Two RTOs will be part of the fleet by the end of the year.

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Two small rocket ships "Green Dol" and "Serpukhov" (21631 project), built in Tatarstan by Zelenodolsk shipbuilders (Gorky plant) in November, will complete the tests and will become part of the Russian Navy, reports TASS the message of the representative of the Ministry of Defense Igor Dygalo.



“Currently, both ships are in the Novorossiysk Naval Base, which provides all the stages of their tests in the sea training grounds. Their tests are carried out by the state commission: a comprehensive check is carried out on the quality of the built ships and on the compliance of their tactical and technical elements with the approved project, ”Dygalo said.

According to the officer, “the crews of the ships were trained at the Joint Training Center of the Navy.”

He recalled that the IRAs of this project “are armed with vertical launchers of a high-precision missile system weapons, allowing to strike cruise missiles at both sea and land targets. "

The features of these ships "are absorbing hull coverings and special design of silhouette planes, which significantly reduces the likelihood of finding them at sea," said the Ministry of Defense representative.
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  1. +10
    19 October 2015 14: 02
    More to such
    1. +52
      19 October 2015 14: 05

      After the Caspian launches, such a fleet cannot be called a mosquito

      1. +14
        19 October 2015 14: 07
        Quote: bulvas
        After the Caspian launches, such a fleet cannot be called a mosquito

        Small spool but precious. Let's hope that the enemy, such ships will sting like Mosquitoes))
        1. +4
          19 October 2015 15: 06
          And it’s better, like a sweet tsetse fly (maybe tsetse, I don’t remember, I only remember that it stings mortally).
          But in fact - there would be more of these babies!
          Something has become alarming in the world.
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        4. +3
          19 October 2015 20: 20
          Small bug, but smelly (in a good way)
      2. +6
        19 October 2015 14: 15
        yes, loaded with "caliber" and fast ... great approach ..
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        2. +4
          19 October 2015 14: 36
          So, if you fantasize ...

          It would be interesting to send a couple of these to the Sea of ​​Azov, to Mariupol, for example.

          It’s not necessary to come close to staying in neutral waters (I don’t know how in the Sea of ​​Azov, is there such a thing?), But so that you notice

          So to speak, a demonstration of the flag, so as not to be forgotten.

          Or announce the exercises of RTOs in the Sea of ​​Azov

          As a direct viewer said that after Syria they no longer need to be bombed, and so everyone in their Mr. will not drown


          They need to think about whether they need NATO friends with their bases or not.

          Such RTOs can also enter the Sea of ​​Azov along the Don, if no one will notice such a transition from the Caspian Sea and among river vessels




          What a successful decision, beauty!
          1. +2
            19 October 2015 17: 46
            One way or another, these ships were in the Sea of ​​Azov, they passed from the Volga through the canal to the Don and further to the Sea of ​​Azov. This is only the beginning, it’s bad that these ships have poor air defense ..
            Quote: bulvas
            So, if you fantasize ...

            It would be interesting to send a couple of these to the Sea of ​​Azov, to Mariupol, for example.

            It’s not necessary to come close to staying in neutral waters (I don’t know how in the Sea of ​​Azov, is there such a thing?), But so that you notice

            So to speak, a demonstration of the flag, so as not to be forgotten.

            Or announce the exercises of RTOs in the Sea of ​​Azov

            As a direct viewer said that after Syria they no longer need to be bombed, and so everyone in their Mr. will not drown


            They need to think about whether they need NATO friends with their bases or not.

            Such RTOs can also enter the Sea of ​​Azov along the Don, if no one will notice such a transition from the Caspian Sea and among river vessels




            What a successful decision, beauty!
            1. +1
              19 October 2015 18: 52
              Quote: dmi.pris
              it’s bad that these ships have weak air defense

              Nowhere to put. Unless you remodel it into corvettes.
            2. 0
              19 October 2015 20: 37
              Quote: dmi.pris
              One way or another, these ships were in the Sea of ​​Azov, they passed from the Volga through the canal to the Don and further to the Sea of ​​Azov. This is only the beginning, it’s bad that these ships have poor air defense ..

              What's wrong with "Duet" and "Igla-M"?
      3. +4
        19 October 2015 15: 00
        Too painful "sting", and even such an elephant as an aircraft carrier ....
      4. +2
        19 October 2015 21: 41
        Quote: bulvas
        After the Caspian launches, such a fleet cannot be called a mosquito

        The ships are wonderful and necessary, but we should already start building Leaders and Shkvaly. Until the destroyers are in fact the main striking force of the fleets. And we have the destroyers that are part of the Soviet-built fleets and like any ships they age. Of course, no one canceled the modernization, but the new modernization potential has more, moreover, the realities of new concepts of war require completely new ships capable of solving new problems.
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    3. +17
      19 October 2015 14: 13
      And on October 9, the Polar Star border patrol ship left Kronstadt and entered the Baltic Sea for sea trials. The lead PSKR project 22100 "Ocean" was laid at JSC "Zelenodolsk plant them. A.M. Gorky "May 30, 2012, and May 21, 2014 was launched. In May this year, the Polar Star via inland waterways was transferred from Zelenodolsk to Kronstadt for testing and subsequent transfer to the customer.
      1. avt
        +3
        19 October 2015 15: 40
        Quote: Samaritan
        And on October 9, the Polar Star border patrol ship left Kronstadt and entered the Baltic Sea for sea trials.

        And "Essen" came to him so that the "Star" did not get bored.
    4. +11
      19 October 2015 15: 53
      And the captain of the 3rd rank can "steer" this normally, i.e. "hydromayor". Cool, just a major, but he can bring a rustle to half a continent and load all American military laundries with work within the radius of the "Caliber" laughing soldier
    5. +4
      19 October 2015 16: 18
      Quote: insafufa
      More to such
      Yeah, and more recently, the majority shouted "why spend money on these toy boats, we need a real fleet."
      1. +4
        19 October 2015 17: 41
        Our people love everything big, the mentality is like that :) If a pistol is 45 caliber, if a car is a black Kruzak, if a ship is the most hefty :) And if you figure it out slowly, then 38 caliber is enough, Kia sportaja is quite enough and such "mosquito ships" may well spoil the mood of our Usov partners :)
    6. +2
      19 October 2015 16: 52
      They wouldn’t be interrupted by MRCs: Sergiev Posad, Kozelsk, Sarov, Arzamas and Murom.
  2. +7
    19 October 2015 14: 07
    Another 16 "Calibers" smile
    1. +3
      19 October 2015 14: 51
      Painfully smart.
    2. +29
      19 October 2015 15: 05
      Caliber, like Armata, do Russia's foreign policy:
  3. +6
    19 October 2015 14: 09
    Such news cannot but please. And their twin brothers have already shown themselves to be serious weapons.
  4. +3
    19 October 2015 14: 11
    More recently, the Americans would not have taken them into account, but now they know their capabilities.
  5. +2
    19 October 2015 14: 11
    count:
    six RTOs of the 21631 project
    six diesel-electric submarines of the 0636.3 project
    six TFRs of the 11356 project
    and all with Caliber.
    And now we’ll count, if they are all in a salvo, will they be able to drown the US Navy AUG?
    1. +5
      19 October 2015 14: 24
      4 RTOs (for the New Year 6)
      1 diesel-electric submarine (to NG 2), but even one will not be on duty earlier than the end of spring
      0 TFR (to NG 1)
      1 NPS
      1. +3
        19 October 2015 14: 31
        Well frigates will be 3: 2 11356 + 1 22350
        1. +1
          19 October 2015 14: 51
          let's hope
    2. 0
      19 October 2015 14: 32
      Quote: kostya-petrov
      count:

      And now we’ll count, if they are all in a salvo, will they be able to drown the US Navy AUG?


      Now try to turn on your brain and think: "Will they reach the waters in which the US aircraft carriers go?"

      I understand patriotism as the driving force of a nation.
      But such as your "urya-ism" - deformation of the brain to the level of a Neanderthal.
      1. +8
        19 October 2015 14: 37
        This is the concern of US aircraft carriers - they don’t go where they don’t ask, they can run into it.
      2. +7
        19 October 2015 14: 42
        Quote: mav1971
        : "Will they reach the waters in which US aircraft carriers operate?"

        Carriers will reach the water area where they go RTOs Otherwise, they do not need to hell
        Quote: mav1971
        Now try turning on the brain and think:

        Yes
      3. +6
        19 October 2015 17: 18
        As I understand it, in case of war, they will begin to demolish bases in Europe from all seas, crossfire is obtained, aircraft carriers themselves will appear, all the splendor of these ships, the ability to walk on inland waters, including from the depths of the country, try to track down.
        So the aircraft carrier turns out to be such a good target in every sense. As for the submarines, they’ll approach secretly at a distance of 500 km, it’s a fact, they will hit them with missiles and leave.
      4. +5
        19 October 2015 17: 49
        These boats are for the defense of their waters and land .... Nobody is going to drown the US Navy in the Atlantic AUG ...
      5. +1
        19 October 2015 20: 25
        Why chase AUG around the world? It is quite enough to keep them at a respectable distance, which these boats may well provide.
    3. +1
      19 October 2015 14: 34
      Well, in principle, to any ship, I think just one direct hit cr. The main thing to get.
    4. +14
      19 October 2015 14: 42
      Great of course, but
      those who flew to Syria are not intended to launch on AUG, on the contrary, their goal is land-based stationary objects, and those that are anti-ship do not fly so far.
      ... and so far far to parity

      tomahawk carriers:
      23 nuclear submarines of the Los Angeles type, 12 KR;
      18 submarines of the Ohio type, up to 154 KR (for 7 missiles in launchers of drum type for each of the 22 mines from SLBM Trident;
      3 submarines of the Sivulf type, up to 50 charges for torpedo tubes, including cruise missiles;
      9 submarines of the Virginia type, up to 12 KR;
      The British submarine type "Suiftshur" displacement 4900 tons, 5 torpedo tubes, 20 torpedoes and missiles;
      The British submarine type Trafalgar displacement 5200 tons, 5 torpedo tubes, 25 torpedoes and missiles;
      British strike submarine of the Astyut type (2007, the first of four of this class), displacement 7200 / 7800 tons, service life ~ 30 years, 6 torpedo tubes, 48 torpedoes and missiles;
      The 61 destroyer of the “Arly Burke” type is operational, the capacity of two VPU Mk41 of the Aegis system is 90 / 96 cells (depending on the ship series) [27] [28]. In the universal version of armament, the ship carries the 8 Tomahawks, in the shock - 56;
      22 missile cruisers of the “Ticonderoga” type, VPU Mk41 capacity of the Aegis system - 122 cells, typical load - 26 KR “Tomahawk”;
      Since 2016, the launch of 2 new destroyers of the DDG-1000 type with 80 launchers each [27].


      ... but if it weren't for the RSMD treaty, then our "partners" would probably have had a stronger hiccup, and so the number of carriers can be easily counted and try to track ...
      one hope that they ("partners") cringe every time they see such things as in the picture - containers with CLUBs just like RTOs cannot be counted
      1. +2
        19 October 2015 15: 45
        From 2016, the descent of 2 new destroyers of the type DDG-1000 with 80 PU each

        Not "from 2016", but "in 2016": they refused to continue the Zamvolt construction program. Apparently, Michelle Obama jinxed their entire shipbuilding [media = http: //bmpd.livejournal.com/1515381.html]
        1. +1
          19 October 2015 15: 49
          Here is a video about Michel:
          1. +5
            19 October 2015 18: 55
            Here is a crooked hand, God forgive me. Like her husband’s wife.
            1. +2
              19 October 2015 20: 29
              She tried hard! And the organizers should have thought about the place where the bottle was broken, so that it would be reliable, and not just beautiful, to break in the first place.
            2. 0
              19 October 2015 20: 29
              She tried hard! And the organizers should have thought about the place where the bottle was broken, so that it would be reliable, and not just beautiful, to break in the first place.
        2. 0
          21 October 2015 07: 57
          )) but I like Zamvolt - the iron is ugly on the one hand, on the other - it has some futurism in it and it feels that everything is crammed with high technology and the fire (missile) power speaks for itself, and at the same time resembles the ancient armadillos (although the armor there, as I understand it, the cat cried) - steampunk shorter))
      2. +2
        19 October 2015 17: 15
        Quote: Gani
        tomahawk carriers:

        Well this is Wikipedia, but in reality they have less of a widow.
        1. 0
          21 October 2015 08: 00
          Well this is Wikipedia, but in reality they have less of a widow.

          albeit, but still count the carriers and the missiles themselves an order of magnitude more
    5. +1
      19 October 2015 15: 45
      Quote: kostya-petrov
      And now we’ll count, if they are all in a salvo, will they be able to drown the US Navy AUG?

      They can, but then we will not have them either. Exchange 1k1 at best.
      1. +2
        19 October 2015 17: 24
        and why should they bargain, there, at the boom, the whole ball will fly into open swimming
        1. +2
          19 October 2015 18: 05
          Quote: dima mzk
          and why should they bargain, there, at the boom, the whole ball will fly into open swimming

          It all depends on the tactical nuclear weapons — if we agree without it — we will lose the fleet very quickly, unlike the Yankees — in them it numerically exceeds ours by three to four times. Simple arithmetic. + The possibility of replenishment - they have no problems with the timing of construction, you can recall their pace during the Second World War.
  6. +3
    19 October 2015 14: 12
    And what about the laying of new RTOs of the same project? It seems that they said that they will equip all the fleets. It's time for the BF to lay good
  7. +2
    19 October 2015 14: 14
    No wonder there is a proverb that is small and daring! The news pleased.
  8. +5
    19 October 2015 14: 14
    Quote: Sirocco
    Quote: bulvas
    After the Caspian launches, such a fleet cannot be called a mosquito

    Small spool but precious. Let's hope that the enemy, such ships will sting like Mosquitoes))

    Here all the salt is not in size, it’s kind of like a mosquito, well, that is, a mosquito, and it’s a damn thing like a fucked hornet. In fact, a boat with the combat capabilities of a destroyer, if not a missile cruiser ... This is what I understand as an asymmetric response to all kinds of AUGs and ..
  9. +1
    19 October 2015 14: 17
    After the "Caspian fireworks", such ships can be taken much more seriously. Small but strong fist.
  10. +1
    19 October 2015 14: 18
    Not bad, but ... Caliber’s problem is speed - it’s subsonic, that is, it makes sense to use it for stationary purposes, it’s already hard to hit an active maneuvering ship. Now, if there was supersonic, then the aircraft carriers would instantly be blown away.
    1. +8
      19 October 2015 14: 23
      Caliber’s problem is speed - it’s subsonic, that is, it makes sense to use it for stationary purposes, actively maneuvering ship is already hard to hit

      Don't you find it strange that this only confuses you? Although the real flight range of 3M54 is unknown (I think there are definitely 500-600 kilometers there), it is known for certain that the third stage is supersonic there - almost 3 Mach.
      1. -1
        19 October 2015 14: 50
        Yeah, and the 91RTE2 has a speed of 2,5 M, but with a launch range of only 40 km - and this is already not sporty, even somewhat suicidal.
        1. +2
          19 October 2015 15: 05
          Yeah, and the 91RTE2 has a speed of 2,5 M, but with a launch range of only 40 km - and this is already not sporty, even somewhat suicidal.

          Please, explain what is so unsportsmanlike (by the way, it is spelled) and suicidal. hi
          1. +1
            19 October 2015 15: 50
            Quote: Wiruz
            Please, explain what is so unsportsmanlike (by the way, it is spelled) and suicidal.

            Submariners must be loved;)))) and kill themselves immediately when noise is detected!
        2. 0
          19 October 2015 19: 37
          with a caliber with a supersonic part, the range is not 40 and they wrote 220 everywhere - google

          At the same time, the flight, as usual, is done in subsonic mode - and at 20 km a supersonic warhead detaches and attacks the ship

          220 is quite a competitive range - for most of the anti-ship missiles, the range is less
    2. +1
      19 October 2015 15: 06
      At the last stage of the flight, the Caliber accelerates from 0,8 to 3 Machs! Also, I am sure that it can be used for marine purposes.
      1. +3
        19 October 2015 15: 16
        At the last stage of the flight, the Caliber accelerates from 0,8 to 3 Machs! Also, I am sure that it can be used for marine purposes.

        Congratulations on your internet connection hi
    3. avt
      +2
      19 October 2015 15: 44
      Quote: Maksus
      Not bad, but ... Caliber’s problem is speed - it’s subsonic, that is, it makes sense to use it for stationary purposes, it’s already hard to hit an actively maneuvering ship

      laughing And the ships are actively maneuvering in the third space ship with a separation from the earth's orbit? Did you write this for an hour after watching the Japanese cartoon about the space battleship Yamato?
      Quote: Maksus
      . Now, if supersonic,

      But it doesn't suggest anything - why is such a difference in distance declared? On the coast beyond 1500 km, and on sea targets -300?
      1. +1
        19 October 2015 15: 49
        But it doesn't suggest anything - why is such a difference in distance declared? On the coast beyond 1500 km, and on sea targets -300?

        Incidentally, I was also visited by the thought that there are two Calibers for the "sebe" - completely supersonic and the one that is only in the last section what
        1. +1
          19 October 2015 16: 19
          Quote: Wiruz
          But it doesn't suggest anything - why is such a difference in distance declared? On the coast beyond 1500 km, and on sea targets -300?

          Incidentally, I was also visited by the thought that there are two Calibers for the "sebe" - completely supersonic and the one that is only in the last section what


          Does the difference in aerodynamics for subsonic (for Caliber) and supersonic (for Onyx) mean nothing?
          there cannot be one missile with different basic characteristics for itself and for a stranger.
          There can only be ... two ... completely ... different ... missiles ...
  11. +1
    19 October 2015 14: 23
    Get the geyropeyskie dunce. The Americans of you have made a good target.
  12. +1
    19 October 2015 14: 42
    we would have to revive the production of BOD pr. 1155.1 in an upgrade from pr. 22350/11356 ...
    destroyers needed!
    1. +2
      19 October 2015 15: 14
      we would have to revive the production of BOD pr. 1155.1 in an upgrade from pr. 22350/11356 ...
      destroyers needed!

      Honestly, I can’t imagine what BOD 1155,1 should look like in an upgrade (and what a wonderful word) from 22350 ... But I can’t but agree that the destroyers are needed, and urgently.

      My vision of the solution to this problem: into the furnace all the fantasies about the 15-kiloton nuclear giant ala-Kirov; creation of a 9-10-kiloton non-nuclear destroyer based on 22350 with 32/48 UKSK cells and 32/48 S-400 / S-500 cells (there is no need to talk about A-130 type buns, Armor and Packets, because they "default").

      And most importantly, such destroyers need to be built massively and INSTEAD OF frigates 22350, and NOT TOGETHER with them. Let there be only 2 types of multipurpose ships: corvettes 20380/20385/20386 for the near sea zone and these same destroyers for the distant sea and ocean bully goodhi
  13. 0
    19 October 2015 15: 10
    Something in our country has become "United" ...
    1. +1
      19 October 2015 15: 19
      Something in our country has become "United" ...

      Well, even grandfather Lenin gave the command to unite laughing
  14. +3
    19 October 2015 15: 41
    Kremlin: Russia will be a subcontractor for the supply of helicopters to the Egyptian Mistral
    19 October 2015, 14: 27
    Russia will be a subcontractor for the supply of equipment and helicopters to the Egyptian Mistrals worth over $ 1 billion, the head of the Kremlin administration, Sergei Ivanov, said.
    “Russia will be, if you will, a subcontractor that will supply the missing equipment to these Mistrals, without which Mistral, excuse me, is a tin can. And, of course, all helicopters, which in total will amount to over a billion dollars for sure, ”Ivanov said, RIA Novosti reports.
    On October 10, Paris and Cairo signed a contract for the purchase by Egypt of two Mistral-type helicopter carriers previously intended for Russia.
    Oh how the Mistals came in handy. laughing
    1. avt
      +4
      19 October 2015 16: 31
      Quote: bmv04636
      Russia will be a subcontractor for the supply of equipment and helicopters to the Egyptian Mistrals worth over $ 1 billion, the head of the Kremlin administration, Sergei Ivanov, said.

      It’s not without reason, especially considering WHEN the Franks are going to hand over the ships to the Egyptians. Something tells me that the Egyptians will have to recruit crews with us, and they can come with the St. Andrew flag.
  15. +6
    19 October 2015 15: 55
    I remember the people the appearance of the next RTOs was already beginning to be greeted with hostility - how much can such a trifle be produced, you give destroyers ... And now listen to the general tone of the statements? What respect these kids won! Hats off to developers, designers and shipbuilders! hi
    1. avt
      +2
      19 October 2015 16: 28
      Quote: Manul
      I remember the people the appearance of the next RTOs was already beginning to meet with hostility - how much can such a trifle be produced,

      laughing Yeah - where's his air defense at least 300th? And how will he fight off submarines? laughing
      1. +4
        19 October 2015 16: 41
        Air defense, submarines .. Watchdogs graze nearby. Let's blame the torpedo boats for weak air defense wink And let the enemy still try to catch a dozen RTOs. It’s easier to fuck one destroyer.
        As I understand it, I’ve slowed down a little, and it was pure sacasm feel
        1. avt
          +2
          19 October 2015 17: 03
          Quote: Manul
          As I understand it, I’ve slowed down a little, and it was pure sacasm

          These were my recollections of the claims of astral naval commanders to this project demanding to buy a gadget for "battle" laughing
  16. AUL
    +1
    19 October 2015 17: 24
    Quote: kostya-petrov
    count:
    six RTOs of the 21631 project
    six diesel-electric submarines of the 0636.3 project
    six TFRs of the 11356 project
    and all with Caliber.
    And now we’ll count, if they are all in a salvo, will they be able to drown the US Navy AUG?

    They can’t.
    The caliber, designed for firing at surface targets, has a range of "only" 300 km. And who will let him near the AUG at such a distance, they have a defense zone of about 500 km.
    The range of 2600 km - this is when working on ground, stationary targets.
    1. +1
      19 October 2015 18: 06
      About AUGi-Varshavyanka there ....
  17. +1
    19 October 2015 17: 34
    The features of these ships “are absorbing hull coatings and a special design of silhouette planes, which significantly reduces the probability of finding them at sea, ”said a spokesman for the Ministry of Defense.

    Well, why be like the "chosen ones" ...
    The essence of these ships is not in "invisibility", but in the range of weapons ... hi
  18. 0
    19 October 2015 20: 27
    If our "mosquito fleet" has shown such abilities, then I hope the frigates will have more of them at times, and the "black holes" will still have their say. Oh, I do not advise "partners" to even mow towards Russia.
  19. 0
    20 October 2015 09: 51
    Quote: dmi.pris
    it’s bad that these ships have weak air defense ..

    These are river-sea ships. They basically do not need coastal action and air defense, since they would have to act in the coverage area of ​​land defense systems or in areas where the enemy does not have an advantage in aviation.

    Quote: Bochik
    What's wrong with "Duet" and "Igla-M"?

    Range and speed limit (for Needle)

    Quote: katalonec2014
    More recently, the Americans would not have taken them into account, but now they know their capabilities.

    Well, even now they don’t take them into account especially, do not console yourself with this thought.
    The surprise of a strike on ISIS from the Caspian - yes, it was, especially for the media. Nobody just expected Iran and Iraq to give permission to use their airspace. And our "sworn friends" know the performance characteristics, both for export (with a 100% guarantee) and for the Russian Armed Forces (here the data is not 100%, but calculated). To expect that such ships will be able to go out into the ocean or the same Mediterranean is rather stupid. If they go to the Mediterranean, then from despair, if there are no others, more serious)

    Quote: kostya-petrov
    count:
    six RTOs of the 21631 project
    six diesel-electric submarines of the 0636.3 project
    six TFRs of the 11356 project
    and all with Caliber.
    And now we’ll count, if they are all in a salvo, will they be able to drown the US Navy AUG?

    If you put the ACG at a distance of 100-150 km from the Russian coast, transfer everything to the Black Sea, forbid the Americans to use weapons, equip all this exclusively with anti-ship missiles - yes, they will drown. In reality, especially not in the Black Sea (AUG, or rather an aircraft carrier, will not go there due to the prohibition of the entry of warships with a nuclear power plant into the Black (as well as into the Baltic) sea - this is impossible in principle, drowning of AUG

    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Well this is Wikipedia, but really they have less widow

    In reality, indeed, less. English boats can be removed immediately. The number of "Ohio" with CD is not 18, as written, but 4. For destroyers and cruisers - yes, the data is true. The biggest plus of American destroyers is that the number of anti-aircraft and cruise missiles can vary. If there are 8 of them in the multipurpose version, then in the shock one - 56. Take 3 destroyers, equip two of them with CD to the maximum, and make one completely air defense, then the number on each of the two will no longer be 56, but much more ...
    Unfortunately, we have mainly 8 cruise missiles on surface ships, maximum 16, on boats in general 4 (launch through TA). Unlike American boats, where there is a TLU for 12 "axes". Alas, but "Amur-1650" did not work with us. And there should have already been a VPU for 10 CR

    Quote: Maksus
    Yeah, and the 91RTE2 has a speed of 2,5 M, but with a launch range of only 40 km - and this is already not sporty, even somewhat suicidal.

    Well, actually this is somewhat from a different direction - anti-submarine ... Shooting anti-submarine on the NK is creative, but stupid ...
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  21. +1
    20 October 2015 09: 51
    Quote: Wiruz
    Incidentally, I was also visited by the thought that there are two Calibers for the "sebe" - completely supersonic and the one that is only in the last section

    We do not have a "fully supersonic" Caliber. There is only a subsonic anti-ship, or subsonic at supersonic speed. There would be a "supersonic" version of the "Caliber" - nafig it would be to fence the universal launchers designed for "Caliber" and "Onyx". Would have done only under the "Caliber" - besides, it would fit more on each ship

    Quote from Shmal
    At the last stage of the flight, the Caliber accelerates from 0,8 to 3 Machs! Also, I am sure that it can be used for marine purposes.

    And he accelerates. But not the one that was shot at ISIS, but the anti-ship, which has a range of about 370-400 km. Unfortunately, the OCD was merged and the general was named CALIBER. Were it not - there would be no confusion. Anti-ship would go under the name TURQUOISEwinged for shooting along the shore - CALIBER. And then most begin to get confused in these CALIBER


    Quote: remy
    we would have to revive the production of BOD pr. 1155.1 in an upgrade from pr. 22350/11356 ...
    destroyers needed!

    I have no idea how it will look. Our naval commanders said that they would be modernized, the survivors. But how - HZ. It looks like nothing supernatural will be done, the body will not be affected. Perhaps, instead of anti-submarine missiles, they will install "Onyx" / "Caliber" - but this is a temporary measure, because There are not enough destroyers, but with these new complexes, at least the destroyers will remind them of their strike weapons. True PLO in this case will be multiplied by zero
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    21 October 2015 11: 19
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    Perhaps, instead of anti-submarine missiles, they will install "Onyx" / "Caliber" - but this is a temporary measure, because There are not enough destroyers, but with these new complexes, at least the destroyers will remind them of their strike weapons. True PLO in this case will be multiplied by zero

    As far as I remember, anti-submarine missiles are part of the Caliber system what

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