How we were again "torn to shreds" ...

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The “new feature” of the Western media draws attention. More precisely, the old, not exactly new and not even forgotten, but this is some kind of the next incarnation of the famous Obam's meme “Russia's economy is torn to shreds”. What is this incarnation expressed in? And it is expressed in the fact that the British press, which until recently considered how long it would take for the “sanctions to kill the Russian economy,” now hit upon calculating how many more days (hours, minutes ...) the Russian operation in Syria will last, which finish off the last crumbs of the Russian budget ".

So british Daily Telegraph It comes out with material in which the authors seriously declare: “Russia is running out of finances.” At the same time, the reference is to “independent rating agencies” - they say, look, the sovereign rating of Russia is reduced by agencies, which means it’s time to count the days to “the end of Russia”. But Daily Telegraph for some reason, it does not inform its readers that these rating agencies lowered the sovereign rating of Russia long before the first Russian military aircraft dropped bombs on ISIL and Frente al-Nusra terrorists. Nor does he report that from the moment Russian ratings were downgraded S&P or Fitch Russia has not delayed a single payment on the payment of foreign debt, while reducing inflation, stabilizing the expenditure of the Reserve Fund, the national currency rate and increasing investment from a number of countries, including both the financial center of Europe - Luxembourg, and a key player in the world oil market - Saudi Arabia.

The Daily Telegraph quotes the head of Rusal, Oleg Deripaska:
We should stop looking at the exchange rate (ruble), and start thinking about what kind of economic policy we need. No one will borrow money in a currency under 12% in order to invest it later. At the very peak of Russia's GDP reached 2,3 trillions of dollars. Now this figure has dropped to 1,2 trillions. I am afraid that we will return to the level of 1998 of the year, when the size of GDP was 700 billion dollars.

Right here Daily Telegraph makes a kind of commentary of Oleg Deripaska’s statement, which automatically makes it clear for what purposes the British publication decided to publish this material at all - another crazy material about the economy torn to shreds ... British “experts” write that with such GDP volumes that Deripaska outlined, Russia By definition, can not claim the status of a superpower. At the same time, data on the GDP of the Netherlands - 850 billion dollars. They say, look, Russia, the economy of the Netherlands in its volume is almost equal to the economy of Russia, and you, Russia, are still trying to talk about some claims to a multipolar world ...

How we were again "torn to shreds" ...


All these statements that Russia is “about to run out of money,” and that it “will crawl on its knees to a unipolar ruler,” from which Britain itself has not crawled for a long time, look like a kind of complacent mantra for the West. After all, the “most democratic after the American and Ukrainian” press in the world — the press of Her Majesty — cannot provide its readers with objective materials that in modern conditions not everything is “okay” in the economy is not only Russia, and that EU countries sometimes experience much more acute problems of an economic nature. The British press cannot submit to its subscribers objective data that the American “coalition” in the same Syria is nothing “more successful” than dropping weapons terrorists and getting "democratic" bombs in excavators and transformer substations on Syrian territory is not achieved, and the Russian VKS, supporting the Syrian army, have achieved. After all, if it's all the same Daily Telegraph as an informational dish, he will issue on one of his pages today, then tomorrow, according to the canons of “democracy”, the editor-in-chief will change along with the staffing of current journalists.

Therefore, in order to curry favor with the "exceptional", they have to podtyvat of the "torn economy", the "total failures of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria" and the bombing of "bearded pregnant boys and blind kittens" ...

The main thrust of the materials is that Russia is doing everything wrong, Russia is a “camel,” and those who are trying to prove that Russia is not a camel are “uncivilized kremleputy zombie by Moscow propaganda barbarians.”

In principle, nothing really is new except, perhaps, the fact that the term “Syria” has now appeared in the materials of the “friends”. Just a few months ago, the term "Ukraine" was exaggerated, earlier - "Chechnya", even earlier - "Afghanistan", "Korea", etc. And the message is the same everywhere: the bright NATO elves bring good and well-being to the whole world (not to mention that the well-being of elves is made up of the oil fields and rivers of the spilled blood of those who are "good" carried by elves), and the Russian "Mordor" - the beggar, torn to shreds, with an animal grin - this is a horror of a planetary scale.

As a fact: the old disc has changed to a new digital drive, but the compositions have not changed either in content or in tonality, and even the arranger is really tinkering using the “musical” effects of a sample 40-year-old.
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  1. +78
    20 October 2015 06: 21
    How everyone wants to see Russia on their knees, how many "well-wishers" we have at all times, there are no others, but Russia was, is and will be ...
    1. +20
      20 October 2015 06: 45
      Quote: mig31
      how many "well-wishers ... Russia has been, is and will be ...."


      Indeed, Russia does everything this way, Russia is not a “camel”, but those who are trying to prove that Russia - a camel - are zombie barbarians.
      The economy is not torn to shreds, we have the total success of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria.
      The system of oligarchic capitalism in Russia has a bright future.
      Arranger Deripaska is really hacking.

      Isn’t it time to tackle system arrangers?
      1. +20
        20 October 2015 07: 03
        Quote: nils
        Arranger Deripaska is really hacking.

        Deripaska could have said something else, taken out of context, or in some places rearranged. Or maybe he didn’t say it at all. It’s like Putin’s last interview with the US media, they cut out everything that could and should not be done. As a result, Putin said not at all what we heard.
        1. +5
          20 October 2015 08: 11
          How everyone wants to see Russia on their knees, how many "well-wishers" we have at all times, there are no others, but Russia was, is and will be ...

          There are no others ... But those are farther! (c) A.S. Pushkin.
          1. +15
            20 October 2015 10: 00
            A good article, I do not completely agree with the slogans that everything is super with finances. It seems to me that they underestimated the general tensile strength of our people and the country as a whole. I already wrote (and not only me) that in the Crimea people, the more they complicate their lives, the more they grit their teeth. And certainly in the extreme back suitcases from this are not collected ...
            The economy is not at the peak of development, yes, but on our knees we do not crawl ...
            1. +10
              20 October 2015 10: 56
              But this phrase made me laugh:
              Russia "is about to run out of money," and she "crawls on her lap to the unipolar lord"


              ID.ot.Y !!!

              fool
              1. +36
                20 October 2015 12: 14
                Quote: Baikonur
                But this phrase made me laugh:
                Russia "is about to run out of money," and she "crawls on her lap to the unipolar lord"


                ID.ot.Y !!!

                fool

                The other day I heard from Solovyov that our economy is somewhere on the Spanish level. And here again, about GDP in dollars
                At its peak, Russia's GDP reached 2,3 trillions of dollars. Now this figure has dropped to 1,2 trillions. I am afraid that we will return to the 1998 level of the year, when the size of GDP amounted to 700 billion dollars.
                Allow me! If we are as poor as Spain, why does not America fly into space on Spanish rockets and why does Spain not bomb ISIS, does not launch its Caliber missiles at 1000000 kilometers ?? Maybe things aren’t as bad with us as in dollars it seems? In dollars, GDP fell by half, but in rubles, no! Yes, milk and bread have risen in price. But this is not a consequence of a collapsed economy and, moreover, not the results of sanctions. The usual greed of our hucksters, which for 25 years could get used to ... hi
                1. +3
                  20 October 2015 19: 45
                  Maybe everything is not as bad with us as it seems in dollars? In dollars, GDP fell by half, but not in rubles!
                  And in parrots - I’m much longer !!!
                  1. +1
                    21 October 2015 09: 22
                    Quote: cap54
                    And in parrots - I’m much longer !!!

                    So in space we fly so far in rubles, not in parrots and not even in dollars. laughing For rubles, launch vehicles are made at plants, for rubles they pump oil and make rocket fuel out of it. Even astronauts receive a salary in rubles. Therefore, the entire conversion into dollars and comparing us with Spain is incorrect, at least ...

                    Although ... If the parrots do not have more numbers, but in fact there will be longerhigher and farther, why not count in parrots? laughing
                2. +5
                  20 October 2015 21: 19
                  The usual greed of our hucksters, which you can get used to in 25 years ... hi
                  Perhaps you should not get used to it! And at the expense of the Anglo-Saxons, they carried "culture" to their colonies all their lives, only for some reason with weapons ...
                  1. +5
                    20 October 2015 23: 01
                    Quote: NIKNN
                    The usual greed of our hucksters, which you can get used to in 25 years ... hi
                    Perhaps you should not get used to it! And at the expense of the Anglo-Saxons, they carried "culture" to their colonies all their lives, only for some reason with weapons ...
                    - well, do not forget that the same "huckster", the owner of the shop, the same as you, a citizen of Russia, feeds and raises children, etc. If he had the opportunity not to raise prices, believe me, he would not. But big hucksters, because of which prices are going up, the so-called. "oil kings" (it's no secret - fuel prices have gone up - all prices have gone up), and is not your neighbor (if you do not live in Rublevka), and he has more citizenship passports than you have money.
                    Deripska patched up a patriot here, you see laughing laughing laughing I saw his selfie when he was invited to a barbecue with either the Rothschilds or the Rockefellers. The expression on his face (NOT FACE!) He had such ... How can I tell you? As a child, the elders decided to be the first among their peers to pull me up, I was proud and boasted of this to my peers. They did not believe it, and then they took a camera as proof (who remembers, there was such a camera "Smena"?) And took the same selfie to show to their peers. Here I had such a moronic, enthusiastic expression on my face (NO MUCHES! Forgiveable, I was still a child). And that's exactly the expression I see on the face of the oligarch, the owner of the backbone metallurgical companies in Russia !!! Whom did you entrust the metallurgical industry in Russia? An infantile debiloid dying of delight that someone invited him to a barbecue? fool But this is no longer for you, but still this is a question more for Putin. With all due respect, despite the fact that he, as President-professional in his field, deserves the deepest respect, for all this, it’s not time to seriously engage in the domestic economy, is it not time to return Russian property to the public property and put at their helm well-deserved, verified, serious managers?
                    By the way, prices are not rising because of your neighbors, whom you called hucksters, prices are rising precisely because of these "kinder-surprise-moronic-infants" who are ready to lick the bottom of any of the Rockefeller-baruch-Rothschilds with delight. And you really shouldn't get used to these, but drive them out of the country with a filthy broom. am
                    1. +5
                      21 October 2015 13: 52
                      Quote: aksakal
                      I saw his selfie when he was invited to the barbecue either with the Rothschilds or with the Rockefellers. The expression of his face (NOT FACE!) He had this ...

                      Are you talking about it? Indeed, it is surprising that the Rothschilds welcome him ... And his face ... In my childhood I also had the situations you described, the Smena camera was just not there. So it seems to me that my face was smarter at that time ... In general, if I did not know that Deripaska was Deripaska, I would have thought that this is some owner of a Hyundai car dealership from some Vologda or Kostroma ...

                      And these rats, who stole the country across London, have the audacity to call themselves "elite", or even "aristocracy"?!?! ???? Shopkeepers, beach ...
        2. +6
          20 October 2015 09: 37
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          It’s like Putin’s last interview with the US media, they cut out everything that was possible and impossible. As a result, Putin did not say what we heard.

          Good afternoon.
          Yes, I agree to all 100500.
          To be in the subject you need to know several languages ​​(freely read, write, speak) and have access to foreign media.
          As a result, who will you become, after analyzing all the sources ???
          LIBERAST.
          1. +5
            20 October 2015 11: 09
            Quote: Papakiko
            To be in the subject you need to know several languages ​​(freely read, write, speak) and have access to foreign media.
            As a result, who will you become, after analyzing all the sources ???
            LIBERAST.


            Nifinta to myself, but I thought - an erudite polyglot .. wassat
            ATP, opened his eyes .. laughing
      2. +14
        20 October 2015 07: 03
        Do not wake famously, while it is quiet. Once the bourgeoisie do not understand, their life is not taken into account.
    2. +3
      20 October 2015 07: 43
      It really reminds me of 1998. We just haven’t been compared with anyone. We forgot 2 things. We don’t fit the standard. Our economy, not Western, has a lot of our own, national, angles. And who decided to compare us with the guys , on people, too. Not for ... no hat.
      1. +8
        20 October 2015 08: 12
        The main focus of materials - Russia is doing everything wrong, Russia is a “camel"

        If in your opinion Russia is a "camel", then look, camels have a habit (when they get them) to spit - "spit" so that we will choke! And how far and precisely we "spit", the Caspian flotilla showed. soldier
      2. +5
        20 October 2015 08: 33
        Yes, and we were the 5th economy a year ago. And that would have collapsed. Something I can’t believe. Moreover, the economy is both politics and military force. Garbage is all that.
        1. -6
          20 October 2015 08: 55
          And you look out the window, take a look at the price tags in stores, find out how many people have lost their jobs and how much the workers' wages have fallen. And I believe it, I don’t believe it. With the labor of the government and the central bank, the economy is shrinking due to the lack of living money. The 90s are coming back. Although of course we it’s not the West and people work for a penny or even not getting money for months. This is not nagging, but unfortunately what I myself and my relatives and friends are going through.
          1. +18
            20 October 2015 09: 37
            "Although, of course, we are not the West and people work for a penny or even without receiving money for months at all. This is not whining, but unfortunately something that I myself and my friends and relatives go through."

            Where do you work with relatives and friends "without receiving money for months"?
            1. +10
              20 October 2015 10: 16
              Quote: navigator
              Where do you work with relatives and friends "without receiving money for months"?

              Campaign nowhere. lol
              1. +3
                20 October 2015 12: 08
                Quote: GRAY
                Campaign nowhere.

                No, I take my words back, I know who has this topic - from reindeer herders, they go out to people a couple of times a year.
          2. +18
            20 October 2015 10: 23
            For dvg79. And what, paws to the top and let's go give up ?!
            I don’t know in which stores you buy, but I will say one thing! Our prices are rising as they were before, well, maybe 5-7 percent more. What, we didn’t grow two or three years ago ?! Yes, salaries are not raised, so I’ve been raised it for five years only once! I don’t like the policy of the economic bloc at all, so I didn’t like it before, then what ?!

            If you write, then write what to do. We are all here smart and economists with experience in the government!

            P.S. And in general, he began to pay attention to the fact that mainly people who have something to lose, mostly Muscovites who swam in fat, complain! But here in the hinterland, they lived from paycheck to paycheck, and they live on, and they manage to help others, even though they themselves have a ball!
            1. +8
              20 October 2015 12: 10
              Our prices always rise regardless of the dollar exchange rate. I don’t know how it is in Moscow, but in Russia people live quietly and work.
            2. +2
              20 October 2015 13: 41
              Do you like living from a paycheck to a paycheck?
              In the summer it became known that soon the largest sailing yacht in the world will be built. Then reports appeared that its owner would be the Russian billionaire Andrei Melnichenko. And now the construction of the ship came to an end. On September 21, the yacht went on its first voyage near the shipyard of the German city of Kiel. We are talking about the yacht White Pearl ("White Pearl"), which was created by the design of Philippe Starck. The billionaire's sailing yacht will be the largest ship in its class and probably the most expensive. AiF.ru looked at the new yacht of Andrey Melnichenko worth $ 400 million.

              Here you meet Andrei Igorevich Melnichenko (born March 8, 1972, Gomel, Belorussian SSR, USSR) - a Russian entrepreneur.

              With a personal fortune of $ 9,1 billion, in 2015 he took 97th place in the world ranking of Forbes billionaires and 13th among Russian billionaires.
              A 44-year-old man "earned" !!!!!!! That's only when and on what it is possible to earn money.
              1. +14
                20 October 2015 13: 59
                For Alexey M. And you think I like these Honduras who are plundering the country ?! Yes, we have whatever governor you take, all one to one "khoroshavin". Again, you have the same question: WHAT TO DO ?! What are the specific proposals ?!

                All this fuss around the fact that we are being stolen and in general by the Mental League, smacks of the usual liberal propaganda! Yes, I do not like thieves-oligarchs, thieves-officials, the liberal bloc of the government, cold in winter and mosquitoes in summer, then what ?! What conclusions should we draw from your comment ?! I generally want to go back to the USSR and what ?!

                The power must and must be changed, the question is how! You might think that in the current state of affairs you will not steal if you are in the place of the same Khoroshavin or Serdyukov! All of us are honest until that moment until the trough was not allowed, and then the principle: after me, even a flood! You need to start with your loved ones and raising your children! Then maybe there will be fewer "good ones"!

                And then all the slogans boil down to the fact that everything is bad with us, we’re all-wise, Putin’s fake and hello! 3,14 *** don’t toss bags, slogans are all shouting to us, but the thing to do is let someone else!

                So speak more clearly what exactly you are offering, otherwise it smells like maidan propaganda!
                1. 0
                  20 October 2015 16: 59
                  What to do?
                  Demand from the government the fulfillment of her duties !!!
                2. 0
                  21 October 2015 04: 57
                  To understand this issue, it would be useful to compare the number of people. directly involved in the production of wealth, and how much parasitizes on their work. And the size of the party administrative apparatus. only then can you try to develop any plans.
              2. +4
                20 October 2015 16: 21
                "Do you like to live from a salary to a salary? ........ A 44-year-old man" earned "!!!!!!! That's only when and how you can make money."

                I didn’t understand your passage. What is bad in life from paycheck to paycheck, especially if the paycheck suits you? You can, of course, sit and envy Melnichenko or Abramovich. I’ll tell you a terrible secret: you’ll never make money on anything like that. Or did you not know that at the origins of all huge fortunes throughout history lies crime: Khodor, Berezovsky, Gusinsky, etc. Where did you get rich, or rather, who? "You cannot make stone chambers from the labors of the righteous" is an old Russian proverb.
                1. +2
                  20 October 2015 17: 20
                  My passage is that Melnikov gained money by work that is not righteous and does not know where. So can he make a tax at least progressive?
                  Maybe people already have enough to squeeze, it’s time to open their eyes and see in what ass the country is, they steal in billions.
                  1. +1
                    21 October 2015 05: 05
                    And who will make this tax? A week after such a passage, we are likely to see a new government that will quickly return to normal.
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            3. +1
              21 October 2015 04: 41
              More than agree. More and more often I remember Krylov's grandfather: "There were a thousand wonderful tips, but no one helped the poor fellow."
          3. +7
            20 October 2015 11: 15
            And you look out the window, take a look at the price tags in stores, find out how many people have lost their jobs and how much wages have fallen for workers.


            I saw the price tags. When was it different? Capitalism, after all, "you die today and I die tomorrow." And do not say that if you were a trader, you would leave prices at the level of October last year. Well, don't, huh.
            Regarding the dismissal, it is strange that no one among relatives and friends is fired. Well, excuse me, there are no grunts on which the grants have ceased to be enough, among my entourage.
            Salaries to reduce? I don’t watch it either. In that year, 5% was raised. Yes. pay little, but, again, capitalism, his mother is. But you do not want to return to socialism. There are NO OPPORTUNITIES, well, so realize the opportunities, and do not blame the government. It’s up to us how to have opportunities, and if the opportunities have raped us, the government is to blame.

            ores of the government and the central bank, the economy is shrinking from a lack of living money.


            Yes Yes. Read about "ruble repo" before writing that the economy is shrinking.
    3. +7
      20 October 2015 08: 25
      Quote: mig31
      How everyone wants to see Russia on their knees, how many "well-wishers" we have at all times, there are no others, but Russia was, is and will be ...

      Well, Duc, you read the press of the same small UK, which was published in the early 20th, 19th, and 18th century - they all write the same thing, only the technical terms are not the same. And if you also recall the "testament of Peter I", which the French truthfully composed, and the British picked up as the main bogey, then in general everything will become clear - 300 years have passed, and in the west the same melody is playing, only instruments and performers change ...
    4. +1
      20 October 2015 10: 17
      We always glorify you, now and forever, and forever and ever. Amen!
    5. +11
      20 October 2015 12: 07
      Quote: mig31
      How everyone wants to see Russia on their knees, how many "well-wishers" we have at all times, there are no others, but Russia was, is and will be ...


      God save us from "friends", and we will get rid of enemies ourselves, not soon, but we will get rid of them.
    6. +1
      20 October 2015 13: 40
      To get started, read the article, they just write what are the problems in the economy and how to fix them. But Volodin just distorted everything and distorted the meaning for himself.
      wrote just for the sake of justice
    7. +4
      20 October 2015 18: 40
      Quote: mig31
      How everyone wants to see Russia on their knees

      Before whom on your knees? The USA lives in debt, their import exceeds export, their only savior is a lochatron called a printing press, over the past year, with all their efforts, they had to draw almost a trillion dollars and their whole success lies in slowing down the growth of debt, by the way, due to the fact that the USA suddenly became a leader in oil and gas exploration in shale formations, it is ridiculous to hear statements about the easy repayment of current debts by paying new debts and it does not help them either the universities that occupy first places in quotes or the buying up of scientists around the world.
      As in the song of Semyon Slepakov:

      What she just didn’t do:
      After six I didn't eat la la
      On the simulator ran la la
      I didn’t mix carbohydrates with proteins,
      I sweated la la la in the sauna,
      Smeared ointments body la la,
      A belt of wool was worn
      And even went to church.


      But the ass is growing ...
    8. 0
      21 October 2015 08: 17
      Let them yapping! For 60 years they have not changed, "neither intellect, nor ingenuity", it is even beneficial for us when we are SO underestimated. And we will continue ... asymmetrically.)))
    9. 0
      21 October 2015 12: 31
      Well, too tired, if you read the censor, then in general you can go crazy, do not read heresy !!!!
    10. 0
      22 October 2015 10: 47
      Russia has been, is and will be eaten by all these wretches!
  2. +22
    20 October 2015 06: 26
    when I came to the word "Deripaska", the mood was gone to study the material further ...
    1. +7
      20 October 2015 06: 53
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      when I came to the word "Deripaska", the mood was gone

      Allergy to aluminum? wassat
      Hi, non-ferrous metallurgy! laughing
      1. +3
        20 October 2015 07: 00
        Quote: Angry Guerrilla
        Allergy to aluminum?
        Hi, non-ferrous metallurgy!

        Hello! God forbid allergies! Until now, the peasant did not work out one pity; he had to leave. sad
        1. +8
          20 October 2015 12: 17
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          God forbid allergies


          Hey. I’ll pick up a little - God forbid, some consider the lack of calcium:
    2. +6
      20 October 2015 09: 13
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      when I came to the word "Deripaska", the mood was gone to study the material further ...


      Yuryevich, well, well, are you so tough about Oleg Vladimirovich? This is the most grammatical buznesman, well-known in the Krasnodar Territory, due to the fact that he will not undertake anything, all through one place.

      Of course I’m harsh about it, but for my own reasons. hi
      1. +2
        20 October 2015 13: 40
        Volodya, all businessmen are literate how to deceive, steal and put in your pocket.
  3. 0
    20 October 2015 06: 26
    Yes, they themselves will soon run out of money, clothes pegs of imperialism. am
    1. Are
      +12
      20 October 2015 08: 17
      No one will run out of money --- printing is not a problem. You won’t print resources, you won’t buy pride in your country .. (somehow) hi
      1. +4
        20 October 2015 10: 18
        Quote: ARE
        You won’t print resources

        And Putin will sell them for the printed ones.
  4. +10
    20 October 2015 06: 33
    The main thrust of the materials is that Russia is doing everything wrong, Russia is a “camel,” and those who are trying to prove that Russia is not a camel are “uncivilized kremleputy zombie by Moscow propaganda barbarians.”... Yes, when there was RI, the USSR ... they wrote everything too .. No wonder. And someone thinks that the West is our "friend" ... Tokmo dreams that Russia would prosper ..
    1. +1
      20 October 2015 13: 10
      Quote: parusnik
      And someone thinks that we are a "friend" to the West ... Tokmo dreams that Russia would prosper ..


      - Thanks to the West, Russian officials, "statesmen" of all types, flourish very well. And the Russian people are not interesting to the West and unpleasant to the Russian official, there is no talk about him.
  5. +35
    20 October 2015 06: 33
    Themselves go to the bottom. 5 years maximum and FSA will fall apart.
    "Everything will melt like ice, and only one thing will remain - the glory of Vladimir, the glory of Russia" (C) Wang.
    1. +1
      20 October 2015 10: 17
      Quote: armored optimist
      Themselves go to the bottom. 5 years maximum and FSA will fall apart.

      Not tired of the same nonsense for years and decades to replicate?
      The ruble has fallen twice, prices are rising, salaries are decreasing, the number of poor is increasing even according to official statistics, but the US will fall apart. I do not understand something? Maybe all this is the famous Putin mnogohodovochka?
      1. +4
        20 October 2015 11: 21
        The ruble has fallen twice, prices are rising, salaries are decreasing, the number of poor is increasing even according to official statistics, but the US will fall apart. I do not understand something? Maybe all this is the famous Putin mnogohodovochka?


        It reminds me of something. Prices in the markets are growing, cards cannot be bought, the number of starving people is increasing even according to official statistics, the front is near Stalingrad, but "Victory will be ours." Maybe all this is a Stalinist multi-move?
        Alarmists, damn it.
      2. +2
        20 October 2015 19: 07
        The ruble has collapsed! So the local manufacturer started to come alive! Has the dollar gone up? so try to buy monetary gold on it with real home delivery. Where are prices not rising now? Tell me if you know. Do you think salaries in STGA are only growing? Ordinary workers? Are there many poor people? Well, they themselves destroyed the USSR, so why complain now? States not falling apart? So they were ready to win on two fronts at the same time two decades ago !!! And now only one and then not immediately.
  6. +6
    20 October 2015 06: 36
    Yes, the shaved men themselves will soon go to China to ask for something.
  7. +3
    20 October 2015 06: 37
    The main thrust of the materials is that Russia is doing everything wrong, Russia is a “camel,” and those who are trying to prove that Russia is not a camel are “uncivilized kremleputy zombie by Moscow propaganda barbarians.”


    The most real info-war. And in it, we also need to learn to win. So that from these "grabbing economies", from themselves, pieces fly.
    The sizes of these pieces directly depend on the counter info-war we are conducting.
  8. +32
    20 October 2015 06: 37
    I cannot think of anything else for their "passages" about the dying Russia. Sorry, tolerasts of the setting sun.
    1. +8
      20 October 2015 09: 39
      For the sake of my woman I will postpone all CASES ... (So more complicated ...)
  9. +3
    20 October 2015 06: 37
    "We were torn to shreds again"

    Daily Telegraph went to the toilet ... Was torn to shreds, there is nothing to wipe off !!! What !!!
  10. +27
    20 October 2015 06: 45
    Not the first one to try.
    1. +2
      20 October 2015 13: 47
      And what does he have to do with it? Everything is clear with him. He has such a job ...
      That's who wanted and wants to destroy Russia
      Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Nemtsov, Kireenko, Chubais, Serdyukov, Medvedev .... the list is big, big ... and they destroy slowly but surely.
  11. +21
    20 October 2015 06: 47
    Yes, yes, finances are running out, but missiles appear with a range of up to 1500 km and a detection protection system, as well as electronic warfare systems, an outdated version of which is capable of disarming an American ship armed with tomahawks. And also, the financial situation is so "AWESOME" that the Russian armed forces conduct large-scale exercises almost every month with the transfer of troops from one end of Russia to the other!
    Indeed, rating agencies are able to analyze, but judging by the conclusions, these agencies analyze someone's stool !!!
    1. +1
      20 October 2015 09: 17
      Quote: shimus
      And also, the financial situation is so "AWESOME" that the Russian armed forces conduct large-scale exercises almost every month with the transfer of troops from one end of Russia to the other!
      By the way, are you aware that the salaries of teachers and doctors in 2016 will be reduced by 34 billion rubles? Food prices are rising and energy? Do not want to analyze this news?
      1. +6
        20 October 2015 09: 39
        So, organize a rally in support of the abolition of salaries for doctors and teachers (at the same time against raising salaries for deputies), and do not worry about them sitting on the couch.
        1. +3
          20 October 2015 10: 52
          Quote: Comrade Bender
          Well, so organize a rally in support of the abolition of lower salaries of doctors and teachers (at the same time against the increase in the salaries of deputies)

          And get a truncheon in the head and a term "for extremism" wassat
          1. +4
            20 October 2015 11: 00
            And what is extremism and why in the head? For a properly organized meeting? Or is it better to sit at home and complain about a bad life, otmazyvatsya "barbarians with clubs"?
            1. +1
              20 October 2015 11: 30
              No, I will cheer here, about how everything is fine with us and the Anglo-Saxons will soon fall into the abyss fellow
        2. 0
          21 October 2015 05: 28
          Meaning? "And Vaska listens, but eats."
  12. +2
    20 October 2015 06: 52
    The USA and Europe constantly saw a threat in us calling us an aggressor, and after the collapse of the USSR they thought that we had lost, but Russia has revived and stood on its feet and again they see a threat in us and call it Aggressor.
  13. +3
    20 October 2015 06: 56
    - Another ravings "about torn to shreds economy" ...

    The author has found a rational kernel!
  14. +2
    20 October 2015 06: 57
    In this situation, it is more correct to consider not absolute GDP, but relative, calculated by the so-called methodology. PPP (purchasing power parity), taking into account the cost of goods and services in the country in question.
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  16. +2
    20 October 2015 07: 07
    would come up with something new ...
  17. +6
    20 October 2015 07: 11
    Apparently to British journalists British scientists tell all this, the rest you yourself know ....
  18. +6
    20 October 2015 07: 23
    They just cannot understand that even with a daily norm of 125 grams of bread, it was not possible to "tear to shreds" - otherwise they think of GDP - they have no yardstick to measure Russia
  19. +6
    20 October 2015 07: 24
    And what is the UK began to live better? Did you cope with unemployment? Yes Yes. He thinks everyone else is a freak, despite what he himself.
  20. +4
    20 October 2015 07: 42
    all tear and tear-do not understand the near-wise that we are united from this tokmo more tightly and we won’t break anything!
  21. +4
    20 October 2015 07: 47
    Faster it is necessary to drive guest workers out of power, then no one will ever break us from our resources. And only everyone will stand with an outstretched hand! And we’ll think about who to give, and who probably shouldn’t.
  22. +2
    20 October 2015 07: 57
    The muddy man of Deripaska, and the manager is terrible. One Baikal pulp and paper mill is worth what, and the events in Pikalevo with alumina workers were not so long ago. And this gentleman grew up with his aluminum on cheap electricity in Russia. And as for finance, I think that all these are exchange games with the ruble. Tomorrow, the ruble will double in price and, with a wave of a magic wand, the budget will double. If our tank or plane is sold for export, then their price is determined in dollars. Even if mutual settlements go in rubles, the basic peg will go to the dollar as long as it is the world currency.
  23. +4
    20 October 2015 08: 07
    for a thousand years everyone has been waiting for Russia on its knees.
  24. +3
    20 October 2015 08: 08
    Their memory is short ... Only 70 years have passed ... At the beginning of the war, the Nazis were torn with their bare hands. And these same "partners" saw and knew about it. And, even, they awarded and praised the feats of our soldiers. Our actions in Syria, the conducted exercises with the instant movement of a large number of troops, shocked them ... And they for their - "we tore it all up"! Only they have words, but we have deeds!
  25. +3
    20 October 2015 08: 15
    Hmm .... probably really "doing everything right"
    people .. tell me a fool, why is this done? :
    http://politobzor.net/show-68033-cb-vlozhil-v-gosobligacii-ssha-polovinu-byudzhe
    ta-rossii.html
    "The Bank of Russia in August continued active purchases of US government bonds. Over the month, the Central Bank's investment in US debt increased by $ 7,8 billion - up to $ 89,9 billion, follows from the data released on Friday by the US Treasury.

    Purchases in record volumes for a year and a half continue for the second month in a row - in July and August, Russia invested $ 17,9 billion in the American economy. In terms of the ruble exchange rate, the investment amounted to 519 billion rubles in August and 575 billion rubles in September. "
    1. 0
      20 October 2015 08: 45
      You live right like the first day in the world ... why does the Central Bank buy paper ??? read the node - everything is chewed there) ... Briefly - Russia as a colony must pay tribute to the metropolis
      http://rusnod.ru/
      1. 0
        20 October 2015 09: 25
        But ... this paper can again be turned into money.
        You can come to the bank with a dollar bill printed 100 years ago and put it in your account. Try to come to the bank with the kerenki.
        We buy up US obligations only so that this money is not stupidly stolen in the homeland. That's the trick.
        In addition, it is likely that despite any sanctions, purchases of strategic materials and equipment in the United States will probably continue through nominees, third countries, and difficult payment schemes. Maybe that's the point.
        1. -1
          21 October 2015 07: 21
          Quote: Cap.Morgan
          You can come to the bank with a dollar bill printed 100 years ago

          But how much gold could be bought 100 years ago on this piece of paper and how much now?
          Quote: Cap.Morgan
          Try to come to the bank with the kerenki.

          So the revolution did not have to be done.
          1. 0
            21 October 2015 20: 26
            Quote: saturn.mmm

            But how much gold could be bought 100 years ago on this piece of paper and how much now?

            Incognito minusers appeared on the site, minuses are put but remain in the shade.
            Who could it be?
    2. +1
      20 October 2015 08: 48
      It reminds me of a joke when a peasant left an ax as a guarantee to a Jew - in the end, he remained without an ax and still owed money
    3. 0
      20 October 2015 08: 49
      These securities are essentially the same commodity, only its "value" depends on the current rate. We buy in addition to the expected increase in the current Fed rate. In general, Americans do not need dollars inside the country, eat them there, they need goods / resources from outside, in exchange for candy wrappers. Well, we just buy credit obligations for candy wrappers, a kind of counterbalance to dollar emission.
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    5. 0
      20 October 2015 11: 31
      Purchases in record volumes for a year and a half continue for the second month in a row - in July and August, Russia invested $ 17,9 billion in the American economy. In terms of the ruble exchange rate, the investment amounted to 519 billion rubles in August and 575 billion rubles in September. "


      Short-term highly liquid liabilities are bought at minimum dollar prices in order to pass peaks in debt payments by the end of the year and still weld on interest.
  26. +3
    20 October 2015 08: 25
    We have the power of the times. They do not care about the country, the people. They have children in the west, money there. Dig any and tomorrow they will all in Europe scream that they were not allowed to steal and rob in Russia. And there are already quite a few of them sitting there. Opposition DIARY.
    1. 0
      20 October 2015 11: 33
      Damn, if you were born in the USSR, then you know how to think. Well, think. What would the West do with the "children" and the money of the "temporary workers" for the Crimea, Donbass, and Syria? We turn on the head already.
  27. +10
    20 October 2015 08: 25
    "A slave dreams not of freedom, but of his slaves" - this is about England. Information war is only gaining strength, we need non-standard moves and we have them, then the "roof" will be blown away.
  28. 0
    20 October 2015 08: 25
    The usual nonsense of the Anglo-Saxon pederasts, whose train has been going on since the 16th century, which is what it says, it's just that all these political pros and cons are scared of RUSSIA, all this pig-squeal from the powerlessness, anger and envy of our capabilities, if the authorities are smart enough to realize these opportunities without looking at the rotten, rotten west and its economic doctrines, then everything will be fine in OUR COUNTRY and there will be a lot, a lot of screeching, squeaking, poured slop on us in the western viper. How pleasing to me all these western sprays of saliva by the way and the sprays are of our nasty, vile, cowardly thieving liberals. Just like in the movie Spring on Zarechnaya street. GOOD RUSSIA AND ITS PEOPLE.
  29. +1
    20 October 2015 08: 33
    The shaved heads went completely head-on in the fog on their island, played the "Big Game"! The main dirty tricks of all times and peoples! Stsuki and only if they like to lick the USSA's ass so much for God's sake, just do not involve the rest of the world in this. stop
  30. +5
    20 October 2015 08: 36
    Yes, in Russia everything is fine, even wonderful

    The Ministry of Finance proposed to double the salaries of officials of the State Duma apparatus
    http://lenta.ru/news/2015/10/13/duma/
    http://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2015/10/13/n_7764995.shtml

    Salaries of teachers and doctors in 2016 will be reduced by 34 billion rubles.
    http://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2015/10/11/n_7759931.shtml

    The devaluation depreciated the well-being of Russians earned over 10 years
    http://www.topnews.ru/news_id_82896.html
    1. +1
      20 October 2015 09: 00
      and they stop paying pensions from November 1 - why didn’t they write about it?
    2. 0
      20 October 2015 09: 44
      Quote: anip
      The Ministry of Finance proposed to double the salaries of officials of the State Duma apparatus
      http://lenta.ru/news/2015/10/13/duma/
      http://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2015/10/13/n_7764995.shtml

      Salaries of teachers and doctors in 2016 will be reduced by 34 billion rubles.
      http://www.gazeta.ru/business/news/2015/10/11/n_7759931.shtml

      The devaluation depreciated the well-being of Russians earned over 10 years
      http://www.topnews.ru/news_id_82896.html
      October 19, 2015 The fall in real incomes of Russians continues for 11 consecutive months
      The real income of Russians in September fell by 4,3%. In general, in January-September, population incomes in real terms decreased by 3,3%. The fall in incomes of Russian citizens has been going on since November 2014.
      http://www.dp.ru/a/2015/10/19/Padenie_realnih_dohodov/

      On October 19, the fall in Russia's GDP in annual terms in September 2015 slowed to 3,8% from 4,6% in August, Deputy Minister of Economic Development Alexei Vedev told reporters.
      In general, in January-September, according to the ministry, the GDP of the Russian Federation also decreased by 3,8%.
      At the same time, in the third quarter of 2015, the annual decline in GDP is estimated by the ministry at 4,3%.
      http://www.interfax.ru/business/474220

      September 04, 2015 Revenues from the export of Russian oil for 7 months of 2015 fell by 42%, to $ 56,2 billion
      The total value of crude oil exported from Russia over the 7 months of 2015, from January to July 2015, decreased by 42% and amounted to $ 56,2 billion. At the same time, the total volume of oil sent for export increased by 7,2%, to 140,6 million tons
      http://www.dp.ru/a/2015/09/04/Dohodi_ot_jeksporta_rossij/

      http://www.gks.ru/wps/wcm/connect/rosstat_main/rosstat/ru/statistics/enterprise/
      industrial / #



    3. +2
      20 October 2015 14: 21
      For tampering with the "Chechen fountain for a billion" it would be time to beat the face / permabans to distribute to liberomrasians who take everything out of context.

      The whole investment project was evaluated at one billion, of which the notorious fountain is a PART. Investments by the way are not budgetary.
      1. VK
        0
        21 October 2015 22: 48
        You read my mind
    4. 0
      20 October 2015 19: 46
      No need 3.14 to ride. 1 billion rubles worth of fountain. and built it not on budget money. How Kadyrov is looking for sponsors
      you ask them there))
  31. +5
    20 October 2015 08: 41
    Well, and we constantly say that the days of America are numbered.
    And what about Ukraine, what was said in the 14-15 year?
    What literally is a week or two and that's all, there is no such country.
    So everything is fine, we continue to live.
    1. +1
      20 October 2015 10: 12
      Quote: Zomanus
      So everything is fine, we continue to live.

      We continue to live. Only here is abnormal.
      1. +2
        20 October 2015 11: 35
        We continue to live. Only here is abnormal


        We have been living abnormally for 30 years. And it’s unlikely that we will live normally under capitalism.
        1. 0
          21 October 2015 05: 40
          Where did you see capitalism? There is a metropolis, there is a looted periphery, there are governors who are lodgers for feeding. these are signs of what system?
  32. +7
    20 October 2015 08: 41
    Quote: Born in the USSR
    We have the power of the times. They do not care about the country, the people. They have children in the west, money there. Dig any and tomorrow they will all in Europe scream that they were not allowed to steal and rob in Russia. And there are already quite a few of them sitting there. Opposition DIARY.

    Yes, I would not say that temporary workers. All the same faces as in 90 were ... Settled thoroughly))) Only in 90 they sold cheaply, and now they are more expensive. And the problem is not that they rob and steal, but that their western paradigm is completely satisfied. The only thing they want to change is their place in the Western hierarchy.
    Of course, we can here rejoice in the victory of our weapons and be ironic about the collapse of the economy. Indeed, there will be no collapse, the West needs our economy, it feeds them. But the West will pay for it two to three times less than before.
    Military successes are all the more undeniable. Only to the west (by the west I mean transnational corporations and banks) who cares who wins. They only have to continue the war, and who will celebrate another victory is absolutely not important for them.

    By the way, see how, on our part, experts evaluate the state of the Russian economy (Recording a live broadcast from the IEF section): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz5kUuMpDcg
    1. Erg
      0
      20 October 2015 08: 55
      Well, from the 90s, of course, a lot of things have changed. In a positive way. And so, I completely agree.
      1. +1
        20 October 2015 09: 58
        Quote: Erg
        Well, from the 90s, of course, a lot of things have changed. In a positive way.
        What has changed?

        Did a bunch of banks expand that allowed the poor to get goods produced either by foreigners or with the participation of foreign capital?

        Did you increase the production of chicken, which is the meat of the poor for the whole world, but increased it thanks to foreign equipment and feed?

        They started to pull out the army a little bit, but only after hemorrhoids with Georgia, and in such an interesting way that after Serdyukov’s resignation you have to turn everything in the ass?

        What has changed then?
        1. Erg
          0
          20 October 2015 11: 23
          We have changed a lot, friend. smile
  33. Erg
    0
    20 October 2015 08: 47
    Why don't Russia downgrade the United States and Great Britain? wassat I think that we simply do not need to deal with nonsense.
  34. +3
    20 October 2015 09: 01
    Well, the British are accustomed to living at the expense of the colonies. To rob, to deceive. And they can’t imagine that you can work, earn, communicate on equal terms, not rob and humiliate anyone. write? What is Russia destroying terrorists? But what about cheap oil for nothing? The mentality of this England is to live at someone else's expense. That's all.
    1. -7
      20 October 2015 10: 51
      Britain has had no colonies for 60 years.
      1. +1
        20 October 2015 11: 39
        Because he himself became a colony of the USA.
      2. +2
        20 October 2015 12: 07
        Only 60 ...
      3. +2
        20 October 2015 12: 58
        Britain still "never sets the sun" over their territories. Moreover, the states also have colonies that few people know about.
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      5. +2
        20 October 2015 19: 43
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Britain has had no colonies for 60 years.

        officially - yes ... but if you read about the administrative structure of Canada and Australia ...
        Yes, and the United States a lot of all sorts of territories incorporated / unincorporated ...
        so in fact there are colonies, only they were masked a little.
        ... by the way, I didn’t set a minus ...
  35. +3
    20 October 2015 09: 02
    Well, there is some truth in their words: the average salary from Russia is $ 500, and prices are not inferior to European ones. And the truth about loans - "only 25% per annum" - but this is a robbery. And entrepreneurs have to pay even higher percentages.
  36. 0
    20 October 2015 09: 04
    Looks like our fate is to constantly fight back from the Anglo-Saxons and other liberal democrats. There is really another option to attach them to yourself lol
  37. +3
    20 October 2015 09: 15
    In America, you can’t live on 200 bucks a month, but in Russia you can.
    As the artist Batalov once said, "... it's okay, we will cut potatoes as small as possible."
    1. 0
      20 October 2015 10: 10
      Quote: Cap.Morgan
      In America, you can’t live on 200 bucks a month, but in Russia you can.

      In Somalia, and 20 can.
      1. 0
        20 October 2015 21: 49
        In Somalia, such a rich man is likely to be taken hostage for ransom ..
  38. +1
    20 October 2015 09: 23
    If they bark at us, then we are doing everything right!
    The silence of the "democratic" Baltic states and Poland is alarming.
  39. +1
    20 October 2015 09: 28
    Of course we won’t tear to shreds. But it’s time to start getting rid of internal enemies. Irresponsibility and impunity can ruin any country
  40. +2
    20 October 2015 09: 34
    How we were again "torn to shreds" ...

    They tear, tear, and for some reason she (Russia) not only does not break, but also strengthens. Obama is already tired of the "jerk", but still puffs up in words, perhaps these words will reach the Western consumer. But the Western consumer becomes capricious - give him something more truthful without adding Russophobia, and his eyes and ears are still in place and perform the necessary function.
  41. +1
    20 October 2015 09: 36
    From a dead donkey, their ears ... or maybe something else))))
  42. +2
    20 October 2015 09: 37
    While the "fat" dug up in fat years is being depleted. But soon it will reach the meat. And no optimism for the next years.
  43. +1
    20 October 2015 09: 45
    In Estonia, more than a third of recruits did not pass the drug test
    Draftees with positive samples will face administrative punishment, which does not exempt them from military service

    Moscow. The 20th of October. INTERFAX.RU - In Estonia 76 recruits out of 200 randomly selected during the autumn draft of young people in a battalion in the South-East of the country did not pass the test for drug use.

    The test showed that the majority (approximately 90%) had recently used marijuana, some recruits also found signs of amphetamine use, the Postimees newspaper reported on Tuesday.

    According to her, such checks in the Defense Forces have been carried out for the past 15 years, but never before had drug control detected so many young people who use drugs.

    Conscripts who violate the law will face administrative punishment, which does not exempt them from military service.

    "The active promotion of the legalization of marijuana in recent years has led to misconceptions among young people about drugs," said Kristjan Tommingas, head of the anti-drug crime service in the Lõuna prefecture.

    According to him, it has become much easier to buy drugs thanks to online trade. "You don't need to know a drug dealer to order a few grams of amphetamine, marijuana, or new synthetic drugs," Tommingas said.
  44. 0
    20 October 2015 09: 46
    of course we weren’t torn to shreds but such news is a little sad

    Despite the fact that Switzerland imposed sanctions against some Russian officials and banned the import of certain goods from the Russian Federation, this country did not fall under the action of the food embargo of Moscow
  45. +1
    20 October 2015 10: 05
    As much as we spend money, gentlemen, we will bill you ...
    For what heaped up and still can not understand, you have to fork out.
  46. +8
    20 October 2015 10: 06
    Here there are comments that workers cut jobs, reduce wages, and products grow in price. It is and there’s no getting around. But, I would like to note, is this for us - for the first time or what? I will not go into discussions on the topic - what and how should or should not do the government, why?
    I’ll give an example about Britain, I was there not long ago, a friend invited (I’ll clarify right away, a friend, although rich, but earned money with his own head, a brilliant programmer. He didn’t find any use in Russia in the dashing 90s and now has his own company, close contacts with China, and of course with their homeland). So, having arrived there, I received a funny offer from him, and specifically - to live in an English family for a week. Agreed, began to live. Yes, I’ll tell you, if you say strange, it means not to say anything. The points:
    1. They at the store buy everything in advance by counting at home. Impromptu type - but let's arrange a barbecue does not happen. I watched the picture, as the owner (who lived with) for 20 minutes made a decision - to take apples (3 pieces) or not to take (can he afford it or not).
    2. It’s as easy as ours, to open a refrigerator at 2 a.m., to build a cyclopean buter and hone it — they cannot (everything’s counted).
    3. If you have "1 soup, 2 bread and compote" for lunch, then you will not get more.
    4. As the end of the month comes, they fall into hypochondria - for paying bills. And the accounts are not sour, not very sour.
    5. The products they buy - sorry, but I don’t eat that at all. It’s even difficult to call a surrogate.
    6. They save on everything, for example: We drink tea, I understand that tea tastes strange. Once, twice, three times, then I ask - what is this they say? Maybe I don't understand the taste? And they tell me - and this is brewed ginger for cheap. Like, I thought that the cheapest tea is in "condoms"?
    7. Electricity, this is generally a separate song. I was persistently sent to sleep at 23.00 hours. Say early to get up and so on and so forth. And very upset if I continued to watch TV and climb the Internet. It turned out - electricity bills. Like for water and stuff.
    7. They dress at cheap sales. There are, of course, things to come out of, but so is China alone, and not of high quality.
    8. Software about home electronics. I am in Russia, by their standards, a rich man. For when they found out that I have 4K TV, PC. laptop and laptop tablet, top-end smartphone, and much more - they looked at me in surprise. And everyone was trying to figure out how much I get.
    This is of course all mercantile, but their neighbors and not only live in the same way. And this is the middle class. They work in offices, plow like Papa Carlo. But at the beginning of the month there is practically no money, everyone is eating up payments. For a long time we did not go anywhere to rest. I also noticed that they drink a lot in England. Every evening, the white collars, instead of going home, have dinner at the pub. And there, acrome fish chips and nuts more and there is nothing. Something like that. And they still teach us.
    1. +3
      20 October 2015 11: 29
      Quote: Averias
      specifically - to live in an English family for a week. Agreed, began to live.

      Informative, thanks. But a week of such "life" is a lot. I will not say that
      Quote: Averias
      open at 2 a.m. a refrigerator, build a cyclopean buter and sharpen it

      this is our everything, but it's normal))) - if not on a diet. Ginger finished. Let them live like that.
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    3. +4
      20 October 2015 17: 07
      Averias, promise that you will no longer experiment with your psyche like that, we need you healthy. My brother (the same programmer, however)) left the Czech Republic for home in four months, with square eyes and about the same list of "amenities". In addition to sockets, etc., there is a problem to lie in the bath for an hour. So the explanation for any "comments" is simple - it bites better on the other side, the next row goes faster, the neighbor's wife ... well, and further) board.
      As a remark, I paraphrase Papanov - "In the coffin I saw these" European values ​​", in white slippers" (c)
      1. +1
        20 October 2015 19: 31
        In some types of European countries, even plowing makes no sense, all one will no longer be paid.
    4. +1
      21 October 2015 16: 44
      Well, and for one idiotic family in GB, do you judge the whole country?
  47. +1
    20 October 2015 10: 08
    Here's another topic:
    Russia once again invested in US public debt
    http://altapress.ru/story/166854
    (the site doesn’t like the link, google, google)
    In August, Russia increased its investment in US Treasuries of US Treasuries by 7,8 billion dollars. This follows from the data posted on the website of the US Treasury. Now the volume of American debt to Moscow is estimated at 89,9 billion dollars.

    This, as I understand it, because of the development (or development?) Of the economy in your country? Although, apparently, the States have long become their country for the guarantor and rulers, and Russia is only a means of obtaining resources and money.
    1. +2
      20 October 2015 14: 34
      Quote: anip
      Here's another topic:
      Russia once again invested in US public debt
      http://altapress.ru/story/166854
      (the site doesn’t like the link, google, google)
      In August, Russia increased its investment in US Treasuries of US Treasuries by 7,8 billion dollars. This follows from the data posted on the website of the US Treasury. Now the volume of American debt to Moscow is estimated at 89,9 billion dollars.

      This, as I understand it, because of the development (or development?) Of the economy in your country? Although, apparently, the States have long become their country for the guarantor and rulers, and Russia is only a means of obtaining resources and money.

      But in this article a completely different picture: The ebb begins
      China, Russia, Norway, Brazil, Taiwan Dump US Treasuries
      China, Russia, Norway, Brazil and Taiwan “dump” American Treasuries
      Wolf Richter • October 8, 2015
      For the same 12-month period ending in July, Russia “dropped its treasury obligations by 32.8 billion dollars; Norway, which, like Russia, suffered from a drop in oil prices, sold 18.3 billion, and Taiwan - 6.8 billion. http://perevodika.ru/articles/29957.html
      Yes, I recently read that for the current 2015, the gold reserve of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation increased by 240 with more than tons of gold. So who to believe? request what
      1. 0
        21 October 2015 07: 30
        Quote: Captain45
        Yes, I recently read that for the current 2015 the gold reserve of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation increased by more than 240 tons of gold.

        And how did this affect the ruble exchange rate and the welfare of the people?

        Quote: Captain45
        For the same 12-month period ending in July, Russia “dropped $ 32.8 billion in treasury bills

        So what? Dumped one, invested in another in the same States.

        Watch the movie:
        Record live broadcast from the MEF section
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz5kUuMpDcg
  48. +1
    20 October 2015 10: 10
    Poor "NATO elves" from the 50s cannot wait for the fall of Russia. And so you want ..
  49. +2
    20 October 2015 10: 32
    Instead of Microsoft Azure and Amazon Cloud, a cloud platform is planned to be created in Russia - Russian development will replace Microsoft Azure, VMware vCloud and Amazon Cloud and gain "technological independence from the United States."

    The Rosplatform platform project launched by Parallels IT company
    The platform "will become the basis of Russia's electronic sovereignty"
    Okay. We climb to the site of the company that guarantees the "electronic sovereignty of Russia."
    Legal address: Parallels IP Holdings GmbH, Vordergasse 59, Schaffhausen, Switzerland

    And another question: whose iron is there? Something tells me that it’s clearly not Russian.
    1. +1
      20 October 2015 11: 18
      Quote: anip
      And another question: whose iron is there?

      China of course.
  50. +8
    20 October 2015 11: 18
    Quote: Varyag_1973
    P.S. And in general, he began to pay attention to the fact that mainly people who have something to lose, mostly Muscovites who swam in fat, complain! But here in the hinterland, they lived from paycheck to paycheck, and they live on, and they manage to help others, even though they themselves have a ball!


    Actually, you’re right, as a hereditary Muscovite I can say that any deterioration in the level of welfare achieved is perceived very painfully, many of my friends at work have several cars, mostly foreign cars, but are also not happy with their income level - one does not have money for a good bathhouse in a summer house near Moscow, another does not have enough money (scratching his crumbs) to pay for tuition at the institute for children (paid faculty of a famous university); the more opportunities a level of well-being gained by a person provides, the more urgent needs are suddenly manifested in life.
    Ps - I am for free universal education.
    1. +1
      20 October 2015 19: 32
      More precisely and do not characterize! hi
    2. 0
      20 October 2015 20: 36
      Quote: Sheikh
      the more opportunities a person’s well-being provides, the more urgent needs suddenly manifest in life

      What is it like? The belly has become larger - do you need more and tastier to eat? We must live within our means. This is elementary. Requests - yes, they can grow, but I never understood people who live to please requests. Who has liquid soup, and who has small diamonds. I don’t argue with you, maybe I didn’t finish it or you didn’t quite correctly formulate it. About free education - and should not be discussed, and yet we are losing it. And the trend is not in favor of the people. Poorly.
      1. 0
        20 October 2015 21: 58
        Quote: T-73
        About free education - and should not be discussed, and yet we are losing it. And the trend is not in favor of the people. Poorly.

        My daughter studies at the university for free, she also receives a scholarship. Our country was struck by the disease of higher education .., the trouble is that paid tuition at a university does not at all guarantee subsequent employment by profession. The state pays for education only as many specialists as it needs.
  51. +1
    20 October 2015 11: 25
    I don’t know whether there are sanctions or not. But gasoline in St. Petersburg has risen in price by almost 2 rubles since the summer. Putin’s order or whatever it was about oil prices and gasoline prices did not last long.
    1. 0
      20 October 2015 22: 03
      More than 50% of the price of fuel at gas stations is excise taxes and fees. This is how the state collects taxes. If you cannot pay for food for your horse, use other means of transport. I go everywhere by bicycle... in the city it is the fastest transport and the price of fuel does not bother me.
      But in general... this way I pay about a million rubles in taxes... that's how much my two trucks bring to the state... the price of diesel doesn't bother me much... the cost of transportation will just increase.
  52. 0
    20 October 2015 12: 00
    We must understand that they have their own agenda, which is passed down from above, first to civil servants (primarily the President of the United States and parliamentarians), then to the people through the media. Moreover, this wave does not linger within the borders of the United States, but spills over the entire Anglo-Saxon world: Canada, the former owner - Great Britain, Australia, and at the same time the Old World is choked (all mechanisms of economic and political interaction were created after the Second World War by the Marshall Plan), and Japan. And this fooled mass (I’m already talking about ordinary citizens) begins to tear their throats, their shirts, amplifying the signal many times over. Everything in the films has already been shown: there is a common enemy (an alien according to the script: that is, he does not accept bright democratic principles) and we must unite against him. Not without exceptions, of course, but this small minority will not be able to stop the zombie program itself. And everyone is screaming, not realizing that they are serving large capitalists (only the names of Rothschilds and Rockefellers are heard), and not the interests of their countries and their cities and families.
    Therefore, it is a shock for this entire vertical of madness when someone quickly and elegantly destroys their rules and legends (a la we’ve been bombing Syria for 1,5 years, 60 thousand sorties, but we still can’t cope with this ISIS: what can we do? ...) and most importantly, has massive support within his country (it is very difficult to question his legitimacy) and reminds of the existing rules of the game called international law (based on the UN and the sovereignty of the country), in which, as it turns out, the whole this Anglo-Saxon world has not fit in at all for many decades, and now in Syria in particular)
  53. +2
    20 October 2015 12: 49
    8 million old people don’t even have money for firewood, mind you, it wasn’t me who came up with this, but Channel 1, but what kind of greatness and economy can we talk about then? The fact that a country like Russia is entirely dependent on hydrocarbon prices is simply a shame.
  54. +1
    20 October 2015 14: 03
    The Daily Telegraph quotes the head of Rusal, Oleg Deripaska:
    We must stop looking at the exchange rate (of the ruble) and start thinking about what kind of economic policy we need. Nobody will borrow money in foreign currency at 12% in order to invest it later. At its peak, Russia's GDP reached $2,3 trillion. Now this figure has dropped to 1,2 trillion. I'm afraid we'll go back to where we were in 1998, when GDP was $700 billion.
    Is Hu Deribaska? The oligarch, who is returning to his homeland from the big bell tower, is worried about his pocket. The math is simple, yes, we have lost everything over the past year, but I agree with Putin, the problem is not sanctions, but oil prices. If we leave the raw materials economy it will be worse than Crimea, Syria and the bridge to Crimea. I will vote for Putin again.
  55. 0
    20 October 2015 14: 11
    Calculating Russia's GDP (where the currency is the ruble) in dollars is the same as calculating the “value” of assets by stock market capitalization. Sensible people understand that Gazprom or Rosneft, with wells, platforms, pipelines and rights to gigantic volumes of gas and oil, are more expensive than American “startups” - which have only computers and office furniture. The reduced (tens of times) price of shares is one of the Western “sanctions” that have been applied to Russia for 25 years.

    If Russia had come up with the crazy idea of ​​selling a controlling stake in Gazprom, there would have been a queue longer than a mausoleum; and the purchase price would be a trillion dollars.
    1. 0
      20 October 2015 16: 59
      How much is OJSC Gazprom worth today? The total estimated value of this company, whose shares are traded on the stock exchange, changes every business day and depends on the Gazprom share price today. The total value of an OJSC is called market capitalization. It is defined as the price of 100% of the issued shares. Let's calculate the current market capitalization.


      To do this, you need to multiply the total number of shares by the current quote.

      The number of shares has not changed for a long time and is equal to 23 today.

      For example, the current quote for today, May 13, 2014, is 139 rubles. The dollar exchange rate is 34,87 rubles.

      Thus, OAO Gazprom today is worth entirely 3290618293100 rubles or just over 94 billion dollars.

      For example, during the 2008 crisis, the minimum capitalization for many years was achieved - just over $50 billion. Also in 2008, the company reached its maximum price - more than 200 billion dollars! Such a difference was formed in just six months due to the collapse of the stock market.

      You can calculate the current capitalization yourself by multiplying the current rate by the number of securities.
      This is last year. It seems that in 2015 Gazprom's revenue for the year may be lower than in 2014. Accounting statistics lag behind due to their volume within such a huge company. Today there was news on financial indicators for the beginning of the year.

      According to TASS and Federal Customs Service data,

      Gazprom's export revenues decreased by 1,7 times in January-February compared to the same period last year. Excluding Belarus and Kazakhstan, the company sold gas worth $7,4 billion to countries far and near abroad.
      That is, in the first month the company underearned by almost 40%! Prices for gas contracts are tied to oil prices, so until oil rises, everything will be bad for Gazprom. The news may have a negative impact on the company's stock price in the medium term.
  56. +1
    20 October 2015 14: 58
    Don't read British newspapers, it's all propaganda. They were crap and remain crap))))))))) Soon the British will speak Arabic)))))
  57. +2
    20 October 2015 15: 00
    Hello everybody. I read the article with pleasure. Dear Sirs! There is no need to expect objective materials from our “partners”. This has never happened and never will happen. From the point of view of our “partners,” this is nonsense. The question is why? Yes, because RUSSIA is the richest country in resources, and we, the aborigines of this country, are generally superfluous people on earth. Generally unnecessary. And this hatred towards us lasts a lifetime. From the birth of the RUSSIAN state. Few of these “partners” were taught life by our great-great-great-grandfathers, great-great-grandfathers, great-grandfathers, grandfathers, fathers, and us. Apparently our “partners” have neither intelligence nor imagination. They only have hatred at the genetic level for us, the GREAT RUSSIANS. Apparently we will have to remind the great Europe more than once who is boss. Well, RUSSIA is no stranger to teaching its “lesser unreasonable brothers” common sense, but it’s not all horse feed. I would tell you what to do with them, but the admin won’t let them through.
  58. +1
    20 October 2015 15: 53
    “After all, “the most democratic press in the world after the American and Ukrainian” - the press of Her Majesty - cannot

    I’m embarrassed to ask: is this the same second world democracy with a monarchy and without a constitution?
    The Queen must go!
  59. +1
    20 October 2015 15: 55
    - Don’t hit there.
    - And where to beat? Here?
    - No, don’t hit here either.
    - Then let's beat there.
    - No, you can't beat there.
    - And where can I?
    - There.
    - Well, I will beat there.
    - No, only I can go there, you can’t.
    - And where can I go?
    - to you? You can't go anywhere.
    - And why?
    “You don't know where to beat.”
    - Do you know?
    - I know.
    - Then tell me where to beat.
    “No, you may misunderstand.”
    “Just tell me where to beat and that's it.”
    - No, I can’t, suddenly you will miss and I will be to blame.
    - What if you miss yourself?
    - No, I will not miss.
    “Why don't you miss it?”
    “Because I have precision weapons!”
    - And I also have precision weapons - look ...
    - The guard! Guard! He hit without permission! Guard!
    “But I did!”
    - He didn’t hit! He didn’t get there! He has a shortage!
    “But how did he not get when he got?”
    - He got where you can’t! Guard!
    - Yes, I’m okay!
    - Not! Not ok! Not there! Guard!
    - Lets do it...
    - Not! I do not want! I can not! I won’t! Not there! Ahhh! ..

    The teacher runs to the cry:

    - Who offended Borenka again? Is it you again, Vova?
  60. 0
    20 October 2015 16: 03
    Our economy is truly torn to shreds, they are right.
  61. 0
    20 October 2015 16: 48
    So far, the main effect in the economy is a reduction in its size. “At its peak, GDP reached $2,3 trillion. Now this figure has dropped to 1,2 trillion. I am afraid that we will return to the level of 1998, when GDP was $700 billion,” says Deripaska.
    That's less than Holland's GDP ($850 billion), which would be a highly surprising situation for a country that aspires to superpower status in Europe and the Middle East.
    In a sense, Putin has no choice. It cannot afford to spend foreign exchange reserves to defend the ruble. Reserves have already fallen from $520 billion to $371 billion. Standard & Poor's said that 40% of these reserves are intended for other purposes and cannot be used.
    These reserves look large on paper, but are close to the minimum safe levels needed to maintain confidence and pay the external debt of Russian companies, which require $12-$15 billion per quarter.

    The crisis is just beginning to emerge in full force, and Putin can no longer put off choosing between guns and butter. Real incomes have fallen 9,8% over the past year. Food prices increased by 17%.

    Ivan Starikov, a former deputy economics minister, said real inflation is around 30%. “We are rapidly approaching the fateful point when 50% of the income of the average Russian family will be spent on food. We have once again become a country of poor people,” he said.
    This is what is not written about in this article. You can walk with your eyes closed for a while, but then you will have to open them. Economics is not a deceiving matter.
  62. 0
    20 October 2015 16: 52
    A fairy tale in reality.".. - We will destroy this Malchish. But let him first tell us all their Military Secret. You go, bourgeois, and ask him:
    “Why, Malchish, did the Forty Kings and Forty Kings fight with the Red Army, fight and fight, only to be defeated themselves?”
    - Why, Malchish, are all the prisons full, and all the penal servitudes are packed, and all the gendarmes are on the corners, and all the troops are on their feet, but we have no peace either on a bright day or on a dark night?
    - Why, Malchish, damned Kibalchish, and in my High Bourgeoisie, and in another - the Plain Kingdom, and in the third - the Snowy Kingdom, and in the fourth - the Sultry State on the same day in early spring and on the same day in late autumn on in different languages, but they sing the same songs, in different hands, but they carry the same banners, they speak the same speeches, they think the same things and do the same things?
    You ask the bourgeois:
    - Doesn’t the Red Army have a military secret, Malchish? Let him tell the secret.
    — Do our workers have outside help? And let him tell you where the help comes from.
    “Isn’t there, Malchish, a secret passage from your country to all other countries, on which, as they click on you, they will respond to us, as they sing from you, so they will pick up from us, what they say from you, they will think about it here?”
    The bourgeoisie left, but soon returned:
    - No, Chief Burzhuin, Malchish-Kibalchish did not reveal the Military Secret to us. He laughed in our faces.
    “There is,” he says, “and a powerful secret to the strong Red Army.” And whenever you attack, there will be no victory for you.
    “There is,” he says, “and innumerable help, and no matter how much you go to jail, you still will not be thrown over, and there will be no rest for you on a bright day or on a dark night.”
    “There are,” he says, “and deep secret passages.” But no matter how much you search, you still won’t find it. And if they found it, don’t fill it up, don’t lay it down, don’t fill it up. And I won’t tell you anything more, the bourgeoisie, and you, the damned ones, will never guess..." A fairy tale about a military secret, Malchisha-Kibalchisha and his firm word."
  63. 0
    20 October 2015 16: 55
    Quote: Varyag_1973
    The government should and must change, the question is how! You might think that given the current state of affairs, you would not steal if you were in the place of the same Khoroshavin or Serdyukov! We are all honest until they let us near the feeding trough.

    here the vicious circle needs to be broken, we need a law against the embezzler with confiscation of property, including from relatives as accomplices of the embezzler, and they should be held accountable for complicity with loss of rights for not informing. The Criminal Code should be revised, otherwise for a sack of potatoes you get 3 years (and that’s right), and for a billion years probation, for murder on a Ferrari by your daddy’s son you can pay off, and if you defend your life, God forbid, you’ll end up serving quite a long sentence. but our deputies will never accept such laws, and we will not be allowed to choose others, we probably need to install an emperor/tsar/king in the kingdom, with the right to cut off the heads of snakes.
  64. 0
    20 October 2015 17: 43
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    But this is not a consequence of a collapsed economy, and certainly not the result of sanctions. The usual greed of our hucksters, which in 25 years one could get used to...

    But there’s no need to get used to it, and it’s high time the hucksters were hit in the teeth for speculation with confiscation of property. From what five-fold price did everything made from our raw materials go up in price? Not at all. It’s just that our bastard traders took it and raised prices. In a week you can deal with speculators. Especially during wartime. The dollar went up. There were no economic reasons for this. There are no technological ones either. Why is it possible for them but not for us? By the right of the strong?. So this is also “grandmother said for two.” In some sectors of the United States, we are oh so far from us, including the military. We must respond to this in a similar way, silently legislating the relationship between the ruble and the dollar. We do not produce 60 times less per person than the United States.
  65. 0
    20 October 2015 17: 52
    I’m embarrassed to ask the critics of my country. Aren't you tired? The city’s economy, GDP is below par, everything is bad and other heresy is already ringing in our ears - what are you doing here, everything is bad right away? Oh, no, I forgot, the Internet is cheap and you can afford not to work (otherwise, yeah?) and criticize everything around you 24/7, right? If you don’t like something, go do it better. Any living creature defends its territory, and only liberals of all stripes try to sell it and think they can get away with it. Figo - birch and rope.
  66. 0
    20 October 2015 19: 47
    Whatever the child would entertain, if only he would not cry. laughing
  67. 0
    20 October 2015 19: 59
    There has been an amazing reaction to the fall in gas prices on the foreign market, they are vigorously pulling gas pipes to everyone and the price has risen again...
  68. 0
    20 October 2015 20: 27
    “Our enemies don’t know that we have a Motherland. They always attack our state, but they receive stars from the Motherland.” M. Zadornov.
  69. 0
    20 October 2015 23: 08
    If you survived in the 40s, survived in the 90s, then all that remains is to say: you won’t wait. The only thing that needs to be done is to preserve the state. Internal problems will be resolved along the way.
  70. 0
    20 October 2015 23: 22
    [/ Quote]
    Maybe things aren’t as bad with us as in dollars it seems? In dollars, GDP fell by half, but in rubles, no! Yes, milk and bread have risen in price. But this is not a consequence of a collapsed economy and, moreover, not the results of sanctions. The usual greed of our hucksters, which for 25 years could get used to ... hi[/ Quote]
    You are only partly right. Of course, any commercial enterprise is created with the aim of making a profit. But there are also objective reasons for increasing prices for goods and services produced by Russian entrepreneurs. The key is the decline in consumer activity against the backdrop of an increase in the base lending rate regulated by the Central Bank. Having not yet received income, the manufacturer of the product is forced to purchase raw materials, components, and pay the labor of its employees. For example, diesel fuel, grain for sowing, and labor costs must be paid in the spring, but the profit will only be made in winter. Those. In order not to interrupt the technological cycle, small enterprises, in the absence of a sufficient amount of working capital, are forced to borrow from bankers at an increased rate, reducing their own profits. Farms become poorer or are forced to raise consumer prices. And this is a very primitive explanation. In fact, many subtleties of the wealth creation process play a role. The share of the real sector in GDP is decreasing. We are really getting poorer. But, of course, not all is lost! Let's work and everything will work out!
  71. 0
    21 October 2015 11: 19
    You know, like in the cartoon. "WHAT? AGAIN??"
  72. 0
    21 October 2015 15: 39
    Until the dollar costs 65 kopecks, the attitude towards us will not change.
  73. 0
    21 October 2015 17: 16
    What a Deripaska! What English newspaper? Russia's GDP has long been well over three trillion! Germany has been bypassed a long time ago! Are we running out of money? Yes, the British are building nuclear power plants with the help of Chinese money! And respected Spain cannot be economically on a par with Russia a priori.
  74. 0
    21 October 2015 18: 00
    Silly ones! Everyone knows that in the modern world, war is an excellent opportunity to pour money into your economy!!!
  75. 0
    22 October 2015 07: 55
    From su..ko derepiska, what a prokhor that derepiska is one dick...r.
  76. 0
    22 October 2015 11: 58
    If you tell a person a hundred times that he is a pig, the first time he will grunt. After all, they’ll end up croaking, “and Russian Mordor will rise,” and you’ll have to answer for the bazaar.
  77. 0
    22 October 2015 12: 50
    - from under which Britain itself has not crawled out for a long time.

    I'm lying under the table... laughing
  78. 0
    22 October 2015 16: 32
    Britain ALWAYS! for 500 years it spoiled Muscovy, and later the Russian Empire and the USSR. And he doesn’t shy away from it now. The Beidelberg club of “rulers of the world” is an invention of the Khazar tribe of loan capital and profit from the activities of distillery artels. Their latest idea is to reduce the planet’s population by 6 billion people, leaving the “golden billion”. (Read T. Grachev’s “Khazars” for more details). Note: Why is Tolik Red living there today?
  79. 0
    22 October 2015 16: 43
    "Russia does everything wrong" wink
    Author.....tell me for Christ's sake wink In our country, what is “done like this”?????
    IN YOUR COUNTRY WHAT?
    How are citizens living? What about the authorities?