the village.
    The houses are mostly abandoned and collapsed, impassable in the sections of weeds. There are only old people who live their lives, the youth, as soon as possible, breaks into the city. On the remaining count. it was painful to watch households, everything rusted and fell apart, pressure towers pulled away the local ones, power lines only recently began to cut less. Apparently, other drunkards died. Enthusiasts who abandoned the bustle of the city and indulged in farming, which are so actively shown on TV. This is negligible. That there are villages and small towns all have dispersed, there is no work at all, and a private trader, after 3 months of work, suddenly lowers and throws the poor fellow uneducated from the village.
    And RosStat is not needed here, you yourself understand everything.
    1. mitya
      0
      22 November 2011 21: 07
      Mishanya 2 plus

      Mishan 2 is not given, but 1 is definitely mine!
  24. mitya
    0
    21 November 2011 14: 32
    I spent most of my life in the village, and I remember how it was. Yes, the village was large, there was a large state farm (meat and dairy direction), of course, parents did not receive much (father 90 p., Mother 75 p.), But our family was more than enough (a family of 4 people could be 5, but the youngest dead was born), but oh well, not about that. So in my class there were 20 people, and it was the smallest class in the school, now in this school in which I studied the largest class of 10 people. When I was at school, I thought I’m going to leave school, I will serve in the army and return to my village, and after the 90s everything changed dramatically, the youth went down from the village to the city, I myself, after the demobilization, when I arrived home and changed my mind about staying, left for the city . Now of my classmates who stayed in the village everyone drank because there was no work, the state farm collapsed, the cows under the knife, the equipment that did not have time to rot was dragged away by local rulers. The village is living out its last days, and you speak more to young people than to old people. NOT TRUE!!! Another 5-6 years and EVERYTHING !!! It will not exist at all; there will be no one to rewrite by the next census.
    1. 0
      21 November 2011 17: 40
      well, so go back to YOUR VILLAGE revive it, why shake the air in vain? !!
      1. mitya
        0
        22 November 2011 20: 42
        Sorry damn, distracted. Did you just be in any seedy village in the countryside? Ask any grandmother or grandfather who are they waiting for? Or just believe the words about the revival of the villages? Surround!
  25. mitya
    0
    22 November 2011 06: 18
    Speak revive? Everything is stolen there, and no one will let the village come to life again, because then whoever plundered, they are standing there by the board of this former state farm, and everything is tied up everywhere. And it is necessary to solve this not at the local level but a little higher, and those who are higher are also covered with shit
    1. 0
      22 November 2011 10: 08
      a good scammer, and I affirm that it is necessary and possible to revive, only desire must be had, and until we nod at all and the whole point will not begin, start your own farm from yourself
      1. mitya
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        22 November 2011 20: 04
        And you, my friend, where do you live?
      2. mitya
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        22 November 2011 20: 55
        How did you earn a drop? Here on such statements unfounded? You come to the village, in the wilderness (and not where someone from the government comes to) and see HOW the people live there, and then you will talk about the revival of the village!
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      22 November 2011 10: 09
      it seems to tears, those who plundered already climb into a thought
      and what kind of endings will they write there?
  26. mitya
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    22 November 2011 20: 46
    it was not conceived, just the text did not pass
  27. mitya
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    22 November 2011 21: 42
    And you know I do not care about the number of "+" or "-" I just express my point of view, if it disgusts someone then "adyos"
  28. Cheburatino
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    April 28 2012 13: 32
    Statistics is a delicate matter, you "forget" to report a tiny little detail, and the statistics from quite positive turns into horrifying. Here is the same article =) about 20 million Russians is strong ... it's strange that the author decided to limit himself to twenty =) would write 99 million, much more significant effect.

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