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The American company Northrop Grumman has developed a promising reconnaissance armored vehicle Hellhound. A special feature of this 5,9 tonne off-road vehicle is the 100 compact kilowatt generator, which is able to provide a small hospital with electricity, a command post or a laser installation, reports Popular Mechanics, citing defensenews.com.



For comparison, the power of the M2 Bradley armored vehicle generator is slightly less than 20 kW with the mass of the vehicle in 27,6 tons.

"The 100-kilowatt generator, installed in Hellhound, will provide power to the active protection system for an armored car, communication system, surveillance and electronic warfare," the newspaper writes. “Moreover, the residual power of a compact generator is enough to power a ten-kilowatt laser machine, which needs a 30-40 kilowatt of electricity for full-fledged work.”

According to the resource, Hellhound is being developed in accordance with the terms of the Pentagon's competition for the creation of an easy reconnaissance combat vehicle.




Another new product demonstrated by the company is the MUVR multifunctional self-propelled robot, which was also developed in the interests of the Ministry of Defense.



"The tracked vehicle is equipped with communication systems that are able to act as a communication unit, surveillance system and machine gun caliber 12,7 mm," - said the publication.

According to the portal, “MUVR (Micro-Utility Vehicle Robot) is designed to patrol and protect various objects, as well as to clear the ground”. In addition, the robot can carry up to 225 kg of cargo, including ammunition. For these purposes, the cargo compartment is equipped in the rear part of the hull. In the case of a trailer, the load capacity is doubled.

Soon, a robotic vehicle is waiting for field trials at the site in Texas and then in Hawaii in the jungle.

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  1. +18
    19 October 2015 15: 19
    The American company Northrop Grumman has developed a promising reconnaissance armored vehicle Hellhound.

    Are there cup holders and ashtrays? If not, then to finalize the armored car laughing
    1. +25
      19 October 2015 15: 25
      I liked the idea of ​​the robot - it delivers supplies itself and protects itself from mines.
      1. +9
        19 October 2015 15: 44
        We have a similar robot. And BRDM is good, at least an expert.
        1. +2
          19 October 2015 18: 07
          Quote: Observer 33
          And BRDM is good, at least an expert.


          Yes, no, Oleg, 100 kilowatts will probably not be enough. wassat
        2. +1
          20 October 2015 09: 22
          Quote: Observer 33
          We have a similar robot. And BRDM is good, at least an expert.

          Too long and too low, on such an asphalt it is better not to move out.
          The tunnel was not removed from the passenger compartment, loafers.
      2. +5
        19 October 2015 15: 46
        Quote: Corporal
        I liked the idea with the robot

        Only with us such a unit was presented in action a little earlier. The car is useful, no doubt.
        1. yan 2015
          +6
          19 October 2015 15: 53
          interesting. and they are not familiar with our agricultural combine harvesters with nuclear weapons on board. otherwise we’re all modest.)
        2. +2
          19 October 2015 18: 06
          Quote: Garris199
          Only with us such a unit was presented in action a little earlier. The car is useful, no doubt.


          Igor, ours and mine clearance are wider than the body of the car, but for the Americans, for some reason already?

          Somehow it's dangerous for the Yankees. No.
      3. +13
        19 October 2015 15: 52
        Hope this is sarcasm ?! In case of any detonation, the ammunition will detonate and here the jolly will be :) our option:
      4. +4
        19 October 2015 16: 08
        Well, they can’t be all bad.
      5. +4
        19 October 2015 16: 32
        the second toy reminded the "goliath" of the Germans during the Second World War ...
        1. +1
          19 October 2015 21: 08
          What does the German Goliath have to do with it? It was the first ultra-long-wave radio station in the world, built (I might be a little mistaken) by the Germans in 1939 and used to communicate with submarines. The transmitter power was 20kW. After the war, it was exported to the USSR and installed near Gorky. She was at the combat post before the collapse. Goliath2 is working there now.
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          2. 0
            20 October 2015 09: 51
            The gloomy Teutonic genius gave birth to another "Goliath" - a self-propelled remote-controlled tracked vehicle that carried an explosive charge and could be used both to destroy enemy objects (field fortifications, armored vehicles, etc.), and to make passages in a mine barrage of the enemy. This is how he looked (photo from the museum in Kubinka):
    2. +7
      19 October 2015 15: 28
      Quote: Wend
      Are there cup holders and ashtrays?

      Probably not, but there is a built-in opener for Pepsi, the same as on the American B-29 Superfortress bomber, and having copied this plane, they left this opener, and this plane was called Tu-4 ...
      1. +17
        19 October 2015 15: 39
        And why should the reconnaissance vehicle provide power to the hospital? what there are special mto machines for this. Or should it be an enemy hospital deep in the rear of the "enemy"? Isis maybe? laughing
        1. +5
          19 October 2015 16: 55
          Quote: marlin1203
          And why should the reconnaissance vehicle provide power to the hospital?

          The machine is multifunctional. They went into reconnaissance, were injured, opened a hospital, provided electric power, sewn arms, legs, and again into reconnaissance.
      2. +6
        19 October 2015 16: 08
        Well, what's wrong with being copied. It would be okay if on that 4 the whole history of Tu ended ... Well, there was not enough technology in the country. Before that, there were 20 years of wars and shock lines ... and there were not enough resources and opportunities for everything. They copied to the last nut and screw just so that nothing would be spoiled. And then we have enough "rationalizing" then bringing the product beyond recognition. At that time, the Japanese tried to copy it, but it did not work, just as some company also did not work. It should be recalled that while the Germans were alive and working at NASA, they managed to create something there, but now there are serious problems with personnel and development. True, not everything is in chocolate either, but at least what Korolev did is still working, even the Chinese copy it. Only they also do not manage to copy everything .. The engines, as I understand it, they cannot do themselves ...
        So sometimes you need to be able to copy something worthy ... and not do as the Chinese do only outward resemblance.
        If I’m not mistaken, they found a camera in an American airplane (like a watering can) and as a result we got a photodiode converter)
        1. 0
          19 October 2015 21: 23
          The glider was only copied, the rest (filling) is small. About the "camera" of the demschiz broadcasts so that everyone thinks that the plane has been copied entirely.
      3. +2
        19 October 2015 16: 08
        ... only it was not an opener, but a cup holder in the panel :)
      4. 0
        19 October 2015 21: 20
        Coca-Cola's rights were violated? Tepert company Boeng and Bulgarian citizen Arsen Yordanov, are in for trouble ...
    3. yan 2015
      +3
      19 October 2015 15: 51
      It is very important and relevant that the car was equipped with diapers, large sizes.
      otherwise God forbid ... anything can happen.
    4. +3
      19 October 2015 17: 13
      the most important thing is the built-in latrine!
    5. gjv
      +4
      19 October 2015 17: 38
      Quote: Wend
      Are there cup holders and ashtrays?

      Here are the views on the exterior ...



      But the question of cup holders and ashtrays. Take a look or not? The lighting inside let us down and the resolution of the photo is small.
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      2. gjv
        +2
        19 October 2015 18: 51
        Quote: gjv
        But the question of cup holders and ashtrays

        A bigger photo was found - the driver's cockpit. Siotrite where to stick "bulls" here ...
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        2. gjv
          +1
          19 October 2015 18: 55
          Here is a bigger look.
    6. 0
      20 October 2015 10: 42
      in fact, cigarette lighters and ashtrays are not provided for in American cars.
      1. 0
        20 October 2015 19: 28
        Somehow, one hardly believes in the usefulness of a 30 kW laser.
  2. +6
    19 October 2015 15: 20
    The terrible thing .. for the Arabs! And so funny ..)))
    1. +2
      19 October 2015 15: 51
      Quote: MIKHAN
      The terrible thing .. for the Arabs! And so funny ..)))

      Camels will surely perish in horror.
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    3. 0
      19 October 2015 18: 46
      Quote: MIKHAN
      The terrible thing .. for the Arabs! And so funny ..)))

      And what made you laugh in this car?
  3. +5
    19 October 2015 15: 20
    Another new product demonstrated by the company is the MUVR multifunctional self-propelled robot, which was also developed in the interests of the Ministry of Defense.
    According to the portal, “MUVR (Micro-Utility Vehicle Robot) is designed to patrol and protect various objects, as well as to clear the ground”. In addition, the robot can carry up to 225 kg of cargo, including ammunition. For these purposes, the cargo compartment is equipped in the rear part of the hull. In the case of a trailer, the load capacity is doubled.

    Simply put, they copied our "Uran-6" sapper robot. But still very pleased with the photo "tactical cart". We sometimes carry such firewood at the dacha
    1. +8
      19 October 2015 15: 32
      If you copied. This one is several times smaller. I wonder if it won’t turn over when clearing anti-tank mines?
  4. +3
    19 October 2015 15: 22
    I sit and think: is it not Petit’s Poroshenko’s development? They are painfully ugly-universal, the hand of the craftsmen of the 404 country is felt ... lol
  5. +11
    19 October 2015 15: 25
    "The special feature of this 5,9 ton all-terrain vehicle is a compact 100 kilowatt generator, which is able to provide electricity to a small hospital, command post or laser installation."

    Diesel generator, in short. On wheels and with a machine gun. And about the laser, which should be powered by another device - without comment at all. It looks cool: there is a laser, only it does not shoot, because the Hellhound (Hellhound) has not yet arrived ...
    I wonder how much such a thing costs?
    1. +3
      19 October 2015 17: 42
      Quote: Corsair0304
      100 kilowatt generator, which can provide electricity to a small hospital, command post or laser installation

      But why the hell is all this a reconnaissance vehicle? request
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    3. gjv
      +3
      19 October 2015 19: 05
      Quote: Corsair0304
      I wonder how much such a thing costs?

      Americans do not indicate a price. The prototype type is priceless. However, the commercial is already there. Request a price from Jeff Wood. Can answer, can sell. Although, sanctions ... request
      1. +2
        20 October 2015 00: 07
        a dropping electric roof is a thing, just like in FORCING-5. he painted the car so merrily in palm trees-sea-steamboats, you roll around in a drug country for a showdown - and here it’s! - rolled up.
        Argument? Argument..
        .
        just do not put on this machine, but on the goose with DUMB ..
        but the Soviet design bureaus are likely to make armored plates that are tilted upwards, if necessary, like on a BMP-3 in the stern ..
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    5. gjv
      +2
      19 October 2015 19: 38
      Quote: Corsair0304
      I wonder how much such a thing costs?

      Quote: Vladimirets
      But why the hell is all this a reconnaissance vehicle?

      Quote: gjv
      Although, sanctions ...

      Let the generator keep for themselves, and the EOS and the gun too. It will turn out to be a simple "jeep" if you like driving performance.
      And at home you can use GS-100-B, EOS from Novella and 2A42 or 2A72.
  6. 0
    19 October 2015 15: 27
    not otherwise controlled by GPS. and throws mines in the box one left. however, ahead of the rest. the loot will be asked for serial production from the State Department. it's not for you a damn thing.
  7. +3
    19 October 2015 15: 28
    A robot in the jungle ... I immediately remembered the films about Vietnam, when the soldiers rummaged there knee-deep in the swamp liquid between the vines. And he didn’t particularly introduce this tractor in such a setting!
    1. 0
      19 October 2015 22: 39
      it’s immediately understood that you didn’t ruin other films about the war ...
  8. +19
    19 October 2015 15: 28
    "And so - let's imagine that you are very very angry, you are standing in the fifth traffic jam, trying to go around the traffic jam for the fifth time on your way home, and you really want to go to the toilet."
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    2. gjv
      +2
      19 October 2015 17: 44
      Quote: DEZINTO
      very angry ... and really want to use the toilet

      Thank you, really relevant comment. good bully wassat
  9. +2
    19 October 2015 15: 28
    An indispensable thing in harvesting potatoes, in the jungle, picking bananas will work.
  10. +2
    19 October 2015 15: 30
    And what have Americans done in recent years, what could have been surprising ??? And they made a zilch, and they pass it off as a cool development.
  11. +8
    19 October 2015 15: 31
    About the first (supposedly reconnaissance) exhibit - it is generally not clear what it is and why it is needed (well, not as a lighting mast). Call it a mobile DES - and you shouldn’t spread your fingers anymore, that you can feed the laser from it. If the generated energy is surplus, then at least the gray is the desert where you are based. What does a laser have to do with it? Someone may shave their favorite electric razor, perhaps the height of comfort and the peak of the combat use of this tachanka .. Laser-laser ... You need to sell a car with any sauce, that’s the whole story.
    1. +4
      19 October 2015 15: 38
      Quote: Sergey-8848
      About the first (supposedly reconnaissance) exhibit - it is generally not clear what it is and why it is needed (well, not as a lighting mast).

      -----------------
      This Hellhound (you can probably translate it as "Cerberus-dog of hell" or "dog of the Baskervilles") is similar to HUMVEE-2.0, the windshield design was replaced (tilted), well, it was crossed with an electrical substation and an infantry fighting vehicle ... Pure marketing garbage, sorry, compilation ... But the robot is interesting, but it seems like we already have, they tried to use something like that in the Chernobyl zone ...
    2. +2
      19 October 2015 18: 27
      the US has a laser right now a wunderwaffe ... They want to put them everywhere already: on planes on ships on tanks and just on carts and camels, but probably not enough energy for planes and the rest of the land equipment ... Here are the craftsmen and perverted ...
  12. +2
    19 October 2015 15: 34
    It seems to me, or is it all really raw looking?
  13. +5
    19 October 2015 15: 35
    Laser weapons, railguns, walking donkey robots. Where is Navalny looking? This is a golem cut. laughing
    1. gjv
      +1
      19 October 2015 18: 40
      Quote: AlexTires
      Laser weapons, railguns, walking donkey robots. Where is Navalny looking? This is a golem cut

      Yes, Americans approach laser weapons with a large "file". For example, an airplane.

      The hour of flight operation of such an airplane is estimated at $ 92000. There are so many chemicals on board such an aircraft that the crew must wear protective suits to stay alive.
    2. 0
      19 October 2015 22: 37
      he is a robot himself ... belay
  14. +10
    19 October 2015 15: 37
    If a powerful generator was in the technical task of the tender,
    then this is an interesting trend for the future. Army gradually
    converted to electricity.
    1. +2
      19 October 2015 15: 57
      Quote: voyaka uh
      If a powerful generator was in the technical task of the tender,
      then this is an interesting trend for the future. Army gradually
      converted to electricity.

      Introduced. Rides such a super duper generator, and around males with a knot tanks with cables lol
      1. +5
        19 October 2015 16: 24
        Not with cables, but with generators and capacious batteries
        Tanks are also going to be converted into "hybrids".
        1. +1
          19 October 2015 22: 17
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Tanks are also going to be converted to "hybrids"

          What for? What is the meaning of hybrids in general? Well, there they have a small little plus sign .. not for long, not fast, but you can move on electric drive. You have to pay for this a) overweight (increased fuel consumption, brakes) b. design complexity (as a result, unreliability, difficulty in repair and maintenance))
          Miracles do not happen diesel efficiency is the highest in the internal combustion engine. In certain modes, it reaches 75%. Why instead of him stick a hybrid to the tank? Feng Shui?
          1. 0
            19 October 2015 22: 32
            then when braking, the energy is not lost but pumped into its battery, the same in electric trains back to the mains.

            the tank is still quietly creeping out of place, and it is not enough to radiate heat ...
            1. 0
              19 October 2015 22: 36
              Quote: Scraptor
              then when braking, the energy is not lost but pumped into its battery, the same in electric trains back to the mains.

              UGH .. how much does the train weigh and what is its braking path? And how will the short-pulse braking of a light auto charge an acc? All savings immediately gobble up the increased mass of the device. This is physics ... and no arguing against it.
              1. 0
                19 October 2015 22: 45
                as it starts, it slows down, an inverter with capacitors helps ...
                1. +1
                  19 October 2015 23: 00
                  Quote: Scraptor
                  as it starts, it slows down, an inverter with capacitors helps

                  And then these "Jews")))? What is the distance and duration of braking of a 5t car? And trains weighing hundreds of tons.?
                  1. 0
                    19 October 2015 23: 20
                    Not hundreds but thousands

                    despite the fact that at least secondary technical thinking is necessary for higher education.
                    1. 0
                      20 October 2015 00: 51
                      Quote: Scraptor
                      Not hundreds but thousands

                      AND? What is the stopping distance of a train and what energy can be capitalized from this? And what is a 5t car? And why are you capitalizing on these moments?
                      1. 0
                        20 October 2015 01: 04
                        In different ways, 60-90 percent ... Do you know what "engine brake" is? And it's not clear where you found the "moments" there? Drive lightly or cross the street more carefully, not just the path. The train starts up and is slowed down (by the engine) by one tractor / locomotive ... If there is an emergency on the railway or automatic coupling, then there are also brakes.
                      2. 0
                        20 October 2015 01: 11
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        In different ways, 60-90 percent ... Do you know what "engine brake" is?

                        I know .. I have two trucks, I drive one myself .. Well, answer the question .. what is the percentage of hybrids in total auto sales?
                        And ... to save, you can just roll to neutral .. The effect is the same as with absorption. But .. the design is simpler, easier .. And this is the saving, saving .. in everything.
                        The only real plus of hybrids is the ability to move in traffic jams on electric traction. Here, yes, savings .. But .. in what traffic jam will the tank stupid?
                      3. 0
                        20 October 2015 01: 36
                        And what is the percentage of automatic transmission? And on your trucks too?
                        On neutral, you can roll when you do not need to slow down. The effect is not the same ...
                        And how many clean electric cars in the cities?
                        The tank needs to go downhill and climb into it (and it is heavy), in addition, it is simply much more important to make less noise.
                      4. 0
                        20 October 2015 01: 40
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        And what is the percentage of automatic transmission?

                        Just ... one answer to one question ..
                        What is the percentage of hybrid sales? And that’s all ..
                      5. 0
                        20 October 2015 01: 43
                        Small but varies by country. Oil companies were against it.

                        Why all at once? The remaining questions were not immediately interesting?
                  2. 0
                    20 October 2015 00: 31
                    Due to the large losses on the transmission, fuel economy will not be as big as on wheeled vehicles, but nonetheless ... And more important is acoustic stealth on the battlefield (or right in front of it).


            2. 0
              19 October 2015 22: 40
              Quote: Scraptor
              the tank is still quietly creeping out of place, and it is not enough to radiate heat ...

              In combat mode, you still have to use the internal combustion engine. TC batteries and electric motors for full movement of a tank weighing 50 tons are simply indecent sizes, which contradicts one of the concepts of BT-compactness.
              And now there are means of destruction that are not aimed at heat .. Such even the majority ..
              1. 0
                19 October 2015 22: 51
                No need, like a dashboard. No one claims that they need to drive 20 km. In addition to guidance, there is still detection, and most of these tools reveal themselves.
                Alternatively, carry the cart on a trailer in an orderly way so as not to overload, hang them externally on the armor so as not to occupy the reserved volume of the tank (LBT will be even more useful) ...
                1. 0
                  19 October 2015 22: 53
                  "Wow" is one of the few "striped" who rarely writes nonsense, probably went there for love and not hate ... love
                2. 0
                  19 October 2015 22: 55
                  Quote: Scraptor
                  Alternatively, carry the cart on a trailer in an orderly way so as not to overload, hang them externally on the armor so as not to occupy the reserved volume of the tank (LBT will be even more useful) ...

                  And all for what? To amuse the "green"?
                  Batteries on the armor ... the cart at the back ... WHAT? I have a great diesel, flexible transmission .. Why are these hybrid show-offs?
                  1. 0
                    19 October 2015 23: 00
                    to go unnoticed for longer and have a longer range at one gas station
                    1. 0
                      19 October 2015 23: 04
                      Quote: Scraptor
                      to go unnoticed for longer and have a longer range at one gas station

                      That's bullshit. At low speeds el. create a high-frequency sound that is audible better than the low-frequency sound created by a diesel engine at low speeds. There is no saving. The law of conservation of energy is the efficiency of the main engine. Everything else came up with marketers.
                      1. 0
                        19 October 2015 23: 26
                        Low frequencies propagate much better
                        Gas turbine also makes noise above frequency
                        Electric transmission in armored vehicles has been used for a long time, just added batteries and an inverter.

                        Did they come up with the idea that auto hybrids have a longer range and it pays off after how much (for some reason)?
                      2. 0
                        20 October 2015 00: 48
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Low frequencies propagate much better

                        Can you read? Do you catch the difference between audibility and distribution? A person will hear below 40-50Hz .. there are only 20 people who hear, at the top a person will reduce 16 / 17kHz .. unique people hear up to 20k .. High-frequency spectrum, that is, a person can hear sharp, subtle sounds better than low-frequency bump.
                        And once again .. the range hybrids do not add. Law of energy conservation. And since you started talking about practice .. What is the percentage of hybrid cars in total sales? Here is the answer.
                      3. 0
                        20 October 2015 01: 27
                        And you? What spreads better is better heard. A running diesel engine is audible from afar, a high-speed gas turbine is not. The electric motor almost does not make noise.

                        You have some strange laws, through the Looking Glass ...
                        It was such that the price of gasoline still had to drop oil prices urgently to pay off longer.
                        The bottom key of the standard piano is 27,5, kind of, do you and most of your friends hear it?
                        When they simply brake, there is a thermal discharge through the brakes, and energy is lost. When the engine / generator slows down, it is given back to the mains or to the battery energy.
                        A hybrid car is needed not to drive around the city on an electric motor and burn fuel outside the city, but in order not to lose energy when braking when stopping or braking when going downhill. It is then spent on accelerating a car when starting off or on a climb uphill. If there is no contact network on the railway, the same is used by most diesel locomotives.
                      4. 0
                        20 October 2015 01: 38
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        The bottom key of the standard piano is 27,5, kind of, do you and most of your friends hear it?

                        About half do not hear, but a person perceives waves of this frequency with the skin .. okay .. this is biology.
                        ..
                        Taki .. if everything is as beautiful as you paint and hybrids are so economical .. What is the percentage of sales of hybrids? .. just answer this question .. and all ..
                      5. 0
                        20 October 2015 01: 49
                        Taki mutants probably ... It is somehow strange quickly you interviewed them.

                        Of the oil companies that were against, probably ...

                        Why all"? From there? So all the other questions immediately became uninteresting?
                        Or are we working on reconnaissance of NATO countries, whose tanks, like the Israeli ones, will be hard to hear for soldiers (like the T-80) even near 100 meters?

                        On a hybrid, the electric locomotive and electric vehicle principle of non-emergency engine braking with energy conservation is simply applied, that's all!
                        In an ordinary car, when the engine is non-emergency, it is simply lost in heat as on brakes.
                      6. 0
                        20 October 2015 11: 43
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Of the oil companies that were against, probably ...


                        Ie oil companies brake progress? Do I understand correctly?
                        Over the past 50 years, fuel consumption in ICE has halved. The oil industry workers didn’t prevent this. But because of 1-2% savings in certain conditions, they suddenly make a buch? Are you seriously?
                        Hybrids are not relevant, because they are more expensive, more complex and less reliable than their fellow thermal and electric vehicles. Moreover, the Elmobiles are gaining their niche, charging stations are being built. But the hybrids will be .. outsiders. For they do not give any savings.
                        The fact that such a system has taken root in the railway I must say thanks to the features of the cargo flow on the railway. The percentage of stopping and idling there is large and gives an economic effect.

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                      7. 0
                        20 October 2015 12: 00
                        Often Yes
                        Well, decreased and decreased ... Where did 1-2% come from?
                        Hindered by a hydrogen engine, stands ready from the beginning of the 70s. The crankshaft in it is 3 times stronger than almost everything.
                        Remove from the handbrake ... When braking a car in 1-5 tons, all the energy of the movement goes into the heat through the brakes. Then, during acceleration, gasoline eats. Girid does so that you ride without losing on acceleration and braking and ups and downs. You just roll around all the time almost like in a higher gear when it is about to stall.

                        They are already writing wikipedia articles ... Yes And the fact that such a system is used even in electric scooters - they did not write something.
                        And about trams with frequent stops at the end, demolished.
                      8. 0
                        20 October 2015 22: 38
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Hindered the hydrogen engine

                        Yeah .. oil workers .. not only is hydrogen very explosive, which means that the fuel system should be an order of magnitude stronger than usual .., the issue of storing enough hydrogen on a car hasn’t yet been solved .. oil workers are also likely to interfere ..
                        Yes .. the economy of the hybrid is 1-2% and then not always, but only in the urban mode. With long trains from the hybrid, there’s no sense at all, the consumption is only growing .. due to the additional weight of the batteries .. that's all.
                        There is such a device on the truck - retard / retarder .., so its task is to maintain uniform speed during long descents. Conventional fluid coupling, cooling from a standard system. Even in the most difficult conditions, heating the retards cannot significantly affect the coolant temperature .. that’s all the energy that can be absorbed. By the way, they tried to put an electric brake instead of a fluid coupling .., and refused.
                        Saving received the minimum, and hemorrhagic maximum ..
                        https://www.drive2.ru/b/1973854/
                        If you still do not understand, then I will explain The meaning in hybrids will appear, if they will save 10-15% (minimum) of thermal ICEs.
                      9. 0
                        21 October 2015 07: 30
                        All this has been decided for a long time and gasoline vapors are no less dangerous.

                        Where did anyone write about saving a hybrid of 1-2%? and why did the previous link start not with an electric locomotive but with a car that had to be bawled?

                        It has an additional suspension of 3-4 batteries and that's it.

                        Your hydraulic clutch then doesn’t give it back to the engine shaft when lifting.
                        All the energy is that the truck left the mountain or braked, it is accumulated with at least 60% of the shares and then given up on a rise or on acceleration.

                        Even the first hybrids gave a saving of 20%.
                      10. 0
                        22 October 2015 01: 13
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Even the first hybrids gave a saving of 20%.


                        As given and taken away. To get acquainted with the realities
                        http://forums.drom.ru/hybrid-eco-cars/t1150921146.html

                        For comparison, I’ll say .. once I drove Golf2 GTI engine 1.8 mechanical injection. 118 h.p.
                        Consumption. data on-board computer.
                        180 km / h driving time 20 min (caught up with the companions who had left ahead) - 10.1 l
                        100 km.h throughout the trip, consumption - 4.75 l
                        This engine has neither adjustable phases, nor a turbine, nor a cooler, nor even electronic injection.
                      11. 0
                        22 October 2015 01: 49
                        And what is written there almost immediately?
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                        as it gets colder - the battery freezes, the power drops, the consumption increases. In winter, up to 10 liters per 100 km reached Moscow. But this is Moscow, here and on a minicar you can drain 20 liters until you make your way from end to end. "

                        ...
                        Drove the same car with the removed systems responsible for hybridity on the same track (traffic jams) and in the same conditions?
                      12. 0
                        22 October 2015 19: 57
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Drove the same car with the removed systems responsible for hybridity on the same track (traffic jams) and in the same conditions?

                        Isn’t it easier to admit that you are wrong in this matter?
                        Even in commercials, hybrids save between 1 and 3 liters per 100 km. True, they measure it on a fully charged and charged car .. But this advertisement in a compartment with a zeroed tax on cars .. well, it does not contribute to sales growth ..
                        Obviously, the hybrid has few advantages in comparison with an ordinary car (and efficiency is not included in the list of advantages). And the little that is does not give them a competitive advantage.
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                        23 November 2015 11: 56
                        It’s easier not for me.

                        And what should be measured? On empty to save 50kg of gasoline? And what is the state of charge of the battery after a run, like a normal car? To prevent sales from going in the European Union, they simply dropped gasoline prices by 3 times even before the global drop in oil prices. And in America they just shot the movie "Vacation".
                        Obviously, there are just savings under the laws of physics.
            3. +1
              19 October 2015 22: 52
              Quote: Scraptor
              the tank is still quietly sneaking out of place


              Vidio with our "Crimean" .. here you and about the silence and about sneaking up .. you can see everything remarkably., And especially its size .. Although the mobility is impressive.
              1. 0
                19 October 2015 22: 55
                With the T-80 (gas turbine) compared with the T-72, and then you can see ...
                1. 0
                  19 October 2015 23: 01
                  Quote: Scraptor
                  With the T-80 (gas turbine) compared with the T-72, and then you can see ...

                  And which of them is a hybrid?
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                    19 October 2015 23: 22
                    The first in the frontal projection almost does not make noise, the hybrid makes even less noise.
        2. 0
          19 October 2015 22: 36
          why? there was a German wedge heel "Goliath" with cables ... a lot more.
    2. 0
      19 October 2015 18: 09
      Army gradually
      converted to electricity. ,,
      and on a fig reconnaissance machine SUCH a cyborg generator to energize or charge batteries on phones?
  15. +1
    19 October 2015 15: 38
    If, for comparison, take a number of Russian developments !!!!!, and where is stupid America with its laudatory super-duper weapon, and where is Russia "torn to shreds" !!!!! ....
    1. +2
      19 October 2015 15: 53
      Perhaps we can cautiously say that our defense industry goes to the most serious technological level (TTT). Let's hope that in Russia there are people who are able to convert these technologies for a breakthrough in our civilian industry.
  16. +1
    19 October 2015 15: 44
    Amused - a 100 kW self-propelled lightly armored generator with a total weight of up to 6 tons. Guys, claim the Nobel Prize for inventing a perpetual motion machine!
  17. 0
    19 October 2015 15: 44
    When using a trailer, the load capacity is doubled.

    It will not otherwise be a machine with a Coke.
    1. 0
      20 October 2015 00: 22
      Not tired of still joking for 300?
  18. +1
    19 October 2015 15: 53
    power supply of a ten-kilowatt laser installation, which needs 30-40 kilowatts of electricity

    So how much kW do you need? Or 10 is in standby, and 40 peak load?
    Photo No. 2: doors without glazing, but they still boarded the window - why? What for it is generally needed.
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  20. 0
    19 October 2015 15: 55
    Mobile toilet with Internet access and a Harakiri machine gun wassat
  21. +1
    19 October 2015 16: 00
    Moreover, the residual power of the compact generator is enough to power a ten-kilowatt laser system, which needs 30-40 kilowatts of electricity for proper operation
    - i.e. 10 kV laser is not obtained at 10 kV ... wassat

    And where are the new items ??? 1/3 of the car in profile, some well-fed guy and a relative of a hohlopepelatsa on the loud name "new items of the pind * coy" defense industry "" don't really pull something ... what

    Give a horror of new items from the chiefs of today's world! good
  22. 0
    19 October 2015 16: 18
    Well, we are expecting supplies of a "moderate" position of mobile 100-kilowatt power plants. Since the landlines have all been kicked out. Reacted quickly however.
  23. 0
    19 October 2015 16: 39
    And where is the four-hoofed scarecrow on batteries ???
  24. +2
    19 October 2015 17: 21
    marlin1203 RU Today, 15:39 ↑ New
    And why should the reconnaissance vehicle provide power to the hospital?

    What do you mean why? They sent the car for reconnaissance, she finds a hospital and takes and feeds it without any nonsense laughing
  25. +2
    19 October 2015 17: 51
    In addition, the robot can carry up to 225 kg of cargo, including ammunition. For these purposes, a cargo compartment is equipped at the rear of the hull. When using a trailer, load capacity doubles
    Cool potato digger, my "loaf" without a trailer pulls twice as much. And if necessary, then ammunition as well.
    Photo 1,2, XNUMX - in our city such long lengths are rented for weddings, in short, another variation on the theme of HAMVY! And I must ride through the forest accompanied by a "potato digger" - we have trees here, what can you do? recourse
    And more interestingly - Northrop Grumman was engaged in SR-71, B-2, according to NASA's orders, and so to roll ... It’s not at all okay in someone’s kingdom !!!
  26. 0
    19 October 2015 18: 22
    In the United States, anyone can do military technology in principle. Therefore, these operetki samples are not what will be once adopted. There every year they just do not create any monsters. Everyone wants to get hooked on the Pentagon’s needle ... It’s clear that basically thieves get orders, but someone’s ideas are bought from such characters.
    1. +1
      19 October 2015 19: 04
      Quote: AwaZ
      It is clear that basically thieves get orders, but someone’s ideas are sometimes bought from such characters.

      Is it Northrop Grumman or shrubs? laughing
  27. +2
    19 October 2015 19: 23
    The suspension is interesting, bumps in the road, almost never transmitted to the body!
    You can bring down the country, or plowing all the money!
    And in an hour the spine will not be in shorts!
    And for electric transmissions, the future!
  28. +1
    19 October 2015 19: 41
    The concept of an armored car is correct. A reconnaissance vehicle should be like this, compact, lightweight, capable of being flown over the air using a main military transport helicopter .. But then, it seems to me, they fell into the trap of their ambitiousness. If an armored car - it means a heavy machine gun ... Why is it a light machine? And the crew of 6 people, it seems to me a bit too much. 4 - that’s it. Otherwise, this machine will turn out at a price as a cast-iron bridge, but in terms of efficiency, I'm afraid with the usual L-200 with ZGU1 in the back end.
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  29. 0
    19 October 2015 23: 53
    Well ... To the designer "5", cars in black paint look threatening, yes ... :)
    And we will look at everything else :)
  30. 0
    20 October 2015 07: 40
    and we have some analogues, Uranus, for example, is a good hard worker-sapper, but for the reconnaissance machine the Yankees seem to have too much ...
  31. 0
    20 October 2015 12: 53
    Here's a reconnaissance machine with generating autonomous power supply this thing. It would not hurt us for both electronic warfare and laser installations.

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